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0:02
[UNKNOWN]: If I told you, the Carolina Panthers put up 37 points in their season opener and lost, would you be stunned?
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[UNKNOWN]: Probably because the Bears put up 59 in a historic week one opener that has topped the points for any game in the history of NFL openers.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jalen Coker went off, and when I say went off said, hey, hold my beer, I might be number one.
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[UNKNOWN]: But role does ankle on this in a boot.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I got to tell you, the defense is under big time fire.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you should panic, but a lot of people are.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I can tell you what you need to do is hang out for the C3 Panthers podcast.
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[UNKNOWN]: Cody, let's rock.
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[UNKNOWN]: Turn it down, let's roll, turn it down, and not to it but to do it brother, let's roll.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's Tuesday night 9 p.m. and you're listening to the longest run in Panthers podcast where we chop up the latest Panthers news and opinions from the fan perspective.
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[UNKNOWN]: My name's Tony Dunn, that's my wheel man Cody Lack, how you doing my friend?
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[UNKNOWN]: Tony Dunn, it's a Tuesday Night Dammit, and you know there's nowhere I'd rather be than sitting here with my boys talking, panther football, it is back.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have to seem the first game of the season.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Tony, listen, I'm going to keep the same mindset that I did in the post game show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Am I pissed off at that abysmal performance by our defense under 4th year defense of
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[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely, but there was so much good on offense that I really feel like the season has just started and hope still springs eternal Tony look man We have so much to discuss.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna preview our first division matchup against the Atlanta Falcons But Tony, okay, you know that we would never dream
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[UNKNOWN]: of doing this show without the best damn panther fans in all of YouTube.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know I'm in love with me so I'm bored, jost.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you link Chris and Butler in the building, what's up, Chris and Joey, the blind panther, as always what's up brother, Bruce Wink, all boys grew with the flu.
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[UNKNOWN]: John B. Jenkins, go fish, a loud packed loop, Panther Gow, and the one who dispenses hope aka VR, the hope.
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[UNKNOWN]: Della, Tony Donn, and I'm too at butt to do it, brother.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's a Tuesday night.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's roll!
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[UNKNOWN]: don't rush to judgment just yet on this defense because Cooper Rush in the Atlanta Falcons are next on the rise and hang out with us tonight and get in the cat calls the numbers two five two two two eight fifty ninety eight that's two five two two eight fifty ninety eight make sure you smash the thumbs up button subscribe small things you can do to help the channel consider being a C3 super fan we had an incredible post game show
3:43
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and we're just getting back to where excitement abounds for Carolina Panthers, but excitement abounded in that post game show.
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[UNKNOWN]: CK had, uh, was there for a little while, but man, um, really fireworks.
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[UNKNOWN]: You want to talk about fireworks in that first game, and fireworks not in a below your finger off, John Paul.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jason Pierre Paul moment right there, but we were lightens of fireworks and shooting them off at some people.
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[UNKNOWN]: Panthers put up some points early had some miscures.
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[UNKNOWN]: The bears seemingly were flawless.
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[UNKNOWN]: Actually seemingly is an understatement.
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[UNKNOWN]: They were flawless on offense Carolina fell in a shootout.
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[UNKNOWN]: But C. K. Man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't, we'll get into it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Welcome back to the show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Good to see you again, my friend.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man, I'm happy to be here.
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[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, it's, I think personally, um, I almost want to think the bears because this has opened the eyes of a lot of the railroad defenders that have been defending him for the past three years.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um,
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[UNKNOWN]: And who have said we're overreacting, we're blaming this on the coaches when it's the players.
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[UNKNOWN]: They don't have the players that they should have to be as successful.
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[UNKNOWN]: Now all of a sudden it's like, at what point do we stop the excuses?
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[UNKNOWN]: The dude has history making stats for most of his defenses in the worst ways possible.
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[UNKNOWN]: all the wrong reasons.
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[UNKNOWN]: All of the wrong reasons.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is breaking records from any defensive coordinator that the Panthers have ever had.
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[UNKNOWN]: And people, there are so people that are defending him saying, well, what is the miss tackles?
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[UNKNOWN]: There is clearly a scheme issue because it does not matter.
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[UNKNOWN]: You cannot tell me that a good defensive coordinator is going to make
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[UNKNOWN]: have to have star players at every single position without making star players because tell me one player that you feel like he has made a star because I can't tell you one.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we've got a lot to talk about just about how worried you are about that defense and how much a giro is a part of it and is it will a giro ever go mentality, but is regardless of, I mean, look, the players have to make plays, defensive coaches have to get the prepared.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, we don't give excuses.
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[UNKNOWN]: Many excuses.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think Jimmy Horn Jr. got many excuses.
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[UNKNOWN]: He got waves.
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[UNKNOWN]: We'll talk about that in just a moment.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's Euro, Euro has to make these guys do a little do better.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, now it's firing him the answer and the solution we'll get into that later.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thanks for hanging out with us.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Cody, I guess it's time.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's just go ahead and jump into tonight's show.
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[UNKNOWN]: Pathetic Panther's defense runs on empty against Chicago's offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, do this in.
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[UNKNOWN]: The whole thing was a bit more and we're going to get into that Tony, but before we actually do a full breakdown of what happened last Sunday, let's recount some of the more breaking news that happened today and Tony it appears that buffing a punt in 206 can hit your ass
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[UNKNOWN]: has been waived.
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[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers made some moves today.
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[UNKNOWN]: They added an experience player on Tuesday, the team signed veteran live-backer Tyrell Dodson off the practice squad and waived wide receiver Jimmy Horn horn a six rounder last year served as the primary returners Sunday, but moved to point in the loss to the bears.
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[UNKNOWN]: Tony, I don't know how to feel about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: My
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[UNKNOWN]: Why didn't you do this to travel ETN last year when did they did it in a playoff game?
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[UNKNOWN]: To me, that's like, it's a bit of a double standard I'd like, but horn could have been as a part of returner, but he has an opportunity and he should have picked a bed and he is no longer a Carolina panther as a result.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't truly believe this is just because of a moth pot.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I mean, obviously, well, I mean, I'm going to spend a lot of time at this some point in the show talking about how the degree of, um, I guess the leniency grace varies from player to player.
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[UNKNOWN]: I would not have put this on just enough, but if the Panthers didn't
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[UNKNOWN]: the way they announced this.
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[UNKNOWN]: So as Lester moves, article comes out and it goes to last line.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's a six rounder last year served as a primary partner, Turner Sunday, but muff to punt in the loss to the bears, which to me makes it like, hey, they're reducing it down to a muff punt.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think arguably is this is that Jimmy Horn Jr. made a mistake on special teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: He is a player that is always influx as a bubble player.
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[UNKNOWN]: You said in
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[UNKNOWN]: in that role looking back today.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's what they're going with this week.
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[UNKNOWN]: The leniency for undrafted free, a undrafted free agents for these late rounders.
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[UNKNOWN]: There is the margin for error.
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[UNKNOWN]: Should I say, it's so thin and hence why I was such a giant to me or bird fan on this podcast for so long is because he lived on that razor's edge and persevered and excelled at times.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jimmy Horn Jr though a darling of Panther fans and now I think waived is important.
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[UNKNOWN]: The the word waived is important because what they're doing now is I mean once he clears he they can and maybe it's cut maybe that's at the 53 man roster where the terminology matters waived or cut or whatever it may be.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think they're saying this is we're making a roster adjustment.
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[UNKNOWN]: We don't have enough
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess somebody can pick them up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe if no one does remove them to the practice squad.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I won't say surprise, but after and the press conference is talking about the loss.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I do think it's the right move for people like Bryce Jung for people like Dave can Alice to pull the team line.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is to say the loss is not just on the defense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Certainly you can look towards the defense and say they could have been so much better.
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[UNKNOWN]: But there are
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[UNKNOWN]: everybody, every win and losses as a collective, and you had game-changing moments, not only with the defense giving up these crazy amount of yards and ultimately points and being Swiss cheese at times, but you know, you had turnovers, you had this, this is a big moment right here that led to points.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jimmy Horn Jr., I think, though, is
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[UNKNOWN]: one of the problems when it came down to making the roster in the initial part, we kind of quibbled over Jimmy Horn Jr. John Metchee, this, these guys, they're kind of expendable, they're kind of replaceable, they're kind of redundant.
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[UNKNOWN]: they are talented in different things.
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[UNKNOWN]: But can that talent be changed?
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[UNKNOWN]: Two questions I have just about this.
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[UNKNOWN]: One is about your tweet of Q David Moore to the roster.
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[UNKNOWN]: He thought that was funny right there.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it is more John Mechie to the roster, I guess, or making him active.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's what fans are hoping for.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then when we think about the wide receiver core, who is the guy that made the team that was a lock?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Bryson to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, it's like, what's he doing?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm a dead off of him on special teams too.
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[UNKNOWN]: I guess Tony, he's okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, my thing is why would you put Jimmy home and junior on your initial 52 band roster?
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[UNKNOWN]: If it was just going to take one performance for you to wait for him and bring someone else up.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know what I mean?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's not to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like responsible dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, how much did you ever believe in him?
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[UNKNOWN]: that you actually even wanted him to be on this roster at all, that just makes no sense to me.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, listen dude, I'm not going to cry for Jimmy Horn.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think he was going to be a major part of this offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: But if if he doesn't have practical use as a returner, then yeah, what role does he have on this team?
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if the Panther is new.
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[UNKNOWN]: It can almost feel like, um, caught tree, you know, or one of these, or, you know, not caught tree, um, the defensive back that got burned in that one game against Atlanta.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that was good.
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[UNKNOWN]: And they've been wicked.
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[UNKNOWN]: They've been wicked.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, they made the choice to move on from him.
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[UNKNOWN]: And it was almost like a scapegoat move.
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[UNKNOWN]: Get scapegoat move.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, um, in my opinion, you're going to, here's the deal, Jimmy Horn made a mistake.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he's made a lot of mistakes on this offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Well, not just this past week, I'm talking about historically.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's had to drop that pass and drop passes and play off things like that, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: It's made some plays, too.
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[UNKNOWN]: It made a big fourth down conversion.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: In the big moment.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but here's the thing is to something you tweet at Tony, I think speaks volumes.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is.
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[UNKNOWN]: when you have investment in a player, a six round is an investment, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Excel is an investment at first round.
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[UNKNOWN]: If they were to get rid of him right now, it's arguably something people would consider premature.
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[UNKNOWN]: I completely disagree with it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I understand it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
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[UNKNOWN]: I understand the reality of this and Pete.
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[UNKNOWN]: So many people were missing, interpreted that tweet.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the idea is this guy lives on a razor's edge every week, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, the thing I, with with the Jimmy Horn thing is I don't even think it's all about his mistakes.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it's that they feel way better about Mechie and I think it's more speaking to him than it is about Jimmy Horn.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to go with a proven commodity who has a relationship with Bryce.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you can get guys like Coker and Jimmy, I'm sorry, Metchi and T-Mac, who have great relationship with Bryce, Bryce Young, I think you're putting him in a very comfortable position moving forward.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think you're on fire hunt for eight to nine says he also wasn't lining up correctly on offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: When the hell did he ever play in that?
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[UNKNOWN]: maybe i mean i'm sure i mean i'm like i'm not saying that you're wrong or something but is like is to me like the offense was
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[UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young or Jalen Coker, Chuba Hubbard and a couple of tied in throws.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that was it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like I'm not sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, like I mean, tech was missing for a long time in that.
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[UNKNOWN]: I did it to other missing people, but then go ahead and make your comment, lead us into the cross.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just love that it's set to precedent.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you fuck up and make a dumb mistake, you might just be out of your dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't like this precedent all because No, I don't like this precedent.
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[UNKNOWN]: It is punished certain people to make other people look bad.
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[UNKNOWN]: This is good.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, then you could apply this down the line.
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[UNKNOWN]: to players were going to talk about later in the show that we talk about this I have what that you could do because fucking every player on the defense in some of this would not have cared if they did this right to travel to and after he moved the point against the Rams in the playoffs to I think that you speak in with emotion
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[UNKNOWN]: I love the fact that we are setting a precedent that if you put us in bad spots that was way the momentum of the game, yeah dude your job might be on the line.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, to be fair, Tony, good coaches do this quite frequently.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that people are.
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[UNKNOWN]: But it's okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm all right with it.
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[UNKNOWN]: I feel like here's Cody's being a little like, Brian, you're like, you missed an assignment, but you're off the team.
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[UNKNOWN]: Here's the problem I have with what Cody's saying.
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[UNKNOWN]: Not necessarily the substance of it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's the, it's the implication.
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[UNKNOWN]: that only players can be punished for being right at their jobs.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[UNKNOWN]: When we see the fact, you know, that that is that is not a good precedent to said because when you're sitting there as a player and you're letting go of a guy in his second year and there's guys who've gotten far more chances in far more years than that kid got.
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[UNKNOWN]: right, whether we believe he should have been there or not.
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[UNKNOWN]: But there is a guy who has been here and proven nothing except for mediocrity and historically bad defense in his euro euro and you're telling me the punishment goes to the second year player in the NFL who made a couple of mistakes that most players are going to make.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like that's the I agree.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think players should be able to understand that their performance is going to impact whether or not they're going to get an opportunity again, and also are they protected excel to So why why don't you hear him out that high pressure moment say fucking heaven.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah
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[UNKNOWN]: like go out there and you feel the punt.
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[UNKNOWN]: The punt is the hardest thing to do.
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[UNKNOWN]: You put the smallest guy out there with the biggest motherfuckers running at you, a bazillion miles around and you say, look up there.
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[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry about getting killed.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you miss it, you suck.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sorry.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's like
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not saying that they this was a wrong move.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's not what I'm saying.
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[UNKNOWN]: I ultimately think that then putting that line on Panthers.com framed it as the mispoint was the reason.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think this is that it should be the mispo like is can we get more effective at special teams?
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[UNKNOWN]: We need to make a difference.
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[UNKNOWN]: We also have roster constraints.
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[UNKNOWN]: So we can't have everybody we can't have messy and this we can't six fucking punk returners 12 tight ends.
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[UNKNOWN]: All of this is I think that that's the bubble they live on yeah, it really felt like I just don't like I mean, I won't say I don't like it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It just Like CK said scapegoatish a little is like we pick and choose which terrible plays get you cut.
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[UNKNOWN]: No, well, listen, I mean, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't, if you don't
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[UNKNOWN]: Basically what I'm just trying to say is that there is a precedent amongst your own players that they do not feel like their job is safe So that way they have to go out and perform to the very best of their ability
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[UNKNOWN]: To me, I do like that precedent, but I do agree that it needs to be spread out evenly amongst coaches who are not also living up to their end of the ball of the bargain shout out to a heroes path with $2 is defense blue the game
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[UNKNOWN]: cut an offensive player, shake my head.
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[UNKNOWN]: It does feel like that, doesn't it?
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[UNKNOWN]: Like they just wanted to show David Tapper.
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, we're still in charge.
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[UNKNOWN]: We mean business.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's cut Jimmy Horn Jr.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it means it's a real roster move.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right, is that look is that we were kind of fringes on keeping this person anyway, these are going to be moves that are happening.
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[UNKNOWN]: I just don't like that.
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[UNKNOWN]: The people think it's because of one play that they're like, oh, it was one play in a moment where they maybe think they could get better or try something different with Tony else.
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[UNKNOWN]: They can't bring in Metchi and keep horn on the roster for you too, but try something different.
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[UNKNOWN]: They have to do this to negotiate the numbers of the roster.
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[UNKNOWN]: But tell me, I just really feel like it is, overkill to just be like, oh, you fucked up on one play, you're cut.
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[UNKNOWN]: What you did is you didn't show in week one that you
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[UNKNOWN]: you're the answer right away at punt returner and we can try something else in week two but we can't try something else in week two and keep you right now on the act of roster because then we have to negotiate these other numbers.
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[UNKNOWN]: I really feel like it's just overkill and be in like one play you fucked up but here we go.
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[UNKNOWN]: No sure.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand that completely, but Tony, I guess my question would be kind of what I said to see.
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[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
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[UNKNOWN]: To me, it feels like why would you even have him make the 50-do man roster if something as simple as one-muffed punt is going to be what kicks you out the door?
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[UNKNOWN]: That's why I do think that it was that muffed punt.
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[UNKNOWN]: like they're just almost trying to say face more than anything because if not, why would you have even put him on this team to begin with if you if you didn't like something about what he could do for the Panthers.
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[UNKNOWN]: So let's go.
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[UNKNOWN]: What does this do to the roster real quick?
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[UNKNOWN]: Let's go through the Panthers release step chart the season week two step chart going forward.
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[UNKNOWN]: What is changed we have we're substituting Jimmy Horn Jr now for John Mechie and then we're going to say oh XL He's our punt return guy in number two always never that we're gonna I feel like this.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's time to just say this We're gonna get something out of this mug
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[UNKNOWN]: Like I don't care if we got a lot of them up and tied in with like get out on special teams get something out of him the protection I am not ready for
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[UNKNOWN]: It's just feels weird.
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[UNKNOWN]: No one on this roster deserves a shred of protection from anyone if you're not out here fucking earning your keep What are you doing here?
22:58
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like seriously, what are you doing here?
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[UNKNOWN]: And we have a whole section that we're going to dedicate to XL and a little bit talking about him in his performance, but
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[UNKNOWN]: and telling you remember the conversation I had with you a couple of weeks ago like this year he has to prove to be wide receiver number two and there's all of them and now based on what happened based off of what Jalen Coker did to that is a dream
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[UNKNOWN]: I wouldn't be surprised if we're in territory to see if we can get a 7th round pick in 2012.
23:31
[UNKNOWN]: I love how people act like any of us.
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[UNKNOWN]: More than to get something for Xavier the good because right now he is an absolute nothing burger in the Panthers offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Can you pull up the Dept.
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[UNKNOWN]: chart real quick and tell me what has changed if anything.
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[UNKNOWN]: Obviously one thing on special teams.
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[UNKNOWN]: John Mechie, elevated right here, and it's going to be the punt returner.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do we have any other changes?
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, so let me see here, so Bobby Brown concerns here from not concerns where I love Bobby Brown.
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[UNKNOWN]: My prerogative.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's the truth.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they said that he was playing with a bulging disc in his back.
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[UNKNOWN]: And he still played 52% of snaps.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, all right, let's start with offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: What has changed?
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[UNKNOWN]: If anything, it looks like we're rocking about the same, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, everything is basically the same.
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[UNKNOWN]: T-Mac, Jail and Coker, Xavier LaGette, and then Bryson Trimain, John Mechari, right behind him.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, remember, I would also like to see a fence on point, just seeing Reed, who would be signed or a practice squad, could work his way into this.
24:52
[UNKNOWN]: I would like to see what he can do as well.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then Bryson Trimain, you never know, maybe they might try to,
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[UNKNOWN]: get him involved.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right now, the wide receiver room, it's still seems pretty steady.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I think that's probably arguing on why you would move on from Jimmy Horlach.
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[UNKNOWN]: He was just other than the point and kick returner.
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[UNKNOWN]: He had no role in this offense.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, quick question here is let's just look at this as we look at this step chart.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh, you thought some money or a freelance debut at Wright Tackle numbers look pretty good.
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[UNKNOWN]: Uh-huh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Bryce had time.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, not time.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I need to get that time.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like, I think Bryce did a lot of great things that he needed to be doing maybe before that it made the pocket look even better.
25:46
[UNKNOWN]: you know, they expand the pocket.
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[UNKNOWN]: He leaks out a little bit, but not leaking out a run, but throwing, moving forward rather than throwing, moving backwards.
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[UNKNOWN]: Thoughts among Row Freelens debut at right tackle for this team.
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[UNKNOWN]: And again, boy, it's like I said just
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man.
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[UNKNOWN]: Listen, dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: You really can't even talk about this game, but now talking about how utterly abysmal this defense was.
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[UNKNOWN]: How bad is the Panthers defense?
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[UNKNOWN]: How much are we worried about the Panthers defense?
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[UNKNOWN]: How are you guys going to stop the Falcons round?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, good point.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, good point.
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[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead, Zika.
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[UNKNOWN]: Can I can I answer about how worried I am about the Panthers defense with a new nickname for Ishiro Everrow and it's I put it on Twitter.
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[UNKNOWN]: You might have seen it.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's is hero always take the ever over.
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[UNKNOWN]: The ever over on rush yards.
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[UNKNOWN]: and points scored.
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[UNKNOWN]: I, you know what to answer the commenter's question is.
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[UNKNOWN]: Look, B. John going to get his right in a sense, is that he's not going to be completely stopped.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think the Panthers, I have, we'll talk in a moment, I'm actually not as concerned.
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[UNKNOWN]: Just how worried are you about this defense?
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[UNKNOWN]: I am not as concerned as fire the coach, fire the, like, worried about this is I think that you saw points wise.
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[UNKNOWN]: Statistically, statistically, some of the worst performance you're going to get from the Carolina Panthers, just as in a whole.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think the Panthers defense is going to average being the worst in the world.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think you can, and to the caller's point, we'll get a lot into this when we preview the match up is you pull the bill, Bella check right here.
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[UNKNOWN]: and you go into this game and you say take away bejorn now be careful I know people that are Atlanta fans are coming say you can't take away bejorn this mug had 173 yards against the team that ultimately needed only to do that but that's what you have to do is just not give up 160 yards on the ground of bejorn or 140.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think collectively the panthers are in that
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[UNKNOWN]: I think this was a horrendous statistical performance.
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[UNKNOWN]: But I still found signs of life at moments, both on the defense and the offense here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Cody, the Panthers' defense of concerns against the bear, historically, the most historic, 59 points, some most points that get most of the points as in our history.
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[UNKNOWN]: The third most rushing yards at 291, 7.5 yards per carry, fourth highest total yards,
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, dude, it's, I mean, this is stained, beat down that they put on us eight explosive plays of 20 plus yards, Caleb Williams, dual threat, 334 total yards, four touchdowns, touchdowns for millions, 14 points from critical penalties,
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, look, this is, it's embarrassing at this point.
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[UNKNOWN]: And if you're the Falcons, you're probably do feel good being at home, knowing that even though you have all this quarterback issues, right down there, it was supposed to be Panics.
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[UNKNOWN]: It was supposed to be to now Cooper Rush is starting for them.
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[UNKNOWN]: But they're looking at us like they just gave up a historic amount of rushing points.
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[UNKNOWN]: Let them feel good on feed vision feed vision they know and we know that's what they're going to do CK that's all they can do that's what they're going to say against any opponent opponent has the best rushing defense about opponent that has the best the worst rushing defense the best rushing defense that's all they can do I understand that the Carolina Panthers
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[UNKNOWN]: were not good.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, obviously, they gave up with 260 set 90 yards against the run in this game.
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[UNKNOWN]: 70, I think, came from Caleb Williams.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, the running backs had two or three plays that were big busters that really, I think, even skewed the numbers a little bit more than what they were.
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[UNKNOWN]: But the difference being in I'm saying here, is that Caleb Williams,
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[UNKNOWN]: He rushed a ball from more than 70 yards.
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[UNKNOWN]: He extended plays.
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[UNKNOWN]: He got outside the pocket.
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[UNKNOWN]: He did off-script stuff and threw the ball down feel for big completions.
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[UNKNOWN]: So if you got B-John and Cooper Rush, I think this Panther's defense all of a sudden can hone in and maybe not eliminate everything, but I don't think there is bad as those numbers said.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think that you know what our defense isn't that?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think, I mean, I don't look.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not here to celebrate the Panthers performance in a way as I think that look, you can be critical, but I think that statistically on average that they're not gonna be in this terrible range right here, I think this was, and I really think Caleb Williams extending plays at times.
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[UNKNOWN]: extended drives and they pushed about down field and then all the sudden you could not account for is it run?
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[UNKNOWN]: Is it past?
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[UNKNOWN]: Was everything?
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[UNKNOWN]: It was just an onslaught and all dimensions that then all the sudden turned all statistics terrible.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know that I agree.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think on paper our defense isn't as bad as the performance that we saw last week.
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[UNKNOWN]: The problem is that they have a person, I'm going to continue to pound this drum.
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[UNKNOWN]: People are going to get tired of this.
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[UNKNOWN]: There is one factor in this entire scenario that is the underlying reason why this defense will never consistently play at a high level.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is zero, ever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right?
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[UNKNOWN]: Here's the thing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Did Derek Brown make boneheaded penalties?
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[UNKNOWN]: Absolutely.
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[UNKNOWN]: He's going to tell you that every day, all day, where there are people who miss their assignment,
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[UNKNOWN]: where we also in a third and one in every single defensive back with 10 yards off the line of scrimmage.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, multiple times because that is Everos entire M.O.
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[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, I think you're right.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, all you literally have to do is have a receiver want run one yard, turn around in the ball, be there in their face.
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[UNKNOWN]: And there's no defensive back to get there in that amount of time.
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[UNKNOWN]: the problem that I have is that is at no point has this defense proven that they should be considered or that the euro is going to be considered as one of the best defense of coordinators in the league he is not.
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[UNKNOWN]: And so I agree I look at our defense that the specific names on the defense this defense should be light out.
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[UNKNOWN]: There are some pieces that we probably could fill on that defensive line.
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[UNKNOWN]: There may be, you know, we might want to have a conversation about who's playing opposite of mode, right?
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[UNKNOWN]: But at the end of the day, this defense should not be a problem, but they are.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that means there's one problem that we can point to.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that's ever.
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[UNKNOWN]: Jump in the chat.
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[UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, 15, 98.
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[UNKNOWN]: Tell us what is your level of concern for the defense Cody?
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[UNKNOWN]: What is your level of concern for the
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[UNKNOWN]: CK and I were big on this a couple years ago is that the Panthers defense had these numbers where they had the lowest score like lowest points allowed this the least passing yards and we said this is full-s goal teams did not have to beat the Carolina Panthers offensively that would just get ahead by a score and then it was game over but to us we continue to put a lot on the offense not helping the defense the defense not really being as great as the
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it doesn't matter.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, at what point does the rubber hit the road when it comes to, and I'm not ready.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not in the, it's your ever-of-fire camp.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it makes the team better.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think this is that if, this is my honest point on my level of concern with the defense is like a, six.
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[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it's just a metal of the road.
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[UNKNOWN]: I need to see more games play out, but I will be of this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'll just go ahead and forecast what I was trying to get to.
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[UNKNOWN]: And that is, I don't think it's going to help this team to replace ever road midseason.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how you truly get that much better at that moment in that preparation.
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[UNKNOWN]: But if you don't see and sustain improvement, all of a sudden, this being anomaly at the end of the season, how can you argue with the C. K.
39:58
[UNKNOWN]: it absolutely has to be on the table.
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[UNKNOWN]: He has to feel like his job is on the line.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, most games allowing a 40 plus points since 2023, the Panthers are number eight.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, this is ridiculous.
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[UNKNOWN]: Dude, that's not even coming this season where what we give up at the most points ever in an NFL season.
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[UNKNOWN]: It's it's unacceptable.
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[UNKNOWN]: We have given a zero of arrow.
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[UNKNOWN]: All the draft picks that you could want on defense free agents galore.
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[UNKNOWN]: We went out and spit.
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[UNKNOWN]: you know what, what's this next uh uh estimation by Joe Persian.
40:38
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers both did their defense with the 165 million dollars in free agent acquisitions during the off season.
40:48
[UNKNOWN]: Then they have 59 points and 552 yards in week one.
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[UNKNOWN]: You better fucking ass that's embarrassing dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: And Tony, listen, I don't want to be in full
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[UNKNOWN]: panic mode, but when you look over the all 22, the lack of fundamental tackling form is embarrassing.
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[UNKNOWN]: You guys just going in there and trying to make shoulder tackles, not wrapping up at all, just being completely out of place, like
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry, after that kind of performance, I'm giving them no little way.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't care that it's a beach on Robertson.
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[UNKNOWN]: They better go into Atlanta and shut that shit the fuck down.
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[UNKNOWN]: I don't care what running back you're playing.
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[UNKNOWN]: This game was such a kicking the ass that everyone on that defense needs to be on notice.
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[UNKNOWN]: They need to.
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[UNKNOWN]: They have to.
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, I, I just, I'm actually, you know what, I'm lower in my, my score from five to four and I don't want to over panic here.
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[UNKNOWN]: Big questions will go up.
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[UNKNOWN]: Do you need to go up?
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[UNKNOWN]: You're not panicking up dude.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're going to year four under Evaro, we, we spent 165 million dollars in the offices and and you knew that they were going to run.
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[UNKNOWN]: You knew that they were going to, do you want to play
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[UNKNOWN]: of Grootin and them.
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[UNKNOWN]: How about this?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yes, we've got, we will.
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[UNKNOWN]: Cody, hit us up with so a couple of cat calls.
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[UNKNOWN]: And then we'll get into some real breakdown about how you should have been prepared for this off this defensive running Attent or not defense defensively should have been prepared John Groen laid it out and he said hey you should be scared If you're the Carolina Panthers of Ben Johnson's offensive rushing attack and boy did it just hit home right away Let's take a couple of calls go to
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[UNKNOWN]: So what do you thought it's on cat calling?
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's pretty shouldn't do that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody and how did that make you feel?
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[UNKNOWN]: Who's that kid that can use?
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[UNKNOWN]: What up Josh?
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[UNKNOWN]: Oh, what a doofin, but... Not all bad man.
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[UNKNOWN]: G.C.
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[UNKNOWN]: Offense looked alive, granted the fair sea fences and expected to be great, but still, like it took it to them, but up 37, probably one of actually been more, you know, Garrett Brown didn't commit those two penalties in the man.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think that was the story of a defense right there is, you know, you're stuffed about a fourth and one.
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[UNKNOWN]: And those two penalties, those were back breakers.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's in the T-Max sum rule.
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[UNKNOWN]: You know, the intersection we're about to get them off the field is in the The off-sides again.
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[UNKNOWN]: How to get them off the fields and now you're giving them a press set of downs.
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[UNKNOWN]: You're giving them the life You lost five You know Twenty twenty two points there's twenty one There's a lot of very safe Football comes down to a couple plays every game and those are a couple plays
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[UNKNOWN]: Um, you know, and, and, and let's have a mess, and as they could, and take the loan cold out on the broadcast, so there's a deep, I think it's communicating well, yeah, that's really all that's missing.
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[UNKNOWN]: And you go, well, she's like, there's a lot more that's missing.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, the tackling was, but communication seems to me to be the biggest problem, um, because
45:41
[UNKNOWN]: The defense is really going to start to turn it around.
45:44
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think you can understand that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Somebody who played defense when I was younger, granted it was all my middle school high school.
45:52
[UNKNOWN]: You got to talk to each other for playing defense.
45:54
[UNKNOWN]: You got to let each other know if you see something.
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[UNKNOWN]: Because you might not see something, but somebody next to you could get it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Or somebody behind you saw something.
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[UNKNOWN]: You got to talk to each other.
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[UNKNOWN]: You got to let each other know, hey, hey, hey.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's shit in this way.
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[UNKNOWN]: There's shit in that way.
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[UNKNOWN]: And there's runs coming this way or it's, you know,
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[UNKNOWN]: You got to do this talk to each other and I think that might be the one downfall of bringing in so many new pieces, some of which have only been seen for what's week.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's stuff.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think it'll come around.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, we got to see, but like, I don't feel bad about it.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'll understand where it is.
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[UNKNOWN]: We've got the Falcon's next week and I think we got that one in the bay.
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[UNKNOWN]: I think we got that one in the bag.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm almost out of time.
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[UNKNOWN]: If you pull it from, pull it from mass drop from that.
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[UNKNOWN]: Sign an out.
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[UNKNOWN]: Keep pounding y'all.
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[UNKNOWN]: Three, two, one.
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[UNKNOWN]: Three and a half in Josh.
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[UNKNOWN]: Three and one.
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[UNKNOWN]: We're showing you now.
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[UNKNOWN]: Three and one.
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[UNKNOWN]: Three and one.
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[UNKNOWN]: I mean, Tony, like what I'm telling you, man, if we don't rebound in these next two games, that we're talking about firing a vero, if Atlanta and the Browns look like the bottom of the league, then if we don't rebound, yeah, those those calls are going to get very,
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[UNKNOWN]: But I am in agreement with Josh.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm not hitting the panic button.
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[UNKNOWN]: The good thing about it was it was such a thorough asswoping that everyone knows that it wasn't acceptable.
47:39
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't that thorough.
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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I guess statistically and defensively it was.
47:45
[UNKNOWN]: Again, you had some turnovers, you had the muff-put that changed the thing, you had some penalties.
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[UNKNOWN]: So yes, statistically, and it was, it's not a, I'm not saying the defense went out there, I'm played a good game, and we missed it all the sudden, and it was because of these couple of things.
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[UNKNOWN]: But you're also going against the team that is dynamic in every facet of the game,
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[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers are going to be able to go into Atlanta and I and you can tell me they got Drake London you can tell me they have cow pits you can tell me who's the other guy that they got the the wide receiver that they got running for them and you're going I'm going to tell you this we got JC horn we've got Mike Jackson we've got enough to just be competitive on a
48:37
[UNKNOWN]: we can sell out.
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[UNKNOWN]: We can sell out completely against the run for the next two weeks because and I don't care if it's Cooper Rush or if it's whoever they if two or comes back.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm saying this the Carolina Panthers need to just completely say out the secondary y'all mugs are on your own.
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[UNKNOWN]: Make it happen.
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[UNKNOWN]: We are selling out against the run and you can do that again against the Sean Watson.
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[UNKNOWN]: The game was the bear's or dynamic, but really they're extra dynamic because Caleb Williams when the defense did make plays that pressured that collapsed the pocket.
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[UNKNOWN]: He then turned those plays into negatives like you would see and there were go, oh well you can't keep the edge.
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[UNKNOWN]: Like there's this one play where he's like he's running to the right and there's like
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[UNKNOWN]: edge contained.
49:35
[UNKNOWN]: This motherfucker just outran him.
49:37
[UNKNOWN]: It doesn't matter.
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[UNKNOWN]: He would have had to have run diagonally back from like 10 seconds earlier.
49:43
[UNKNOWN]: There was no way you could keep edge contained.
49:46
[UNKNOWN]: And ultimately what I saw from Caleb Williams is kind of like what we were all just hope it from Cam Newton and the Panthers.
49:54
[UNKNOWN]: During that time, it's like 50 to just 59 points a week,
49:59
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm gonna do this get even when plays broke down.
50:02
[UNKNOWN]: They turned into 20 arcdans and I wouldn't say it was just like, oh, everybody blew their assignment.
50:07
[UNKNOWN]: It was just this mug can run faster than you and throw farther than everybody.
50:13
[UNKNOWN]: toy that's very logical, but I've just we've been through this song and dance before that mindset that loads of the sleep of surely it can't get worse than this, right?
50:25
[UNKNOWN]: Truly big and better from here, like I at a certain point you have to protect your inner peace.
50:31
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know how comfortable I feel just
50:35
[UNKNOWN]: Giving this team the benefit of the doubt.
50:38
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just I'm not doing it like I always say it's prove it season For everyone and I felt like all fence was out there trying to prove it
50:49
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like I proved it.
50:50
[UNKNOWN]: They played their fucking best game.
50:52
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not even in defense.
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[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like I didn't know their asshole from a hole in the fucking round.
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[UNKNOWN]: That's who the difference.
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[UNKNOWN]: CK.
51:01
[UNKNOWN]: No, you're not mad at a 58 point.
51:05
[UNKNOWN]: I think sometimes I think some of this is taking away from what the other team did, CK.
51:11
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm like, oh my gosh, the defense just fucking blew this game.
51:17
[UNKNOWN]: I'm walking away like just from mass it and here going man our offense fucking finally caught breath I live and did this the defense like we don't have to
51:28
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, oh my god, our defense, we could not rely on them.
51:32
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, we said, if they got over 31 points, this was over.
51:35
[UNKNOWN]: And the game was at 24, 24, half.
51:38
[UNKNOWN]: It was destined for this.
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[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
51:41
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I, I know.
51:42
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, also felt like we could hold just lean into the era.
51:46
[UNKNOWN]: We can lean into the defensive, just swirl of shit.
51:50
[UNKNOWN]: But to me, I would rather have a team
51:57
[UNKNOWN]: a little punch to it, which they showed the most punch I have seen in eight years.
52:05
[UNKNOWN]: And then saying this is all right, this defense flip, we've had some games to where we've given up 260 yards rushing in the last five years.
52:15
[UNKNOWN]: And we didn't just go, oh, it was like we gave up 260 yards and then we only scored three.
52:28
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think anybody expects anybody to panic right now, right?
52:33
[UNKNOWN]: We always have an overreaction the first week.
52:36
[UNKNOWN]: The problem, the over, the, I have, in my opinion, maybe even underreaction to the Evaro situation is that this has been a candle burning at both ends for four years.
52:47
[UNKNOWN]: He should have never been brought back on when we had a new head coaching staff come on.
52:51
[UNKNOWN]: You know, after he was, he was a part of the Frank Breyer, right?
52:55
[UNKNOWN]: There was no reason to bring him back on for that.
52:59
[UNKNOWN]: And then that, after that year ended in such a horrible way,
53:02
[UNKNOWN]: the continued to keep him on two more years after mediocrity, that's the part that I think is hard to keep, you know, to balance.
53:10
[UNKNOWN]: I agree with everything you're saying.
53:12
[UNKNOWN]: I think that the difference here is we have a week one performance from Bryce that he has not had yet.
53:19
[UNKNOWN]: This is going back into our conversation.
53:21
[UNKNOWN]: We've ever performance we've ever had from Bryce.
53:24
[UNKNOWN]: To me, this is the best game
53:27
[UNKNOWN]: I, well, I mean, you, he broke Panthers records against Atlanta.
53:31
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, I mean, but like I think that you're from behind, though, you are, I think there's some constant.
53:38
[UNKNOWN]: And against a good team.
53:40
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, that's what I'm saying.
53:41
[UNKNOWN]: Against a good team.
53:42
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that doesn't mean, you know, like, and also, you know, you know, it's even more, it was the first game of the season.
53:50
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
53:51
[UNKNOWN]: Bryce Young has been an notoriously slow starter and the fact that this Panthers offense was able to go out there and not just look confident, but look potent.
54:03
[UNKNOWN]: That's important.
54:04
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's an impotent.
54:06
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we're pardoned by his ability to move the ball and not just move it, but push the ball down feel.
54:16
[UNKNOWN]: That matters.
54:17
[UNKNOWN]: That's important.
54:19
[UNKNOWN]: Save this Vegas Panther's Drew.
54:21
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for the $5 super chat.
54:23
[UNKNOWN]: We're not going to not get to this save this for the Excel talk because we've got Excel talk, but I want to ask you this and I'm going to ask you guys all of us to say this yes or no, and then how do if you could put up a YouTube poll would be incredible.
54:40
[UNKNOWN]: Was this price young's best game?
54:43
[UNKNOWN]: Yes or no, and to me, it's a resounding yes.
54:49
[UNKNOWN]: And my answer to you guys and you and the people in the chat, the people that take the poll can make their own decisions has a statistically thrown for more yards is my answer is like, yeah, he has, but this is the best I've seen Bryce play Cody you alluded to it is that it was not only good competition, but not even just good competition is that the game wasn't.
55:19
[UNKNOWN]: Um, perfect for him and not like that.
55:22
[UNKNOWN]: He wasn't perfect.
55:23
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't like.
55:23
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, where it was right.
55:26
[UNKNOWN]: Where throw like this mug is having to come back in moments like already like his like there's no stopping this this Chicago offense if you don't score on this drive and guess what nobody who didn't make a mistake ultimately Bryce I know he had one pick, but he was basically flawless in like
55:48
[UNKNOWN]: And what's actually is a great story of Bryce is he's like that at that moment is like you I don't know if you guys remember Mike Tyson punch out where you hit the star and the little guy has to go up is that he is punching outside of his weight class and fucking making punches CK this was not resoundingly by far the
56:10
[UNKNOWN]: I'm saying this.
56:11
[UNKNOWN]: Best price have seen the the argue that I think that it's at least in the it's obviously in the top two right in my opinion.
56:19
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is a fantastic resume building type of the game and it's a great way to start a contract here.
56:26
[UNKNOWN]: Right, you know, it's a fantastic way if you're trying to get that money right and it's the worst case scenario if you've been somebody who's been bullish on, you know, or somebody who's been hesitant on the idea of signing price early just to save money because right now, if this, if this, if that much money to the contract, this game didn't just add $40 million, so no, no, but if
56:50
[UNKNOWN]: If it doesn't happen, the right direction fine.
56:53
[UNKNOWN]: I'll take it.
56:54
[UNKNOWN]: If this continues, you're talking about paying him potentially top five quarterback money at by the end of the year.
56:59
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
57:00
[UNKNOWN]: Okay.
57:00
[UNKNOWN]: But here's here's here's what I I would say with with regard to this, the the most impressive part about this is there wasn't anything easy about it.
57:11
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't that we did our run game going right it wasn't it wasn't that he was throwing into tight windows Or I'm sorry a wide open receivers.
57:20
[UNKNOWN]: He was throwing into tight windows long coverage is Manuvering in the pocket that like I was talking about that
57:28
[UNKNOWN]: All outlets zero blitz that they sent to Bryce the best one ball over to T. Mac on the left and before It was in his hands before he didn't know it's coming.
57:38
[UNKNOWN]: It was no shit.
57:39
[UNKNOWN]: It's in my face, right?
57:40
[UNKNOWN]: It was it was that, but even at the other side of this that that passed a Jonathan Brooks that was just like he
57:48
[UNKNOWN]: Brooks didn't know where to go and Bryce Young did this like little like thing telling him to go forward and they did they just put that ball in the most perfect spot that allowed John the Brooks to get 40 yards on the same time call back to the same the most in control of the offense and all the chaos around him that I've ever seen him.
58:12
[UNKNOWN]: He took that to him, and he took that down.
58:15
[UNKNOWN]: He took that step towards looking like a maestro.
58:18
[UNKNOWN]: Like he is literally the one that is orchestrating the chaos.
58:24
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
58:25
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I agree with that.
58:26
[UNKNOWN]: And I think that they say there's a moment where you're where the game's fast and it slows down.
58:33
[UNKNOWN]: And to me, I saw a couple plays.
58:36
[UNKNOWN]: I was worried in the first one when he was like, he didn't know what to do it.
58:40
[UNKNOWN]: Like in the first drive or something.
58:41
[UNKNOWN]: And he took a sack or it.
58:43
[UNKNOWN]: Um, but he would the pocket was not perfect at times.
58:48
[UNKNOWN]: And he would navigate and we do this.
58:50
[UNKNOWN]: But he knew.
58:52
[UNKNOWN]: like the right thing and put it in the right place where the game wasn't too fast for him.
58:57
[UNKNOWN]: I think the Darren Waller touchdown that was called back.
59:00
[UNKNOWN]: And obviously we got to give I want to give some credit to for other players making play not just he put it on them and they actually make the play.
59:09
[UNKNOWN]: I will say this is Jaylin Coker if we ain't celebrating this motherfucker, you don't know what to celebrate because this guy is the most he's just like the most boring dude to he's I mean and I'm not I don't mean bored but like he's just like yeah I'm just trying to do all about business like he's like no he reminds me there's a bit of DJ more when DJ was here because DJ also wasn't a talker
59:39
[UNKNOWN]: But Jaylin Coker just like DJ you know they're gonna show up and that fucking show out dude that catch that Jaylin Coker made And why is it not on the chart here?
59:52
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like one did this
59:54
[UNKNOWN]: The Jalen Coker catch.
59:56
[UNKNOWN]: I thought was on the right side.
59:57
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, it was part of the green dot you're talking.
1:00:00
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's that one.
1:00:02
[UNKNOWN]: No, the green dot is that it was a it was a dime pass.
1:00:08
[UNKNOWN]: It was a tough catch.
1:00:10
[UNKNOWN]: No, I mean, it is.
1:00:11
[UNKNOWN]: It was off to the right side of the film.
1:00:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I think it was this dot.
1:00:17
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't for a touch.
1:00:18
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:00:19
[UNKNOWN]: That toe taps required both.
1:00:21
[UNKNOWN]: It required a great read, a great pass, a great throw.
1:00:25
[UNKNOWN]: You can say, oh, the pass was seven inches off, but like poker made it happen when price made it happen.
1:00:34
[UNKNOWN]: Everything up.
1:00:36
[UNKNOWN]: It was incredible.
1:00:37
[UNKNOWN]: This to me, by far, prices best game I've ever seen.
1:00:42
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, message out to Vegas Drew since coming from a Bryan's hater.
1:00:47
[UNKNOWN]: This is hands down the best game with layered throws, deep balls, scrambles, and zero dedication to the run.
1:00:56
[UNKNOWN]: Also the first game of the season.
1:00:57
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I said earlier, man.
1:00:58
[UNKNOWN]: Like to me, this is...
1:01:01
[UNKNOWN]: this is indicative of where you want to go with Bryce Young.
1:01:05
[UNKNOWN]: Knowing that he hasn't been a fast starter, that he hasn't been a player that burns it up.
1:01:12
[UNKNOWN]: I mean literally unless he's playing anyone but the Falcons, right?
1:01:16
[UNKNOWN]: Andy put his body, I won't say put his body on the line.
1:01:19
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that's not much.
1:01:21
[UNKNOWN]: But if you watch Monday night, I watched Monday night football for just like I've worked all day.
1:01:27
[UNKNOWN]: I had a lot.
1:01:28
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, I got to go to bed early.
1:01:30
[UNKNOWN]: I'll catch the rest of the game after the first quarter tomorrow morning.
1:01:36
[UNKNOWN]: I was worried about Patrick my homes.
1:01:38
[UNKNOWN]: His knee, like is he going to be able to come back.
1:01:43
[UNKNOWN]: But Patrick my homes made a clear couple of statements
1:01:51
[UNKNOWN]: his body on the line for the team.
1:01:55
[UNKNOWN]: Like where he was like, fuck it, I'm going for this end zone.
1:01:58
[UNKNOWN]: I don't give a shit about my injuries, my body type.
1:02:03
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing, I'm here to win and Bryce does that.
1:02:08
[UNKNOWN]: This little eady, bitty, wonderful person.
1:02:14
[UNKNOWN]: It's like this is like, there is no time but now.
1:02:17
[UNKNOWN]: And he did that several times in this game.
1:02:22
[UNKNOWN]: He's over to shoulder God in the in zone.
1:02:26
[UNKNOWN]: There's no time but now.
1:02:28
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:02:28
[UNKNOWN]: And we've said that about number four.
1:02:30
[UNKNOWN]: Bryce's tough as nails.
1:02:33
[UNKNOWN]: He is not afraid to throw his body around.
1:02:36
[UNKNOWN]: He's not afraid to take a hit.
1:02:39
[UNKNOWN]: like the dude is tough, you know, durability is not an issue with Bryce Young and remember that was the conversation.
1:02:47
[UNKNOWN]: That was the conversation around Bryce coming out comparing him with Anthony Richardson was like, oh, did you go with the bigger stronger quarterback?
1:02:57
[UNKNOWN]: That dude has been nothing but hurt since the moment that he came into the NFL and I don't even think he's on a team right now.
1:03:05
[UNKNOWN]: Is that just like third string on the cults?
1:03:08
[UNKNOWN]: Bride also on this e. How old is he?
1:03:10
[UNKNOWN]: Only 24, right?
1:03:12
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I think that's that.
1:03:14
[UNKNOWN]: That's 2425.
1:03:15
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, 2425.
1:03:16
[UNKNOWN]: By the way, how about this?
1:03:18
[UNKNOWN]: Bride's young is number three.
1:03:21
[UNKNOWN]: in passing yards and all the NFL on the behind Tyler's shock of all people and Jordan love for the Packers and also had better games than both of those mugs who were just late hero kind of trying to come back hero throws.
1:03:39
[UNKNOWN]: I do think this is Bryce Young.
1:03:41
[UNKNOWN]: I do.
1:03:41
[UNKNOWN]: I remember I used to skate when I was younger, like as like if I went out and tried to skate now and like I took a fucking dropped in on that half pipe.
1:03:55
[UNKNOWN]: Like my bones just can't take.
1:03:57
[UNKNOWN]: He has got more malleable young bones at that point.
1:04:02
[UNKNOWN]: Like he does bounce off of people, but he did everything.
1:04:06
[UNKNOWN]: And what I saw the most from Bryce, and I think this is what was the real difference from me and what needs to be from Bryce continued going forward.
1:04:19
[UNKNOWN]: pocket breaks up a little bit.
1:04:21
[UNKNOWN]: You get a little space.
1:04:23
[UNKNOWN]: He moved forward.
1:04:26
[UNKNOWN]: He was always moving forward in this game.
1:04:29
[UNKNOWN]: Like he wasn't running forward.
1:04:31
[UNKNOWN]: Like I'm running, but he was not dropping back, always dropping, dropping, dropping, dropping.
1:04:36
[UNKNOWN]: He was moving forward.
1:04:38
[UNKNOWN]: I was downfield.
1:04:39
[UNKNOWN]: And his body momentum was always in that.
1:04:42
[UNKNOWN]: And he threw, he launched a ball.
1:04:45
[UNKNOWN]: This is the Bryce that you need to have
1:04:48
[UNKNOWN]: We looked at, I looked at some of the Alabama tape and he just had these clean as fuck pockets.
1:04:53
[UNKNOWN]: That's not going to happen in FL.
1:04:55
[UNKNOWN]: He was moving forward, throwing the ball forward.
1:04:58
[UNKNOWN]: It gave him what I saw was more arm power.
1:05:02
[UNKNOWN]: I saw him throwing the ball deeper farther downfield than I've ever seen in this game.
1:05:08
[UNKNOWN]: And the passing chart backs it up.
1:05:11
[UNKNOWN]: I'm gonna do it, look at that touchdown.
1:05:14
[UNKNOWN]: What does it have to be about 53, 55 yards?
1:05:17
[UNKNOWN]: I heard this.
1:05:19
[UNKNOWN]: I heard that it was 55 in the air.
1:05:22
[UNKNOWN]: I heard it was 55 in the air.
1:05:26
[UNKNOWN]: And that Cam Newton's longest ever in the air was 53.
1:05:33
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like right in that.
1:05:35
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I don't know, but this was a price, this is the price that needs to be price.
1:05:45
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if you guys remember when we had a jail and co-chorus father on, and I'd asked him how it felt for jailing in that Cowboys game when he had that.
1:05:55
[UNKNOWN]: at the end of the half, he had that little night 92 yard touchdown run, Pat Gio, catch.
1:06:01
[UNKNOWN]: And knowing that he had this massive play, breakout moment that, you know, and maybe even a breakout game in his rookie year, and it was a loss that was pretty massive by the way to the same Cooper Rush.
1:06:15
[UNKNOWN]: We're about to face this Sunday.
1:06:18
[UNKNOWN]: And you know, almost want to
1:06:25
[UNKNOWN]: deserves to be able to celebrate what he did on Sunday.
1:06:28
[UNKNOWN]: But as a leader, you can't.
1:06:30
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
1:06:30
[UNKNOWN]: You failed.
1:06:31
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
1:06:31
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:06:32
[UNKNOWN]: And no, I can fail.
1:06:33
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't fail.
1:06:34
[UNKNOWN]: You just can't you can't just crown like you can't just say I didn't lose this.
1:06:42
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
1:06:42
[UNKNOWN]: And here's the thing is you got to keep in mind too.
1:06:45
[UNKNOWN]: By the way, I'm not buying the fact that bears said they left points on the field.
1:06:49
[UNKNOWN]: But we, we, we gave them 14 points because of stupid penalties.
1:06:56
[UNKNOWN]: Like, no, we, the 59 is exactly where they should have been.
1:07:00
[UNKNOWN]: There is no points left on the field.
1:07:02
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
1:07:02
[UNKNOWN]: On, if you want to argue that the Panthers left points on the field because of that, that T-Mac fumble that would have put us up at least within a score and then on top of that at the end they pulled Bryce and the starters out and then just rain the ball had no intention of scoring again, which I would thought was a really poor decision.
1:07:23
[UNKNOWN]: When you're trying to get at least some reps on this for these backups that you put in there with that can you pick it not put in the ball on the air once letting these guys try to prove what they can do even if it was garbage time does not matter that was such a that was such a roll over and I move that I hated hated so much from our coaching staff I think they should in my opinion I understand why they did it I would have liked to see Bryce go out there because let's be real his numbers would have been over 400 yards that they let him stay in the game and
1:07:52
[UNKNOWN]: actually deal that ball down the field.
1:07:54
[UNKNOWN]: By the way, Eddie asked us, you guys buying the bear saying that the points on the field?
1:08:01
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I actually didn't buy that.
1:08:03
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not.
1:08:04
[UNKNOWN]: I actually didn't buy that.
1:08:07
[UNKNOWN]: I think they could have put up 60.
1:08:10
[UNKNOWN]: But no, I mean, of course, that's one more point.
1:08:12
[UNKNOWN]: I think that they could have tried to be more aggressive in a couple of situations or something like that.
1:08:19
[UNKNOWN]: We gave them 14 points.
1:08:22
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that doesn't matter if they buy that end.
1:08:27
[UNKNOWN]: That's not where they're talking about when they say, we gave up points is like, how is your aggressive mentality?
1:08:34
[UNKNOWN]: Like, could we, it like the,
1:08:36
[UNKNOWN]: down to the wire could we have fucking been like let's call this.
1:08:41
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm saying that 359 was the right number, right?
1:08:46
[UNKNOWN]: Because I had they I don't want any more, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I don't think I don't think 59.
1:08:53
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that they left any points on the field because we gave them 14 points that they might have been able to make up if they were more aggressive.
1:09:06
[UNKNOWN]: I want to say shit on too much, but it's like, I heard this on WFNZ worst game, and not actually that made it sound more, it's like the worst game they've seen, Derek Brown play, my fucker had a penalty.
1:09:24
[UNKNOWN]: two penalties.
1:09:25
[UNKNOWN]: That game for another penalty.
1:09:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like something that you would never expect from a veteran player.
1:09:32
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:09:33
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to be like, is like, you, you're not thinking that that's what you want to just show that bitch down a little bit.
1:09:41
[UNKNOWN]: No, I don't a three literally.
1:09:43
[UNKNOWN]: One cannot do that.
1:09:45
[UNKNOWN]: I don't understand.
1:09:47
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:09:47
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:09:48
[UNKNOWN]: Tony, maybe that one.
1:09:52
[UNKNOWN]: caught on Jimmy Horton doing it, but you're one of the best players.
1:09:58
[UNKNOWN]: You're above that.
1:09:59
[UNKNOWN]: Sorry, you're better than doing that than hurting your team in that kind of way.
1:10:03
[UNKNOWN]: It's no purpose.
1:10:05
[UNKNOWN]: No purpose.
1:10:06
[UNKNOWN]: And you're working with a fucking momentum.
1:10:09
[UNKNOWN]: That's not true.
1:10:09
[UNKNOWN]: That's not true.
1:10:10
[UNKNOWN]: It did not even feel like that.
1:10:13
[UNKNOWN]: There was some frustration to it.
1:10:15
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
1:10:16
[UNKNOWN]: Can you?
1:10:16
[UNKNOWN]: I believe that.
1:10:21
[UNKNOWN]: He's the lowest grader.
1:10:23
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I don't think I wanted to say too, I don't think Lee Hunter is ready to be no tackle.
1:10:33
[UNKNOWN]: I think they need to put cam Jackson in it.
1:10:35
[UNKNOWN]: I don't feel like I don't feel Lee Hunter has proven enough that he's willing and able to be a competitor starter.
1:10:44
[UNKNOWN]: I think.
1:10:44
[UNKNOWN]: And Derek Lee on the field together.
1:10:50
[UNKNOWN]: They did not actually get money to money and not have money when there's that's that's it was listed number one four reason they need to give him that spot until the hundred is actually where he also said that we'll need the third had a good game and he had the worst fucking game
1:11:14
[UNKNOWN]: No, you're just a Muslim, really.
1:11:17
[UNKNOWN]: We'll meet him on Lee Hunter.
1:11:19
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no one break out player.
1:11:22
[UNKNOWN]: Any good thing that Lee Hunter did is that my fuck, that my got pressure, he did, no, I don't think if you look back, go back and look at the tape, I don't think we'll leave.
1:11:34
[UNKNOWN]: We're a little less of a problem, I think.
1:11:37
[UNKNOWN]: No, Lee Hunter was a problem.
1:11:39
[UNKNOWN]: I think will Lee was a problem.
1:11:41
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go back and take another call.
1:11:43
[UNKNOWN]: The number's 252 228 59 here.
1:11:45
[UNKNOWN]: We got a lot of shit to go.
1:11:48
[UNKNOWN]: Yo, yo, yo, yo, what's happening?
1:11:50
[UNKNOWN]: What's wrong with you?
1:11:51
[UNKNOWN]: What happened?
1:11:52
[UNKNOWN]: Yo, bro, bro.
1:11:54
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so sick of hearing through the talk about Excel.
1:11:57
[UNKNOWN]: I get it.
1:11:57
[UNKNOWN]: I don't like them.
1:11:58
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want to drive them.
1:12:00
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
1:12:01
[UNKNOWN]: This team scored 37 fucking points.
1:12:04
[UNKNOWN]: And he's for Super 3.
1:12:06
[UNKNOWN]: Why is he coming up?
1:12:08
[UNKNOWN]: Why is he in a conversation?
1:12:09
[UNKNOWN]: Our defense just drew him.
1:12:11
[UNKNOWN]: Let 59 points, like, that's a record.
1:12:16
[UNKNOWN]: He carried on a history.
1:12:18
[UNKNOWN]: Can people like that start off?
1:12:20
[UNKNOWN]: What is that?
1:12:21
[UNKNOWN]: What is that?
1:12:22
[UNKNOWN]: What is that?
1:12:23
[UNKNOWN]: You can spell fuck.
1:12:24
[UNKNOWN]: Our offense score 37, fucking point.
1:12:26
[UNKNOWN]: Our defense gave up 59 points.
1:12:28
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and he wasn't a part of the video of it.
1:12:32
[UNKNOWN]: What are we doing here?
1:12:33
[UNKNOWN]: I don't get it.
1:12:36
[UNKNOWN]: He's talking to me too, you know, talking about Mike Evans, or I don't know who, who Evans, wherever the fucking name is, type in.
1:12:43
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I get it, I don't want to drop them, get over it, is here.
1:12:48
[UNKNOWN]: You know, as far as the defense goes, you know, guard what trash, like, they're playing Atlanta with Camille Leads.
1:12:57
[UNKNOWN]: It was Cooper Rush.
1:12:59
[UNKNOWN]: And we can't do anything against Cooper Rush and the Falcons, it's over.
1:13:02
[UNKNOWN]: The season's done.
1:13:05
[UNKNOWN]: If we cannot do anything against it, land off and I mean my God.
1:13:10
[UNKNOWN]: I'm like, there's no, I don't even know what to do as we can show up on defense.
1:13:21
[UNKNOWN]: No, but I don't know.
1:13:22
[UNKNOWN]: I'm just so sick of hearing that.
1:13:23
[UNKNOWN]: So I was just saying, y'all, you know, I can go, whatever, but like, come on, we just scored 37 points and he was receiving three.
1:13:47
[UNKNOWN]: So I'll get cause they didn't want to draft them.
1:13:50
[UNKNOWN]: Why do you crash?
1:13:51
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Kevin's like- Why are you talking about Excel so we're not mixed up?
1:13:56
[UNKNOWN]: How about that?
1:13:57
[UNKNOWN]: Next time.
1:13:57
[UNKNOWN]: My fucking almost threw through Caleb Williams I have a game.
1:14:00
[UNKNOWN]: What ever so complicated to Smith's above, is that on a day when the Carolina Panthers put up 37 points Xavier, like that, was nowhere to be found.
1:14:14
[UNKNOWN]: He isn't after thought in this office.
1:14:16
[UNKNOWN]: He is irrelevant.
1:14:18
[UNKNOWN]: No defenders of game plan for him.
1:14:21
[UNKNOWN]: They don't care where he's at on the field.
1:14:24
[UNKNOWN]: Even on the broadcast, Drew Breeze and the other guy calling and said, Xavier, again, there's more of a body catcher than anything.
1:14:33
[UNKNOWN]: They're roasting him on the broadcast.
1:14:37
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, he isn't afterthought.
1:14:40
[UNKNOWN]: He has been such a disappointment.
1:14:42
[UNKNOWN]: No one is blaming the loss on Xavier Look at him.
1:14:46
[UNKNOWN]: No, he's not a single person, but he isn't absolute nothing burger and this offense And I don't know how anyone could have any hope at this point that somehow Excel is just going to Break out and be some magical weapon for us in the next two games like who is actually expecting that
1:15:07
[UNKNOWN]: No one, CK this right here at what point and we could answer at what point what at what point I mean, I guess in the most extreme sentences at what point is he considered a bus.
1:15:23
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't even think of it like this is I thought this I was sitting in the reflection of this game going 37 points.
1:15:32
[UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panther, I mean, look, and you could say, I mean, and I actually not, you could say, I will say this is like 37 points and fucking team act is like two catches or whatever a non-existent force in this moment.
1:15:47
[UNKNOWN]: But at what point is Xavier would get a part of the offense?
1:15:53
[UNKNOWN]: That's a lot of masking.
1:15:58
[UNKNOWN]: Not as he wears a first round pick, is he?
1:16:00
[UNKNOWN]: He's just really good at least 25 yards per game.
1:16:04
[UNKNOWN]: Or at what point he wears being on the roster?
1:16:07
[UNKNOWN]: Or are you going to be part of the game plan?
1:16:10
[UNKNOWN]: I won't, I don't know what to conclude about anything
1:16:15
[UNKNOWN]: Then it was like, I have a position, but Kev at what point?
1:16:22
[UNKNOWN]: So you go, Xavier LaGat should be existed.
1:16:27
[UNKNOWN]: You should be on this fucking Earth and the argument that I would have is I don't even necessarily say that it's all like so.
1:16:34
[UNKNOWN]: It is just abundantly clear that his connection with Bryce Young is not the same that it is which.
1:16:39
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:16:40
[UNKNOWN]: And jelly cocker.
1:16:42
[UNKNOWN]: How is it like cocker doing all of this?
1:16:44
[UNKNOWN]: Think about it.
1:16:45
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:16:47
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, he's he's come in.
1:16:48
[UNKNOWN]: He's a better round runner.
1:16:50
[UNKNOWN]: He's a better catcher.
1:16:51
[UNKNOWN]: We all mentioned that Coker drops absolutely nothing.
1:16:55
[UNKNOWN]: And he's like, we don't even get an Excel ball.
1:16:58
[UNKNOWN]: That's like, oh, price didn't put it to him.
1:17:02
[UNKNOWN]: Price didn't look.
1:17:03
[UNKNOWN]: Price didn't do this.
1:17:05
[UNKNOWN]: Excel dropped it.
1:17:06
[UNKNOWN]: It could have been great.
1:17:08
[UNKNOWN]: He was just non-existent other than the one screen
1:17:18
[UNKNOWN]: Just missing in action.
1:17:20
[UNKNOWN]: That's all I would say is this is fine.
1:17:22
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not talking with shit, but where I don't remember you.
1:17:26
[UNKNOWN]: Well, that's the issue is that if he's not going to be a part of the offensive game plan, we need to put somebody in who is.
1:17:33
[UNKNOWN]: And this is where we have all been, and Kevin can acknowledge this.
1:17:38
[UNKNOWN]: We've all been defenders of Excel saying that getting rid of him too early is like throwing the baby out with the bath water, right?
1:17:45
[UNKNOWN]: The idea of him not being able to develop being a first round pick, we need to be able to allow this guy to get because we always knew he was going to be a
1:17:55
[UNKNOWN]: the difficult thing right now is even if he is progressing the way that he should be it's not translating into his in the actual production on the field and it's some point whether or not it's Excel's fault or it's just the way that he's not really a part of the game plan at some point you've got to put somebody else in that has that chemistry with with the price that is able to actually be where what he needs when he needs it and it just doesn't seem to be Excel.
1:18:21
[UNKNOWN]: and CK, I think they already did it.
1:18:23
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's literally why they drafted Brassel.
1:18:26
[UNKNOWN]: Like dude, if Brassel was not injured and a part of this offense, we might have cut Xavier look at it.
1:18:35
[UNKNOWN]: He might have been in his opinion.
1:18:36
[UNKNOWN]: There is nothing to Xavier look at.
1:18:40
[UNKNOWN]: Game that the Carolina Panthers are in need of.
1:18:44
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't offer a deep threat.
1:18:46
[UNKNOWN]: He doesn't offer much across the middle.
1:18:49
[UNKNOWN]: His awareness is next to none.
1:18:53
[UNKNOWN]: He's still dropping rudimentary passes, putting right on him.
1:18:58
[UNKNOWN]: Like...
1:18:59
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what anyone wants us to say.
1:19:02
[UNKNOWN]: Like XL is, he's an afterthought.
1:19:06
[UNKNOWN]: He means nothing to this offense.
1:19:10
[UNKNOWN]: And I think it's going to be interesting to watch, going forward, how much does his role change?
1:19:18
[UNKNOWN]: like, are they going to get metry more involved?
1:19:21
[UNKNOWN]: Are they going to, you know, maybe give Bryson tremendous some looks like, they have to ask you at some point.
1:19:28
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm sorry, like, I'm not against that.
1:19:33
[UNKNOWN]: And Kathy can say, like, what are you talking about?
1:19:36
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you don't ever want them and there's not.
1:19:38
[UNKNOWN]: Like, get over that.
1:19:39
[UNKNOWN]: It's how about this is that want us to whine up some receivers that just fucking matter.
1:19:48
[UNKNOWN]: I just not existed.
1:19:49
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, you're like, I mean, you go around from that game and I can say, oh, he's a body catcher.
1:19:55
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you just talking bad about him because you put him in tough spot.
1:19:59
[UNKNOWN]: Fine.
1:19:59
[UNKNOWN]: But you know what?
1:20:00
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember my man at all.
1:20:03
[UNKNOWN]: I don't remember shit.
1:20:05
[UNKNOWN]: And the idea and to me, this is a little bizarre and I will put a little, I'm not saying
1:20:14
[UNKNOWN]: It's, isn't it bananas that the Panthers scored 37 and we have nothing to say about the former offensive rookie of the year.
1:20:22
[UNKNOWN]: No, Excel's not existed.
1:20:25
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, how well did we even score 34?
1:20:28
[UNKNOWN]: That's what I wanted.
1:20:30
[UNKNOWN]: And a, and a game where we put up 37, he was targeted one time on a bubble screen and fucking dropped it.
1:20:41
[UNKNOWN]: like what we're doing.
1:20:43
[UNKNOWN]: It did not listen, man.
1:20:46
[UNKNOWN]: Kevin says, oh, Joseph didn't like him because, you know, you didn't want to draft him.
1:20:51
[UNKNOWN]: I didn't want to draft by his young.
1:20:53
[UNKNOWN]: You see me excited about his progression, don't you?
1:20:56
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, okay.
1:20:58
[UNKNOWN]: So it doesn't matter who we wanted to draft.
1:21:01
[UNKNOWN]: We need to see production.
1:21:03
[UNKNOWN]: He is not producing.
1:21:06
[UNKNOWN]: It's bad.
1:21:07
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1:21:30
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, what's next up in the show?
1:21:33
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, listen, so we talked a little bit about Xavier again and why shouldn't we, right, but can we talk about the star of the show, the guy from the same draft class, he was an undrafted free agent.
1:21:49
[UNKNOWN]: And he is undeniably wide receiver too and you know what Tony he could even be wide receiver one.
1:21:58
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like there's no one on this.
1:22:00
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not dismissing all the incredible things that Bryce and Tettaroa did last year, but dude, I'm telling you Bryce has this next level trust.
1:22:14
[UNKNOWN]: with the man Jalen Coker, who right now has 130 receiving yards that's 4th in the NFL.
1:22:24
[UNKNOWN]: My man had a career high in yards at 130 career high in receptions at 8 and a career high in Tudds at 2 of them.
1:22:37
[UNKNOWN]: He is the top graded wide receiver.
1:22:41
[UNKNOWN]: in week one Tony this dude is the man I'm so happy and Tony when I tried to look up some articles it was all just about fantasy football how he was only played 50% of the time the other
1:23:03
[UNKNOWN]: in fancy football.
1:23:04
[UNKNOWN]: I will be playing Jalen Coker in fantasy next week.
1:23:08
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I would be careful playing him in fantasy overall because you have to then bet on the Panthers, offense, just exploding each week.
1:23:18
[UNKNOWN]: But I think here, my celebration here comes back to we talked about Jimmy Horn Jr. And they continued bubble effect that is you can't make a mistake
1:23:32
[UNKNOWN]: Let's give it to Jalen Coker for being an undrafted free agent and every moment that he has been called and his numbers been put on He has thrived Cody in the post game show.
1:23:43
[UNKNOWN]: You said he should drop anything Never I mean like in big moments.
1:23:49
[UNKNOWN]: He makes a play.
1:23:50
[UNKNOWN]: He's beat his beaten guys.
1:23:52
[UNKNOWN]: He's making big plays.
1:23:53
[UNKNOWN]: There's been nothing
1:23:55
[UNKNOWN]: that he has done wrong in the moment.
1:23:57
[UNKNOWN]: His number was called and fortunately, the Panthers realized that it gave him a contract where they could have screwed this kid on the numbers early on and gotten away with them for cheap.
1:24:08
[UNKNOWN]: The thing is, is Jalen Coker has been exceptional every time we've seen him with the football in his direction in his hands.
1:24:17
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't think
1:24:19
[UNKNOWN]: Number one.
1:24:20
[UNKNOWN]: Number one is I would say this is take number one away from him.
1:24:25
[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead and do it.
1:24:27
[UNKNOWN]: Go ahead and do it.
1:24:28
[UNKNOWN]: Someone else.
1:24:29
[UNKNOWN]: Tedorot make melon non existed in that game overall.
1:24:35
[UNKNOWN]: It may be not because of him.
1:24:36
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe because of opportunity they heard it.
1:24:44
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, Dave, you know what I said that Dennis Allen wanted to be ran man against us and basically we made them pay But I will say that it's like finally we got Ted making a big play and then that was the fumble is like and I'm not saying like, oh No, I'm not in on tech is what I am is celebrating jaylin coker for every time the balls in his hands It's fucking no mistakes none It's just fucking exceptional
1:25:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I love him.
1:25:16
[UNKNOWN]: I'm so happy that he's on the team.
1:25:18
[UNKNOWN]: Let's talk about this is Jaylin after the game not seen, but reported he was in a walker route after the game and they asked him about it and he said he did say it was precautionary that he wrote his ankle in first the first quarter.
1:25:38
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, so a little bit says it happened in the first corner, the budges just precautionary.
1:25:44
[UNKNOWN]: It is not expected to miss time.
1:25:47
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, but he said he was, I mean, hey, it's again, guess what?
1:25:51
[UNKNOWN]: We don't need this mug to miss any time.
1:25:54
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and but again, I think about what this means, though, and like this is everything tied to these two conversations together because one is the thing to the other is saying Bryce and Excel have no chemistry at all no trust never on the same page.
1:26:15
[UNKNOWN]: It's bad.
1:26:16
[UNKNOWN]: I don't even think it's just chemistry.
1:26:19
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's
1:26:20
[UNKNOWN]: when you have a moment better player what did that is a more dependable comments come something and yes, it was up in the yeah, I think in this game he had the most targets in in his entire career
1:26:39
[UNKNOWN]: and he didn't let down.
1:26:40
[UNKNOWN]: You know what I'm saying is like is you could say do you remember last year where they were worried about XL and they're like we're gonna feed them like and they fed them three times and it was like we can't do this anymore is you've gone to coke or like three times in three games and it's like a two touchdowns in 70 yards like every moment this he never lets a moment down and he's a bit he like the kid it's incredible
1:27:06
[UNKNOWN]: Well, here's the thing is I think if nothing else, I think the Rams game gave Bryce a lot more confidence and going to jail in Coker and that's can that's going to roll over into this this year as well.
1:27:19
[UNKNOWN]: I think it's only a net positive.
1:27:20
[UNKNOWN]: I think before the end of the year, we're talking about this duo in the same light as Jamar Chase and Tiggins.
1:27:29
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I mean, let's do it.
1:27:30
[UNKNOWN]: If we can find, imagine the day we need to just become a superstar.
1:27:37
[UNKNOWN]: Imagine the day, Carolina has been searching for two wide receivers for so long.
1:27:43
[UNKNOWN]: Two, we get one, we don't get two.
1:27:46
[UNKNOWN]: When you had Muhammad and Steve Smith, that's it.
1:27:50
[UNKNOWN]: Those are the two we've had together.
1:27:51
[UNKNOWN]: Never been able to put two or more than that.
1:27:54
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, what's next?
1:27:56
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, also just, uh, Jaylin Coker was indeed the highest rated player on the team.
1:28:07
[UNKNOWN]: Look, man.
1:28:08
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, I'm sorry.
1:28:09
[UNKNOWN]: Single mistake.
1:28:11
[UNKNOWN]: But there was one more point that wanted to make though, like, if it's just like last year, if Coker were to go down, like XL is so non-existent,
1:28:24
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm worried that if Coker went down and it's just T-Max, that we are not going to have a meaningful number to a wide receiver.
1:28:33
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're at Coker, they're in a wall there, I see, it's not the number two.
1:28:39
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, they're in a way.
1:28:40
[UNKNOWN]: They had on a depth chart, but I don't believe it.
1:28:43
[UNKNOWN]: I don't believe that there are other players on this giving that contribute more than that.
1:28:53
[UNKNOWN]: No, I'm not putting it out of the question that the panthers make a move on the wide receiver roll.
1:28:58
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe we should.
1:29:00
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we should, man.
1:29:01
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, I really just wonder what Chris Brasal could have meant to the team this year and what he might mean in the future.
1:29:12
[UNKNOWN]: God, that would be such an exciting piece to have right now, especially with Bryce finally feeling comfortable pushing the ball down field.
1:29:22
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, man.
1:29:23
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:29:25
[UNKNOWN]: Telling you why I'm taking the call.
1:29:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's do it.
1:29:28
[UNKNOWN]: The numbers 252, 228, 50, 90, get your voice heard on the longest running Panthers podcast, so what you've got here.
1:29:37
[UNKNOWN]: So boys, we'll time to digest the game, data calling in.
1:29:46
[UNKNOWN]: We're not tired.
1:29:48
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to get your take.
1:29:49
[UNKNOWN]: I know everybody's gonna get you.
1:29:51
[UNKNOWN]: head hunting and pitch it out for Everrow and I'm kind of there with you.
1:29:56
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I was the one that called Dan dead.
1:30:01
[UNKNOWN]: I hope that man knows how to make biscuits.
1:30:03
[UNKNOWN]: But I want to see what you just thought.
1:30:06
[UNKNOWN]: I'm looking back at the game after a little bit coming to digest and everybody's talking about how happy they are with it.
1:30:13
[UNKNOWN]: It's on plays and I was
1:30:21
[UNKNOWN]: We got Jonathan Brooks on four carries on the day.
1:30:26
[UNKNOWN]: There's that game was tied.
1:30:28
[UNKNOWN]: That game was closed.
1:30:30
[UNKNOWN]: We gave up on the run.
1:30:32
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:30:34
[UNKNOWN]: It's it to me seems like Dave can now at 2.0 to give up on the run.
1:30:41
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:30:42
[UNKNOWN]: And I want you guys to have a wonderful night.
1:30:45
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you for all you do.
1:30:47
[UNKNOWN]: And truly, C3 is the best part about being a parent just to keep poundin' boys.
1:30:53
[UNKNOWN]: You're proud of that.
1:30:55
[UNKNOWN]: Well, thank you, Tater, for the call.
1:30:56
[UNKNOWN]: Let you guys respond to this because I feel strongly about it.
1:31:02
[UNKNOWN]: So listen, when you're losing by as much as we were,
1:31:09
[UNKNOWN]: I don't necessarily hold it against Isaac for them wanting to pass the football, get drunk plays, but I do agree, Tony, you see, okay, I still don't feel like we are aggressive enough running the football and I think that we're going to have to get more aggressive too.
1:31:26
[UNKNOWN]: I want to see more AJ Dylan work him into this rotation and do we need some juice.
1:31:34
[UNKNOWN]: from Chuba and from Jonathan Brooks, because let's be real man, due last year, Rico doubted, provided such a punch early in games, like he was the beginning middle and end of our offense.
1:31:51
[UNKNOWN]: And I feel like now, because our offense did so well, passing the football, I hope that doesn't load them into a sense of, well, okay, our running game is just good enough.
1:32:03
[UNKNOWN]: you know you need to hammer it home in the big explosive place and we need it now we need to be a much more versatile team before I can truly feel comfortable about where our run game is at.
1:32:18
[UNKNOWN]: See care your thoughts.
1:32:20
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, that was probably the biggest blemish on the play calling to me is that they did not get Jonathan.
1:32:25
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, clearly he provided a spark to this offense, like I think it was abundantly clear.
1:32:31
[UNKNOWN]: No, that doesn't passing them, but I don't think that's clearly an implication on on Chuba because Chuba did have some big important runs, but there was just it wasn't automatic, right, and that's something that, you know, obviously you're not going to have a running back to be able to just.
1:32:48
[UNKNOWN]: You know, get yards at will, but I don't know that I felt like this run game was Houghton enough to keep up with what the bears were doing.
1:32:58
[UNKNOWN]: Our argument.
1:32:59
[UNKNOWN]: Sake would be that had we Committed to the run.
1:33:03
[UNKNOWN]: We would have kept the bears off of the field, but the other side is too as Bryce was doing such a good job Why take the ball out of his hands?
1:33:10
[UNKNOWN]: That's uh, I have no qualms with the way the game was called.
1:33:16
[UNKNOWN]: I think that in theory, what we said is like being able to run the ball, keep it off, keep the ball out of the hands of Caleb Williams and that offense is the right way to do, but I am not ready for this.
1:33:32
[UNKNOWN]: I was happy this is that I felt like Brad is it called the game that flowed towards the hot hand.
1:33:40
[UNKNOWN]: and the Panthers tried running a couple of times early and it just fucking didn't look good.
1:33:45
[UNKNOWN]: We and you saw people talking about it was like I saw people on Twitter saying oh it doesn't look like Jonathan of Brooks as any burst.
1:33:54
[UNKNOWN]: This that and it really just wasn't working but you know what was working is Bryce Young, Jaylin Coker, getting a ball done.
1:34:03
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers put up 37.
1:34:07
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like we don't need to manufacture a game plan but so much and I don't think they said, oh, like we could keep running it and it's gonna it's gonna work over time.
1:34:20
[UNKNOWN]: We're gonna keep running it and these motherfuckers are gonna keep scoring on every play.
1:34:25
[UNKNOWN]: And Bryce was not play.
1:34:27
[UNKNOWN]: He was not playing poorly.
1:34:29
[UNKNOWN]: We were moving the ball.
1:34:30
[UNKNOWN]: We were doing this.
1:34:31
[UNKNOWN]: So I don't think
1:34:34
[UNKNOWN]: I think this is better than what I've seen.
1:34:37
[UNKNOWN]: And I don't know, I'm not an XO guy.
1:34:40
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not like, oh, we could have done this.
1:34:42
[UNKNOWN]: Could have done that.
1:34:44
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like the place got in on time.
1:34:46
[UNKNOWN]: Bryce looked in command.
1:34:48
[UNKNOWN]: They were like moving the ball.
1:34:52
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want the Panthers.
1:34:54
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, in an ideal world.
1:34:57
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's run it down their throat and drive the clock down.
1:35:02
[UNKNOWN]: But it was not, it did not seem like we could just do that at will.
1:35:07
[UNKNOWN]: So, hey, let's do what we can when we can.
1:35:10
[UNKNOWN]: And not only are we doing what we can, when we can, it's turning into points.
1:35:16
[UNKNOWN]: So I have to say, no,
1:35:20
[UNKNOWN]: I think that this game, and I don't know, not an X and no guy, but I did not walk away from this game going, oh, this was, by the way, this was Brad, it's its first game called.
1:35:33
[UNKNOWN]: first game called in the Panthers, slugging it out with a team that put up 59 points.
1:35:40
[UNKNOWN]: I had no question, no reservations.
1:35:43
[UNKNOWN]: Let Brad is it called the players?
1:35:45
[UNKNOWN]: Dave can now let's go on the damn podium and be like, it's a team loss.
1:35:50
[UNKNOWN]: I'm Ted Lasso, whatever.
1:35:52
[UNKNOWN]: Like, I'm fine.
1:35:54
[UNKNOWN]: I have no
1:35:55
[UNKNOWN]: wanting to adjust to anywhere other than Brad is.
1:35:59
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
1:36:00
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, and hey, in different games, I'd think that it would be called differently.
1:36:06
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, to me, this is one of those things where,
1:36:10
[UNKNOWN]: I, you know, it's early in the season.
1:36:13
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not freaking out about it.
1:36:14
[UNKNOWN]: I just feel like I want this rushing attack to break off some big plays like we did last year.
1:36:21
[UNKNOWN]: Of course you do.
1:36:22
[UNKNOWN]: We all want that.
1:36:23
[UNKNOWN]: We all want that because you call it.
1:36:26
[UNKNOWN]: That's what we're working.
1:36:28
[UNKNOWN]: But I think that we need it though.
1:36:30
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think that we're going to be able to just depend on dropping back and throwing the ball for almost 400 yards.
1:36:38
[UNKNOWN]: I think it can't be depending upon doing that.
1:36:41
[UNKNOWN]: We need to break away some big runs and we need a dependable rushing attack.
1:36:45
[UNKNOWN]: And I'm not entirely sure that we're where we need to be.
1:36:50
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think that we are going to throw the right track?
1:36:52
[UNKNOWN]: Do you think the Panthers should have called more runs with the potential of going off the field quicker and letting and falling behind more?
1:37:08
[UNKNOWN]: Do you really think that the Panthers were running the ball effectively at any moment?
1:37:13
[UNKNOWN]: And they were like, they abandoned the run.
1:37:15
[UNKNOWN]: I think they leaned into what was working.
1:37:18
[UNKNOWN]: I don't the end.
1:37:19
[UNKNOWN]: I think I think this.
1:37:22
[UNKNOWN]: We've heard so many times in the past.
1:37:24
[UNKNOWN]: You can use the run to open up the pass and you can use the run.
1:37:31
[UNKNOWN]: the past to open up the run.
1:37:33
[UNKNOWN]: And the run was not working early in this game at all.
1:37:37
[UNKNOWN]: It was ineffective.
1:37:39
[UNKNOWN]: We weren't getting pushed.
1:37:40
[UNKNOWN]: There was people like no bars, nothing was happened.
1:37:43
[UNKNOWN]: But you know what?
1:37:44
[UNKNOWN]: We moved the ball.
1:37:44
[UNKNOWN]: We spread them out.
1:37:46
[UNKNOWN]: And then I felt like we did call some timely run, some timely screen passes, and got those running bags involved in the game.
1:37:53
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think they were unenvolved, Chewbe Hubbard first touched down.
1:37:57
[UNKNOWN]: Jonathan Brooks, a big cash down the, I mean, and maybe you're using the passing attack as a run in those cases, but I don't think that Brad is it was like, I think he let that develop and came back to it.
1:38:13
[UNKNOWN]: we'll see if we have to watch this develop further.
1:38:17
[UNKNOWN]: I think Brad is it has a better eye for the field than Canalist does, but again, it's early.
1:38:24
[UNKNOWN]: He's not having to manage too much.
1:38:26
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, I don't even want to say that.
1:38:27
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to just be like, he's a genius or something.
1:38:29
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, hey, it's like, I think that this structure, the
1:38:34
[UNKNOWN]: It could be beneficial for the team.
1:38:36
[UNKNOWN]: The numbers two, five, two, two, two, eight, fifty, ninety, eight.
1:38:39
[UNKNOWN]: Just a couple of calls to go.
1:38:40
[UNKNOWN]: Finish in out the show.
1:38:41
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to the next call, Cody.
1:38:44
[UNKNOWN]: Nope.
1:38:45
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, guys, this John B. Jenkins.
1:38:47
[UNKNOWN]: I'm calling live on location from my car.
1:38:51
[UNKNOWN]: The first time I've ever done it, so I don't know how the audio will come.
1:38:54
[UNKNOWN]: What I'm John B.
1:38:55
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, I just wanted to call in and give my thoughts on the game a little less, maybe an eegreated.
1:39:04
[UNKNOWN]: I was pretty disappointed in the game, but now that I've had time to think about it, and of course, say my feeling of words.
1:39:13
[UNKNOWN]: Do everyone who knows that I'm a Panthers fan, and would like to try and rub in my face that we lost 59 to 37, I would like to say that those people I would like to say all of you, gentlemen, ladies,
1:39:26
[UNKNOWN]: Ladies and gentlemen, we got ourselves in the friggin' history books.
1:39:30
[UNKNOWN]: And as a historian, I would like to just commend all of us for getting our names in that book.
1:39:38
[UNKNOWN]: Hope is, I mean, I don't know.
1:39:40
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe it would be nice for someone to erase our record by getting scored on more than we did.
1:39:45
[UNKNOWN]: But forever, and tell that happens, the Carolina Panthers will be in the NFL
1:39:55
[UNKNOWN]: And he said, Bryce Young played amazing, you know, Cody, I think to the line that you're taking on this, that is the Bryce Young you have been arguing for this whole time, that is a great way to put it, because that is exactly what we have been looking for.
1:40:11
[UNKNOWN]: I haven't had time for him to not be good, I need him to fight like he looked like he was fighting in that game.
1:40:19
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, dude, it was so much like watching in a arena football game,
1:40:24
[UNKNOWN]: I thought I was watching, never mind, I'm not even going to drop names, it's too deep out you guys don't know what I'm talking about.
1:40:31
[UNKNOWN]: But I thought I was watching a friggin' arena football game where, you know, it's supposed to be high power offenses, those offenses are supposed to score like that.
1:40:42
[UNKNOWN]: And it's all about the defense making the stop.
1:40:45
[UNKNOWN]: And guys, our defense did not make any stop, so I don't know if you guys saw that.
1:40:52
[UNKNOWN]: They did not do a very good job.
1:40:55
[UNKNOWN]: But that being said, I am still excited about him.
1:40:58
[UNKNOWN]: And the guy I'm excited about the most is 58.
1:41:01
[UNKNOWN]: Bobby Ocaricate.
1:41:02
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, can he sing about that guy?
1:41:05
[UNKNOWN]: And that makes me think that he might, I don't know, maybe he'll just surprise me by being as good as, I don't know, Kenny Luchus was that year that he came over to us from Seattle.
1:41:19
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know, I'm trying to think of somebody else,
1:41:22
[UNKNOWN]: uh... and hate you know escalate Williams and i hate to say this because it's not my quarterback and he doesn't have a skill set of can but he's not maybe the next cam mutant i guess or a wise uh... anyway that's all i got right now i love you guys jambi zingensel
1:41:43
[UNKNOWN]: Love you John B dude, look, we can be real.
1:41:46
[UNKNOWN]: We can be honest about me.
1:41:48
[UNKNOWN]: Caleb Williams looks fucking good as a quarterback dude.
1:41:53
[UNKNOWN]: He has the arm, he has the mobility, he reads the field well.
1:41:58
[UNKNOWN]: He already has that ability that like a Josh Allen has where he just trusts his arm so much.
1:42:06
[UNKNOWN]: You know, he knows that he can fit a football and sign a Nat ass.
1:42:11
[UNKNOWN]: and that's a really super power and do either have that or you don't and he has it in the abundance um and I do think when evaluating our defense too is that's also another reason to be hopeful that we ran up against a prolific offense with that quarterback who was playing the best football of his career you know it's a very unlikely that other teams are going to be able
1:42:39
[UNKNOWN]: I think Caleb Williams could have had 150 yards rush, and if he truly wanted it.
1:42:44
[UNKNOWN]: Sure.
1:42:45
[UNKNOWN]: And then, but he took, there was like seven plays where he rushed 30 yards, but they were saddled by the sideline, and then still threw the ball of 25 yards in the field.
1:42:57
[UNKNOWN]: Like he is what you want him to be right now, and that is developing into that Josh Allen type, which is mobile, but still ready to just dice you up.
1:43:14
[UNKNOWN]: I think the fact that he only had what 69 rushing arts, 70 is a understatement of what
1:43:28
[UNKNOWN]: standing plays off platform and made you pay or made us pay.
1:43:34
[UNKNOWN]: That was the thing.
1:43:35
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't just the extended play.
1:43:37
[UNKNOWN]: He made people pay down field.
1:43:41
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't just, oh, let me get a little time to dump it off.
1:43:44
[UNKNOWN]: boom boom very tough stuff.
1:43:50
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go to Joey the blind panther.
1:43:52
[UNKNOWN]: Let's do it.
1:43:53
[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, the garlic is from how it is.
1:43:56
[UNKNOWN]: Joey, I'm gonna say something and then I rock all four of you were a pita after me and then I
1:44:13
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, hey, oh, it's zero, there's got to go.
1:44:16
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1:44:41
[UNKNOWN]: Not even, you know, how we're five college footballers.
1:44:45
[UNKNOWN]: And middle America conference, USA, that's abortion, man.
1:44:52
[UNKNOWN]: And the fact that, if you were to call me that, write down Bill for 3651 yards in the Panthers scored 37 new to think from a little run, right?
1:45:03
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, on Russian, not if it's zero, if there is on your mother freaking football team.
1:45:10
[UNKNOWN]: because I'm gonna say it again.
1:45:11
[UNKNOWN]: Hey, hey, oh, oh, it's zero, zero's got to go.
1:45:13
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1:45:37
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think it's going to be enough for people to forget that we're going to have to do this again.
1:45:43
[UNKNOWN]: No, it's going to have to be against the Eagles, the Lions.
1:45:48
[UNKNOWN]: This is easy.
1:45:49
[UNKNOWN]: There are fans going to do the Broncos, do you see that?
1:45:55
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go.
1:45:55
[UNKNOWN]: No point in saying this.
1:45:58
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have to do this to a good team.
1:46:01
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to have to shut down a good team.
1:46:03
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think there's just a couple of one-off performances against the Browns or the Falcons.
1:46:09
[UNKNOWN]: This is going to have everyone forgetting how long a zero of barrel has been here.
1:46:14
[UNKNOWN]: We need a big time for your band.
1:46:17
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I think what's most important here is that the Panthers can't look ahead at all on offense or defense.
1:46:24
[UNKNOWN]: You got the Falcons and you just put it on those bishops.
1:46:28
[UNKNOWN]: Offensively, I want the Carolina Panthers coming out and trying to not say, oh, we showed you we can be prolific.
1:46:36
[UNKNOWN]: I want to come out there and beat, put the beat down on them offensively and give that defense an opportunity
1:46:46
[UNKNOWN]: There is no weeks off, no looking ahead.
1:46:50
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's the Browns.
1:46:52
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's the Falcons.
1:46:54
[UNKNOWN]: The Panthers have every game they've got to win and they've got to make statements.
1:46:59
[UNKNOWN]: And those statements are not to fans.
1:47:01
[UNKNOWN]: Those statements are not opponents.
1:47:03
[UNKNOWN]: They're not to the pundits.
1:47:05
[UNKNOWN]: The statement needs to be to this team.
1:47:08
[UNKNOWN]: Their team.
1:47:09
[UNKNOWN]: And that is we believe and we belong.
1:47:12
[UNKNOWN]: They need to make a statement themselves.
1:47:16
[UNKNOWN]: next week needs to make a statement and this defense needs to come up, muscle up, balls up, nuts up, whatever you want to say and make a statement.
1:47:25
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not looking ahead to the Browns, put it on the Falcons, hold them down, show you that you can limit B-John, shut B-John down if you can and I need this offense to
1:47:39
[UNKNOWN]: continue.
1:47:40
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to go.
1:47:40
[UNKNOWN]: I don't want to get into a game.
1:47:42
[UNKNOWN]: All of a sudden it's be like, oh, we beat the Falcons by three.
1:47:46
[UNKNOWN]: This happened.
1:47:47
[UNKNOWN]: This happened.
1:47:47
[UNKNOWN]: I want to see this offense game momentum game confidence.
1:47:51
[UNKNOWN]: And I want this defense to get some get some manhood back.
1:47:57
[UNKNOWN]: We need to man in this a division viable price always smacks their attitude.
1:48:03
[UNKNOWN]: This would be a great performance for us to actually get some of our mojo back, damn it.
1:48:11
[UNKNOWN]: We got any more calls?
1:48:12
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, we got two more.
1:48:13
[UNKNOWN]: Here we go.
1:48:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, let's run through.
1:48:14
[UNKNOWN]: Hey guys, the club makes them down again.
1:48:16
[UNKNOWN]: We say eight times a blind panther.
1:48:18
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, yeah.
1:48:20
[UNKNOWN]: Thanks so.
1:48:20
[UNKNOWN]: It was the best one we've got.
1:48:23
[UNKNOWN]: She's got the most.
1:48:24
[UNKNOWN]: A motherfucking problem.
1:48:27
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to lie to Excel, he's kept running away and passed through his own town all the time on the way to the beach on the way back, but he's down there, he's not moving anything except, like when I was saying that somebody at the game had a day is uh,
1:48:56
[UNKNOWN]: So the model we get, you know, there's an increase in about 95% of the time.
1:49:00
[UNKNOWN]: It's fucking insane.
1:49:04
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, yeah, like, he's got to tell, like, him and the defense literally may have given my money the heart of taxes.
1:49:15
[UNKNOWN]: We have the fucking leaders going into the ambulance.
1:49:18
[UNKNOWN]: And a half time, because, yeah.
1:49:22
[UNKNOWN]: And, uh,
1:49:23
[UNKNOWN]: The technical is even saying that when she was preparing a first date, she literally said, you want the other ordering your heart fixed and you want to start at a net one, go some repairs again.
1:49:40
[UNKNOWN]: Anyway, guys, I would love to.
1:49:43
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, wow, wow, appreciate you, bro.
1:49:49
[UNKNOWN]: And said, did I get his call, let me see if I missed it.
1:49:54
[UNKNOWN]: It's a 704 number.
1:49:56
[UNKNOWN]: 704, let me see.
1:49:59
[UNKNOWN]: Was it mid day today that we played this one, let me see.
1:50:01
[UNKNOWN]: Is this, uh,
1:50:04
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1:50:34
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, they have talent in all three levels, and they just got absolutely destroyed by Ben Johnson then.
1:50:45
[UNKNOWN]: Just wanted to talk about like, you know, obviously we've been attacking this week.
1:50:49
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not worried about them, you know, they're starting to rush.
1:50:52
[UNKNOWN]: So, like, my first shot is like, oh, the defense is probably going to look good against the sub-parcorder back and the sub-par offense, but that's really not going to change my
1:51:02
[UNKNOWN]: because when we play the top quarterback head coach combinations, these guys are just going to dice them up, especially mobile quarterback like Lamar too.
1:51:13
[UNKNOWN]: And that just leaves me to say, like, where's the accountability in this organization, right?
1:51:18
[UNKNOWN]: Like, the head coach has held Bryce Young accountable for his shit play and benched him two weeks in his second year.
1:51:30
[UNKNOWN]: proved a lot and comes out of the gate looking like a dog this year.
1:51:35
[UNKNOWN]: But Xavier really gets to out there getting stabbed even though he continuously doesn't think it just drops the pass and drops the ball and gets his body out.
1:51:43
[UNKNOWN]: And as your ever was on his fourth year here, where he continuously proves to put little product on the field with a lot in his hands.
1:51:55
[UNKNOWN]: You know, and obviously in 2024, he didn't have a lot to work with.
1:51:58
[UNKNOWN]: We all understand that, but 2025, the defense improved when they gave them talent.
1:52:04
[UNKNOWN]: They were middle of the pack, but again, the one statistic that really stands out to me is third down.
1:52:10
[UNKNOWN]: Last year that Panthers were horrible defensively out there down.
1:52:14
[UNKNOWN]: And that, like, it was the same story on Sunday.
1:52:17
[UNKNOWN]: There's 10 out of 14 on dirt down.
1:52:19
[UNKNOWN]: It's just unacceptable, man.
1:52:21
[UNKNOWN]: Like, where's the accountability?
1:52:22
[UNKNOWN]: You just can't look me straight in the face and tell me that this is a type of defense that Dan Morgan truly, truly wants to buy into.
1:52:31
[UNKNOWN]: I know he said he said in the past that defense resembles nothing about the history of this organization and what.
1:52:37
[UNKNOWN]: Our dean fences are supposed to look like just nothing man a soft shell bullshit soft penalties Can't stop the run.
1:52:44
[UNKNOWN]: It's the same, you know, it's the same thing and ever a man just doesn't address so We'll see how you know, we do we do going forward, but man.
1:52:53
[UNKNOWN]: It's just like There's no accountability It's picking and choosing with canasty got to hold it ever accountable Anthony from Charlotte came out of fucking power
1:53:03
[UNKNOWN]: This is, this is sort of what means okay we're talking about earlier that it's like okay But there's accountability of Jimmy Horn mugs that plant now you're around here dude But then the barrel gets to be a You know a bumblefuck for four years now and it's like oh, yeah, it's fine We really trust this defensive skin like can now this was very defending of them and it's a post game press conference
1:53:33
[UNKNOWN]: I was very defending of him.
1:53:35
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like he didn't throw him under the bush.
1:53:37
[UNKNOWN]: Kaga was 71% on third downs.
1:53:41
[UNKNOWN]: 100% on red zone efficiency.
1:53:44
[UNKNOWN]: Gold, a gold efficiency, three for three, 100%.
1:53:48
[UNKNOWN]: Control the ball 34 minutes to 25 minutes with the Carolina Panthers.
1:53:53
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it's not like we can sit there and celebrate anything defensively on that.
1:53:57
[UNKNOWN]: You can say penalties this and that, but it's not like this is going to be a game that EGRO ever go will he ever go is going to put on his resume.
1:54:08
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that is all.
1:54:10
[UNKNOWN]: All right.
1:54:10
[UNKNOWN]: Final call the night.
1:54:15
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1:54:45
[UNKNOWN]: what happened.
1:54:46
[UNKNOWN]: The head coach of the Bears is from Asheville.
1:54:50
[UNKNOWN]: I just felt like he wanted to stick to us, you know, because they've attempted to hire him.
1:54:55
[UNKNOWN]: But he is from Asheville.
1:54:56
[UNKNOWN]: And he did say their goal this year is to break the scoring record in an NFL, you know.
1:55:05
[UNKNOWN]: But would that be said, maybe just on the run and plays, I'm just really on this point
1:55:15
[UNKNOWN]: Besides that, man, we got tight enough, you know, we won't be all right.
1:55:19
[UNKNOWN]: In a way, man, it's rather a week, week two, anybody who won't be at the game, you know, and since the dollar would be at the game, people want to get their hangout or whatever.
1:55:28
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, sir.
1:55:30
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe we should have with the fucking fair Sunday, you know, on the abrasive, come right here and top of 500, you know, in that top of 500, man.
1:55:38
[UNKNOWN]: But I think the net two games, we can't tighten up on defense, you know,
1:55:45
[UNKNOWN]: and get that sport going because we're going to need it because we've got the lion's in three weeks for Sunday night football, you know.
1:55:53
[UNKNOWN]: That's the test, but uh, I just need to have a little time up, man.
1:55:57
[UNKNOWN]: And all four of that that are running for Sunday doesn't do better, man.
1:56:00
[UNKNOWN]: That was just unacceptable, you know.
1:56:03
[UNKNOWN]: And uh, like one color says like when you play a defense, man, that that's 2015 defense.
1:56:12
[UNKNOWN]: Everybody knew what it was supposed to be at, you know, so if you want to be 50, you know, if you go to the wrong gap, I thought I'll take one Miss Gap and then the my back is gone for a touchdown, you know, through the guy get more discipline on defense, you know, but we'll see but everybody have a great week, man, and just keep pounding, you know, we did play
1:56:39
[UNKNOWN]: the best office in the league is going to say that the best office in the league they got the best play color in the league in Ben Johnson so you know this is what it is there by having a great week keep pounded if you're going to be on the Sunday or the weekend for the season and get hang out with Vincent Beer most of the green things or whatever but the C3 podcast is the longest run at Penta's podcast on YouTube
1:57:05
[UNKNOWN]: They go live, every Tuesday, every Friday, and they got a game we kept on Sunday.
1:57:11
[UNKNOWN]: And I'll tell you this is a point in the box.
1:57:13
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, he got he ran out of the time.
1:57:16
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you so much.
1:57:17
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, brand ambassador.
1:57:19
[UNKNOWN]: Shout out to you, don't tell me real quick.
1:57:21
[UNKNOWN]: Would you like the results of the poll?
1:57:23
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you our results of week two picks were because we're going to get we got to know our foe and make our division picks real quick.
1:57:33
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, sir.
1:57:34
[UNKNOWN]: So it's the top.
1:57:36
[UNKNOWN]: Was this the best performance of Bryce Young's career?
1:57:40
[UNKNOWN]: 49% said good not best for the 7% said best by 4 and then 4% said not even close.
1:57:52
[UNKNOWN]: So let's split the answer yes, why don't you just say yes or no?
1:57:57
[UNKNOWN]: because it can be a great game without being the best of his career.
1:58:04
[UNKNOWN]: And that's the best or not.
1:58:06
[UNKNOWN]: I think the numbers, I think that the fact is that that, all right, okay.
1:58:12
[UNKNOWN]: What do you mean?
1:58:12
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
1:58:13
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it just to make that to answer your question, Tony.
1:58:19
[UNKNOWN]: It means that the majority of people agreed it wasn't his best game.
1:58:23
[UNKNOWN]: was it?
1:58:23
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, wasn't.
1:58:26
[UNKNOWN]: Wasn't the best.
1:58:27
[UNKNOWN]: But again, that's why people put, you know, good, not best.
1:58:32
[UNKNOWN]: It was a good performance, but most people can't say that it's the, even if you account the 4% that said not even close.
1:58:41
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it's more people don't think it was.
1:58:43
[UNKNOWN]: I'm shocked.
1:58:44
[UNKNOWN]: I felt like it just was.
1:58:46
[UNKNOWN]: It was live favorite performance of those far.
1:58:49
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1:59:01
[UNKNOWN]: Guys, last week we picked our division winner or no, our team by team.
1:59:06
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to get to know my photos.
1:59:07
[UNKNOWN]: I just want to put this out.
1:59:09
[UNKNOWN]: We all went to and won and we all picked the Panthers.
1:59:12
[UNKNOWN]: All losses there for us because I mean, there's a little home cooking for some of us at least me I was like, man, as week one got to pick the Panthers.
1:59:22
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I picked the bangles.
1:59:24
[UNKNOWN]: Cody picked the bangles C. K. Oh, C. K picked the bucks.
1:59:29
[UNKNOWN]: No C. K is one and two
1:59:32
[UNKNOWN]: picked the books on the road.
1:59:34
[UNKNOWN]: We all picked the Steelers.
1:59:37
[UNKNOWN]: So we got a couple of division picks the make real quick, but before that the Carolina Panthers are on the road against the Atlanta Falcons.
1:59:43
[UNKNOWN]: They're two and a half point dog.
1:59:46
[UNKNOWN]: No, not dogs.
1:59:47
[UNKNOWN]: They are road favorite.
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1:59:59
[UNKNOWN]: I went ahead on the show and picked the pound that Panthers outright and I got to tell you this is
2:00:06
[UNKNOWN]: don't look ahead game for the Carolina Panthers.
2:00:09
[UNKNOWN]: Look right now to put a statement on a division rival and there are questions about it at the quarterback position Cody.
2:00:18
[UNKNOWN]: The Atlanta Falcons winning there and had a somewhat close game against the Steelers.
2:00:24
[UNKNOWN]: Peas John Robinson unstoppable accounted for like 78% of their offense 173 yards at a 260 yards.
2:00:32
[UNKNOWN]: They started Cooper Rush out of nowhere because two attack of Aloa, I believe, was the retired.
2:00:39
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, he's having banks, peasants, he's having headaches, like dudes already knocking at the door in the nursing home, man.
2:00:47
[UNKNOWN]: But Cooper Rush finished 143 yards of touchdown and 200 receptions on 12 of 22 passing.
2:00:55
[UNKNOWN]: Um, now I also will say just like we had a hands king moment where hands lit up the Hall of Fame game The quarterback behind Cooper Rush is this quarterback named Jack Strand He also had a really good game and a lot of Falcons fans are asking for him to be the quarterback Game wins dead the preseason.
2:01:19
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, and preseason.
2:01:20
[UNKNOWN]: Oh gosh.
2:01:21
[UNKNOWN]: He's the hands king of them, right?
2:01:24
[UNKNOWN]: How about this?
2:01:24
[UNKNOWN]: Most of Falcons fans want to see Jack Strand over a Cooper Rush and we might end up seeing that depending on how bad it gets, but yeah Coach Kevin's defense controller Porter's on Monday.
2:01:38
[UNKNOWN]: He didn't have an update on the status of any of the quarterbacks, but he would hope to know the next day or two.
2:01:44
[UNKNOWN]: The Falcon first injury report will be available when they have to know him so this in this team is hurt They're limping into this game.
2:01:52
[UNKNOWN]: They have a lot of uncertainty at the quarterback position like you said earlier Tony They have to run the football
2:01:59
[UNKNOWN]: Vision is going to be the beginning of their offensive attack after we had such an abysmal run defense against the bears.
2:02:11
[UNKNOWN]: This is the type of get back there.
2:02:12
[UNKNOWN]: We need to start feeling ourselves.
2:02:15
[UNKNOWN]: If you shut down Vision Robinson, that's like a software reset for your defense on the year.
2:02:22
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, um, I said that Cooper Rush may have been a more of a threat in a way than to a, and I almost am not even going to change that because this is what Cooper Rush did, and I don't know if to is any better.
2:02:41
[UNKNOWN]: Cooper Rush was 12 for 22, 143 yards.
2:02:46
[UNKNOWN]: You look at the passing chart for Cooper Rush.
2:02:49
[UNKNOWN]: It looked like Bryce Young's rookie year passing chart.
2:02:52
[UNKNOWN]: Five deer is just be John this way.
2:02:54
[UNKNOWN]: Be John that way.
2:02:55
[UNKNOWN]: Be John this way.
2:02:56
[UNKNOWN]: Be John that way.
2:02:57
[UNKNOWN]: One deep ball, five yards behind Kyle Piss that could have means opening does this.
2:03:02
[UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers very simple.
2:03:05
[UNKNOWN]: commit to be John, make Cooper Rush beat you.
2:03:09
[UNKNOWN]: You pay J.C. horn.
2:03:11
[UNKNOWN]: Mike Jack is trying to get paid like big time, trust your corners, trust your secondary.
2:03:17
[UNKNOWN]: And look, this is what's going down on the internet.
2:03:19
[UNKNOWN]: Falcons fans are pissed, but I'm gonna tell you this.
2:03:22
[UNKNOWN]: Look, Reddit.
2:03:24
[UNKNOWN]: I hate Cooper Rush.
2:03:25
[UNKNOWN]: That's all.
2:03:26
[UNKNOWN]: If this guy is a loser, how do you play this badly?
2:03:30
[UNKNOWN]: Mark Remondy through Sunday's
2:03:33
[UNKNOWN]: Falcons quarterback Cooper Rush was 30 at a 30 qualifying quarterbacks with a QBR of 2.6 at well not be John but at in be John we trust former Falcon and elder statements of Falcon FC OV McGaley on Cooper Rush Cooper needs to rush on out of Atlanta.
2:03:54
[UNKNOWN]: That's what's going down with Atlanta, but I'm looking
2:04:01
[UNKNOWN]: they're sitting here going kuper rush problematic kuper this kuper that we've got talent to them they played Pittsburgh tough they played them tight in there one problem and that's kuper rush they're not sitting here going oh we're afraid of keralina that's why i say keralina comes in there and ruins some damn
2:04:23
[UNKNOWN]: weeks and months for these people.
2:04:26
[UNKNOWN]: I'm not going to head if I'm the Carolina Panthers right here.
2:04:29
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care if it's Cooper Rush to a tag of a Lola, Michael Panics, Carolina goes in and beats their ass and I'm not saying they're going like that's what the attitude they need to have.
2:04:39
[UNKNOWN]: Who the fuck?
2:04:40
[UNKNOWN]: I don't care who their quarterback is.
2:04:42
[UNKNOWN]: We got to stop
2:04:51
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I, I love this sentiment you have.
2:04:56
[UNKNOWN]: Do you know how well Cooper Rush did against the Panthers when he was for working when he played for the Cowboys back in 2024 against Evaro's defense?
2:05:07
[UNKNOWN]: No, I didn't even know he was.
2:05:08
[UNKNOWN]: I thought he went from the jazz to Dolphins or something.
2:05:12
[UNKNOWN]: Let me down.
2:05:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, no, yeah, he threw for three touchdowns.
2:05:21
[UNKNOWN]: Um, he was over, he's a little over 200 yards.
2:05:23
[UNKNOWN]: Nothing crazy.
2:05:25
[UNKNOWN]: Um, I'll give you the exact numbers here.
2:05:31
[UNKNOWN]: Um, it was a 30 to 14 victory against Panthers.
2:05:35
[UNKNOWN]: Um, and he was 18 of 19 passing 214 yards and three passing touchdowns.
2:05:43
[UNKNOWN]: He was not rostered though, CK just four months ago, I think he came off the couch, like, and I'm sorry, I looked at him.
2:05:52
[UNKNOWN]: Um, if that guy does that to us, then, you know what, then that's our, like, no, I don't care.
2:06:01
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, thank you, that actually is weird, right, because he is like, geez, right when we're like, oh, we'll do this through that, I mean, but no, I'm not scared of that.
2:06:12
[UNKNOWN]: Like, he looked like shit.
2:06:14
[UNKNOWN]: It looked like that, but if that is the case, then man, what a referendum it will be on that defense.
2:06:21
[UNKNOWN]: We need to go in there and put it on them.
2:06:24
[UNKNOWN]: That's how I'm saying.
2:06:25
[UNKNOWN]: We have a wonderful opportunity to go and get our confidence back against a division rival on the road.
2:06:32
[UNKNOWN]: We don't on the road, right?
2:06:33
[UNKNOWN]: We're not in.
2:06:33
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:06:34
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, a lot of road.
2:06:36
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, like we need to do this, man.
2:06:39
[UNKNOWN]: It is time to get our confidence back, uh, and listen, it's still all about being shown.
2:06:46
[UNKNOWN]: Before I read this write up, look at this fucking graph dude.
2:06:51
[UNKNOWN]: Look, this is uh, carry share versus target share.
2:06:56
[UNKNOWN]: Look, we're busy on Robinson is,
2:07:04
[UNKNOWN]: We're not joking around.
2:07:06
[UNKNOWN]: He is the only part of the Falcons often, right?
2:07:10
[UNKNOWN]: Like almost no worry, like is that you paid this guy a big money.
2:07:16
[UNKNOWN]: Like are you ready to do this to this guy?
2:07:21
[UNKNOWN]: But he was sensational.
2:07:23
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, why can't I, how can you not?
2:07:24
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know.
2:07:26
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:07:26
[UNKNOWN]: Good, good, good.
2:07:27
[UNKNOWN]: It's all be John, regardless of the quarterback is for the Falcons to land this offense.
2:07:32
[UNKNOWN]: It wasn't going to run through be John Robertson.
2:07:35
[UNKNOWN]: That's only exacerbated by the quarterback on certainty.
2:07:38
[UNKNOWN]: And uncertainty and available personnel against the Steelers, Robinson and counter for 73% of the Falcons total offense.
2:07:51
[UNKNOWN]: Part of 238 total yards, the Falcons ran 57 plays in Pittsburgh and Robinson, who was on the field for 44 plays, touched the ball on 29 of them.
2:08:03
[UNKNOWN]: According to next year in stats, Robinson forced 12 missed tackles and average 4.7 yards after contact on 21 rushing attempts.
2:08:13
[UNKNOWN]: They do the fucking beast.
2:08:15
[UNKNOWN]: That's a monster sending my, oh, Jonathan Brooks was on pace to be be John that not nonsense.
2:08:24
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was true when it was in college, but you know what, be John is the truth until otherwise told.
2:08:31
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:08:31
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, love you, hope it can be anywhere in that man's shadow.
2:08:37
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, man, yeah, it's insane, man, the vision is actually there defense played very well, I mean, look, you're playing up.
2:08:51
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know how to assess the Steelers, Aaron Rogers, who still has an arm on him, who can still sling it, but looks slow, moving around does not want to take any hits, right?
2:09:06
[UNKNOWN]: Um, they just were close, but never could get anything going the Steelers.
2:09:12
[UNKNOWN]: The Falcons went into Pittsburgh and their defense minus James Pierce minus who else was the other guy.
2:09:23
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, James here's a suspended jail locker like minus some big pieces.
2:09:28
[UNKNOWN]: We're in there and played a tougher game defensively then anticipate it and then you give the ball to be John you can work a clock in different ways like I'm not saying let's underestimate the defense
2:09:42
[UNKNOWN]: I think this Carolina Panthers offense needs to be able to perform.
2:09:46
[UNKNOWN]: I've looking at what the Carolina did against the Chocago, and I'm not saying, oh, well, they shut down the Steelers.
2:09:55
[UNKNOWN]: I think that Panthers should be putting up points against this defense.
2:09:59
[UNKNOWN]: Tell us about Zendarius Smith.
2:10:03
[UNKNOWN]: Yes, the Darius myth united the front for the Falcons, the Falcons pass rush took a huge hit in the off-season with Jill and Walker to suffered a season ending ACL Terran training camp and then NFL suspended James for his junior for the first eight games the duo dominated his rookies with 16 combined sacks as the Falcons set franchise record of 57 total sacks
2:10:30
[UNKNOWN]: That's second-in-the-lead damn.
2:10:32
[UNKNOWN]: There were flying on my ship.
2:10:34
[UNKNOWN]: Furthermore, 12 of the guys who registered two of them were sacks for the Falcon's last season.
2:10:40
[UNKNOWN]: Only three were on the active roster Sunday against the Steelers.
2:10:44
[UNKNOWN]: So it was easy to assume the past rush would take a hit.
2:10:48
[UNKNOWN]: But even while playing the escape master Aaron Rodgers, the group got after the quarterback,
2:10:54
[UNKNOWN]: There was six quarter back courage from four players in two sacks, both from Zedarius Smith.
2:11:02
[UNKNOWN]: So again, like this is going to be a really big test of our offensive line.
2:11:06
[UNKNOWN]: How we're able to run the football, but also how we're able to pass protects.
2:11:10
[UNKNOWN]: We were talking about Monroe Freeling earlier.
2:11:14
[UNKNOWN]: Well, him hitting more reps against players like Zedarius Smith, while they're missing players
2:11:24
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, this is a good way to stack your resume, you know, another, another feather in your cap, man.
2:11:30
[UNKNOWN]: Just check off boxes.
2:11:32
[UNKNOWN]: This is what the doctor ordered for the Panthers.
2:11:36
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, Tony, I'm really confident going into this.
2:11:40
[UNKNOWN]: Now, that has been me on the ass in the past.
2:11:44
[UNKNOWN]: Don't worry, head bro.
2:11:46
[UNKNOWN]: I know I have to go in one minute at a time with the beat down on these fools.
2:11:53
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
2:11:53
[UNKNOWN]: It's like, yes, put the beat down and I'm almost to the point where if the Carolina Panthers don't go and impose their will in various ways.
2:12:02
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know what that is, but if I don't walk out of here,
2:12:06
[UNKNOWN]: like this, we did something, our offense put it on them, our defenses get a little better, our defense change it.
2:12:13
[UNKNOWN]: If we don't know, make a statement to ourselves, each and every week, screw the longevity, screw, oh, well, we're going to be better.
2:12:22
[UNKNOWN]: We got these people ahead.
2:12:23
[UNKNOWN]: It's time to go one in one, put these mugs in the dirt and then next week, put those mugs in the dirt.
2:12:31
[UNKNOWN]: Don't
2:12:34
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, well, we kind of beat them.
2:12:36
[UNKNOWN]: Time to do it.
2:12:38
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
2:12:39
[UNKNOWN]: That's it, baby.
2:12:41
[UNKNOWN]: Watch it.
2:12:42
[UNKNOWN]: Check it.
2:12:43
[UNKNOWN]: If you're stream yard, what do we say you have to say?
2:12:46
[UNKNOWN]: Check it.
2:12:46
[UNKNOWN]: Clock it, note it, whatever it is.
2:12:48
[UNKNOWN]: It's time for us.
2:12:50
[UNKNOWN]: Break it, sell it.
2:12:51
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, no, shout out to Jersey Pantos, dial answers.
2:12:55
[UNKNOWN]: Can you drop a 50 burger?
2:12:57
[UNKNOWN]: on Atlanta.
2:12:58
[UNKNOWN]: How about this?
2:12:58
[UNKNOWN]: Let's go 20, man, let's, let's go 27, 13, 27, 10 and just own it and work it and move it.
2:13:07
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need the offense to put up a 500 yards.
2:13:11
[UNKNOWN]: I don't need Bryce any Bryce, like I need everybody to work.
2:13:15
[UNKNOWN]: It just be a clear, concise win.
2:13:18
[UNKNOWN]: Do you want to know if you want to know about offense?
2:13:22
[UNKNOWN]: What's that?
2:13:23
[UNKNOWN]: You want to pick the game now?
2:13:24
[UNKNOWN]: You want to just, well, here we are.
2:13:26
[UNKNOWN]: Clock it, note it, check it.
2:13:28
[UNKNOWN]: That's stream yard.
2:13:29
[UNKNOWN]: I'm supposed to say these words.
2:13:31
[UNKNOWN]: I can't remember.
2:13:32
[UNKNOWN]: Clip it.
2:13:32
[UNKNOWN]: Clip it.
2:13:33
[UNKNOWN]: Clip it.
2:13:34
[UNKNOWN]: Clip this or something.
2:13:36
[UNKNOWN]: Clip this.
2:13:36
[UNKNOWN]: Clip that.
2:13:37
[UNKNOWN]: Remember it.
2:13:38
[UNKNOWN]: Stream yard.
2:13:40
[UNKNOWN]: We're picking our, we picked the NFC Southpicks.
2:13:44
[UNKNOWN]: We picked the Panthers game each week.
2:13:46
[UNKNOWN]: Right now we've got, I've got them all written down.
2:13:49
[UNKNOWN]: Panthers at Falcons.
2:13:54
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, Carolina, man, I'm going 34 or 17 Carolina on the road.
2:13:58
[UNKNOWN]: Bryce does Bryson things against the Falcons.
2:14:03
[UNKNOWN]: C. K. Um, yeah, I'm going to go Falcon or Panthers against the Falcons.
2:14:10
[UNKNOWN]: not prepared to say that this defense is going to be giving up as many points as the bear's defense did.
2:14:15
[UNKNOWN]: Two and a half points spread.
2:14:17
[UNKNOWN]: Did they win by more than, did they win by three or more of the Panthers?
2:14:21
[UNKNOWN]: If you're betting a spread on mybookie.ag using permacode C3P, I put the money, where I've already made my pick earlier in the show.
2:14:29
[UNKNOWN]: I pick the Panthers by the points, let's do it.
2:14:33
[UNKNOWN]: Next game on the ropes is the Browns at the bucks.
2:14:38
[UNKNOWN]: Wildly, let me just put this out there as you make your pick, which I think everybody's going to have to point spread for the bucks.
2:14:47
[UNKNOWN]: The bucks, it's a bet on the Browns.
2:14:50
[UNKNOWN]: They would have to win by nine.
2:14:52
[UNKNOWN]: They would have to win by nine or more.
2:14:56
[UNKNOWN]: And I would not feel good put my money on the Browns.
2:15:00
[UNKNOWN]: I think the Browns right now, there's this talk going on.
2:15:03
[UNKNOWN]: Like, how could you start the Sean Watson?
2:15:06
[UNKNOWN]: How could you do this?
2:15:07
[UNKNOWN]: Todd Malkin's a fool.
2:15:09
[UNKNOWN]: He's coming out saying this process.
2:15:11
[UNKNOWN]: He put us in, no, it's very clear.
2:15:14
[UNKNOWN]: The Browns started on the road with the jagged.
2:15:17
[UNKNOWN]: Then they're going to the buck.
2:15:18
[UNKNOWN]: Then they're going home.
2:15:20
[UNKNOWN]: This is to Sean Watson for our owner.
2:15:23
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
2:15:25
[UNKNOWN]: When we go back to Cleveland, Shonor Sanders will be the starting quarterback.
2:15:30
[UNKNOWN]: That's it.
2:15:31
[UNKNOWN]: The Browns are losing.
2:15:33
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if they lose by nine.
2:15:36
[UNKNOWN]: They could lose by 30, or they could lose by seven.
2:15:39
[UNKNOWN]: I'm picking the books.
2:15:42
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I'm also going Tampa.
2:15:44
[UNKNOWN]: I think they're going to get things back on track.
2:15:47
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I've got Tampa winning by two touchdowns.
2:15:52
[UNKNOWN]: Um, yeah, I think, uh, I think we're going to see a, uh, correct the ship.
2:16:00
[UNKNOWN]: They, they actually did a pretty stand-up job against the Wingles in that, uh, that potent offense and shutting them down in a lot of ways, uh, and from what a lot of people are saying is that, uh, rookie linebacker that they got had put on a performance for the ages against the Wingles.
2:16:17
[UNKNOWN]: I'm going to Tampa Bay here, I don't know how many points, but I'll say it's at least a touchdown.
2:16:23
[UNKNOWN]: Final game of the division, so we have the Panthers and Falcons that is the division matchup Cleveland Browns at Bucks all won a clock games.
2:16:36
[UNKNOWN]: The New Orleans Saints are on the road.
2:16:39
[UNKNOWN]: against the Baltimore Ravens and I got to tell you this is I don't know I didn't know what to make of the Ravens over the last two seasons.
2:16:47
[UNKNOWN]: The defense not being as consistent as it been for like 22 freaking years.
2:16:55
[UNKNOWN]: Some up and down weeks for their defense.
2:16:58
[UNKNOWN]: Derek Henry was I felt like was a quiet hero last year underestimated what he truly was.
2:17:05
[UNKNOWN]: The Baltimore Ravens went on
2:17:08
[UNKNOWN]: with a new coach and just put it on those mugs.
2:17:11
[UNKNOWN]: The more Jackson throwing it around, I'm sorry.
2:17:16
[UNKNOWN]: I missed judged.
2:17:17
[UNKNOWN]: I I prematurely look for a pullback or decline and wasn't saying I look for it.
2:17:25
[UNKNOWN]: This is also bananas.
2:17:27
[UNKNOWN]: If you think about the Browns being eight and a half point dogs on the road,
2:17:33
[UNKNOWN]: The Saints are eight and a half point dogs and they are four better of a team than the Browns are, but I think that's a statement of how good the Ravens are.
2:17:45
[UNKNOWN]: The Browns, I mean, the Saints did push the Lions late, but it wasn't real.
2:17:50
[UNKNOWN]: I mean, it was, it was real because it happened, but the Lions let it happen.
2:17:56
[UNKNOWN]: Tyler shook, like, crap in the beginning, played here a ball to the end.
2:18:00
[UNKNOWN]: The Ravens, I'm not picking the spread.
2:18:04
[UNKNOWN]: I would not bet on the Ravens to win by nine.
2:18:07
[UNKNOWN]: I think that's rich.
2:18:09
[UNKNOWN]: I could see it happening, but we got to watch our money and you can go to mybookie.ag promo code C3P.
2:18:19
[UNKNOWN]: Watch your money.
2:18:20
[UNKNOWN]: I don't know if I would wear or put it actually do.
2:18:23
[UNKNOWN]: I put it on the Panthers.
2:18:25
[UNKNOWN]: But I'm picking the Baltimore Ravens.
2:18:26
[UNKNOWN]: I'm done.
2:18:27
[UNKNOWN]: My doubt.
2:18:29
[UNKNOWN]: is been reassured.
2:18:31
[UNKNOWN]: The Baltimore Ravens are stampeted out.
2:18:34
[UNKNOWN]: The Carolina Panthers are going to still be tied for first after this week in a tie with a books.
2:18:43
[UNKNOWN]: I pick the Ravens.
2:18:46
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, how do you not pick the Ravens?
2:18:49
[UNKNOWN]: I just don't know shit.
2:18:51
[UNKNOWN]: It's a near-the-hand boy spread.
2:18:55
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, there's no way I got you.
2:18:57
[UNKNOWN]: All right, Ravens, Ravens, Ravens.
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2:19:23
[UNKNOWN]: You guys showed up so much this week.
2:19:26
[UNKNOWN]: Maybe not the Panthers defense, but you did.
2:19:29
[UNKNOWN]: Cody Lack, we got to show up for one last segment where we tell some fools to ice up tough enough to get it to get there.
2:19:54
[UNKNOWN]: it's our homage to Steve Smith where we tell someone to ice up tough enough to get it together everyone is in fair game that means I can ice up these fools on this panel I can ice up my family I can ice up a 15 year old in Oklahoma who have never met which I have on this broad cast guys let's drop some ice who's ready is anybody ready?
2:20:17
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have it.
2:20:17
[UNKNOWN]: I like I have some things like a bitch in my own and I have this one good.
2:20:23
[UNKNOWN]: Do you guys need me to go first?
2:20:25
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:20:27
[UNKNOWN]: I don't have a video.
2:20:28
[UNKNOWN]: I just have a moment.
2:20:30
[UNKNOWN]: I have a video.
2:20:31
[UNKNOWN]: I start a video but I can't play the audio because it is a Michael Jant Jackson impersonator.
2:20:39
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
2:20:40
[UNKNOWN]: So if I play it, it's going to get flagged for Michael Jackson movie.
2:20:45
[UNKNOWN]: Like stuff.
2:20:47
[UNKNOWN]: Right.
2:20:47
[UNKNOWN]: But here we go.
2:20:49
[UNKNOWN]: Is he just think about bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb, but a bomb bomb.
2:21:00
[UNKNOWN]: Look at this.
2:21:01
[UNKNOWN]: So he is in it, man.
2:21:11
[UNKNOWN]: Can't see it, boom!
2:21:13
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2:21:36
[UNKNOWN]: It's for the pump pump, for the pump pump, for the pump pump, for the pump, that's my ice-up pig for him.
2:21:44
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, we're getting popped in the head.
2:21:46
[UNKNOWN]: We'll die, we'll die.
2:21:51
[UNKNOWN]: All right, so you can't you want to I don't have a video mind.
2:21:56
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, all right, so how about this is then like so to give you some breathing room Did you see the AI that CK they made so the AI people came out and they said Like now the end of the earth could be here
2:22:10
[UNKNOWN]: so like they're like pause like AI could kill us all and then the people that are saying that are like in the heads of anthropic the heads of chat gbt which there's a conspiracy that they're now saying not conspiracy I think this might be the realest thing is they're like oh pause the development on other companies so we can dominate but somebody made an AI AI video with um
2:22:38
[UNKNOWN]: who's the guy from CNN who's awesome means pretty good like he's been a staple for us but it was like they put in your dog Connor they put John Connor warning it was like I've been trying to advocate for this since 1994 at this and that then they put on a sports it was such an AI created was wonderful so um that was trying to give Cody and you a little
2:23:09
[UNKNOWN]: Um, no, Dubai really isn't even a good one.
2:23:14
[UNKNOWN]: It's just the only thing I have.
2:23:15
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, so Texas longhorns that came back and be through a high-less state book, guys.
2:23:21
[UNKNOWN]: Hollywood, she's the sideline reporter shirt was introduced.
2:23:24
[UNKNOWN]: The coat is when the game is over.
2:23:27
[UNKNOWN]: Well, Steve Sarkision.
2:23:29
[UNKNOWN]: goes up to her, is about to do the interview, and then it just goes, Huckle, and it puts those up, the hookman did just runs away, and Holly drove like rolls her eyes and just walks off camera.
2:23:44
[UNKNOWN]: So now like everybody's like split, like who was the asshole?
2:23:50
[UNKNOWN]: Like, what is a stark fusion asshole for not just giving the interview, like you should have, or like most people do, or was it presumptuous for thinking that this coach who had just won a come from a high victory, who wants to go be with this team, is like obligated to give some long thoughtful interview at the end of a game.
2:24:14
[UNKNOWN]: I feel like most people feel like they're new fans of suit circumcision because like fuck all the pomp and circumstance and shit.
2:24:25
[UNKNOWN]: So yeah, I'm icing the poly row.
2:24:27
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I saw both of them.
2:24:30
[UNKNOWN]: As is that.
2:24:32
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, maybe he's obligated probably to do that.
2:24:36
[UNKNOWN]: She's irritated by it, and it's the craziest.
2:24:41
[UNKNOWN]: I turned that game off, dude.
2:24:45
[UNKNOWN]: At first, it was already three to three or something.
2:24:48
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, that game was like 30 points out.
2:24:51
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, I remember saying, I was like, oh, I was told my wife, I said, we gotta watch this game.
2:24:57
[UNKNOWN]: It's the game of the week.
2:24:58
[UNKNOWN]: And that shit was like a 30 point blowout.
2:25:01
[UNKNOWN]: I was like, all right, let's watch another show.
2:25:07
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, I think who do you think was in the wrong?
2:25:15
[UNKNOWN]: Well, I mean, to me, like, okay, I think we're gonna call out with you.
2:25:19
[UNKNOWN]: You know what?
2:25:20
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, you know, that, you know, you have to do this interviews, but like, I don't know, like I understand you've been taking the L. You think he's overwhelmed by the moment?
2:25:34
[UNKNOWN]: He wanted to go and celebrate with his fucking team that just came back and won and beat the number one team in the country.
2:25:41
[UNKNOWN]: I played a billion percent of dollars.
2:25:43
[UNKNOWN]: He's got to do his moments.
2:25:45
[UNKNOWN]: But then you think that he gets to just be like, well, I think he needs to make the argument that he was so overwhelmed by emotion of this that he couldn't pause for this.
2:25:57
[UNKNOWN]: You're like, nah, he was like, ah, I'm good.
2:26:01
[UNKNOWN]: We're doing also, I haven't even told you one of the funniest parts of this.
2:26:05
[UNKNOWN]: So, they were asking Archmany about this because people had already put it through AI filters.
2:26:13
[UNKNOWN]: And there's one where he just says, Welcome, Edden slaps the shit out of her.
2:26:19
[UNKNOWN]: And then they asked Archmany and they were like, did you see that interaction?
2:26:25
[UNKNOWN]: between Hollywood and CSR QC, and it's like, yeah, I saw one online, it was like something AI and he's smacked or something.
2:26:34
[UNKNOWN]: And it's like, I thought that it was really funny.
2:26:37
[UNKNOWN]: And then everyone got all pissed off at him for that.
2:26:41
[UNKNOWN]: for, like, saying that that was even remotely funny, and it fucking was hilarious, but they made him probably more endearing, right?
2:26:50
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, he had to put out an apology on his Instagram.
2:26:53
[UNKNOWN]: Did he?
2:26:54
[UNKNOWN]: Did he not make him more endearing?
2:26:56
[UNKNOWN]: Yes.
2:26:56
[UNKNOWN]: I think it makes him more human.
2:26:58
[UNKNOWN]: I think him and Steve Syracuse are probably a little more endeared to have to this.
2:27:04
[UNKNOWN]: But then there's winners in the same way.
2:27:07
[UNKNOWN]: But then it pops a bunch of AI shit like this.
2:27:14
[UNKNOWN]: Is it funny now, Arch?
2:27:15
[UNKNOWN]: Huh?
2:27:18
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, all day, I mean, this is just, I'm not gonna say that when I think, but C-K, you're up next for the high sub-bix.
2:27:30
[UNKNOWN]: Uh, did you guess he, the Browns, I can't play it.
2:27:34
[UNKNOWN]: I don't think a film break down the 22 is going to get demonetized or not, but it's the play where, uh, to Sean Rodson drops back 9,000 yards.
2:27:44
[UNKNOWN]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
2:27:58
[UNKNOWN]: Thank you Cody for wanting to trade every pit we've ever had for Dishon Master Baitan Wallace.
2:28:04
[UNKNOWN]: No Trevor a lot.
2:28:06
[UNKNOWN]: I wanted to take a few years of business.
2:28:09
[UNKNOWN]: I'm sorry.
2:28:10
[UNKNOWN]: You went all 22.
2:28:13
[UNKNOWN]: If it's NFL, you should be okay.
2:28:16
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, all right cool.
2:28:18
[UNKNOWN]: So I'm gonna
2:28:20
[UNKNOWN]: But it has to be alternative to it can't be for more yes, it's not from a broadcast.
2:28:24
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I guess and it's a really quick dude.
2:28:27
[UNKNOWN]: Not even out yet.
2:28:28
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, it is There it is.
2:28:32
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, come to the next day.
2:28:33
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, all right.
2:28:36
[UNKNOWN]: We don't need audio.
2:28:37
[UNKNOWN]: All right
2:28:41
[UNKNOWN]: So I want you to pay attention to five when this free starts.
2:28:46
[UNKNOWN]: It's a poof!
2:28:50
[UNKNOWN]: Guys, there's a deer in headlights, bro.
2:28:53
[UNKNOWN]: Bro, like you forgot where he was for a minute, dude.
2:29:00
[UNKNOWN]: It didn't do anything.
2:29:03
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, that actually, it's funny, you're the more you watch it does.
2:29:09
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my god, you can see a dude run right past him.
2:29:13
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
2:29:15
[UNKNOWN]: He almost had a chance to catch up, which is crazy.
2:29:19
[UNKNOWN]: Dude, it's almost like a glitch in his teeth.
2:29:21
[UNKNOWN]: Look, he almost had a, if he would have actually stepped two steps back, he would have been in a great position, right, like you know.
2:29:32
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
2:29:48
[UNKNOWN]: Oh my, so now that is great.
2:29:51
[UNKNOWN]: Okay, well done.
2:29:53
[UNKNOWN]: You're listening to the C3 Panthers podcast.
2:29:56
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2:30:09
[UNKNOWN]: is comment in the chat after if you're listening later, drop a comment, say, hey, Tony, you're stupid, CK, you're the best.
2:30:20
[UNKNOWN]: Cody, you're ridiculous.
2:30:23
[UNKNOWN]: Who is the best?
2:30:25
[UNKNOWN]: It was at the best game.
2:30:27
[UNKNOWN]: Please let us know in the chat later.
2:30:29
[UNKNOWN]: I still think this is the best game I've seen from
2:30:37
[UNKNOWN]: Like, you showed this price young to me, week and not, not the points, not the points, not the yards.
2:30:46
[UNKNOWN]: I still, I think this is the real difference maker for me for price was never getting the pocket, but moving forward, throwing forward, running forward, moving out of pressure and running forward.
2:31:01
[UNKNOWN]: and throwing down field keeping his eyes down field was fantastic for me.
2:31:06
[UNKNOWN]: We'll be back here on Friday night for the Friday free-viral.
2:31:10
[UNKNOWN]: Look for the beach deck.
2:31:12
[UNKNOWN]: We've got Mary K. Kammett from The Browns Network.
2:31:17
[UNKNOWN]: Next week.
2:31:19
[UNKNOWN]: I've already locked up the beat rider for the Browns.
2:31:25
[UNKNOWN]: Oh, you see, dude, I know me, I don't know her, but like, I know that name.
2:31:29
[UNKNOWN]: Yeah, I mean, big name, that's me.
2:31:34
[UNKNOWN]: next week, but we're going to get you more and more content.
2:31:37
[UNKNOWN]: We're looking.
2:31:38
[UNKNOWN]: We're going to get you some Atlanta Falcons content.
2:31:41
[UNKNOWN]: And all they're going to say is, be John, be John, be John, and that's it.
2:31:47
[UNKNOWN]: My name's Tony Don, that's C. K. That's Cody Lack.
2:31:51
[UNKNOWN]: Take us out of here, my friend.
2:31:53
[UNKNOWN]: See three leads in the love of y'all.
2:31:55
[UNKNOWN]: Be on the lookout for that content dropping.
2:31:58
[UNKNOWN]: We'll see y'all on the free for all.
2:32:00
[UNKNOWN]: Until next time, keep pounding.