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NFL DFS Week 8 Contrarian Constructions | Main Slate DraftKings & FanDuel Roster Construction · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go. Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 2: What is going on Ship It Nation YouTube station?
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  Speaker 3: We are back with a week eight edition of the
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  Speaker 3: Contrarian Construction Shows. It's your boy Ham. I got my
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  Speaker 3: guy Bellman in here with me and Matt. I'm feeling
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  Speaker 3: very good about this slate. I got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: Contrarian guys I want to get to, but I'm going
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  Speaker 3: to bring you in right away so we can get
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  Speaker 3: things cranking, man.
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  Speaker 2: How are you doing? How are you feeling about this
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  Speaker 2: week eight?
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing okay, man. Happy to be on here with you.
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  Speaker 4: Unfortunately, I had to miss the Friday show for some
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  Speaker 4: circumstances that you know about, and we're doing okay though.
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  Speaker 4: So like I said, happy to be out here with you.
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  Speaker 4: I got some contrarian takes too. So I don't think
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  Speaker 4: we're going to be fighting as much today as we
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  Speaker 4: usually do, which is sad, but also good in a way.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just interested to see if our contrarian takes are
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  Speaker 4: the same. I feel like some of them are, some
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  Speaker 4: of them aren't. Excited to talk it out. Yeah, excited
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  Speaker 4: to talk it out.
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  Speaker 3: This is my favorite show of the week because we're
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  Speaker 3: going to get inactives during the show.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to.
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  Speaker 3: Talk about Who we like, who we don't like. We
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  Speaker 3: know what the field's doing now. We know Braylon Allen
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  Speaker 3: is in. Brees Hall is more likely out. So if
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  Speaker 3: someone in the chat, once that comes popping, can put
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  Speaker 3: it in there, we'll do it. But we're going to
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  Speaker 3: do it like we do each and every Sunday. I
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  Speaker 3: have our Stone 2.0 pulled up right now that I'm showing.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to go by DK. We're going to start
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  Speaker 3: at DK Projection. DK Projection over on DraftKings.com. We're Josh
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  Speaker 3: Allen against this Ravens team. One of the marquee games
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  Speaker 3: of the day. Got a 54.5 point total. So how
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  Speaker 3: are you handling these, I'll call them big boy quarterbacks?
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of good plays on this slate. There's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of game environments that look appealing. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of spots and tournaments you could make cases for. I
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  Speaker 4: don't have like a strong, strong stance on the high-priced quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 1: I think certainly.
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  Speaker 4: we've seen time and time again, Josh Allen always in play.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, in the game environment that Baltimore is likely
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  Speaker 4: to push them. Lamar on the other side is a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more difficult to get to given the time,
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  Speaker 4: you know, time he missed and the news coming out
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  Speaker 4: today that like, he's still not a hundred percent. That said,
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  Speaker 4: you'll get a massive ownership, an ownership drop in Lamar
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  Speaker 4: off of Allen.
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  Speaker 1: So that's appealing in its own right.
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  Speaker 4: And again, a game that should see a lot of
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  Speaker 4: points with both teams putting each other We talked about
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  Speaker 4: Burrow last week, and he had one of the best
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  Speaker 4: second halves of any quarterback this century. So he really
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  Speaker 4: put on a show and in a great spot today.
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  Speaker 4: You feel like if Tennessee can put up any points
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  Speaker 4: at all today, Burrow and that passing game could nuke.
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  Speaker 4: I like Trevor Lawrence also against the Colts team that
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  Speaker 4: just looks completely out of it. I think you could
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  Speaker 4: make cases, and I'm sure you're going to talk about
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  Speaker 4: Drake May, your boy, who you've been on a bunch.
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  Speaker 4: You can make cases for, I think, every top QB.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think any of them is a bad play.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't think one of them stands out.
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  Speaker 1: Do you?
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  Speaker 2: So, no, that's a great point.
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  Speaker 3: I started building teams last night and kind of looking
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  Speaker 3: at all that. And to your point, there's really not
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  Speaker 3: one QB that sticks out to me. And, Matt, I
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  Speaker 3: feel like when that's the case, I want a guy
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  Speaker 3: that has the best chance of getting a 40 ball,
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  Speaker 3: and that's Josh Allen. I mean, you're going to have
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  Speaker 3: to pay for him, but he's Superman. He is 7,700
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  Speaker 3: at home and 9,400 on FanDuel, so you're going to
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  Speaker 3: have to pay for him. But I think if you're
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  Speaker 3: in that boat where you don't know who it's going
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  Speaker 3: to be, could it be Burrow? Could it be Dak?
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  Speaker 3: Could it be Lamar? Who are we stacking with? When
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  Speaker 3: the chips are down, man, Josh Allen can rush for two,
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  Speaker 3: throw for two. He's obviously got the biggest projection, so
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  Speaker 3: you're not sneaking that by anybody. But I think his
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  Speaker 3: ownership– comes down a little bit and we have it
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  Speaker 3: at 10% right now. I think it actually comes in
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  Speaker 3: lower than that because people are going to want to
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  Speaker 3: play the Burrow stacks. They're going to want to play
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  Speaker 3: Dak and CD. They're going to want to play Jacoby.
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  Speaker 3: So I love some Josh Allen today. I really do.
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  Speaker 3: He's probably my, my top QB, but all those other
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  Speaker 3: quarterbacks that you mentioned, like we're playing, we're both playing
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  Speaker 3: one 50. And like we said, I mean, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to want a piece of some of all those guys,
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  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, the way you've beat the Titans traditionally, Matt
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  Speaker 3: is through the air. but we're going to get into
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  Speaker 3: running back. And obviously Jeffrey Simmons is no longer there.
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  Speaker 3: That's kind of picked your poison. I was looking to see,
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  Speaker 3: as you were talking Tennessee total points of Tennessee is
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  Speaker 3: going to score 17. So a Vegas thing. So Tennessee
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  Speaker 3: puts up 17. I think Joe Burrow could put up 42.
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  Speaker 3: That's obviously six touchdowns. So where are those going to
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  Speaker 3: come from? And then I do like, I do like
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  Speaker 3: your boy Drake May. I love me some Drake May
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  Speaker 3: today in Miami. I saw Ross just sent out a
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  Speaker 3: tweet about the weather. So certainly want to want to
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  Speaker 3: pay attention to that. I mean, I know it's baked
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  Speaker 3: into the projection and all this, that, and the other. But, Matt, personally,
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  Speaker 3: like when it's raining or snowing or something like that,
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily love it. But we'll see. And then
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  Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence, you nailed Trevor Lawrence. I like Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: They're slated to score four touchdowns as well. And so
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  Speaker 3: Tootin's going to get a lot of love. I think
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be contrarian. We are on the contrarian
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  Speaker 3: construction show. Give me some Lawrence today for sure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's a cheaper quarterback I like a lot who
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk about. For me, my biggest issue with Lawrence
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  Speaker 4: and why I'm not head over heels on him is
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  Speaker 4: week one against Cleveland.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it could be a similar outcome.
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  Speaker 4: Here where the Jags just roll, and he's really good
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  Speaker 4: in the first half, and then they just don't really
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  Speaker 4: need to throw in the second half.
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  Speaker 1: Alternatively, though, man, as you said, this is the.
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  Speaker 4: Contrarian construction show, and I just want to speak on
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  Speaker 4: kind of an overarching point. I've heard all week I've
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  Speaker 4: said it about how dead the Colts are. They got
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  Speaker 4: guys who have requested trades playing today.
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  Speaker 1: It's still the NFL, man.
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  Speaker 4: Like the talent discrepancy between any two teams is often very,
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  Speaker 4: very small.
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  Speaker 1: You know, the margins are thin.
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  Speaker 4: How crazy would it be to see the Colts come
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  Speaker 4: in and not even say and win that game, but
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  Speaker 4: like be super competitive?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, I don't think it's possible. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's definitely no interest in Dimes. But, you know, they
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  Speaker 3: traded Quentin Nelson, arguably their best offensive lineman. Danny Dimes
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  Speaker 3: isn't a great quarterback. And then you got Jacksonville on
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  Speaker 3: a week's rest. And they have, I don't know, Matt,
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  Speaker 3: to me, what, top three, top five defense out there? Like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't see how it stays competitive. And to your point, like,
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  Speaker 3: I do have Trevor Lawrence in a high-dollar team today.
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  Speaker 2: Because I do think they get 30.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm hoping that the Colts can put up 14,
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  Speaker 3: I say early. I'll say the first three quarters and
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  Speaker 3: keep the foot on the gas.
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  Speaker 2: So, certainly gets your point.
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  Speaker 3: But I think I'm in more on T-Law than you are,
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  Speaker 3: it sounds like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like him.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't like him that much more than– I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you talk about Allen. I like Dak more than you.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, we haven't even talked about Dak yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't talked.
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  Speaker 4: He's the same price as Lawrence. So I think Lawrence
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  Speaker 4: is a really good pivot off of Dak. But, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I like Dak here.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So I know you like Dak.
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  Speaker 3: So talk about Dak, and I'll kind of give you
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  Speaker 3: the counter reasons why I don't like Dak. But go ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so I could see scenarios where Dallas just rolls
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  Speaker 4: here and they run a lot or they just run
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  Speaker 4: the ball in the end zone anyways.
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  Speaker 1: And contrarian side of me wants to get away from Dak.
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  Speaker 4: But I like Bo Nix. against this Arizona defense last week.
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  Speaker 4: He got there now on the heels of a 60-yard
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  Speaker 4: rushing TD, but he still looked better than he had
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  Speaker 4: all year. Arizona's defense is not good. Dak's at home.
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  Speaker 4: And the biggest thing is Dallas' defense is atrocious. So
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  Speaker 4: I just don't have any confidence that they're going to
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  Speaker 4: be able to stop even a team like Arizona, meaning
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  Speaker 4: that I think Dallas.
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  Speaker 1: Has to throw. So that's why I like Dak.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think that's a guarantee, and I could see
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  Speaker 4: you backing off that ownership, but I think he's a
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  Speaker 4: good play.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, I mean, I love the Cowboys just in general.
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  Speaker 3: And the reasons I don't like Dak is because, A,
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  Speaker 3: I think, you know, we saw it Monday night and
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  Speaker 3: we saw Shottie talking about it. It's like this team
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  Speaker 3: is at its best when it's more of like a,
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  Speaker 3: I'll call it a 50-50 balance. And they gave Javante
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  Speaker 3: the ball. I just think they want to play more
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  Speaker 3: ground game. They have the offensive line, defensive line advantages,
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  Speaker 3: this Carolina team.
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  Speaker 2: Is missing Walter Nolan again this week. They're very bad.
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  Speaker 3: Buda Baker may get traded, showing up in mass to
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  Speaker 3: press conferences and stuff. So I think it's going to
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  Speaker 3: be more of a ground and pound with Goodson and
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  Speaker 3: more Javante than Goodson. But that's why I don't like
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  Speaker 3: Dak and Turner. If it's in 150, I'll certainly have some.
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  Speaker 3: But if I'm doing single entry at three, man, that's my,
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  Speaker 3: I'll say, reason not to play him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's going to be by far the highest zone too.
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  Speaker 4: I will say also, I feel like quarterback– Unless there's
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  Speaker 4: outlier performances, sure, especially with.
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  Speaker 1: Guys like Allen that rush it in.
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  Speaker 4: You can only play one guy, and there's so many
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  Speaker 4: different options that look similar. It's really hard to narrow
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  Speaker 4: it down. And I think this is a perfect example
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  Speaker 4: of a slate like that, where a lot of these
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  Speaker 4: guys look really good, especially at pricing.
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  Speaker 1: And it's unfortunate that you can only play one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's talk... about some of the cheaper guys there's
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  Speaker 3: some cheap guys that that i'm going to have some
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  Speaker 3: interest in i'm now sorting by dk salary anybody that
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  Speaker 3: we haven't touched on yet maybe some of these lower
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  Speaker 3: lower price guys that you have yes okay.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite qb on the slate i think i mean.
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  Speaker 4: If I were playing one lineup, I don't know if
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  Speaker 4: I would use him, but in like 150 settings, the
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  Speaker 4: guy I want to be most overweight on is Geno Smith.
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  Speaker 4: I like the Jets a lot today. And Braylon Allen,
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  Speaker 4: who I'm a huge fan of, you are too.
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  Speaker 1: We both love him.
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a great play today, but he's getting
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  Speaker 4: a lot of love. The passing game isn't. The Raiders'
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  Speaker 4: defense is bad. He's coasting track east. I really like
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  Speaker 4: the passing game with the Jets. You saw they had
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  Speaker 4: a little hashing out on the sideline last week. I
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  Speaker 4: think this is the perfect spot for them. Don't think
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  Speaker 4: that Gino doesn't want to give it to his old
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  Speaker 4: squad where he looked atrocious last year. I'm not playing
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  Speaker 4: it because of that, but it doesn't hurt. Can't believe
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying it, but I love Gino today.
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  Speaker 3: No, I think Gino's a great spot for GPPs. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get to Garrett Wilson, who I have a lot of.
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  Speaker 3: Braylon Allen's going to come in with tons of ownership,
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  Speaker 3: and rightfully so, but I'm with you. I do like Gino.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned Bo. I think Bo's okay. Two gross ones
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  Speaker 3: that I'll throw out, Matt. Kyler Murray, only 5,600 in
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  Speaker 3: a dome versus Lions defense. I know there are different
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  Speaker 3: offenses to the Packers.
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  Speaker 4: I'm off wanting to use teams against the Lions, I think,
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  Speaker 4: right now. I thought you made some great points last
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  Speaker 4: week or maybe the week before.
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  Speaker 1: That was last week.
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  Speaker 3: Last week against the Packers, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: They looked better off the bye. Their cornerback room is
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  Speaker 4: still bad, but Brian Branch is a dude. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: he's the best player in their secondary. He brought it
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  Speaker 4: last week, so.
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  Speaker 2: I get it.
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  Speaker 1: I get Kyler because he's so cheap.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's still not good.
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  Speaker 3: He's still not good, but he does have rushing upside,
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  Speaker 3: and the Lions should be the most popular defense on
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  Speaker 3: FanDuel today. But you got Justin Jefferson, who I think
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  Speaker 3: is better than Golden and Watson.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you could argue that. I like Jordan Addison.
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  Speaker 3: Once again, not that I like him because it's a
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  Speaker 3: revenge game, but TJ Hawkinson, revenge game narrative as well.
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  Speaker 3: I like Kyler going up against the Lions today. And
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  Speaker 3: then the last one, This is super gross, Matt, but
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  Speaker 3: Justin Herbert at only $ 5, 000. We talked about a buy.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe they got it right. You got Ladd McConkie off
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  Speaker 3: the injury report. You got Quentin Johnston off the injury report.
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  Speaker 3: You got Trey Harris off the injury report. If not now, Matt,
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  Speaker 3: when is the time in a dome? I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if this is a home game or a road game.
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  Speaker 3: It really doesn't matter. It's the same arena like Justin
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  Speaker 3: Herbert at $ 5, 000. Any interest there?
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  Speaker 1: Not really before you said it, but I get it.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, You've got to feel like this is about
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  Speaker 4: pride at this point. Coming off their bye, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: confident in the Rams' defense to shut out anyone. And
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  Speaker 4: you see these teams get healthier after the bye. I
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  Speaker 4: still worry about their O-line.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they definitely have some O-line woes. But when you're
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  Speaker 3: going up against Aaron Donald and Byron Young and co.,
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  Speaker 3: I certainly get it. And then, Matt, I'm surprised you
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  Speaker 3: didn't say your favorite quarterback in the whole wide world.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. I was about to talk about Baker.
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  Speaker 1: I like Baker.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you go Baker, then I got one for you
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  Speaker 2: after that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not my favorite quarterback in the whole world,
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  Speaker 4: but I thought that's who you were talking about because
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  Speaker 4: I seem to like him all the time.
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  Speaker 1: And Baker is in play for me here. Last week
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  Speaker 1: was weird.
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  Speaker 4: The game script, not even because Bucky just dominated, but
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  Speaker 4: also the defense, how bad Carolina played. Tampa didn't need
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  Speaker 4: to throw at all. I think you have a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of a different story today. You got Baker. Definitely
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  Speaker 4: wanting to give it to Stefanski. No doubt about that
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  Speaker 4: on the other sidelines there. Baker again, man, like he
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  Speaker 4: hasn't been good this year. But I still think he's
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  Speaker 4: talented and you got cheap options. All the same cheap
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  Speaker 4: options that were chalk last week aren't getting played this week.
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  Speaker 1: I love running it back with like Baker, Otten, Hurst, Godwin.
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  Speaker 4: They're the same plays, man. Like I know you love
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  Speaker 4: that as much as you don't like Baker, probably even Tampa.
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  Speaker 4: I know you love the idea.
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  Speaker 3: I love the idea, now that you say it that way,
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  Speaker 3: because didn't Hurst and Otten put up as many points
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  Speaker 3: as you did?
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. And, like, that's not going to happen again. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: maybe they don't smash, but I'm willing to put my
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  Speaker 1: money on it at ownership a week after they were
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  Speaker 1: super chalky.
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  Speaker 2: So maybe you.
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  Speaker 1: Like the weapons instead of Baker, but I'm in on
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  Speaker 1: Baker here. Who's the QB you were talking about?
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  Speaker 2: Well, hold on. Let's get to Sean. Would you rather
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  Speaker 2: play Maystacks or Genostacks?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I'd rather play Geno stacks in tournaments. I
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  Speaker 4: think there's more upside, but it's hard to say like
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  Speaker 4: in smaller field, like cash game that may doesn't have
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  Speaker 4: a higher floor, you know, and the weapons are pretty
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  Speaker 4: easy to secure from new England right now with all the,
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  Speaker 4: all the injuries that are going through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Brown. So you're going to have Douglas, you're going
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  Speaker 3: to have Henry as the top two, I'll call them
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  Speaker 3: pass catching options. And then if you wanted to throw
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  Speaker 3: in remand, Ray would kind of be number three and
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  Speaker 3: then maybe Efton Chisholm or rare Don in a big tournament.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, though, in tournaments.
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  Speaker 3: It's Geno because I know Garrett Wilson. I think Garrett
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  Speaker 3: Wilson's smash week will get there. The one that I
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  Speaker 3: was going to talk about that will move on to
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  Speaker 3: running back is your boy. Is your boy, Matt? He's
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  Speaker 3: not an NFL quarterback.
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  Speaker 2: He's a running back that stands behind the line. Malik
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  Speaker 2: Willis at.
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  Speaker 3: $ 4, 900.
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  Speaker 2: He was cutting up last week. He's only 65.
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  Speaker 3: He's stoned men on– I guess he's not stoned men
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: on FanDuel, but 65. He put up 22, almost 23 FanDuel.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: He's going to rush. He's going to pass. So any
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: love for Malik.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Willis this week.
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: I don't even need to bring back with him.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it. Let me ask you, Malik
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: or Herbert? Same price, basically.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Malik.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Everyone's going to play the other side of that game.
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: They're coming off winning on the road as a huge dog.
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: Now they're back home.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: I like it. I'm in on it.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: I'm going to have some Malik in 150 for sure.
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: Good stuff there.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: I got a comment on Jeff's comment here. Raiders revenge
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: against Geno. Raiders hate that dude. I can't say I
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: hate that take. Because honestly, I'm someone that often likes
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: to play the other side of the revenge game. The
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Raiders are not going to want to let Geno Smith
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: eat them up here. And I could see why you
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: would be like, let me play the Raiders D in
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: this spot.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: That said... The Jets and Geno aren't popular.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: And I just think their defense, the Raiders, that is
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: bad enough where the Jets offense is good enough to
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: take advantage of it.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: So I see that side of it. I'm just playing
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: the Geno side.
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And the only thing I would say to that too,
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: is that if Pete Carroll was still there, maybe try
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: to get the, but this is a new regime, maybe
• 16:49
  Speaker 3: the same GM, but Geno, Geno has in his mind,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I hate the Raiders, regardless of if Pete Carroll there,
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: that GM's probably still there.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Great point. Great point.
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: Like the revenge is, definitely there a hundred percent with
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Gino or the wanting to get back. Whereas the Raiders,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: I'm sure it's there a little bit, but on some guys,
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: not on some guys.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: To your point.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: Moving over to running backs for Matt.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: We say it every single stinking week, but it is
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: just absolutely loaded this week. We got, they said it
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: on the show this morning. We got the big dogs
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: and the big dog, but we got the big dogs
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: not garnering much ownership because you got the Jonah, Jonah
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Coleman's of the world. You got the Braylon Allen's of
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: the world, but Man, how are you handling– let's just
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: talk about the running back room in general.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: How are you handling this running back room? Are you
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: fading the big dogs?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: Are you going mid-tier? How are you handling it?
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: It's tough, man, because, like, the four guys I messaged
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: you about all are really good plays. They all don't
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: feel like– you don't feel get the warm and fuzzies
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: playing them. And I'm talking about Ramondre, Chase Brown, Braylon Allen,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: and Jonah Coleman. I think those are the four highest, like,
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: best value RBs on the slate.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I'll say that again real quick.
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Ramondre, Chase Brown, Brees Hall, and Jonah Coleman.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Not Brees Hall, Braylon Allen.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Braylon Allen, excuse me. Sorry about that. And to that point,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: I think all of them are very good plays to
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: different degrees.
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: You know, I think Braylon is probably my favorite now,
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: you know, with Brees Hall out in that spot. I
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: like a lot, but I also like the passing game.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: So Chase Brown, I think is going to be uber popular.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: He hasn't looked great this year. Like you can poke
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: holes in all of them, but they all look good.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: And I also like the expensive running backs, especially Gibbs,
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: who is certainly overpriced, but he's the top commodity in
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: fantasy football. Always, every week, this week is no exception.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: So I want to be over the field on Gibbs
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: and then got to go back to the beginning of
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: the show. My man free rolls DFS, buddy from the
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: League of Legends streets to saying, if I don't tout Corum,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: he's going to eat his pet ostrich, Henrietta. I hope
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: ostriches taste good because Coram is not someone I'm touting today.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: You and me both. Uh, look, look, the only thing I'll,
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: I'll say I disagree with you on is, man, it's
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: tough for me to get to Jameer Gibbs at 9,500.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I think he's 93 or 94 on FanDuel. Like he's
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: got to do a lot and the Vikings just don't
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: allow you to do a lot. A, I mean, they
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: got a really good defense. Um, And they just slow
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: the game down. So I think I'm out on Gibbs.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: I think I'm out on Bijon. I mean, obviously 150
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: I'm in, but single entry, things like that. Matt, I'm
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: just going to let the cat out of the bag, man.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Are they the same price?
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: Maybe they are, but it's $ 7, 200 big dog today for me.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: I've said him for seven weeks in the one week
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: I didn't he went for 37 but this is the
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: cheapest that the big dog has been since week one
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: he gets Lamar back and what Lamar does is Lamar
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: opens up those running lanes for the big dog because
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: you have to account for number eight and.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: He's only $ 7, 200.
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: On DraftKings he's 8,500 bucks on FanDuel negative 200 to
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: score a touchdown so To me, it's a big dog
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: kind of day. I think he outscores those top-end running backs.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Last week, I was 75% on Bucky, Matt. I don't
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: know if I'll be 75% big dog today, but, man,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: give me some Derrick Henry at $ 7, 200. Any interest in
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry today?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I have interest for sure, but not as much as
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you do.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Not 75% interest?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Definitely not.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, I love the stance. He's not going to
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: be high-owned.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: He's going to be super low-owned on both sides.
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: If you go that high and he somehow, like, not somehow,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he does a vintage Derrick Henry, scores twice,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: has 200 on the ground, like, I mean, you're.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Setting yourself up for a big day.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, he'll have 100 on the ground and he'll
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: have at least one touchdown.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: That's a minimum.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's a minimum. You need a lot more than that, though. Yeah, exactly.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: That's 19. I agree. I also expect him to get
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: at least that, but he needs quite a bit more
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: than that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: How much more? I mean, he needs a lot more,
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: assuming those other guys, you know, do. I mean, this
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: is a tough spot for Gibbs.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I get it. I agree with you.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: Like, it's really hard to get to Gibbs, given his
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: price and the matchup he's in. But I think that
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: that's what the field is saying also. And his upside
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: in any matchup is still. I mean, I think you
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: can make cases for both sides of it, personally.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I think.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Rank your top three running backs.
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: I'm going to go Braylon Allen one. I mean, why
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: fix what's not broken, right? Like he's done it for us.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: He's still cheap. Great spot, et cetera, et cetera. Man,
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: I really like what I've seen from Jonah Coleman and J.K.
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: Dobbins.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: J.K. Dobbins, pretty dusty. And I'm a Dobbins guy.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: And like, they're going to run him on the goal line,
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: but they're not going to outwork him. And, If they're
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: trailing in this game, Coleman's going to get a ton
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: of the work. He's so cheap, and I think he
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: gets forgotten about now. Not forgotten about, but his ownership
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: is a lot lower than if Brees Hall had been playing.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to say Jonah Coleman, two. Three, I'm
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: going to go Ramondre.
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: I like him more than Chase Brown, and obviously it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: close between all these guys.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I just feel most icky about Chase Brown. Really?
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: That's surprising to me.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: I just don't think he's good. And that doesn't really matter.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: Like they're in such a good spot. So, I mean, again,
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: I got to emphasize that I think they're all really
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: good plays and like deciphering between them is difficult.
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: My, I like the big dog.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: I like Javante Williams for those reasons I alluded to earlier,
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: where I think it's going to be more ground to pound.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I think he had 25 rushes, if I'm not mistaken.
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: I think it's more of the same from Monday night
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and they're just going to dominate on the ground. Another one, Matt,
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: you didn't mention, and he's too expensive. He's not going
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: to get owned, but Kyron Williams. Kyron Williams is a
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: great spot. I mean, this Chargers defense is a defense
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: we've attacked all season long. So I'm in on some
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Kyron Williams as well. And then let me tell you
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: why I like Chase Brown is, I mean, Matt, the
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: reason we haven't, why you don't really run against the
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Titans defense is because big number 98, big Jeff, Jeff
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Simmons is in there just clogging things up, wreaking havoc. And, hey,
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: news alert, he's not going to be in there today.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: And it's the Chase Brown show for me. The Titans
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: have all but quit. Literally, I mean, probably the best
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: defensive lineman in the game. I mean, defensive tackle, I
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: should say. Obviously, Miles Garrett's on the D-line. But defensive tackle,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: give me some Chase Brown.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I think he's going to come in super low-owned.
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: Let's look at pricing.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Super low-owned?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Now that we got Ray Lown. No way.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: He's going to be, like, No, he's going to be
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the highest running back on the slate.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: No, no chance.
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: You think Braylon Allen is going to be less owned than.
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: They'll be very comparable. Especially because Brown was the guy
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: that people were playing all week. Like Braylon Allen, you
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: needed the Brees Hall news. Brown's going to be uber.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: It's them two and Stevenson. I think that Stevenson might
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: end up being the actual highest owned But I'm not
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: even talking about between those three. I think that outside
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: of those three, I'll be shocked if anyone's higher on
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: than Brown.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: Correct. Yes.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I would have it Stevenson, Allen, Brown when it comes
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: to ownership.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: Maybe. Yeah.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, so maybe we'll meet somewhere in the middle.
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: I just think all three are pretty similarly owned. And
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: I'm not really fighting the ownership between any of the three.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: I could see it coming out any different way.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: I like Chase Allen over Brown. Any other running backs?
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: We didn't really talk about Tootin. We didn't talk about
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Ollie Gordon, who had a good game. We didn't talk
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: about Tony Pollard. Any other running backs that you want
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: to touch on? Oh, I got one other running back.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Go ahead. That's your boy, Ollie Gordon.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Ollie Gordon.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I'm off Ollie Gordon today, but I do have one
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that's in a nut spot as well.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: You know who I like? And this pains me to say,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I like Jalen Warren. He's just been so good. How
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: could he not be in play? I know... Dusty Rico
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: Dowell's there, but so what?
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: Like Warren's their dude. He's the big play guy. And
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: one thing, yeah, I forgot to say about Chase Brown too.
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: Like part of the reason I don't like, I feel
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: icky about him is like the Bengals don't even love him.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: They bring in P Ryan a lot. If they get
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: up big, how much are they going to even work?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: Chase Brown. I worry about these things at ownership, man.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I just do.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, uh, uh, I mean, obviously, I could be wrong.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: No, I think Brown, as our guy D-Gen used to say,
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: I think he moonwalks back, man. I don't think people
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: are clicking 6,300 Brown when they can kick $ 6, 100 Allen anymore.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: Just my take on that. Yeah, we disagree there.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: We disagree, but we'll see.
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: I could see Brown in that big mid-season tournament being
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: like 50% owned.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: No, no chance.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah. he played 75% of the snaps the last week.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I know P Ryan got the one yarder, but Brown
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: can catch passes. It's going to, it's going to be,
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: it's going to be pick how you want to get
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: the 35 points for the Bengals today. I personally think
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Brown's a large part of that. We shall see though.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: The last one that I think I want to touch on,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: actually I got several more I want to touch on,
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: but the first one in that is the Jets are
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: missing number two, overall pick David Bailey, Ashton Jenty coming
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: off his two touchdown performance at $ 6, 700. Now granted, they
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: were both through the air, and he's been super dusty
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: on the ground. But some guy named Ollie Gordon III
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: just ran for about $ 1. 20 in a touchdown last week
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: against this Jets team, who are now missing Defensive Player
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: of the Year candidate David Bailey, as I alluded to.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Any interest in $ 6, 700 Ashton Genting?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I do have some interest.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I like the Jets a lot here,
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: and I think him and Bowers are the natural runbacks.
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: So at low ownership, I think he's in play just
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: because his upside is always elite and he's priced right
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: by those other guys. So yeah, in like one 50 settings,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: I want to be over the field on him. It's
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: hard to click him, which is why I like him.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Love Ashton Gentry today.
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: And another super, I think my last super gross pick Matt, um, uh,
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: this isn't it, but, um, a blickle leverage lane, Chris
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Rodriguez yesterday, get off that toot and chalk, which I
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: don't think toot is going to be chalky anymore, but, um, $ 5, 100
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: on DraftKings.
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: He's only $ 5, 800.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: On Fandle, but O'Marion Hampton. Once again, if you aren't
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: on Herbert, out of the buy, let's ground and pound
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: with our first-round pick from last year. I like some
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: O'Marion Hampton at $ 5, 100. I don't know. What about you?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Man, that is a– Yeah, I mean, if that to me.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: I'm not going to say he's not that because I
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: think he's got upside and maybe the Chargers surprising people,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: but it's tough to click that name given the other
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: running back options, given just his role and projection right now. Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: They don't seem to love him there.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I like 50. I mean, it's tough. 5,800 bucks because
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: you have Vidal there. You have Mitchell there as well,
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: but I don't hate it, especially in 150. I'll have
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: some over on FanDuel because he is only 5,800 bucks.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: Then Talk a little bit about Joel McCollum. I know
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: you did a little bit earlier, but like, like, where
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: do you think he comes in ownership wise? Now that
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: we talked about this, he has only 4,300 bucks. He's
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: basically wide receiver price at a, at a role that
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: they were giving him the ball in the first quarter
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: last week, Matt.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I think talent wise, he's clearly their top guy
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: right now. I mean, with Harvey out, I mean, Harvey
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: being out, it's just massive for him.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Um, They're at home.
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: I don't love the spot against the Chiefs, and I
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: don't really love offense in this game, but I just
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: think his role is going to be too big for
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: his price tag. I do think his ownership is certainly
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: lessened now with Braylon Allen becoming a priority all over
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: the board. And Coleman looks good, but he's not a must. So, yeah,
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: I like him quite a bit. He just helps roster construction.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: It is hard though. Like, cause now you're talking about
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: likely playing three running backs in a lot of lineups
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: and like, is he a better play than, I guess
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: the guy you got to instantly compare him to is
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Wondell Robinson, right?
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: At the, at basically the same price tag.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: I'll take Jonah Coleman over Wondell A.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I get that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: I think you could obviously play both. They're similar to me.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: I think Wanda, they are really similar.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. We didn't even talk about
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker. You know, had 38 against Denver in week one,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: James Cook, Jonathan Taylor, all those guys. Yeah. We're going
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: to move on to wide receiver unless you've got anything else.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: All right. Wide receiver. Always my favorite position to talk about, Matt.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: And if you really look between the five and the
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: six K range, it is dusty down there and we'll
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: get down there in a minute, but, How are you
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: handling these top-end receivers? Puka hasn't really– or didn't do
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: anything last week until– no, that was two weeks ago.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: He hadn't done anything in two weeks, and then he had,
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: I think, 21 targets the week before that. But how
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: are you handling these top-flight wide receivers, being in Puka, CD, Chase, Flowers,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: and Amon Ross-St. Brown?
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: They all look really good here.
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: I think Amon Ross is the easiest one to get
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: away from, just because of the matchup, et cetera, Minnesota's D.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: But between Chase, Lamb, Puka, and Flowers, like, Good luck
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: choosing between them.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Flowers is the cheapest.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: With Lamar for the first time in a full game
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: since week one.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Upside is sky high there.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: Lamb has been amazing, and he gets this matchup against
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Arizona with Dax. If you're playing Dax, it's pretty easy
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: to just want to choose Lamb. Similarly, if you're playing Burrow,
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: it's easy to click Chase. The guy I like most
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: as just a one-off is Puka. Cause I think he
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: gets the most targets and I feel best about his
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: floor ceiling combination, but they all look really good. I mean,
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: I feel like in any one lineup, you want as
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: many of those guys as you can get.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I agree with you. Puka is my favorite. If you're,
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: if we're just one-offing, I think Jamar Chase would be
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: number two. Did you mention Amon Ross St. Brown? Cause
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I don't, I mean, he's not going to get any ownership.
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: My least favorite of the bunch, even at ownership.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: So just tell the people, why is he your least favorite?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Just the matchup and how much I like the other guys.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: I guess to that point, he is going to be
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: the least owned. So we play an ownership game, and
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: maybe that in itself makes him go back to being
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: as good of a player as the other guys.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: But on paper, I like him significantly worse. Yeah.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: I think my least favorite of the bunch would be Zay.
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: He's been cutting up so much. I think him and C.D., Regress.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: I really like Amon Ross St. Brown today. 8,000 on DraftKings,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: only 8,500 on Fandle. We saw what he did last
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: week in the first half, Matt, and they just put
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: him on ice for whatever reason. So tough, tough blitz matchup.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Give me some Amon Ross. What about this second tier
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: of guys? Starting with Justin Jefferson, Drake. T is going
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: to be super popular. George Pickens is active today. And
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: then Parker Washington. Excuse me, talk to me a little
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: bit about that group.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I like that group a lot, but I feel like
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: the top group is so good that it's hard for
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: me to prioritize that. Parker Washington might be my favorite
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: if we're just talking about, like, one-offing guys.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: But, like, T.
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: Higgins has been phenomenal. I mean, Drake London. I like
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson a lot. I mean, in jet stacks, it's
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: going to be Garrett Wilson right there for me. This
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: kind of falls into what I said at the beginning
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: of the show. There are a lot of good plays
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: on this slate as a whole, as opposed to some
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: slates where we're, like, fighting for guys.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: This slate seems like a lot.
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: Of guys, not necessarily like cheap values, but fairly priced
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: in good spots. So choosing between them is difficult. Yeah,
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: it's difficult.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson in that dome against this Lions team, fire
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: him up at 7,100 bucks. And I purposely left Garrett
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Wilson because I wanted to talk a little bit about
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: him next. You seem to be super high on him.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I don't want to put words in your mouth, but
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: at 6,300 bucks, Garrett Wilson, to me, is probably one
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: of the best GPP plays today as it relates to
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: wide receiver. He's been ice cold over three out of
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the last four games. We get him at one of
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: his cheaper price tags all season long. Omar Cooper's been
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: the talk. Braylon Allen's going to get a lot of love. But, Matt,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: it's picture poison against this Raiders team. And if Geno
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: stacks go off, I think $ 6, 300 Garrett Wilson is in
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: a much better spot than his brother over there, Michael,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: how you rank Garrett versus Michael Wilson. Oh yeah.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: I like Garrett a lot more. I mean, not even
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: close for me. I like Gino a lot.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: I like Gino stacks more than Jacoby stacks. Michael Wilson
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: hasn't even been that great. I feel like since the
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: Harrison trade and.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: They're, yeah, they were like bracket him more McBride crush.
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: Like I like Michael Wilson, especially if you're playing that
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: game more than I am, but I like Garrett more.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, It does matter on the lineup though. Like
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: in a vacuum, I like Garrett Moore as a one-off
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: in jet stacks. I obviously like Garrett Wilson more, but
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: if I'm playing Jacoby and a lot of that game, then.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I could see like Michael Moore.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: Someone was in the chat talking about DJ Moore said
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: DJ Moore is about to go off against this Ravens team.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I talked earlier about how this, you know, I'll call
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: it 6k down to 5k range. There's not much that, that,
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: really pops off the page to me is there how
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: do you feel about this whole range and dj more specifically.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Don't love the range and dj it's more specifically it's
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: like hard to prioritize because i don't trust it i
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: mean i guess in the gpp sense i'm liking a
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: lot because he's got a high really high ceiling but
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: i think the floor is low he didn't even practice
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: fully coming out of the buy so i'm a little
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: bit torn on him how about.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: You yeah i um I'm not going to play. Like
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: you said, he didn't practice. I don't know if it
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: was all week or some of the week, like him
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: and Kincaid didn't. And that's concerning coming up, coming off
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: of a bye week. So I don't love anybody in
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: this range. I wrote up Josh Downs over at shipping nation.com.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: I think he's fine. Uh, he, he, he's the one
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: that requested a trade. So I get it. Like if
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: you're scared there, lab McConkie full practice all week. Uh,
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: what was it? Nate or not Nades, but, uh, Tambo
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: was talking about the dad narrative this morning. If you're
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: into the dad narrative, he's new father. So, um, Nobody
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: there but your boy Denzel Washington. Denzel Boston, 131 air
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: yards last week, Matt. Did not turn him into anything,
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: but give me some Denzel Boston today. Can I interest
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: you in some of that?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely.
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: I mean, he's been talking about him since camp, I
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: feel like, and I'm still buying what he's selling.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I'm in on Denzel Boston. I don't love
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the Browns today, but I hope I'm wrong. I mean,
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: I hope they roll.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, any other receivers down here? Jordan Addison, I'm going
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: to have some shares of Jordan Addison. I like him,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: once again, in that dome with Kyler. Cheap, cheap price tag,
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: and we've seen what he can do over the years.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: But anybody else that you want to touch on before
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: we get into the value guys?
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: Just the Tampa guys, man.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: And I guess that's kind of leading into the value.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: But Chris Godwin, I mean, super cheap. He could have
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: had a big game last week, had some stuff called back. So, yeah,
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: I'm in on Tampa today.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: How would you rank these Tampa receivers?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: Godwin one, Hurst two, Tez three. We saw Tez get
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: there last week, but I still like Hurst more. But
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: that said, like the difference is last week, Hurst was
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: highly owned and Tez wasn't owned. This week, neither of
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: them are going to be owned. So I'm going to
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: go back to Hurst, but Tez could still just be
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: the better play. So I understand playing him.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Moving over to the, you're like, you have a ton
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: of interest in Dak. What about, how would you rank,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: like not rank, but, I mean, are you getting to
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Flournoy or Pickens in any DAC stacks or what are
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: you thinking about with these Cowboys receivers?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I think you definitely can.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, Pickens being questionable all week.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Don't love that.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: That would have liked Flournoy a lot more had Pickens
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: been out, but Flournoy also would have been popular if
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Pickens were out and maybe he's not owned, you know,
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: he's not going to be owned nearly as much with
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: him in. So yeah, Flournoy is a guy I'm thinking about.
• 38:04
  Speaker 4: I don't love Pickens, you know, We're talking about massive
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: price and ownership differences, though. Certainly in a vacuum pickings,
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: it's likely to outscore Florida. I just think that Florida
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: has a legit ceiling and a cheaper price tag.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And no ownership.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mentioned earlier that I'm not 100% out on Flowers.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: I just think his price has gotten out of hand,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: which opens up the door for Jacoby Lane if you're
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: playing a Josh Allen. I think Jacoby Lane gets a
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: lot of love today at $ 3, 400. I'm just not seeing
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: it yet, but how are you on Jacoby Lane?
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: I like Lane here.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: I just don't think that Flowers' price tag is out
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: of hand at all. He hasn't even had Lamar for
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: a full game since week one. He's been doing this
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: with Huntley, and we just differ there. I don't even
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: think I'm as high on him as the field does.
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: I'm just not as low on him as you are.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: The last one that I want to touch on, he's
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: only $ 3, 000. He was $ 3, 000 last week when I mentioned him.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: He didn't do anything, but he did have seven targets.
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: It's Elick A.O. Manor. He is going to come with
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: some ownership this week, Matt. But the way I look
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: at Elick versus Wandale, A, you're saving $ 1, 200. Elick A.O.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Manor was out there last week with Carnell Tate. It's
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: not like Tate's out and all of a sudden A.O.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Manor is going to play. He had seven targets last week.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: So to me, A.O. Manor is the best $ 3, 000 receiver
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: on the board, hands down. He's the best receiver. Titans
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: wide receiver, in my opinion. But how do you rank A.O.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Manor versus Robinson or any of the other value wide receivers?
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: I think that he's pretty clearly the top 3K guy
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: on the board. I mean, flat 3K, like guy that's already,
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, he was their number three. Now he's their
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: number two. And he's a guy that was a monster
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: in college at Stanford. I mean, big play guy.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: But he's not getting owned, though.
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: He won't get owned as much as Wandale. I mean,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: he'll still be owned, though. I mean, he's like, yeah,
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I'm showing 12%.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you have higher or lower than that. But, yeah, Wandale.
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: No, I think that's probably about right, 10% to 15%.
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: Wandale at 18% versus EO Manor. I mean, if you're
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: building borough stacks, I think you have to have EO
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: Manor or Dixie.
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: That's the other thing about it. I think they're all
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: in play, though. Your point about A.O. Manor also holds
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: true for Robinson, who has been a target monster in
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: his days, too. And you're likely to get a game
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: script where they're going to be throwing a ton. So
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: not only do you got these two guys, but kind
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: of a perfect segue into tight end, because I think
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Gunnar Helm is a guy we can look at when
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: we start talking about cheap tight ends. I mean, you're
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: just talking about a game script where these guys are
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: uber cheap and they're going to be throwing.
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: And Cam Ward stinks.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Hold on one second, one second.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Before I let you go, if I'm $ 2, 500 gunner helm,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I would be remiss if I didn't get your take
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: on these Browns wide receivers. You nailed Casey Concepcion Jr.
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: last week. Absolutely cutting up. Are you going back to
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the well? I know you remember this real quick. I
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: know you remember this game super well. It was a
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Thursday night, three, four weeks ago. You weren't feeling the best.
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: Denzel Boston was like four for 80. Concepcion was making
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: some good plays. How are you slotting in these– uh,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: Browns receivers in the rematch of the Thursday night game
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: from a month ago.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I really don't like this game for offense.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, these teams just played the first half of
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: that game was electric with a ton of points, different
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: environment here. The Browns haven't won in Pittsburgh in like
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: 25 years and they haven't swept the Steelers since night.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: So talking about a long time here. And I just
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: think that the Browns are going to struggle to move
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: the ball today.
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: Um, Watson has been– go ahead.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: No, no, you first.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: Watson's been amazing in the fourth quarter, but quite frankly
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: he hasn't been great up to that point until last game.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: So I'm going to ride with four, but I just
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: don't love the Browns' weapons today.
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fair. I was going to say the one
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: asterisk there, because I know it doesn't count in the streak,
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: but your boy went into Heinz Field and just did
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: them dirty in the playoffs and Baker Mayfield and like
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: the seven Pittsburgh turnovers.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Y'all did beat them in the playoffs.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: We did monster game.
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: We rolled them that year. Good call.
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: All right. Let's move on to tight end where Nades
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: is now chiming in. You've already let the cat out
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: of the bag with gunner helm of all people. All right.
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess, I guess you're saying he's 2,500 bucks.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: He's going to run 75% of the routes, but talk
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: to me about gunner helm.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's all it is, man.
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: Like, He was a good pass catcher in college. He's
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: going to be on the field a ton.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: No Cardinal Tate. No Cardinal Tate.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: They're likely to be throwing a lot, and he's going
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: to get forgotten about with people playing the receivers, and
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: he's dirt cheap on a slate where I don't love
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: tight end. Like, you always, McBride and Bowers always, and
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: I like Otten a lot, who I've talked about, but
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: he's 2.5K, and.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I think he does get a big bump with no
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Cardinal Tate.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I do too. I was giving you crap,
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: but yeah, 2.5. He's got to get what? Eight to 10,
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: six to 10, six to eight, something like that. And you're,
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: I think you're, you're, you're fine. Yeah.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I think you, I mean, it's all dependent on what
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: the other guys do.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's obviously it's all depending on, but if, if,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: if you turn, if you turn the slate on right
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: now and gun or hell, like what percentage do you
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: think is going to be owned? And then how many points,
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: does he have to get for you to feel comfortable? Obviously,
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: there's eight other spots and 10 other games, but how
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: many do you want from him?
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I think he's 6% owned.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: And if I'm playing him, and I'm talking about in
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: the $ 20 Millie maker, honestly.
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: Right, for sure. I want 12 plus. Want 12 plus, okay.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would lock him if you told me he
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: was giving me 15.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: Oh gosh.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: I mean, but you're still like fighting like McBride and Bowers,
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: you know?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: No, I get, yeah, you're true.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: And it all, like you said, it's all dependent upon
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: the others. We'll do it like we do each and
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: every Sunday. I feel like Bowers versus McBride, who you
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: got today.
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: I like powers more and it's a big ownership. It's
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: a big ownership, but I like the jets a lot.
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: I think the Raiders are going to have to be
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: throwing and McBride's going to be a lot higher owned
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: because McBride is clear run back with Dallas.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: And if, 100%. It's just an ownership thing. I mean.
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: Ownership thing. And some guy, your boy with super nice hair,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Greg Dolchitz, just went for like six for 85 versus
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: this Jets team. This Jets defense is putrid, and their
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: head coach is probably worse than their defense. So, yeah,
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: give me Bowers over McBride this week. And then any
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: other tight ends that you want to touch on. Tight
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: end is gross this week, Matt. Like it is tough
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: sledding out there. I got a couple, but talk to
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: me some about these tight ends that you like.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Outside of Kate Otten, who is my favorite, because I
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: love going back to Tampa.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Here, and I like Tampa in this spot.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: He was your favorite last week, by the way, too.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I know. Maybe I'm stubborn. You know what I mean?
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I am stubborn.
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know maybe about it, but I think I'm
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: being smartly stubborn here. Just the game theory aspect of it.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: Maybe you'll talk me off it a little bit. No,
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I'm talking you on it. I like Otten this week, too.
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I got two other guys. Okay.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: The obvious is Hunter Henry, who's going to be popular,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: but for good reason, just because New England's pass catching
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: options are dwindling by the minute, it feels like.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: And he's solid, if not spectacular. So good price tag there.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: The other guy I like, I feel like we haven't
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: even talked about at all because we missed a little
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: bit of time, but he's been decent.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: And I like the.
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: Jets as Mason Taylor, 3,300, falling through the cracks. Again,
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: just in Geno stacks, but why not would be my question.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what happened to Kenyon Sadiq? What happened to Kenyon Sadiq?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: His name is Mason Taylor, happened to Kenyon Sadiq. And
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: he got a concussion too. But, yeah, I get it, man.
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: It was against his dad's team last week. He was
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: just out there just cutting up for sure. I don't
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: hate that call. Philly Phantom put it in there. Brenton Strange,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I love Brenton Strange today. He's in my core over
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: at ShippenNation.com.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: I got to ask you, because we didn't bring him
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: up at receiver, and because I just talked about Mason Taylor,
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: I got to ask your opinion of someone also on
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: the Jets that we didn't talk about.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: That's looked really good. Omar Cooper.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I'm stubborn, too.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: And I haven't played him a single time. I'm not
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: going there now where his price has skyrocketed. He's obviously
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: a very good receiver. Back-to-back weeks, he's been the dude.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: But I'm out of here.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: The reason I don't mind going to him, though, even
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: though I haven't been on him either, is because he's
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: still not going to be owned. So I'm not, like,
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: following the field. I can't see him being owned. Am
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: I wrong there?
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I'm just, I'm just, he's going to be like,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: he's going to be like one to 5% owned somewhere
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: in there.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: No, I mean, listen, and the other thing too, is like,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and you know, right, wrong or different.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: The way I look at it is like, he was
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: so cheap. Like his price had to come up. Right.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: It's still not like outrageous.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: So that's the other side of what you said. Like
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: if you were still 3k, he would be owned.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: But now because he's 5k, he won't be owned, which
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: it's almost like MLB. Like, If he does what he's
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: been doing, I don't care that.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: His price increased to over 5K.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Geno– I'm going Geno doubles because Geno's not running.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm going Wilson. Are you going Taylor or Cooper?
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you may have multiple teams.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: All of it.
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: All both.
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: If I'm making one team, man, that's really– honestly, I
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: think if I were making one team, it might be Geno,
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson, Braylon Allen.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because I like them to score, and I mean–
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Not even that Braylon's that efficient in the passing game,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: but I like the Jets today. And that's kind of
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: a different way I like to get different in building stacks.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah. No, that's good.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: Just some other names to throw out there that are
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: on my radar. TJ Hockinson I talked about. He's only $ 4, 600
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: if you're playing. Kyler Stacks, he scored last week. Should
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: have scored three weeks ago. Kyle Pitts Sr., Matt, he
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: scored three touchdowns in the last two weeks.
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: So don't hate him. He's definitely in my pool.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: And then the other one who skyrockets up my board
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: if we won't get the news, but Tyler Higby. What's
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: his face? Colby Parkinson hasn't practiced all week, and you
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: would have thought he'd gotten shot last week in the
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Raiders game. He kept on coming out and going back in.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: Throw the ball to Tyler Higby last week is what
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I needed. They didn't, but I like Tyler Higby at 3,800 bucks.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: Should Parkinson miss? Eli Raridon, he'll be, I don't even know, half,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: probably a quarter of the ownership of Hunter Henry.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: But any other tight ends that we didn't touch on? No,
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: he balled the other night, too. Yeah, he's a good
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: ball player.
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: I get the Hawkinson love because Detroit's awful against tight ends, too.
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: But I think that might change with Branch back, though.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is true. Very true.
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: Not even that, like, again, I still don't think, like,
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: he's only one guy, so it's not like their defense
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: is going to be good.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're, like.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: All-time bad anymore, that, like, you just want to pick on.
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very solid, very solid point.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: And Branch only played, I didn't look at the snaps,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: half the snaps last week, and now hopefully he's probably playing,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: 65-75% of the snaps.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: He still had the biggest play of the game. Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: Didn't talk about Harold Fanon. I don't like Fanon. I
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: don't like any of the Steelers. The Steelers guys, but yeah.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Bowers over McBride for me.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: We agree on that. Who's your favorite non? I guess
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: it's Otten.
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: He's your favorite non-spin-up. Or Helm.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's still Noah Bucca. And again, like Tampa's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: was in.
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: A weird spot last week.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: It happened to really play out to your benefit.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: And that's a big reason why it's because Bucky was
• 49:48
  Speaker 4: so good, but just mostly, most of the time, not
• 49:51
  Speaker 4: going to play out like that.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: And Otten did have a red zone target in the
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: end zone as well. Just, just didn't come down with it.
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I like, I like your Otten call. All right, Matt,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: moving over to the defense and boy, I got some
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: spicy takes today, but I'll let you go first. Defense.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: One of my, one of my favorite things to talk
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: about with you on this show, but, How are you
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: handling this defense? We know the ownership is going to come.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: We know the ownership is going to come with the Broncos.
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: They are only 2,200 bucks. Hey, but you said it
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: to me and it stuck with me, Matt. Maybe you've
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: changed your mind. But I said I'm playing the Raiders
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: defense three weeks ago, four weeks ago against the Chiefs.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: You're like, why would you pick a defense versus Patrick Mahomes?
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: So that stuck in my mind. But how are you
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: handling this Broncos? I'll call it chalk defense and this
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: Steelers defense.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I struggle with that one. I'm struggling with Denver
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: here because I agree with that. And I don't want
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: to use the defense against Patrick Mahomes. And I don't
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: think Denver has like a massive upside here. But I
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: also think they're way.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: Too cheap at home. They are.
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: Against the Chiefs offense that did not look good last week.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: That said, I'm more with you than against you, man. Like,
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I'd rather get away from them. I think they have
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: a really solid floor. And I don't think they get
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: shelled here because I don't think the Chiefs offense is
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: in amazing form. And I think Denver is always good
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: at home. But Mahomes is not a guy that's like
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: throwing pick sixes hardly ever. They're usually very fundamentally sound.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: He doesn't take a lot of sacks.
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: Anything can happen, but I'd rather go with anything can
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: happen to a lower-owned D. So, yeah, I mean, on paper,
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: Denver looks really good. But I'm more apt to get
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: away from them. I'm interested to hear your takes. Man,
• 51:27
  Speaker 4: I hate this, but Pittsburgh's D looks good to me.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, at home against a quarterback that hasn't been
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: good until the fourth quarter that they just saw.
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm interested.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: My favorite D on the slate though. And then I'll
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: let you go is Jacksonville. They're Uber expensive, but give
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: me any defense against the Colts right now. I think
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: they got big time upside, even though I mentioned it's
• 51:48
  Speaker 4: the NFL, the Colts could be more, it's more, much
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: more competitive than the field's giving them credit for majority
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: of the time.
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: This game is played out. Jacksonville rolls.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Uh, I love that call.
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: Um, And the reason is, as I talked about it,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: their defensive line is very good. I don't know, top five,
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: top ten. And they just traded Quentin Nelson, who's been
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: their linchpin for like eight years. And Josh Downs is
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: requesting trades. Like, I think that could get very ugly
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: in Jacksonville today. So, I love your Jacksonville call. Matt,
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: my favorite defense on the entire tire slate, and this
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: goes into, you know, learning from Tambo and you and
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: others of, like, slicing and dicing the ownership. Give me
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: those Cowboys, man, 3,200 bucks. They're at home. The Cardinals
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: are with a beat up offensive line. And they, it's
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: kind of like when I talked about the 49ers against
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks, I think three weeks ago when they led
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: the slate, like the Cowboys are getting some dudes back
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: today off the injured list, PJ locks back at safety.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: So their defense is like very, very bad, but they're getting,
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I think three guys back today, three starters back today.
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: I believe they're at home. Um, Jacoby's going to be popular.
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: Wilson's going to be popular. McBride's going to be popular.
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: They're going to throw it 40 times. I think Quinn
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: and Williams to Mario overshown those dudes right there. I mean,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: give me the $ 3, 200 Dallas Cowboys. My favorite defense on
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: today's slate.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I'm in. Sold.
• 53:15
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: Well, that's right.
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm super low on the Cardinals today. I think
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: it's a bloodbath. I think it's grounded pounds. Javante and
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: the Cowboys. I think they roll. Sold.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Sold.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: All right, there we go. All right, well, that'll do
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: it for us. Matt, we can't get out of here.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: I forget what we do, but give me your play
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: of the day. Give me your play of the day
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: and stack of the day.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: All right, my play of the day is going to
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: be Garrett Wilson. And my stack of the day is
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: going to be Tampa. So clearly, those are the two
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: teams I like a lot in tournaments.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Love it.
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: My play of the day, man, I love him. I
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: could come back to bite me, but I'm going to
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: go with the big dog.
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: We're going to let the big dog eat today.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: I think like 150 and two is in play for
• 54:02
  Speaker 3: the big dog. I think he's the leading running back
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: on the slate. I think Lamar is going to open
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: up those running lanes and I think it's going to
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: be a high scoring affair. So I'm going to go
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: big dog as my favorite play of the entire day.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Then I'm going to go with those Joe Burrow stacks.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: I love Burrow.
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: I love Chase.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase, that is. I also love Chase.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: Brown, but give me some Joe Burrow And then I
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: thought you were going to– I forgot Baker, but I
• 54:25
  Speaker 3: thought you were going to say Geno. You said Garrett Wilson,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: so I'm going to have me some Geno stacks as well.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: I love that call out of you.
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hope we have a fun day rooting on
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Geno and the Jets. Said no one ever.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: Geno and the Jets. We'll be in the Discord all day.
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: Then my guy Nades and I will be back at
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: 6 p.m. Eastern Standard Time to sweat it out with
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: you guys and talk about the amazing Sunday night game
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: that we're going to have. Eagles– versus the Commanders. Can't
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: wait for that rivalry to continue. For my guy, Bellman,
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: it's ham. Good luck tonight in those contests. Hope to
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: see those Shippin' Nation logos up top.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: Just Shippin'!