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Hour 2 - Golden Domer Goodbye · The Ben Maller Show

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Speaker 1: How do you do? It's our name Bird two and
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Speaker 1: the Ben Mallery Show.
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Speaker 2: It's a walk down memory lane as we say goodbye
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Speaker 2: to one of the legends of sports, the last couple
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Speaker 2: of generations. How are you gonna remember the life of
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Speaker 2: former Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz, the Golden Domer, who
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Speaker 2: has passed away at the age of eighty nine. Also,
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Speaker 2: what's the one thing that Lou Holtz did that stamps
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Speaker 2: his legacy in college football? There's one thing in particular
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Speaker 2: that he was just light years ahead of. We'll talk
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Speaker 2: about that. And in addition to the life and times
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Speaker 2: of Lou Holtz. As we say goodbye to Lou, how
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Speaker 2: about the politicians in Mississippi. They want to give nil
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Speaker 2: tax breaks to college athletes. How does this strike you? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: all right, we'll get to that as well. All of
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Speaker 2: and we'll get to that.
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Speaker 1: Here it is right now, a Golden Domer.
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Speaker 2: this hour is from college football. Was a story reported
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Speaker 2: a couple weeks back that claimed that this day was
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Speaker 2: already happening. It didn't happen at that day, but it's
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Speaker 2: now happened. What are you talking about? A legend, an
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Speaker 2: absolute legend in the last couple of generations in college
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Speaker 2: football has crossed the pearly gates. Here.
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Speaker 1: We assume you've heard by now. News came out hours ago.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps not though Lou Holtz. Lou Holtz, the.
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Speaker 2: Silvertungue college football coach most associated with Notre Dame, although
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Speaker 2: he coached all over the place, led the Fighting Irish
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Speaker 2: to a national championship way back in nineteen eighty eight
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Speaker 2: and built up this amazing reputation as a master of
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Speaker 2: rebuilding college football programs before players could legally be paid.
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Speaker 2: And he has died at the age of eighty nine.
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Speaker 2: He had been in some poor health. There there were
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Speaker 2: reports he was in hospice care. He died in Orlando.
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Speaker 2: So the life of Lou Holtz, that is a good
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Speaker 2: jump point. Let us discuss. So the question how are
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Speaker 2: you gonna remember? How are you gonna remember Notre Dame
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Speaker 2: coach Lou Holtz as he checks out of this mortal coil.
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Speaker 2: So I've got Doctor Seuss, Red Lobster, and Cypress Hill,
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Speaker 2: and we're gonna provide you some alphabet soup. ABC is
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Speaker 2: what we're going to do. That's where we start with ABC. So,
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Speaker 2: but we'll actually start with number one.
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Speaker 1: Yes, in a.
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Speaker 2: Generation, the golden generation of coaches, which Lou Holtz was
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Speaker 2: a part of, bigger than life, personalities across all sports,
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Speaker 2: across all sports, and you had Lou Holtz there who
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Speaker 2: felt larger in life.
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Speaker 1: You think of the guys that were around his age,
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Speaker 1: in his.
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Speaker 2: Generation, You've got people like Tommy Lasorda, Mike Dicka, Bobby Knight.
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Speaker 1: These are humo his personalities. You don't have that now.
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Speaker 2: Most coaches are so barring these days, they're very borring.
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Speaker 1: But not in those days. That was a mom and pop.
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Speaker 2: He had bigger than life people like Lou Holtz, and
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Speaker 2: lou Holtz didn't just stand out. He took the stage,
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Speaker 2: he performed a card trick with his right hand with
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Speaker 2: his left hand, he made balloon pets for the kids.
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Speaker 2: And he always demanded excellence. So I always demanded accellent
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Speaker 2: was all coaches do. But physically he was a pint
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Speaker 2: sized figure, but he had that cape on the sidelines.
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Speaker 2: He was like a superhero on the sidelines, and he
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Speaker 2: was a giant growing up years ago, and he did
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Speaker 2: follow It would appear the Doctor Seus's playbook. He said
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Speaker 2: what he felt and he did what he said. And
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Speaker 2: it wasn't always popular, like Lou Holtz now he's passed away,
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Speaker 2: his tributes coming in all stuff. But it wasn't double
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Speaker 2: led story. It was equal parts lovable, unlikable to some.
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Speaker 2: And so you had that and then also just utterly original,
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Speaker 2: which I always appreciated it. And he did wake up
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Speaker 2: the echoes of Notre Dame winning it all back in
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Speaker 2: the eighties. But his true legacy is what used to
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Speaker 2: be called an encyclopedia, I guess, and now it's called
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Speaker 2: Wikipedia or Gronkipedia or whatever, the encyclopedia of tough love
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Speaker 2: and witty quotes that he left for us mere mortals
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Speaker 2: here and his approach because of that, you know, Lou,
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Speaker 2: you know, there were some people that were not you know,
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Speaker 2: not big fans, as we pointed out, but in his era,
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Speaker 2: he was part of that time where that's how you
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Speaker 2: acted in this era. You get clout, you get points
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Speaker 2: for being a victim. Playing the victim, you get social
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Speaker 2: media credit. And people love to be the victim. They
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Speaker 2: love to have problems. When Lou Holtz was doing his thing,
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Speaker 2: you were looked down upon when you celebrated all your issues.
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Speaker 2: And he said about Holtz, it was a relic of
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Speaker 2: a different ear.
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Speaker 1: It was a grittier time. It was a grittier time.
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Speaker 1: And he preached self reliance to his players, and he
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Speaker 1: famously won my all time favorite quotes. And there were
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Speaker 1: a couple of them.
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a few of them for Lou Holtz,
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Speaker 2: but one of them was, never tell your problems to
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Speaker 2: anyone because you're the team you're playing and I can
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Speaker 2: offer you sympathy. And he lived by the math that
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Speaker 2: life is ten percent what happens and then ninety percent how.
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Speaker 1: You respond to it.
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Speaker 2: And the mother of all quotes for Lou Holtz, and
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Speaker 2: there's some debate about this, but for me, the mother
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Speaker 2: of all quotes.
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Speaker 1: Especially the times that we live in now, there.
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Speaker 2: Would be players that would bitch and complain that the practice.
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Speaker 1: Was too hard, it was too physical. At Notre Dame, right,
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Speaker 1: they'd bitch about it.
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Speaker 2: So Lou Holtz one day said that no one has
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Speaker 2: ever drowned in sweat, which is.
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Speaker 1: The ultimate comeback. Right, just shut up, you know you
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Speaker 1: can be okay. Everything will be okay.
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Speaker 2: And I did have the good fortune of meeting Lou
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Speaker 2: Holtz years ago. He was doing some speaking and this
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Speaker 2: goes back almost thirty years.
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Speaker 1: It was doing some local radio.
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Speaker 2: At the time, and he was speaking at a promotion
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Speaker 2: that we did, the Winning Way promotion, and we had
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Speaker 2: like Muhammad Ali was there, Lou Holtz, Terry bradch All,
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Speaker 2: theyse random people were thrown together, and Holtz followed another
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Speaker 2: doctor SEUs belief that you need to be yourself because
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Speaker 2: everyone else is taken and there will never be another
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Speaker 2: one like him because of the way the world was
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Speaker 2: then as it is now and just everything is so
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Speaker 2: upside down now.
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Speaker 1: Page two.
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Speaker 2: Here, continuing as we celebrate the memory of Lou Holtz,
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Speaker 2: we drive down memory lane. So what is the one
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Speaker 2: thing that Lou Holtz did in all these years coaching,
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Speaker 2: the one thing that stamped his legacy in.
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Speaker 1: Football and college football coaching in particular. So a big
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Speaker 1: part and I still remember this when I was a
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Speaker 1: little kid, But a big part of Lou Holt's legacy.
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Speaker 1: The thing that.
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Speaker 2: Will be etched, it should be etched on his tombstone
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Speaker 2: right next to a picture of a magic trick is.
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Speaker 1: Poor mouth p oo R m o U t H.
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Speaker 1: The man did not just coach football.
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Speaker 2: He buttered the opponent's cheddar Bay biscuits with a level
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Speaker 2: of frantic precision that would make a line cook weep.
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Speaker 2: If Lou Holtz had spent as much time focused on
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Speaker 2: the kitchen as he did on the sideline, Like if
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Speaker 2: you worked at Red Lobster would be a global superpower
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Speaker 2: right now, you'd be like, what's what's going on in
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Speaker 2: the gold era of the Golden Domers which wasn't actually
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Speaker 2: Lou Holtz's ear, it was before that. But when Lou
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Speaker 2: was at Notre Dame, Lou Holtz would look at the
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Speaker 2: schedule and Notre Dame's always had some really lightweight opponents
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Speaker 2: mixed in, and they're an independent, and they've always been
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Speaker 2: an independent my entire life. And so Notre Dame would
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Speaker 2: play the service academies right to play Air Force or Navy.
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Speaker 2: They played Rice, which is terrible SMU when they were horrific,
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Speaker 2: and Lou would get on the dais and make you
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Speaker 2: believe that this team that could be one in six
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Speaker 2: was like the football version in college of the nineteen
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Speaker 2: twenty seven Yankees, and he turned what had been a
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Speaker 2: casual hobby called poormouthing.
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Speaker 1: It was at the time Lou started doing that.
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Speaker 2: It was like a clunky rotary phone, and he turned
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Speaker 2: that clunky rotary phone into a sleek iPhone Promax is
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Speaker 2: what he did. It became known as his thing, Lou
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Speaker 2: Holt syndrome. Anytime a coach goes over the top with
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Speaker 2: faint praise for an opponent that clearly blows, that's.
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Speaker 1: Lou Holt syndrome.
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Speaker 2: He would heap such contrived, effusive and insincere praise on teams.
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame would be a three or four touchdown favorite,
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Speaker 2: and he'd be celebrating the underdog, and you'd swear that
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Speaker 2: the Fighting Irish were about to face both the Justice
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Speaker 2: League and the Avengers at the same time, and he'd
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Speaker 2: hug them so hard they'd suffocate, like killing them with kindness.
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Speaker 2: Every Monday, Notre Dame that have a news conference. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: it would be broadcast on television.
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Speaker 1: There was no.
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Speaker 2: Internet in those days, and he'd get up there and
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Speaker 2: he'd just go on and on about how great the
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Speaker 2: code coach is, the school is, how tough it is.
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame's got no chance, you know, he say, ah man,
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Speaker 1: let me tell.
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Speaker 2: You something that that Navy quarterback that is the next,
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Speaker 2: that's the next Joe Montana, right, the ext whatever.
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Speaker 1: And it was performance hard.
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Speaker 2: So rest in peace to to Lou Holtz. A life
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Speaker 2: well lived for Lou Holtz there as he leaves us behind.
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Speaker 2: All right, So final point here, I want to turn
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Speaker 2: the page to the Magnolia State. And this has been
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Speaker 2: bouncing around the echo chamber of the last couple of
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Speaker 2: a couple of days.
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Speaker 1: I wanted to address it.
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Speaker 2: So there's a proposed law that if it does happen,
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Speaker 2: it is as understated, it has not happened, and it
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Speaker 2: would exempt college athletes in that state from having to
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Speaker 2: pay state income tax on nil earnings. And this would
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Speaker 2: significantly impact their take home pay. Meaning if you're going
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Speaker 2: to a play at USC or cal or any of
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Speaker 2: the California schools, the People's Republic of California, they'll take
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Speaker 2: a big chunk of your money.
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Speaker 1: And they want more, more and more, more and more,
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Speaker 1: more and more and more.
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Speaker 2: And in Mississippi, they're like, now, we're good, we were
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Speaker 2: We're good.
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Speaker 1: We don't we don't want to tax you at all.
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Speaker 2: And so this would be an unleveled playing field in
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Speaker 2: college football recruiting. So the question, Mississippi politicians planning to
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Speaker 2: give tax breaks, nil tax breaks to college athletes, how.
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Speaker 1: Does that strike you?
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Speaker 2: So this thing has gone from hey, let's pay the players,
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Speaker 2: which by the way, I supported, two let's give the
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Speaker 2: players extra coupons.
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Speaker 1: Wait, wait, so so I supported paying the players. I
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Speaker 1: think that.
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Speaker 2: You should have a setup where you pay the players.
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Speaker 2: But this is Wowie Kauzawi. This is a carnival ride.
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Speaker 2: And I don't know that I want to be on
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Speaker 2: that roller coast. I don't know that I want to
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Speaker 2: be on that roller coach. I'm not like I like
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Speaker 2: paying taxes. Don't get me wrong. I hate paying taxes,
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Speaker 2: but I pay taxes. They pay a lot of taxes,
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Speaker 2: a lot more than you do, probably if you don't
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Speaker 2: live in California. But it's an absolute race to the bottom.
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Speaker 2: And here we are college football. Everyone's slapping stickers on players,
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Speaker 2: trying to lure them here, there, and everywhere. Come on
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Speaker 2: down now in this upside down world, You've got nineteen
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Speaker 2: twenty year old college football players who are making you know,
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Speaker 2: two D three hundred thousand, four hundred thousand and five
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Speaker 2: hundred thousand more than that sometimes and some of these
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Speaker 2: guys will be at Old miss not many at Mississippi State,
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Speaker 2: and they're gonna get a holiday, a tax holiday. And
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Speaker 2: that the guy in Mississippi, the forty year old guy
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Speaker 2: who's got three kids, a wife that hates him, that
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Speaker 2: works at the Pigley Wiggley, that person does not get
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Speaker 2: a tax break.
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Speaker 1: That's the system. You know what this is?
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Speaker 2: This is It's Cypress Hill, insane in the membrane is
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Speaker 2: what that is.
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Speaker 1: It bonkers. It's absolutely bonkers, is what it is.
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Speaker 2: Now Mississippi politicians are basically running a Black Friday promotion
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Speaker 2: for linebackers.
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Speaker 1: It's a doorbuster, free.
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Speaker 2: Taxes if you run, if you're four point three or
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Speaker 2: four point four, not student, if that is your forty time,
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Speaker 2: come on down now, price is right, come on down
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Speaker 2: and all of that to get an edge over Ohio State,
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Speaker 2: Notre Dame, Alabama and whoever else the powers of the
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Speaker 2: day are.
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Speaker 1: Don't include Indiana in that.
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Speaker 3: Now.
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, the normal SCHMO is standing online at the Department
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Speaker 2: of Motor Vehicles of Life, paying every effing penny, every penny.
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Speaker 1: And college football for the last couple of years has
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Speaker 1: been very open. It's semi professional football. It's you know
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Speaker 1: how you have like Coca Cola and Diet Coke.
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Speaker 2: It's the NFL light It's it's diet NFL with student
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Speaker 2: ID cards and this coupon booked from the lawmakers in Mississippi.
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Speaker 2: It's just it's just wild, man, it is absolutely wild.
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Speaker 2: And you and I both know Mississippi does this, and
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Speaker 2: it's just a little more important college football in the South.
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Speaker 2: So you're gonna have Alabama and Georgia and Florida and
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Speaker 2: all these other southern states, Louisiana, they're gonna do it too,
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Speaker 2: because if Mississippi's got an advantage, these other guys are
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Speaker 2: gonna say, we gotta have that same same advantage.
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Speaker 1: And then so places where they're never going to get
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Speaker 1: that advantage.
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Speaker 2: Like I'm sure there's politicians in California like, let's tax
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Speaker 2: these guys more. Let's let's really bend them over, let's
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Speaker 2: really tax these guys. Uh.
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Speaker 1: So that's that's where we are, and isn't the big
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Speaker 2: President Trump's getting Nick Saban, Tiger Woods d Chambeau.
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Speaker 1: Is that today? I think that might be today. I
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Speaker 1: think that's later today.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a get together and they're gonna solve
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31:42
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