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Ohio State Spring Football: 5 Things We Learned From Ryan Day & Carlos Locklyn · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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Welcome to a very special live episode of Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, April
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eleventh. I'm your host Tom All. The Akron game in one hundred and
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forty two days, the game against Michigan in two hundred and thirty three days,
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the spring game at Ohio Stadium in significantly fewer days than that. Coming
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up on Saturday, April thirteenth. We'll also have the Ohio State Final practice
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in the lead up to the spring game. That's gonna be coming up on
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Friday. That'll be inside Ohio Stadium. We just learned that we'll be there
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for that. Lots of exciting stuff coming up this week, but for the
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most exciting news, I'm joined by Todergarter Bits, buckye Huddle dot Com,
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Tony. We just got a chance to talk to Ryan Day and new Ohistate
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running backs coach Carlos Lachlan coach Locke, please not Carlos, coach lock Very
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interesting day. I guess let's start with I know, I know you want
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to talk about the freshman quarterback. We will get there. We will get
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there. I'm sure everyone in in audience land and out and out there in
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TV land wants to as well, but let's start with Carlos Lachland new running
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backs coach, just the higher process. What made him the right fit for
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Ryan Day? Well, I think energy, the desire to coach the position.
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Well that you're just looking for something to carry on what you're doing but
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also expand on it. And it seemed like the conversations, the feedback,
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the responsors that he was getting, the Ryan Day was getting with a conversation
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and the idea of what he the the vision that he had for the position.
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I think that was significance. And you know you're you're looking for somebody
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that is, like I said, well expand the position and has has experienced
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enough but also has this desire to do something so much more that I think
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is is intriguing. And I don't know how much people have read into his
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background in his story. I mean it's been certainly been reported and discussed as
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a background and law enforcement and then just kind of decided to get back into
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coach in twenty seventeen and told the story about you know, going to a
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very small school, very small college, and you know, looking for a
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looking for a coaching job, and they say you don't have enough experience and
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here he is less than seven years later coaching at Ohio State. That is
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quite a journey. Yeah, And I think his first job at Memphis back
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in twenty nineteen eighteen somewhere around there was just like volunteering in the weight room,
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and before that he got a told note by another small school that wouldn't
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you you can't even volunteer here, and so yeah, it was. It's
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an interesting journey. It's been a pretty quick journey. I'm guessing none of
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it has felt quick to him because this is also, you know, somebody
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spent most of his life in law enforcement and most of his adult life,
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you know, in law enforcement, and decided to give that up in order
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to reach more people through coaching. And it's it's quite a leap of faith
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in which I think he also talked about as well butteresting story when he was
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asked, you know, what is you know something about the difficulty in handling
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a room with five or six players, and it's not very difficult. No,
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he was at one point a corrections officer and was in charge of hundreds
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of people. I think he's fifty one people in a pot at a time.
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Yeah, yeah, so you know, five relatively well mannered running backs
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probably not going to be overwhelming for him. He you know, I think
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there's probably a bunch of stuff that he talked about, a bunch of stuff
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that I had read about him previously, but this is probably one of those
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if you haven't seen it, it's new to you things. And one of
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his lines is that running backs are the worst coach position in football. I
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thought that was that's a very interesting thing for a running backs coach to say.
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Yeah, and he did say there are some good coaches out there,
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so it's like, well, why do you keep saying that? And he
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said, I want the head coaches to know, like, you don't need
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just to just hire a recruiter. And we've talked on all of our podcasts
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here Kevin behind the Scenes as well about the running backs coaches off from a
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designated recruiter. And I think he bristles at that because there are I think
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he's seen good coaches get passed by for recruiters, and so it's this is
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just him shouting from a mountaintop, and Ohio State is one of those mountaintops
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where you're saying, hey, head coaches, you don't have to just hire
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somebody that can recruit because you have guys that out there out there that can
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teach the position, coach the position, and also recruit, you can you
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can get all of that in one the old BJ Mullens triple threat. There
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you go, she whizz, how's that? How's that for a name?
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Jack? Wow? There you go? All right, So from coach Locke
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to BJ Mullens and now, okay, Tony, I've made you wait long
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enough. Let's talk about Julian saying. The conversation around him feels like it
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hasn't changed quite as much necessarily as the Jeremiah Smith conversation has in terms of
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expectations for this fall, but it you know, Ryan Day was asked about
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why he lost his black stripe, and you know what went in that decision
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and what they've seen out of him this spring, and it feels like the
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trajectory there is pretty you know, pretty sign pretty upward and pretty steep.
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Yeah, And he kept saying he sees a bright future for Julian saying,
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and I asked him about getting the black strip removed, and my thought was
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like, is it is there some danger to it doing it this early when
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you've got other guys in the room that are going to see this, and
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he's like, they see it anyway. You know there that this is not
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a secret. A lot of times the black stripe is is a process.
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You know, you're getting feedback from the teammates, so everybody sees that.
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The other quarterbacks see that, they encourage it. And he has made plays,
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he's been composed, he's done everything that you would hope a freshman would
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do and probably nothing you would expect them to do in that way. And
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I think the most telling thing to me is that there a couple of times
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when he was asked about saying competing for the job or whatever, and he
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never wants no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, I'm
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not saying he's. He didn't say he's. He said he The quote was
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he's in the mix, which he said about a lot of guys over the
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years. But never once did he try to like, well, let's just
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slow things down. Yeah, And I don't know how much you're gonna say
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that, because I don't think you want to say you have no chance,
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because if you're as talented as they clearly feel that he is, there,
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of course is a way that you're in the mix. And part of the
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thing that makes you in the mix is there may be more than one quarterback.
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You play significant snaps for Ohio State this year based on the number of
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games that they're anticipating they may be playing and the fact that they are probably
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gonna be running the quarterback more than they have in a lot of recent years.
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Yeah, for sure. And he said, we need three guys.
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You know, they're wanting three guys to play, and it's again going to
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come down to actually playing those guys in games because they always talk about it.
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Now more than ever, though, you're gonna need to do it,
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and so you need those guys. And he said, well, Julian needs
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to prepare like he's going to play, like he is going to start,
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because at any point he could be in there, be thrust into the action
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and be called upon because they've seen it. That's not a disruption at all.
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Jerry to say no, but sorry to there, but he's got to
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be ready to go because he could be thrust in there at any point.
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Yeah, and we'll see how much he's thrust in there this Saturday, because
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they have been kind of rolling these guys to a certain degree during practice where
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it's not just hey, will Howard and Devin Brown are with the ones,
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and Lincoln Keeno Holst was with the twos. It sounds like they're kind of
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rolling these guys, and you know, I think the approach this spring game.
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On Saturday, Brian Day talked about guys with a thousand reps, so
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Traveon Henderson, for example, probably doesn't need to get tackled. You're gonna
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have see those guys in a little bit early. You're well, they're gonna
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play some thud and then you're gonna bring in some of the younger guys.
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I would, you know, quarterbacks obviously non contract jerseys. I'm expecting to
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see probably at least three or four of those quarterbacks with the Ones, and
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maybe all five at some point. Yeah, I think we'll see all five.
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I do wonder how much of Will Howard and Devin Brown you need to
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see, even though they are the two guys that have not won the job
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yet. So it's like, can you you guys are good? No where
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it's like no, Well, they're still competing for the job, so it
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will be interesting to see how they break that up. I do think they
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need to get everybody involved. We've seen in the past where sometimes guys will
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switch teams now and this may just be offense versus defense, so there won't
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be any anything like that. But yeah, you're just gonna roll the guys
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through there like they do in practice. And sometimes the offensive line has always
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been like the biggest issue in the spring game. When they've split it up,
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it sounds like they'll be okay there. But even in that situation,
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you're gonna have guys that don't necessarily need to play too long. But the
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big names, you know, Mecca Book, Travian Henderson probably won't be out
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there for more than a series or two, which is the same case last
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year, and then they'll go to then he said, and then we'll start
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tackling, and you know, let's talk about that offensive line. I felt
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pretty validated. I said. A week or so back, we were listening
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to one of the one of the interviews and they were talking about, you
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know, how they taker Shabola inside and guard right after. How can you
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out how Tager Shabola was more of a true tackle, And I said,
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I wonder if that means that Josh Fryar is in pretty good shape in terms
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of that right tackle spot. It sounds like Josh Friar's in pretty good shape
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when it comes to that right tackle spot. Yeah, and you know,
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they did look at Josh Farrett guard and take at tackle just to see what
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it looked like. But the confidence continues to be high on Josh Fryer.
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Ryan. They talked about how he's reshaped his body. He's lost some weight,
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gotten quicker, better feet, and he said both both Josh Simmons and
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Josh Fryer are doing better in the pass protection. They're going against some really
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good defensive ends every single day, and you can see the growth throughout from
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last year to now and then the ability to pass protect. But just keeps
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coming down to the right guard situation. They have been moving Carson Hinzman and
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Steff mclaughland both in there to give them both a look. And I tend
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to think that one of those two guys will perhaps will probably be the right
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guard at some point this season. But you know, well we see we
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see them playing next to each other spring game. You very well might you
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I would assume they're going to kind of roll guys, see you know,
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I mean, whether whether they do it in the spring game or in practice
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on Friday or whenever I'm sure you've seen that look because they just want to
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see what this all looks like with all these different guys in these different spots.
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The way Ryan Day talked about the offensive line was you know, well
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we're gonna fit. It was I'm going to paraphrase this, but it was
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basically, we've got to figure out that right side, that right guard position,
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which was like he didn't say right tackle, so he feels and Josh
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Fryer, he said, has lost weight, is you know, kind of
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reshaped his body a little bit, has better bend, just that you know,
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it's maybe physically in better shape to play that tackle position. Josh Simmons
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very different thing. He said that was more mental, just getting the you
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know, getting the mental side of the game, getting you know, learned
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in the offense all, you know, not necessarily in the offense, but
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that kind of element where he was more of a physical thing for Josh Fryer,
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more of a mental thing for Josh Simmons. They both are now at
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the point where it seems like you can kind of write those names on the
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depth chart in inc and then if it's if you've got center and right guard
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and you're just siding behind four guys who they like, they think pretty highly
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of. It feels like the offensive line is in pretty good shape. I
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will say. Ryan Day was asked, do you feel like your your right
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guard is in the room now? And he did say, we're gonna look
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at everything, so like he didn't say yes, he didn't say no.
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He's like, we'll look at it after spring, but we're not going to
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just assume that they are. They're going to look at everything, and if
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there's somebody out there that maybe they can fund that, it would be a
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significant step up in the portal. Maybe they go that way. The Josh
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Simmons thing, we talked with him a couple weeks ago and I just wrote
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about him for I think yesterday, and he talked about the mental aspect of
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it. One of those things being you come from San Diego State, you
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come to Ohio State, you slow realized, maybe you don't realize initially,
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like any play that you screw up can cost you a game at Notre Dame,
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at Penn State, at Michigan, these are like totally different stakes than
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he's ever played with, and that it just takes a little while for that
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to become like a second nature. Where it's like, these are big time
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games. If you lose a game of San Diego State, don't worry,
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you might lose one next week too. You make one bad play and you
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lose a game at Ohio State, the stakes are far far different. Yeah,
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yeah, no disrespect to San Jose State, but that is not exactly
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Notre Dame or Beaver Stadium or any of any of those spots. The transfer
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portal, they're going to be looking at someone at you know, potentially looking
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into the transfer portal after the spring, at right guard, as you said,
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they're potentially potentially going to be looking in the transfer portal at running back
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as well. He was asked about Dalan Hayden and the you know, let's
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call it a significant smoke that Dalan Hayden is interested in entering the transfer portal
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after the spring. He was asked about that. Didn't really want to talk
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about that, kind of said, like keep those conversations private, but they
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have now. Assuming Heyden it does leave, You've got Trevian Henderson, You've
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got Quen Shawn Judkins, You've got the two true freshmen, James People's Sam
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William Stixon. You get also, he said five. He said well,
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we want five. We've got five in there right now, And I thought,
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you don't have five if Dave Hayden leaves and I went, oh,
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no, TC Cafe, you don't got that walk on there as well.
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And so it sounds like they're maybe okay with what they've got there. And
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but it may be similar to the right guard thing where if the right thing
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pops up, right, opportunity pops up, sure take a look. Well,
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and when he says we want five, to me, that's five scholarships,
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you know, So I think they may still be looking out there and
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may have already zeroed in on somebody. But because when you talk about numbers
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like that, you're talking about as it relates to the eighty five generally,
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you know that's true. You know, we like four quarterbacks, like five
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running backs. We like you know, nineteen offensive lineman. That's way more
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than next lee, but you know, like five receivers. I can remember
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a bunch of years when they had like twelve offensive line Jim Baudman, Jim
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Trusse will like to have at least seven offensive linemen. But yeah, I
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wouldn't be shocked if they bring somebody in. But you know who is who
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is that going to be. I know there's rumors or there's speculations about the
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kid from UMass. Yeah, and that might be a good fit for somebody
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who has experienced. But it's just looking for one final go round. But
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then next year, like we don't, I guess we don't need to get
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in too far into it right now, but you're going to be losing a
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bunch of guys, certainly two guys after this year. Probably well, we
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had they, you know, have a bunch of running back offers out.
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It sounds like they're in decent shape with Bo Jackson, who's in state.
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Sounds like they're in decent shape with Jordan Davis who's out from California. And
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right before we hit record Byron Lewis from Florida, one of the other running
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back targets walk by just just a couple of minutes before we hit records.
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So yeah, I'm expecting a deep class at running back this cycle. And
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I think they are keeping all of their all of their lines in the water.
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There was there anything else that Oh, let's talk. Let's talk real
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quick about tickets. Fifty thousand tickets already sold. Forecast looks good. I
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mean, it sounds it sounds like this is. You know, this is
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always a nice recruiting weekend. This is going to be a pretty big recruiting
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weekend as well. I think this year it seems like this is this is
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set up to be a pretty good event for just atmosphere wise. Sixty six
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and Sonny is what my phone says right now. Some really talented wide receivers
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going to be visiting as well. Jamie French Decorian Moore to five star guys,
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Kevin, did you have something? Yeah, one of you or Steven
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Hammond wants to know what the format is going to be. In the format,
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We have not gotten full details on that. Offense versus defense. Probably
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we did get some point systems, not the entirely modified Trustleford's scoring system,
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but six points for a defensive touchdown, six point or three points for defensive
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turnover, three points for a three and out. That that feels three points
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for a defensive turnover feels like that should be worth That feels low if a
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three and out is worth three, But that's that's that's a three and out
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you get off the field. But also you're you know, they pumped the
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ball forty yards down the field. It feels like it feels like a turnover
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should be worth four or five. Well, i'd say turnover, you're it's
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like a you've eliminated three points maybe from the offense scoring, you get three
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points back. It's like a six point turnaround if you think about it,
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Tom So, it's basically worth six points. Is this why they haven't forced
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many turnovers over the years? Is it worth lack of Yeah, exactly,
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it's too much work. Let's just get a three and out now if you
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get six actual points, but they probably do exactly. There you go.
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Do we have other questions we want to get through? Really? Tuesday,
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hope coach Block goes on the recruited trail with Justin Fryme coach Hope hoping coach
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lock goes on the recruiting trail with Justin France. Is that some people are
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not sold on coach fries recruiting and then bringing up coach lock in will help?
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Why not make the entire airplane out of Brian Hartline and Tim Walton.
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That's a that's really a pretty good question. I'm not sure that I'm not
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sure what the drag to lift ratio and this gentleman, are I am interested
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to see the impact that Carlos Locklin has on the recruiting trail. As I
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said on Big Me Kickoff a few days that back when this was announced or
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a week ago or whatever, or when Dallan Ayden left watching watching his coach
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locks approach to recruiting, and I compared it to when Richardriguez took over Michigan
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and his approach to recruiting was like, I'm still at West Virginia. I'm
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going to recruit like a West Virginia And so does he does. He certainly
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embraces being in Ohio State, but the amount of doors that are open now
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as at Ohio State, you had plenty of doors open at Oregon as well.
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But I think it'll be interesting to just to watch how he embraces the
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nation hand. Ohile, I would like to point out that just in the
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last like five minutes, we've talked about josh Immon's time at San Diego State
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where he was coached by Brady Hook, talked about the transfer running back from
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UMass where he was coached by Ah Oh, no, I know, Jim
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Bowman, No, Don Brown, come on, come on, come on,
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and now Rich Rodriguez, Do you have anything for me on Gary Moeller?
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No, no, but you know the weekend is coming up. Okay,
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Mix one here Lisa Sims. I wonder if Michigan will start having the
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same issues they had with that we had with Alfred at least suddenly improved there.
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Okay, So question from Lisa s No, that's too obvious. Let's
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go with l Simmons. Will Michigan Simms? Sorry, will will Michigan have
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the same issue with Alfred recruiting that Ohio State did? I don't know that.
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I think there's anything there that's going to materially change his approach. I
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mean, maybe he changes his approach, but it has felt like a lot
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of the issues there had to do with chasing the national guys and not taking
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the in state guys. And it feels like Ohio State has generally more and
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better in state guys than Michigan does. So does that mean Alfred needs to
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chase the Ohio guys in order to change his philosophy or is he just gonna,
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you know, keep casting a wide net. I mean, well,
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you know, Michigan, they do every down. He's gonna have some good
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in state guys. You know, they've got Donovan Edwards, Mike Weber,
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assertainly some others around them. I think the Michigan the running back situation that
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they've had over the past is going to be pretty similar to what Tony Alfron
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has done in terms of having linebackers play running back, which they do Hassan
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Haskins, Kilaoul Mullings. So that is something that will be fromamiliar. But
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the reach Michigan does a lot more localize, I think recruiting with the running
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backs and sometimes then you know, of course Massachusetts and Connecticut like those kinds
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of reaches that I don't know if Tony Alfred I think Tony Alfred will improve
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that because he's going to have he has more connections and more familiarity, and
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more places have familiarity with him. So I don't know that you need to
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let's see what you know, Let's go grab the best guy in Connecticut or
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Rhode Island. Well, I think you might be looking at a situation where
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he is a material upgrade from Mike Hart on the recruiting trail. Like Mike
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Hart did not have a reputation as being the most let's site enthusiastic recruiter,
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so you know this is an opportunity to potentially for them to upgrade there.
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Does does that represent a leaps and bounds increase over what he was doing at
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Ohio State? I don't know. We'll see how much of this is Searan
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Morriph call in terms of which running backs are pursued and versus Tony Alfred's call.
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Like everyone runs this a little differently, Like a lot of times it's
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the position coach who kind of has to say and then the head coach gets
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to kind of thump it up everything. If the head coach is like,
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let's not waste our time trying to chase that kid from Florida. Let's just
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do with somebody we're more likely to get. Yeah, a lot of cookie
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questions here. This is two thousand and two better cookie, soft punchy.
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I mean, is that a serious question? No, it can't be the
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only there There is a time and a place for the hard cookie, but
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at that time in place also requires milk, milk or you just you have
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nothing. All you have is all I have is these hard blank chips.
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A hoy, It's well, I guess I guess I'm You're gonna have to
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have these. Yeah, I mean that's but grudgingly. Yeah. And and
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the origin of that was he Carlos Laughlan uses the phrase soft batch that is
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a so so that prompted the conversation about cookies. So ifause you're wondering why
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are we getting cookie questions, there's the answer. Yes, also soft cookies
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obviously sooner. I mean an undermaker cookies by like forty five seconds to ninety
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second. Don't make them raw though I also don't believe in eating. I
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didn't say under bake it by twelve minutes. I said forty five seconds ninety
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seconds, and it's going to be better. I think a lot of it.
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Yeah, the whole article about what maki. Yeah, it's like,
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you know, shortening instead of you know, baking, so instead of baking.
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Powder can ruin everything. But who are the terrorists out there that would
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choose the crunchy, the hard cookie over the soft cookie. I don't I
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don't want to know them, whoever they are, do not fly. But
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those people on the do not fly list. In case you're wondering what the
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banging noise is that it is small, it is well, this is spiritually
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very similar to a Buckye Weekly Podcast. So they are setting up for the
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coaches Clinic and here, so they're getting stands set up over there and all
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the stage and all that kind of stuff. So that's the noise. Next
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up, a gig question from toy b. If we were to give nicknames
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to the fun I had hosts, which one would be quote unquote song Ask
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Cookie, Well, there's only one of us sitting down during the show.
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Next question, because I'm tired of carrying YouTube desired to coach the position something
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something to predecessor l I don't think that that's necessarily true either. And you
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know, I know it's very fashionable to take shots at Tony Alford. And
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you know what we've said before, we're not retconning anything here. No one
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when Tony Alford was in Ohio state, you know, that was not that
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was not someone who ever got singled out as like this is one of the
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absolute best in the nation. Carlos Laughlin did say he's, you know,
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friends with Tony Alford, and I think respects Tony Alford and didn't want to
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get into you know, running him down or whatever. So you know,
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I don't you know, this is this is not upgrading from I don't know,
24:02
Billy Davis or Nixi Celiano. This is you know, Tony Alford was
24:06
a long time coach at Ohio say it did perfectly fine job. He was
24:10
not He was not a disaster. This is this is not like, oh
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and now we actually have a functional adult in the room like he was.
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He was always completely fine. He just he was not Brian Hartline or Tim
24:19
Moulton in terms of recruiting and development, like as a whole packer. Yeah.
24:22
I also, I think you don't want to fall into the trap of
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the new guys automatically better. This is the best wait staff in the country,
24:30
or this is the best you know, offensive coordinator or whatever, like
24:33
everybody knew is the best. It's like, well, Randa could have hired
24:37
him last year, you know, so you know, we'll see how things
24:41
go. I think Ryan Day obviously loved the energy and you could see why
24:45
when he's talking about the position and the way he feels about his players.
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And you're gonna have some really good players to coach here, So I think
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it's gonna work out. Yeah, And he did say he hopes he's here
24:55
for a very long time. And I think what nine and a half years
24:57
is the record. Well, and he's and he's got great recruiting connections across
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the South, which could open some things up for Ohio State in areas where
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they don't haven't necessarily had a lot of success, you know, not necessarily
25:10
Florida, but Alabama, Mississippi, places like that. So we'll see.
25:15
I think I think grading any coaching hire, you know, within a week
25:19
or two of when it's made, is a lot like grading an NFL draft,
25:23
and it's like, well, you know, maybe you'll be right,
25:26
and maybe you'll be incredibly wrong, and you're not actually going to know for
25:30
quite a while. Yeah. Well, and the good news is there's no
25:33
video or anything. If you say it's a terrible higher or tremendous hire,
25:37
nobody's going to prove you wrong or try to prove you wrong or right.
25:40
Four years, nobody's definitely going to try to prove you right. I'll say
25:42
that, nobody is going to try to prove you right. Welcome to the
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Internet. I'm here after cookies, Tony. You can always different cookies.
25:52
A nice ptchup helps available now I want to know exactly be a full pitch
25:56
ketchup or hot ketchup. I would catch up. This is your show you
26:02
do with the question of what you want. That is one of the most
26:04
haunting phrases I can remember. Oat chup they call it, I don't it's
26:11
vegan, unlike regular catchup, which is full of tomato meat. From y'all's
26:17
observations, how does the twenty four buck I take compared to last year's Well,
26:22
the defense should be improved, I think from where it was in twenty
26:27
three, and it was pretty darn good in twenty three. You've got obviously
26:32
some spots where you've got new faces, so you know, we don't one
26:37
hundred percent know, like will the linebacker play be up to the standard of
26:40
last year or will it be better or will it not be up to the
26:41
standard of last year. I think I'm expecting pretty big things to be from
26:47
the defense. I think expecting an upgrade on the offensive line. I think
26:51
the running backs are probably going to be a significant upgrade. You know,
26:55
wide receivers, you're you know, Marvin Harrison is still over there. You're
27:00
not gonna believe that Marvin Harrison is working the monarch machine inside the wood Hayes
27:03
Athletic Center. I O I for one, and sucked get a house,
27:08
so he uh, you know, he's he's not the easiest person in the
27:12
world to repair to replace. But you've got some other talented guys there,
27:17
I mean, getting a book back and makes that a really intriguing units.
27:21
I think it's comparable tight end. We'll see do they get the production out
27:25
of j Scott or whoever else they got to the Cads Dover offensive line feels
27:30
like it's pretty good. Quarterback is going to be It's gonna be different,
27:33
and we don't you know, I don't want to say definitely gonna be better,
27:37
and I don't want to say definitely could be worse. It's gonna be
27:40
different because it's gonna be more you know, balance run pass, which is
27:45
going to make a pretty big difference. Yeah, and that difference could make
27:48
the offense better as a whole because the running aspect will be there, right.
27:51
They talked about that. That's why they need they want to have three
27:53
quarterbacks going because they will run some and if you run some, they might
27:57
get hurt. He talked about Austin fields at the end of twenty nineteen twenty
28:02
twenty season. Basically, you know, playing on you know, playing hurt
28:04
throughout the end of that because of the running aspect of it, and they
28:08
didn't have anybody really behind him, right, you know. Yeah, so
28:11
they will have that this year, So I do think they'll be pretty good.
28:15
Yeah. I was just thinking back because he was talking about that and
28:18
it was like he had that knee injury at was it at Michigan stuff with
28:21
the kne injury and then came back in through the one touchdown to Garrett Wilson
28:25
got speared on the kidney by James Kalski in the Sugar Bowl, came back.
28:30
I mean that was one of those where I'm like, that looks like
28:33
internal bleeding and he was back out there one play later. I don't know
28:36
how he did that. Then against Michigan in twenty twenty, he got duped
28:40
into thinking there was going to be a game and there wasn't. Too soon.
28:45
Too soon. We're good, all right. So that will do it
28:47
for today. We have a bunch more exciting stuff coming up later this week.
28:51
We'll be inside Ohio Stadium on Friday watching the Buckeyes have their final practice
28:55
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29:40
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29:45
this team could look like. Because I didn't really sum up my answer earlier,
29:48
but I think they might be pretty darn good this year and better than
29:52
last year. And it wasn't a bad season last year, so that will
29:53
do it for today. Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a
29:56
great day. We'll talk to get them well.