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Hydrogen Therapy Is Missing One Critical Piece · Breathe Different: The Brown's Gas Revolution

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  Speaker 1: So hydrogen water bottles, hydrogen tablets, hydrogen inhalers. They are everywhere,
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  Speaker 1: but what if they're all missing one critical piece. Today's
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  Speaker 1: guest believes there's an overlooked component that could completely change
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  Speaker 1: how we think about hydrogen and health. So today we're
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  Speaker 1: asking the questions you're probably already thinking. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show, everyone. Today's guest is George Wiseman. He's the
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  Speaker 1: founder of EGLE Research, inventor, researcher, and someone who has
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  Speaker 1: spent nearly forty years exploring the practical applications of Brown's
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  Speaker 1: gas technology. So George didn't set out to work in health.
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  Speaker 1: He started as an inventor creating technologies for industries like
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  Speaker 1: fuel efficiency and agriculture, But after decades of research and
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  Speaker 1: thousands of conversations with people using his technology, his focus
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  Speaker 1: shifted towards health and wellness. So George, welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: the show. It's so good to see you. Today's topic
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  Speaker 1: stretches my brain a little, so I'm going to ask
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  Speaker 1: you to explain this to us like you're talking to
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  Speaker 1: friends over coffee. So if I don't understand something, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to stop you because chances are the audience is
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  Speaker 1: going to be wondering the same thing. Hydrogen seems to
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  Speaker 1: be everywhere right now. It's becoming one of the biggest
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  Speaker 1: trend trends in the wellness world. So why do you
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  Speaker 1: believe people are still missing an important part of this conversation.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it started back in the nineteen eighty six when
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  Speaker 2: I started working with Browns gas as a fuel slaving
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  Speaker 2: technique for fuel injected engines. And as I developed the
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  Speaker 2: various electoralizers and did the research into all things what
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  Speaker 2: we call browns gas, I discovered that my machines were
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  Speaker 2: making too much gas. Okay, okay, if you look at
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  Speaker 2: the Faraday equations, a certain amount of average is supposed
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  Speaker 2: to make a certain amount of split a certain amount
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  Speaker 2: of water, so it makes a certain amount of hydrogen
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  Speaker 2: and oxygen. And if you take those two gases together
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  Speaker 2: and take the whole volume, there's a certain volume that's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be there at ambient pressures, temperatures and that.
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  Speaker 2: So the but I was making about thirty percent more
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  Speaker 2: gas than the Faraday equations said I should be. So
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  Speaker 2: was this was a real head scratcher. And that's not
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  Speaker 2: why I lost my hair, by the way, Oh and
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  Speaker 2: by the way people, I'm not an invalid. I'm actually
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  Speaker 2: inhaling the Browns gas as we speak, because I am
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  Speaker 2: so convinced of its health aspect, because of all the
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  Speaker 2: things it did for me, that I inhale every opportunity
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  Speaker 2: I can get to get and stay healthy. Not so
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  Speaker 2: it's a preventative, okay, just to get that out of
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  Speaker 2: the air. So people who say, wow, there's an invalid
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  Speaker 2: on the on the screen, No, just the opposite. I'm
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  Speaker 2: stronger now than I was twenty years ago. So we
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  Speaker 2: discovered that our electrolysers were making too much gas. And
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  Speaker 2: this was in the late eighties, and so we didn't
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  Speaker 2: really understand why. I came up with some theories, one
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  Speaker 2: of which I posted or wrote about in my Brown's
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  Speaker 2: Gas Book one. I'm the only person as far as
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  Speaker 2: I know, that has written books about Brown's gas. So
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  Speaker 2: in any case, Brown's Gass Book one had a theory
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  Speaker 2: that that when the water split into hydrogen and oxygen,
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  Speaker 2: it didn't recombine into H two and O two and
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  Speaker 2: it stayed in this molecular state, and that would have
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  Speaker 2: explained the extra volume. Turns out that was not true.
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  Speaker 2: It was they do mostly contract to their H two
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  Speaker 2: and O two, so it's half the volume that it
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  Speaker 2: would be at the other but there is still actually
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  Speaker 2: a minor amount. We've had spectrographic test done of the
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  Speaker 2: gas so they can see all the constituents. There is
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  Speaker 2: still a tiny amount of H and O which aren't
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be there in a in electrolysis, but they are.
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  Speaker 2: So that's one of the things that makes Brown's gas unique.
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  Speaker 2: But as we experimented further in nineteen ninety six, I
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  Speaker 2: discovered I made a transparent electrolyzer, so I could actually
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  Speaker 2: see what was happening inside the machine, and so essentially
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  Speaker 2: something that shocked me. I didn't even quite understand it.
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  Speaker 2: It turns out, and now I'm going to fast forward
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  Speaker 2: to twenty nineteen to explain what was happening back in
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  Speaker 2: twenty or sorry, nineteen ninety six. It turns out, when
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  Speaker 2: you have an anode and a cathode, the anode makes oxygen,
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  Speaker 2: the cathode makes hydrogen, And it turns out there's an
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  Speaker 2: electron bridge that forms between the two of them if
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  Speaker 2: there is no membrane in the middle. Okay, so if
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  Speaker 2: there's a membrane in the middle, it interrupts a bridge,
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  Speaker 2: you'll get pure hydrogen and pure oxygen, and you won't
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  Speaker 2: get this third gas, which we call electrically expanded water. Now,
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  Speaker 2: technically it's a negatively charged cold plasma form of water,
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  Speaker 2: and just for the nerds out there, but we call
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  Speaker 2: it electrically expanded water. So what we saw because of
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  Speaker 2: this electron bridge bridge, water soaking up electrons like a
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  Speaker 2: sponge soaks up water until it.
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  Speaker 1: Be like a steam essentially.
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  Speaker 2: No, see that's the point is not steam. If you
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  Speaker 2: cool it, it doesn't condense into water. It stays as
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  Speaker 2: a gas. So it's a it's water that has extra electrons,
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  Speaker 2: and so it's the plasma state of water. So you've
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  Speaker 2: got your solid which is ice, your your liquid which
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  Speaker 2: we call water, your a vapor which is water vapor
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  Speaker 2: or steam, and then you've got your plasma form of water,
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  Speaker 2: which which is the electrically expanded water. So it's a
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  Speaker 2: it's a cold plasma kind of like the argon and
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  Speaker 2: and that kind of stuff that they use in fluorescent lights.
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  Speaker 2: But the point is that this was making the third gas,
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  Speaker 2: which was which explained why our electrolyzers were getting more
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  Speaker 2: actual volume of gas than theoretically possible. So now we
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  Speaker 2: have our hydrogen near oxygen and the electrically expanded water.
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  Speaker 2: When you combine them together, that makes browns gas. Now
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  Speaker 2: that is different than what's called oxy hydrogen out there,
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  Speaker 2: So browns gas can be named hydroxy or hho those
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  Speaker 2: are other trade names for browns gas. But oxy hydrogen
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  Speaker 2: is where they take two parts hydrogen and one part
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  Speaker 2: oxygen and mix them together and they call that oxyhydrogen.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Brown's gas itself still is two parts hydrogen
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  Speaker 2: to one part oxygen, but the constituents are different. So
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  Speaker 2: instead of just having H two and O two, you've
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  Speaker 2: got your H your H two, your O your O two,
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  Speaker 2: your H two oh as water vapor, and your H
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  Speaker 2: two oh negative as electrically expanded water. So that's why
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  Speaker 2: Brown's gas is different. When you add the whole mixture together,
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  Speaker 2: you're still two parts hydrogen to one part oxygen, but
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  Speaker 2: the way the constituents are made makes all the difference.
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  Speaker 1: So why is that important?
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  Speaker 2: In simple terms, the electrically expanded water is what gives
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  Speaker 2: Brown's gas the about thirty percent more therapeutic efficacy over
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  Speaker 2: just plain hydrogen. So when you've got the plane hydrogen,
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  Speaker 2: that's good that's fine. People should be at least getting
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  Speaker 2: that do what you can to do that. But if
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  Speaker 2: you want the top of the line, what my wife
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  Speaker 2: calls the Tiffany or Dyson of high yrogen for health,
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  Speaker 2: then you get the Browns gas because it has the
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  Speaker 2: electrically expanded water component, and the electrically expanded water does
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  Speaker 2: some additional things that just a straight hydrogen itself can't do.
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  Speaker 2: Straight hydrogen is like a brick. It's inert, it really
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  Speaker 2: does nothing. It combines with other things to get things done.
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  Speaker 2: So like if you have a brick and you want
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  Speaker 2: to make a brick wall, the mason has to grab
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  Speaker 2: the brick, take it over and place it properly in
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  Speaker 2: the brick wall, which requires two additional things, intelligence and energy.
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  Speaker 2: So your body has the intelligence it needs to heal,
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  Speaker 2: but it doesn't necessarily have the energy. And especially people
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  Speaker 2: that are ill, their energy reserves have been used up
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  Speaker 2: and their energy generation systems are often compromised, so they
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  Speaker 2: don't have the energy to heal like they should. So
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  Speaker 2: the Browns gas has the nutrition because we're sixty two
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  Speaker 2: percent hydrogen by volume, twenty four percent oxygen, twelve percent carbon,
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  Speaker 2: and two percent everything else. So sixty two percent is
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  Speaker 2: our macro nutrient, our most important nutrient. Water based lifeforms
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  Speaker 2: can not exist without the hydrogen. So if we're not
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  Speaker 2: getting the hydrogen we need, and most people are not,
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  Speaker 2: then the body starts to shut down. Extraneous systems that
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  Speaker 2: aren't immediately life threatening, like the regeneration system shuts off first,
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  Speaker 2: and then if there's still not of hydrogen, your immune
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  Speaker 2: systems will shut off. And then if you're still don't
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  Speaker 2: have enough, your organs will start to fail and you'll die.
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  Speaker 2: So your body knows how to stay alive. It has
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  Speaker 2: the energy, the intelligence necessary if given the nutrition and
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  Speaker 2: the energy. Brown's gas gives that macronutrient of hydrogen plus
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  Speaker 2: the energy bioavailable electrons, which go directly into the body
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  Speaker 2: and can do things like stop stop oxidative cascade. So
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  Speaker 2: and it helps heal oxidative damage along with the hydrogen.
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  Speaker 2: It stops cytokine storms. It it just everything that is
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  Speaker 2: needed for energy that the making of the ATP and
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  Speaker 2: the mitochroondirea, all these things need electrons. They need energy
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  Speaker 2: as well as the basic nutrition. So the electrically expanded
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  Speaker 2: water does all of that, plus it makes the easy jail.
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  Speaker 2: Do we want to go into that now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just want to confirm, so I'm The way
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  Speaker 1: my brain is thinking about this is that it's like
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  Speaker 1: using premium fuel for the body versus or for the
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  Speaker 1: car versus using bronze like your product. And this Brown's
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  Speaker 1: gas is like premium fuel for the body, and so
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  Speaker 1: it's helping the engines in our body stay clean and
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  Speaker 1: running at its best versus running but not at its best.
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  Speaker 1: So when it's when we're not at our best and
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  Speaker 1: we're not using high quality products, we may feel better,
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  Speaker 1: but we're still not feeling our best. So our body
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  Speaker 1: is still functioning, but not as it could be with
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  Speaker 1: the right support. Am I am? I right?
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  Speaker 2: If you're in the ballpark, if you look at it
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  Speaker 2: from an automotive standpoint, what I was doing with Brown's
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  Speaker 2: gas originally, and this is one reason why it helps
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  Speaker 2: in the body as well. When you put a small
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  Speaker 2: amount of brown gas in with the air that's sucked
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  Speaker 2: into the engine, that little bit of browns gas acts
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  Speaker 2: like a catalyst to help the hydrocarbons break apart into
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  Speaker 2: their constituent atoms of carbon hydrogen, which then they can
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  Speaker 2: recombine into with oxygen into water H two and carbon dioxide.
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  Speaker 2: So that is what happens in the engine and what
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  Speaker 2: the but it takes energy to break apart. It is
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  Speaker 2: what's called atomic bonds the hydrogen and carbon out of
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  Speaker 2: the hydrocarbon fuel, and that certain amount of energy they
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  Speaker 2: call it endothermic energy is required before the fuel can
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  Speaker 2: even combust, So the energy has to be input. If
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  Speaker 2: you put browns gas into the mixture, it lowers the
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  Speaker 2: amount of energy. It acts like a catalyst. It lowers
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  Speaker 2: the amount of energy necessary to break apart those bonds.
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  Speaker 2: So suddenly, and I should say the exothermic energy of
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  Speaker 2: recombining into water and carbon dioxide, you have heat left over.
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  Speaker 2: So if it takes less energy to break apart the bond,
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  Speaker 2: you have more energy left over because you didn't have
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  Speaker 2: to use a portion of that energy to go back
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  Speaker 2: into breaking more bonds in more fuel to propagate the flame.
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  Speaker 2: So that same thing happens in our body when we
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  Speaker 2: get that browns gas, all this electrically expanded water, and
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  Speaker 2: like extra electrons, it takes less energy to have your
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  Speaker 2: energy to make make the body work. I hope I
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  Speaker 2: explained that well, But the yeah, but your concept of
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  Speaker 2: this is a higher quality fuel or nutrition than just
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  Speaker 2: the basic that that people can get out there is
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  Speaker 2: one percent correct.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's what I mean. Is like even this morning
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  Speaker 1: before when I was prepping for show, I was I
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  Speaker 1: went online and of course now that I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: these products, I'm seeing them everywhere. But there was a
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  Speaker 1: new product released and it wasn't It was cheap, let's
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  Speaker 1: just say it. And it just made me question, you know,
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  Speaker 1: people are buying these cheap products that are claiming to
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  Speaker 1: be hydrogen water bottles or hydrogen machines. They're not working properly,
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  Speaker 1: so people aren't seeing the benefits, and then they're just
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  Speaker 1: dismissing the fact that it's even benefiting. It can benefit
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  Speaker 1: someone's health. So I think getting out the correct science
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  Speaker 1: and information is so important so that people aren't you know,
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  Speaker 1: buying these products and saying, oh, they don't work at all,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm not going to try this one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good point. Technology tends to lead
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  Speaker 2: laws and responsibilities and stuff, and so what happens like
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  Speaker 2: even when the Internet was coming out there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: people things would jump ahead and we're getting things done
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  Speaker 2: that weren't good in this particular case, I've been working
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  Speaker 2: with Browns Gas for Health since about nineteen ninety six.
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  Speaker 2: My customers dragged me into it because that isn't where
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  Speaker 2: I was originally, but they were experimenting with my machines
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  Speaker 2: at which which weren't like it was. They were just
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  Speaker 2: doing it on their own. There was no encouragement for myself,
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  Speaker 2: and they convinced me eventually to get into it, to
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  Speaker 2: test it myself and then develop this whole genre. So
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  Speaker 2: back in two thousand and seven, for example, there was
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  Speaker 2: a study that was done that proved that the pH high,
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  Speaker 2: the alkaline high pH water was it was healthy, but
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  Speaker 2: not for the reason that they thought it was. It
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  Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the pH because what was
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  Speaker 2: happening is, for forty years before that, something called flow
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  Speaker 2: through electrolyizers were showing the high pH water coming out
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  Speaker 2: to be healthier, and it was, but the study took
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  Speaker 2: away the pH and left the hydrogen because as an
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  Speaker 2: electrolyzer they were putting hydrogen out with what's the high
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  Speaker 2: pH water and oxygen out with the low phwater. So
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  Speaker 2: the oxygen was great for cleaning things and stuff, but
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  Speaker 2: the oxidation but the but the health benefits were with
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  Speaker 2: the high pH water. Well, it turns out when they
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  Speaker 2: took away the pH, the health benefits were maintained. They
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  Speaker 2: took away the hydrogen and the health benefits and left
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  Speaker 2: the pH, the health benefice disappeared. It was always about
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  Speaker 2: the hydrogen. It was never about the pH. And so
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  Speaker 2: that explains why a lot of scientists were saying, we
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  Speaker 2: don't understand why higher pH water would would be healthy.
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  Speaker 2: We can see in the experiments that your experiments that
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  Speaker 2: it is. But when they and so then then there
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  Speaker 2: became a big fad for high pH water. But it
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  Speaker 2: was water that hadn't gone through an.
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  Speaker 1: Electrozer water everywhere like buying.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly, but it but it didn't increase the people's
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  Speaker 2: health like the like the flow through ionizer high pH
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  Speaker 2: water did because it didn't have the hydrogen in it.
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  Speaker 2: So now, exactly so we're getting a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: sort of thing out there now with the with the
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  Speaker 2: me toos that are jumping on the bandwagon and making
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  Speaker 2: all these varieties of hydrogen things. There's hydrogen tablets, some
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  Speaker 2: of which are really not good for you because they
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  Speaker 2: used the wrong kinds of magnesium and stuff that actually
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  Speaker 2: ends up being a poison. So you there's just a
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  Speaker 2: lot of you got to take care and learn and
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  Speaker 2: do some education out there because these various hydrogen modalities
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  Speaker 2: can be dangerous in various and one of the biggest
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  Speaker 2: dangers out there is the hydrogen that are say more
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  Speaker 2: is better. When you see that, run do not walk
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  Speaker 2: run from anybody who was saying more is better, because
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  Speaker 2: more is not only wasteful, it's dangerous. And I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you a quick understanding why I came into the hydrogen
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  Speaker 2: for health from a combustion as a combustion expert. I
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  Speaker 2: have a blasting certification from when I worked in the Minds.
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  Speaker 2: I worked with internal combustion engines to make the more
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  Speaker 2: efficient using the Browns gas and such. I am a
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  Speaker 2: combustion expert, and the biggest explosions I ever heard, even
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  Speaker 2: though I used to blow mountains apart for a living,
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  Speaker 2: was the Browns gas explosions that I was doing in
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  Speaker 2: my own shop. So take care, be careful. Now, it
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  Speaker 2: turns out, and for many many years I advise people
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  Speaker 2: not to inhale the gas because I didn't want people
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  Speaker 2: inhaling a potentially combustible mixture. Well, it turns out that
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  Speaker 2: I was wrong to advise that. What I should have
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  Speaker 2: been advising is what I advise now is don't inhale
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  Speaker 2: a combustible mixture. You can inhale the hydrogen, whether it's
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  Speaker 2: browns gas or the regular hydrogen, but don't inhale it
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  Speaker 2: at a percentage greater than two percent hydrogen in your
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  Speaker 2: inhaled breath, which is what I'm doing here. So if
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  Speaker 2: you inhale at two percent, it's not combustible. Anything over
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  Speaker 2: four point seven percent is combustible. And I'll give example
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  Speaker 2: and just a quick example why. And as I explained
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  Speaker 2: was going on, Okay, I have all these thoughts going
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  Speaker 2: in my head, so I have to organize them and
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  Speaker 2: come out in it in a logical fashion. So if
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  Speaker 2: you two percent has been shown in scientific studies. There's
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  Speaker 2: been hundreds of them for inhalation, thousands of hydrogen for
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  Speaker 2: health studies when you include the water, hydrogen rich water
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. So they've shown that two percent in the
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  Speaker 2: inhaled breath is the optimal therapeutic benefit. If you go
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  Speaker 2: up to three percent, you get no additional benefit. The
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  Speaker 2: reason being when your blood is saturated, it absorbs no
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  Speaker 2: more extra hydrogen. It's just like the excess carbon dioxide.
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  Speaker 2: You exhale any excess, So if you have two percent
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  Speaker 2: going in and your blood is now saturated, it only
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  Speaker 2: takes about one percent to keep your blood saturated. So
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  Speaker 2: you have one percent coming out combining with the two
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  Speaker 2: percent that's coming in, and you have three percent in
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  Speaker 2: your exhaled breath. That's fine. We're still well unto the
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  Speaker 2: four point seven percent limit. But let's say you go
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  Speaker 2: to three percent inhalation as to two percent. Now you
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  Speaker 2: have two percent coming out with three percent coming in,
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  Speaker 2: and you now have five percent in your exhaled breath.
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  Speaker 2: That is over the lower combustible limit of hydrogen. So
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  Speaker 2: anything over two percent starts to become dangerous. Now we
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  Speaker 2: had a guy, for example, there have been many explosions,
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  Speaker 2: and this particular guy took an advice of a knockoff
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  Speaker 2: that looks like an aquickure one of our machines, but
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't have the ability to adjust the gas volume
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  Speaker 2: coming from the machine to optimize for the person's size.
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  Speaker 2: So what they're doing is one hund percent gas production
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  Speaker 2: all the time, and if it doesn't explode, that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: but you're not getting any additional benefit from that. More
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  Speaker 2: is not better. We'll get to that in more than
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  Speaker 2: just a second. Okay. So they convinced one of my
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  Speaker 2: aquacure customers to go from thirty percent gas production instead
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  Speaker 2: of one hundred percent. He's doing thirty percent for his
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: safe two percent, and then he's he increased it. They
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: wanted him to go to one hundred percent, but he
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: increased it just as sixty percent, so double what it
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: was at the two percent. So he's inhaling at four percent.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Three percent is coming out because he only needs one
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: percent to maintain the blood saturation. Combined with the four
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: percent that is going in, that's now seven percent in
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: his exhaled breath. He coincidentally, not deliberately, just leaned over
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: a candle flame as he was reaching for something as
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: he exhaled, and the explosion went up into his sinuses
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: and caused him to have a bloody nose, and they
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: took him to the hospital thinking that he had a concussion.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Because I'm telling you, those explosions are nothing, nothing to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: sneer at. Brown's gas explosion is it just goes bang,
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: is about five thousand feet per second, and it makes
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a heck of a shockwave. He was okay, but but
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: seriously shook up and he's still inhaling. But it's but
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: at thirty percent now instead of sixty percent that he
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: inadvertently had decided he tried, he tried more is better
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: type thing. Okay, what it turns out is that longer
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: is better. They've been They have many studies out there
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: now that are showing that if you can keep your
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: blood saturated for eight hours a day plus, you can't
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: mitigate the worst diseases that are out there. Like we
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: had a woman named jay Lee who had a stage
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: four cancer that and and the doctor gave her two
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: weeks to live if she didn't take the chemo and
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: radiation and radical surgery that they were doing. It. It
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: was a breast cancer that had metastasized through the thorax
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: to the spine and it was growing spine cancer as well,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: so it was it was a terrible, terrible diagnosis. And
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: she said no, she didn't want to do the chemo
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: and radiation and radical surgery. And the doctor said, well,
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you might as well go to the top of this
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: ten story building and jump off, because you just have
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: two weeks to live. Like this is the kind of
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: advice that doctors are giving out there. They they scare
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: people into going all of this stuff. Anyway, she was
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: brave like I have hardly ever seen. I'm not even
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: sure I could have been that brave, and and she
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: said no, and she did went to a total healthful lifestyle.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: If you go to her Instagram at jay Lee, it's
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: absolutely astonishing what she discovered, all the toxins in the
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: environment that she was in, and the only mitigation she
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: did was the Browns gas machine, the aquacare And one
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: year later, one year almost to the day, she had
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: a report in her hand saying that she was one
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: hundred percent cancer free. So stage four two weeks to
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: live to one hundred percent cancer free. We have many
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: testimonials like that. Results will vary, and I'm not an MD.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I even know, like that's that's an amazing case,
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: and that's wow phenomenal. I know so many people these
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: days are struggling with the autoimmune type diseases or autoimmune
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: type responses and they're not knowing where it's coming from.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Do you have any cases where people have been helped
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: that have autoimmune type diseases?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: I do, and that is kind of a painful subject
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: for me. Because my late wife died of lupus, a
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: very severe form of lupus and autoimmune disease, and I
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: didn't know. Even though I had Browns gas in my
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: shop since nineteen eighty six, I didn't know before she
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: died that it could have cured her. We did have
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: testimonials with people from with all different kinds of autoimmune diseases,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: but in this case, I'm focusing on that lupus who
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: her loopus symptoms were gone in three weeks time. We
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: had my wife, and I had struggled with her lupus
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: for half a decade, with her organs gradually failing. She'd
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: lost her eyesight, she'd lost her hair. She couldn't even
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: roll over in bed without assistance. I had to carry
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: her to the toilet. She never had to wear diapers.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I was always there, never away from her side for
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: more than twenty or thirty minutes at a time. And
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: it was a financial devastation as well, because by the
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: time she died, we were three hundred thousand dollars in debt.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Trying to do anything we could. We mortgaged our homes,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we maxed out credit cards, we did anything we could
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: to try to pay for the various therapies because we
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: didn't know what we were fighting and none of the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: therapies worked. So it was a terrible time in my life.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: So autoimmune diseases, Yes, it helps, and I'm trying to
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: help as many people as possible not go through that
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: pain and suffering and financial destitution that we went through.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And in the episode where we went into detail on
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: that story, I mean, my conclusion is if she wouldn't
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: have passed away, I truly do not believe you would
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: be where you are today with the success you've had
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: with that product, because it pushed you to your limit,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: because you wouldn't have tried it yourself if she wouldn't
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: have away. So this is so dedicated to her. I'm
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: going to give her a little prayer up there. That's phenomenal.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like everything happened us as it needed to,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: as painful as that was, but look at what's going
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: on now with your products.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hate that that's true, but it is. Yeah,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: And she would be happy that I've done this, for sure.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: She was that kind of woman. So she's happy now
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: where she is and she doesn't be going through the
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: suffering that she did. I got a message from her
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: in it in a way that showed she was dancing.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: She loved to dance, and she helped me in various
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: ways after she passed. I have stories of that as well,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: so I know that people can communicate from the other side,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: and she's she's in good shape and she's happy.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: That's phenomenal. I would love to talk a little bit
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: about the oxidative stress because most people have heard that phrase,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: but many people don't really know what that means. Can
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: you explain what that means in a way that everyone
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: can maybe understand. And thanks for sharing that about your wife,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: your late wife. I know it's difficult to talk about
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: but really impactful, So thank you for being so brave.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: You're welcome. If I can help other people with her story,
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I certainly appreciate it. Oxidative oxidation is simply burning. It's
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: short and swimple simple. If you're burning a piece of wood,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: you're oxidizing it. When you have oxidation happening in your body,
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: it is literally burning inside your body. Now, we need
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: oxygen to burn with hydrogen and stuff to make energy
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: for our body to work, but we have to control
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: the oxidation in our body. There's all kinds of systems
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: in our body that control the oxidation if we need it,
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: but we need to control it. If it's not controlled,
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: then we get radicals that are damaging to our body.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: When I talked about oxidative cascade for example, that means
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: there's something that doesn't have an electron on that it
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: needs and it grabs another. It grabs an electron from
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: something else. So now that something else doesn't have an
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: electron and that's oxidation. Okay, when you're when you're moving
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: these electrons around, so they.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: So where do they come from? Like, how would we
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: receive it?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: The oxidation?
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, where would the oxygen stress come from?
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: A myriad of sources. There's if you if you look
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: online and look for oxidative stress, you'll see that there's
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: all kinds of chemical Well, just first of all, the
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: air itself as oxygen in it, and when you inhale it,
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: if you're if your systems in your body aren't regulating
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: the oxygen properly, then you're going to get oxidative damage.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: But then there's all different kinds of chemicals in our
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: environment that are causing oxidative damage and stress and and
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: all of that. So it just comes from so many sources.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: It's hard for me to even picking me out.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: So basically when we're breathing, just living and breathing, but
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: if we don't process it properly, then it can really
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: harm our body.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: In the normal sense. But really, there are so many
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: different kinds of chemicals and stuff that are in our
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: environment as well that accent accent, this effect, this oxidative stress.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: Even radiation. Now, the sun is good for you and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: it has good radiation, but there's a lot of radiation
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: around us, Like even these earbuds that I put in
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: my ears and stuff, these they are doing a lot
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: of radiation, our Wi Fi around us, all these kind
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: of things. When that radiates into you, it causes it
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: burning oxidative stress. One of the things that happens with
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: the Browns gas is it mitigates radiation damage. For example,
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I had my blood tested after I had a four
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: hour plane ride at thirty thousand feet and when I
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: got off the plane and had my blood tested, incidentally,
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: the woman couldn't believe I had just been in an
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: airplane for four hours because they can see the oxidative stress,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the radiation damage in the blood from even that short
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: of a time at thirty thousand feet, so this is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: and I didn't have any. So the browns guests not
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: only helps prevent radiation damage, but it helps heal radiation damage,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: and radiation damage is one of those oxidative things that
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: we're talking about.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Wow, that's phenomenal. I think it's important that we asked this.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: So how much of what you're explaining comes from scientific
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: research and how much of it comes from your own
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: decades of observation and interpretation.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: I'd say fifty to fifty. I believe that I'm one
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: of the foremost authorities of browns gas in the world,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: having been researching it pretty much exclusively for almost forty years,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and I spent millions of dollars on that research and
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: tens of thousands of my own man hours plus hours
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: that we've hired people to do various things, and all
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: the other stuff is out there, So definitely I've done
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: my own due diligence personally. And then, of course there
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: since two thousand and seven, after that study, that pH
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: study we had, then the scientific industry started to look
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: at all of this hydrogen for health, and there are
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: now thousands of studies out there and growing faster more
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: every day of how hydrogen benefits the health.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit about that research.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: So you reference a study from two thousand and seven
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: involving alkaline ionized water. Why was that study such a
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: turning point for you?
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: It wasn't a turning point for me because I didn't
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: even know about it until years later. But it was
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: a turning point for the technology because that's when because
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: by two thousand and seven, I was already using hydrogen
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: for health, and my customers were already using it, so
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: they didn't need the study to know that. But later,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: when the science showed that it was the hydrogen instead
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: of the pH then the other scientists got on board,
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: so that particular study was there. I'd like to go
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: a little bit more into the easy Jael and why
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: that's important.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So Professor Gerald Pollack Pollack and his work on easy water.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: So let's talk about easy water or easy gel and
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: what is it and why has it become so important?
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, Okay, So easy easy water is a
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: misnomer because it's actually easy gel. But if you look
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: for the book The Fourth State of Water, that's one
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: of the first books that Joe Pollock wrote, and he's
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: a professor at the University of Washington, about this effect
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: that he discovered and what it is is when pure
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: water H two oh means a hydrophilic, hydrophilic means water
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: loving surface, it forms a gel. Now, he was calling
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: that the four state of water because at the time
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: that they saw it, it was just a transparent exclusion zone.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: So he was working with microspheres in water and he
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: noticed that there was a zone on the surface that
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the microspheres were excluded from. So that's where easy or
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: exclusion zone water came about. So we're calling it easy gel.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And the because it's it's actual chemical formulation is H
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: three negative H three O two negative, so it's not
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: H two oh. And incidentally, the actual four state of
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: water is H two negative, which is the electrically expanded
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: water that we produce with the Browns gas. So get
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: but we'll get back to that in a second. So
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the easy gel solves three medical mysteries, which are very
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: important medical mysteries. If we're looking at our body. First
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of all, the heart does not produce enough pressure to
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: push blood through all the thousands of miles of capillaries
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: in our body. Number two, our red blood cells are
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: twice the size of a capillary, so why don't they
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: just plug it up like a cork? And number three,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: why does the blood flow evenly to all the extremities
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: of our body, from the tip of my pointy head,
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: the tips of my fingers to the tips of my toes,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: for example. So those three medical mysteries are all resolved
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: with this easy gel, the easy So this is like
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the discovery of fire as far as health is concerned.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: This changes everything. So the easy gel, first of all,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: is negatively charged and it attaches to all hydrophilic surfaces,
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: so everything in our body is hydrophilic. So the red
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: blood cells have easy gel on the outside of them,
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: and the capillaries have easy gel on the inside of them.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: So therefore, because first of all, jel is slippery to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: start with, and it's negatively charged, and like charges repel
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: each other, the red blood cells can squeeze into a
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: sausage shape and go through the capillaries with virtually zero resistance,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: very little resistance. So that's why they don't plug it
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: up like a cork. Well, it turns out that Professor
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Pollock discovered lab discovered a second thing, by accident. And
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: this was really exciting. Is that when you have a
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: tube that's small enough to be a capillary and it
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: has this easy gel on the inside of it, it
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: will spontaneously start to flow fluid with no pump. Therefore,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the heart does not have to pump the blood through
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: all the thousands of miles of the capillaries. It only
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: has to get the blood to the capillaries. So therefore
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: create a bias so that the blood flows in one
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: direction or not the other direction. Okay, because the capillary
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: didn't know which way for it to flow, he needed
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: that bias, and now the capillaries actually do the pumping.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: So that's why the blood can flow evenly to every
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: part of your body and why the heart doesn't have
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to produce that much pressure. So all water based life
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: all water based life forms require this capillary action. It's
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: why trees can grow to one hundred and fifty feet
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: high and still draw water from their roots all the
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: way up to the leaves. The evaporation of moisture from
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: the leaves creates the bias, so the tree doesn't have
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a heart, right, but it still gets the water pumped
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: up to its leaves, and so and there were other
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: advantages of the easy gel as well, where you can
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: make water batteries and all kinds of things that he
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: discovered if you read Geral Pollock's books. But the biological
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: function was extremely important for this reason, not only the
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: once I just explained, but now we bring brownscas in.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: So in twenty nineteen at a water conference I was
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: speaking in bad Soda in Germany. Professor Pollock was in
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: the first and during the question answer period he stood
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: up and said, George, I know when you have a
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: hammer everything looks like a nail, but can you tell
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: me what brown's gas does when it's applied to the
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: easy gel? And I said, I don't know, let's find out.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: So over the pandemic time I worked with the University
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: of Washington to discover what actually happens. Turns out when
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you have when you put oxygen in the hide with
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: the easy gel, it doesn't make any difference to the easygel,
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: very little difference at all. When you put hydrogen in,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: it makes very little difference. When you put brownscas in,
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: it expanded a minimum of three hundred percent three times,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: so that browns gas vastly accelerates or enhances this formation
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: of this easy gel, which is absolutely essential to life.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: And it turns out that's what pumps up all the
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: cells in our body as well. It's the gel that's
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: in our cells. So that's why I don't have my
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: crows feet, the big crows feet and wrinkles in everything
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: that I used to have. My skin actually looks younger
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: now than it did then twenty years ago. So this
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: is why the Browns gas it works. One of the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: reasons it works better than the pure hydrogen because pure
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: hydrogen doesn't enhance this easy jel like the Browns guest does.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Wow. Well, one thing I love about our conversations is
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: it reminds us how much we still don't know about
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the human body and how science is always evolving. So
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: would you say you're still in the early chapters of
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: understanding hydrogen.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: That's a really good question, because not so long ago.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: Just a quick example, the patent person around the turn
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: of the nineteen hundreds in the patent office, the head
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: of the patent office, I forget his name right now,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I think it was duval or something, said we might
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: as well shut down the patent office because everything that
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: can be invented has been invented. Could you imagine where
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: we'd be if we're still working with the technology in
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: the eighteen hundreds. So, in any case, Katie, the same
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: things we're done. It has been happening with water. People
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: thought the scientists thought they understood water very well. Turns
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: out there's a lot of things about water that we
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: do not understand, for example, the memory of water. There's
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: been a lot of people out there working on memory
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: and frequencies and such, and that's one of the things
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that the Equacure can do that a lot of the
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: other machines out there don't do. Is we can impress
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: a frequency on the gas, which has already been shown
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: to increase the efficacy of the gas because our entire
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: beings are we are frequency beings. Everything in us is
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: vibrating at certain frequencies and if you want to enhance
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: something or take away from something, then you just change
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the frequency and you can and that affects what's going on.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: So in addition to the other things we're doing, we
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: added that feature as well. I'm not a frequency for
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: health expert. There are ones that are out there, and
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: I direct people to them on the Internet so they
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: can choose the frequency that'll work best for their particular ailment.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: But right now I'm inhaling at five twenty eight, which
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: is a freakquency of health and love. And there's another
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: general frequency of health which is four thirty two, and
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: that's where we send our machines out. Already said it
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: four thirty two, but people can vary that as well.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: So the memory of water, and then we hadn't even
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: gotten into the transmutation of water. Because once you have
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: new water, which is what happens when you make browns
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: gas and you burn it, you collect the steam and
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: condense it, that's new water that doesn't have any steam
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: in it, or sorry, any deterium in it, or any
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: memory in it. It's h two ozl period but no
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: other memory. And if you expose that water to various elements,
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: then elements will start to form in the water. The
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: water itself will transmute into those various elements. Is absolutely
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: astonishing the various things that are happening out there with
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the water technology that is, I have no idea where
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it's going to go. But what happens if you can
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: simply take water and make gold, or you can make
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: your medicine, or you can make your fuel. This is
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: probably one of the ways that Jesus made water into wine,
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: because right, it's already set up to do that. God,
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: God did all.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, now we're just figuring it out. That's why
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: we're been put here to figure it out. For sure.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: I even know that. I mean, I've done studies with plants.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: I know this is a little bit different. But I
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: know people who talk to their water in a positive
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: way versus a negative way, and it changes the way
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: the water is. And I tried that with my plants,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and no word to Alye. My plant is thriving, the
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: one that I talk to really nicely and every morning
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: say good morning to it, and I say how beautiful
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it is, and that I love it. It is thriving,
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: versus the one that I talk not so nicely too,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: it is not doing so well. And I just find
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: that so interesting. How much of our outward world is
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: reflected on how we're doing and reacting and speaking. And
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I mean that's a whole other topic.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Yes, you definitely get back what you vibrate out because
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: you're resonate with that, so it collects it. So if
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you're being very negative you're going to have a very
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: negative life if you decide you're going to be positive.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Because that's one thing that we can choose. God gave
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: us the choice. We can choose how we react to something.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: We can have something that's very bad happened to us,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: but we can choose how we react, and that will
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: affect the outcome, the ultimate outcome of what's going on.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: You're absolutely correct. There's a book out there called The
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Secret Life of Plants. I think you've read it. You
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: must have been in order to do these experiments or
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: something the similar, and one of the most memorable things.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of things in that play in
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: that book where plants can feel emotions and stuff from us,
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: and so people can become very attached to their plants.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: And it turned out that this one particular man who
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: was attached to his plant, when he had an orgasm elsewhere,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: his plant reacted. So it was a thing, yes, yes,
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: so it was telepathically linked to him wherever he was
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: in the world. And what I thought to myself at
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: the time was, Okay, all his wife has to do
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: is watch the machines that are monitoring his plant, and
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: he'll know she'll know if he's being faithful.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It's hilarious. That's absolutely insane, and my mind is just
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: going in a million directions right now, like there's so
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: much unknown out there.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely yeah.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: So George, if someone is looking at hydrogen products today,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: what questions should they be asking before buying anything? And
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I'd love for you to tell us more about your machines.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, First of all, you have to look at the
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: actual business itself. What does it do for its warranty,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: manufactures warranty, what does it do for satisfaction guarantee? The
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: people who are out there for you, generally speaking, have
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: a very long satisfaction guarantee. There were for example, we
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: have a one year satisfaction guarantee, and we do that
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: because we're more concerned with the people than we are
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: with the money that they get. So you have to
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: look for companies that are more interested in your health
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: than your wealth, okay, or their wealth, as the case
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: may be. So just look at that. Look at the
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: return policies, like there's ones that will only accept a
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: return if you send it back originally unopened in the
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: original box, for example. Those are the people that once
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: they have your money, thank you very much, they're gone.
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: So and then there's people out there that are saying
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: the more is better Again, they aren't interested in you
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: as a human being because they know dang well that
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: more is not better. They know it's not more efficacious,
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: and they know it's dangerous. They know it. These big companies,
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: I've seen them put out studies, for example, and I
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: evaluate the study and I see the places where they've
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: manipulated the data to prevent people from knowing that their
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: product is dangerous, potentially dangerous. Now, quite frankly, you could
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: replace nitrogen in air with hydrogen and inhale hydrogen oxygen
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: mixture and you would actually be healthier than the nitrogen
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: oxygen mixture that we're inhaling right now. But that is
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: a bomb. So just keep it at the two percent
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: hydrogen soaking into the blood and you're better off. Okay.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: So the other thing is, in addition to optimizing your
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: safety and efficacy, which our machines do, there's the functionality
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: with our machine we're making. You can inhale the gas,
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: you can apply the gas topically. We have special goggles
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: so people could treat their eyes. We have spot applicators.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: There's a leg and arm bags that people can get,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: although even just a bread bag will work. So you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: can inhale, or you can topically apply, or you can
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: with you could do drink the hydrogen rich water. So
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: our machine makes the hydrogen rich water as well as
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the inhalation. In fact, it does it at the same time,
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: so it saves people time and you can apply the
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: water directly to your skin as well topically. Quick note
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: that when you inhale or ingest, your body decides what
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: gets healed, and if you are applying topically, you decide
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: what's gets healed. So if you have arthritis like I
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: used to have, and you put the little glove on
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: and you put the hydrogen and the browns gas in there,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: you will be directly applying that gas to the arthritis.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: But if I inhale, and that's what I was doing,
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: so it took months for my arthritists to go away
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: because my body directed the hydrogen and energy to different
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: places that it thought it was more important to get
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: addressed first. So we do all of that. We've been
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: in business since nineteen eighty four, Eagle Research has We've
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: been having serving customers since then, hundreds of thousands of
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: customers so another thing to look for is how long
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the people have been in business. Are they just a
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: me too, just jumping on the bandwagon, or do they
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: have the history of really knowing what they're doing behind them?
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: And then of course a lot of people just copycat
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: people like me to borrow the authority or knowledge. But
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: as we've upgraded over time, you could see the progression
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of how we've made our machines better and better and better.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And we just recently put out our AC sixty, which
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: is our most recent and upgraded design of Equick here
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: to help people. It actually produces the same browns, gas
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: and everything. It just became a lot easier to use,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: therefore more therapeutically beneficial in that people are more likely
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: to do the proper maintenance on it and stuff over
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the AC fifty that we were selling and has been
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: working very well out there.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: How long does one of your machines last?
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Good question. We design them to last for a minimum
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: of twenty years, which is one reason we can have
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: a lifetime manufacturer warranty. We have customers out there that
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: have reported sent back pictures of their hour meter with
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: over twenty thousand hours on them already. So yeah, and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: of course I've inhaled at much more than that, because
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I inhale for an average of eight hours a day
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: since every day since March of twenty sixteen. So you
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: can add up the hour that I've been inhaling, and
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: I can say that our machines just they just keep working.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: I when back when I was a child, I considered
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: myself to be lazy because on the ranch, I didn't
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: like to fix things more than once. So I would
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I would figure out why it broke, and I would
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: fix it so that it wouldn't break again. And we
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: put that kind of philosophy into our machines. They are
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: meant to be purchased once and used for a lifetime,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: for not only yourself, but your family and friends and
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: neighbors and anybody else you can help.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Amazing. Well, thank you so much for being on
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: the show today and for unpacking more of your products
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: and the science behind it all. I think it's, like
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: I said, really important to understand the science behind it
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: so that people know what they're buying. I personally don't
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: want people buying those knockoffs or people that are pretending
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: to be like you, because they're not going to get
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: the health benefits, So I really appreciate you coming on
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: and explaining all of this stuff. There's a lot to
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: unpack and a lot to take in, but I know
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: your website has a ton of resources. I was on
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: it yesterday looking at all this stuff that you have
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: done and the research behind it, and you're very transparent
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: with everything. So if any of you want to learn
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: more about these products, please go to Eagle Dash Research
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: dot and see if it's right for you. I even
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: noticed that you sell some used products at a discounted
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: rate for people to try that have things in them,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: which makes it affordable for people. And there's a payment
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: plan option as well through payper.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: And we're trying to encourage people to rent, buy and
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: rent machines, like buy the refurbished ones and then rent
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: them out. We have four people in the world doing
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: that right now, and their machines are one hundred percent rented,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent of the time for two or three
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars a month. So it's it's a really good
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: business that people can get into and it'll help even
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: more people who can't afford the three thousand dollars for
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: a machine.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely well again, always such a pleasure to see
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: you and speak to you. I can't wait to dive
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: deeper into these topics when you come on in the future.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: So I appreciate you coming on today and taking the
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: time out of your crazy busy schedule to spread this
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: wonderful research and information.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: I appreciate having found you and Stacey and all the
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: help that you've given us to help spread this word.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course, anything anything to help. And I want
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: to thank our audience for tuning in as well. If
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: you have found this episode helpful, please send it to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: someone who you think it may help as well. We
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: all need a little help with our health and if
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: we can all be optimized, why not do it? So
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: check out Eagle dashresearch dot com for more information on
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: George Wiseman and all of his amazing products. So stay
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: tuned for the next episode. Everyone, take care, goodbye.