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Radio Ranch with Roger Sayles REPLAY 091826 -Illinois Gun Rulings, Supreme Court Cases, and the Foundations of Common Law · Global Voice Radio Network's tracks

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  Unknown: Well, there we go with our familiar starting lyrics from Alvin Lee so long ago.
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  It's Friday. It's the fifth. I kind of thought it. I had thought it was the sixth but it's the April 5 here today.
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  And of course being Friday, we got Brent with us. Chris joined us right before we went on the air. And
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  so it's I always look forward to the Friday shows for a number of reasons, the weekend, of course. And when we originally started this, Brent, you'll remember I had a time slot in the afternoon,
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  and it was a Friday afternoon thing which even tended
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  to lead more into the weekend.
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  But it's a good show. We we we cover a lot of different things. You bring so much historical and factual
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  things to the table for us to ponder on and and and learn about and so, it's just always I look forward to it. I I think you do too. I don't want to speak for you but that's what I sense and I know a lot of the audience does because I've heard it over the years. So, you had a good week. Everything's okay, Yeah,
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  Unknown: Roger. I got news here just a little bit ago and just before we got on I called
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  a man and a woman here not far away that
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  I thought could help me fill in the gaps and what had happened was
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  there was a judge in a little rural County down here along the Wabash River
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  called White County,
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  White County, Illinois
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  and
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  the judge in that County
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  ruled
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  that the state of Illinois,
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  the requirement
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  that you got to have a card to possess a firearm is unconstitutional.
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  Yeah. And this is American
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  law at its best.
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  Local County judges,
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  judges of courts of unlimited
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  jurisdiction
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  as a practical matter
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  unlike the federal courts of limited jurisdiction.
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  This court is of unlimited jurisdiction.
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  There's no remedy that these little county courts
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  cannot provide if they will but take the nettle and do it. And he said this is unconstitutional
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  and if you'll give me a little indulgence, the order is short, I'd like to read it. Can I do that? Absolutely.
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  Well it says this in the circuit court for the second judicial district of White County,
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  White County, Illinois 02/14/2018.
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  People of the state of Illinois versus Vivian Claudine Brown.
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  And by the way, Vivian apparently had a 22 caliber bolt action rifle she kept in the corner
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  and in the mudroom for something by her house Brent, can I ask you, you said eighteen or 19?
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  Oh, this says
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  02/14/2018,
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  but the reason it's new
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  is because I said they just filed it. What happened was,
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  to be more clear,
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  the Attorney General of The United States,
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  the Attorney General of the State of Illinois has decided to take it up to the Supreme Court
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  and
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  so that's where it is lodged apparently now. I'm gonna try to follow-up more on that but I don't believe these kind of stories. I've learned not to unless I get
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  the order from the court duly stamped and all because there's so much baloney floating around out there. Oh this and some judge said that and but this is I've got the file stamp here, it's the 02/14/2018
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  and I'm gonna follow-up
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  to get the case as it's lodged in the Supreme Court of the state
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  but the order says this, order findings the statute unconstitutional.
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  On this fourteenth day of February twenty eighteen, this court after examining the defendant's motion to find a statute
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  unconstitutional
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  and being fully
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  advised in the premises finds as follows.
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  First, he says this court has jurisdiction of the parties hereto and the subject matter hereof. That's fancy talk but that means I can, I have right to do what I'm about to do and then he says the facts of this case are undisputed
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  and are fully set forth in defendant's motion to find statute
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  unconstitutional
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  filed herein 09/26/2017?
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  So this has been going on for a while but it's just coming to the forefront because of the Supreme Court
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  involvement.
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  Unknown: That's the state
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  Supreme Correct.
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  Unknown: This the statute in question is 40
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  Illinois
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  statute sixty five two a one which provides for the following. It says this
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  and this has been the law by the way since 1968
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  when the feds
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  passed what they called the Firearms
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  Control Act of 1968 or something.
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  The statute says this in Illinois, No person may acquire or possess any firearm within this state with without having in his or her possession a firearm owners identification card
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  previously issued in his or her name by the Department of State Police under the provisions of this act
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  and then it goes on to say each applicant for a firearms owner identification card
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  must make application of blank forms prepared and furnished by the Department of State Police
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  and each applicant for a firearm
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  owners identification card
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  shall furnish to the Department of the State Police his or her photograph and
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  then the judge goes on to say this, four thirty USC 60 five-five provides in part that in order to obtain a firearm owners identification
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  card, a person must submit to the Department of the State Police payment of a $10 fee.
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  Now when this first requirement first came out in 1968,
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  people didn't bat an eye and the truth is it's never been enforced, never.
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  Some people did it. They thought it was a patriotic thing to do during the heat of the Cold War and the height of our involvement in Southeast Asia
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  and they were all anti communist and said well this will be the step we'll take to
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  maybe involve men and the militia here and
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  help
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  and keep the peace but of course that wasn't it at all. They wanted $10.
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  But article one section 22 says this order of the constitution of the state of Illinois states as follows.
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  Subject only to the police power,
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  the right of the individual citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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  Now most folk will recognize the similarity
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  of that language with the second amendment of the General Constitution of The United States which uses the word infringed also
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  and then he quotes the Second Amendment
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  of the United States Constitution which says the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
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  and then he says the fourteenth amendment to The United States constitution provides
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  as follows. Quote, no state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge
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  the privileges or immunities of citizens
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  of The United States
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  and then he goes on. The judge says that the fourteenth amendment to The United States constitution incorporates the second amendment
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  right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self defense
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  and is applied to the states
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  and he cites McDonald versus City
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  of Chicago from 2010.
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  Thus the Second Amendment protects the right to keep and bear arms for the purpose of self defense.
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  He cites District of Columbia versus Heller which is a sister case to McDonald of 2008
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  and Heller found and he's gonna quote the Supreme Court of the United States that the inherent right of self defense has been central to the Second Amendment and the home is where the need for defense of self family and property is most acute.
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  Then he goes on, he says, in this case the facts show the defendant possessed a gun in her house for the purpose of self defense without a void card. Now I got it on secondhand information
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  that the gun in question was a 22 caliber bold action, old bold action 22 caliber rifle that most every farmer in the Midwest has probably somewhere to shoot varmints with, but the court goes on. To require the defendant to fill out a form, provide a picture ID and pay a $10 fee to obtain a
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  firearms owner identification card before he can exercise
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  his constitutional right to self defense with a firearm
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  is a violation of the second amendment of The United States constitution as applied to the states and the violation of article one section 22 of the constitution
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  of the state of Illinois applied to this case only. Trying to make his ruling narrow.
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  Then he says, based upon the foregoing, the court finds the statute in Illinois
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  four thirty Illinois
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  sixty five two a one unconstitutional
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  as applied to this case.
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  The court further finds that this statute cannot in this case reasonably be construed in a matter that would preserve its validity and this finding of unconstitutionality
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  is necessary to the decision of this case and this decision cannot rest upon an alternate ground.
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  This court finds therefore Supreme Court rule 18 has been complied with and it is ordered.
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  It is ordered that four thirty Illinois
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  statute sixty five two a one is unconstitutional
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  as applied to the defendant
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  herein.
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  Approved as to form Denton Odd,
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  state's attorney for White County and Allen C. Dowden, attorney for defendant.
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  I like to mention those boys name because they approved of the form of
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  this. Well, rate, that's what happened in Little White County and it had not come to my knowledge until just before we got on the air because it has now apparently
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  been decided it's gonna go to the Supreme Court of the state.
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  Unknown: It'll be worth watching. I saw that headline this week at some point,
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  it seems to me, I didn't read the story,
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  but
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  what I really found interesting was the judge's reasoning of incorporating the Second Amendment in under the fourteenth
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  for the purpose of self defense.
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  Very interesting line of reasoning and
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  it just I've never seen
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  I have not heard of it, maybe other people
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  that have done it judge wise, but I thought that's kind of novel.
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  Unknown: Well, it's novel as to the Second Amendment but a whole lot of the rest of the
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  fundamental rights
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  that our Bill of Rights and our United States Constitution cites, a whole lot of those have been incorporated to the states.
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  For example, the right to trial by jury of the sixth amendment was incorporated to the states in a case in Louisiana because Louisiana is not a common law jurisdiction like Quebec in Canada. Right. And so they didn't have trial by jury down there in capital cases until after 1968
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  but the Supreme Court said, now wait a minute. The fellow got convicted down there without a jury and he said, now wait a minute. He said the constitution, the fourteenth amendment says I'm a citizen not only of the state of Louisiana
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  but a citizen of The United States
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  and citizens of The United States have rights that are protected.
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  So he said I have a right to trial by jury and he took it all the way up, went to the Supreme Court. Supreme Court came back to the state of Louisiana and said now wait a minute boys,
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  this fellow has a right to trial by jury because he's a citizen of The United States. You've got to give him one before you chop his head off, send him to the electric chair or give him a necktie party.
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  And so they said, okay, okay, is a six man jury okay?
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  And I think the way I remember it, they said, yeah, that's okay. Six man man's okay. Of course six man is not okay.
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  It has to be 12 to be a common law jury and it has to be 12 to do the job and experience
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  has shown us through the centuries that 12 is the number and that's a fascinating subject and a fascinating study in and of itself but all the other rights for example, innocent until proven guilty,
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  the right to remain silent,
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  the right to be free from
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  the hindrance of Congress and of the state legislatures of religion. All of those things have been incorporated through the fourteenth amendment
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  to the states.
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  Now that see Locks Roger, here's what that does.
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  The people that drafted and ratified
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  the constitution of The United States
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  never figured on all this. The only reason the constitution was written was to limit the general government in Washington DC so it could not interfere in anything the states wanted to do. If the states wanted to outlaw firearms,
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  get rid of freedom of religion, freedom of speech, that was their business. That was the way it was viewed back then. But with
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  the fourteenth amendment then came the opportunity which came decades and decades, not till after World War two that did this incorporation business part where the Bill of Rights was incorporated to the states through the fourteenth amendment. Now people say, well we like that. We like the idea that the Bill of Rights is incorporated to us as United States citizens as well as citizens of states but of course the downside of that, know you could probably talk from out of the cows come home about that Roger. Yes, and you know I was thinking about this and some of those seminars where John taught us this stuff,
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  Unknown: and
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  I mentioned it the other day that I remember under the general heading of rights,
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  you've got two separate groups of rights. You've got political rights and you've got civil rights,
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  and the political rights are to be able to run for office, to be able to vote, all the things to do with
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  the body politic.
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  The civil rights are all the rights that you get interacting
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  society with other people and with the fourteenth amendment,
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  all they got was civil rights, they didn't give them any political rights.
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  Unknown: Yes, I understand,
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  but I
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  understand too that people would be upset if you tried to say well we need to just get rid of it because it's unconstitutional.
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  Not that I agree with them. I'm just making the point. The state
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  stat or the state constitution
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  in Illinois
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  and in most of the states tracks
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  with The
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  United States constitution respecting the right to keep and bear arms. So do we really need this incorporation?
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  Matter of fact, all of the other rights that are common law rights, that's why they're in our state constitutions.
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  They're all there. Do we need the fourteenth amendment?
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  That's question.
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  Unknown: No, they needed it to centralize and federalize everything to be able to bring this system in.
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  Was something real interesting came out of Chicago. I watched part of it last night. I don't know that I've ever seen anything like this
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  and I don't know that you've seen it yet, probably some of the audience has. They had a big meeting up in Chicago
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  with this guy that's the president of the Fraternal Order of Police. Have
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  you seen this yet, Brett?
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  Uh-huh.
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  And he got the board
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  of directors
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  of the Fraternal Order of Police and he got every police chief from every municipality
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  in Cook County there,
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  and they unanimously
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  demanded
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  that this
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  attorney that dropped the Smollett case up there resign.
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  Every police officer
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  in Cook County,
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  okay? I mean, it was a real impressive, about a twenty five minute press conference, and I watched, I don't know, ten, twelve minutes of it, but
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  it was very interesting. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before. And then last week, you had all the Republicans on the Intelligence Committee, nine of them, Jim Jordan, Nunes,
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  and some other ones of note,
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  got together and demanded Adam Schiff resign because of lack of confidence.
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  Two in one week, I mean, it's really interesting to me.
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  Unknown: Well then this whole thing about Biden,
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  I understand the attacks are coming against him Oh yes. The new Democratic Party they call it. Every direction?
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  Unknown: He's supposed to make his first public appearance or something. Yeah. Chris, come on. Chime in here, man.
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  Unknown: Well, this particular situation
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  regarding the resignation of the assistant district attorney that took up the small act case
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  was absolutely a politically directed associate of the Kamala Harris,
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  the Hillary Clinton gang Sure. Rahm Emanuel,
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  and other political activists,
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  communitarian,
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  Zionist, communist groups
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  in Chicago, Illinois, a very corrupt
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  state in particular. And it appears that the FOP,
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  the police agencies, the law enforcement bodies there have reached a breaking, a tipping point. Yep. And they are fed up with these political decisions overriding their extreme amounts of due diligent
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  forensic investigation
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  that expose
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  the deviosity
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  and the what we don't know
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  and what appears to be
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  is that the Barack Obama's
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  and other friends of his, Lance Holder, whoever else,
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  had a strong hand in directing this political activism
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  on the ground in defiance of the law of the land and in an abusive
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  assault
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  on the police agency powers who were trying to hold to accountable, but there are even more dangerous inferences
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  that small it may have been a victim of the sex trafficking with
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  the NXIVM and the Jeffrey Epstein and the other groups of Pedophile Island
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  in those circles.
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  That's part of the reason I think they're trying to
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  they're so fed up with this crap
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  of this dark
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  belly of the deep state operation.
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  Unknown: Well, you know, I haven't we haven't talked about this Jesse Smollett case, I don't believe, one time on the show, show, intentionally,
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  in one respect and another, because it really doesn't have a direct bearing on us. But it gets to this point right here, and I want to make one correction. I don't know if it's a correction or not, Chris, but let's say I want to make one observation on what you said. Rahm Emanuel, who is now going on the outgoing mayor of the town,
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  publicly denounced it,
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  okay? Now what has happened subsequently
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  this morning,
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  right before we went on the air, the Chicago
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  Fraternal Order of Police
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  are filing a suit to sue Jesse Smallett for $130,000
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  for all of the time they put in on the case to the file that reportedly was eight inches
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  deep
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  thick
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  that they just casually
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  closed.
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  So it's
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  going to be interesting, the backlash on all that, but I was just really commenting on those two specific incidences
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  of groups, especially the Chicago one, rising up en masse, and the gal was a state's attorney.
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  She had to get elected
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  for that position and ran, of course, on a totally different platform,
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  had done some other very questionable
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  things
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  that the police
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  chiefs they had several of them get up there and speak,
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  and each one of them used cited a different example,
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  and that this was, Chris, the straw that broke the camel's back. So it's very interesting to see the line the divide line
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  get broader.
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  Okay?
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  Unknown: For Brent's consideration and yours and everybody else's, I just sent a
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  an advisory for TSC
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  TSA,
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  the Transportation Security Administration for and the security's
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  real ID,
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  so on and so forth. And it also has links therein
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  of examples
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  of the new national terrorist
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  advisory
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  network,
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  the see something, say something group. Oh. And this Real ID is an insidious, and I think one could make the case that it's constitutionally
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  is absolutely questionable
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  and subject to some severe scrutiny
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  because
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  it's effectively the same thing. They're requiring people demanding them to contract with the government submit themselves to licensure by
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  registration,
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  stratifying in the name of the corporate Regis,
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  to put themselves on a list
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  when all they're doing is exercising their title eighteen two forty two part two parenthetical e, right to travel
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  Well free of government intervention. Although there could be a case for selective
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  examination
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  based upon observable facts and,
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  let's say, circumstances
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  of some people that might make them appear odd, subjective interpretively
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  as it is,
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  but there are some scientific
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  examinations,
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  and I think Israel is one of the places that does it, where they do selective
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  examining of special people rather than everybody
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  to expose them to this obnoxious
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  Unknown: government intervention. Well, don't worry if they're doing it in Israel, they'll be doing it in our place pretty quick.
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  Okay?
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  This is another point for those of you out there who are considering taking a step or more down this path.
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  This is a very legitimate
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  reason that if you can and you can afford it,
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  to go ahead and get a passport if you file your affidavit because then that passport is linked to the documentation
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  which was sent in with it by attachment basically,
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  by default,
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  and
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  it's just another little thing that could be important.
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  Don't you think?
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  Unknown: I've got another couple of stories on court stuff that's happening here. Oh. Brent, if I can find these. I didn't want to leave him high. Well,
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  Unknown: let's see.
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  There's a
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  there's a Supreme Court
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  case that came out here last week that's caused a bunch of uproar on the death penalty.
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  Unknown: What did it say, Roger?
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  Unknown: This came from SLAIT,
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  which is a big,
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  you know, left wing
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  operation,
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  and it says they
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  they name and shame all the conservatives.
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  They name them and shame them, Brent, on the Supreme Court for this appalling
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  opinion.
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  But it's Justice Gorsuch appointed by President Trump who gets the credit for overturning sixty years of precedent.
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  On Monday,
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  five justices of the Supreme Court authorized
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  Missouri, right there close to you, to torture
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  a man to death.
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  In the process,
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  they appear to have overruled
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  decades of Eighth Amendment precedents
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  in a quest to let states
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  impose
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  barbaric
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  punishments,
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  including
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  excruciating
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  executions
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  on prisoners.
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  Now this of course is Slate.
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  The court's conservative majority
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  has converted a once
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  fringe view
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  into the law of the land,
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  imperiling dozens
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  of decisions protecting the right of death row inmates
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  as well as juvenile
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  offenders.
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  Its ruling
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  signals the end of an eighth amendment jurisprudence
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  governed by
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  civilized
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  standards quote unquote and the beginning of a new brutal era in American capital punishment. Boy, that sounds sinister,
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  doesn't it?
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  Oh yeah. Oh, it's just I mean,
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  they can paint a picture, can't they? Russell
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  Buck
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  Bucklew, B U C K L E W.
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  Russell Bucklew
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  is a death row inmate in Missouri
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  who suffers from a rare medical condition
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  called
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  cavernous
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  hermogenia.
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  Hell,
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  I can't say all these medical things. It's got some medical term attached to it, okay?
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  Nobody
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  else knows that. Well you wouldn't
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  know if I was mispronouncing
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  Unknown: it or not. So here's what you do, Roger, if you're unsure just act like you know exactly how to do it. Okay. People think it's hard, go ahead. Cavernous
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  Unknown: hermogemia.
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  And due to this unfortunate
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  disorder
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  that I can't pronounce,
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  his body is covered with tumors filled with blood vessels,
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  tumors
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  in black loose neck and
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  throat and lips and ugula which
• 26:45
  make
• 26:46
  difficult for him to breathe.
• 26:48
  They're highly sensitive
• 26:49
  and frequently squirt blood.
• 26:52
  A medical expert,
• 26:54
  Doctor. Joe Zivit,
• 26:56
  has testified that if Missouri
• 26:58
  administers
• 26:59
  a lethal injection to Bucklew, he will die a slow agonizing death. His tumors will rupture and fill his mouth with blood,
• 27:09
  and he will suffocate to death in unbearable
• 27:13
  pain,
• 27:14
  choking and convulsing
• 27:16
  on the gurney
• 27:18
  as he dies.
• 27:20
  Well, maybe the electric chair would sidestep those concerns.
• 27:25
  And it says here, the Mercury News reports that, oh, hold it, I'm not finished yet, Bucklew was convicted
• 27:32
  in the 1996
• 27:33
  murder in Missouri of Michael Sanders,
• 27:37
  who was living with Bucklew's
• 27:39
  former girlfriend,
• 27:41
  miss Stephanie Ray.
• 27:43
  Bucklew fatally shot Sanders at the trailer home,
• 27:47
  kidnapped and raped Ray,
• 27:50
  shot at Sanders' six year old son,
• 27:53
  and wounded a police officer
• 27:55
  before being apprehended according to court papers.
• 27:59
  Gorsuch wrote
• 28:01
  for the court's majority
• 28:03
  that the eighth amendment
• 28:05
  does not guarantee a prisoner a painless death,
• 28:09
  something that of course isn't guaranteed to many people,
• 28:13
  including most victims
• 28:15
  of capital crimes.
• 28:17
  Nice of someone to think of the pain of the victims
• 28:21
  and
• 28:21
  what they went through for a change. Ain't that interesting?
• 28:25
  Nine to one, really? Or eight to one.
• 28:29
  Unknown: Well, that's fascinating case. Of course, it's the way of
• 28:34
  a lot of people that take the exception,
• 28:36
  the remotest exception
• 28:38
  to the rule and
• 28:40
  make that the rule.
• 28:42
  This is a rare disease.
• 28:45
  We don't probably know much about it. I'd say that there was probably, I don't know, but there usually is expert testimony on the other side as to what would happen in the future. We're speculating about the future. I don't know anything about the case. I don't want to weigh in on it. Maybe there's things here that I don't understand
• 29:02
  but he makes a point when he says
• 29:04
  that there is no guarantee of a painless death. There is a guarantee
• 29:09
  of no cruel and unusual punishment.
• 29:12
  A cruel and unusual punishment of course is pretty much of a mush word.
• 29:16
  How do you know what cruel and unusual is? I think that it's safe to say that torture is wrong.
• 29:23
  Matter of fact, I know that's safe. Go ahead Roger, you wanna say something? Yeah, Star Chambers might be an example.
• 29:29
  Well sure. Well they used to cut people's tongues out and they used to brand them on the cheek and and all that.
• 29:36
  Cut their ears off. All those things were done in England
• 29:40
  in the Star Chamber which was the enforcement
• 29:43
  chamber of the people that ran the tax system because they also ran the bank. So that's the way that worked. When I say the bank, whoever the money lender is, the money lenders in any country want to also have control of enforcement of the tax
• 29:56
  laws so that they can make sure and get paid. Yeah and that's way it is in America. Yep. That's the way it is in America too. The Federal Reserve Bank board members
• 30:06
  put up who the three choices the president has to run the Federal Reserve Bank and to run the Treasury Department which is in control of the IRS.
• 30:16
  It's always been that way, it's just that now more people know it and understand it and hopefully in America we'll get to thinking now wait a minute.
• 30:24
  This has happened before and they used to have the High Commission and the Star Chamber and they used them to squelch
• 30:31
  deviation
• 30:33
  of people not wanting to pay taxes
• 30:36
  or and this is an important point too, anyone who didn't follow the state religion because if you're not willing to follow the state religion, you're in that same crowd that doesn't wanna pay state taxes. That always goes together and the High Commission,
• 30:48
  the High Commission in England was part of that.
• 30:52
  You take did you go to church someplace and not have a license to do that? That's what the High Commission and the Star Chamber were about including taxation and we wouldn't have a fifth amendment protection in our constitution of The United States had not the High Commission experiences of Englishmen
• 31:09
  and the Star Chamber
• 31:11
  and the tortures that went on there in the name of
• 31:15
  trying to find out who was a dissenter
• 31:17
  in religious matters,
• 31:19
  we wouldn't have it to be so highly protected in our own country. It had always been part of our common law tradition but it came to the forefront during the Reformation in England and only in England was the Reformation
• 31:32
  of church and government and all the rest of Europe, it was just of church. That's why the Nazism and all those things and the
• 31:39
  communist states arose
• 31:43
  Europe and that didn't happen in England in the same way because the Reformation was a both because the common law was in England but we come back to the Fifth Amendment. It's a common law protected,
• 31:54
  right? They don't have it in Sweden. They don't have a right to remain silent and they don't have the right of free speech. Both of the flip side of the same coin but we have that here and it came about
• 32:03
  because of the tortures that went on in those two places, the Star Chamber and the High Commission with Roger, with what they called the forced oath. In other words, they would force you to take an oath and then they would put you under
• 32:16
  torture to get the information they wanted.
• 32:19
  Unknown: I'm telling you, they're just a really nice bunch of people. Yes, Chris?
• 32:24
  Unknown: Well, I think a material and associated
• 32:27
  or corollary
• 32:29
  consideration
• 32:30
  is that Gorsuch,
• 32:31
  I think if I recall correctly, he was a Bush appointee,
• 32:34
  and he had a significant role in approving
• 32:38
  the torturers
• 32:40
  down in Abu Ghraib and the chaining and
• 32:43
  bush cabals
• 32:45
  interpretations
• 32:46
  where they were doing these abominous acts, taking photographs. They had women
• 32:50
  abusing
• 32:51
  Islam and Mooshalams that were incarcerated down there. Some of them hadn't even been charged with crimes. They were merely political prisoners being
• 33:01
  abducted and high taken
• 33:04
  psychopolitical warfare terrorism hostages down there. And so they could be abused, tortured, sexually violated, and
• 33:11
  psyche driven to react later on and break out into being so called lone wolf
• 33:18
  terrorist of Muslims or
• 33:21
  Islamic faith to wreak havoc on Americans that provoked them to do so in the first place. Well, you know, this is what really aggravated
• 33:29
  Unknown: aggravates me. It has for a long time, and it's one of the reasons that I left the country
• 33:34
  is because you can't challenge them, you can't stop them, they're going to do these things that are absolutely against every moral creed, illegal creed, and everything in the world,
• 33:45
  and I don't want to be represented with those people. And I couldn't vote them out, Wouldn't have made any difference if I did and I voted with my feet because I thought I could do more good from outside back in than I could in staying there. That was just one. There's a lot of reasons I left the country but it makes me sick and it repulses me to see the things that are going on and the things like you just went over, all this crap, Abu Gharib and torturing people and murdering wedding
• 34:17
  parties
• 34:18
  with drones and every other despicable
• 34:22
  sabotean
• 34:23
  thing that's going on with our country because they control the muscle.
• 34:27
  Just like you said, Brent,
• 34:29
  the muscle. Well,
• 34:31
  Unknown: And I had forgotten. I think that I vaguely remember this this particular justice
• 34:37
  taking that attitude toward torture.
• 34:40
  You can't get away with stuff like that. You can kill a man
• 34:45
  if you have to, if he's trying to kill you, but you never ever ever
• 34:50
  torture people.
• 34:51
  And if we have been engaged in that as it
• 34:55
  seems it's positive we have, then the price will come because the consequences
• 34:59
  of law breaking are inevitable
• 35:02
  for a man or for a country.
• 35:04
  So it's a time for Americans
• 35:07
  to get on their faces
• 35:09
  and confess to their maker
• 35:11
  what a bunch of lawless, dirty, lowdown jerks they've allowed their country to become. There is no other way. There is no other way
• 35:18
  to mitigate
• 35:20
  the consequences.
• 35:22
  The consequences of law breaking
• 35:25
  are removed
• 35:27
  only
• 35:28
  by God Himself
• 35:29
  and He doesn't just overlook it and say I'm gonna remove it. He pays the penalty which he did and because he's paid the penalty himself
• 35:38
  of death,
• 35:40
  we can rest easy and we can actually,
• 35:43
  if we are of a mind to confess, that means say the same thing about your law breaking that God says con with fess, just fess up,
• 35:54
  to say the same thing,
• 35:56
  then the remedy is applied to you.
• 35:59
  But if you're not willing to confess it, the remedy never has been applied. I want be clear though Roger, be clear. Confession doesn't bring forgiveness of law breaking.
• 36:09
  Confession
• 36:10
  is the badge that you have been forgiven by the way. God's sovereign in these matters but nonetheless,
• 36:17
  that's what we need to be sensitive to is breaking God's law and torture
• 36:22
  is a breaking of God's law. Never
• 36:25
  in all of written writs of God and throughout the Bible is torture ever
• 36:31
  ever justified.
• 36:33
  Killing is justified but not torture
• 36:36
  and this is the borderline we have to be careful about and by the way, in all of our common law,
• 36:42
  torture
• 36:43
  is never lawful. Never has been. Now the rest of the world, the law of the city torture is the name of the game. Yeah. That's always been lawful. Now torture has gone on here in America and in England and in other common law countries.
• 36:56
  That doesn't make it right and then doesn't mean it's ever been lawful. It isn't.
• 37:00
  Unknown: That's breaking of the law. Back to you Roger. Well and it's interesting, their agenda is just the snake eating its tail. I use
• 37:09
  that example a lot. I got two more cases of it here just to illustrate what I'm talking about. Back in
• 37:15
  1994,
• 37:17
  Brent, there was this, you know,
• 37:19
  this is legitimate,
• 37:20
  certainly passed
• 37:22
  a law,
• 37:23
  Violence Against Women
• 37:25
  Act. It was in 1994
• 37:27
  and for the women that battered,
• 37:30
  know, battering husbands and all that stuff, which is totally despicable,
• 37:34
  but that was certainly a legitimate
• 37:38
  reason for that. But as usual, they've expanded it,
• 37:42
  okay? You know how they press the envelope, get the camel's
• 37:45
  nose under the tent, and then the whole camel's right in there pretty quick.
• 37:50
  It seems that
• 37:51
  what's happening now is the camel's all the way in the tent here because the law to protect women against domestic violence
• 37:59
  with and shelters.
• 38:01
  Guess who they're having to admit?
• 38:05
  Men. Mhmm. Trans? No. No. These aren't men. These are transgendered
• 38:11
  men. Now I'm gonna separate myself from them. Thank you. These are transgendered
• 38:16
  men, but because of the laws gotten so broad, they're having to let them in.
• 38:23
  Unknown: Yeah.
• 38:25
  Listen,
• 38:27
  Chris
• 38:28
  said it a while ago, he was talking about these women down in Cuba
• 38:32
  or someplace
• 38:34
  getting more or somewhere torturing these
• 38:37
  Islamic men
• 38:38
  and
• 38:40
  would need we be reminded
• 38:42
  that when the early Jesuit fathers
• 38:45
  preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
• 38:49
  they prayed to be delivered
• 38:51
  from the vengeance
• 38:52
  of the squaws.
• 38:54
  Twas the women, not the warriors, made those dark enthusiasts
• 38:58
  pale
• 38:59
  for the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
• 39:05
  And
• 39:06
  when you go to the fields of battle even in our own on our own continent,
• 39:11
  the
• 39:13
  mutilations
• 39:14
  that were inflicted by the female of the species
• 39:18
  were beyond description
• 39:20
  and the men that picked up the bodies at the battle, after the battle, the little bighorn attested to that and they'd seen some of those men had seen some awful atrocities during
• 39:31
  the late war between The States.
• 39:34
  Back to you Roger.
• 39:36
  Unknown: Another one of these cases, I like that poem. I remember where'd you quote that poem from?
• 39:43
  Unknown: That's
• 39:44
  called The Female of the Species. He continues at the end of the poem about that.
• 39:49
  He says,
• 39:52
  Scientific
• 39:53
  vivisication
• 39:55
  of one nerve
• 39:56
  till it is raw
• 39:58
  and the victim
• 40:00
  writhes in anguish
• 40:02
  like the Jesuit
• 40:03
  with the squaw. Woah.
• 40:06
  All history.
• 40:07
  It's really that heavy a poem, it's a very insightful poem. When it first appeared in Ladies Home Journal in 1915,
• 40:16
  it was loved. The women loved it and then later in the nineteen sixties,
• 40:20
  it was put away because the people said it was misogynistic.
• 40:23
  That means it was a woman hating poem, but it isn't.
• 40:26
  It's a poem that draws the clear distinction
• 40:29
  between the male and the female, not only of men and women but of
• 40:34
  the Himalayan peasant when he meets the bear and the cobra
• 40:38
  written by Kipling. Kipling grew up in India, so he has these illustrations
• 40:42
  from
• 40:43
  India and other places,
• 40:45
  but he makes the point of why the female of the species
• 40:50
  is more deadly
• 40:52
  than the male.
• 40:54
  When Nag the wayside cobra
• 40:56
  hears the careless foot of man,
• 40:59
  he will often
• 41:01
  wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can, but his mate makes no such motion
• 41:07
  where she camps but beside the trail
• 41:09
  for the female of the species is more deadly than the male. And he goes through the different animals then he makes some illustrations and talks about men and how they're cowards
• 41:20
  and how they they dare not whether
• 41:24
  fear or foolishness impels them, ere they lay the wicked low
• 41:28
  to concede some form of trial even to their fiercest foe.
• 41:33
  Mirth, obscene, diverts their anger, doubt and pity off perplex them in dealing with an issue to the scandal of his sex. It's true.
• 41:43
  Men, women have no such time for mirth.
• 41:46
  They have they don't sit around and tell jokes.
• 41:49
  They can't even remember the jokes to tell and there's a reason for that. They like jokes
• 41:54
  and they laugh at jokes but they don't swap stories
• 41:57
  and waste time because their job is much more serious and without them,
• 42:03
  we wouldn't even be here.
• 42:04
  Not only would we have not been carried to birth but we probably would have died before many months
• 42:10
  if our mothers hadn't had that instinct that didn't have time to be distracted
• 42:14
  by mirth or foolishness. Back to you, Roger.
• 42:17
  Unknown: That's a good poem, very insightful
• 42:20
  too on our roles and what got us there and what separates us. Chris, did you have something to add to that before onto this next little bit of hypocrisy?
• 42:30
  Unknown: Well, as a matter of fact, I do. I I was listening to
• 42:35
  Brent's eloquent soliloquy,
• 42:36
  and I occurred to me that
• 42:39
  it's a symbiotic relationship
• 42:41
  between men and women, and we both have different roles to play in symbiosis one with another to be procreators
• 42:47
  and progenitors
• 42:49
  of our offspring.
• 42:51
  And that they can't function without us. We can't function with them if we all become a
• 42:56
  balphomedic
• 42:59
  sexless
• 43:01
  hermaphrodite
• 43:03
  with organs of both or only
• 43:06
  one set of organs or
• 43:08
  neither male nor female, but a homogenation of the two,
• 43:12
  then we will eventually obliterate our own species here on this planet
• 43:16
  because the ability to procreate will be bred out of us, and that seems to be an agenda that's afoot. It certainly
• 43:23
  Unknown: does. Yeah. That's it. It certainly does. I think there's there well, I don't think it. I know there's something refreshing to people's minds.
• 43:31
  Men and women to hear the truth and say I want to hear somebody say the truth because there's freedom in it and there's satisfaction.
• 43:38
  I
• 43:39
  don't want girls to be like men.
• 43:42
  What a boring ugly
• 43:44
  existence and that they don't want me to be like a woman.
• 43:47
  That would be boring and ugly to them. There's a beauty to family. There's a beauty to children regardless of what the lesbian horrors and the sodomites say. It's not true. It's a lie from the pit of hell. God wants men to be men and women to be women and children to obey their parents and if we don't have that, we won't have a country. We can't have decency.
• 44:08
  Just plain decency in life unless we have the standards
• 44:12
  they become part of who we are and we love them more than we love our own selves.
• 44:17
  And the standards are
• 44:18
  that there is a difference between men and women and it's the most beautiful wonderful arrangement. There is no government. Roger, we're talking about government. There is no government in this world if there isn't government between men and women and if it isn't God's government and His
• 44:32
  division of
• 44:35
  roles
• 44:36
  and jobs and duties
• 44:38
  the
• 44:39
  emphasis that each of our psyches give us, each of us, these two sexes
• 44:44
  and the covenant coming down to the trust settlement of God Himself that He gave to our grandpa Adam and that whole story is the first story
• 44:53
  of human relationships in the Bible of Adam and Eve and what happened there tells the whole story and it gives the answer to absolutely
• 45:02
  every problem that bobs forth from the flux of human relationships.
• 45:05
  Human relationships and that the
• 45:08
  answer is the breakdown of everything arises out of the breakdown between the relationship
• 45:14
  between that
• 45:16
  unity we call man and woman, man and wife, husband and wife. That's where all hell breaks loose out of if there is not right government there and there can't be perfect right government there. Not in this life but we should be working toward it and the only reason I'm here if I have any decency in my life, any, it's just because there were some people around me
• 45:39
  that were
• 45:40
  striving hard to maintain that order and some of them not doing a very good job but still striving hard. That's what makes life possible and decency possible
• 45:51
  and comfort and satisfaction
• 45:53
  possible
• 45:53
  is to have folk that are willing to do that.
• 45:57
  Back to you Chris or Roger. Well, I'll just say Michael,
• 46:01
  Unknown: one of our newer listeners, he's a naturalized American. He's Brit by birth and he just joined us. Hey Michael, how are doing today?
• 46:11
  Well, I guess he's doing alright. He can't get to his mute button or something. If you just want to listen in the background, that's okay.
• 46:19
  Unknown: There you are. There's somebody. Is that you, Mike? Yes, good morning and thanks for asking. I'm well and how are you all? Good, thank you.
• 46:28
  Good, good,
• 46:29
  Unknown: that's good. Okay, we're just pontificating
• 46:32
  some of the events of the day.
• 46:36
  Is the other I'll just be a new one. Okay, this is the other example of
• 46:41
  it's funny when they get caught in trap. See, this happens right now in this great state of Mississippi,
• 46:48
  okay, who back before the Civil War, don't forget,
• 46:52
  Mississippi and South Carolina
• 46:54
  vied back and forth for the highest per capita income in the country
• 46:59
  of any state. Now
• 47:02
  there goes my dogs barking again. Hope that's not distracting you. Yeah, I'm a hear it. Okay, good.
• 47:09
  Mississippi
• 47:10
  has, back in the 80s,
• 47:12
  they were still a little more segregationist,
• 47:15
  I guess,
• 47:16
  they had a problem with a
• 47:19
  black legislator
• 47:20
  let's see if I can get the whole story here
• 47:25
  it's about boycotts anyway, and they tried to boycott this black guy,
• 47:30
  and the
• 47:32
  black guy who I believe had been elected
• 47:34
  took the case all the way to the Supreme Court,
• 47:37
  and it came back, of course, that they couldn't do that because of the discrimination.
• 47:43
  But with that as a history, now they're trying to pass BDS
• 47:47
  legislation.
• 47:50
  Now, I tell you where the line in the there's gonna be a line in the sand for us with this little bastard state
• 47:58
  that we support over there. You guys say something for a second. Let me stop these dogs.
• 48:03
  Unknown: I think that,
• 48:05
  Brent would be supportive of the James one eight,
• 48:09
  a double minded man is a unsound mind and certain all their ways when they change positions
• 48:14
  based upon the political
• 48:15
  winds that are blowing no good.
• 48:18
  And it's
• 48:19
  it's pretty preposterous to claim on one side you're against something,
• 48:23
  and then
• 48:24
  a couple of months later to claim you're for it and that teaches and speaks very clearly to their duality,
• 48:31
  their
• 48:32
  split minds, their political agendas that they're posing as public opinion.
• 48:38
  Unknown: Oh, no question.
• 48:40
  Unknown: They Go ahead, press the envelope. You see,
• 48:43
  here's kind of what happens, I think, is everything God's got a plan and things go along in like
• 48:49
  the flow of a river.
• 48:51
  And in this case,
• 48:53
  with those plans, it's a nice,
• 48:55
  slow moving,
• 48:56
  pretty even flow river. Well,
• 48:59
  guys go in there and they try and deviate the water out of there. So they try and block it somehow and get more water going over to one side. It happens in the Mississippi,
• 49:08
  you know, you'll know what I'm talking about. And that water eddies over to the offside
• 49:13
  and pretty soon it comes right back around in circles and meets with the other one and the snake eats its tail. And that's what's happening in their agenda in virtually every vector today
• 49:24
  that I see.
• 49:25
  Comment.
• 49:27
  Unknown: Oh, that's right. Oxbow Lakes, that's what they call them in the Mississippi Valley
• 49:32
  where the hairpin of the river gets
• 49:35
  so acute that it finally joins and forms a cut off and the water, instead of going around the hairpin, just runs straight across and leaves the hairpin, builds a levee against it and there are thousands of those all through the valleys of not only the Mississippi
• 49:50
  but
• 49:51
  the Wabash has a lot of them and its lower reaches down
• 49:55
  where it forms the border between the Illinois and Indiana.
• 49:59
  But
• 50:00
  that's what happens to the evil empire. It has to be circular.
• 50:03
  I was in a federal case once where a very left wing US attorney
• 50:10
  who otherwise would say there is no difference between men and women,
• 50:13
  that women have the right to do any blasted thing they want, especially they have the right to contract on their own. I mean who would say that? They don't. But in this case, it was not convenient to him to get the prosecution he wanted. So he said
• 50:27
  to the jury that the woman could not serve
• 50:31
  as a
• 50:33
  trustee of a trust arrangement
• 50:36
  and that
• 50:37
  her husband
• 50:38
  was also
• 50:39
  trustee
• 50:40
  because she couldn't do that. Trying to get at the husband, see, to get him in a criminal prosecution
• 50:46
  and to be indicted and all and said that the
• 50:49
  woman doesn't have the right to contract on her own. It wasn't convenient for him at that point so that's what he said. Well that's constantly the way it is with evil empire. Jesus Christ did not say,
• 51:03
  Depart from me ye who practice another law.
• 51:06
  He said, depart from me ye who practice
• 51:10
  lawlessness.
• 51:12
  There's a difference between people that are committed to a false law as many are and those that are not committed to any law at all. They'll just do whatever is convenient for the moment. Now I would say that most people are tempted that way, have done that and some people are wholly committed to that point of view. Some people call it situational ethics but that's too nice.
• 51:33
  This is just I'm gonna fill my lust and take care of myself no matter what. Oh yeah, I say I believe the Bible. When it comes down to it, this part doesn't apply to me right now because I don't think it'll work. And that's not the way the true law giver operates.
• 51:48
  He just says, you break my law and you're gonna suffer
• 51:51
  these consequences over here. You keep it and you will suffer. You will get these good consequences over here. It just depends upon what you want to do. But there's no
• 52:02
  talking about a person that is not following true law.
• 52:06
  Let's put it this way, if he's not following true law, not committed to it, he is lawless.
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  And that's the way these folk are. Well, they just change the rules as they go. We used to say that when we were kids. Just make up the rules in the baseball game or the checker game as you go and children do that
• 52:22
  because it's convenient for them.
• 52:24
  Unknown: Well, that's what we're up against today. We're up against people in what we call government that are changing the rules as they go. Now it well, back to you, Ryan. Well, Brent, I was just I got a perfect illustration of what you're talking about. There's this bulldog prosecutor up there. Mueller has had him. He was one that handled Enron and put
• 52:42
  440,000
• 52:44
  people out of jail, I mean out of work at Anderson,
• 52:48
  the accounting
• 52:49
  firm.
• 52:51
  He is evidently an absolute
• 52:54
  mad dog prosecutor.
• 52:55
  His name's Weissman,
• 52:57
  just like Chris just said
• 52:59
  and those people get rewarded in that system up there.
• 53:04
  Unknown: Oh sure. Show me, said president Roosevelt. Get my legal beagles together and show me how to get around
• 53:12
  the constitution of The United States and they did.
• 53:16
  Well, here's what you can do president Roosevelt.
• 53:18
  You can just pack as many Supreme Court justices in there as you want because there's nothing in the constitution that says how many Supreme Court justices there are gonna be. So you can just go ahead and break
• 53:28
  this unwritten rule. Don't
• 53:30
  worry about the common law. Don't worry about that. Just do whatever you want. Brent, they're wanting to do it again.
• 53:36
  Oh, they're talking that way again? Yes.
• 53:38
  Unknown: Absolutely.
• 53:40
  Who's talking that way? Well, who do you think? The Democrats, of course.
• 53:44
  The Sabbateans
• 53:46
  in disguise.
• 53:48
  Unknown: Mhmm.
• 53:50
  Well, it just comes down to what what what go ahead, Chris.
• 53:53
  Unknown: Go ahead. Well, your
• 53:55
  commentary about favoring
• 53:57
  the females in that particular
• 54:00
  story.
• 54:01
  It very closely parallels an incident that
• 54:04
  I experienced when this soiree was trying to reindict me again on a different thing on this traffic matter. And I I had the let's call it some
• 54:15
  legal savvy to
• 54:17
  point out to the court, which was a judge, a Chinese judge, Cynthia S. Woon,
• 54:22
  that the court and all the women in there would certainly support the time on their doctrine
• 54:27
  of a woman being able to change their mind at any moment.
• 54:31
  You know, I was claiming the me too doctrine that I had changed my mind,
• 54:36
  whenever I was pulled into that, seven Eleven to get a cold drink, and I did not drive through with the intent to evade a traffic control device at all, but my
• 54:45
  identification of circumstances that caused me to change my position
• 54:49
  and to appear to the untrained, unsophisticated
• 54:52
  eye that I was traveling through was pretty
• 54:55
  absurd that he could invent intent for me that I was intentionally doing so, and therefore, did not have an intent. And I saw the prosecutor's
• 55:03
  body language,
• 55:05
  her disheveled
• 55:06
  appearance
• 55:08
  testified that she knew she was licked at that point, which I thought was
• 55:12
  Unknown: boding well for my defense. You better watch out. If you keep using language like that, you'll be classified with mister Biden.
• 55:20
  Unknown: Legal terrorist.
• 55:23
  Unknown: You don't I'm amazed. You don't go licking.
• 55:26
  You don't go licking the prosecution,
• 55:28
  Chris.
• 55:29
  You defeat them. Go ahead, bro.
• 55:32
  Unknown: I'd like.
• 55:36
  Unknown: Hell, Chris is probably out there at one of them honky tonks dancing with her on a Friday or Saturday night knowing him. He's like the radio Ranches John Travolta.
• 55:47
  Unknown: No. No.
• 55:49
  Unknown: You better get out of there, Chris. That's what I'm saying. I'd like to get out of here if I can get this behind me. Well, they're gonna they're not gonna extradite you from another state for driving through a parking lot, are they?
• 56:02
  Well, you'd hope not, but these people, they're liable to do any darn thing. Well, it's true. They'd have to get cooperation from the other states. Know, I know there are thousands, I mean hundreds of thousands of people in America that are wanted in other states but most states won't extradite.
• 56:19
  That means bring you back, spend the money to go get you, gotta go into court, go through an extradition hearing. They won't do that
• 56:26
  for things that are less than major felonies
• 56:29
  and so people just say I'm tired of dealing with this and they go to another state and you can go to the internet and see what states are in the habit of extraditing for and
• 56:38
  it comes down to money. Yeah, I remember having a client one time was wanted in
• 56:46
  California
• 56:47
  and out there are hundreds of thousands of people wanted in California that just aren't there and they haven't extradited them because it's a petty offense like driving through a parking lot. Well that's petty. That's so blasted petty, it's the low end of petty and
• 57:03
  I doubt if they'd bother you at all. You know, the wonderful thing that we live in a country, far as I know, we're the only country in the world like this where it's truly
• 57:12
  we're all sovereign, the states are still have that measure of sovereignty and you can go from one to another and the only way you can get extradited is if the judge in that state, if you go to an extradition
• 57:22
  here, in demand one, the judge has to be convinced
• 57:25
  that there's probable cause that you've committed a crime or there's some official reason why or you've had due process and I've been to hearings like that where the judge says no.
• 57:35
  You weren't afforded due process in that other state and I'm not gonna turn you over to them. You boys go pack up your bags and head back home
• 57:43
  and I've been in extradition hearings
• 57:45
  for people wanted in Canada
• 57:48
  and the question was, was due process observed in the Canadian province?
• 57:52
  And judge down here in The States says no and the people up in Canada, the judges up there have the same privilege if they want to the same duty. You've got to make a decision. Judges have to make a decision. Has due process been followed? If it hadn't,
• 58:08
  then and I'll tell you, was involved in a case, another case months where
• 58:13
  it was a fellow's wanted in another state
• 58:16
  and
• 58:17
  he said, well should I go out and just submit myself? And one well known criminal defense lawyer had said yes. I said, well that didn't make sense to me knowing those folks out there are crazy and dangerous
• 58:28
  and I know people can relate to that. The judges are dangerous
• 58:32
  and
• 58:33
  the idea was I said,
• 58:35
  you know,
• 58:36
  why make it easy for them? If they want you,
• 58:40
  let them come and get you. And there was a famous episode with Tarzan with Johnny Weissmueller
• 58:45
  where
• 58:47
  I can't remember what the situation was, but these Englishmen were there and they were posing this question to Tarzan
• 58:54
  about what would you do if these fellows said they were gonna come and get you? And he said,
• 59:00
  well
• 59:01
  they thought he would say he would go get them. He said, well I just obliged them to come get me. Come get me. I'm certainly not gonna go looking for them. And in The United States, that's not bad advice
• 59:12
  in many cases and
• 59:14
  again, thank God we live in a country where we have separate sovereignties.
• 59:18
  There is still a measure of sovereignty and we have doctrines that we could use to our advantage here in our own country. Roger or Chris? Brent, yeah, you said a couple of things. Triggered me earlier talking about the states
• 59:29
  Unknown: versus the federal scope and now this.
• 59:33
  One of my law teachers,
• 59:35
  a guy, when he wasn't formally trained, but he probably knew more about the law than most attorneys, I promise you. Gary Bryant was his name. Maybe some of you have come across Gary's work.
• 59:47
  He used to hammer into me all property law is state law.
• 59:53
  Uh-huh.
• 59:54
  That's right. Now, well, it's
• 59:56
  mostly right, except now we learn through the fourteenth Amendment that the federales have little property interest going on too.
• 1:00:04
  But as a general rule, Gary's statement, I think, is
• 1:00:08
  correct,
• 1:00:09
  you agree and that gives
• 1:00:13
  it a degree of sovereignty right there over the property within the boundaries.
• 1:00:19
  True,
• 1:00:21
  Unknown: especially land,
• 1:00:22
  real estate
• 1:00:23
  and land. There's a slight difference between the two, real estate being land that's been developed a little bit somehow improved
• 1:00:29
  upon, whereas land is just
• 1:00:32
  stresses the idea that it's land, but especially that and that's part of our common law tradition. Land is a local concern. That means within the state, registered within the county, etc. Now when he said property rights are always state rights,
• 1:00:44
  that
• 1:00:45
  is true like you say by and large but of course there are rights we have that are not tangible and as Jefferson said, we have property
• 1:00:53
  in our rights and we have rights in our property. As a matter of fact, tangible property such as land consist of a bundle of rights. That's the way our law has always said it. You have the surface rights, the mineral rights, the easement rights, the farming rights, the water rights,
• 1:01:08
  oh yeah, all that. Well
• 1:01:11
  all of those things are true but by and large, for all practical purposes,
• 1:01:15
  all property rights are a matter of state court enforcement.
• 1:01:20
  Even if you're on Roger, even if you're on federal land,
• 1:01:24
  Bureau of Land Management land
• 1:01:26
  and you have a mining claim under the mining law of 1872,
• 1:01:30
  you've claimed
• 1:01:31
  mineral rights,
• 1:01:32
  those mineral rights are not enforced in the federal courts. No, you enforce those in the state courts. Really? That's actually a matter. Oh yeah, everybody in the mining business knows that because that's
• 1:01:42
  a property right and the state courts, by the way, remember, the state courts are courts of unlimited jurisdiction.
• 1:01:49
  Unlimited.
• 1:01:50
  If you got a problem, the state court has a duty to give you a remedy if there isn't one already on the books and of course now if it's a question
• 1:01:59
  over which federal courts could have jurisdiction, either party can remove it to a federal court and you don't ask permission to do that and you don't make a motion to do it, you just do it and you fight it out on the upper level
• 1:02:10
  Unknown: if there's a question But it's a property right. Oh, go ahead. Chris? A caveat. And that's under the article one section eight clause 17 enumerated powers
• 1:02:20
  of federal government to own lands within the corporate states they like ultimately then
• 1:02:25
  And, of course, they put the caveat in Torrey in there that's not withstanding concurrent
• 1:02:31
  federal state
• 1:02:32
  selective
• 1:02:33
  elective jurisdictional
• 1:02:35
  contemplations
• 1:02:35
  and felony criminal prosecutions exclusively.
• 1:02:39
  That's a very important consideration that comes to play
• 1:02:44
  in private grants of land made patent line with the in the boundaries of the physical coterminate
• 1:02:51
  corporate state that they are
• 1:02:54
  lying within.
• 1:02:55
  May I also bring a really important
• 1:02:58
  differentiation.
• 1:03:00
  Unknown: Also bring in force arsenals and needful buildings, and I know that exact verbiage That is article one thing. Is it's in the Georgia State Constitution.
• 1:03:09
  And
• 1:03:10
  if people don't know, I'd be shocked if anybody in this audience didn't, but anytime you step into a post office, you're in Washington, D. C,
• 1:03:19
  supposedly,
• 1:03:20
  if
• 1:03:21
  you've got a mailbox on your property,
• 1:03:24
  that jurisdiction extends at least to that mailbox
• 1:03:27
  because if you go out and damage somebody,
• 1:03:30
  it's not the people that bring
• 1:03:32
  you to
• 1:03:33
  justice, it's the feds for destroying
• 1:03:36
  federal property.
• 1:03:40
  Unknown: Ellis Presley made that clear,
• 1:03:42
  you better not mess with The US mail. That's right.
• 1:03:48
  Unknown: The other thing I wanted to say, Brent, was the way the founders originally
• 1:03:52
  had the country set up with a limited federal government
• 1:03:56
  and the states in their own autonomous
• 1:03:58
  control,
• 1:04:00
  then it's like what's
• 1:04:02
  going California right now. California is getting very oppressive. Work's hard to find. It's getting expensive. There's all kinds of junkies and homeless everywhere, and people are leaving. Okay? I mean, in droves. Illinois,
• 1:04:13
  New York too, New Jersey also, those four principal states. And that's the way that the founders drew the country up. If one state did things better, then the people would migrate over there and it was a way for the states to achieve
• 1:04:29
  positive results
• 1:04:30
  in competing with each other.
• 1:04:34
  Unknown: No question.
• 1:04:35
  No question.
• 1:04:36
  What a setup and a beautiful one. Yes. And people are leaving for example Illinois
• 1:04:41
  in droves.
• 1:04:42
  I mean by the thousands
• 1:04:44
  and the same thing's going on in California as you know.
• 1:04:47
  States that are gaining right now are
• 1:04:50
  the ones in the Rocky Mountains. For the first time in our history,
• 1:04:54
  we are now populating,
• 1:04:55
  really populating the Rocky Mountains. States, we've never done that. Right. We know it was West Coast, East Coast. The middle states by the way are paying people.
• 1:05:04
  Oh well, I shouldn't say it. Yeah they are. You can get land in Kansas and Nebraska for nothing.
• 1:05:09
  They'll give it to you because it's becoming so desolate in those places. I've even seen some things North Dakota, South Dakota where
• 1:05:17
  they'll pay, give land to lawyers to come there because there are no lawyers in some of these counties because there's no money there. There are no people there but the people that are there would like to have legal representation and help drawing up deeds, whatever they got without having to drive 400 mile.
• 1:05:34
  So they've
• 1:05:35
  got programs to try to give people they're equivalent in a way to small homestead laws. They'll give you a lot in a little town or few acres to build a house.
• 1:05:45
  You know,
• 1:05:46
  we were watching those videos
• 1:05:49
  that somebody
• 1:05:50
  recommended. I can't remember. Somebody on your program here, Europa was one of them. Yes. But it made the point that
• 1:05:58
  in Germany,
• 1:06:00
  in order to encourage, what they wanted to do was encourage their own people and they wanted to separate themselves from the international communist
• 1:06:08
  that without
• 1:06:10
  a country, without a land and they said well we like the idea of socialism but we want to combine it to ourselves and try our own experiment
• 1:06:18
  and so they did things like they wanted the population to grow so the government in Germany told mothers, if you will have children, we'll give you a lot of money. Every child you have, we'll give you more and they did that and the population began to grow.
• 1:06:33
  That's incentive.
• 1:06:35
  I'm not saying we should do that here but I'm making the Yeah, well we should We
• 1:06:42
  not
• 1:06:43
  burden them
• 1:06:44
  more and that's what we're doing. Don't burden mothers for having shelter. Make it harder. Right. Just leave them alone but then we're not even doing that. We're discouraging
• 1:06:53
  to having them children and we will go down before go ahead. Putin recently
• 1:06:59
  Unknown: made a public announcement, if you have three children, they'll give you $14,000
• 1:07:05
  Unknown: Yeah, so what are they Yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:07
  So listen,
• 1:07:09
  Unknown: go ahead. Go ahead Chris. I was only going to say that I'm seeing policies
• 1:07:14
  of government
• 1:07:15
  and lack thereof in particular
• 1:07:18
  that are actually using to be drive the herds out of particular areas to give the illusion of abandonment,
• 1:07:26
  perhaps actual abandonment in some cases.
• 1:07:29
  But if you can drive the people off the land by deprivation
• 1:07:33
  or not doing your duty to maintain the infrastructure and to expose them to hazards
• 1:07:39
  like the dams collapsing in California,
• 1:07:41
  so to speak,
• 1:07:43
  which are really because of not neglected really being allowed to degrade the point of imploding or collapsing
• 1:07:50
  by
• 1:07:51
  governmental policy design by diverting the monies for maintaining those that are supposed to be spending to be diverted to other policies like supporting migrants
• 1:08:01
  and people who really don't deserve the benefit. Chris, you missed the most you
• 1:08:05
  Unknown: missed the most egregious one out of the whole list you laid out, which is having blue lasers dance around your house.
• 1:08:13
  Unknown: Well, yeah, that's in the fires up in the campfire area where they were using directed energy weapons exactly
• 1:08:19
  to burn people out of their homes up there in the northern part of the the state,
• 1:08:24
  which is exactly where the dams are at also. But this is a really dangerous
• 1:08:29
  concept when the government becomes a terrorist to drive people off the lands to bring in other
• 1:08:35
  aspects of society. They might want to,
• 1:08:38
  under the migration invasion scheme,
• 1:08:41
  invade this country into the
• 1:08:43
  guys that the people have left the land so they need to bring in other inhabitants to provide a tax base and perhaps an invasion force.
• 1:08:52
  Unknown: Well, I think the invasion force is already there.
• 1:08:58
  Unknown: We're going through
• 1:09:00
  Revelation on Sunday mornings.
• 1:09:03
  The book Revelation,
• 1:09:04
  the last book of the Bible.
• 1:09:07
  There's a statement there
• 1:09:09
  that
• 1:09:10
  tells the story of the purpose
• 1:09:12
  of mankind
• 1:09:14
  and he says to mankind in that book Revelation,
• 1:09:18
  he says,
• 1:09:20
  because you have wasted,
• 1:09:22
  that's the way I'd translate it, wasted the land,
• 1:09:27
  I shall waste you.
• 1:09:30
  You have wasted the land,
• 1:09:32
  therefore I shall waste you.
• 1:09:35
  And
• 1:09:36
  at common law, waste doesn't mean you go out and destroy things.
• 1:09:41
  Waste
• 1:09:42
  is
• 1:09:43
  letting things alone till they just dilapidate and fall down and get run down. And land
• 1:09:49
  is, if you're a trustee of land and you don't take care of it, you don't actively
• 1:09:54
  keep it up, that's called waste and it's actionable. You can be sued for that by beneficiaries for instance.
• 1:10:01
  Well, that's what God says. I don't want you wasting the land. I don't want you just letting it go. I want you to take care of it. I want you to husband the land
• 1:10:10
  and if we as Americans, this is true for all mankind,
• 1:10:13
  if we as Americans do not husband our
• 1:10:16
  land, whatever responsibility we have, whatever we can do, then we will be wasted.
• 1:10:23
  He will waste us.
• 1:10:25
  He will let us run down. He will destroy us.
• 1:10:28
  That's the fundamental principle of the whole Bible starting
• 1:10:32
  with our grandpa getting thrown off the Garden of Eden. He was given a partial of real estate and he wasted it and so he was thrown off and the Israelites
• 1:10:41
  were given a partial of real estate called the land of Canaan, today known as Palestine
• 1:10:46
  and they wasted it on more than one occasion, defiled it and they were thrown off, thrown out and then finally in seventy AD,
• 1:10:54
  they were terminally thrown out and we are not to be so arrogant
• 1:10:59
  and presumptuous as to think that it wouldn't or couldn't happen to us.
• 1:11:03
  It can and it will.
• 1:11:06
  Remember,
• 1:11:07
  you said Jesus Christ, three words, remember
• 1:11:10
  Lot's wife. I'm reminded that often. Remember Lot's wife. And she left Sodom but she couldn't help but look back and she's dead.
• 1:11:20
  You gotta get out of that
• 1:11:22
  packing and stacking place and the law. You know, it comes down to just simply doing what you're told. When hell is on its way, if you are in the place where hell is gonna fall, it's gonna fall on you. You gotta get out of that place. Yep. Like Las Vegas, Chris. You gotta get out of there. Hell's fault. Well,
• 1:11:40
  better pack your
• 1:11:42
  Unknown: yeah. He's trying. I appreciate your counsel.
• 1:11:45
  That sounds a lot like Pyramason's
• 1:11:47
  counsel, registering your own name, but find someplace else to hang out for a while. I don't
• 1:11:54
  disregard that. I tell him that all the time.
• 1:11:58
  Yeah. I
• 1:11:59
  was gonna point out, I think, that's relevant.
• 1:12:02
  He said this is really not just a traffic matter, and I've been making the case
• 1:12:08
  continually throughout the thing. This was a special operations by the Joint Terrorism Task Force stalking me, particularly looking for a pretext to provoke me to violence so they could murder me. Title 18 USC
• 1:12:20
  one one one seven's conspiracy to commit murder.
• 1:12:23
  And it goes back even to where you were talking about the black widow syndrome or the female species being more lethal
• 1:12:30
  of her colluding with the police or being induced or,
• 1:12:35
  coerced, terrorized,
• 1:12:37
  bribed, or threatened,
• 1:12:38
  to cooperate with them under the guise of voluntary
• 1:12:41
  participation
• 1:12:42
  being drug in to give evidence against me in the first place to fabricate a false claim to alleviate
• 1:12:48
  the county's manifest monstrous
• 1:12:51
  liability for false arrest and false incarceration.
• 1:12:55
  And the fact that they came out and did an egregious abuse of deadly force to steal property, and this invokes this new
• 1:13:02
  nine o en banc decision in the Supreme Court in Tyler Tims versus Illinois,
• 1:13:08
  another corrupt state, of course, and I think probably
• 1:13:11
  a political reactive solution to
• 1:13:14
  this negative asset seizure of expansive financial
• 1:13:19
  resources under pretextual minuscule fines,
• 1:13:22
  much the same as in that particular case there at my home.
• 1:13:26
  And so
• 1:13:28
  Unknown: Go ahead. Ahead. No. I want you to finish. There was a good case in Pennsylvania on this asset fees seizures or the other stuff that just recent this week. Go ahead, Chris. And if we need to, we can talk about it.
• 1:13:42
  Unknown: Well, I'm very interested in hearing about that Pennsylvania case. I track all these things, and that Tyler Kims
• 1:13:49
  was not inconsequential
• 1:13:51
  because they cited particularly eighth amendment cruel and unusual punishments and taking
• 1:13:56
  huge resources under the scope of minuscule violations or traffic infractions in particular. Like parking on your own private property for one.
• 1:14:06
  It's pretty insane. This
• 1:14:08
  Unknown: case in Pennsylvania that the judge overturned was on a police
• 1:14:12
  outfit
• 1:14:14
  doing the seizure stuff,
• 1:14:16
  and they got a guy for heroin or something. I think he just had it in his house and was using it. I don't remember from the article, but regardless,
• 1:14:23
  they came in and they see these big 60 inches TV screens and they went out and they got a Mercedes.
• 1:14:32
  He had seven cars
• 1:14:33
  and they got a Mercedes and a Chevy Nova or something.
• 1:14:37
  And when the judge went in and examined it, cars were not used in him acquiring or dispensing drugs.
• 1:14:45
  Okay?
• 1:14:46
  The So judge went in and you know what they found between the commonality
• 1:14:50
  between the Mercedes and the Nova of all the seven cars?
• 1:14:57
  Unknown: All of them. They
• 1:15:00
  Unknown: didn't have a lien against them.
• 1:15:04
  And
• 1:15:07
  he overturned the whole thing and admonished them real good, Chris. If I'd have known you were saving those articles, I'd have saved it. It was over on
• 1:15:14
  what really happened. I think I saw it last night.
• 1:15:18
  So, anyway, the the worms changing around a little bit. People, you know, we're seeing some of these court decisions come that I don't believe we'd have seen ten, twelve years ago,
• 1:15:28
  okay? Do you sense that too, Brent?
• 1:15:31
  Unknown: Oh, yeah.
• 1:15:33
  No question, this whole civil fortune.
• 1:15:36
  What in the world? They're pulling this stuff out of their wazoos. I get it's
• 1:15:42
  so crazy. You don't even want to talk about, You know it's a fiction that comes out of Admiralty Law. It's ancient. Ancient fiction. Private theft. As if you get a ship, if a ship comes into port and they
• 1:15:54
  find smuggled goods on board, then they can just take the whole ship because the ship is guilty somehow.
• 1:16:01
  That comes from our pagan past. That's not a Christian Yeah,
• 1:16:05
  the ship is guilty. It's ancient. Babylonian, That's go called in rim jurisdiction,
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  Unknown: correct?
• 1:16:11
  Unknown: Well, yeah. You know we used to read these old cases in law school.
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  The state of
• 1:16:18
  Michigan
• 1:16:19
  versus a 1936
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  Plymouth Cadillac. Right.
• 1:16:24
  I thought when I first saw that I thought, what in the world's that all about? Well you come to find out back during prohibition,
• 1:16:30
  if you were using a car to run moonshine
• 1:16:33
  or white mule as they used to call it, then
• 1:16:37
  you could confiscate that as though the thing were guilty of something. We'll see this whole madness that inanimate objects,
• 1:16:45
  non persons, even animals
• 1:16:47
  have mind, will and emotion and can be guilty of crime
• 1:16:50
  it has crept into our whole thinking to where our presidents now declare war on things and not people. Yeah. War on poverty, war on crime or drugs,
• 1:17:01
  war on
• 1:17:02
  whatever
• 1:17:03
  and then talk about guns as though somebody
• 1:17:07
  said to me the other day, well the problem is it'd be like sheep seeing a wolf kill one of their flock and say well you know what we need to do? We need to all extract our teeth because teeth are the problem. So all the sheep go out and extract their teeth. Well that's the madness of what they're doing saying, we're gonna take guns from all these law
• 1:17:25
  abiding citizens. We're gonna do that because that's the problem. Well the guns aren't the problem. That is simple and silly as it sounds to some people, guns don't kill people. That's true. They don't. People, men are evil. Men are the ones that are the problem. Evil doesn't it's the whole idea too of this as though evil
• 1:17:42
  floats around in the air and attaches to things and is an abstract
• 1:17:47
  concept that's
• 1:17:48
  dangerous.
• 1:17:49
  It's not.
• 1:17:50
  Evil is not an abstract concept. What do I mean when I say that? I mean evil is what men are. That's the problem. Men are evil and they get worse and when they get bad enough, reach a certain level, we got to do something about it. And we're not attacking things
• 1:18:05
  and that's like
• 1:18:07
  to use another analogy, I used to walk the fields, the bean fields and I'd have a
• 1:18:13
  corn knife and my father would have a corn knife, my brother would have a corn knife
• 1:18:18
  and my brother and I'd see a cuckle bur and we'd whack her down, get her down closer, we just whack her off and dad said, now wait a minute boys, that won't work. Why not? Well, you're not you're just dealing with the thing.
• 1:18:30
  Gotta hack it out. You gotta pull it out by the roots and not only that, after you pull it out by the roots, you can't lay it back down on the ground because the roots will crawl back into the soil and the thing will pop back up again and they do. A couple brewers do that. We had to had to pull them out by the roots and lay them on top of the bean rows. That's the only way you can kill a cucklebird and if you're foolish enough to hack off limbs or just hack the thing off
• 1:18:53
  and not chop it out, pull it out by the root and then lay it up where the root can't get back to the ground and if you're foolish enough to go after things instead of men, if you're foolish enough to try to destroy an ideology by killing people as we did in Vietnam or as we did in Korea, you're wasting your time.
• 1:19:11
  Ideologies aren't the problem.
• 1:19:13
  Men are the problem and it comes back
• 1:19:17
  recognizing
• 1:19:19
  this something we have lost since the Reformation.
• 1:19:22
  The Reformation taught us and brought back to our understanding as a people that we are the problem.
• 1:19:28
  We have met the enemy and he is us.
• 1:19:31
  It's me, it's me, it's me, oh Lord, standing in the need of prayer, the old song used to say. I heard a fellow talking yesterday on YouTube and he was saying, you know what I learned growing up? I learned that my biggest problem is me.
• 1:19:44
  And if your biggest problem isn't you,
• 1:19:47
  then you're not gonna do well because
• 1:19:50
  you're constantly gonna be blaming your problems on others things or other people but it comes back to the
• 1:19:58
  imperfections that I have or my problem. That's why the Bible says, I said a while ago, that Mark, one of the chief badges of having been born from above is
• 1:20:07
  that you are a persistent
• 1:20:09
  confessor
• 1:20:10
  of your law breaking. The Bible says of Daniel the prophet that three times a day, he'd be out on the balcony there wherever he did it speaking three things, speaking
• 1:20:21
  and praying and confessing his sins. Now here's a man in the Bible of which we have nothing recorded anywhere that we know of of any fault that he ever had
• 1:20:31
  But yet he says, he was speaking and praying, confessing his sins. You don't have to do it to other men. Start with just doing it to your maker. You'd be surprised
• 1:20:40
  what it will do for your life and your satisfaction
• 1:20:43
  and your psyche. They say confession is good for the soul and guilt is the gift that keeps on giving and it does. It doesn't stop.
• 1:20:51
  Guilt is to the soul what pain is to the body. Use it. Respond to it properly and agree with your maker that you're falling short of what he wants you to do because you are. You have and you'll continue to do it and keep saying it and the only way he can ever bring adjustment to your life and make it better is if you're willing number one to admit it to him. No, not to yourself.
• 1:21:12
  Unknown: To him. That's what it says. And admitting it to yourself is not enough. Back to you, Roger. You're saying that we all need a Jewish mother so we can get that guilt heaped on us?
• 1:21:25
  Unknown: I
• 1:21:27
  don't know that they actually take that point of view about their own depravity.
• 1:21:32
  There
• 1:21:34
  is no overestimating
• 1:21:36
  the blackness
• 1:21:37
  of the heart of the individual man and woman.
• 1:21:40
  Period.
• 1:21:41
  And if you aren't willing to accept that, that tells me you're not born from above. Yeah man, so Because that's what God said. Yeah, oh, desperately wicked says Jeremiah and that's problem. What is desperately wicked? That doesn't mean it looks wicked. That doesn't mean that you can't do things that are good on the human level. It doesn't mean that you're not a benefactor
• 1:22:00
  to your society. It means you can do nothing good that will bring you any favor with your Maker. That's what depravity means. It doesn't mean you can't do good on the human level. Back to Garage. I remember hearing the old saying, Brent, that when you point one finger out, there's three pointing back at you.
• 1:22:19
  Unknown: Yeah. And I'm gonna point the finger at Samuel because he joined us a minute ago and I hadn't even got to recognize him. He's one of our newer he's not a new listener, but he's a newer participant and he's in the process of moving on this paperwork and stuff. Hey, Samuel, how are doing today?
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  Unknown: Hi, Roger. Good.
• 1:22:36
  I had a couple questions for Brent.
• 1:22:39
  I was wondering if there's like an association
• 1:22:43
  of
• 1:22:44
  common law lawyers throughout the land where maybe I could contact
• 1:22:49
  somebody close to me that
• 1:22:51
  in his thinking and understanding?
• 1:22:55
  Unknown: No.
• 1:22:57
  Just to
• 1:22:59
  elaborate a All little bit on
• 1:23:01
  lawyers in common law countries are common lawyers.
• 1:23:04
  Most of them don't know that and most of them never heard the word. There was a time in the history of our
• 1:23:10
  common law world where all lawyers were called commoners.
• 1:23:14
  Commoners,
• 1:23:15
  that's short for common lawyer and all lawyers of law, the city countries which are most of the countries in the world were called civilians.
• 1:23:23
  There were civilians
• 1:23:24
  and there were commoners.
• 1:23:26
  Civilian is a word that derives from the Latin word that has to do with the civilis, the civilis, civilization, the city belonging
• 1:23:33
  city law and religion government, the mother city, the metropolis as the Greeks would say and that's civilians.
• 1:23:40
  In
• 1:23:42
  common law countries, they're called commoners.
• 1:23:44
  Most lawyers in common law countries today in America don't have a clue about that. Now in
• 1:23:51
  England and in Canada and Australia, they're more familiar with it. They call themselves
• 1:23:55
  common lawyers and they understand that a little more. I don't know whether they're taught in their schools or what it is but they know that. Course they're the ends of court in England where that's still
• 1:24:05
  taught.
• 1:24:06
  But we are common lawyers.
• 1:24:08
  There is movement afoot of course to do away with any
• 1:24:12
  sense of the difference of the two great traditions of religion, law and government that have always been with mankind and always will be the law of the land and the law of the city.
• 1:24:22
  Those are the two, there are no others. Everyone is on that spectrum of tending toward the one or tending toward the other. There isn't anything else. I'm not the first one to have said that. It's a ruse and a distraction to say there are many kinds of governments, many kinds of religion, there aren't. There's only two. Never have been more than two and the Bible says that also. But the one thing that's not taught in American law schools anymore used to be a required course in the not too distant past was comparative law. Comparative law is the study of those two traditions of religion, law and government. The law of the land versus the law of the city. The law of the city is best known throughout the world now as the code of Justinian and the Canon Law of the Church of Rome. Those are fundamentally the same, that's the same code fundamentally in principle and it's the same laws. The law of the old Roman Empire that reached the zenith of its expression
• 1:25:11
  under the Emperor
• 1:25:12
  Justinian
• 1:25:13
  when he
• 1:25:15
  and his legal bagels compiled
• 1:25:17
  all of this rescripts and the decrees and the commands of the law of the city world going clear back to Babylon and saying they'd put it together and it's the perfect expression
• 1:25:25
  of reason and balance and beauty and eloquence.
• 1:25:29
  Precision. Precision
• 1:25:31
  was what it was all about and that's what the Nazis took up with the code of Justinian and renamed it the code of Bismarck and then Japan,
• 1:25:39
  she received the code of Bismarck and that's why she had the imperial government able to do what she did and all the communist countries are under the code of Bismarck but there are lawyers out there, amazingly, a Christian law school's in America. It's almost funny now that I look at it from looking back. Trying to start Christian law schools don't have a clue what they're doing. Christian folks, well
• 1:26:01
  learned theologians do this. They know a lot about theology.
• 1:26:05
  Theology by the way in the West is the product of the law of the city. John Calvin, he was the foremost civilian in the world of his day as was
• 1:26:15
  his father before
• 1:26:16
  him. Both of them educated
• 1:26:18
  at Orleans in France and he became a chief reformer and he brought to the continent of Europe an approach to the Bible was the same approach they would approach the Code of Justinian with. That was all good. That was very rational, very good
• 1:26:32
  but at the same time he didn't understand government and he admitted it in his commentary to Seneca. He admitted there's something missing here. I don't know what it is. Well, what it was was common law and Geneva became the Rome of Protestantism because he was there and he was exerting the principles of Rome,
• 1:26:49
  Romanism. Martin Luther same way. He was trained
• 1:26:52
  not only as a lawyer,
• 1:26:54
  a civilian
• 1:26:56
  but also trained as a Roman priest and a Roman priest is a civilian. Period. A highly trained civilian I might add and the Jesuits are at the head of all those highly trained civilian lawyers and the inns justifies the means. That means torture is okay. That's all part of the law of the city. Go ahead. That's scary.
• 1:27:14
  Yeah, scary but yeah, Roger, I'll take a breather. That's okay.
• 1:27:19
  Unknown: Did that answer your question? I wanted to tell you in case you the others that don't know,
• 1:27:24
  the reason we have these Friday programs
• 1:27:27
  is because of your question right there, Samuel, and that's because I
• 1:27:32
  understood
• 1:27:33
  when we started here four or five years ago that when you file this paperwork,
• 1:27:39
  theoretically,
• 1:27:39
  you move back over under that common law and the feds lose that fourteenth Amendment long arm jurisdiction on you, and I knew that those principles
• 1:27:50
  had been
• 1:27:51
  swept under the rug because of my personal experience. You know, six months of paralegal school and they had one mention of common law in six months, and it said common law is case law, that's the extent that common law was covered in six months paralegal school, okay? And I knew there was a void there and I reached out to Brent and I originally wanted to get him and John
• 1:28:14
  on together and do a program, but it would have been fabulous with those two banks of knowledge coming together, but suffice it, Brent and I have carried the manor here for a number of years, but that's the reason this whole thing started is because of Brent's expertise
• 1:28:29
  in that long lost area of knowledge called the common law, which is what our enemies hate. Our enemies cannot deal with and hate the common law, and that's why they gotta come in and overlap this law of the city over it where they can control us.
• 1:28:45
  Unknown: You know, I had a lady out of Canada
• 1:28:49
  contact me and she says, is there a counterpart
• 1:28:52
  like you in Canada?
• 1:28:53
  And
• 1:28:55
  I said, well, I don't know, I could think of one fellow but he didn't have any Christian sensibilities,
• 1:29:00
  I'd read some of his stuff and he
• 1:29:03
  made the difference between the commoner and the civilian
• 1:29:07
  but it's not that I know so much about it and I've known men that have been much more learned than myself. I've known lawyers here in this country that have practiced
• 1:29:15
  the common law intensely
• 1:29:17
  and not didn't even know what they were doing, didn't know there was a difference. I got onto the idea that there's a difference and so I've made comparative
• 1:29:25
  law as it used to be called,
• 1:29:27
  a focus of a lot of what I do because I
• 1:29:30
  well, it interests me and I've come to discover that we as Americans are distinguished from the rest of the world because we are a common law country. We don't even know it. We don't even understand and most of us, lawyers, judges don't know squat. They just think well it doesn't make any difference just so justice is done. Well that didn't mean anything of course. What's justice?
• 1:29:51
  Depends on how you define it.
• 1:29:53
  But the laws of nature, unwritten in the nature of things, Lex Nonscripta says Blackstone
• 1:29:59
  in his first volume and the laws of nature's God written in the Bible, Lex scripta, says Blackstone,
• 1:30:05
  these two volumes, these and no others, these and no more are our fundamental laws, Americans. And if we lose it as we are losing our sensibility to that,
• 1:30:15
  everything we have will be gone. All of our freedoms will be gone. All of our prosperity and wealth. We've been the greatest engine of wealth and prosperity the world has ever known because our common law tradition, we brought it back, not forward, back again
• 1:30:30
  to the principles of the Anglo Saxons, the Danes and the Celts of ancient Britain. That's what we brought it back to. Magna Carta tried to bring it back to that also, back to pre 1066
• 1:30:42
  England.
• 1:30:43
  The English Bill of Rights tried to bring it back. The councils of Clairdon tried to bring it back. John Wycliffe when translating the Bible into English for the first time, tried to bring it back. He said so. He understood exactly what he was doing. He said we must supplant
• 1:30:58
  the common law at Oxford or the
• 1:31:01
  civil law, the law of the city at Oxford with
• 1:31:04
  the teaching of common law
• 1:31:06
  and we must get the Bible into English, the laws of nature and the laws of nature's God. He understood entirely. Wycliffe was so far ahead of his time. He taught all the doctrines that the reformers later taught. He was the only one that did. He taught the dominion, the lordship to take over land. He taught that there is no mediator between God and man. No priesthood, no church, no institution,
• 1:31:27
  just man, the individual man
• 1:31:30
  having a direct communication with his God through the God man, Jesus Christ. That's what Wycliffe taught. There is no other mediator. There is no mother, Virgin Mary. There is no church
• 1:31:41
  and of course for that,
• 1:31:43
  bones were later dug up and burned. They didn't get to him before he kicked the bucket. The poor guy, he beat him to the punch and died before they get to him. So they had to dig him up, burn his bones, it's crazy isn't it what the evil empire does? But anyway,
• 1:31:57
  Unknown: that's the grand distinction. Go to that kind of a links shows I think that would exemplify today's
• 1:32:03
  the definition of today's word hate that's thrown around
• 1:32:08
  so damned liberally. Samuel, one day,
• 1:32:11
  a couple of years back,
• 1:32:12
  a guy called into the program, he was from Delaware,
• 1:32:16
  and he I don't remember if he'd gotten turned on with that video that I keep telling y'all to listen to, The Science of Law,
• 1:32:24
  but I think he had listened to that and stumbled on and he said, Man, I keep listening to that over and over and over again, and he said, Listen, I know exactly what you're talking about on this common law stuff because I'm a process server
• 1:32:37
  and I serve those common law writs
• 1:32:41
  every
• 1:32:42
  day.
• 1:32:44
  It's still there and it's still in use.
• 1:32:48
  Unknown: Yeah,
• 1:32:49
  we have all the machinery in place,
• 1:32:51
  we just don't know what it is and if we don't see you can't understand
• 1:32:55
  our common law unless you see it
• 1:32:58
  side by side in contrast to its great antagonist.
• 1:33:01
  Its great antagonist is the law of the city. It's been said by comparative lawyers for centuries, our common law is only known in adversity. You don't even know what it is. The people that complained against the common law in America back in the '18
• 1:33:14
  after the war of eighteen twelve, there was a movement on America to get rid of our common law and the people that were trying to do it said we hate everything English.
• 1:33:22
  We just went to war with Englishmen. We're throwing it all out. We're throwing out the common law. Why? Well they said, you don't even know what the common law is until the judge pronounces it. That's exactly right because due process
• 1:33:33
  is our common law. The way we serve papers, that's the way. It's
• 1:33:39
  a road, it's a path, it's a course you get on. It's how you do it. Not what you do but how you do it. That's our common law. That's why due process is the most important
• 1:33:48
  right.
• 1:33:49
  Our constitution mentions because our constitution is a brief common law government and no man's life, liberty or property or combination thereof shall be taken except by what? Due process of law and what this says in Article six then? It says this is the supreme law of the land. What's the supreme law of the land? Due process.
• 1:34:07
  The phrase supreme law of the land lifted from Magna Carta means
• 1:34:11
  due process. That was their phrase for due process. Our common law does not include due process. Our common law is due process.
• 1:34:19
  It's not a list of rights and wrongs, do's and don'ts. It's
• 1:34:24
  a sensibility
• 1:34:25
  to the process that is due and owing to all concerned of course. That's why the Bible says,
• 1:34:30
  it speaks of the way and the paths and Jesus Christ said, I'm the way. He didn't say I'm a list of laws. I'm away. The word Torah, the most fundamental word of the Hebrew Old Testament
• 1:34:41
  used to speak of law is from a verb, Yarath, that means the way pointed out with the index finger. It all comes back to the way, the Course. The most popular book in the English speaking world for many many decades,
• 1:34:55
  right behind the Bible was a book called Pilgrim's Progress.
• 1:35:00
  John Well, Bunyan is the
• 1:35:02
  it's about progress. It's about a course that he gets on and how it's important that he sticks to that course and not deviate from it which he did do a few times. He tells about the problems he had when he took a frolic from the course. Thought he'd take a break, thought he found a shortcut. There are no shortcuts.
• 1:35:19
  You come in through the gate and you follow the course. That's our common law. That's our Maker's way of living. You know,
• 1:35:26
  used to tell my children and I know it's true of me as a child also,
• 1:35:31
  it wasn't so egregious that I would disobey my parents or not remember to follow the directions.
• 1:35:36
  The egregious thing was how I went about doing that and my attitude toward them. It's the way you see that's important and you can do a lot. I still tell
• 1:35:46
  my children, you can say anything you want to me but you do
• 1:35:50
  it the right way.
• 1:35:52
  You can't come at me screaming. You can't come at me cussing. You can't come at me I'm gonna get rid of you. And by the way, you go to the courtroom, it's the same thing. It's all about the way you approach the court. It's not about what you ask the court to do, it's how you do it. No judge is gonna listen to anybody come in telling him off. It ain't gonna happen. Hadn't happened. Won't happen. Why? That's the way God made us and by the way, God's the same way. Way, w a y. His manner that He wants. You come with your hat in your hand.
• 1:36:21
  That's why the Bible says honor all men.
• 1:36:24
  It doesn't mean you aren't gonna have differences, doesn't mean you're not gonna have some showdowns. It means that you don't disrespect
• 1:36:30
  the other fellow. You don't torture him, you don't misabuse
• 1:36:34
  him, you be decent even if he's your arch enemy.
• 1:36:38
  Do what you gotta do, if he's trying to kill you, you may have to kill him, but you remember that God made him and made him in his own a magio.
• 1:36:47
  He looks like him, he acts like him, he has characteristics like the maker of heaven and earth himself. Back to you, Roger. Well, that's where
• 1:36:55
  Unknown: the socialists and leftists and the Frankfurt School people
• 1:36:58
  have short sheeted this whole process. You get in a discussion discussion to to
• 1:37:03
  put put forward forward facts that everybody agrees on so you can move the discussion forward and everybody's
• 1:37:09
  understanding.
• 1:37:10
  I mean, that's the way it's supposed to work, isn't it?
• 1:37:14
  Well sure, facts are not some things, facts are everything. Right. The consequences will take care of themselves. Well you can't have a discussion with somebody that's screaming labels at you, that won't listen to anything you're gonna say, won't recognize any facts that are put in front of them, and don't even understand the definitions of the labels they're hurling and laying on you.
• 1:37:36
  Unknown: That's why you don't talk to people like that. You don't get into debates
• 1:37:41
  that have denied fundamental reality to start the debate. You're wasting your time. You know, here's the deal, never wrestle with a pig.
• 1:37:49
  Unknown: All you can do is get dirty and the pig likes it.
• 1:37:54
  Unknown: Yeah, you give them a chance to air their stupidity.
• 1:37:57
  And as the Bible says, whether they rage or whether they laugh, there will be no peace. I don't care what you say to people like that. They'll either laugh at you or they'll rage at you. It doesn't make any difference. Just look at politics and the
• 1:38:10
  wackos on the left. It makes no difference what the facts bounce off of them and they either rage and bring in people to beat you up or they laugh at you Stay and make fun
• 1:38:21
  Unknown: away from them. They're agenda driven. Stay
• 1:38:25
  Unknown: away from them because there is the means justifies the ends. Laughter,
• 1:38:30
  abuse,
• 1:38:31
  murder, they don't care. Just so they get what they want and they will stop at nothing. One time,
• 1:38:36
  who was it? Churchill,
• 1:38:39
  they say,
• 1:38:40
  asked Stalin,
• 1:38:41
  when are you gonna stop
• 1:38:43
  killing people?
• 1:38:45
  And he said,
• 1:38:46
  when it's no longer necessary.
• 1:38:49
  That's the law of the city. Yeah.
• 1:38:53
  That's what we see here with these elements of the left. We're not gonna get rid of them but we need to have the machinery in place and the mindset, a critical mass of the mindset that says no. And the way to get that mindset is to just see clearly that there are two traditions of religion, law and government in the world and we're either tending toward the one or the other. Every person is either tending toward the one or the other. There is no other, there are no other options. Never have been any other options. Jesus Christ said, You're either for Me or you're against Me. There are saints and there are ancients. There is up and there is down. There is heaven and there's hell.
• 1:39:25
  Period.
• 1:39:26
  How do I know? Well, John the Apostle says so and he says it in terms just that strong. Read the book of first John, there are no gray areas there. He just says, this is what it is, in or out. He who has the Son, he who hath the Son, to put it in the old English,
• 1:39:40
  he who hath the Son hath life and he who hath not the Son of God hath not life and the wrath of God hangs
• 1:39:48
  over him.
• 1:39:50
  That's a terrible position to be in but there are no other two positions. You're either in or you're out. You either are standing under
• 1:39:58
  a hanging judgment or you aren't. Which is it? You gotta make up your mind. You gotta make up your choice. You've got to declare
• 1:40:07
  your position and if you don't stick to it, it won't do you any good.
• 1:40:11
  Unknown: The Turks
• 1:40:12
  took that argument
• 1:40:14
  yesterday
• 1:40:16
  and wielded it unmercifully.
• 1:40:21
  All the same. It's brilliant, man.
• 1:40:23
  All this stuff with Syria and the Kurds and Turks and the immigrants and all that stuff that's been going on over there for all these years. Right? Well, now Russia Yeah. Has stepped in and stabilized it by putting this advanced missile system over there in Syria and scaring the bejesus out of the Israelis
• 1:40:42
  and The US because they don't have anything that can overcome it.
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  So now No. Russia
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  has done the same thing with Turkey,
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  and they put those missile batteries in Turkey also,
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  and The US is trying to flex their muscles,
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  and they said, Well, you're a member of NATO. What are you doing taking this from Russia? We just won't let you have any more of these f 35
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  planes that you think you're gonna get.
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  And so Pence
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  was Trump used him to deliver the message and Erdogan came back and said, this is brilliant.
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  You're either with the terrorists
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  or you're with us
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  because The US has sponsored all the terrorists.
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  Unknown: Damn. That's
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  a a restatement of George Bush's, you're either working for against us. Restating the creators, and he was talking about you're either with the evil side, the deep state,
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  or the militant industrial complex,
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  or you're against us, rephrasing
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  the statement of Christ. It's it's it's polar opposite but it's insane, it's illogical.
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  Unknown: Well, the communist
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  communist is that pretty good too. Go ahead, Brent.
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  Unknown: I was gonna ask who was it that said lead follower or get out of the way? That was Ted Turner.
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  Oh, well, he was right on that point. Of all people, Ted Turner.
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  Unknown: Don't forget, I was in Atlanta, you know, I lived in Atlanta when all that when he was developing Channel seventeen and the old movies and bought the Braves and and I was in media. So, I was around that peripherally,
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  you know? I dealt with several people that did all the announcing for
• 1:42:21
  for CNN, little guys, guy named Tullis who you never, nobody ever heard of, he's dead now. But I had a lot some interaction with them back in those days and
• 1:42:31
  Turner's pretty colorful guy. I mean, don't agree with him. Obviously, he got real liberal and
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  sucked in with these people as he got older, but
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  he was a real pioneer,
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  very colorful guy.
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  Unknown: He
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  kind of took that over from his father down Yeah, there in
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  Unknown: Billboard. His daddy owned a billboard business.
• 1:42:53
  Unknown: Yeah,
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  promotion business. Yeah.
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  Well,
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  it's just that if you're gonna carry the flag, you might as well get out of the parade and if you're out of the parade, you're sidelined.
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  So
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  neutrality
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  has never been an option for anyone.
• 1:43:10
  It's
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  a myth of the evil empire that neutrality is an option.
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  I hear people say, well, those people can go bump body parts if they want, men and men and women and women and it doesn't bother me. Well, doesn't work that way. No, they have to have your approval and they'll get it or they'll declare war on you.
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  That's what the Bible says will happen. Romans chapter one, they must have that hearty approval. They're not gonna get it from their maker, so they have to have it from other men. And if other men don't give it to them, their guilt drives them to get it or destroy those that won't give it to them and that's what they're out to do. A very good description, Brent. That's a very good description of that you just laid out.
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  Unknown: Well, see it happening. Yep, me too. I think all of us do. All of us do.
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  And it comes down to people. Go ahead Roger. Well, was going to defer to Samuel. I didn't he had other comments or questions, I didn't want us to get babbling here and and try it over. Yeah. I had I had two more. I I wanted Brent to comment on the use of the word dominion in our in a document. It's like an affidavit
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  Unknown: and a comment on Robert's rules of order.
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  Unknown: All I know about Robert's rules
• 1:44:25
  of order, I learned in FFA
• 1:44:27
  and that doesn't stand for federal financial assistance, that stands for future farmers of America.
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  I was in FFA and that was a big deal in FFA. I don't know why they made such a big deal but it wasn't a bad thing.
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  There was a sign up on the wall in Ag class I remember and it said
• 1:44:46
  say nothing, do nothing, be nothing. That one stuck with me. A fella needs to do something, man, he needs to say something and neutrality
• 1:44:55
  again is not an option. We had a good ag teacher, Squire or Don Boyer,
• 1:45:00
  I remember him well. He took over the bull business from my granddad, my dad when they quit it. They were in the bull business renting bulls out but that's all I know about Robert's rules of order but I think that Robert's rules of order is a matter of due process. Matter of fact,
• 1:45:16
  Sam Rayburn was Speaker of the House for a long long time and somebody asked him one time said, well how is it you can get so much done here in Congress? And he said
• 1:45:26
  parliamentary procedure,
• 1:45:28
  friend. Parliamentary procedure.
• 1:45:30
  That's how he got his way because he knew it, see? Better than others,
• 1:45:34
  he thought anyway. I
• 1:45:36
  Unknown: bring it up because yes, we used it at FFA, we used it in four H
• 1:45:41
  I think the Boy Scouts use it, I wasn't the Boy Scout but in our local meetings,
• 1:45:46
  they run you over and they give you the short time to speak etcetera
• 1:45:51
  and it's
• 1:45:52
  order.
• 1:45:53
  Unknown: Know? Oh yeah. They're
• 1:45:55
  they're they're lawless. Just utterly. And no order. No. You know the very definition
• 1:46:00
  what state were you in by way in the FFA?
• 1:46:03
  Unknown: Wisconsin.
• 1:46:05
  Unknown: Yeah, back when I was in FFA,
• 1:46:08
  every boy in school was in FFA because we all lived on farms.
• 1:46:13
  I don't think that's true anymore.
• 1:46:15
  And that's part of our problem in America. We need a core of people that are close to the down to the ground. Amen.
• 1:46:21
  Unknown: And
• 1:46:23
  Unknown: we've lost that but the other question you had about dominion, I wanted to make a comment about that. I appreciate you bringing it up.
• 1:46:30
  John Wycliffe
• 1:46:31
  wrote his most famous writing
• 1:46:33
  was about dominion
• 1:46:35
  and that is a Latin word and the English equivalent is lordship.
• 1:46:40
  Just lordship,
• 1:46:41
  is not a negative word. It doesn't mean to dominate men. Matter of fact, it means to dominate the land. That's what it means in the Bible and that's what man's purpose is.
• 1:46:51
  And
• 1:46:52
  the great distinction between the law of the land
• 1:46:56
  and the law of the city,
• 1:46:58
  it is the law of the land
• 1:47:00
  demands
• 1:47:02
  that dominate the land. The law of the city demands that men dominate each other and the madness of course that comes from that is revolution, revolving
• 1:47:10
  domination and re domination. That's what politics is all about. We kick your butt, you kick ours. We take your stuff, you take ours. Like Bastiat said in France, it's just been round and round and round.
• 1:47:21
  It's just plunder, we plunder you, you plunder us, we plunder you, you plunder us. That's why it's called revolution.
• 1:47:27
  The common law is fundamentally Christian.
• 1:47:30
  A justice story observed that. Many men through history have observed that. Many jurists. And because it's fundamentally Christian, it follows the fundamental tenet of the Bible which is man was put here to take lordship over the most precious possession.
• 1:47:45
  The most precious creation God has given to man and that is the land. And the land,
• 1:47:52
  we take lordship over it according to his terms and that was the covenant given to our granddad, Adam, with his partial real estate.
• 1:48:00
  That's what we're called to do and that is the fundamental reason that man is here.
• 1:48:05
  And that's why we start out that way in the Bible and when we get to the book of Revelation, as I'd mentioned a while ago at the end of the Bible and the other lid of the Bible, it says that men who waste the land, God will waste them terminally. That's the idea
• 1:48:19
  because it all comes back to land and also in that book Revelation,
• 1:48:22
  Jesus Christ is given and opens the title deeds to all the land of the earth. And the reason He's done that because
• 1:48:32
  He comes to do and does do what the first Adam, the first man failed to do and that's exactly what it says. Adam is supposed to spread out and take dominion over the land and stacking and packing in cities won't get that done and that's why of course also the book of Revelation in the end, there will be no more cities except the one city, just one. That's Jerusalem. The new Jerusalem.
• 1:48:54
  There will be no more cities and it comes down out of the skies by the way, it's not the one over there in Palestine,
• 1:48:59
  it comes down out of the skies. There will be no more cities and there will be no more seas. So there will be no need of Admiralty law and there will be no need of the city law, the law of the city. There is only the law of the land and men doing what God put them here to do, taking care of his land. Keep it as He said to our grandpa Adam, dress it and keep it and guard it. Shamer in the Hebrew. It means to actively safeguard.
• 1:49:24
  That
• 1:49:25
  word is used hundreds of times throughout the Bible. Shamer. For example, the concept is in the New Testament
• 1:49:31
  where it says that wives
• 1:49:33
  are to be, and the old translation says, keepers at home.
• 1:49:38
  That has a connotation
• 1:49:40
  now that it didn't used to have. What the Greek word there means is not that we wouldn't say keepers at home, we'd say home guard. Home guard.
• 1:49:50
  That's what the word means. It's the answer to the old testament shamer.
• 1:49:54
  It means to guard the home actively as Adam was to guard the garden and didn't do it. The woman is called to do that in her own bailiwick,
• 1:50:01
  in her own household
• 1:50:03
  and she's responsible for every as he is too when he's there. He's responsible for everything that comes through the door, in the window, is piped in through the internet. He's responsible and he's not to let anything in there that pollutes or defiles
• 1:50:15
  that particular
• 1:50:17
  bailiwick.
• 1:50:18
  And that's real estate. That's the land that the Lord your God has given you. I don't care whether you live under a bridge
• 1:50:25
  or whether you live in an apartment that you've rented or whether you're staying in your mother's house. You have a certain right to be there. That means you have a right in real estate. You better deal with it the way your maker tells you to deal with it. I don't care how small it looks or how weak your title or your right in it is, it's yours. God allows you to have it. Don't or take it seriously.
• 1:50:47
  Do not take it flippantly.
• 1:50:49
  But lordship, a dominion is the chief trust settlement
• 1:50:52
  that organizes
• 1:50:54
  around which all of the law of God revolves. That's the number one. It's a trust settlement.
• 1:50:59
  That's the number one legal principle. The do's and don'ts of the law fall under that.
• 1:51:05
  Unknown: I think, Samuel, one of the most valuable synthesized
• 1:51:09
  statements that Brent has brought us for me
• 1:51:12
  is that because I love simplicity because you can understand
• 1:51:16
  especially duality
• 1:51:17
  simplicities
• 1:51:18
  because they're easy to compare,
• 1:51:20
  and this one that he brings us with the common law is we're dictated to conquer the land and dominate the land, and the law of the city,
• 1:51:30
  you're dictated to
• 1:51:32
  and dominate your fellow man and then worship the land.
• 1:51:36
  It's very interesting
• 1:51:38
  dichotomy,
• 1:51:39
  okay, and it lays it out very simply,
• 1:51:42
  very understandably,
• 1:51:44
  and very plainly.
• 1:51:46
  Unknown: Jesus Christ said, Do not be as the nations, the nations
• 1:51:50
  who seek to dominate one another. Well, that's men dominating men. The greatest among you shall be your servant. Jesus Christ calls us to serve our fellow man and dominate
• 1:52:01
  the creation,
• 1:52:02
  the land more particularly.
• 1:52:04
  Whereas the law of the city said no, no, no. You
• 1:52:08
  dominate your fellow man
• 1:52:09
  and you worship and serve creation and that's what we see happening with the modern environmentalist movement. And that law of the city incorporates
• 1:52:18
  Unknown: Romanism,
• 1:52:19
  Islamism
• 1:52:20
  and Judaism.
• 1:52:21
  All three.
• 1:52:23
  Unknown: They're
• 1:52:24
  just different labels for the same thing, that's right.
• 1:52:27
  Same fundamental law and it comes down to a scholasticism
• 1:52:31
  and if I'm gonna make a living, I gotta somehow get my money from somebody else and I don't think about or depend upon the idea that God has given it to us through the land. There is no other way to get wealth. You either worry it out of the mountains
• 1:52:44
  as the miner does or you coax it from the soil and all that we have arises from that and the value that we add to that with labor,
• 1:52:52
  it all comes back to recognizing
• 1:52:55
  constantly
• 1:52:56
  that the raw materials
• 1:52:58
  that God gives us, He gives it to we can't have anything
• 1:53:02
  unless we are willing to take lordship
• 1:53:05
  over the land. I'm amazed at the wealth. They were saying, Oh, there is no more oil and then they said, Well, we've discovered biggest oil field up in North Dakota that we've ever discovered in the whole history of mankind and then not long after that, they found another pay zone down in West Texas. Yeah. I've been down there recently. Places crawling with the wilderness, I call it out there, crawling with thousands of men. They can't even find anything to eat, there's so many men out there. I went to a gas station recently out there and
• 1:53:32
  little tiny gas station, I'm just utterly overwhelmed with the men and they're looking for something to eat. And this lady told me that worked there, she said we can't keep the food in this place. She was mad about it. I said don't be mad, you're making money. I said you're the only outlet out here serving hot dogs and they'll eat the hot dogs, you know. But yeah, we've got a big oil field down there and I read not too many years ago only it couldn't be more than, it has to be less
• 1:53:58
  than 5% of the recoverable gold in the lower 48 states has been recovered. It couldn't be more than 5% said the United States Geological Survey.
• 1:54:08
  Well that's just a fact. We haven't even begun to scratch the surface of what this land, all land has for us on the face of this place we call Earth. Well how about that little country just south of me called Bolivia
• 1:54:20
  Unknown: that's always been destitute and in the future, they're probably gonna be the energy center of the planet with their lithium supply down there.
• 1:54:29
  Unknown: Well, now that's a big deal needing batteries to store
• 1:54:33
  energy and all these wind farms, that's a very big deal but consider Russia. Russia has one sixth of
• 1:54:40
  the surface of the land of the earth.
• 1:54:43
  One sixth yet for seventy years,
• 1:54:46
  those people were starving. They had the lot. They
• 1:54:50
  they had had more gold, more oil, more coal, more farmland,
• 1:54:53
  more timber than any country in the world and starving and the reason they were starving was because they had received
• 1:54:59
  the law of the city. Yep. And that happened before communism by the way. Communism kept it because it allows, yeah, go ahead. It allowed him to murder most of the people that could do any of the exploitation.
• 1:55:10
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• 1:55:15
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• 1:56:19
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• 1:56:27
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• 1:56:31
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• 1:56:34
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• 1:56:35
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• 1:56:41
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• 1:56:50
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• 1:56:58
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• 1:57:06
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• 1:57:16
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• 1:57:17
  times we live in. Thanks for being with us. Chris and Samuel, thanks for your contribution.
• 1:57:22
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• 1:57:26
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• 1:57:28
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• 1:57:30
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