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Below Deck Med Season Premiere: "Rue's Ruse" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama, Darling. Chu Chit Chat, Cha chit chat drama, Darling.
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Chatcha shat drama Darling. Oh, hello, everybody, welcome back. It's
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drama, Darling. How's it going, everybody? It's Tuesday. It is
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September twenty sixth. Just thought a bit shout out to the twenty sixth anyone
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whose birthday it is today? Happy birthday, Darling. So today we're doing
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Below Deck Mediterranean. Emilydesis is here. Hi, am hi. As you
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pointed out, we're both wearing Maroon. I don't know. I don't know
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how that worked. You know what, We're just on the same page today,
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we're on the same page. We do have a little bit of serving
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dish to discuss. I got a couple of things to chat about then,
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and we're going to talk about Below Deck Med's. Oh, what's your things
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with some dish? Who's there? Someone's at the door. It's Kim Selcieg.
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Hey, haters, I'm here, what's up, haters? I'm still
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in my house. This is so this news just kills me. TMC is
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reporting. This is the exclusive that Kim headline dismiss the divorce. We're having
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a ton of sex. Judge so, according to TMZ, Kim is firing
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back at Kroi, claiming that his latest divorce petition is a sham and wants
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to get it tossed because they're still having a lot of sex. She says
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that she's been repeatedly banging my strange husband ever since he filed for divorce from
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her for the second time, and Kim says that kroix claim that the marriage
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is I retrievidally broken is bogus though, according to her, because how can
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it be broken if they're still doing it? Damn so weird to me.
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I don't understand how she keeps releasing statements like without him and then his statements
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are so opposite. I know, it's it's very it's confusing. I assume
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there's lawyers involved that are really pissed or entertainment. I mean, this is
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this is certainly something for us, and it is like every other day.
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I could have sworn I saw something about like Croy maybe he was gonna do
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some sort of strip show in Vegas. Oh, so did you see that.
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I didn't even dig into it. I haven't even had time because this
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news just bumped that right out of there. So It's like I can't keep
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up with the ping pong. I'm going every other every other story is what
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I'll report. At this level, you almost have to. And I can't
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believe how relevant that they are being treated in the press, like as though
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they I mean, because they aren't that relevant. No, but this is
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bonkers. That's probably why, I guess. But like you know, at
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some point cut and run. Yes, I guess, maybe because Kim keeps
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releasing statements. Hell yeah, if I'm TMZ, why am I still?
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It must get clicks, That's what it is. The story must get clicks.
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I love going to stories on Instagram and seeing the post and then going
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straight to comments and then people are like, uh, can someone just tell
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me what happens? I don't have to click? Can you do me as
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solid? Or someone will be like, don't waste it, I'll tell you
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and then they just spill it. It's so funny. I just the comment
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sections and certain things are just so funny. People are equally as horrible as
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they are brilliant. That's what I found, you know, with the internets
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and such. Anyway, in other news, Deadline has reported that it turns
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out and Universal has in fact strengthened their workplace conduct guidelines for reality shows.
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So Francis Berwin has released a statement and essentially some guidelines and sent them all
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out to all of the production companies that work for Bravo and she oh,
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by the way, she's the NBC Universal chairman, and so she sent this
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letter out to external production companies to inform the inform them of the changes.
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And the first point is about alcohol, building on their current this is building
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on our current protocols. We will require that you deliver an expanded alcohol related
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training to the cast, crew and production team, which must include details on
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how production will monitor alcohol, including when consumption limits may be appropriate and when
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and how to intervene to maintain cast and crew safety. So that is one
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point. Also, there's some stuff here about psychological well being. The company
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already requires all reality participants to meet with a psychologist prior to filming and are
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provided with a with psychological support during and after filming to the extent needed,
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and some shows are required to have on site psychological support. So that was
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the case before. Now there must be psychological care after filming that includes mental
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health support to cast through the airing of the show and beyond, including mandatory
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on set support during reunion tapings. Oh my god, reunion tapings. Wow,
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almost like a almost like antimacy coordinator for them, like in that like
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like coaching them through how to get through a reunion kind of thing. Yeah,
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or like you know, a boxing match when you go off and you
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meet with your coach and they I want to coach, I want to coach,
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give your massage. They slap you in the face a little, they
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spray some water on your wounds, they open your eyes, they shake you
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a little bit, and they're like, are you ready. I'm not going
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to put you back in the ring until you can see straight. You know
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what would be awesome is if they actually cover the coaching and then the coaches
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also get into it because they disagree about their coaching styles. I mean that
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will make the reunions five parts. And I'm fine with that. I think
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that at this point, what like if that's going to be the case and
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instead of exploiting that, like good little reality, whoors we are? That's
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right where we went? But your face is like excuse me, I'm like
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yeah, aha, sure, yes, I am, okay, that's me.
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What would make it to feel and I don't feel that. Yes,
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I think the best way to do this in order for it to not be
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exploited both by the cameras and by the actual reality stars, because they would
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exploit that too. Let's not put it past him. Ten spiritual gurus,
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right, and not one of them has ever corracked a psychology book. But
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I think it should be behind closed doors, you know what I mean,
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Like, Okay, this person is in the psychological warfare the vault room,
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right, so like they need to get themselves together and no cameras allowed,
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No one gets to go in there. They come out when they're ready type
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of situation. Honestly, that is great too, because what we all really
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wish would happen at these reunions deep down when the blowouts happen in the season,
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and we all wish these people would see the light. And if there
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is a coach there, because Andy's not ever really gonna be like, hey,
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you're contradicting yourself. Well, he does, but they still don't listen.
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Well, he doesn't lean in as hard as I would like on some
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professional on some reunions, he does on others. He's like I can't with
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this right, right, It goes blue in the face. But I really
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think having somebody there on site to be like Teresa, No, they won't
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get through. They won't get through either. There's no I would And I'm
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then so why I'm saying bravo, let me add it. I am a
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train. You will run screaming and pounding your head against the wall. No
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one will ever penetrate. Certain real I will come to the reunion dressed in
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the appropriate color gown as a coach, and I'll have a bag of props
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for people to use. But like soft you know, squishballs and you know,
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yeah not you know, megaphones and binders, Well they are helpful.
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I think I would love to coach a coach if I may be so bold,
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and I will be okay. By the way, this is like the
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oldest trick in the book in terms of, hey, we're going to regulate
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ourselves so you don't have to whoever. Like this is like the NPA back
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when the studio systems were like going out the studio. Yeah, the Motion
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Picture Association back in the day when when they created the rating system and everything,
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that was like the studios being like, hey, we don't need to
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be regulated here we'll handle it and then they kind of like control it.
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So hopefully sometimes that works and sometimes it doesn't. In other industries not so
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much like for example, the stock market, but hopefully it works to reality
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TV. Well, we'll see. They're also asking for enhanced workplace training specifically
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tailored to unscripted production environment, and all principles of production companies, including those
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that only occasionally interact with cast and crew, will be required to attend training.
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It also implements more serious consequences for physical violence on set. So and
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then also what else is in here enhanced communication between the production companies and mandatory
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on set production company HR okay, oh yeah. And then finally this is
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in specific this is almost addressing specifically about Bethany's point about the NDAs. You
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know, with her whole case here, one of her things was that she
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thought that the NDAs were unrealistic. So NBC Universal and Bravo in particular has
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made it clear that it's confidential. Confidential reality clauses are not intended to prevent
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disclosure by cast and crew of unlawful acts in the workplace, and says that
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it has not enforced them in that manner, and that in quotes Francis Berwick
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says, we expect that production companies will ensure that all talent and crew agreements
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have confidentiality language that carves out reporting of unlawful conduct. So that has been
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addressed there in closedals that yet, no, this is only conduct guidelines,
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got it. We believe our standards have promoted a safer and more respectful work
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environment. That said, we want to take the opportunity, in collaboration with
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the production companies to continue to strengthen our approach. To that end, we
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have developed additional resources policies and protocols that will further enhance the workplace environments on
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our third party productions and will strengthen our oversight. So that's what that letter
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essentially was. That's certainly a step in the right direct for the cause in
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which I know Bethany was standing for and a lot of reality stars were up
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against supporting this. So yeah, because I've also I love that they have
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something to pre like almost train you mentally to be one of these shows,
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because that when you it is kind of like a relliant. It's a sport
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almost to be on reality TV, just to have the stamina to be able
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to handle the hours and hours and hours of filming, but how can you
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train? I mean, this is the thing. I think it's great that
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they have these guidelines, but is this really I think the most important takeaway,
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at least for me, is like the intervention on set when something is
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going left. And case in point with the recent controversy that happened in Jersey
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between Jennifer and Danielle, and Danielle apparently had a crumpled up cup and threw
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it at Jennifer's face. Now it was glass, Well, I don't believe
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it was. I think it was. I think it was a cup.
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It said it was a cup in the article, and then I saw something
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else that was a crumpled up cup. It didn't say that it was a
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glass, right, it was probably a jagged, crumpled up cup. I'm
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just this is allegedly, assuming I have no clue what it was a lot
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of force. But like, well, think about when that plastic cup that
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Ramona threw it at kristin takeman in the like a solo cup or something a
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plastic cup. Yeah that's fine, Yes, I agree, okay, but
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I mean they are I think on on pause right now? You know what
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I mean, they're on a break, and that's good because there should be
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consequences. So I think intervention in that way when things get physical, you
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know, they are placed on a hold and they can't shoot anymore, or
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they're docked a certain amount of pay, or if there's some sort of alcohol
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infused fight for horrible essay that we saw, you know, attempt at essay
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or what have you, allegedly on below deck down under, you know,
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they intervened. So I think a lot of these guidelines are great to support
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the crew and the producers as to where they should intervene. As far as
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the talent themselves, I don't know how you can reel that in from the
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beginning, the middle, over the end. There's such I've just heard enough
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of these folks say I had no idea what I was getting into. Because
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usually when you're cast on one of these shows, it's kind of up to
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the veteran cast or former cast to kind of if you can connect with them.
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It's kind of on you as the new cast member to kind of get
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info in tidbits from people and hope that it's okay. Like I think,
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just having hey, I'm sure there's a little bit of like, here's what
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to expect, but to have just like a they need a welcome video,
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Amy, I think, yeah, just doing it. Yeah, you're right,
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like you know, here's what you signed up for and get right because
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as much as we see and I think, like I don't have any idea,
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Like I'm always like Danielle, you knew what you were getting into when
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you got on the show. Like and then it's like, I don't know
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what fifteen hours of filming actually feels, like how much I should actually be
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hydrating? Like you know what I mean, right, fifteen hours in a
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row and always and the paranoia and whatever's involved. Like just knowing what emotional
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hurdles are actually gonna be up and coming would be whatever you do is going
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to have hurdles. Thank you, Right, I think you make a good
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point. I I kind of like threw the baby out with the bathwater there
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like that. You know, when a reality star comes on a show,
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it's like it's gonna be a ship storm no matter what way you slice it
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or how much you warn them. You can't prepare them. But at the
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same time, I think you're right. I think that there's something to be
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said about having some sort of preparation and like, here you go, this
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is what potentially is what's ahead of you, and these are the things that
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you should do to better serve yourself in this situation. And then the producer
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step in in the interim, the producers and the crew helped to provide a
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safer environment. Yeah, because we know that there's also the producers that these
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folks are coached to get lean in on that drama, lean in, lean
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in, but like, I don't think they're really coached on like anything else,
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so it might be really helpful. I don't know, it would be
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good to have just a separate I mean, I mean, as we are
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making up these rules, why not you know, you've got the producers who
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should stick to their jobs and do what they do best, right, then
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maybe you have someone who's there who's kind of like you know, the police,
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who's kind of like, Okay, we need to have a time out,
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or this person needs a break or you know. I guess that that
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is one way to handle it as well, Because if a producer is leaning
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into producing, I don't know if they're going to be able to have the
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foresight to I don't know now, I mean, no, I'm with you.
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I'm just now thinking, like, whoever that good cop is, they're
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going to like get shoved in a broom closet and locked in, and the
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producers. I wouldn't want to be that. I don't know what happened.
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I know, I know, I know, I don't know. It's all
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like it's been the wild West for as long as we've seen it, you
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know, Yeah, and it will continue to change and evolve as things move
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forward. We'll see anyway. Well, uh, that is the news for
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to day. I wanted to let you know a couple things. Reality Bites
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Live is this Saturday, September thirtieth. I know, I'm very excited.
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We have Emily Simpson, we have Kristin Takeman, and guess what we have
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a very Emily has the pop of Color in her hands right now, literally
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pop of Color. I've been opened it in seven years, but it was
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great coverage when it worked, and I love that color. It's a Ramona
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blue. What's the name of it? Can you see this blue moon?
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Okay? Sorry, Roona chunky, this nail polishes you keep it going dry
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and cracked? Okay, it's actually not Wow, Way to go, Kristin
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takem Liquid. Yes, way to go. That's impressive. Duh. Well,
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guess what. I have a very exciting announcement that goes along with Reality
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Bites Live. Because not only will you see christ and Takeman at the brunch
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and Emily Simpson at the happy hour, but guess who also will be at
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the happy hour Gina crist Jesus. I know. This is a very exciting
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announcement. So if you haven't gotten your tickets, you can go to Reality
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Bites Live dot com and make sure you check the website for all the updates
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where it's going to be, the new location, the parking, everything,
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Just go there, Reality Bites Live. That's true. That night's going to
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be a real Papa color. Oh my god. Chef Stewart and I are
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very excited. And I will say this, guys. I picked up the
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new mugs yesterday. Look at abba dah. I know, great, thank
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you. I love them. They're like a forest green and then they have
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the pink writing drama Darling on it. I'm very excited about it. So
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font I will have these at the Reality Bites Live event. So super excited.
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I just I drove all the way to Oxnard yesterday to pick them up
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at the warehouse. Personally, it was a very exciting moment. I like
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was so psyched. I've never had my own merch before, so this is
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very thrilling. I will have them in Vegas to sell them there at my
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Cabarem. I'll figure out how to get them to you guys and put them
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up for sale. But I'm very excited. Also, Cabareami, like is
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almost sold out. Thursday's pretty much done. Last time I oh, the
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last time I checked, I feel like there were two tickets, two seats
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left, but I think those are gone. And Friday night's sold out,
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and so Saturday is the only day that you can get tickets to Cabareami.
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Twenty one Seeds Infused Tequila is presenting it. Please, if you want to
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get your tickets for the show, get them for Saturday. You can go
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to notoriety live dot com or you can go to the link in my bio
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on my Instagram. Please do not forward or share with anyone under twenty one,
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and please drink responsibly. And I can't wait to see you guys.
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Bear so exciting. Yes, two seats left for what night Thursday? Okay,
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Well, Kim and Kroy date night. Yeah, and they're separate seats.
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They're not even together. Hey, that'll work right, perfect. I
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know it's perfect for them anyway, Emily hob but duh, it's time to
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go to the Italian Revere. Ah wow, Wow, it's such a beautiful
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day to go boating. Thank you. When she said that, I was
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like, that's just the Amy now steering the ship. Also, you know,
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I mean when I was on Reality Checked for years, I've been talking
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about those White Capris years since it began, and I feel like, you
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know, though it's been there for all of us to see, it's nice
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to see that on the actual show they are mentioning the White Capris quite often.
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Now. I have a whole song in my cabaret about Captain Sandy and
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the White Capris spoiler alert. But anyway, gosh a steak. Now,
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this is wild to be on this yacht as opposed to the one last year
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that was a fucking hot mess. Do you remember the hybrid? Yes?
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Oh my god. This is what a what a change, what a difference.
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And this this vessel, as Sandy says, it is the vessel of
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all vessels. I mean, I can't believe this This is such a game
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changer. Now they were in I want to say, was it Malta or
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something last year time? Yeah? I feel well they definitely were, But
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was it last season? Was it last season? Yeah? I feel like
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it was because I think it was like, there's no reason they should have
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been there because it wasn't equipped for super yachts. It was so hard getting
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out. They kept hitting the dolphins. It was so hard getting back in.
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You know. Then they had the hybrid issues, the air conditioner,
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the doors, like it was a mess. Things were shutting down. This
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to me is already on a whole nother level for Captain Sandy. The fact
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that they have this frickin' pilot like that has to come on board, you
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know, to just have go with them to leave and then get back on
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his boat. You know, they have this unbelievable MCA inspector that comes on
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that is inspecting all these documents. And who would have thought that we'd get
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such drama right out of the gates. I could not believe this first episode,
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Emily. I mean, we have been through it with Ruin and not
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and not like drama among the cast, just like like total drama against the
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man like the government the man, and by the man, we mean Captain
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Sandy's white caprice. That's right, they are the man they represent. But
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yes, like just getting through the whole, like trying to leave the port,
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which again is amazing. They're in Genua, Italy and it's a commercial
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port, so I mean, they are strict as you're gonna They're about as
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strict as you can get. I mean, and it should have been a
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drinking game. The amount of times that captain said, like, so we
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can get arrested because of one person, So you're saying they can stop the
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boat and arrest us all because of one person. I mean, it was
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just like, oh my god, I'm so stressed out right now. Yeah,
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and I am actually pretty surprised, Like now I need to know the
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whole when Ruth's whole backstory. I'm gonna call him rue because that's what he
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said to call him to his friends. And I'm a friend, but I'm
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not a friend. Actually I don't know. I don't know a friend of
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I'm a friend of. But he could have just it could have just been
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him, because that show, really, this first episode was just him.
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I mean, it was like we got to get him back friend dying,
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which really was sad his origin story. But here's the thing, Yes,
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those documents had me wondering, like, what's really going on here? Did
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his friend actually die? Was he looking for an out? I was like,
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what's going on? But I had questions, Oh, whoa because popped
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my water toy. I'm willing to say that the friend. Something actually happened
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to the friend. It's just that usually when there's a friend or someone that's
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not on the boat, that something happens to you. Yes, I agree.
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We get a bit of a photo montage, we get a bit of
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a wait for the photo. I was waiting for the photos too. Yeah,
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and we didn't get that. And he clearly still came back for interviews
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because he's still talking about the situation in retrospect on the show. So I'm
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like, well, he must have a picture on his phone or something.
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No, well maybe they didn't allow maybe her family didn't allow him to use
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it. It was it was a guy, and no, I thought it
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was it was a girl. No, I thought he I thought he said
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it was a guy. I thought he said it was like his buddy that
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he since he was eight, right, But then late I thought, I
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assume that too, but then later he did say, she my she this
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she that I first called the morning, my last call at night. Okay,
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well, here's the thing. If you took the picture, you own
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the rights to it. So I don't know, I don't think the the
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but it's someone else's image. Doesn't matter. That's how paparazzi like, it
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doesn't matter you you That's that's the law. Yeah, that's like what so
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like all these pictures of like Marilyn Monroe, Like Hugh Hefner had bought pictures
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of Marilyn Monroe naked from the photographer and used that as the cover of Playboy.
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Marilyn Monroe never got a dime for that cover. Oh my image.
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Yeah, okay, but that was a professional photographer where it signed. It
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doesn't matter. That's that's how you can take a picture of a celebrity in
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a restaurant and send it to TMC and they can use it. You're the
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photographer. Do you own the image? Hmmm? Okay, do you remember,
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like the Obama do you remember the television and broadcasts might have different rules.
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I don't know. We don't know, because like darlings, we don't
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know because like when people are wasted and drunk, that's why they blur out
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people's faces all the time on TV because you don't have their right to air
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them. Hmmm. I don't know. Yeah, I think I might be
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right on this one. I don't sound off, darlings, but I don't
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if that is that. Let's get back to you. Let's get back to
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your point about this rue, this rue being, this being a ruse by
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rue, because do you believe that this actually happened? I did. I
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believe. I was like, this is the worst luck anyone could possibly have,
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and this is like somebody who also is still trying to pull something over
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on someone because he doesn't have the right. I don't think it's luck,
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because no, I think that the death was was horrible. But then on
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top of that, it's like everything caught up with him and now he's losing
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his job, and so essentially it's just a real big bout of bad luck
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because the choices that he made with you know, his documentation being fake,
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he thought he could get away with for so long, and then all of
28:48
a sudden, the bottom dropped out under him, under him, and then
28:53
this unfortunate thing happened in his life, so essentially, yeah, I think
29:00
also he he seemed to have been really uh getting us ready for his wild
29:07
origin story, and then we saw it play out in ten minutes and he'sa
29:11
off the boat, Like we saw what that wild origin story actually leads to,
29:15
and it's forteing documents and trying to pull one over on oh god,
29:19
an entire production crew, and yeah, he can get away with it.
29:23
I mean, this is wild. Like he said that that was that wasn't
29:29
even his face on the certification, Like that wasn't even his face, and
29:33
he's been using that this entire time. He thought that he'd be able to
29:37
get away with this. Well, it sounds like his job is really in
29:44
demand, so maybe others saw it and we're just like we're gonna wing it.
29:48
And then this particular port has like is so high traffic and has actual
29:55
officials working it, so that like, this is not right. It's interesting
29:57
that they even realized that wasn't him, Like I would know his face well
30:03
enough to know it wasn't him. I was confused about that too, Like
30:04
how would they have known that? Yeah, I don't know, unless they
30:10
have some kind of face recognition or there was two different pieces of ID and
30:12
they compared the pictures as obviously that could have been it too, but he
30:18
said it himself. He's never been on a commercial boat, so that would
30:23
have like he could have fled, He could have flown through in other situations
30:29
and no one would have noticed. But this was wild because she was like
30:33
when she called him into her office or whatever and then oh, like to
30:40
show him the document. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, like basically
30:44
call him out, to basically call him out, and she's like, you
30:47
have to go to school to get this. Where did you go to class
30:51
class? He's like, excuse me, I know what class? By class
30:55
do you mean like a place where you go, you know, where you
30:59
learn? And then she's like, oh, he says Monaco. I went
31:04
to like it was this. Yeah. She was like, yeah, you
31:08
can't get your yacht masters on a boat in Monaco. They don't have a
31:12
school. And I was like, this is really intense right now. It
31:18
was literally like a horror movie. It's like they don't have a school in
31:25
Monico. It's like, oh my god, Captain Sandy Crack like, oh
31:30
you know that everything. So I was willing to give him a little bit
31:37
of the benefit of the doubt that maybe he was conned into thinking that he
31:45
was Oh really, Oh it was like, Emily, come on, be
31:52
smarter, this is we're all getting bullshitted here. So yeah, and then
31:57
and that is when I was like, I wonder if his friend even died,
32:01
Like I will, if he was just like highly emotional because he felt
32:06
like he was about to get caught and possibly even arrested, and just an
32:10
acquaintance died and he just like leaned in because he was having a fucking terrible
32:15
time. I mean, it's it's I don't say it's not possible, but
32:21
wow, that would be pretty psychotic, it would be. But I think
32:25
that also it's very specific. You know, he said it was a head
32:30
on collision. True, But I'm saying, like, all right, I'm
32:36
willing to say that, you're saying that, Okay, you're willing to say,
32:39
yeah, this is a negotiation. No wait, I'm willing to say
32:42
a close friend died because I think that you were sort of on a you
32:46
know, trying to communicate that maybe someone did die that he knew of but
32:52
didn't know very well, and then leaned into it as if it were a
32:55
close friend. But when I heard him crying. I was like, Oh,
33:00
this poor guy, he knows he's busted. No, this is before
33:04
I thought somebody died. Oh, I thought he is really upset about this
33:07
yacht master's thing. And this is like I thought, oh my god,
33:13
he is a mess because this is ruining everything and he's the jig is up
33:17
and he's busted and he's really taking this hard and this is probably good.
33:22
But I was then and then the fact that it was this person that died,
33:24
I was like, this is nuts. Yeah, I I was with
33:30
I'm one hundred percent. I felt bad for him, and I felt like
33:32
he thought that he he had counted on this money, he had counted on
33:37
this contract, and then he wasn't going to be able to get the papers
33:40
in time. That's what I thought he was crying about. Yes, he
33:43
wasn't gonna be he couldn't his friend wasn't gonna be able to get him.
33:45
It's like, let's forget it. He can't get those papers. And my
33:49
heart broke for him in that moment. Yeah, and then when I saw
33:52
that it was a friend died and then we weren't getting a photo fut.
33:55
Yeah, I was wondering about the photo and then later in that office with
34:01
the I and then when we found out it was a fake ID, and
34:05
then with Sandy, I was like, I don't know that I do.
34:08
I wonder how close he was with that friend and the pressure of everything,
34:12
because then he could say like I wanted to leave to go be with my
34:15
friends and family. My friends are my family, so I'm good, I'm
34:21
just gonna leave, right. I would have thought he would have done that
34:23
pretty quickly, but the fact that he was like, get it together,
34:27
and then he was gonna Boson all day, you know what I mean.
34:30
When after he found out that news, I thought, Wow, he's really
34:31
just gonna just push forward in Boson. Well, look, we don't know
34:38
anything about him in terms of like if he's a narcissist or whatever, but
34:44
I have a feeling like he's he's gotten pretty far in life. Just work
34:46
in the system, and anything's absolutely anything's possible. He's a scrapper, that's
34:53
the thing. And so many yachties are and I hate to you know category,
35:00
but you it's often a tale as old as time on the sea.
35:04
When you hear about the stories of a lot of the people there, they
35:07
have a sense of wonderless. They they a lot of them come from broken
35:10
families, and some of them don't. Some of them have extremely close families
35:14
and they're really tight. Come from the sprouts. That blew my mind.
35:20
I was like, sprouts. I'm like, so if something goes wrong,
35:23
you just buy the yacht, a new yacht for Sandy. That's how this
35:27
is gonna work. I could not believe that. I was like, what
35:31
are you doing? No? I mean I love it. I mean it's
35:34
great too, I love it. I just was like, dang, that
35:38
is a fortune. And then it was really sad that her dad died because
35:42
when she was like I want to they had already painted the picture that she
35:45
doesn't even know how to fold socks, you know, they had already painted
35:50
the picture that she's so green, because Jessica was talking the stuff about it
35:54
as a stew she's really a deckhand, right right, yeah, right,
35:59
So it just they they were painting her out to be like not exactly the
36:04
brightest ball, you know. And then all of a sudden, she in
36:07
her confessional, she was like, I want to be a captain someday.
36:10
And I was like, okay, right, because you did. And then
36:15
and then She's like, my dad died. I was like, oh god,
36:16
I feel like such an asshole because I was doubting her ability for skills.
36:22
And then I realizing, Oh, then I realized, oh, she
36:25
really is a deckhand. She has and that's that's where you texted me like
36:29
I don't believe her, and he was like, I don't believe her.
36:31
Her dad didn't die. And I was like, I know, I don't
36:35
think Ru's friend died either, and yeah, we don't believe any of this.
36:37
This is just a chipple. Liars, the liars. Oh my god,
36:50
shamphile, I'm liars. Yeah, I he died. He had brain
36:57
cancers fifty I look that right. Oh wow, that is awful. That
37:01
is so hard and oh god. Uh But anyway, I I feel like,
37:10
uh, what we're oh, in terms of being a scrapper, and
37:15
like RU as a scrapper, I also think that those are the kind of
37:19
people that can think very quickly and save the day. So I kind of
37:22
want that Gary, Yes, Colin, yeah, yes, you know these
37:29
are all scrappers. Yeah, they can fix your engine. They're like mcguyver
37:32
in that way, and that's kind of what you you want. Somebody that
37:37
can do that, and that isn't just like so static in they're thinking right,
37:40
so and obviously they had a hard time finding a boson. I mean
37:45
it's the middle of the Med season, That's what I mean. That's why
37:46
I'm wondering if that's how he gets away with it, because it's so in
37:51
demand. I mean, I bet there's part of Sandy. Well, I
37:54
was gonna say, I bet there's part of Sandy that's like fuck it.
37:58
But oh yeah, she's government ever ever, she isn't by the book lady.
38:04
And then her trying to call Norma and be like, ah, Norma,
38:08
let me your best bos ends and Norma's like, sorry, don't have
38:13
any for two weeks since she's like god darn it. But I think this
38:16
is maybe a blessing. Because Ruth couldn't even tell the distance. He was
38:22
wird, right, that was a red flag? Yeah, yeah, so
38:27
I think that that was Yeah, maybe we got ahead of something. Yeah,
38:32
we sure did get a He calls and says, you know, it's
38:37
just not working out. It was going to go back to South Africa.
38:39
Yeah, probably a good idea, Probably a good idea. And he said
38:44
nothing. He gave no indication of any truth, and she said thank you
38:47
for your and Sandy's like, thank you for your honesty, like honesty for
38:51
what calling back? I mean maybe since he called. I think because he
38:54
called and he didn't lie. He did, he didn't say an oh,
39:00
he didn't tell the truth, but he didn't also lie further. You know,
39:04
He's like, I can't work it out. He was the most generic.
39:08
Yeah, it sure was. And in that office, that little office,
39:13
I was squirming in my chair. Yes, And documents are in front
39:17
of him and he's looking at him like, how can I change those?
39:22
I can't? Just so awkward, like, and the certification was a photo
39:32
copy. That was a photocopy, right, the certification with his You're supposed
39:37
to have the originals, right, But I is frustrating because it's like,
39:40
who wants to bring your original copies with you everywhere? I know. But
39:44
in terms of forging documents, I'm like, why do you photo shop the
39:49
copy? If you're using copies anyway, why wouldn't you put your real photo
39:53
on it? Right? If we're all bullshitting here, like I guess I
40:00
didn't understand that. Yeah, choice in terms of being a con man,
40:06
Yeah, that didn't really. Yeah, that's a really good point. He's
40:09
not a good con man. No, he's not. So the roue is
40:15
up, the room is up. You know what I love. I love
40:20
nothing more than when Sandy is invited to dinner and she gets to tell her
40:27
story. Yeahding saved my life. You know, he's a good kid.
40:30
But see, here's something that I didn't know. I mean, actually I
40:35
may have read a little bit of it in her book, but she didn't.
40:37
She's never really said it on the show when she said that her neighbor
40:40
she was a good kid, but her neighbor gave her a coylude seven fourteen
40:45
coilude, which I don't know. I mean, there's a name for it.
40:50
And that is just so sad because then she was just chase. She
40:54
says she was chasing that drug drain all that whole time, and she was
40:58
like I was getting arrested and then day I woke up and got help.
41:01
And that's why she's called to be a mentor to people. And then her
41:07
friend Kean was like, how many chances do you give them? She's like
41:10
three. It's like it's just so funny to me because they're really I mean,
41:15
you do have to have your boundaries obviously, but it's like that's why
41:19
I always give chances, unlimited chances, how many three? And then you're
41:22
out. I mean, isn't that kind of the norm for however many chances?
41:28
Everyone ever week usually gives everyone. I mean not on Captain Jason's boat.
41:32
You're really done on that boat. I mean you didn't get like maybe
41:37
you're right, you get like a warning and then you're out. There was
41:40
like one morning. I didn't also know the context of that, like how
41:46
many chances? How when? Because to be right rue not knowing the distance
41:52
to that's one. Yeah, on just like a sample question, a sample
41:59
question and account in that way as one of your strikes. Absolutely, yeah,
42:04
red flag, red flag, red flag. So we have Okay,
42:09
So here's a question I have for you, because Nat stepped in as temporary
42:15
chiefs doe because we have the chief stew and the second stew stuck in immigration
42:22
and that's Kyle who was coming back again and then to me as well.
42:28
So Nat, was she even supposed to be on this charter at all?
42:32
Or do they call her in to save the day in general? Because I
42:37
could not get that story straight, Okay, I she said, yeah,
42:44
that she was supposed to be second stew oh, and that's why they had
42:52
the temp. Brooke is a temp. Oh Brook the Brook is the temp.
42:59
Yeah, temporary stew right. So I'm not totally sure. Well,
43:06
I don't know why. I for some reason got confused, but I'm sure
43:08
she's there the whole season. It just it just sounded like she was like,
43:14
well, honestly in you know, you know, somewhere else, and
43:17
then I could Colt Floyd a year up and I'll could be here, and
43:21
so I was very confused. I don't know. Yeah, So NAT's there,
43:25
which is fun, and she's the temporary chief stew We've got Kyle and
43:30
Toomey stuck in immigration and that's exciting. So now we're starting off with like
43:36
temporary, we're losing the Boson. The drama is high, the stakes are
43:39
very high. We got Luca who popped over from down Under and according to
43:45
Sandy just says, you know, Captain Jason highly recommends. You know,
43:49
when a captain recommends someone, you know, you take him on their recommendation.
43:52
That's why I decided to make him the temporary provisional Boson. So now
43:57
he's in there, moving so far, it seems okay. I think like
44:02
it's I In terms of producing the show, I think you always should,
44:07
based on this and sailing yacht, start with the smaller crew. Remember Gary
44:15
had COVID and it makes for drama immediately. Yes, it sure does start
44:20
with a smaller crew. I mean what a mess like. Yeah, and
44:23
this vessel looks enormous and they need as many people as they possibly can get.
44:29
It's four floors, she said, four floors. I love the fact
44:34
that there are all these female deckhands and there are more women on this than
44:38
there are men. Okay, I do too. I did not like.
44:43
I gate why Captain Sandy said it, but she said, I I uh,
44:46
she said a lot of women on this crew. For me, what
44:52
did she say? I wrote it down? She said, for me,
44:53
that's a highlight. And I get what she's saying. But I don't think
44:58
as the person in charge, you can put that out there, because yeah,
45:05
I think you're kind of sewing favoritism when that's not what your intention was.
45:08
You're you're more or less speaking in terms of like like to see the
45:13
industry being more representative, but when you're saying it to your small crew in
45:21
that area, I was like, oh, that's that's not a good look.
45:24
Because if it wasn't dude saying it, because if it was Captain Jason
45:30
saying an all male crew, this is there for me. There there are
45:34
them and their balls, they're just they're just fine. Okay. Now I'm
45:38
saying that as like a very hardcore feminist, But if I know you're saying
45:43
equality is equality and should just be equality across the board, and I understand
45:47
what you're saying in that way in an authoritative position. Yeah, well,
45:53
Sandy really loves you know, there are so few female females in this industry
45:59
and it's it's very difficult, you know. And and so I think that
46:04
her wanting to support that, I mean, to me, in my opinion,
46:07
I don't think that's a bad thing. I think I understand what you're
46:10
saying as far as like, yeah, if that would have come from like
46:14
a man, that would have been that no good look. Pipe So in
46:17
the means for the end of the season, save it for the end and
46:22
say like one thing that I really want to say in terms of the yachting
46:27
business as a whole or something. She has said that in the past.
46:30
I know it just felt weird as your first all hands meeting to be like,
46:36
I am, this is gonna I'm you know. It just made me
46:39
think, like, and that would not have been good if Captain Lee said
46:43
that about oh guys. Yeah, no, I hear you. Oh though
46:45
they're fine, Though they're fine, everyone's fine. I think the guys can
46:52
take one. Take one for the team. Okay, all the balls everywhere,
46:57
all the time. Yeah, but what if there's this So I only
47:00
thought in terms of, like, if I'm a dude and there's a situation
47:05
and I can now claim favoritism, like she's showing favoritism or a past you
47:10
know what I mean. I understand what you're saying. You know, at
47:15
the end of the day, that is the probably the right thing to do.
47:21
But I don't care about that. Amy needs coffee, Mama needs her
47:30
caffeine. Drama. What's in your drama, darling mug? Does it hold
47:35
things besides coffee? Decaf coffee, not real coffee? Yeah? So well,
47:45
speaking of the welcome talk, Sandy's like, God, women are so
47:49
much better than men. I'm so happy you're all here. You didn't hear
47:53
what I said? Did you? What say that? Again? I didn't
47:58
I was like, in your Sandy, K say it again, I said,
48:02
I said, ah, welcome. Women are so much better than men.
48:07
I'm so glad you guys are here. I didn't even clock in.
48:12
I was like, yeah, okay, they are, so keep going.
48:15
Absolutely no drugs unless you're a woman. No drinking on the charter, Unleissa,
48:21
you're a gal. And uh no racist comments and that's for everybody.
48:24
Okay, lead all right, so hey see this, never take it away.
48:31
That's this gorgeous smile. Okay, this means you love to see.
48:36
Okay, we're not cheesy, she gets she gets so cheesy. We're gonna
48:43
rock this. Yeah, no, rock it hard. And then of course
48:46
with all of the charter guests coming in, She's like, we're gonna launch
48:51
every fucking toy, every goddamn water toy that exists. We're gonna fucking plunge
48:59
it. I know, lunch, they're all firing them off the dot.
49:05
Also, I think that guest was a little coach to think they came in.
49:10
Sandy's like, you know, ask us when we're leaving and be not
49:15
about dinner time. Yeah, totally, we're friends. Come on, play
49:22
the game. It'll be good. It gets up. Meanwhile, She's like,
49:25
actually, there's some real fucking drama that's going on right now. So
49:29
what I said to you be a text. Don't even worry about that.
49:31
He's like, no, I'm going with it. I'm going with it.
49:35
He's like, let's go to the wheelhouse and do that thing we talked about.
49:39
So one hour. Okay, Sandy, we're leaving in one hour.
49:44
I'll hold you do it. Call off the ninety dogs all right. Oh
49:51
gosh, the the chef chef Jack looks extremely talented. I mean the brand
49:58
Zeno, the lamb chops, the two ato and mozzarella. Oh, it
50:00
looks so good. He looks great. His story how he was like,
50:07
I was pretty much like catatonic until I was eight, and then they show
50:09
a picture of him and all the pictures of him were like, yeah,
50:14
that was wild. And then it made me laugh though, and I made
50:17
me laugh. He's so funny. All my friends who have had kids that
50:21
were like slow talk to talk and everything, and like, everybody's gonna be
50:25
fine. I think I loved this story because it did you know. I
50:31
think that, you know, we really need to normalize certain things when kids
50:35
are younger. I mean, I talked to so many parents, and you
50:39
worry so much about your kids because of what you see out there, and
50:43
they should be doing this at this age, and the doctor says this,
50:45
and it's like it instills unnecessary fear sometimes. Now there are certainly some markers
50:52
that if those things aren't met, there should be concern in the sense that
50:57
because there's also the other thing where it's like early intervention is always all often
51:00
very key. So there's that too, so that you try to have to
51:05
strike You have to like strike a balance between the two, and it's very
51:08
difficult to do so. But I did love this story that you know,
51:12
he just finally at eight years old, you know, just finally started talking
51:15
and then just didn't stop. And I love that story. Wasn't it weird
51:21
too? Who had the b roll footage? Was it Lara? That was
51:24
the girl from the farm who rolls around in cowshit? I think it was
51:29
Lara, Yeah, Lara, Lara, Lara. Yes, that was wild.
51:32
But that was weird too, to have like just generic b roll of
51:37
a child running. I you and I clocked the same things, I swear,
51:40
because I was looking for the picture of the girl who had passed obviously
51:45
much like you. And this I was like, is this is this?
51:49
Is this like real footage or is this stock footage of a girl running in
51:52
a farm? I was like, this is getting wild because the crew was
51:57
getting younger and younger as I as we grow older, and so as they
52:01
get older. Now it's literally like they have iPhone footage of their child childhood
52:07
and that they can send in. But it was weird footage. They had
52:13
the birthday on recorded and that video footage, which was fine, but then
52:17
there was a child running through a field with like it looked like it was
52:22
shot on like a movie camera, like it looked like like an MVI like
52:25
it. It looked professional, like you would have it in a b Roll
52:29
pharmaceutical commercial or something. I agree, it was very strange. Yeah.
52:35
And then a huge pile of shit and just how she used to roll in
52:38
the warm. I was like, wow, that is farm life, you
52:43
know, Like I don't know, I don't know, I never knew.
52:46
I was like that people with farms and I've never heard that. I never
52:52
heard that. I've never heard it me. She explained it like a pile
52:55
of leaves, like yeah, yeah, the comfort, oh yeah, yes,
53:06
oh my God, well, Nat, I'm excited that Nat is back.
53:09
She's like, smash eight. We're gonna smash eight. Captain Sandy.
53:15
Yeah, they're very cute, very cute. Gosh, you know they they
53:22
they left the dock. Great. Oh. I love the fact that the
53:25
guests, someone's iPhone fell in the hot tub and then slung himself in there
53:31
and then the guy's like, uh, you know their waterpoop. He's like
53:35
it is that was nuts? Like he could have really hurt his neck.
53:44
Oh my god, Yes, that looks so scary because there's like benches in
53:47
that thing and he like chest first, yes is he thinking? I don't
53:54
know. I watched it. I did rewind that way. I did watch
54:00
that twice because it was so great. I like the response. You know
54:04
they're water right, they are. Sandy popped down to the galley as she
54:16
does Jack. That was excellent. You're good, You're good. You big
54:23
act to follow because chef Dave, he's my man. Sandy seemed legit impressed.
54:30
Yeah. With the food, she was yeah, yeah, And I
54:35
did not have high hopes for that. That chocolate cake looked a little dry,
54:38
the sponge looked dry, bake off, and I was not, but
54:44
they all seem to like it, so maybe I was wrong it was a
54:46
flowerless tort. I would imagine why it looks so dry. Okay, Okay,
54:53
I don't think it was flowerless. Hebe Yeah, okay, and I
54:58
and I know because I videoed it and I shot it on TV and didn't
55:00
have to blur it out. We've left the darlings with a lot of questions,
55:09
a lot it has to be answered. You guys have some homework tonight.
55:15
Tonight, your homework is find out about legally if you can show someone's
55:22
picture. Do you think that rue was it? Was it a ruse about
55:29
the death? And please answering complete sentences? Yes, and we don't speaking
55:35
up and we know whose paper it is. Yes, yes, And if
55:38
you don't put your name on the top, we willed the duck points.
55:44
But definitely get back to us on that legal thing. Yeah, all right,
55:49
Well I guess that does it. That does it for us? Yeah,
55:54
good stuff. But I'm excited tomorrow with Salt Lake City. I mean,
55:57
last week's episode was so epic. I mean it's gonna be a hard,
56:01
a tough act to follow, just like Chef Jack is to Chef Dave.
56:06
You know, yes, yes, and we're still at the Tricksie Motel
56:10
in Palm Springs. That's right. I'm saying the show is not us.
56:17
We should go there sometime. By the way, if you're not subscribe to
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Patreon, you should do that because that's where the Salt Lake City recap will
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be. But that's patreon dot com back slash Drama Darlings. Thanks Emily,
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Thanks you guys for listening of a great Tuesday drama. Darling Drama, Darling
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Drama, Darling