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Toward Prison Abolition with Jena Friedman & Olayemi Olurin (Ep 160)

Not all progressives agree on police or prison abolition, but the conversation is breaking through to the mainstream. Movement lawyer Olayemi Olurin joins Francesca to discuss the overblown crime narrative and how to begin thinking about both defunding and divesting from the prison industrial complex, and also imagining something different. Also in the room is comedian Jena Friedman, whose new true crime show Indefensible breaks through sensationalized murder stories and with a bit of necessary comedic relief to boot. And Francesca gives her take on the Qatar World Cup in all of its…

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