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🚨TRADE!🚨 Instant Reaction to Pirates acquiring Jhostynxon Garcia for Johan Oviedo · Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome back to an emergency episode of
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  Speaker 1: Buco Territory, presented to you by the Foul Territory Network.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Noah Hyles. Alongside me is Platinum keyaka Mark and Mark.
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  Speaker 1: We have our first ever breaking news reaction episode.
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  Speaker 2: The stove is hot. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: The stove is hot. It absolutely is. We were talking about, oh,
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  Speaker 1: will the Pirates make a move during the Winter Meetings?
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  Speaker 1: They waited before, or they didn't even need to wait
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  Speaker 1: until the Winter Meetings. They got going right now. We're
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  Speaker 1: recording this at seven forty five pm Eastern Time, Thursday
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  Speaker 1: evening the Full Trade. The Pirates in the Red Sox
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  Speaker 1: make a deal. Boston gets right hander Joan Oviedo along
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  Speaker 1: with Tyler Samoningo and a Donnis Guzman, and the Pirates
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  Speaker 1: receive jo just Tinson Garcia, the number three prospect in
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  Speaker 1: Boston system, rated number eighty five in all of baseball
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  Speaker 1: by MLB Pipeline, along with Jesus Travisio Trey Viso. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, we're not gonna talk about him anyway on
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  Speaker 1: this show, so we're gonna talk about the two headliners
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  Speaker 1: in this deal. I've got a lot to say on
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  Speaker 1: this mark, but I'm gonna throw it to you first.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, what's your initial reaction when you see Jeff
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  Speaker 1: pass and drop this bomb? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh I When I read any Passing tweet, it's just like,
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  Speaker 2: all right, pirates, pirates. Oh that's Johan Ovieo, that's a pirate.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't have to say pirates. I can usually just
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  Speaker 2: stop me if it's like multi year deal or something.
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  Speaker 2: But this, holy shit, here we go the password. I'm
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  Speaker 2: so excited at twenty two year old outfielder right bet
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  Speaker 2: or ready bet, but has shown some power, lots of
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  Speaker 2: athleticsim athleticism unproven. I'm excited. Let's go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, candidly, this was a guy that and I tweeted this.
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  Speaker 1: This is the type of player people were hoping to
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  Speaker 1: get for Mitch Keller at the trade deadline. There were
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  Speaker 1: some people are saying, oh, you need to trade Keller
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  Speaker 1: for a top one hundred prospect, a guy who's major
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  Speaker 1: league ready, a guy who has five plus years a
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  Speaker 1: team control, a guy who's an outfielder with a plus
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  Speaker 1: bat tool. That's exactly what they just got for Johann Oviedo,
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  Speaker 1: a guy who threw what thirty something innings last year
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  Speaker 1: in the major leagues, and no direspect you on Oviedo.
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  Speaker 1: I thought that he would have been an ideal fit
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  Speaker 1: in this starting rotation. But the Pirates are trading away
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  Speaker 1: some depth here and they get a guy who is
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  Speaker 1: plug and play ready to be a starter, someone who
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  Speaker 1: can play all three outfield positions. I anticipate him probably
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  Speaker 1: being a corner outfielder, maybe left field at least for now,
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  Speaker 1: depending on what else they can get. But let's break
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  Speaker 1: down Justinson Garcia and what he is. He's twenty two
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  Speaker 1: years old. He turned twenty three nets next week. He's
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  Speaker 1: a right handed bat, right handed arm. He measures at
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  Speaker 1: six foot, weighs in at one hundred and sixty three pounds.
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  Speaker 1: Probably need to put some beef on that frame. A
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Hit tool is a forty five grade, that's
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  Speaker 1: the weakest of it, but the power fifty five grade
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  Speaker 1: runs at a fifty grade. Arms sixty grade that's his
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  Speaker 1: highest tool field TOAL fifty, and he's an overall fifty
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  Speaker 1: five grade prospect in those great Those scouting grades are
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  Speaker 1: per MLB Pipeline. He played five MLB games this year,
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  Speaker 1: mark he in Triple A. He played what am I
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  Speaker 1: looking at eighty one games, ye, where he slashed two
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  Speaker 1: seventy one, three thirty four four ninety eight. That's an
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  Speaker 1: eight thirty two ops with twelve doubles and eighteen home runs.
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  Speaker 1: He hit twenty one total home runs in minor league
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  Speaker 1: baseball last year in one hundred and fourteen games. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: And again I'm gonna pass with you here, but again
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  Speaker 1: I want to EMPHASI I think this is a tremendous
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  Speaker 1: deal for the Pirates. This is I think this is
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  Speaker 1: probably the I think this has to be the highest
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  Speaker 1: rated prospect Charrington's acquired in his time as the Pirates
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  Speaker 1: general manager as far as the trades concerned. I don't
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  Speaker 1: recall a lot of top one hundred prospects coming here.
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  Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, people, I encourage you tell me
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  Speaker 1: in the comment section. Yeah, let us know. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: pretty sure this is the highest rated prospect Charrington has
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  Speaker 1: acquired in his time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no one else is coming to mind, But I mean,
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  Speaker 2: Garcia has me so excited. Yeah, just because this is
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  Speaker 2: a guy who could have like twenty to thirty home
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  Speaker 2: run potential. He's twenty two, he has what I think
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  Speaker 2: five games in the majors and yeah, that's it his relgible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so it's a really great fit. It pains me to
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  Speaker 2: see Oviedo go such a fiery guy, like a competitor.
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  Speaker 2: I loved how just like the tenacity showed, like trying
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  Speaker 2: to fight Ronald Acune junior, like or not fight, but
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  Speaker 2: just stand up.
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  Speaker 1: To him and got down from the as.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you would do that with like I think
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  Speaker 2: it was Don Kelly tried to pull him where he
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  Speaker 2: just did not want to come out. I really liked
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  Speaker 2: his just attitude that I saw from a fan standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: So it sucks to see him go, but I'll be
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  Speaker 2: a rooting for him and hopefully Boston does well with him.
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  Speaker 2: But I know I have a really good feeling about
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  Speaker 2: the password.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's for clarity, that is sorry a password,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, let's be cruel. Let's be clear here.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is a far from finished product. He
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  Speaker 1: is a rookie, but this is something the Pirates were
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  Speaker 1: missing last year. A young top one hundred major league
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  Speaker 1: ready bat that is going to potentially provide a spark
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  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 2: Jackson went with upside.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's more than that. Jackson wins was never
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  Speaker 1: a top one hundred rated prospect. This is a guy
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  Speaker 1: that I mean, this is the guy like I said
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  Speaker 1: that they were if they if they had this guy
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  Speaker 1: in their system last year, he would have been on
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  Speaker 1: their opening day roster.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they did it.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is somebody that I mean, I would
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  Speaker 1: imagine will have an impact on twenty twenty six. But
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  Speaker 1: even beyond that, this is they out of the piece
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  Speaker 1: of their future. And we know how good this rotation
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  Speaker 1: can be without Johannobia because we've seen it all year
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  Speaker 1: essentially until he came back up and what would that
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  Speaker 1: have been August? Yeah, So I don't know. I I
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  Speaker 1: think there's I think it's a win win here too.
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  Speaker 1: And I also think it speaks to the depth of
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  Speaker 1: Boston's outfield where they can, oh yeah, trade away a
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  Speaker 1: number three prospect like this because they just have so
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  Speaker 1: many other guys that they're probably another guy they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: deal as well, someone else from that out Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, it would be interesting to
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  Speaker 2: see how this impacts what Boston looks to do with
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  Speaker 2: their other trades. Are they looking for like the same
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  Speaker 2: like level of pitching. Are they still interested in the
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Keller.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and that that's worth asking as well. So we
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  Speaker 1: brought up Boston and how they have a surplus of outfielders.
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  Speaker 1: They just traded one away, probably not the biggest name
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  Speaker 1: out of that group that was expected to get moved right.
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  Speaker 1: The same could be said for the Pirates in their pitching.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, I'll ask you as as we kind of
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  Speaker 1: wrap this show up, Mark, is Mitch Keller safe now
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  Speaker 1: or are they going to trade a second pitcher?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? No, I don't think Mitch Keller is safe at all.
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  Speaker 2: I think you still need more bats. At As much
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  Speaker 2: as I love just Hinson Garcia, he's not a single
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  Speaker 2: fix to this offense that was last in home runs,
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  Speaker 2: last in ops. He has a lot upside and makes
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  Speaker 2: his team way better in the future. But yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: this almost feels like I kind of wish it feels
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  Speaker 2: like Ben Sherrington didn't want to take the big swing
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  Speaker 2: and kind of took the safer option. Maybe if they
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  Speaker 2: were talking to Keller and will you or Bray you
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  Speaker 2: and then they're like, well, you know, we don't want
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  Speaker 2: to trade will you r Brad you, but we give you,
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  Speaker 2: like we settle for Oviedo and Garcia.
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  Speaker 1: I think this tells me that they wanted to take
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  Speaker 1: Keller to the Winter meetings. Okay, yeah, that's what this
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  Speaker 1: tells me. I think that they were like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's make a deal now, because Boston clearly wanted
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  Speaker 1: one of their pictures. And when they they got this offer,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, this is a no brainer. If you could
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  Speaker 1: have get if you could get a top one hundred prospect,
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  Speaker 1: major league ready outfielder for a guy who threw coming
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  Speaker 1: off DJ and who would have been probably what your
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  Speaker 1: number four starter?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah this year, and younger guys from coming up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you still have Hunter Barco in the mix for
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  Speaker 1: the rotation. Yeah, I think this is a great deal.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I also agree. I also agree that uh,
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  Speaker 1: Mitch Keller, I still think will get moved. It just
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  Speaker 1: this this allows them to really be more picky. And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Winter meetings are going to be very interesting.
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  Speaker 2: They're a lot like this is desperate. It seems like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this is at least something that you can put your
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  Speaker 2: head on and say, all right, we have a good base,
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  Speaker 2: let's keep going. So all right, momentum thrilling, here we go.
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