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They're Hiding Ancient Giants From You | Nephilim, UFOs & the Coming Deception w/ L.A. Marzulli · Man in America Podcast

• 0:13
  Speaker 1: There are skulls sitting in museums in Peru right now with DNA results that mainstream science still can't explain. Scientists have tested them, the results came back, and the mainstream academic world has gone completely silent about it. A lot of people spend their whole lives thinking that the Nephilim, the Giants in the Bible were just some story, a myth, ancient poetry. At least, that's what my guest has spent thirty years trying to prove otherwise. My guest today is Eli Mazzulli.
• 0:41
  When everyone else is just ignoring this stuff, he was already out there connecting the dots. He's an author, a filmmaker, and a researcher. He went to Peru. He legally got samples from these ancient elongated skulls they found there. He actually funded DNA testing on them, and he says the results didn't match what the textbooks predict, not even close.
• 1:00
  And so while the Pentagon was still calling these things unidentified, he was already saying that these aren't extraterrestrials, These are interdimensional beings. According to him, they're fallen angels. And the Bible, he says, already told us they're coming back. So he's written 14 books. He's produced 34 documentary films.
• 1:16
  He's won awards for them. This isn't a guy who just reads things online, this is someone who's actually done the work. So in this interview, you're gonna find out what those Peruvian skull DNA results really showed, why nobody in mainstream science wants to touch it, and you're gonna learn how that connects directly to Genesis six what's happening in our skies right now. And here's the big one. He calls it the great deception.
• 1:39
  And once you understand what he means by that, you're not gonna be able to look at the news the same way again. I mean, this is one of those conversations where the ancient world, the Bible, and today's news headlines all just kinda click together. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. Welcome to Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse.
• 2:01
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• 2:47
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• 2:59
  LA Marzulli, it is a pleasure to have you on the show. And I have to say, I'm I'm really excited to have this discussion. I think we're gonna go to some really fun places. So, yeah, thanks for giving us your time today.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, great to be here. Thanks for having me on.
• 3:12
  Speaker 1: So for those that are not familiar with you or your books or documentaries, what how would you introduce yourself? I I could try to introduce you, I think you're gonna do it better than me. How would you give a little bit of your background and and kinda brings you up to where we are today?
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: Eli is an author, filmmaker, 16 books, 34 films. He's a frank supernaturalist that believes in the supernatural world, specifically in ancient prophetic texts, which we believe, I believe, are unraveling even as we speak. So we are in unprecedented uncharted waters. But a lot of this was prophesied thousands of years ago, and now it's coming to pass.
• 3:53
  Speaker 1: And so there is, yeah, then there's a lot to lot to get into. I think one kind of simple way I look at things is that I I I think that we're living in the days of Noah. I think that that's you look around, and, you know, I was born in '86. And, you know, I remember growing up in the eighties and then the nineties more specifically, even from, say, the nineties to now here we are in 2026, I feel like the world has changed so rapidly and not for the better. There's some things that have improved, but I think what we're seeing is is an acceleration of the evil, the but also the ability for the evil just to show itself and put itself on display and kinda say, hey.
• 4:41
  Here I am. What are you gonna do about it? Right? But we're also seeing acceleration of more disclosure of a lot of information. And so, I guess, yeah, how how do you how do you frame?
• 4:49
  Like, how do you view where we're currently at right now in this this cycle of history?
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I think we're in unprecedented uncharted waters. I believe that history is not cyclical like Toynbee writes, where it's once nation, you know, they rise, they fall. They rise, they fall endlessly. I history is climactic, and I based it on the biblical prophetic narrative. So we're we're headed towards uncharted, unprecedented times, and it's already happening.
• 5:16
  Whole UFO thing is is being rolled out. The great film by Dan Farah, day of disclosure, was he's got a series of people. It's very filmic the way he he introduces it. So he's got congressmen, congresswomen, senators Marco Rubio, physicists, scientists, one star admiral generals. They're all coming on the record and very like, the camera shows them, and they all say the same thing.
• 5:44
  We are not alone in the universe. We are not alone in the universe. We are not alone in the universe. Person to person to person. So after ten or 12 of those, it's obviously what the film is about, that these people are gonna come on the record and say we're not alone in the universe.
• 5:57
  And I get that. We're not alone, but where are these entities from? What's their message? Why haven't they revealed themselves? That's the question that no one asks.
• 6:06
  No one asks that. Okay. So we know that the phenomenon is real, but where are they from? What are they really? And why not give us the cure to cancer?
• 6:14
  If they're so benevolent like Doctor. Stephen Greer says, why the cure to cancer? Why the cat and mouse game? Why do we see them? They show up, they go away.
• 6:23
  Why take a five year old boy or a six year old girl plant them and then do other things like Spielberg's film where and I'm just spoiler alert, but it's in all three trailers. And I called it right from the get go. That's not a stag. That's the entities presenting itself.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: This is a And so so I guess we should give a quick warning is that there if if you're still waiting to go see the film, there's gonna be spoilers in this discussion. So, I guess, we'll just kinda put that out there so now no one can complain and say, oh, you ruined the movie for me. Because I went and saw it also. I went and saw it last weekend. I was I just wanted to see what the messaging was.
• 7:04
  I knew, you know, you you, I'm sure you by far, you absolutely know this is that when you see these big Hollywood productions, they're oftentimes, they're in sync with a lot of other things happening in society, and and they're part of these bigger coordinated plans and agendas. And so I went and saw it thinking, I wanna figure out what's going on here. And I I have a lot of thoughts about the movie, but I'm not gonna get into that right now. But, yeah, you could see though that it was you know, you mentioned the young children as well, and I could see that there's that one particular scene where it's almost an MK Ultra esque scene where they have these two young children that are frightened to death, strut they were lured in by these fake animals that deceive them. Right.
• 7:44
  You know, these kind of alien beings. And then and they're lured in there. It's almost like they're torturing them, but then even how they zone in on the single eye. It looks at one eye, and then you have a monarch butterfly appear inside of the eye, which is like the layers and pod layers of symbolism here. Anyway, I'll I'll let you continue, with your thoughts on that.
• 8:05
  Speaker 2: It it's it's definitely orchestrated, and and the script is flipped where somehow it's okay. The ends justify the means. Sometimes it's okay to abduct a little boy and a little girl and put them through these horrific, you know, ordeals because that's what it is, and then erase their memories so they don't remember any of it. And so we're triggered by the cardinal decades later. Seriously?
• 8:26
  And that's and and it's and it's it's dressed up where, you know, we're torturing the Graves. We're torturing the aliens, vivisection, all this nonsense. And somehow, it gets a pass that it's okay because look look, Margaret, you know, the character, main character of the movie, she's got these super superpower abilities. Right? It's just just amazing.
• 8:47
  And then, you know, the last word, I think I can talk about this because it's all over the Internet, and I got this from my friend, Mano Gonzalez. Okay? So Spielberg is Jewish.
• 8:58
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 8:58
  Speaker 2: Is he a practicing Jew? I don't know. The last word in the movie is listen. What is the Shema? Hear, O Israel.
• 9:07
  Listen, O Israel. The Lord your God is one. So he just stops at listen. Right? Is a subliminal reference to the Shema?
• 9:20
  Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one. Is he about to replace the Shema with something else? You tell me. Interesting. It's not there.
• 9:31
  Yeah. It's not there, but, you know, I mean, Mondo picked up on that. That's Mondo's discovery. We we did a show on it, on my show. So the movie is, you know, it's one long chase scene, but it's it's absolutely you know, you picked up on the eye with the monarch butterfly.
• 9:46
  How many people have been picked up on that? Guaranteed. Not many. Not many pick up on that. Right?
• 9:52
  So it there's a lot I'm going back to see it again this week because, you know, you see it once, you're like, okay. And I'm taking pictures on my cell phone and annoying the people around me, but, you know, so be it. But I'm I'm gonna go back, and I'm gonna watch it again because I know I miss stuff. I know I miss stuff, and I need to see it one more time. It's millions of dollars on that film, one continuous chase scene right from the get go, and it never ends.
• 10:18
  It never lets up. And then, of course, the ending is, in my opinion, sort of anticlimactic. But what's interesting about this is and I've I've been quoting this over and over and over again. So in the third trailer so this is not a spoiler alert because it's in the trailer. Right?
• 10:33
  So Spielberg goes, I used to think, wouldn't it be great if if the American people realized if this was all true? And then it cuts away to another scene in this movie. Then he comes back and the camera pans in on him a little bit and goes, it's all true. And what he's talking about there, there are four vignettes that I believe he recreates. The first is the Roswell incident where Roswell's a real deal, and it is you know, they've retrieved bodies from the craft.
• 11:00
  This is in our our 10 box DVD set, which we have two films on Roswell. We were in the debris field. We picked up a piece of the metal that was folded in on itself, a little small dinky piece of metal. Looks like this. Here it is right here.
• 11:16
  It came out of the ground eight inches, been buried there a very long time, completely encrusted in dirt. We've had it tested laboratory at with a scanning electron microscope. It's in between two known aluminum alloys. So what's that? We don't know.
• 11:32
  More testing needs to be done. So it's not a weather balloon. That's the cover story. So the first thing they allude to the Roswell Incident. Then they allude to the Kecksburg Incident.
• 11:41
  I've been to both of these places. I've been to Kecksburg in Pennsylvania. My wife's parents were alive and in Youngwood, which is right a stone's throw from Kecksburg when this whole thing came down. Roads were closed, army presence, this whole thing. Another weather balloon story.
• 11:57
  I don't think so. So, you know, that's that's how they dress it up. If nothing to see here, keep moving. And the third one, of course, is Jackie Gleason with Nixon, probably at, you know, one of one of the areas where the bodies were being kept, you know, Wright Pat or some other place. It doesn't matter, but I believe that that was real.
• 12:16
  And, again, we actually used the the article where they interview Gleeson and his wife, and his they they held to this. This is what happened. Gleeson came back from that encounter with Nixon. He was totally freaked out. So, you know, we'll never know, but guess what?
• 12:32
  It's in the Spielberg film. Gee. Why is it there? And then the fourth one, of course, is Eisenhower meeting with the Grays at Holloman Air Force Base. Again, if you're a ufologist, this is all status quo.
• 12:43
  If you're not a ufologist and you've looked at this stuff for years and laughed at it, then it's like, woah. What are we looking at? What do you mean Gleeson met with Nixon and they went and saw bodies? What about Eisenhower and and the and the Grays and the contract? You mean Roswell wasn't a weather balloon?
• 12:57
  So it it gets it gets complex. Kecksburg, what's that? I thought it was another weather balloon or experimental craft, blah blah blah. So this stuff is rolling out, and then you get whistleblowers like David Grush on the steps of the capital just recently. What was it?
• 13:13
  June 9, he came on the record with with the Anna Paulina Luna, who's the the chairman of that committee, Tim Birchette, who I think is a cochair, other people, and all saying, you know, that the phenomenon is real and that we need to start talking about. We need disclosure now. David Grush got up and really went on for about, I don't know, six, seven minutes talking about the need for full disclosure disclosure now. That's on the steps of the capital. It's a great it's Kabuki Theater.
• 13:40
  It's a dog and pony show. But they have they have moved the needle with David Grush saying that we have retrieved, you know, biologics, which are not human. So the question is, what does the church do with this?
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• 16:16
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• 16:34
  On the trail of a Nephilim, there'll be nine and ten, and that'll put a bow on that. Yes. I could continue and go to other sites and talk to more archaeologists, but I think we've I've shot my wand. This is it. These are Nephilim sites.
• 16:47
  These are ancient megalithic sites that were not built by the Inca or the Shawnee or anybody else. This is Nephilim architecture following angel technology. And after a while, you just it's it's it falls on deaf ears. Just like our just like our DNA on these guys, we're the only team that went down there and took 58 samples on the Paracas elongated skulls. Thank you, J and G, for this.
• 17:10
  Those were our backers. They gave us a boatload of money. We spent a lot of money. Three different labs, tens of thousands of dollars. There was a team of people.
• 17:19
  Richard Shaw, my ex business partner who passed away a few years ago, and he filmed everything. Chase Klotzky, who tagged and bagged all the DNA evidence. Mondo Gonzalez, our lead archaeologist. Rick Woodward, our anthropologist. I mean, we had all these people stacked up, doctors, optometrists, this stuff in our team.
• 17:37
  Look at the orbits, they're 25% larger than a normal human being. There's no sagittal suture. The smoking gun is the foramen magnum. It's tucked all the way in the back. If it's any further back, can see it right there.
• 17:49
  It's almost outside the skull. It should be right here. It should be in the center of the skull. Guess what? It's not.
• 17:56
  So what are we looking at? We're looking at something that happened in vitro. It's not not the result of cradle headboarding. And our DNA showed that the haplo groups from the mitochondrial DNA, the DNA coming from the female line of the equation, came from Eastern Europe, The Levant, sometimes Druze DNA. I mean, it's like, you know, the Baltic area.
• 18:17
  This is and we had DNA. We had C14 on some of these artifacts, and they came back 1,935 years old. That's obviously pre Columbian. That shouldn't be there, but they don't like it. The academics and the archaeological community don't like that because it rewrites history Because the predominant view in archaeological circles is one of isolationism, which means, oh, no.
• 18:39
  All this happened very, very slowly. People move away. Third hierarchy already ran that up the flagpole and smashed it. He created a papyrus boat similar to one thousands of years ago that the the Phoenicians would have used. Right?
• 18:53
  Guess what? He sails out from the Strait Of Gibraltar, okay, and winds up no no compass. Nothing. No map. No compass.
• 19:00
  He winds up on the island of Barbados. And you don't think that wasn't done before? Of course, it was. Then we know that there's a diaspora from Nephilim tribes that happened in The Levant thousands of years ago when Joshua and Caleb pushed the conquest of the of the of the promised land. All these Nephilim tribes, the Zanzim and the Imam and Nephilim, the Raphaelim, the Anakim, the Horites, the Perizzites, they begin to flee the area.
• 19:25
  How do we know this? Percopius, the Roman historian writes, there was a stelae on the shores of North Africa. It says, we are they who fled from the face of Joshua, the robber, the son of Nun. What the heck is that doing in North Africa? What Joshua, the son of Nun, are talking about is the Joshua who kicked the Nephilim out of the promised land.
• 19:46
  So they go into the Mediterranean. They go to places like Gozo, Malta, Sardinia, Ioannou, Sicily, the Balaricks, up into Spain, Portugal, France, England. I've been to many of these sites. They're ancient megalithic structures. Human beings did not do them.
• 20:01
  End of story. Believe what you wanna believe. And then from there, they go into Ireland where you see all these megalithics and dolmens and all this other stuff. They come over to the new world. America's Stonehenge.
• 20:11
  We have two films on this. 4,000 year old site, and the summer solstice just happened a few days ago. Okay, so here's the summer solstice standing stone. The sun comes down. Let me get a prop here.
• 20:22
  Let's say this is the standing stone. The the setting sun comes down and sets right over that stone. Okay? So let's say you're standing in the center of that hinge, you would see the sun come down and set over, you know, set behind that stone. What's that doing there?
• 20:38
  So Kelsey Stone goes on Google Earth, and he goes from the center of his henge out to the summer solstice standing stone. He draws a line on Google Earth, and it goes to his astonishment across the Atlantic. Now he's in Southern England and he zooms in on it. That line bifurcates, intersects the two trilithons at Stonehenge, England. That, my friend, is not a coinkadink.
• 21:02
  That's absolutely deliberate. So there's a hidden history that's been, misplaced, deliberately hidden from the peoples of the world. I have eight films on this, 10 films on UFO, The Watchers is eleven, two films on Fatima. I mean, you can only and and and people aren't interested. That's fine.
• 21:21
  It's free will. I totally get it. So you made ignorant all your life. So the Lord's called me to this. I've done it.
• 21:26
  I think we're done. Two more films, Omnitrove and Nephilim, nine and ten, and nine is gonna be a mindblower as well as 10. Both of them will be that'll put a bow on the series. And, you know, I'll be seventy sixth in December, taking a step back, you know, just to see what the new marching orders are. But I think coming to a close.
• 21:44
  So let me finish the ramp by saying this. When you've got congressmen, congresswomen, scientists, physicists, Marco Rubio, the secretary of state, numerous other whistleblowers coming on the record, including our own government, which has released three batches of UFO information, And the church is asleep, and the church, for the most part, won't even talk about it? What do what do you say? What do say?
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Well, so I wanna talk about Nephilim, but I but I I wanna close off just the finish the, UFO, discussion for this this part at least. You know, something that I noticed in in watching the Spielberg movie, the film, I felt that the underlying theme of it, it was the opposite of what you would have seen in, say, Independence Day, where there's these hostile kind of monsters, basically, that have advanced technology that wanna kill us all. We're gonna fight back. I found that the Disclosure Day film, it was and you I mean, it was so obvious. You saw when do you have any kind of modern Hollywood film with a strong Christian or Catholic presence?
• 22:54
  It doesn't exist unless they're mocking it. Right? So you have nuns, you have a crucifix, you have people quoting scripture, you have a lot of this stuff, but it felt like what they're trying to do is almost kind of build this narrative that they want you to recognize that aliens are God's creatures and that they're a higher form of life, and that believing and entrusting aliens is almost like you're just believing in God and in another one of his creatures. It's like they wanted you to look at it, like, benevolently. It's almost as if they're setting something up where they're gonna bring forth some sort of new alien religion.
• 23:33
  I mean, you know, actually, a lot of it reminded me of Stranger in a Strange Land, you know, getting back into what was got it's it's a very similar setup as what happened in that book. I forget the author, Heinlein, Robert Heinlein, I think, where they have the the the kind of the Martian kind of coming down and teaching humans what's really happening, and they form a religion, he becomes a Messiah. I mean, that to me, that just seemed like it it was not about, hey, everybody. Look. There's aliens.
• 24:00
  It was like, hey. Look. There's aliens, but here's how it's gonna fit into your religious worldview.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Well, you you know, you mentioned Manu's mother superior delivers the overarching paradigm of the whole film. And she says, surely it was such a great vast universe. God would have made us the only creatures. Now I'm paraphrasing, but that's what she says. And that that is the theme of the film, that, you know, maybe and and what you gotta remember, that last word, listen.
• 24:30
  You know, he's in my opinion, it's there. He doesn't he doesn't go all the way. He doesn't say, listen. You know, hero of Israel, the lord of god. He's not he's not giving us something new, but he's setting it up.
• 24:42
  And I think savvy savvy viewers will pick up on that, but there's no way to know unless you sit down with Spielberg and go, hey. You know, what do you mean by this? Maybe a year from now, he'll spill the beans. The great deception is, will happen, and it's in the book, rungs of disclosure. It's rung number 18.
• 24:59
  So even though it's not, you know, we're up to rung 30, the top rung is, in my opinion, there will be a nuclear event on the planet. How do I know that? They're saber rattling with nukes all day long. You know, the Iranians are are masters of the tap dance, masters. Oh, you can come and look at our centrifuges.
• 25:19
  Oh, you can't come. Oh, we have nothing here. Oh, we moved it over here. Oh, there's nothing to see. Everybody go home.
• 25:25
  Oh, we'll sign the agreement. Oh, we're not gonna sign the agreement. Oh, we'll open the Strait Of Hormuz. Oh, we'll close the Strait Of Hormuz. Look.
• 25:32
  You're looking at a culture which is steeped in deceit. Absolute and they are masters of it. And you've got a neophyte, Donald Trump, and I love the guy, but he's a knee he doesn't know what he's getting into. And Marco Rubio, these people have no idea what they're in for. And this whole thing is so corrupt and so, you know, layer upon layer upon layer of deceit and more deceit.
• 25:56
  And the reason why I bring that up, all it takes is one nuke. You have a nuclear event anywhere on the planet. That creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced collectively. That's when they show up, in my opinion. And we've already seen this.
• 26:11
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• 26:25
  This is predictive programming. Why? Because over the cities of the world, UFOs appear. Now it's not after a nuclear event. They just appear, and everybody looks at them with awe and astonishment.
• 26:39
  You have a nuclear event that goes off anywhere on this planet. It creates the greatest climate of fear that humanity has ever experienced collectively. That's when they show up. And when they do, they will say, we, the aliens, ET, created all life on this planet. We started the world's religions.
• 26:56
  We started the world's civilizations. Now at this critical juncture in human history, we are back to usher mankind into a golden age. Yeah. Roll the clip if you can.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I'll play it. Yeah. It's a it's a minute and a half long.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And then get back and roll it again. Be stopped. We must make contact. The hordes of flying saucers are nothing new.
• 27:19
  These are routine sightings, not isolated events. Are you seeing that? It's spinning. There's a whole swarm of them. Oh my god.
• 27:25
  They're all against the wind. All against the wind. Look at this. It's a 110, a 150. There was a always happens.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: What a what a weird commercial. Like
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: What what are they advertising, Seth? Do you know? What are they advertising?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, it's Squarespace. Right? So they're advert it's their websites. Right?
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But but it's the last five seconds of of the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: ad. Exactly.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: Is that what you see?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: And Schorsozzi directed it, which is which is obviously that there's a a red flag there. Right?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Big bucks. And what they're signaling is remember, he's got a minute and a half. So it's Texas, a a diner in Texas, New York City, Paris, France, and some place in Japan. What he's telegraphing filmically is that whatever this is is a global event. Everybody is in lockstep.
• 29:20
  They all see it at the same time, and it stops everything. Life as we know it just changed. Did you see the woman's face, one of awe when she looks up? There you go. This is predictive programming.
• 29:31
  They are telegraphing what's about to happen. And, oh, wait, that's preposterous. Watch. Watch. You get a nuke going off anywhere on the planet, and, that's when they show up, in my opinion.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: And so what do you I guess we're kind of getting into the bigger picture things here. What do you think these creatures are? What do you think, How does it tie in? Because there's a lot of Christians that will have this perspective of, if you believe in aliens, it's like, it's almost like you believe in witchcraft or something, right? And and it's I I've seen the the the kind of divisive discussions online about this.
• 30:13
  And but but you can also see on the flip side that, yeah, people will take that and say, oh, should believe in them. They're these higher forms of life, and we shall always worship them. And I'm kind of in the mind of like, well, you know, maybe they exist, and maybe they're just kind of these lowly creatures that are in awe with us because we know that we're created in image of God. And and these things look like ugly slugs with big eyes. And so maybe I mean, so it's like, how do you how do you frame what's going on?
• 30:43
  How do how do you look at this from your own kind of background in your own spiritual worldview?
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so let's start from the beginning. And I got this from Gary Stearman. Genesis three fifteen is the gateway to the Bible. It's not taught in the churches. Most pastors don't even know about it.
• 30:58
  They just skip right over it. Why isn't this taught in seminary? And the gateway to the Bible, Genesis three fifteen, Adam and Eve have just done the unthinkable. They have sided with the dragon. They have taken something into them, which we're not sure really what it is, and their DNA has changed.
• 31:16
  They realize they're naked. They realize that, you know, something has radically changed. They're hiding from the Lord. So Jesus, the pre incarnate Christ, appears in the garden. He says this: I will put enmity between you, between your offspring, between you and the woman, between your seed, your offspring, and her seed.
• 31:38
  He, the Messiah, shall bruise your heel and you shall bruise his head, you shall bruise his heel. Let's walk through that. I will put enmity between you and the woman. That's war. And between your seed and her seed, between your offspring and her offspring.
• 31:53
  The one coming from the seed of the woman, the Messiah, the protoevangelium, first prophecy in the Bible, will bruise your head. You shall it's actually shall crush your head. He shall crush your head. You will bruise his heel, depending on which translation you look at. The bottom line is this is it.
• 32:11
  It's the whole Bible. It's a seed war. Three chapters later in Genesis six, the seed war erupts, but that's not what's taught in the churches. That's not what's taught in seminary. The Sethite view is taught.
• 32:22
  When Jesus appears two thousand years ago and says, it'll be like the days of Noah when I return, everybody knows what he's talking about because the bones of the Nephilim are openly on display in Hebron. How do we know that from Josephus, first century historian, who writes about it? And the bones of Nephilim in Hebron are unlike any human vestige. They don't look like any human beings at all, but they're there for people to see them. So as you would go to Jerusalem, one way you would go is to go through Hebron.
• 32:51
  So people know what he's talking about because the Sethite theory isn't invented. The Sethite theory doesn't come into being until the fourth century with Julius Africanus. Augustine adopts it. You know, everything is spiritualized. Amillennial the whole amillennial paradigm comes into the church.
• 33:08
  We go into the dark ages. Tyndale was burnt at the stake, 1444. Gutenberg advanced a printing press. First time in history you can actually read the bible. Tyndale is burnt at the stake.
• 33:19
  Why? For translating the bible in English. This is not a feel good, happy moment in history, and this war has been continuing. Notice Spielberg dresses up his movie in Catholic clothes because Catholics are the largest religion on the planet, 1,300,000,000 adherents. Evangelicals, dispensationalists, very minimal, very minimal, who look at the Bible in a literal sense.
• 33:44
  So you've got Genesis three fifteen, which tells you it's going be a seed war, and someone will come from the seed of the woman who will crush the dragon's head. Three chapters later in Genesis six, the Benehi Elohim are there the sons of God, which are always referred to the angels. End of story. You can believe what you want to believe. You can believe the Sapphite theory.
• 34:03
  Good luck. Because you can't get there from here. It's a seed war. And if it's the godly line of Seth and the hoochie mamas of of Cain, then we're in trouble. But there's no hoochie mama there.
• 34:12
  It's fallen angels, the watchers, having sex with the women. Read the book of Enoch. If you were gonna keep one book out of pastor's hands and tell them, don't read the book of Enoch. And and and Christians, and don't read the book of Enoch. You'll go to hell if you read the book of Enoch.
• 34:27
  Read the book of Enoch, folks. Because it tells you exactly who the sons of god are, the angels of heaven. They do the unthinkable. It goes back to the Genesis three fifteen seed war. Then you get the Tower Of Babel with Nimrod.
• 34:39
  What's going on there? Something weird's going on. He confuses the language. Then you get Abraham and the kings. Why does Abraham go up against these Nephilim kings that are there?
• 34:48
  Then finally, get Sodom and Gomorrah. Why is this maniacal capricious, sadistic, angry god blowing everybody out of the water or flooding the world with water, confusing the language, and then destroying Sodom and Gomorrah, the Nephilim stronghold. Why do you think they're going after the angelic being? The angels have physicality. They show up with Abraham.
• 35:10
  One of them is Jesus. Finally taps out Abraham. Through your seed, the nations of the world be blessed. So now we know we're the seed. There's that word again where the seed's gonna come from.
• 35:20
  Finally, when we get to Canaan, I've heard pastors stand up and go, well, I know it seems like genocide, but in the guise of God, it really isn't. Excuse me. Once you plug plug in the the Genesis three fifteen narrative and realize that the seed war is culminating with the seed of Abraham after four hundred years. You got 3,000,000 people there and on the field of battle, you've got the Nephilim, the Anakin, the Rephaim, the Imams, the Zanzemim, and everybody else, they're fighting. It's the seed war, the culmination of it.
• 35:50
  But if you don't know Genesis three fifteen, you can't get there. Finally, when you go to Jude, let me skip that. When you go back, go to Daniel two forty three, their seed will mingle with the seed of men, but they will not cleave to them. Whose seed are we talking about? It goes back to the Genesis narrative.
• 36:06
  When Jesus says they'll be like the days of Noah, everybody knows what he's talking about. You mean the fallen angels are going to come down here and start messing with the genome? Exactly. You mean, when Nephilim were going be on the earth? Exactly.
• 36:17
  Daniel two forty three. There's seed lamingo with the seed of men. So Jesus warns us, it'd be like the days of Noah. Men fain for fear from his coming upon the earth. Even the elect would be deceiver if that were possible.
• 36:29
  Paul adds to that. Satan comes with all signs and lying wonders. First Timothy chapter four verse one, the spirit especially states that in the latter time, some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits of a doctrine of demons. Finally, second Thessalonians chapter two, what do we get? We get the whole idea of the apostasia.
• 36:46
  Do not be troubled in word or letter, but the day of the lord has come and are gathering to him. That day will not happen until the apostasy, the falling away, and then the man of sin will be revealed. There's a gap there. We don't know how long it is. And if the word apostasia, you get you get two Christian theologians, you'll get four different interpretations.
• 37:03
  Does it mean rapture, departure? Does it mean apostasy of the Jews? Does it mean apostasy? And then you get some will depart from the faith, a loaded question. So you've got all these different denominations.
• 37:16
  We know from Jesus' own word, unless you're born again and spirit filled, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. So what's the prerequisite for being a Christian? Being born again and spirit filled, not attending a denomination for thirty years. Good luck with that. That's great.
• 37:32
  I'm glad you're going. But unless a person accepts Jesus, I'll just give you an example. Both my parents were raised Catholic. They went to church all the time. And I know it sounds like I'm bagging on the Catholic church.
• 37:42
  Neither of them. I bought them to the Lord. They didn't know what salvation was. They had never been told about salvation. They were not born again and spirit filled until I told them what it was.
• 37:55
  And then my father received the Holy Spirit. So you've got great swaths of Christianity who claim to be Christians, but are they really? And I really, I'm I'm shooting with both barrels. I'm gonna tick off a whole lot of people here, But it's true. Unless you're spirit filled and born again and spirit filled, you cannot, not my word, take it up with Jesus.
• 38:17
  Why would Jesus say, unless a man be born again, he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. His words, not mine. I'm just a messenger. Don't shoot me. I don't want to hear it.
• 38:26
  Take it up with him. But that's what he says. What do you mean being born again? How do I become born again? That's my point.
• 38:32
  Most of the people in these Christian churches, so called Christian churches, have no idea what being born again is. A good swath of the church is all millennial, where all this is just allegory. So you can't possibly always start allegory. We're already in the millennial kingdom. The church age.
• 38:50
  So who cares whether Israel comes in and out of the land a thousand times? Means nothing. Excuse me. Amos nine fourteen and fifteen. I will bring back the people, the captives.
• 39:00
  I will bring back the captives of my people, Israel. They will build away cities and inhabit them. They will plant vineyards and and drink the wine from them, but will also plant guards and eat the fruit from them. I will plant them in their land, and never again will they be plucked up out of a land I have given them, says the lord your god, 05/14/1948. That scripture, I got this from rabbi Jason Sobel, was being written in all the synagogues worldwide.
• 39:24
  Amos nine fourteen-fifteen. I will bring back the calculus of my people Israel, 05/14/1948. Who has heard such a thing? Can a nation be born in a day? Prophecy being fulfilled.
• 39:35
  But most of the churches are millennial. So all this prophecy, really is a man of me saying, how can you possibly determine this? It's all allegorical. It all happened. We're preterists.
• 39:43
  It all happened a gazillion years ago. Sorry, it doesn't. I'm an ardent dispensationalist. I'm a charismatic dispensationalist. I believe in the gifts of the spirit, but I believe we're in the dispensation of grace, which might end sooner than later, and we are gonna move into the time of Jacob's trouble, not Fred, Barney, and and and Harry.
• 40:02
  It's the time of Jacob. It's it deals with the seven years with Israel. We're all the nations of the world. We could see it right now, the rise of antisemitism, which makes no sense at all, but there's a spiritual dynamic behind it. So that's that's a lot for people to digest, but that's where we are.
• 40:17
  And unless a person is born again, it's birth filled, they cannot enter. So circling back to the first Timothy chapter four, what are we really looking at? The spirit expressly states, not LA Marzulli, I'm just quoting here, don't don't crucify me folks. The spirit especially states some will depart from the faith, giving heed to what? Seducing spirits or doctrines of demons.
• 40:40
  What are the doctrines of demons? We'll show you who god really is. We created all life, ET. ET created all life on this planet. ET genetically manipulated early man.
• 40:51
  ET started the world's religion, started the world's civilizations. Now these benevolent aliens are back to usher mankind into a golden age. By golly, by gum.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Here we are. It also reminds me of the, the film Prometheus. At the opening scene of that film, it has the archetypes. Right? The big, strong guy, you know, very pale, and he has this black it looks like living I mean, and and he drinks it, and he falls into the water, and that supposedly is what gives birth to life.
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• 43:08
  And so when you say it's a battle of seeds, getting back and so the Nephilim so who were the Nephilim?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: The Nephilim, the progeny of fallen angels and human women. Okay. The Beneha Elohim in Genesis six always refers to the angelic host. Jude tells us that the angels left their first estate. What is he talking about?
• 43:28
  He knows exactly what it is. The Sapphire theory isn't invented till the fourth century. They all know that when Jesus said there'll be like a days of Noah, they all know what that means. Now it's all twisted. Don't read don't read the book of Enoch, whatever you do.
• 43:41
  Never study Genesis three fifteen and get the proper exegesis of it. Believe the Sapphite theory, fine. Believe what you want to believe. But that's it. And the vestiges of an Nephilim are all over the planet.
• 43:52
  I'll show you something. This is a nine footer that yours truly discovered on Catalina Island. It's in my book, On the Trail of the Nephilim. That's a nine footer right there. See the skeleton right there?
• 44:05
  That's a nine footer. That's Ralph Gooden leaning up against the shovel, which he was five foot eight. We've had this picture looked at by numerous people, and it's a nine footer. Then you go to places like Sacsayhuaman in Peru, which you only see for a period of time, and then it all just disappears. It all just goes away.
• 44:32
  Gee, why is that? So let me just show you this real quick. So when you look at this, look at the first picture here. I've been to Saxeboomai numerous times. Look at that right there.
• 44:46
  See the people? Look at the megalithic stone. We're told the Inca were master stone builders. Excuse me, no, they weren't. This has nothing to do with the Inca.
• 44:56
  This is Nephilim architecture, fallen angel technology. If you look above right let me let me show you where I mean. It's on the next page. If you look above this, you will see what I affectionately call Inca Slop. You'll see the little stones that are used by the Inca to fill the gaps.
• 45:22
  I thought I had it here. Yeah, there it is right here. So look behind the doorway. Look behind the doorway. See that right there?
• 45:32
  That's Inca. So Inca would take these small headstones and mortar, but what you're seeing here, right, those are megalithic chambers, megalithic stones. Look at the stonework. No mortar, perfectly cut. How do you do that when these stones weighed forty, fifty,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: You 100 can't even slide a piece of paper between a lot of these. You can't Basically, do if I'm understanding this correctly, so okay, you have the fallen angels, you have these entities that were kicked out, right? They fell to earth, they then, as a way of getting back at God, they set out to destroy God's seed, right? Destroy
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Correct. Correct.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: The DNA of
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: the Destroy mankind.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And so they started probably raping, interbreeding, mixing the two bloods to try to change the human DNA.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And they did.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: These fallen angels had some advanced technology. They had different physical features than us. So coming up to, like, modern time 2026, now they have, in essence, erased the entire idea of this. Right? The entire mainstream idea is that we evolved from monkeys, that there is no God.
• 46:50
  We're not as this, like, floating ball of, you know, rock in this in space, purely just happenstance.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: And so they have deleted and they've hidden all of this history of advanced technology, advanced civilizations, other civilizations sharing Earth with us. You know, Lemuria, Atlantis, some of these pre previous civilizations, they've hidden all of that because well, I guess, Why why have they why have they hidden all this information for us? Even the point that, yeah, the book of Enoch is is kind of looked at as as like, oh, that's that's kinda witchcraft if you just bring up the book of Enoch within some structure.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable. Right. It's unbelievable. Found the Dead Sea Scrolls. Jude quotes it, and I'm I'm gonna go off off the rails here a little bit.
• 47:32
  I'll be sort of glib as Blake Chuck Messer, one of his favorite words. So Jude is is Jesus' younger brother from Joseph and Mary. Now if you're a Catholic, again, Ellie, you're banging on the Catholics. No. But the Catholics don't believe that Mary, you know, had any of her children.
• 47:51
  I don't believe in that. We know his brothers and his sisters. They just torture the text because Mary has to be a perpetual virgin. Mary disappears from the Bible after the book of Acts. And now she's almost a codemptrix.
• 48:07
  You know, seriously? Co redemptrix? Seriously? They pray to Mary? Seriously?
• 48:12
  Believe what you wanna believe. You know, we're not gonna disparage you. Believe what you wanna believe. But I believe that something else is going on here. And that something else is this.
• 48:24
  Jude is Jesus' younger brother, and he's quoting Enoch. You know and I know that you don't quote something unless it's who you are. It's part of your warehouse. Behold, I show you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall be changed in a moment in the twinkling of an eye.
• 48:40
  The trumpet will sound, the dead will rise imperishable, for we all must be changed. For the imperishable must be clothed with the or the perishable must be clothed with the imperishable, the mortal with immortality. How can I rattle that off? Because it's who I am. I say it every single day, along with all these other scriptures which I memorized.
• 48:57
  It's it's my it's my armor. It's my spirit man. I wear it. I put it on every single day. I walk in it.
• 49:05
  I remind myself of God's word. It's part of my it's part of L. A. Marzulli. It's part of who I am.
• 49:12
  Jude is quoting from the book of Enoch. You don't quote unless it's part of who you are. This is this is the glib part right here. So Jude is Jesus' younger brother. They don't have books in those days.
• 49:26
  There are no such thing as books. They have scrolls. No books, just scrolls. Is it possible that Jesus walks in with the Enoch scroll, the book of Enoch, and says, Hey, Jude, check the scroll out. You might use it a little later on.
• 49:45
  I'm not saying that happened, but it could have happened. It's a possibility. They're in the same house together. Jesus is reading all this stuff. Why not?
• 49:56
  I'm not trying to make a doctrine out. It's not a hill worth dying on. It's complete conjecture. And I said, I preface it by saying I'm going get a little glib, a little funny, but it's a possibility Because the book of Enoch is found on the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the Essenes were alive when Jesus was there. That community was there and very, very active.
• 50:19
  So it's a strong possibility. And did Jesus have interaction with the Essenes? In my opinion, he did talk to Ken Johnson. But a lot of it's conjecture, and this is why there's a gazillion denominations, and we all war against each other and fight and backstab and we're right and blah blah blah blah blah. So, you know, there's two schools of thought going back to the apostasia, going back to First Timothy chapter four.
• 50:49
  So if you're a Calvinist, you believe that you're sealed, that you're chosen from the beginning of time, that God just calls you and you're it. You have no free will. Arminians believe that you have free will and that you can lose your salvation. You can walk away from it. So it's very controversial and people on both sides of the aisle are very adamant about their position.
• 51:11
  And if you're if you're on one side of the earth, they'll call you a heretic for believing the opposite. So, to me, it's like this this departure from the faith. It's not either or, it's both and. Because you've got people who profess to be Christians who were not born again and spirit filled that are leaving that are leaving the faith. Some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits.
• 51:36
  So what are those seducing spirits? These guys. We are your gods. We created all life on this planet. We genetically manipulated early man.
• 51:44
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• 51:54
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• 52:08
  I mean, it's all here. It's all here. And this is why I'm not I'm not like stepping down, but I'm I'm slowing down. I've I've I've done it. I mean, there's no there's no way I can keep reiterating the same thing, write another book, but what's the point?
• 52:22
  My last book is called Volusiferian Endgame, and it's just a it's an amplification of what we've been talking about. It's sort of another step from the rungs of disclosure. And, you know, and that's it. The two films, Amatrov and Nephilim, nine and ten, will put a bow on that whole series. I mean, I don't I don't think I need to do anything else unless the lord directs my steps, and then it's, yes, sir.
• 52:46
  How high? I'm all set, you know, to do it. But I'm I still do my show on YouTube and still do appearances like this, but no conferences except the prophecy watchers conference. No no conferences because it's a waste of resources. You hop on a plane.
• 53:02
  You spend all this time to get there. There's three or 400 people. Whereas you know this, YouTube, ten, twenty, 90,000 people. You know, if it goes viral, it can be a couple 100,000 people. That's a lot of people.
• 53:13
  It's a lot And of
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: so, so these, these Nephilim, these, these fallen angels, right? And these other kind of races, you could say that sort of interbreeding. Do you think that when you look at the control structure of where we are right now, right, this what appears to be some sort of Luciferian kind of elite system that has control over our banking system, you know, etcetera, do you think that these bloodlines trace back to those fallen angels, and that's why they've hidden so much of the history? Because they're it's almost like they're covering their own trail, that they're they're they're hiding the parts that they don't want us to know about, so we're easily more easily controlled, more easily be we can become docile. We just, you know, just busy staring at football on our phones.
• 54:08
  I mean, so is that is that part of it that you I mean, in in a certain say way, would you say that these Nephilim, these fallen angels are in in essence kind of running the world now? Like, are they have they achieved those levels of power?
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Yes. Yes and no. Yes and no. We can't prove it. There's no you know, anybody can say anything.
• 54:35
  Yeah. So I understand all that. I've looked into it. I've read books on it. Back burner.
• 54:42
  There's stuff that are just back burner for me. You you can't you can't run with it. You can talk David, you know, has made a whole living off this, but but I can't because I can't I can't vet it. I've had I've heard stories. I've had witnesses come to me and tell me stories, but I can't vet that story.
• 54:59
  There's no two or three witnesses. There's one witness Yeah. Telling something. How can I go
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: with them? Same similar place I've arrived at. They're, looking into reptilians and all this. It's like, oh, it's interesting. There's a lot of Yeah.
• 55:10
  Odd things that line up and everything, but it's like, I I can't I can't unless I go capture some high level politician and dissect them and see there's a reptile inside, I can't prove this stuff. So it's you know, I'm gonna try to focus on things that I can I can understand that actually can use to to affect change?
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And and I I'm I'm with you. I I call it the back burner. This stuff just sits on the cosmic stew in the back burner until we have more information. Some things I do know.
• 55:36
  When you go to Saks of Oman, don't tell me that the Inca built this. You're lying. Don't tell me that the Shawnee constructed the Octagon Mound, which encompasses 50 acres, which is advanced geometry. The Shawnee didn't have anything like this. But that's what they say.
• 55:50
  They just they just and they control the narrative. Just like in schools, Darwinism is is taught as fact. It's a theory. How do you get something from nothing? Just explain that to me.
• 56:00
  So in the beginning, there was nothing. Okay. Now what? Well, yeah. Okay.
• 56:06
  So from nothing, we created what? How does that work? It doesn't, does it? If you have nothing, then how did the first self replicating molecule appear? Duh.
• 56:17
  I don't know. Well, you know, shut up. If you don't know, then quit ramming this down everybody's throat. You know? We serve a loving God who spoke everything into existence through Jesus, created all things.
• 56:30
  That's how it worked.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: And so but looking at this looking at this, kind of biological chart we're building out here. We have humans. You have Nephilim. You have the crossbreeding. Where where do aliens where do these the grays or, you know, like the the like, on the poster behind you, the stereotypical big eyes, grays, grony little thing.
• 56:51
  Where do you see them fitting on the overall map of all this information?
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: In our in our fourth film on abductions, we sat down with two men and two women. All were taken numerous times. Karen was conceived three times. Angela conceived once. Al had sperm taken from him.
• 57:10
  Emile was implanted, and we took the implant out from him. So this is the deep end of the pool, folks, and we're running out of time. So I gotta cut to the chase here and sort of deliver the goods. The grays are meat suits, not all of them, but many of them. They're meat suits.
• 57:26
  They're avatars. Demons are the disembodied spirits of a Nephilim that wander the earth. They're earthbound. A demon has to inhabit a person, an animal, or an object in order to manifest in this dimension. The dragon, Satan, knows this, so he's created avatars.
• 57:42
  How do we know this? Whitley Strieber, who has no Christian dog in the hunt, opened up a draw on the ship, and there are the graves stacked up like like napkins. You know? This one woman, Dolly, who's an experience or like Karen was, but she never came across the line. Dolly talks about them, like, stacked up like chairs.
• 58:01
  The taller ones, which are called the tall whites, okay? So again, a lot of this is conjecture, but it's based on my conversations with abductees. The tall whites are very tall, very emaciated, and they kind of float around. If you're an angel and you're in the presence of the Holy God before the rebellion, and you're worshiping God, you're worshiping the Lord, but what is he giving you back? Just like when we worship at a church service, and it's really, it's not mechanical, we're in worship.
• 58:35
  Thank you, Jesus. Thank you. Thank you for salvation. Thank you for your blessings. Thank you for this next breath.
• 58:41
  Thank you for the gift of life. Thank you that you set my feet on solid ground. We're worshiping the Lord. We worship you because you're God. Hallelujah.
• 58:48
  Thank you for your son. Thank you for the sacrifice. Thank you. You know, we're worshiping him. Guess what?
• 58:54
  He's giving us stuff back. We walk out of that service. We're filled with peace and joy and love because he's giving us things back. But what about the angels who are in the presence of a loving holy God and they're worshiping him? What is he giving back?
• 59:07
  Because every angel who shows up, everybody does the face plant because they're glowing, man. They're like, they're in sight, right? But what if you're a fallen angel, and you're no longer in the presence of a loving God, and you're not getting your sustenance? You're still immortal, you can't be killed, but you're immortal. Are you emaciated?
• 59:28
  Do you atrophy? Do you atrophy? My opinion, you do. Can Meneschizmodosi, the Greek word, thank you, rostisor. You can change.
• 59:38
  You can appear as an angel of light. You can appear as the god Apollo, right, or anything else you want to, a reptilian insecticide. And these all may real entities that are somehow part of his kingdom. We don't know. But we know that people see them.
• 59:55
  The tall whites, the Nordics, the the reptilians, the insecticide, the grays. There's a hierarchy there. What are they really? We don't know. But in my opinion, demons are inhabiting these avatar bodies of the grays, which is why they all look alike, which is why there's no reproductive system, no digestive system.
• 1:00:15
  They're just shells. They're meat suits. That's what Karen calls them. And other abductees say the same thing.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: Interesting. Because it because that really kinda turns turns on its head if you look at it like that. It's like, oh, these aren't these enlightened, you know, creatures here to teach us. They're they're just demon avatars. They're just it's like, so treat them the same way you would if you're walking in the woods at night and you see some scary red eyed thing.
• 1:00:38
  It's like, yeah, that that that's evil. Stay away from that. Don't worship it. You know, keep true. Right?
• 1:00:44
  So It's part
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: of it's part of the Luciferian kingdom.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That makes sense. So yes, we are kind of we are hitting our time. Before we finish, though, I do wanna bring up your website. You've got, so you have your rungs of disclosure, which is rungsofdisclosure.com.
• 1:01:04
  Takes you here. You can watch them. Right? Explain what's what's happening here on this site.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Scroll up a little bit. Right scroll down just a little bit where it says how to navigate the site. Right underneath that too, start here. Right?
• 1:01:20
  So the first 17 rungs, rung 18 and beyond. So when you click the 17 rungs, you get the overview. When you go to 18 and beyond, there you go. That's rung number 29. So there you go.
• 1:01:34
  It's all there. Interactive website.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Okay. But
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: you need to read the book.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: And then your main website is just lamarzulli.com.dotcom. Right here. Okay. Got your books, you know, contact information, all kinds of good stuff on here. Okay, great.
• 1:01:54
  Now, in closing, do you have any final thoughts? I know we hit a lot of topics, we span the universe in our discussion. But if you had one one last thing to say, what would that be?
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: If you think you know him, but you don't know Jesus, then you don't know Jesus. If you think you know him, there's no personal relationship with Jesus, then there is no personal relationship. Then you don't know him. How do you know him? How do you become born again?
• 1:02:18
  You confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead and you shall be saved. So you say, well, how do I know God raised him from the dead? That's the shroud of Torah. We have a whole film on this. Holy shroud, holy fire.
• 1:02:32
  This is what it looks like to have a naked eye. It was done, but it it's it's God's calling card. But in 1898, Secunda Pia took the first picture, and that's what he saw. So this is a negative image. When photograph this, this is what you get in the development room, and that's him.
• 1:02:54
  And look at the scourge marks. Brutal. Look at where the nails come out, on the backside, not in the palms, but further down in the palm. And they come out the back. Look at the nail print.
• 1:03:09
  Look at the blood flowing out right here. Look at the helmet of thorns. It's God's calling card. There's no other event, there's no other artifact like this on the planet. None.
• 1:03:24
  None. And the carbon fourteen dating was deliberately skewed. That's in our film. Deliberately skewed. And that's been debunked.
• 1:03:30
  But if you go on Google, well, it's a medieval forgery. Right? Even though it's been debunked and proven, right? All this new evidence comes out, oh no, it's a medieval forgery. They can't have that.
• 1:03:45
  Meanwhile, they can't duplicate it, have no idea how it was done. So that's what you do. You confess with your mouth Jesus is Lord, believe in your heart God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. That's it. If it was any harder, we couldn't do it.
• 1:03:58
  Human beings couldn't do it. So do that.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Well, LA, it's been a pleasure speaking with you. There's a lot more to dig into here, but thank you again for what you're doing. And, yeah, just, just take care of yourself. God bless. Maybe get this place of your, of kind of retirement where you can enjoy your golden years.
• 1:04:18
  But we'll see though, whatever you
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Whatever it asks
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: for you. Right.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Take God bless care.