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Scarlet House · Caught on the Mike...

• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Caught on the Mic.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: What do you do when you take heartbreak, survival, loss, and everything life throws at you and you turn it into music?
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: Scarlet House has built a rapidly growing following by doing exactly just that.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_00: From a difficult childhood and a battle with cancer to becoming a one-man musical force with tens of millions of streams.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: His story is as compelling as the music, and now he's about to release Angels, his debut full-length album on August 28th.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: Today we're going back to the beginning and then diving deep into where Scarlet House is headed next.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: How are you doing, my friend?
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: I am doing great.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_01: That was such a nice, nicely worded intro.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm flattered right now.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_00: I I'm not gonna lie to you, the last like 10 episodes of the podcast, everybody says that.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: So it that is a great compliment.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're I heard it from I heard it from John Feldman recently of Goldfinger, and then I had um Stephen Day on this last week, singer-songwriter from Nashville, and he was like, Man, if I was a professional fighter, I would have you announce me walking out to the ring every time.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, yeah, great compliment.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: Confidence, yeah.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's get right into it.
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_00: Before we get into Scarlet House, take me back to the beginning.
• 2:00
  SPEAKER_00: Who was the person who eventually became Scarlet House and what was your relationship with music like growing up?
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, my dad always played music around me when I was a kid.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he listened to a lot of jazz and gospel, and then also some like old RB and hip-hop stuff.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_01: And then eventually I like stumbled upon Pandora, the like you know, the music app.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then I like found Coplay, the fray, and like all these like soft rock bands.
• 2:27
  SPEAKER_01: And then like this was in middle school, so I doubt I like dove into this rabbit hole of just music and discovering it on my own.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I played piano at this time to take the music.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_01: I just like really loved it, and then yeah, fast forward in life, I just kept on music, just kept kind of tugging on me.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: And uh in high school, me and my family kind of went through a rough period in life when we moved to North Carolina.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_01: We were bouncing hotel to hotel, just like living, trying to figure out where exactly to go.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I just found a uh sense of comfort in writing.
• 2:57
  SPEAKER_01: And I didn't know what exactly I wanted to do with it.
• 3:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was just like writing these like terrible raps and they just like putting them in my in my notebook and not touching them again.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_01: But it was like it felt like just seeds throughout life of you know, all of this were just being planted.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then uh yeah, fast forward a few years later in high school, um, life was fine.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I was just recording music, just trying to figure it out.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: And and I graduated, and right as I graduated, I went through cancer, I got diagnosed with stage two lymphoma and went through five rounds of chemo.
• 3:29
  SPEAKER_01: And in this period, I was like very set on music being the thing.
• 3:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I think being that, like walking that line of mortality just like scared the crap out of me that I wouldn't be able to accomplish these like things I've dreamt of all this time.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, so from there I just I got better thank thankfully and just kept on making music.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: And at some point, people started listening somehow.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_00: Thankfully having gone through all of that, what's your relationship with mortality now?
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_00: Because it's something I in in this phase of life myself, I'm constantly kind of thinking about.
• 4:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, honestly, I was very scared to live for a long time.
• 4:11
  SPEAKER_01: I had I had my own bouts of anxiety about life.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was 19 when it happened, so I think it kind of hit me at an early age the thought that I could die.
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: And once I got better, I it was great, but I was scared to do anything because I just thought at any moment life can just happen and everything changes, and it like scared me.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_01: But fast forward to this point in my life, I'm 27.
• 4:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, I've come to terms with that thought.
• 4:36
  SPEAKER_01: I think that life is a gift and it's a beautiful thing.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_01: And when it's taken from me, that's gonna be it.
• 4:41
  SPEAKER_01: But I'm gonna do the most I can during that time.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think that going through that kind of became the catalyst for you to double down on creative endeavors and finding fulfillment through that?
• 4:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, a lot of people use the term YOLO, you only live once, but uh realistically, you only die once, you get the chance to live every single day.
• 5:04
  SPEAKER_00: So was that what really forced you to say, okay, this is what I'm doing?
• 5:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_01: Well, at first, that was really beautiful what you just said.
• 5:12
  SPEAKER_01: You get to die once, but you get to live every day.
• 5:14
  SPEAKER_01: That was that was poetic.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I feel like that definitely did something to my brain that was like, you know, I'm not gonna be here forever.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: And you never know.
• 5:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, yeah, I was saved this one time early in my life, but the story still isn't raining.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_01: You never know when your time's up.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, do what you can while you can't do it.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: And don't get me wrong, there's days where I don't feel like doing anything, and it feels like a lie and all that.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: But like I feel like I always come back to this point that first, first off, anything is possible, and second of all, I want to figure out what that anything is for me while I still can.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: So that's kind of the thing that drives me.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 5:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh as a Midwesterner, you know, I grew up with this whole notion of you're supposed to take this traditional life path.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: You go through high school, you go through college, you get into your career.
• 5:59
  SPEAKER_00: But myself, I pursued music for a long period of time.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: And it, you know, as I had kids and things kind of came into my own hindsight.
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: I frequently have made peace with the whole idea of maybe I didn't take a conventional life path, but I have stories that their friends' parents are never going to have, right?
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because I took the unconventional life path.
• 6:25
  SPEAKER_00: Has that ever crossed your mind?
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_01: Up until kind of recently, I feel like recently I've been like this music thing has kind of set in and it's really working.
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, for a long time, I was like, Am I like doing the right thing?
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I was always scared to waste too much time on it on chasing this thing that I didn't know was possible.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, I feel like I'd much rather have wasted that time doing this instead of wasting the time doing something I don't want to do.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like exactly it makes a lot more sense.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I I kind of I kind of think about that time to time, but I'm I'm I'm stuck in music.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_01: It always calls me back, so I don't got a choice.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_00: Well, when you were kind of describing your musical influences and your musical upbringing, you mentioned jazz, you mentioned RB, hip-hop, you mentioned Cold Play and the fray, and things like that.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_00: I had the pleasure of listening to angels, like I told you, front to back.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean this as the biggest compliment in the world, but that album feels like it could fit in the Deftones catalog.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, are you a Deftones fan?
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's like it's really funny because when I first started off making like Scarlet House music, I was like maybe a year into learning guitar and I was like listening to a lot of new rock, but I hadn't fully found the Deftones catalog yet.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe heard snippets and stuff.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_01: This was back in 2022.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_01: So there it was like right before their buzz was like really like back up, and I didn't know who they were, and I was making stuff, but then once I found who they were, I was like, oh yeah, I I hear what people say because I've kind of been getting that for a while, and uh all that to say I am a fan, but they're not my favorite.
• 8:10
  SPEAKER_00: But I am a fan though.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_00: No, that's that's totally valid because here's the thing about Deft Tones you don't find Deft Tones, Deaf Tones find you, yeah, yeah, you know what I mean?
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_00: And okay, and and the the reason I say that, the reason I say that is I was a naysayer on that band for a long period of time.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't immediately a Deft Tones fan until I found an album that clicked with me, and I was just like, hell yes, I can listen to this.
• 8:37
  SPEAKER_00: I'm messed with this.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: Which album was it for you that clicked Oh my gosh, it's one of their most hated albums, too.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the funny part.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: It was Saturday Night Wrist.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh I was I love that, I personally love that.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: I I agree, but I love that.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: But dude, and and it was weird because you know, I was singing in like you know, Screamo post-hardcore bands for a period of time, and people would be like, You're not a fan of the Deftones?
• 9:02
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, No, they're not my favorite, and then all of a sudden, like I listened to Saturday Night Wrist, and then I became obsessed.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then I next thing I know, I'm listening to like I'm going into the back catalog of Glassjaw and other bands that are kind of adjacent, and I'm like, All right, I get it all now.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: It found me.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I meant.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's such a cool thing, though, like just the resurgence of all this Deft Tones kind of adjacent music, because it's I feel like the special thing about them is I don't sorry, I'm getting sidetracked about Deft Tones right now, but I think the special thing about them is they combine so many different elements of rock and it's a unique thing, but it's almost like its own genre in a way of rock, the way people have kind of spun it and done things.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, all that to say that is a compliment.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_01: I appreciate that.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I I tell you, some of the best bands are like that, right?
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_00: They they become their own genre.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: I I said that recently to Josh from Story of the Year.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: I felt like Story of the Year, they're their own thing.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: Sure, they have elements of different styles of music, but they are their own thing.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: And the nostalgia piece of certain bands' resurgence right now, I attribute a lot to two things.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_00: I think it is the nostalgia one, but I also think it's the internet community and citizen journalism that it has like brought a lot of these bands back into the forefront, which you know, going to your music makes it prime opportunity to put an album like Angels Out right now because it does have such an eclectic mix.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know, you have two songs in particular that really stood out to me, Made for You and Blow Your High, which kind of had more of a ballad-esque feel to them.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I absolutely love the diversity in what you're putting forth, my friend.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's definitely a little nerve-wracking uh because I feel like the project I had before this was uh some mixtape collection of songs kind of thing, of just stuff that I was putting out while figuring this all out.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I was like working a day job and just trying to see what would stick, but at the same time, in turn, it was developing the sound or something that I was going towards.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: So it's interesting to go like make an album now with intention and putting all these different elements and just hoping that it resonates the way that it does with me.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it's scary, but uh, I'm excited.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, was that collection homecoming that you're talking about?
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so that album came out in 2024, or that collection of songs came out in 2024.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Now, two years later, you're releasing a full-length album that does feel cohesive.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like I don't want anybody to take the wrong message from what I'm saying, but it does feel very cohesive.
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_00: The songs feel really interconnected, but when you compare the person who made Homecoming to the person who made Angels, what specifically changed?
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's a that's a great question.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's funny because I feel like these past few years have been probably the most developmental in my life.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, my this one being my music career finally starting to have some sort of movement to it, it's kind of made me reflect inwardly and uh just kind of think about who I wanted to be, like to the world, who I wanted to be to myself.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: And um that's that's a crazy question.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like a lot has changed since then.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think my my outlook on life is a lot different.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, going back to the whole mortality thing, that was kind of a point in life when I was still kind of struggling with that.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: And here I am, it's not a thought in my mind the way it was then.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: That I mean, my relationships in my life, it's a lot of a lot of new things have happened in these past few years, but it's it's all been really good.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: Was there a specific moment when you realized I'm making an album now, not just a collection of songs?
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, after uh after my first real tour, um, it was the homecoming tour, and I got back in that was the it was a rough time in life.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: I was kind of going through a lot mentally and uh due to various things, a relationship that I had gotten out of, and also trying to find my place in life.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: And it was it was just a lot going on, and I was like, okay, I gotta put this all into music right now.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_01: And on top of that, I was also in a in a music deal that I had to fulfill too.
• 13:19
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, now's the time, like I got all these things lining up, I gotta put it all into this.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: And so yeah, that was probably the moment it hit me, and then I just like locked myself in my dad's house for a month and just made stuff.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Well, for those that are listening to this or watching this right now, Angels is 14 songs.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: They move through connection, love, nostalgia, heartbreak, emotional dependency, loss, and ultimately letting go.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: Was there as one central story or relationship or period of your life that became the sole emotional foundation for this record?
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think I'll speak very broadly on it.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there was a good set of years in my life that I was invested into a relationship, and however that went, I had my emotions and all that, and I just put it all into here.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't want to get like too specific about it, but definitely about a certain period of life.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: But at the same time, I also wanted to tell a full story relatable enough to anybody who's gone through any sort of heartbreak.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think the story of love is obviously told over and over again through media, and this is just kind of my take on it, just average love story.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I wouldn't want to classify it or like be presumptuous and say that it's a concept album, but sonically, Angels feels incredibly cinematic.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: You've got the hazy guitars, the shoe gaze atmosphere, grunge influence, and layered vocals, and even some of those modern rap influences that you've talked about.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: When you were making this record, how intentional were you about creating a specific world within the songs for the listener to live in?
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think that didn't really hit me until halfway through.
• 15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I mean the first few songs I made were right, I want to say maybe towards the end of 2024, beginning of 2025.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: I just had started living in LA, and uh so I made some stuff out there and then didn't really work on the album with that in mind.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: And then once I got, like I was saying, got back to my dad's house um after tour, I really locked in on it and started creating what I knew to be this.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, that that's probably when the thought of world winning came in my mind.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: But then I had the privilege of working with a good friend of mine, his name is Brody McKeegan.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: He kind of helped, I sent all my my demos and all the bones to him, and he kind of helped piece it all together sonically.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I gotta credit him a lot.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we talked about the vision and the vibe that I was you know looking for, and we brainstormed and came up with this world together.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny you say cinematic because I was very influenced by uh a lot of movies at that time.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: I was watching a lot of love stories.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: Really?
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, what is it, Eternal Sunshine of the Yeah, Spotless Mind.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's such a you know cliche love movie, but I watched it at the perfect time in life and it hit me.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, yeah.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: So the uh movies are a big part of my life, so that's funny you say that.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, your new single, made for you, feels like one of the most vulnerable moments on the record.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: It starts incredibly intimate and gradually becomes this huge layered emotional release.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: You said, and you've been quoted as saying, This is a very personal song that I will let speak for itself.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: What made that song different enough that you didn't want to explain it?
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was like what you said, I think it was probably the most vulnerable feeling.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're one of the most vulnerable feeling ones, and probably also one of the most specific ones to however I was feeling in that in that time period and my like exact thoughts on paper.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I just feel like the the lyrics they say what I I was feeling.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I I don't know.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, you know, as creatives, we have a really deep relationship with pop culture, and and like you've mentioned, movies, and we talked a little bit about bands and musicians like the Death Tones and stuff.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: What's your relationship with nostalgia and making peace with past versions of yourself like?
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_00: Because it sounds like this album was also very therapeutic for you.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_01: I mean you're asking amazing questions, by the way.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_01: This really makes me think.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um Yeah, I mean, nostalgia has played a big part of my life forever, honestly.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: I've always been a big I don't even know what to call a big nostalgia person.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_01: Find myself in reflection often in life, and it's kind of always been a thing.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even I remember as a kid thinking, or I won't say kid, when I was moving to North Carolina, I feel like that's when it really started because I'd be thinking about Connecticut, where I'm originally from, and those feelings would hit me hard, and then the next season of life would happen, and then I'd find myself looking back to the one before that, and it's it's kind of just been a pattern in my life, and I think for some time it was hard to deal with that because separating nostalgia from wanting the past and appreciating the past is kind of a thin line to walk.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: But to this point in life, I've made that separation, and yeah, I think this was the perfect opportunity to heal some of those opened wounds of nostalgia.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you used a word that I've used a lot, and you were talking about seasons of life, and I'm very keen on that whole concept.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, I was I got my phone here.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: I have to pull up the the terminology that I used.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: I was having a conversation through text with a friend today.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Bear with me, and I was talking about two elements and those two elements are familiarity bias and proximity envy.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: And the whole concept of that is basically an outsider's perception on who you are and who you've become and how they envision you and their interactions with you in the real world.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_00: We kind of have that a similar concept with the relationship that we have with ourselves.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_00: The reason I kind of give this whole psycho babble part of the conversation is I think as creatives, we're also empaths too, you know, and we we kind of absorb the emotions of people around us a lot.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_00: Do you find that in some of your music as well, or is it solely through your own experiences?
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that especially happened with a lot of the earlier Scarlet House things.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I was writing kind of so broadly just about life that I observed.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: It never was necessarily from my own like experiences up until this album, which in itself was kind of hard because I gotten so used to not writing specifically about me and myself.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_01: So trying to put my own thoughts about my own life into words and onto paper eventually into music was kind of hard.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: It was definitely definitely something I used to do a lot more in the beginning, but I think this past album I was just so focused on telling my own story that I've haven't done that too much lately.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_00: So if a person were to sit down on August 28th and listen to angels from start to end, what journey are they supposed to take as a listener?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's that's interesting.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think I've thought too much about that.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like in a weird way, no matter what I want someone to take from it, they're gonna take it how they will.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's I think everybody's so different and everybody's so biased that that's the beautiful thing about music.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: I think whatever lyrics might hit for me that I might want to hit for somebody, it might be the next phrasing or next something that really resonates.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: So if anything, I want them to step away with just having had an experience and in the broadest terms, some form of escape from their own life, and then also maybe tying healing some type of wounds in their own life or something.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just something to walk away with that adds value, maybe.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_00: So tripping that wire of nostalgia and emotional connection through your music, is there a specific song on the album that kind of just sets it off for you more than any other?
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe uh maybe the one called Chemtrose.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: That one I I was so the thought about it was uh I mean, and the term chemtros isn't necessarily a real thing, but you know, the the in the sky, you know, the the planes will leave things.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I thought it was interesting because there's something that's so clear and present, but then they fade over time.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, that's kind of what love feels like.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's just there until it's not.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think that one trips that wire for me a lot.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_00: Is there a song by another artist that does that for you?
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: It's uh Frank Ocean, who's also probably one of my biggest, if not the biggest inspiration in my in my life.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love that.
• 22:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I love it specifically for his songwriting, I think he's amazing.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um but yeah, I think he has a song on the John Mayer album called Wildfire, and that one does that for me because it it also brings me back to his very specific time in life.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um so yeah, that that'd be my pick.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Do you find, you know, given your background and so much diversity in musical taste, do you find your tastes change throughout the year and kind of like have seasons of their own, like your own listening habits?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 23:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's funny because the towards the end of all the album creating um is when I really was listening to a lot of acoustic music, like specifically.
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_01: I had fell on Elliot Smith a few months before that, and I was on a whole rabbit hole of that, and um also a bunch of other acoustic things.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: So I was mainly listening to that and then wrote songs like Blow Your High in that time period, and it ended up working out great in the long term of the album, but I definitely do that.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, same here, same here.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'll start the year listening to one thing, and I'll end the year having gone through like 12 different cycles of different artists or different genres that I'm focusing on.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like right now, as we're getting to the late portion of summer, almost transitioning into fall, I know I'm gonna be listening to a lot of like acoustic music and jazz music.
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I start listening to the piano jazz, like Bill Evans trio and stuff like that, like whenever fall hits.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, right now, of course, I'm listening to summer music.
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like I'm either listening to punk or reggae or stuff along those lines.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_00: And I I think that as musicians, that's just something that we do that people don't really pay attention to, and it influences our creativity as well.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: I I feel like also not only seasons, but uh, this is kind of vague, but I think time of day does it for me too a lot.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's certain things I want to hear in the morning, but then at sunset time, I'm like, you know, this would sound great, like looking at the sunset.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: So I kind of like pair my viewing of the day with the song, too.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_00: Dude, yes.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: I just got back from Denver and I was driving around Denver, and what I would listen to in the morning to get myself hyped up, definitely a lot different what after I'm like at the end of the day, my ears are fatigued.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_00: I'm listening to Andy McKee radio, all the tapping acoustic guitar stuff because I just can't take the craziness anymore.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: And then eventually I turn a podcast on at the end of the day.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's me at the gym, dude.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_00: I don't even listen to music at the gym anymore.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I will listen to music to and from the gym in the car, but when I'm actually working out, that's what I do audiobooks and podcasts.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I have a thing for for video essays, things talking about like movie breakdowns on YouTube.
• 25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, that's my favorite thing.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: So I listen to that when I work out.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_00: That's so funny.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my gosh.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: So you've already done some touring.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: You played Warp Tour in Long Beach, and you're heading back to Warp Tour in Orlando in November.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: You're also playing your hometown album release show in Charlotte the day after Angels comes out, which is awesome.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_00: Does releasing this album feel like the culmination of everything you've been building?
• 26:03
  SPEAKER_00: Is it more feel like the beginning?
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's just starting.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Both, honestly, because it's been a lifelong journey.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: I I spoke earlier, you know, I've been at this for a long time, even when I didn't realize this was what it was building towards music has always been there.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_01: So it definitely feels like a large milestone, which is a little intimidating, but at the same time, I'm walking into it confidently.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then the day after it releases is my birthday, too.
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: So that kind of like feels like a spectacle in my life right now.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm thankful to be able to be in this position and give this project to the world.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Very thankful.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_00: So when you walk onto that Charlotte stage on August 29th, what do you think that you're going to feel?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_01: What am I gonna feel?
• 26:51
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I'd like to say I'm gonna feel great and have no worry in the world, but with it being the first time I'm performing any of these songs, I'm probably gonna have a little nerves.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: But then again, all my family's gonna be there, and I have a very large supportive family and support system here at home.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm excited.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: It'll be a good day.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_00: What are their feelings on where you're at in your career right now, or at least what they've expressed to you?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I shout out to my family.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think I I have I've always been very close with my family.
• 27:22
  SPEAKER_01: We've been through a lot together, and thankfully, I think we've been stronger for that.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I have four sisters, so it's a girl household, and I've got my mom, my dad, and yeah, they're they're all very supportive.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: They've seen that everything happened for me, and they've always been front row at any show that there is in the vicinity of the area and singing the songs back, and even if I've had a bad show, they're there to pick me up and make me feel better about anything going on in life.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: So I owe them a lot for giving me the confidence to go forward and live out my dreams.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's look beyond that.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_00: What do you want Scarlet House to become after Angels is released?
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh that's a good question.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: I want to I want to keep going.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_01: I want to I want to be known in the in the rock world for putting out good quality music and uh hopefully performing at Coachella here in two, three years.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, manifest that, dude.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I have big big goals and aspirations, and I definitely wanna I think Angels was taking a step forward and expanding the musical palette.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I definitely didn't want to scare anybody away, but at the same time, I want to, you know, start moving into all the other veins of rock.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: I I was thankful enough to be thrown into the shoe gaze wave of early TikTok, that that whole thing going on.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I I'll always stay true to the guitar music, but I definitely want to expand and see what else I can do in the rock world.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude, I'm here for it.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_00: When somebody looks back at this particular chapter of your life five to ten years from now, what do you hope they understand about the person that made angels?
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um I hope they understand the the story that I'm trying to convey with it all.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: I I hope that they see that it's coming from a true and uh raw place.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I hope that I hope that shines to the music that it's genuine emotions and genuine words coming out of my mouth.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think that word words and lyrics are my favorite part of it all.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_01: So I want people to feel them and know they're true.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_00: Well, let's give the audience that could be listening to this or watching this at home a pitch.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: They're hearing Scarlet House for the first time because of this conversation.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_00: Tell them why they need to listen to angels from beginning to end.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: Hopefully, I'm pitching to the right person.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: If you're an emotional being and in touch with your feelings or just love stories about life, then that's a great reason to listen to angels.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_01: I think you'll leave having your heart strings tugged.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_00: I love that, man.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I as I told you before we even pressed record, I listened to the record, I loved it.
• 29:59
  SPEAKER_00: Made me feel some things, and that's a great thing.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_00: My closing question for everybody that does the show, and I want to know through your personal experience, because it sounds like you've had a lot of them.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_00: What's your advice on making the world a better place tomorrow than what it is today through your eyes and your experience?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I you know it's so so vague and so cliche, but I think people say it and don't do it enough.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_01: I think love, loving our neighbors, loving each other is the best way to better this world.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think everything stems back to that.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: If we move with love and show love to people around us, I think in turn it makes everybody feel a little bit better about going through life.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I I think we live in a crazy time right now, and the internet is running rampant with negativity.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: And I think if you just show up as yourself and in your community the best way you can, I think that's the best thing you can do.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, ladies and gentlemen, Angels by Scarlet House drops August 28th.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_00: Make sure you check it out as soon as it does.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_00: My friend, tell everybody where they can find you and your music online.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_01: My name is Scarlet House.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: I am on every listening platform, and social media handles is Scarlet House.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: One T in Scarlet.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dude, I almost typed two T's when I sent you the invite invite.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm glad you clarified that.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: I went to Warp Tour and they had my they had my R V and they said Scarlet 2Ts, but it's okay.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: I forgive them because they're warp tour.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: But people do it all the time.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: So I gotta be vocal about one T.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: Well, my friend, as soon as the album drops, you know you've got a friend in me now.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: And anytime you want to come back to do the show, I'd love to have you back on.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: I now consider you a friend.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for being here, man.
• 31:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_00: I appreciate you having me.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much for doing the show.
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: The world's a much better place with you in it.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, man.