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08/23/2023 580 Live with Dave Allen - Brad McElhinny and Mike Pushkin · The Dave Allen Show

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in Chapmanville. Coming up a little bit later on to the show, he's
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back for the second consecutive week. I'm talking about Mike Pushkin State Democratic Party
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chair and House of Delica It's member. He's going to join this a little
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bit later on. Also standing by Metro New state wide correspondent Brad mclahanny.
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I want to get to him on some things as well well. Of course,
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a big story around these parts. The Thai Hunt saga continues, talking
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about former Charleston Police Chief Thi Hunt and now lieutenant. An official complaint was
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filed on Monday and was confirmed by Lieutenant Tony Hazelo with the Charleston Police Department
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to media members yesterday. At this latest, this is a woman, a
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former police officer, is alleging, alleging being the keyword, that Chief Hunt
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falsified a polygraph test to help her get higher down. The former complaint was
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filed with the State Police. Lady in question i had applied to be an
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officer in twenty eighteen and said that she had been worried about passing the lie
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detector due to pass drug use. She's claiming claiming that then the police chief
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Taka told her she would pass. She is alleging that the two had had
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sex. The woman was later charged with battery after a fight at a party
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and resigned from the Charleston Police Department. She then rejoined the force a year
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or so later and again took a potograph test that she says she lied on
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the test, but passed the test anyway. So that's where we are right
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now with the with the Tai hunt situation. And it was brought up Monday
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night Drean City Council and at that time the mayor said to media members there
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had been no formal complaint. Well, that formal complaint is here folowed with
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the West Virginia State Police. So we'll no no comment as of now from
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city officials on this. We will have comments when they become available. So
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that's where we are right now. Let's get to our good friend atroduced it.
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Why correspondent Brad Mcalhenny. Brad, Good morning, how are you?
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What a seg? Hello? Yes? Hello Brad? How are things happy?
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Happy Wednesday? Everybody? I hadn't mad you on to to. I
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think you'd been vacationing, maybe putting a kid in college or something like that.
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I had a few things to do. Yeah, I've had to move
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at least one kid around around this great nation and also took a bit of
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a restpite. So I'm back this week and where did it go? Well,
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you know, and you certainly aren't it. The hardest working man in
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media. And while we're talking about college, you know, I'm a man
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of the world, as you know. My day yesterday took me to the
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lovely campus of West Virginia Wesleyan in mccannon Bucktown, as the locals called home
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of the iconic donut spot best donuts and Pepperoni rolls in the state of West
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Virginia, by the way. And I was talking to some university officials there
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yesterday at Westley and they were telling me Brad some of the things that they
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were doing to try to help out the students of Alderson brought us. And
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I know State and I've had Eric Cage on the show, and I've had
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Marty Roth of University of Charleston the show talking about it as well, what
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some of these institutions are doing to try to help out these students of Alderson
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brought us University. And I'm hearing Brad in talking to some folks in that
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area yesterday that there could be even more fallout from this mess that is Alderson
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brought us. We'll get the WVU in a moment but there's some more stuff
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coming out here. Well. For one thing, Alderson Brought Us, although
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it is closed to students, still needs to wind down, and it had
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significant debt, including a multimillion dollars loan from the US Department of Agriculture,
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a loan meant for rural entities that can't get lending from other sources because they're
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so far behind the eight ball. So it seems like what remains of Alderson
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Brought Us is headed towards some sort of bankruptcy, probably a liquidation, and
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so then presumably a judge will determine who was entitled to whatever property remains.
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You know, I mean, Allison brought Us is deeply embedded with Philippi,
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the community that within and has been for roughly one hundred years. So you
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know, you'd hope for a good outcome from from all of that wind down
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and the property could become something else, something useful that would thrive in the
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community. But of course there are no guarantees for social matters, so that
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that's hard to say that. The students themselves, I think largely have been
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transferring and as you said, Wesleyan and other West Virginia colleges have tried to
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ease their path towards transferring some of the folks who who you know, wanted
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all theism brought us to succeed. I sure don't blame them people who supported
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the college and felt very invested. There was among some of those folks that
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that that Wesleyan and was hoping for all of some and Brods's demise. I
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don't necessarily buy into that. That's kind of a fairly negative way of conspiratorial
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way of thinking. But you know, these were folks who were deeply pressured
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rooting for their their institution, and you know, some of them, not
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all came to believe that that Wesleyan was was kind of trying to push push
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the situation to get those students. It is true that West Virginia has a
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declining college going population, and so unfortunately students represent money through their tuition,
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through their room and board, through being on campus and paying for stuff.
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So there, you know, there's an incentive to have as many students as
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you can. But I don't know, I'm just I'm just suggesting to you
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and listeners that that was kind of a subplot that was circulating in the atmosphere.
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Well, now, let's get to the state's land grand Institution Brad WVU
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students protesting on campus on Monday like it was nineteen sixty eight all over again.
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Yeah, And you know, I think one question is where will that
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go? Will that kind of student protests change things or alter the course at
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least a little bit in terms of what kinds of sacrifices WVU is making.
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There were more students protesting in a different way yesterday. That was individual students
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addressing the Board of Governors, which was having a special meeting. One of
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them I saw asked directly right in front of him for the resignation of President
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Gee. And so the university is facing multiple pressures. One is clearly financial
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forty five million dollar budget gap that w is trying to close right away.
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The university has estimated that that could expand to as much as seventy five million
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dollars if they don't take action. But the more pressures come from pushback from
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students and faculty and community members. And then finally, the media covering the
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situation is not just me and you and the Gazette, mail and other West
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Virginia media, but it's national. Two, it's it's the new York Times,
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it's the Washington Post, it's the Chronicle of higher Education. It was
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the top of the front page story on our significant regional newspaper, the Pittsburgh
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Post Gazette earlier this week. Didn't Forbes also do a speed I think it
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was Forbes or somebody did a piece on it as well. I think Forbes
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did one, you know, and like Alderson brought us, what WFU would
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like to do to ease its own pressure is increased student population. Well,
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you know, when that's on the front page of the Pittsburgh Post Gazette,
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which is a main drawing area, when it's at the by on the front
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page or the Washington Post, a lot of students from DC, Maryland,
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Virginia, they are maybe not newspaper readers, but that's still you know,
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it puts reputational concerns out in the water for them and their parents. Well,
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those free pressures, right, And here's where it goes politically, because
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I've already seen some Democratic folks tweeting some things out about, you know,
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trying to tie this to the governor and say and I'm not I'm not doing
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that myself, but I'm just saying what they're saying is is basically, if
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the governor or the state of West Virginia fair or not fair, This is
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what's being put out there. If the governor, said of West Virginia can't
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keep the largest institution in the state from from having all these issues, how's
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he going to do in the Senate. I'm not saying that. I don't
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think that's a fair comparison, I'll be honest with you, but that is
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being floated out there. Boy, yeah, you know so. I guess
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I would say that justice as a commodate for a high profile Senate race,
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has to be a tune to public opinion, particularly from potential voters. And
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the other thing is he is a significant power player. He's got a good
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relationship with President Yee and over the seven years that he's been in office,
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names the members of the Board of Governors to BVU. I had a private
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thought yesterday that I will just share privately with you, which is that if
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students want to make a difference and have a protest or walk out, the
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place they had to walk out to is the sidewalk between the Governor's mansion and
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the capital. Do you remember the let them Play rally where during the height
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of COVID athletes and their families got out in front of the capital and protested
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while the governor was coming up the walk. Yep, that kind of thing
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can prove effective. Yeah, you're exactly right. I'm talking to Brad mack
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ahead before we let you go, Brad. Yesterday there was a lot of
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bill signing going on yesterday. Talk about that. Yeah, So, I
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mean, these are these are good things. And this came from the surplus
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has been running and so consequently you don't know if you're going to have a
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surplus necessarily in future years. The economy could change. We've been talking about
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a recession for how long now, dave the past decade, So you don't
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know that that surplus will be there next year. So the legislature would have
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got together in special session allocated one time spending to a variety of things.
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One of those was forty five million dollars for Marshall University's Cybersecurity Institute. The
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money is going to go not to ongoing funding of the program, but for
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its headquarters in Huntington to pay for that facility. So the one time spending.
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So the governor was there to sign the bill at Marshall. Marshall's President
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Brad Smith was there, President Blair and Speaker Handshaw, And as an aside,
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I'm currently keeping a whiteboard dedicated purely to whether Justice and Blair are currently
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getting along or not. But yesterday they were. But that forty five million
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dollars to Marshall, ironically is the same amount as wu's budget gap. The
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argument against giving WV the forty five million dollars is WV seems to anticipate it
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would need it in perpetuity into coming years. But nevertheless, right now,
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forty five million dollars went to Marshall, and w has a forty five million
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dollars budget gap. The other thing I will say, in fairness is,
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if you've used Cancer Institute got fifty million dollars during the regular session, so
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WVIEW got a similar one time expenditure to support its facilities. But a little
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bit of pain there the forty five million dollars for Marshall, and W's got
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the forty five million dollars gap. I bet Pushkin as a thing or two
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to say about that. Well, oddly enough, he just walked into the
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Palmar Store studio, so we'll get to him after the break Brad Quick thirty
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seconds. What do you what do you what do you keep an eye out
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for today? What's what's going on today? Well, the governor's got this
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briefing today at quote unquote noon, so you know, we'll see what he
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has to say. I don't know that we're expecting legislation exactly, but we're
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coming up on Labor Day and that is the traditional date when campaigns really heat
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up, and Justice is involved in a big one, the Campaign for Justice.
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There's always interest in his finances, and the Campaign for Justice got a
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delay, an approved delay, to file his financials with the US Senate.
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That's not the same as the Federal Elections Commission. Those are those are two
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different filings. But the Senate expects both members and candidates to submit fairly detailed
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filings about what they're what the candidate or members a soul output actually is.
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And you know that's given given Justice his history, that's going to be very
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interesting. My understanding is the deadline for him and his campaign to submit that
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filing is tomorrow, but it's possible that they would get another waiver on another
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delay. On the other hand, they might follow it might be mined for
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some interesting information. Well, Brad will be following you along on the website
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and on the air and on Twitter and all the socials. I appreciate you
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being here. Thanks a lot, sir, Thanks Dave, and hello to
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and Cross Lanes, Texas. Forty five million from Marshall seems to involve infrastructure
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and long term use. Forty five million for w VU seems more expensive for
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labor than other things. A couple of quick does before we bring pushkin in
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network and of course on your mobile devices as well. State Democratic Party chair
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and delicate Mike Pushkin is here. How are you, man, I'm doing
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well. Good morning, Thank you, thank you for being here. All
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right, you're done? All right, man? I think so why would
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he? What have you heard? Well, nothing, I haven't made up
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yet. But but what's stopping you? Well in the past? Head.
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Oh so we're gonna fire. We're gonna take a shot already. Okay,
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all right, it's that kind of date. It's that kind are are you?
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Are you upset? It's the heat. Upset about the heat getting to
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you. Man. It's not so much the heat, I'm hid, it's
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the humidity. Now. I'm upset about what's going on at our flagship university.
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Okay, and you know a school that I attended, you did,
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uh? And yeah, So it's and it's not just about the student consider
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there now, it's not just about although I'm very proud of the students who
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stood up for their school and stood up for their departments and stood up for
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themselves the other day. And I hope that President Gee and the uh,
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the board of governors, and especially our governor and our legislature. I hope
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they were listening. Hope Hope Springs Eternal. But it's not just about the
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current faculty staff students. Is about the future of West Virginia. In order
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to attract businesses here, in order to attract people here, we we've got
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to have educated people. We have to have an educated workforce. And you
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don't get there by just you know, slashing your flagship university and cutting departments
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that are very important, whether it's foreign languages. You know, we're trying
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to attract fortune five hundred companies here from some of these are multinational corporations.
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They're going to look at that as we don't have a foreign they not have
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a foreign language department at your flagship university. The slashes to the English department,
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whether they're cutting creative writing, and there's also a massive cuts to the
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English department. And I can tell you that, you know, written communication
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is one of the most important skills you need, uh, not just in
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this day and age, but in every day and age. It's it's incredibly
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important. Uh, you know, the graduate level mathematics classes. The cuts
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to our education department, so that we're going to be producing less teachers from
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at school. It's it's going to be devastating to the future of this state,
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definitely to the future of the Morgantown community. We're in your opinion,
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where does the major There's enough blame to go around, but where is the
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majority of blame line their opinions? Well, you're at there's there's plenty of
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blame to go around. First of all, when you have a university president
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who I feel as a member of the legislature, and I've seen how how
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other universities have advocated for themselves, to see the lack of advocacy from Gordon
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ge and he's even said that he's not come down here and asked for funding.
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And then the other the blame could also be at the Republican legislature,
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who since they have been in control of the legislature, when they do make
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cuts, the first thing on the chopping block has been higher education. They
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have continued to cut higher education, especially in the early years of the Republican
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majority there twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, when they had to
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make cuts, the first thing to go was was higher education. It's not
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something that day valued, not something in to day prioritized. Had the WVW
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just been kept at its regular funding level. Uh, they're short they would
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have a short fall, but the short fall will be more manageable around seven
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million as opposed to forty five million right now. So yet a large part
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of that blame goes to the legislature and a large part of that blame goes
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to the governor who has simply not prioritized it. And it's you know,
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it's not just about that school, it's about the entire state. The state
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has no future when when you're when you're making this kind of these kinds of
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cuts to your flagship university. But why are we not here? And again,
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wvus a little bit of a different animal because it is this the land
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Grand Institution is the largest university in the state. I get that now,
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But but but but why are we not hearing about these problems at Marshall University?
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Why are we not hereing about these problems that even some of the smaller
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schools that receive state funding in the state of Western why are we not hearing
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about that at these other schools? Well, prior to President brad Smith,
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you had President Gilbert who was up at the legislature advocating for for the university
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there on a regular basis. He was there and he and you know it,
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maybe it might not have been the most politically expedient thing for him to
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do. You know, he's no longer there, but he was doing the
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right thing for his university. And and often, I hate to say it,
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at Gordon ge just seems to be reg regurgitating these conservative talking points and
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blaming higher education for its own demise. It's just simply not true. It's
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something we used to value in this country, was higher education. And now
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uh, you see, I'll give you an example. You have one of
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the second tier Republican candidates for president, Governor DeSantis, who is an Ivy
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League educated. You might not know it by listening to him, but here's
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an Ivy League education. And he's been downplaying that because he thinks that that
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hurts him in a Republican primary. Uh several years ago, when you know
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somebody who I consider a friend, who I disagree with on just about every
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issue, but the former chair of the West Virginia GOP, Conrad Lucas,
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he's also he also has an Ivy League education. And when he was running
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in that primary against Carol Miller and the Republican primary, she attacked him for
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his Ivy League education, and apparently it worked. She won that race in
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a landslide. It's something that used to be valued. People wanted their kids
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to have a good education, and now it's seen as old. And I
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don't disagree with what you're saying, but there's got to be a balance there,
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because we also don't want to look down on people because they don't have
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and I know you don't do that, but but but I mean, we
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got to have a balance there. But I don't disagree with what you're saying.
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What do you always felt like, you know, to look down to
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make that? And it has been become a Republican talking point to like think,
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oh, people with it's it's elitism and no, it's I've always felt
26:11
like, you know, what if if if you're the smartest person in the
26:14
room, you're in the wrong room. We should surround ourselves with people who
26:18
are smarter than we are. I do it. I do it every day
26:21
too. I really it just kind of defaults to that. Well, what
26:23
do you think about what Brad said? I don't know whether you've heard this
26:26
or not about how this looks on a national front. It's horrible and I
26:32
know I saw something I think you had retweeted maybe was it from Forbes or
26:34
something like that about the story. I don't and I know he talked about
26:37
to Pittsburgh Post Gazette and the Washington Post have written stories about this. It's
26:41
not a good look for the state of West Virginia. And I always bring
26:45
things back to politics. You know, this Senate race is going to be
26:48
huge on a nationwide level, and when you have a right or wrong,
26:55
I'm not I'm not I'm not putting it on either side. I'm just saying
26:57
that when you have you know, people are going to make a point of
27:00
this that the governor of the state of West Virginia who wants to be the
27:03
US Senator to take Senator Mansion seat, whether he runs or not, we
27:07
don't know that this happened on his watch, and that is that's going to
27:12
be made a political talking It could be made a political talking point by Alex
27:15
Mooney in the primary. It should be. It should be made a point.
27:19
And it's not just a talking point, I mean, not just a
27:22
political talking point. It's real. It did happen on his watch, as
27:23
well as a whole lot of other things that have happened on his watch,
27:27
whether the it's the huge increase in the number of children in foster care that
27:33
are getting properly taken care of, whether it's the the total we've had to
27:37
dismantle the DHHR under his watch, it's become completely dysfunctional over there, whether
27:42
it's the droves of engineers that are leaving the Department of Transportation because of the
27:47
toxic culture over the Department of Transportation, whether it's the lawsuits against I could
27:52
go on day, the State Police because of the toxic culture at the State
27:55
Police. And yeah, it's all happened. What do all these problems have
28:00
in common, They've all happened under Governor Justice's watch. And now we're seeing
28:03
the latest in these number of crises that have occurred on his watch. And
28:07
that's our our flagship university failing and and and just being gutted. Uh.
28:15
And that's something that's going to affect this state, uh, for the perpetuity.
28:18
It's going to affect this state for years to come, affect generations of
28:22
this state. And yeah, it's a horrible look when you see these articles
28:26
in Forbes magazine, where the leading business magazines biggest business publications in the country
28:30
writing that West Virginia is not prioritizing education, or you see at the Pittsburgh
28:34
Post to Gazette and all these these national uh media outlets that are this this
28:41
incredibly sad story about w V. It's not going to attract businesses to this
28:45
state. It'll do exact opposite. It's not going to attract people. It's
28:48
definitely not going to attract young people to this state. And if we're one,
28:53
I think we're right now the only state that's actually losing population. That's
28:57
a big problem, and it's it's been increasing under Jim Justice's watching a lot
29:03
of public dying. Mike, they're dying. But in other states, new
29:07
people move here and and raise family, you know, a Republican talking point
29:11
for years, or their sloga, they wanted to make the state a great
29:15
place to live, work and raise the family. Well, people aren't moving
29:18
here. They were moving here, Mike, they are moving here. I
29:21
can tell you why are they're not moving here at a greater rate than people
29:25
dying, Because we are losing population. And that's a fact proved me wrong.
29:27
No, I can tell you they are moving to West Virginia because i
29:30
live in Tay's Valley and I'm seeing it every day with new Core, I'm
29:33
seeing people moving. They are moving it, but it may not be it
29:37
may not be enough. I'm great to be parts of the state are wh
29:42
It was the what we would call the I seventy nine corridor, but that's
29:47
gonna be coming to an end where these cuts the WVU. You know,
29:49
this is something really is troubling that you're When Gordon Gee first took over,
29:53
he went on and he tried to sell a bill of goods to the local
29:56
chamber up there in local businesses and a lot of property owners, talking about
30:00
how much he was going to grow the university, and they have overgrown the
30:04
city of Morgantown there. There's all this available housing there. What's going to
30:10
happen to all the housing that has been built for the students that aren't coming
30:12
and it's still being built up there. It's a bit of construction. It's
30:15
a big problem, all right. I Mean, I got some texts here
30:18
Texas with state tax money now going to local fire departments, and we know
30:22
how well they're regulated. Can we get levy money back? Part of what
30:26
the governor announced yesterday was that some of this some money was going to be
30:30
going into the fire departments and emergency services, especially volunteer party. I'm absolutely
30:36
in on education all ins. As a texture, I've said, judge me
30:40
by my deeds. That was Governor Jim Justice on back in twenty eighteen.
30:44
According to a texture, his deeds are proven. This statement false. WVU
30:48
is failing, a big gym is too weak to do anything. No speech,
30:49
no special session, no blue ribbon commission, no agenda, no effort,
30:53
just a bunch of political bull You know what. This is what happens
30:56
when you vote for a phony populist. Yeah. If every single aspect of
31:00
of of state government under Governor Justice is now failing, he has the reverse
31:07
Midas touch. Everything he has touched has turned into something I can't even mention
31:12
on the start. And now he's more concerned about winning an office in Washington,
31:18
DC than he is about actually showing up at his office down the street
31:22
at the Capitol. And and it's showing at some point, at some point,
31:27
somebody has got to realize that the emperor wears no clothes. And if
31:30
I put that image and he must apologize, anybody had justice without clothes.
31:37
But the emperor wears is not going to be there much longer. There's going
31:41
to be a different Republican emperor in the in the in the governor's mansion,
31:45
not forbid, not of anything. Take what I want to talk about that
31:48
Texas Pushka is one of those lofty ideal liberals who thinks West Virginia needs math
31:53
and language courses to succeed as West Virginia and we need all we need is
31:56
a matic at a bag of Pepperoni rolls. I think that was time.
31:59
I think, especially if the part that was most tongue, and I think
32:04
it was referring to me as lofty. Texas certainly okay not to go to
32:07
college, but one in four doesn't bode well for an educated workforce in the
32:12
past five years. High school graduate or higher percent of persons age twenty five
32:16
plus eighty eight percent, bachelor's degree or higher percent percentage of persons twenty one
32:22
point eight percent, says A texture did push can get a degree from WVU,
32:24
says A texture I did not. I attended. I studied English there,
32:29
but no, I did not finish. I was definitely more interested in
32:31
playing music. Yeah, and I see absolutely nothing wrong with that. I
32:37
do. I think I value you can come back here, not one hundred
32:40
and eight. You can still go back. I'm getting closed to it.
32:43
You're getting closed to it. But I no, I mean, I think
32:45
it's not just about me. I don't always rever everything back to what's worked
32:49
for me. What's going to work for the state is having a strong university
32:53
with a wide array of courses of study so we can have a well trained,
32:58
well educated workforce and actually have a state that people really do want to
33:02
move to and live, work and raise a family. A text says we'll
33:07
do this before break, asking why the Democrats always point fingers instead of name
33:09
calling, providing leadership and specific policies or solution. Why are you pointing fingers,
33:15
Michael, Well, because there's plenty of blame to go around. But
33:17
as far as policy, yeah, we've offered amendments to restore funding to higher
33:22
education over the years, and we have offered amendments to prioritize what we feel
33:29
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We'll start about five o'clock this afternoon. Jenny Murray, DJ, Matt and
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Murphy pupping out the tunes at the Carpet for Working Women's Wednesday tonight. Tex
36:14
says you have Morrissey and More both running for governor a more capital. They're
36:19
referring to that's wanting to cut higher education of public education. Wake up people,
36:23
says a texture. Texture says dude. Always like when they start with
36:29
dude. Dude. On the Marshall budget question, let me plug WV Metronews
36:32
dot com Jeff jenkins Is June twenty five, twenty twenty three article quotes the
36:37
Marshalls CFO on a projected twenty four million dollar financial statement loss expected for twenty
36:43
twenty three fiscal year on the budget deficit of about nineteen million dollars. Tex
36:49
says WVU needed forty five million to save the program for four hundred thirty five
36:52
students. That's over one hundred thousand dollars per student of your taxes. Puppetry
36:58
is important. Macca's only puppets could agree. Okay, Yeah, that's that's
37:00
the point that people like Greg Thomas and Rob Cornelius, your frequent guests on
37:05
here, like to bring it up as probably them texting. They look to
37:07
bring up the puppetry department, which actually is a very course of study that
37:12
actually pays for itself. There actually was a puppetry department. Yeah, and
37:16
they were going to cut it before there was a petition that was passed around
37:19
and actually what they found out and looking at it, actually it paid for
37:22
itself. It wasn't costing the university anything. But let's talk about the mathematics.
37:28
The mathematics program that's being cut areign the foreign language department. There will
37:32
be no foreign language department. That's a pretty important course of study. They're
37:37
not going to be teaching any foreign languages in a state where we're trying to
37:40
attract a lot of these multinational companies to come open up shop here. It's
37:45
not going to happen without a foreign language department. And then all these students
37:49
that want to take this course of study, well, they're going to be
37:52
leaving West Virginia because there's no play. There won't be any place for them
37:53
to do that here. They will be leaving West Virginia, likely to never
37:57
return. So it's a self fulfilling prophecy, and it's going to We already
38:01
have a dwindling population in here, population here in West Virginia, and he's
38:07
cuts to the university are only going to exacerbate that problem. We are the
38:12
one state that's continuing to lose population under this Republican supermajority, and this do
38:16
nothing part time governor. Uh, they can't bring himself to actually have a
38:21
cabinet meets an, he can't bring himself shows not there anymore, Mike,
38:24
I mean, and I don't disagree with what you're saying a lot of this
38:29
on governed justice, with all due respect to the governor, but he's not
38:31
going to be there anymore. You're gonna have another Republican in there, and
38:35
hopefully it's going to be a Republican. Hopefully they don't have a business that's
38:37
getting a one How many billions of dollars were they just find in Virginia?
38:43
And I, you know what, I've got something for the media. How
38:45
come nobody is covering that. They're so very such little coverage of the fact
38:51
that we have a governor that's getting fined by our neighboring state. Do you
38:54
read the Charleston Dozette mail. Yeah, it hasn't been that much in there
38:58
about it, and it's not being covered as much as it is a lot
39:00
of other things. It's not being covered. How have you ever heard of
39:04
a governor getting his wages garnished while he was in office because he refuses to
39:07
pay his debts, because he refuses to pay the health benefits for his minors.
39:13
This is a state that that you know, values that men and women
39:16
who go down in the minds risk their lives to power this country, and
39:21
the governor values them so little, so little that he refuses to pay their
39:25
health insurance for their health insurance. Okay, all right, And I don't
39:30
say a gangerous job. They often too often get hurt. And if you
39:32
work for Jim Justice, God help you because he didn't pay your premier.
39:37
I don't disagree with a whole lot of what that means, you agree,
39:39
and a whole lot of a second day, when you say you don't disagree,
39:42
does that mean that you agree? I agree with parts with parts of
39:44
it yet Okay, that's great, parts of it. Yeah, absolutely.
39:46
But I will also say that come January of twenty twenty five, Jim Justice
39:53
is no longer going to occupy the office. Okay, there's going to be
39:57
there's going to be another Republican in there. I think it's good. So
40:00
you admit it's no Jeff, did you hear that? He just admitted it's
40:05
going to be a Republican. We're gonna have a Republican governor. Well,
40:07
I agree, we will have a new governor, and all right, I
40:09
necessarily hope it's not another I don't know if we can handle you have to
40:15
have you asked Steve Williams make that announcement. But what I was going to
40:19
say, Do you think I'm just saying think these things for the sake of
40:22
saying because I want to blame the Republican governor. No, it's not simply
40:25
because he's a Republican. It's because he's a horrible governor. He's doing a
40:30
horrible job. And it's because I love West Virginia and I want to see
40:32
West Virginia succeed. And we are failing in every single aspect of state government
40:37
under this this guy's watch, because he doesn't show up for work. I
40:42
hope whoever the governor is, I hope they show up for work. Republican,
40:45
we might disagree, Hopefully, hopefully it's a governor and I agree with
40:49
it. It's going to be a republic for the sake of the west of
40:51
West Virginia. I hope it's a Democrat because we seem to know it's not.
40:54
We seem to know how to govern a lot better. And all of
40:58
these years, all of these good things that you are seeing. Yeah,
41:00
I know, the past ten years we've been hemorrhaging people and young people out
41:04
of this state. Tell me what good has happened in the past ten years.
41:07
I say most of it happened during the first two years of the Biden
41:09
administration, when with the help of Senator Mansion, they passed the Inflation Reduction
41:14
You talked about new Core earlier. Why do we have new core because of
41:16
the Inflation Reduction Act and because of the infrastructure bill that you're president President Trump
41:22
talked about every other week but just couldn't seem to pass. All right,
41:27
let me knock out some text here. Mike Pushkin is a leader of a
41:29
losing organization. He has little influenced state politics, and quite frankly, is
41:32
irrelevant to the political, economic, educational trajectory of West Virginia. A few
41:37
people actually care what Pushkin thinks. Are does cared enough to text? There
41:42
you go, A good answer, Tech says, I'm glad to hear Mike
41:45
Pushkins around himself with people smarter than him. I guess that's why he finds
41:47
himself in a room full of Republicans when lawmakers are in session. Well,
41:52
yeah, that president company excluded there. Okay, let me ask you this
41:55
Wait a minute, let me ask you this question. Okay. I was
41:59
talking to some earlier this morning who not in the world of politicians, Fred
42:02
of mine. It was talking about you being on the show this morning.
42:06
I told him you're gonna be on the show this morning, and he said,
42:07
does person can ever have anything at all good to say about Republicans?
42:12
Now? Last week I wish I could. Last week you complimented Tony Hodge
42:15
on his peanut butter fudge making abilities. But other than that, and there
42:19
are times you've talked about it on the show about when about how the majority
42:23
of bills who get pasted in West Virginia are bipartisan. They just don't make
42:27
the headlines because they're not sexy sometimes. And I know you have for friends
42:30
that are on the Republican Party, but I mean, is there any good
42:34
you can say about about Republicans? I wish there was. I wish they
42:37
would do nothing. They have so much power right now. This is what's
42:40
so frustrating about it. They have, you know, the Governor's office,
42:44
they have the entire Board of Public Works, and they have supermajorities in both
42:47
the West Virginia House and the West Virginia Senate. And what are they choosing
42:51
to do about it? They seem to just focus on culture war issues that
42:54
actually don't really improve the lives, the day to day lives of West Virginia.
42:59
There's so much good that they could be doing. I wish I could
43:02
say more good about them, but they're not giving me anything to say good
43:07
about them. Bush, We're failing, says Pushkin, complaining about a guy
43:10
he helped elect in twenty sixteen. I ought, to be quite honest,
43:15
I did not vote for him in the primary, and he really didn't need
43:19
my help that much in the general. And if you want to look at
43:22
his I mean I would beg the Texter to go look at his campaign finance
43:25
report if he ever reported it. I don't know if he's gonna report is
43:29
now. I'm not sure. If you know, he doesn't seem to follow
43:30
rules. I don't think you'll see my name on the campaign finance report.
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Tech says West Virginia has historically valued minors so much at the West Virginia government
45:58
once teamed with a mercenary force to drop from planes and use machine guns to
46:01
stop minors from striking to improve their working conditions. Texas Pushkin talking about just
46:09
as being a failure and everything he does sounds exactly like our senile commander in
46:14
chief. I disagree, and you look at the track record what we're enjoying
46:17
right now in West Virginia. When you see these ribbon cuttings, whether it's
46:21
a new core form energy or this most recent hydrogen hub, it's all due
46:28
to several pieces of legislation that were passed under the first two years of the
46:30
Biden administration. When he actually had a Congress of Democratic Congress that he could
46:36
work with, whether it's the Inflation Reduction Act, whether it was the Chips
46:40
Bill, whether it was the Infrastructure Bill, American Rescue Plan. A lot
46:45
of that investment in West Virginia is due to that work that this administration did
46:51
with the help of Senator Mansions. I might sound like a broken record,
46:53
but it's not getting any less true. It's the truth. It is the
46:58
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47:00
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be watching the Republican debate tonight, Michael. You know, I might watch
47:21
a clock. It's all late. I like to get up earlier, and
47:25
you know, we'll see how you know it's the battle for vice president.
47:29
I guess because right now they're all away behind Uh, your guy Trump.
47:34
I wish you would not refer to him as my guy because he's not my
47:37
guy. But well, it was funny because he actually said that in a
47:42
statement. He said something to the effect of, I'll be watching to interview
47:46
my next vice president. And it's not gonna be Pents, I can tell
47:50
you that. But but I think what will be interesting about is to see
47:52
how far they go to the extreme extreme right. They're gonna be trying to
47:58
really outmagat each other in an effort to become the second place candidate. And
48:04
you know, there is also a distinct possibility because I do think a lot
48:07
of these, uh, these charges against against President Trump, former President Trump,
48:12
are very serious, and there's a distinct possibility that he might actually have
48:15
to take a plea deal that takes him off the ballot. He's going to
48:17
show he's got I think Juliana Giuliani is supposed to be in court in Atlanta
48:22
today, uh, and I think Trump is supposed to be there tomorrow,
48:25
and this time he's actually going to be finger printed and wade and the whole
48:30
medical thing. Yes, I'll have all that. Tex says, this is
48:34
the Democratic Party chair support Amy Goodwin's war and women where victims are not believed
48:38
hashtag women should support women. Uh. Tex says, if we don't have
48:45
a puppetry department where we're Republicans to be educated, the GOP needs its puppets.
48:50
Uh that that well, that was that was clever. Tex says,
48:53
what about w grads, the good to grad school that requires a foreign language
48:58
for admission. I guess there's a whole lot of issues. Here's something else
49:02
that really bothered me is why did President ge wait until moving in day to
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make these announcements. He waited until the students were already showing up, instead
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of giving the proper respect and treating the students with that kind of respect to
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give them a heads up on what was going on at the university. Tell
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you this is gonna have long lasting effects on this state. Uh, it's
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you know, to destroy public education in this state. It's really it's it's
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really throwing away our future. And and it's sad. And this isn't just
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political talking points. Uh. I sincerely love this state and I hate to
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see what's what's been happening to it over the over the past decade. Well,
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and I think that the really sad thing too is that most and I'm
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as big as sports, not as you are, and you know, you
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and are big sports fans. We're talking about sports are in a break.
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But if if this were, if these problems were to be leveled upon the
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WV athletic program, I think people would be more interested. I guess that's
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where we are. It's where we are over it. If you think this
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won't affect recruiting for football and basketball, and I know that we're talking about
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uh, you know, higher education, and that's what's more important. And
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I'm also a sports fan, and maybe people will pay attention because it is
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going to have a spillover effect on our football and basketball programs and it will
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be harder to recruit student athletes to come to our university to play sports.
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And yeah, yeah, maybe when we go when we go winless in football,
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maybe people will wake up. But it's it's coming unfortunately, Texas.
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Pushkin's right about problems being caused by a largely absentee governor, but can absolve
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himself of helping get the guy in office in the first place. But you
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said you didn't support it or you didn't vote for it in the primary.
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Yeah, I had, I had, I had a binary choice in that
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general election, and I chose him over Bill Cole, who I had also
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worked with and thought would have been been not have been a good governor.
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Tex says, where has this ever happened? Our governor's wages have been garnaged
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for failure to pay a bank dad accord ordered him to pay six years worth
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of health insurance premiums for his coal company workers, and just last week,
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the billionaire governor was hit with one point two billion dollars in fines against companies
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in Virginia. I thank the Texture. I will thank that texture for having
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you read that, because that's the first time I've heard those words mentioned on
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this station in quite some time, and something that should be talked about.
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You know, back when somebody brought up twenty sixteen when the governor first shrine,
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and I think a lot of people, you know, were infatuated with
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the idea of the businessman coming in and running in the state like a business.
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Well, unfortunately he has run the state like he has his businesses,
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which means he doesn't pay. Incredibly irresponsible the way he runs his businesses,
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and what we're finding out is probably the reason why he has been successful as
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businesses because he was born with millions of dollars that's why, all right,
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quick text, someone needs to explained to Pushkin that expanding into a new state
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of the new business takes years and investors don't just up and decide overnight to
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open a multimillion dollar facilities. Sometimes takes years to get those permits approved fifteen
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seconds. Well we're not going to be getting them now, Well we are
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getting and then that's what the texture is referring to. Well, yeah,
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but not a lot of it was because of the with the infrastructure build had
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us be able to build up the area around New Court or bringing as business
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and with the Inflation Reduction Act has caused this investment into green energy that has
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brought these types of companies in Michael five any life percent apartment making. You'll
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separate the two bye, We'll see you tomorrow. Still then have fun and
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