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The Brno Debrief and Assen Awaits · Pit Talk

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: You couldn't have made the check Grand Prix up. Let's
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: just recap the three biggest things that came out from that.
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: Marco Bazegi discovered this weekend that MotoGP's real book does
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: in fact have a please don't slap people section.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Spent the weekend reminding everyone that the future of MotoGP
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: isn't artificial intelligence. It's just I and I agree with Peco.
• 0:26
  Speaker 1: I never want to play poker with Mark Marquez because
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: we clearly have some trust issues with.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: Mark going on right now.
• 0:33
  Speaker 1: But welcome back to Bittok, where we're gonna try and
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: make sense for whatever that weekend was at Bruno, and
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: we're going to look ahead to this weekend at Asen
• 0:41
  Speaker 1: because we love a double header.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: We love back to backs. This episode is brought to
• 0:44
  Speaker 2: you by Shunnon's Insurance.
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Rinita Vanmullen, and joining me is Matt Clayton,
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: a man who's job description somehow now includes explaining why
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: MOTORGIP writers should keep their hands to themselves. Matt, you
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: had an interesting a few storylines that you got to
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: write about this week weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 4: There were several words in things that I wrote this
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  Speaker 4: weekend that I don't think I've ever written before in
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  Speaker 4: Murder GP content, and quite frankly, I hope to not
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  Speaker 4: have to write them again, Like you know, looking at
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  Speaker 4: the was it a slap, was it a strike, was
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  Speaker 4: it a push?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Like having to decipher all of these things for crash
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  Speaker 4: writers in gravel Traps was not part of any Murder
• 1:19
  Speaker 4: GP writer's job description, but that's where we found ourselves
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  Speaker 4: on Saturday, and it was just as you said, it
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  Speaker 4: was just one noteworthy thing from a weekend that I
• 1:28
  Speaker 4: guess if you look back in the results in years
• 1:31
  Speaker 4: to come, you'll go, oh, this was kind of a
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  Speaker 4: run of the mill weekend. The front guys were the
• 1:34
  Speaker 4: front guys in both races, but it's much more nuanced
• 1:37
  Speaker 4: than that, and all of a sudden, and it is
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden, It's happened so rapidly. We've got
• 1:43
  Speaker 4: a completely changed championship picture right now, and that's not
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  Speaker 4: something I expected to be saying.
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  Speaker 3: Was still more than half the season to go.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really glad you brought that up, because that was
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  Speaker 1: one of the first things that I instantly thought of
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: with the whole Maco Bezeki Band from Sunday's Grand Prix
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  Speaker 1: was is this the we're going to look back on
• 2:01
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season or whenever that championship
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: decided comes down to it and go because the adrenaline,
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: the heat, everything got in the way in that moment
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  Speaker 1: for Marco call it what you want.
• 2:13
  Speaker 2: Is this the moment that that.
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: Macro did throw away the championship? Because as much as
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: like I joked about it in the intro, mark Is
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: keeps saying his shoulders messed up. But I said to
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: you guys in the group chat, how can you climb
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: a fence with a messed up shoulder?
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: Is he really is he?
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  Speaker 1: Is he really playing on these cards now or is
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: that comeback on its way?
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  Speaker 4: I still I think the scary thing for everyone else
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  Speaker 4: here is that he clearly isn't physically right now. What
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: percentage he's right is up for debate.
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: He will play that down.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably closer to it's closer to one hundred that
• 2:46
  Speaker 4: it is sixty, But it's not ninety, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 4: Like he's still got a lot of room for physical improvement.
• 2:50
  Speaker 4: And you can sort of see this, you know. He
• 2:53
  Speaker 4: admitted that he came back at Migello to be ready
• 2:55
  Speaker 4: for balot On Park because he knew that was a
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: circuit that turned left and he could make a lot
• 3:00
  Speaker 4: of ground that particular weekend. Expecting him to make the
• 3:03
  Speaker 4: ground that he has over these past two Grand Prix,
• 3:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone saw that coming. But he's trying
• 3:08
  Speaker 4: to get to the summer break now, and you can
• 3:10
  Speaker 4: see that there's two more rounds to go, and one
• 3:11
  Speaker 4: of them happens to be the Saxon Ring, and if
• 3:13
  Speaker 4: Mark Marquez is upright and on a motorcycle at the
• 3:15
  Speaker 4: Saxon Ring, we know what happens. So he's trying to
• 3:19
  Speaker 4: get himself to the summer break. But even in his
• 3:21
  Speaker 4: most optimistic moments, so I don't think you could have
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  Speaker 4: expected him to have been He's taken sixty two points
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  Speaker 4: out of Marco Berzeki at two weekends, which is absolutely crazy.
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  Speaker 4: And I think the thing for me the fact that
• 3:32
  Speaker 4: he's only forty points off the series lead. Now, yeah,
• 3:35
  Speaker 4: it was one hundred and two after Magello, and it
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't have surprised me if he did get the deficit
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  Speaker 4: back to forty points at some point, but I thought
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  Speaker 4: that might be with you know, four or five races left,
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  Speaker 4: because the one thing we've seen with Buzeki this year
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  Speaker 4: until recently, yes, the Saturday has a been a bit blur.
• 3:50
  Speaker 4: And we'll talk about Saturday in a minute. He's just
• 3:52
  Speaker 4: been so good on Sundays that it felt like it
• 3:55
  Speaker 4: was going to be really, really difficult for Mark to
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  Speaker 4: take massive chunks of points out of him in a
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  Speaker 4: short space of time. Time, and so you have the
• 4:01
  Speaker 4: term one accident at ballot On Park, which of course
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  Speaker 4: irony of iron is caused by his own teammate, and
• 4:06
  Speaker 4: that takes a whole bunch of people out of the equation.
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  Speaker 4: And then a weekend like Bruno and that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I wrote in the lead up to Bruno that if
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  Speaker 4: you look at Marcuz's history there, it's not a great
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  Speaker 4: surprise that he's very strong, because his record by itself
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  Speaker 4: dwarfed every other writers combined in the top ten of Bruno.
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  Speaker 4: And that's just testament to his longevity and just how
• 4:25
  Speaker 4: good he is there. But I don't think we expected
• 4:28
  Speaker 4: to see a weekend this dominant, And I guess the
• 4:31
  Speaker 4: question we don't know now is that had Bozeki have
• 4:34
  Speaker 4: been in that race on the weekend. On Sunday, where
• 4:37
  Speaker 4: would he have been? Was he in the fight for
• 4:39
  Speaker 4: the podium? I don't think so, because i Agura had
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  Speaker 4: a level that none of the Aprilia guys did the
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: entire weekend, So he might have finished fifth or sixth
• 4:48
  Speaker 4: or something along those lines to mitigate some of the
• 4:50
  Speaker 4: points damage. But man, forty points off the championship lead
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  Speaker 4: with thirteen rounds to go, it's we've just got here
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  Speaker 4: so fast. I think that's the thing that just surprises
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  Speaker 4: me so much.
• 5:02
  Speaker 2: The points lead.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Mark is there, but if you look at the
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  Speaker 1: standings as well, I agree is not that far behind.
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  Speaker 3: Mark either, which is I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly like you know, we keep talking about Mark.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably the writer to be more consistent over
• 5:18
  Speaker 1: the upcoming races.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at the points.
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  Speaker 1: Gaps in between, there's writers that that aren't that far off,
• 5:24
  Speaker 1: and it's going okay, if Marco isn't in the right headspace,
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: if little accents like this are happening now, those cracks
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: are starting to appear. He needs to get on top
• 5:35
  Speaker 1: of that now because this is, like we said, could
• 5:37
  Speaker 1: be that definition point turning. But also juegem Martin's right there.
• 5:41
  Speaker 1: We've got those perhaps, but we've also got those news
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: announcements that's coming out, so everything's starting to change. I
• 5:47
  Speaker 1: think that's going to start playing on everyone's mental side
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: as well in this championship.
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah, completely agree. There's two battles to be fought here.
• 5:55
  Speaker 4: There's one on the bike and there's one between the years.
• 5:57
  Speaker 4: And it's one of those things that with some like
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: Mark like he's been there and he's done that. He
• 6:03
  Speaker 4: knows what's required and as experienced as Bozek years now,
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  Speaker 4: and he's not exactly jumping at shadows. But it's different
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  Speaker 4: when you haven't walked the walk.
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  Speaker 3: It's different.
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  Speaker 4: Right, Buzeki's experiencing this position of being a championship leader
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  Speaker 4: and the guy that everyone's chasing for the first time,
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  Speaker 4: and whether that played any sort of a role in
• 6:21
  Speaker 4: how he reacted on Saturday with the incident with the sprint,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but this is I was going to
• 6:26
  Speaker 4: turn this around for a second ask you a question
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  Speaker 4: because you were there and you were in.
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  Speaker 3: That press center.
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  Speaker 4: The vision of Bozeki slapping the marshal came out quite
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  Speaker 4: a long time after the sprint, and what was interesting
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  Speaker 4: was that I got the sense that everyone was like,
• 6:39
  Speaker 4: oh wow, look at this. But from your point of view,
• 6:42
  Speaker 4: you're in that press room, you're with everybody else. There
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  Speaker 4: was the general sentiment that the band that he got
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  Speaker 4: was appropriate or was it too harsh or what was
• 6:50
  Speaker 4: the feeling in there? Because I have my own thoughts
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: on this, but also I'm not on the ground, so
• 6:54
  Speaker 4: I'm just curious to see what it was like being
• 6:56
  Speaker 4: in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely a mixed bag.
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  Speaker 1: You know, straight away people are going really his banned
• 7:03
  Speaker 1: because there was you could see like because where the
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: media center is located, race directions really close by, so
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  Speaker 1: you could see everybody from Aprilia coming and going laptops
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: bring boarded like when we're finding out after you know,
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  Speaker 1: their bike was still running.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: Guy revved it.
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: That's really easy for the bike, so then you know,
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  Speaker 1: blow an engine and I think the back wheel might
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: have been spinning, so you know, it could have been
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  Speaker 1: he was scared about the bike still being a gear
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: and obviously if grabs a handful.
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  Speaker 2: Of thing, it could cause more jammage. Like there's all
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: this stuff that was happening.
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  Speaker 1: But straight away that that news announcement came out as
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  Speaker 1: probably about eight pm local.
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  Speaker 2: Timing in Bruno.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and it was like, oh wow, this is happening.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's that's the result. Okay. Then we start
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: seeing the footage and you're kind of going, yeah, it
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: wasn't the right thing, Like, yeah, you don't go and slap,
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: but we've seen slaps before. I eat Elation Morbidelli, right, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's not that uncommon to see his lap,
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  Speaker 1: but to get a race band for it is wow. Okay,
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: and everyone like after started you know, really watching the
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  Speaker 1: video dissecting it, going, okay, the first lap, you made
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  Speaker 1: your point, the second slap, but I think that what
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  Speaker 1: crossed the line, right complete.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, exactly what I was going to say. I think
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  Speaker 4: if it had just been if if if it had
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  Speaker 4: stopped at one. As much as that's not great, I
• 8:27
  Speaker 4: reckon he probably gets away with a fine or some
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  Speaker 4: sort of awarding or something. The fact that there was
• 8:32
  Speaker 4: a gap between the first one and the second one
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  Speaker 4: and he thought enough to do it again, I think
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  Speaker 4: that was what tipped it over the line. Now, the
• 8:39
  Speaker 4: incident in and of itself that you know, there's mitigating circumstances.
• 8:42
  Speaker 4: As you said, the bike is still running all these
• 8:43
  Speaker 4: sorts of things. I more looked at it from the
• 8:46
  Speaker 4: perspective of, so what would happen if they didn't give
• 8:49
  Speaker 4: him a race band or he got sort of, you know,
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: hit with a bit of a feather on this, there's
• 8:53
  Speaker 4: a really dangerous precedent that gets set with things like this.
• 8:57
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned the Morbidelli Elisia spago on which was
• 9:01
  Speaker 4: quitar in twenty three. Off the top of my head,
• 9:05
  Speaker 4: there's a slight point of difference there because there are
• 9:07
  Speaker 4: two competitors on a track and you're you're not interacting
• 9:11
  Speaker 4: physically with an official, be at a track marshal or
• 9:14
  Speaker 4: a steward or anybody else. And I think there is
• 9:17
  Speaker 4: a precedent element to this here. I mean, hand on heart.
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  Speaker 4: Bozeki's flustered, he's annoyed with himself, He's thinking about a
• 9:23
  Speaker 4: million things, and he sees the fact that his bike
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: could be about to be damaged. And no one's going
• 9:27
  Speaker 4: to have great clarity of thought. Any rider is not
• 9:29
  Speaker 4: going to have great clarity of thought. You've just fallen
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: off a motorcycle at one hundred and seventy k's an hour.
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  Speaker 4: You're not going to be thinking super straight but I
• 9:35
  Speaker 4: more thought that there has to be a precedent set here,
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  Speaker 4: which is probably a little bit unjust for Bozeki in
• 9:41
  Speaker 4: this particular case. But now there's no gray area with this.
• 9:44
  Speaker 4: If anyone else in Moto three Motor GP in the future,
• 9:47
  Speaker 4: if this happens and you might be annoyed with a
• 9:50
  Speaker 4: track side marshal or anybody a rival or anything else,
• 9:53
  Speaker 4: you are going to think twice about how you respond
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: to this. It's just going to be in your subconscious
• 9:58
  Speaker 4: because now we know what the penalty is for this.
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: There's no gray area here, and so I think for
• 10:03
  Speaker 4: what it might mean for the future and perhaps de
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: escalating some of these situations if they come up in
• 10:07
  Speaker 4: the future. Yes, super tough of Bozeki on Sunday, and
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: then the fact that Marquez goes and wins the Grand
• 10:12
  Speaker 4: Prix just twists a knife even further. But there's more
• 10:15
  Speaker 4: a long play with this, right because if he was
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: deemed to have gotten away, you know, you said any
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: air quotes with a lesser sanction for something like this.
• 10:23
  Speaker 4: Then you add this layer of you know, something happens
• 10:26
  Speaker 4: in the future and someone will say, well, was it
• 10:27
  Speaker 4: worse than the Berzeki thing. I think it was only
• 10:29
  Speaker 4: seventy five percent as bad as the Bozeki thing. You
• 10:32
  Speaker 4: open the potential for nuance and context here. Yeah, it's
• 10:36
  Speaker 4: a harsh penalty, but I think there's absolutely no ambiguity
• 10:39
  Speaker 4: now and that if something like this happens in the future,
• 10:41
  Speaker 4: we know what the outcome's going to be and consistent
• 10:44
  Speaker 4: outcomes of good outcomes in my book, So yeah, it might.
• 10:47
  Speaker 3: Be harsh, but it's harsh for everybody.
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: The other talking point that came from this was are
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: the marshals being trained enough to know what to do
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: in these situations? You know, Yeah, the marshal, if he's
• 10:59
  Speaker 1: under standing a bike, he knew that he was grabbing
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: a throttle, like you can hear the bikes running like
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: they only have like small earplugs in, not a helmet
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: and everything like that. So okay, obviously in that moment,
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: their first point of calls make sure everyone's say if
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: the rider's say, remove it just in case.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. We know all that.
• 11:16
  Speaker 1: But the marshals trained enough to know also what to
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: do and how to maneuver amotor GP bike, Amoto two
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: bike and A'moto three bike in these situations.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: That was the other question that came out.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was quite interesting because most of these
• 11:28
  Speaker 1: are all they are, they're all volunteers.
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: So the case of.
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: M seig, you know, putting a bit of time and
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: training in before these marshals come in to help these
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: riders because everybody's life's on the line then well.
• 11:41
  Speaker 4: And also in a situation like this, like you can
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: you can situation plan for as many things as you like.
• 11:46
  Speaker 4: You can't cover every possible situation here, and we've seen
• 11:49
  Speaker 4: some pretty wild stuff in the past few rounds. I'm
• 11:52
  Speaker 4: thinking back to the Jones Zarco crashing turn one in
• 11:56
  Speaker 4: Casalunia when his legs stuck between the back of the bike,
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: between the seat and the tire of Manyays Ducatti. Obviously,
• 12:02
  Speaker 4: the Alex Marquez accident and what happened in the aftermath
• 12:05
  Speaker 4: of that with bits of bike flying all over the place.
• 12:07
  Speaker 4: We've seen some fairly crazy things over the past few rounds.
• 12:09
  Speaker 4: So you can't you can't plan for every eventuality, right,
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: There's got to be some degree of will do the
• 12:15
  Speaker 4: best we can with the situation that we have. But
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: the point you made there is that can the marshals
• 12:20
  Speaker 4: be better prepared? Yeah, of course, but I also think
• 12:22
  Speaker 4: it's one of those things that to apportion all of
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: the blame here on Bozeki I don't think is correct.
• 12:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think he behaved in the correct manner at
• 12:29
  Speaker 4: the time, but it's not one hundred percent his fault
• 12:31
  Speaker 4: and zero percent everyone else's fault.
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: There is a degree of percentage in all of this.
• 12:36
  Speaker 4: And just getting back to that precedent thing, I think
• 12:39
  Speaker 4: that you know, the fact that the leader of the
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: world's highest profile Too Will Road Racing Championship was banned
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: for a race because of an action that filters down
• 12:48
  Speaker 4: through every single level of motorsport, Like if it happened,
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: if it can be attributed to someone like Buzeki, then
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: there's you know, that's got to be a light bulb
• 12:56
  Speaker 4: that goes off for every rider everywhere in the world,
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: not just in the World Championship. So I can understand
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: why they did it. He was incredibly unfortunate. And you
• 13:05
  Speaker 4: also know, I think you saw him on Sunday. I mean, yeah,
• 13:08
  Speaker 4: it's a little bit stage managed because the cameras are
• 13:10
  Speaker 4: there and all that sort of stuff, but he was
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: genuinely repentant for what he had done. And I don't
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: just think he was sorry because he missed the chance
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: to race and to score points on the weekend. I
• 13:19
  Speaker 4: think he genuinely felt remorse because you've been around Marco,
• 13:22
  Speaker 4: you know what he's like. That's not his personality generally,
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: Like he can get a bit fiery when the helmet's down,
• 13:27
  Speaker 4: like they all can, but he's generally a much more
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: chilled out sort of a guy. And I reckon that
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: he would have seen the vision of that and immediately thought,
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: oh my god, what have I done? And there was
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: some degree of regret for that. And I think if
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: a similar situation arises, I think he will act very,
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: very differently.
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Mark Marquez was asked in the post race press conference,
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: which all the media can attend and viewers at home
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: can watch on the man a GP video pass, and
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: someone asks Mark what, actually, all three but Mark sans
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: have really caught me up?
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: God.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: Someone asked Mark, what was your thoughts on Marco Betzeki
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: in that moment?
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: And Mark paused.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: Because everyone who's listening, Matt teaches me about body language, right,
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: so this is something I'm really paying attention to with
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: these writers now, it's the thing. But he paused, He
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: thought about it. And then what he said next was phenomenal.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: He goes, you know, we're young adults, we're in our twenties,
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: we're in our thirties, we're experiencing life for the first time,
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: just like everybody else. He goes, the hardest part for
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: us is we have millions of eyes watching what we're doing,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: so in that moment, you're not necessarily thinking about that.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: But then something will happen and then it goes out.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Everybody sees it, everybody has an opinion on it, but
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: we're also experiencing this for the first time too, So
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: I thought that was really really interesting going. You know,
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it's happened at a local track day. I'm
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: sure it's happened a domestic series. It's just not portrayed
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: on every news article, and everybody doesn't get it to
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: say their opinion and talk about how bad Marco is
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: or the Marshall, whatever the verdict is. But in that moment,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: I think he got caught up. Then I hear that
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: from Mark. Then I watched back Marco's reaction on Sunday morning,
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: and you hit the nail on the head.
• 15:13
  Speaker 2: He was so embarrassed by it because it's.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: So out of character for the more mature Marco that
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: we're seeing at the moment in this season.
• 15:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you mentioned before about these people in terms
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: of life. They are young people and these are unfamiliar
• 15:29
  Speaker 4: situations like if a rider starts to lose the front,
• 15:31
  Speaker 4: they know how to save it. If a rider goes
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: too deep into a corner, they know how to save it.
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: All of these racing things they've done since they were kids.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: There's a you know, danger and peril and you have
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: to react. But they're experienced in reacting to those situations
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: because it's what they do. No one trains for how
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: am I going to react if a Marshall is revving
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: my bike in a gravel trap after I have crashed it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: No one has ever thought of that before, and so
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: it's a first time experience and you just don't know.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: You could be an experienced rider and inexperience to someone
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: in the middle of their career like bazekis. You don't
• 16:02
  Speaker 4: know how you're going to react to something like that
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: until you're in the middle of it. And so yeah,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: there's a massive degree of regret there. I think the
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: one thing that's good if I can frame it that
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: way about this was that you would hate a World
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: championship to be decided by something like this in the second,
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: last round or the last round. You would absolutely hate
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: that to be the case. You imagine if this was
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: the last round and he lost the World Championship because
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: of it. I mean, you know, a fowl is a
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: fowl is a foul. It doesn't matter where it happens, right.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: It could be the first race, the middle race, or
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: the last race of the year. But I think we
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: can be thankful that this. It might be something we
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: look back at as the season story progresses, but I
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: don't think it's the defining moment of the season. And
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: the good thing for us is that the defining moments
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: of the season happened on track and we've still got
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: thirteen rounds of them to go.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Defining moment of the season was something that I thought
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: we were going to experience this weekend with Iagura being
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: so close to that first victory, like in the press room,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: in just the vibes, being in the paddock and everything.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: Everyone is rooting for them.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I anger even when Digita was asked, you know you're
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: the biggest I grew friend, and He's like, yeah, you know,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: beat me.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: To pole position because Digita was a second on the grid.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: But he's going, man, he is strong at this track,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: and that was so clear from the get go. You
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: could really see eye he likes this track, He felt
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: comfortable on this track. Everything just sort of seemed to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: tick the box. But now his thing is obviously converting
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: it to that first win. But how does he convert
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: that feeling to Asen to saxon Ry to all these
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: tracks that we're going to in the future, because you know,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: you're not always going to have a track that you
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: just absolutely love and everything seems to line up for you.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's just improving at such a rapid race.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: And you know, we saw at the start of the year,
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: like when he had a good result, or he'd have
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: one of these races where he'd come through from you know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: tenth and he'd been dibbling get the back end of
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: the podium at the end. You'd be like, oh, well,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: that's nice. That's a bit of an anomaly and a
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: bit of a nice store and it's not something we're expecting.
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Our expectations for what he can do now are just
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: growing by the week because he's improving so fast, and
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: it was interesting. I thought Bruno to me showed me
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: two things in that it showed that he's a quick learner,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: because qualifying has been a bit of an achilles heel
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: for him. And he got the you know he's fast
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: on Friday and got the lap riding Q two started
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: from pole. It was you know, I think he's best
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: qualifying before this week it was sixth. So he's definitely
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: made a massive jump in that regard. In you not
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: even halfway through his second season, remember, so qualifying is
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: a box that he needs to tick. But it was
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: interesting that after the race he kind of acknowledged that
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: maybe he was a little bit too conservative and that
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: he should have been a little bit more attacking with Vanyaya.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: Earlier in the race he was thinking, I need to
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: save tire, I need to save tire, where he actually
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: had more than enough at the end of the race
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: where he possibly could have gone a bit harder, a
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: bit earlier. And that's not a function of him not
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: being a good rider. It's just a function of him
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: never having fought for something like this before in Moto GP,
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: and it struck you know, you're in the cool down
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: room after the race, You've got two riders that let
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: me do some quick mats here have won one hundred
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: and six motor GP races and nine world championships between them,
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: and i agur as the guy splitting them on the podium.
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I mean that in itself is absolutely phenomenal.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it's brilliant.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I mean like he's breaking records, he's really showing everyone
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: why he should be a motor GP, why he deserves
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: to be there. Also, I think a brilliant are probably
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: starting to kick themselves with the fact that he is
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: going to Yamaha next year, which I'm sure that announcement
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: will come out soon. But like you said, he's our
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: way of defining who he is, who we talking about before.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Here's the diesel train.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: He needed that first year to get everything up and running,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: and even the start of this year just to understand
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the bike and work in.
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: That movement again.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And now we're starting to see that as he progresses
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: through it and as phenomenal, you know. But it's also
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: so funny from like a social point and just like
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: a media point. Yeah, it's like the opposite of every
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: other proto GP writer that's in that. I did a
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: post for Ko Sports where the in the core down room,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Like you mentioned a it was great that they actually
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: spoke English for us English speacause that we can feel
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: what they were saying.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: But when Mark looks over to him and goes, did
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: you suffer?
• 20:19
  Speaker 5: And I was like, nah, it's just so iagura and
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: it's fantastic, Like it's it's exciting for the sport, it's
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: exciting for us at home as the fans, but it's
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: also it's so cool to see that it's his second
• 20:34
  Speaker 5: year and he's already on the podium.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: And the cool thing I like about this is that,
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: you know, one of my anyone hasn't said that, we
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: haven't said Pramahar this episode yet, but one of my
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: favorite sayings with this sport is that styles make fights right,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: and so if everyone was the same, it'd all be very,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: very boring. We need our spiky personalities or our feisty personalities.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: We need people that beat themselves up when things don't
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: go right. We need someone like an Aya Guru who
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: is just so emotionally flatline all of the time. But
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: I like the fact that there is a point of
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: difference there. So the thing that I'm enjoying about what
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: he's doing this year is that he's the least surprised
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: with how well he's going because he clearly believes in
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: his own ability and knows the way he thinks he
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: needs to be good at motor GP and it might
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: not be a way that we're familiar with because there's
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: nationalistic traits and just the way he is as a writer.
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: Like you said, the diesel trains the perfect description, but
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: I like the fact that he is a point of differences.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: You can't look at him and go, oh, he's going
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: about this a bit like someone else. He's not a
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: bit like anybody. He's a bit like Igura. And that's
• 21:33
  Speaker 4: the thing we're enjoying about this right now is that
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: he's doing it his way, and there's more than one
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: way emotionally and the way he goes about he's writing
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: to be very very quick, but the complete belief in
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: his own ability and knowing now the fact that he
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: verbalized the fact that, yeah, I was inexperienced at the
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: start of the race, and I didn't really know how
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: hard I could go up the front because he hadn't
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: been there at the start of a race before. And
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: you know that the next time that happens, he's going
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: to take the lessons from Bruno and he's going to
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: be better at it. And he just keeps building and
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: building and building, and the sad you know, the sad trumpet.
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: Part of this particular story, of course, is next year
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: he's going to be riding a yabaha, so he better
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: make the most of these next thirteen rounds.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean we did get to see the eight
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: fifty tests on Monday, but well, I'm been strong there.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I do know there was some people hiding in the bushes.
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: I did wonder if I was going to like check
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: where you were, and you're sort of you know, geolocation
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: on your phone if you're like hiding up a tree
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: somewhere just outside of Bruno trying to get some binoculars
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: on what was going on. I didn't check, but I
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: probably should have.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: For those who don't know, or maybe I have never
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: been to Brewnery.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: It's about two hours from frug and it's quite an
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: industrial sort of city, like there's a like it's quite
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a decent city, right, But the former Czech Mato GP
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: writer Carol Abraham, he has a house like not even
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: three minutes from the track.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: So the track, there's like a lot of forest land
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: and then he has a house there. And it's funny
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: because everybody was coming.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Up and talking to him this weekend and I was thinking, Yeah,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: everybody's trying to find a way to get in that
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: forest to go in like watch the bikes on Monday
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: because the fans, I mean, there's a lot of fans
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: there and it's a really cool like stadium section where
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: it's like naturally built into the Earth's side.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Because it's quite hilly there.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: But there was fans who would just ride there, pushbikes
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: in through the forest and would see on the edge
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: of the fence. So I mean it's great, like it
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: brings people in, but it also I'm sure there's a
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: lot of journalists hiding entrees on Monday trying to see
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: the eight fifties on track.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can imagine someone saying to Carol Abraham, can
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I just like stand on your roof for a couple
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: of hours?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Is that fine?
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Like could he could have sold like spots on his
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: roof for half an hour and a bay to fortune
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: on Monday? Because everyone was key to see what was
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: going on. But officially at least nobody did, so that
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: you go.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Nothing on socials, but back to the important matters. Perko Banyaya.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Now. He was asked in Sunday's press conference Peco compared
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: to twenty twenty four, how do you feel? His response was,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I don't compare myself to twenty twenty four, but it's
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: because it's completely different and it seems like what I
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: was just mentioning before with I agree, and I'd love
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on it. Is this just one
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: of those tracks that just seemed to tick the boxes
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: for Peco in that moment. I mean, and then I
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: know we're going to ask in a track that he
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: has tattooed on his arm.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: We can talk all about that, but it was just
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: just like a moment.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Did all the stars aligne for Peco to be at
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the top or is he made that step that he
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: needed to be there with.
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Mark that little bit more consistently.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it sort of felt like towards the end of
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: last year he was like having some sort of you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: public you know, psychotherapy session going on. Basically, it felt
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: like he was just sort of bearing his soul in
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: front of the public and exposing some of the things
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: that had come out just from being completely lost last year.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: And I've said this with Pecko before, and this is
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: what I actually really enjoy talking to him from a
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: media point of view. He's a bit of an overthinker,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: and I mean that as a compliment, not as a
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: dearc He overthinks things, he overcomplicates things, and so I
• 25:07
  Speaker 4: think he you know, we've discussed this before. He's this
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: generation sau he Lorenzo and that when things are great,
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: like good lord like, he's just absolutely metronomic. And he
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: had that, you know, stint through twenty two and twenty
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: three when he was winning will titles that it's one
• 25:21
  Speaker 4: thing to know what a guy's going to do, but
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: it's another thing to be powerless to stop it. And
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: it kind of felt like when he was in his
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: sweet spot, there was kind enough that you.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Could do about it.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: He was just so so quick and made so few mistakes,
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: and obviously last year got into his head a little bit.
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: He's got Mark on the other side of the garage.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: He hated the way the GP twenty five handled, couldn't
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: enjoy the front end feel for him is everything. If
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: he doesn't have it, he feels he can't be fast
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: within his head and he can't trick himself into just
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: twisting the throttle a bit harder. He's got his confidence back.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: He can see that. This year it's been some sort
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: of exorcism or something as he's leaving to Caddy. Funnily enough,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: but you go to Bruno and it's I mean, you
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: know from being there, Ashvelt, super wide, super grippy. So
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: it takes all of those things that he will, all
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: the little doubts that he gets in his head when
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: he's at certain tracks where he's not quite sure. All
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: of them are just parked off to the side. He
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: could just get in there and ride, and then his
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: sort of performance envelope increases. And so we've seen him
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: building over these past four rounds. He's had four Grand
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: Prix podiums in a row now, just very quietly. I
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: still don't see him as big, any sort of championship contender,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: but it was he could never have stayed as bad
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: as last year for as long as it did. It
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: was just so so bad last year. He was looking
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: like a guy who was not befitting of the two
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: time world championship tag. And he's clearly better than that now,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: is he ever going to be as good as twenty
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: four again? Results wise, maybe not? I think, you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: he pointed to the fact that he feels he's a
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: better rider and that he's evolved, and maybe that's just
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: a function of going through the struggles that he went
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: through last year. He has come out the other side
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: of that and he's learned some things about himself. I'm
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: not sure, and he would probably admit this. He's not
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: the most adaptable guy the world, Like I don't think
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: he deals with things that are not quite at east
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: of sort of sweet spot particularly well. But then it's
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: a matter of trying to mitigate the bad days with
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: those and then when things are good, and we've seen
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: it because he's won thirty one Grand Prix for to Catti,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: when things are good for him, they're really good, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: I'll be so interested to see that. We know that
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: the Aprilia thing is going to be happening for next year.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: We don't know how much carryover there's going to be
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: in terms of the way these bikes handle between the
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: thousands and the eight fifties. But if you give him
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: a bike that can be ridden the way he wants
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: to ride, it, and he can be fast. We know
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: what happens, he wins world titles. But he's also got
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: the biggest variance between very narrow sweet spot that he's
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: devastating in and then when things go wrong, they go
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: really wrong, and we saw that last year. So it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: nice to sort of see him back at the sharp
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: end because, you know, again talking about a point of difference,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: he's just such an accomplished rider when he's at the front,
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: and it was kind of refreshing, like to see sort
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: of old school Pecko in the front for seventy five
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: percent of that race. He ran a tire in the end,
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: and he kind of knew that, but it didn't look
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: like some sort of an outlier. It looks like something
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: that we might see a bit more regularly. And like
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: you said, accent, he's so good there and it wouldn't
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: surprise me at all if he's up there again this weekend.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: One thing you pointed out there that just made me
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: think about the future is Peco going to a Prillier
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: is okay? How long is it going to take him
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to adjust to that new environment because he's been factory
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: gi Catti for ages before.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: That was this is a long time ago, isn't it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: But okay, he's been so like you said, he likes
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: his environment, he knows he needs that around him. How
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: long is it going to take for him to adjust
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: to that new environment? Is that something that is going
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: to be quite quickly because he's mentally already, like you said,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: kind of checked out from where he is and wants
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: to go there. Or is it going to be that
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: slow burned? I think that would be something for everybody
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: like listening and the fans, so really pay attention to.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously we'll see the Valencia test, but.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: My guess if I had to put money on one
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: side of it or the other in that some writers
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: it's the old approach.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Do you need a carrot or do you do to stick? Right?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Pecko's a guy who operates better when he has an
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: arm randy shoulder, and you know we're all on your side, Pecko.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You know we're all in this together. We'll get you
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: to where you need to go. Whereas Factory de Catti
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: is a bit more harsh under Gigi Delina and Davidae
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Tai Dootzi and it's a bit like you're just another
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: cog in the wheel. And if you're not pulling your weight,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: then sorry. And we saw that last year because he
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: was their favorite son when he was winning, and then
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: someone came in and started winning more and did it
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: better and they were off him very quickly. And I
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: think that was part of it as well, like different
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: riders have different makeups and it's neither good nor bad.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Everyone just has a different way of going about it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: The Prillier thing to me, as much as it's a
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: big motor GP team now and I think this is
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: just a testament to Masima Rivla's leadership style. It feels
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: much more like a family to me, and he's the
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: sort of guy I think that responds better that if
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: it goes wrong, and it will, because this is world
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: championship sport, it's what happens. He'll appreciate the arm randy
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: shoulder and say it's okay, we're in this to will
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: get you out of this, as opposed to be better,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: which is kind of the decading way of doing things.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: And so you know, in terms of is he going
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: to take a long time to adjust because of the
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: way those two teams operate very differently, I don't think so.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: I actually think that he'll be quite it will be
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: quite seamless for him getting in there. He'll be with
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: Bizeki that their mates, they've been here together for years.
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: I think it's a really good environment for him that
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: will bring the best out of him. What's really interesting,
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: and I don't know if you've heard this, but I've
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: heard this from a couple of sources now, it sounds
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: like the contract that he's signed with them is four years,
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: which is really interesting in that a lot of the
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: deals these writers will do it for two year cycles, right,
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: And I think he's taken less money and more stability
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: perhaps over the course of the four years, because he
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: feels like he probably wants to put roots down there
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: and this will be like the next and long stop
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: and maybe the last stop of his motor GP career.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: The very fact that if that is the case, if
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: it's a four year deal, it's kind of unprecedented for
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six to have such a long contract. But
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: for some like him and what he's been through the
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: last couple of years, I can understand why he would
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: want that sort of thing. It goes back to that
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: family environment that I was talking about before.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that wow, that's news. To me, I've not heard
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: that through the room.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: Omeal, but interesting if that's the case, considering then Mark
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: wanted to do a one plus one. So you got
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: one site wanting to do something like that and then
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: four year commitment.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: That's huge. Like wow, just briefly.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: One thing I did want to mention about Bruno is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the lap time during the race. Oh my god, it
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: was I grew setting personal best, then lap race records,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Fabio Diggi Antonio though he was a fire on the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: last lap, phenomenal considering like it was hot. I was
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: just telling maunt off air you know air temperature. There
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: was a sign they were saying thirty two degrees. It
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: read track temperature and like the mid fifties. I heard
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: someone even said it was closer to sixty like it
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: was there. And the fact that they're doing that. We
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: know the track has group, we know everything like that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: But what insane late race late race pace tun twister
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: from dig Her in the Czech cron Prix.
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, incredible, And he's one of those guys that's there's
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: a bit of a guru in there and that he
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: he qualifies better than a Gura does. Did he his
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: first couple of laps. Always feels like he gets pushed
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: around a little bit now, whether he's just a little
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: bit and needs to get his elbows out a little
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: bit more. He he's very very good late in races,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Like he's probably the best to caddy rider late in
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: races this year.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Quite frankly, he's just the first couple of laps.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: It always feels like, oh man, you've lost those one
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: or two positions in the sort of you know, the
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: hurly burley of the first couple of laps, and that
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: tends to cost him. But yeah, that late race pace
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: when you consider how hot it was and how warn
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: that tie was to do. I think he broke the
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: lap record by half a second on the last lap,
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: which is absolutely crazy considering how hot it was there.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: But yeah, if he could ever get the first couple
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: of laps right, then I mean he's a threat for
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: a podium most weekends, which is not something we've said
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: before this season with did You, But those podiums could
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: turn into wins.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: He's just got to.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Get those first couple of laps right because he's pretty
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: much there in Q two all the time now. But
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: it always feels like he goes backwards in the first
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: two laps.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about that first lap and in particular that
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: first corner because there's been some news come out over
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: the last couple of days which we knew was going
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: to happen, but we didn't know exactly right now. But
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the start devices have been banned, and you wrote an
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: article for Fox sports dot com dot a Ford slash
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Motorsport got to get the plug in, you know guys
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and talking about the start devices and basically saying why,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: what the outcome is and what m seg what everyone's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: saying is it's because of those crashes that we've seen,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: you know, catalognia.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: We discussed it on the pod.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Everybody said that you can read all of the internet,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: it's notorious for that type of crash or so for
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: turn one crashes. Let me rephrase that for turn one crashes.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: But the fact that we've seen a lot more of
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: it happening, and even Jack was really vocal about it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: You wrote about it on Fox Sports as well. Is
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this going to be the change that we need? Do
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: you think for the rest of the season.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: There's kind of two things here, like there's no you know,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: magic bullet, golden ticket, whatever analogy you want to use here.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: You can't make motor GP starts completely safe because that's
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: not why everyone's involved. And it's actually actually impossible when
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: you've got twenty two riders heading to the first corner,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: all squabbling for pieces of tarmac. You can't make them safe.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: You can make them safer. And I think the interesting
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: comment that Jack Miller made after Hungary was that he said,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: you know, if we take them off everybody, if we
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: take the front device off for everybody, then he said,
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: you know, we're all.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: In the same boat.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: It's just that the boat right now is going thirty
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: k is faster than it needs to go because of
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: the performance game. You're getting into the first corner there,
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: so if you reduce the speeds a little bit. It's
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: one of those things that you know, we know that
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: every bike's got them, and if everyone's arriving in a
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: packing and it makes it less safe, then everyone's just
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: going to arrive in the pack without the bond, So
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: what's the difference. It kind of feels like a bit
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: of a waste of time and money while increasing risk unnecessarily.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: And the other thing you have to remember was they're
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: all going to be banned for next year anyway, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: so I think that was part of the point with
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: some of the riders saying that this is not some
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: sort of you know, catch all that's going to make
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: starts safer. I mean, I think it was Mark Marquez
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: basically said, well, we're having more startlight crashes because we
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: have sprints at every round now, so we're doing forty
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: four starts a year, not twenty two, which is a
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: very valid point. But the fact that they are all
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: being taken off the bikes next year anyway, because there's
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: been a realization that yeah, maybe this isn't really adding
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: to the show, but it's just increasing the risk taking
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: them off half a season early.
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: It is what it is.
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, you saw on the weekend at Bruno they
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: did a couple of practice start sessions after various practice
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: sessions where they did practice starts with the front device
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: and practice starts without, and you know, it was a
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: mixed bag that. You know, the start at Asen this
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: weekend could be possibly more chaotic because I think people
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: will adjust to it differently. I mean, once we get
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: two or three rounds into this without the front devices,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: everyone will get back to the same level, so it's
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: going to be different.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: But I think it's going.
• 36:09
  Speaker 4: To to my mind, if you're going to ban something
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: in six months anyway, and there's a potential safety risk
• 36:14
  Speaker 4: for continuing to have them. We've seen two monumental first
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: corner pile ups in the last four rounds.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Just take them off.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: I don't really think it's adding too much to the spectacle,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: quite frankly, and they're going in the bin at the
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: end of the year anyway, so what's the point of
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: keeping them.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: You're read in the article though about Masmo Rivela saying
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: that everyone's almost overreacting and you don't necessarily blame technology.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Is that just a massimo thing to kind of do
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: the point of difference? And they're almost being like, well,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: he believes in his writers, because I guess these writers
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: have caused some of these term one crushes.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: The fact that he said that after Hungary and his
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: writer was responsible for punting four other writers out of
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: the race, including his own teammate. I think you might
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: have just answered your own question there to a degree.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: I wonder if he I wonder if he would have
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: been so adamant about it if the accident was caused
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: by someone not writing a factory a brilliant but the ego.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted to bring it up because I
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: know you're rid about it, and I thought it's interesting
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: that somebody else is there. But yeah, no, that makes sense.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: How the other rule that's coming in is the Stargrid.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: The Sargrid's changing, so from the German Grand Prix onwards,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: the distance between the roads will increase from nine meters
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: to twelve meters. Okay, I'm I didn't have a take
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: measure with me, but Bruno, it's really a wide track.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's like fifteen meters wide across.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah it is, Yep.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: It didn't even really feel like there was a lot
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: of distance between the bikes on the Stargrid.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm really curious as to how for tracks like.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Balaton, which we know is notoriously skinny Saxon ring, same
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: thing as how are they going to be able to
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: make this distance on between the Stargrid.
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: Well, and the other thing that I thought as well
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: is because you know you mentioned Catalogia before, which's got
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: the longest run to the first corner of any track
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: off the grid. I think it's I wrote it enough
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: times I should know, it's five hundred and ninety five
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: meters over over half a k basically to the first corner,
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: which is crazy. There's other tracks where you're in the
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: first corner so quickly, like you think of somewhere like Messano,
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: you even think of Philip Pilot. There's not a super
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: long run to the first corner at the Island either.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: So that's interesting for me in that we've got some
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: tracks later in the season that you know, some of
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: the older tracks, you might say that they're not super
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: long runs to the first corner there, so you space
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: those grids out even more. They'll be almost up to
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: the last quarter of Philip Pilot. It'll be quite funny.
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll be curious to see how that impacts
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: the way, you know, because we know these bikes are
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: difficult to overtake at the moment, so if you're spacing
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: the grid rows out even further. How that changed tactic,
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: How that changes tactics going into the first corner for
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: some of these tracks. Because not every tracks created equal.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: That's why we love this sport. There's differences in the tracks. Yeah,
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: interesting going forward. Also interesting that the first time we
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: get to see it is at the Saxon Ring, which
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: is the biggest outlier a track on the Motor GP
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: calendar because it just continues to go left the entire time,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: and it's a complete one of one Saxon rings. So
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to get a really clear
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: picture of what this is going to do for a
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: few rounds. Saxon rings always one of those ones where
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: you go, yeah, it's a bit of an anomaly and
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: you take it with a picture salt.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So keep your eyes peeled on that.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: But maybe, yeah, like you said, just let's wait for
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: after saxon'raen, what's after saxonaren?
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Isn't Mazzano?
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Do we go Silverstone?
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: Silverstone? That's it?
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that would make more sense than that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, listeners, keep your eye out for Silverstone on that one.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Are the news that's come out this week, which surprise, surprise,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: if you didn't know about this, were you living under
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: a rock? Mark Marcus has re signed with youw caddie.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: This is where the domino starts to fall, and this
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: is where we finally get to hear because there was
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the press conference on the weekend with the heads of
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: manufacturer the MSMA and Carlos Espeletta talking about the new
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: agreement that's been made, and it's almost like a court agreement.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: You'd say, this the first of it's kind in in
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: this sport. I sat in that first conference because I
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: was really curious to hear how they were talking about things.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: And I don't know about you, Matt, but god, this
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: was so coy about it. Everyone was trying to ask
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: questions and what are you doing? Because the whole talk was,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you know, we want to bring more ice to the sport.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: It's the best sport. We love it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: We want we want to expand we want to grow
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: and everyone's like, yeah, but how are you going to
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: do that and what are you what are you doing?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: And it's like, we just want to grow, we want
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: to expand. I think that we're going to see some
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: changes coming. But the first thing that.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Was as soon as that announcement was made, it's like, okay,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: now we can get these writer contracts underway, and obviously
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: the first one being Mark Markeez.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: It's been so weird in that we came into this
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: season knowing there were so few riders that actually had
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: contracts for twenty twenty seven, and we thought this is
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: going to be the dominant story for the first half
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: of the season. We had this flurry of oh, here's
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: all these deals that are supposedly being done right at
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: the start of the season, I mean before preseason testing
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: with a couple of them in Malaysia, they were starting
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: to come out. But then after Marco Bitzeki got married
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: to his bike at Sepang and that was the fifth
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: rider to have a contract for next year, everyone just
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: went really quiet. And part of it was the negotiating
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: tactic between the manufacturers and MSEG when nearly said Dawner
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: then to get the concord done for the next five
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: years to run the championships. So part of it was
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: we're not going to announce any of this until that's done.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: And you mentioned Marquez as the first domino to fall,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: and that is the perfect way to describe it, because
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: there's one of these things that there is an order
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: to the way these seats are going to be distributed here,
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: because every action has a reaction, right, So if I
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: had to guess the order of these things, I would
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: imagine that maybe Pedro Acosta is the next one to
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: get announced as Mark Marquez's teammate, because then that creates
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: a vacuum for everybody else to start doing their game
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: of musical chairs. Because we know that Banyaya is going
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: to Aprilia to replace Martin, we know Martin's going to
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Yamaha to replace Quaeurro, and we know the Couatururo's going
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: to Honda. So there's like a degree of it's like
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: an order that these things need to happen in. The
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: curious thing for me is, well, there's kind of two
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: parts about this. There's this is going to be a
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: degree of almost like what you'd call buyer's remorse with
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: some of these contracts right now, because at the start
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: of the season, when everyone's making these decisions, we didn't
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: really know what the competitive pecking order was for Murder
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: GP in twenty twenty six. So right now, if your
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: Juge Martin or you're Aagura, you're going to be trading
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: in probably the grid's best bike for the brids worst
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: bike for next year. So how does that change the
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: rest of your season? Is like, well, I better do
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: some winning on this thing, because it might be a
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: while until I'm doing some winning on a Yamaha. And
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: then how that plays into the championship picture as well,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: because I looked at it this morning, I think there's
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: only is it one of them, it's two or maximum
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: three riders that are in the top ten of the
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: standings right now that are actually going to be staying
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: with their same teams. That's crazy. So you think, obviously
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Mark's going to be staying, but you know, even the
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: guys further down, we know Martine's leaving, We know that
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: jan Antonio is leaving somewhere, like Fermin Aldergarez leaving. Ralph
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Fernandez might be staying at track House.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: We don't know.
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: But there's so much movement within that top ten that
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: that's going to be super interesting as far as how
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: does that shape the rest of the championship. Look at
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: it Prillier, right, for example, Marco Berzeki's resigned, They've got
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: him for the next couple of years. Joge Martin's off
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: at the end of the year. What if a Prillier
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: need Joge Martin to help hold off Mark Marquez in
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: the last few rounds of the season and Juay is like, well,
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm out of here at the end
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: of the year anyway, So I don't really care. So
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: that's going to be super super interesting. What's the order
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: in that these dominoes for because there's lots of dominoes
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: lined up, we just don't know when they're falling in
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: what order. How does that change the championship picture for
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: the end of the year, Because if it is tight
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: at the end of the year and you've got a
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: writer who's just literally seeing out his time with his
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: current employer, be super curious to see whether these guys
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: are amenable to doing the right thing for the team
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: about to leave. So, yeah, that's a storyline and watching
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: the end of the year, particularly if it's close, Yeah,
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: I'm really looking forward to see how that one gets
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: handled because I don't know if there's a right or
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: a wrong way to handle it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: We'll be making this up on the go.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I honestly thought since the Mark announcement it would be
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: like daily bang bang bang bang bang.
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: But still by Bee.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Still it still could be.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: But now that you say that, I'm wondering if we'll
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: start to see like a like a little bit of
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a break in between or whatnot. I mean, everyone knows
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: where like seventy percent of the grid is going anyway,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: so it's not going to be a surprise when Ah
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Pecko's going to a Prillier, Pedro's going to factories you caddy.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: But the ones that I'm curious about and I've been
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: trying to ask and I've been trying to catch Jack
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: when and where I can, is what is he going
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: to do next year?
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Where is that?
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Because you wrote the article, we heard the quotes from
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: him and speaking a body language once again, you could
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: see it in his face as well over the weekend.
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: Is you know Jack might be out of the right
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: and it's been and interesting because we've spoke about it before.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: You know, he's had the last few years where it's
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: scrambling for that ride, gets the ride, scrambling for that
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: next ride, gets the ride. He's not had that safety either.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So we've got that on one side. Then the other
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: thing is I've not necessarily been hearing that Center's got
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: a ride for Moto GP either because of the flurry
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and everything that's happening, which I think for us Ozzie's
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: is scary. The fact that we might not have an
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Australian on the Moto GP grid next year, which is
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: crazy crazy.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: I look reading the tea leaves here, there's kind of
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: a random third player in this that is not Australian
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: that is kind of holding things up a little bit
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: in the TICH three and KATM on a wider level,
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: the Maverick Vineal lest question is like a massive one
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: right now because you look at Vinals's name and reputation
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: of what he's started Moto GP. He's absolutely worthy of
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: a ride because he's very, very very talented. Bit mercurial,
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: but you know, he is very very talent at it. Clearly,
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: he's been injured for basically a year. He hurts himself
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: at the German Grand Prix at the end of June
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: if I remember rightly, which is basically now twelve months ago.
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: I think he's had one top ten finish in twelve
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: months because he's just not been right. He's missed basically
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: half the Grand Prix between now and then. He's a guy,
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: if fully fit, he absolutely deserves a seat in that
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: KTM stable. Right now, KATM are probably thinking well, what
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: are we actually doing here, Like would you sign Maverick
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: Vinalez with any confidence for two years right now? He
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: probably wouldn't based on the last twelve months, and so
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: there's all these people that have might have washed out
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: of seats elsewhere, someone like a Brad Binder or.
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: Jack as you mentioned.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: I don't think anyone's hiring Franko Morbidelli, but you know
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, there's people that have fallen out of
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: favor with certain teams. The KTM situation is now the
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: one that's kind of the most sort of undecided and volatile.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: But I go back to something that.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Guntersteiner said at Magello a couple of rounds ago, which
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: was he said it in jest, in typical gunta style,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: but he mentioned it because he's like, well, all these
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: guys that don't have jobs, they've got nowhere else to go,
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: so we could afford to be as patient as be like.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: And it was actually a really interesting negotiating tactic because
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: there's there's too many riders for too few seats right now.
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: Because you've got Motor two rookies that are stepping up,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: there's all these incumbent guys that are scrambling around, going, God,
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: is there a seat for me somewhere? And Tech three
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: could have one or two seats, and so Steiner's making
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: the point, it's like, well, we don't need to rush
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: here because no one else has anywhere else to go
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: at the moment. We could just wait and we can
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: take our time making a decision. So that's really interesting.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: I still think that he made a couple of comments
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: in that same Magello presser that he did where he
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: was talking about twenty twenty seven's a good year to
• 47:40
  Speaker 4: take a punt on an unproven rider, and you know
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: you frame that as being well, you know, we know
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: that there's been discussions with center AGEUS and that particular team.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: I look at all the other.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Manufacturers and they've kind of hitched their mass to like
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: the fast young guy coming through. Because if there was
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: ever a good time to be a rookie, it's next
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: year where the benefit of experience with the bikes is
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: not a factor because it's new for everybody, right, So
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: Dicati's going to have Daddy Holgado, Honda's going to have
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: David Alonso. It looks like Yamaha is going to promote
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: heasan Guavara, probably in place of Jack, and so all
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: the other manufacturers are saying, here's our fast young guy
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: from Moto to We're just going to throw in the
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: deep end because it's a good year to throw them
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: in the deep end. So who's Katm's guy? And to
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: my mind, Katm's guy could be centerageous because he ticks
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: the boxes for what Holgado and Alonzo and Guevara do,
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: fast young guy, race winner and Moto two. Let's throw
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: him in the deepend and see what happens. Because everyone's
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: starting from zero next year.
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: So if I had to.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Frame the market, who am I more confident about being
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: on the grid next year out of Senna and Jack?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: I would say Senna.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: But the door's not completely closed for Jack yet because
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: there is the uncertainty of track house and but the
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: options are few. And I think his frustration at Bruno.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you were at that pressa, but
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: he was super, super frustrated about not being able to
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: test the eight fifty on the Monday because he had
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: put his hand up to do it and they basically said, no, thanks,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: we're fine. And that's one of those things, is like, man,
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to do the right thing here, and he's
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: obviously doing Suzuka for Yamaha next week.
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: He's doing all the.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: Right things, but it's pretty clear that they have moved
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: on and now the scrambling becomes for him. It's like, well,
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: is there another seat for me? Can I get to it?
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Is it even feasible? And if the answer is not
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: to all of those questions, then he still clearly wants
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: to race motorcycles Somewhere. He's got to work out what
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: the next thing is.
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: Let's just touch on the center real quickly. I preached
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: it on socials. He managed to do most of that
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Moto II race without.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: A needy fell off off, which is phenomenal. We saw
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: it afterwards.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: You know if he did cover up with a towel
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: quite quickly, but you can see there. I don't know
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: if someone who's never.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: Done a track day or never experienced it, these writers
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: are utilizing those niche liders a lot to help much
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: on the bike and corners exactly. So for him to
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: do that and finish fourth and be that close to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: that leading group the whole time, that hats off to
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: sen A, well done there.
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: I was outstanding. This is why I'm riding a desk
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: and not a motor GP bike. Well, it's a lack
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: of talent for starters, but it's one of those things.
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: When I saw that knee slider come off my first
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: thought was actually got a bit squeamish. I'm like, oh no, like,
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: you can't just suddenly change the way you ride a
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: bike and be fast. At this point, you've got half
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: a race to do and you're missing a knee slider,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: which of all the things that you could lose during
• 50:28
  Speaker 4: the race, that's not something you would like. And a
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: track like Bruno too because of just how long some
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: of those corners are and how low you are on
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: the bike. So there was part of me that was
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: a little bit squeamish and my knee started getting a bitch.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: You're just thinking about it, But that's just me. But
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: he had a very very solid weekend. Again, you know,
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: couldn't really have done much more, and you know, yes,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: there is a pretty significant gap at the top of
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: that championship with Mano Gonzalez. But I think Senna's doing
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: He's not having the super big spikes between good and
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: bad weekends anymore. He's a bit more level, which I
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: think is something that people in motor GP want to see.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: We talked about that earlier this year. I think he's
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: doing everything he needs to be able to do to
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: give himself the best possible chance to be on the
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: Grid next year, which is frankly as an Australian fan
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: and for people that support Center, that's.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: All we can hope for exactly. And we'll just touched
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: on Joel real quickly.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: I spoke with him and he was really happy with
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: the way that the results went on the weekend and
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: his progress and improvement on that Honda. That's all he
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: keeps talking about with the Grid and Love Team is
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: just the progress and the improvement. And we're seeing that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: also filter across to his teammate Eddie o'sha. So while okay,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: he's not there fighting for race wins and whatnot anymore,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: he's utilizing his skills and his knowledge on the other
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: side to keep developing that bike. And if that's the
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: direction that he wants to go and what he wants
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: to do, it's great because we're seeing the benefits of
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: that coming now.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: You can almost sort of divide he season into two parts,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: so that the first part of it was they are
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: quite a long way off, and so it's clearly got better.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: He's obviously much further than the standings he would want
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: to be. But you know, the arrow is starting from
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: a low basement. You might say, but at least it's
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: moving in the correct direction now. So he was pretty
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: much a permanent top ten fixture for most of the weekend,
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: so it's not worried what to be. But it's certainly
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: better than it was, which I guess if you're looking
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: for small victories, that is one.
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: You got to take those wins when you can get
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: them in any sort of form. But let's look ahead
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: to this weekend because, like I mentioned earlier, it's back
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: to back Grand PRIs and we are heading to the
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Cathedral of Speed. Iconic Tete circuit of Acid. For me,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: it's one of my favorites. I love it. It's so flat,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: but there's so much the corners of the camber that
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: really hugged you in.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: Like it's such a cool track.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: I last year when I was there, I caught up
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: with Center and we did a track walk around, So
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you can head over to the YouTube channel and you
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: can find that if you want.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: To see that.
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was quite cool. But Matt, looking your head
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: to this weekend. I mentioned it earlier. Pecko's got the
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: t tee circuit tattooed on him because that was his
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: first victory, So you know, iconic memories for him.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Mark was saying in last week's.
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: Presser it's not a strong circuit for him, but we
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: don't trust the word he says anymore. No, what what
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: are you predicting? Was your thoughts coming in to this weekend.
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: I'm going to start by asking you how much water
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: you're going to have to drink over the course of
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: this weekend and how much sunscreen you're going to have
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: to slap on, because from what I've read, it's going
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: to be the hottest Dutch GP that's ever happened. They're
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: giving temperatures, you know, mid to late thirties on Saturday
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: and Sunday, which is absolutely crazy for that part of
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: the world. When you think and north that circuit is
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: so this strikes me as being it's going to be
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: a survival of the fittest as well as the fastest strike.
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: It's going to be one of those races. It's an
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: absolute war of attrition around there. It's such a physical
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: track at the best of times, you add, I mean,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: I can't remember race days there that have even hit
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: the thirties before, quite frankly, so this is going to
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: be a whole different challenge and I'm just going back
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: to that little visual that you painted before of Iagour
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: looking like he could go and do an other Czech
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: Crond Prix, while Mark Marks and Pecopino I had their
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: tongues ta getting out of their mouths after Pruda on Sunday.
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: So I dare say that Aprilli is going to work
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: pretty well around there. And if there was ever a
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: track that you might put money on Iagura to actually
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: win his first Grand Prix, given the form that he's
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: in and the fact that he doesn't seem to be
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: affected by the heat like some of them, that might
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: be a very very good shout.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: I love that it's brilliant. It's so cool that it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: just so I captured it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I just doing Iagura things, and I feel like we're
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: going to have that expection expectation again this weekend.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: I wanted to basically ask you prediction.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to go straight out with it, Matt,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: prediction this weekend is Mark really going to keep playing
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: everyone's bluff or we're going to see a Prillier dominate,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: because you know, historically the Prillier haven't always been strong
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: at this track. Correctly, if I'm wrong here, But I'm
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: trying to think last year was Mark.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Who won in the end.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Bazeki was right behind him last year, and that
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: was kind of the first weekend last year where you thought, oh,
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: this is Brillian is quite good, isn't it. They're starting
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: to come on a little bit. Like Mark basically rode
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: just a defensive master class there last year. I don't
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: think he was actually faster than bes there last year.
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: He was just fast in the two quarters that matted
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: and he was sort of a match for him for
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: the rest of the lap. And Mark just rode those
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: to those last two left handers coming into that last
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: stadium section. I don't think he made a mistake for
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: forty minutes, which is a very Mark thing to do.
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: So that was a defensive win for Mark. I feel that, yes,
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: he was playing down his chances at Bruno. His history
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: at Bruneau suggested that was a bit of a red herring.
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: He's not generally been as good at Asen as he
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: has been at somewhere like Bruno. He would get out
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: of this weekend with a podium would be pretty happy.
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: I would think, I think Banga is going to be
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: super strong, but I'll be more interested in that you
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: know the Apulia, you look at it twelve months on
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: from when they were at Assen last year. It's a
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: much different proposition Now there's it's either the you know
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: it's one or one A in terms of the best
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: bike on the grid, where we've never really said that before.
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: Coming into this race weekend, a lot of eyes on
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: Marco Perzeki, right, there's a lot of sort of face
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: saving and bounce back storylines going this weekend. I don't
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: think he necessarily needs to win this weekend, but man
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: like as a recovery from what happened last weekend at Bruno,
• 56:14
  Speaker 4: if he has a really really strong weekend, that just
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: removes that doubt of is he starting to hear the
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: footsteps a little bit coming behind him? Because the best
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: that we saw in the first four or five rounds
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: is not the best that we've seen in the last
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: four and so I'll be super curious to see how
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: he bounces back. And in saying all of that, if
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: it is thirty seven degrees, Igor will win and he
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: will look completely cool doing it, and he'll wonder what
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: everyone's passing out the sun for. He will just think
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: it's completely fined.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: It's so true. It's just it's so true. It's right there.
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: But yeah, someday I'm hearing is going to be bloody hot.
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: As Bossy in Bruno, I was struggling and I was complaining,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: everyone is so hot.
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: They're like, you should be used to this. Nah, nah,
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: not at the moment, not where it's winter. No, not
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: like that, not like that. And they're doing it other suits.
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. It's crazy anyway.
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: The concept of that right now, being in Melbourne, right now,
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: where I don't think it's been more than about thirteen
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: degrees for about three weeks, I'd probably not make the
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: end of thirty seven laps.
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: I might just retire halfway through for a sleep or something.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Well, actually, I remember what I wanted to say.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: It's talking about the heat and for everyone on World
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Cup fever right now, imagine if we got our hydration
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: break well they did. Imagine if the writer's got to
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: do a little so I just need to stop and
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: get some electrolytes, have a quick WII and then I'll
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: continue on.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: It could be a bit like the Tour de France
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: where someone's just handing bottles to them as they're coming past.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: And they're having a quick trink on the way through
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: and just tossing them back over their shoulder. That could
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: be interesting, but yeah, no hydration breaks in Motor GP
• 57:39
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  Speaker 1: that pretty much rounds us up here. I'm in Amtinam,
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we will, guys. We will catch up with.
• 59:00
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