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Credlin | 20 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Pedo Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Good evening, Welcome to the program Busy Show. Tonight, we're
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Speaker 2: going to kick off what's a historic week in Washington,
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Speaker 2: d C for not just America but the world. Plenty
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Speaker 2: happening here at home too. Here's what's coming up tonight
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Speaker 2: on the show. Billions of your money set to find
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Speaker 2: so called green aluminium. It's just the latest in the
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Speaker 2: government's giant money go round when it comes to their
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Speaker 2: renewables energy madness. All eyes on DC as Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: prepares for his second inauguration. And one thing that's abundantly clear,
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Speaker 2: he's already got the Left on the run globally. Is
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Speaker 2: this impacting us too? A new pull out today should
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Speaker 2: be ringing alarm bells for labor. I'll show you that
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Speaker 2: in a moment. What's live in Tel Aviv. We'll go there,
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Speaker 2: following the jubilant scenes as the first three hostages are
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Speaker 2: released as part of that ceasefire deal. But what about
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Speaker 2: the nearly one hundred Palestinian prisoners also freed, and what's
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Speaker 2: the risk that some might end up here in austraight
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Speaker 2: yap and doing what the PM should have done months ago.
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Speaker 2: Today the Coalition announced tough new mandatory minimums for anyone
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Speaker 2: in court committee an anti Semitic terror crime.
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Speaker 1: We will provide the legislation and we will provide the
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Speaker 1: will to stamp out anti Semitism in our country and
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Speaker 1: to send a very clear message that that is not
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Speaker 1: going to be tolerated in any form whatsoever.
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Speaker 2: But first, for all the challenges we have, for all
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Speaker 2: the issues facing the world, and here at home, despite
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Speaker 2: everything this year, I wonder how many of you share
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Speaker 2: my growing sense of optimism about the future. Now. Yes,
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Speaker 2: for a long time a lot's been going wrong, but
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Speaker 2: right now as we move into twenty twenty five, some
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Speaker 2: big things starting to go right. The attack on Australia Day,
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Speaker 2: it's finally starting to subside. We've won and now we've
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Speaker 2: got to lock it in. The energy madness, the emissions
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Speaker 2: have set so many people are now starting to wake
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Speaker 2: up to what it really means and they're fighting back
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Speaker 2: on peak woke. It looks like we're finally starting to
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Speaker 2: turn the corner, and in Canberra there's an increasing chance
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Speaker 2: of a much needed change of government given the Prime
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Speaker 2: ministers continuing slide in the polls. Now I'll get you
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Speaker 2: the latest update on that in a moment. Much of this,
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Speaker 2: of course, is a byproduct of the Trump ascendancy. Whatever
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Speaker 2: you might have thought of Trump the candidate as incoming president,
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Speaker 2: he's shaking things up, shaking up things that badly needed
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Speaker 2: shaking up. He'll end this crazy replacement of reliable, affordable
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Speaker 2: energy based on fossil fuels for energy that only works
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Speaker 2: when the sun shines and the wind blows.
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Speaker 3: And we will drill, baby, Drill, We're going to drill, baby.
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Speaker 2: He'll stop the appeasement of dictators in Beijing, in Moscow,
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Speaker 2: and in Tehran, united only in their hatred of Western civilization.
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Speaker 2: He'll call out all the Islamus fanatics who want to
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Speaker 2: kill in the name of Allah. And he'll end the
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Speaker 2: scourge of illegal migration that's destroying any goodwill for the
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Speaker 2: legal kind and is radically change in the culture of
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Speaker 2: countries in the West for the worse, not the better.
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Speaker 3: We will stop a legal immigration once and for all.
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Speaker 3: We will not be invaded, we will not be occupied,
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Speaker 3: we will not be overrun, we will not be conquered.
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Speaker 2: The mere prospect of Trump's reelections already caused major US businesses,
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Speaker 2: led by Walmart and Meta to drop all their discriminatory
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Speaker 2: hiring practices aimed against white men and most of the
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Speaker 2: rest of the diversity, equity and inclusion agenda as well.
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Speaker 2: And with Trump that we none of this confusion about
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Speaker 2: who he is and who is not a woman, No
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Speaker 2: concession to the trans lobbies demands that biological men invade
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Speaker 2: women's sport and our change rooms.
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Speaker 3: Always remember this is so easy, this will be done tomorrow.
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Speaker 3: We will keep men out of women's sports sober.
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Speaker 2: Trump may not be the president you like, but he
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Speaker 2: is the president the world needs right now. Imagine if
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Speaker 2: it was Kamala Harris being inaugurated tomorrow our time. Does
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Speaker 2: anyone think that Russian and Chinese leaders would be uncertain
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Speaker 2: about their next move, or that there would be even
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Speaker 2: the current limited release of Israeli hostages barbarically held for
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Speaker 2: more than a year now. They may not be polite, erudite,
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Speaker 2: or even especially consistent, but He's always clear, is always strong,
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Speaker 2: and with few exceptions, what he says he will do,
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Speaker 2: he does. High tariffs, especially against China, will stop the
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Speaker 2: d industrialization of the West, even if there's some short
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Speaker 2: term downside for our economy given our China trade dependency.
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Speaker 2: His demands for much higher defense spending will force countries
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Speaker 2: like those in NATO, like US under this labor government
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Speaker 2: iiO to take our responsibilities seriously, even if that means
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Speaker 2: awkward trade offs between national security and social security. What's
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Speaker 2: obvious with the rapid naming of senior members of the
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Speaker 2: incoming administration and the blizzard of executive orders that the
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Speaker 2: new president intends to make tomorrow is the Trump has
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Speaker 2: given careful thought to what went wrong last time and
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Speaker 2: is determined to make a difference from day one. Now,
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Speaker 2: this says to me he intends to be a shockun
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Speaker 2: or president from the get go. Clearly has worked out
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Speaker 2: what he can do unilaterally and what needs congressional approval,
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Speaker 2: and is going to focus initially on what can't be
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Speaker 2: sabotaged by the woke left already backsliders in the Republican Party.
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Speaker 2: Hence his heavy use of executive or presidential orders. Now
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Speaker 2: it's a bit of an echo of my old boss,
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Speaker 2: Tony Abbott, who was PM swiftly sorted out all those
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Speaker 2: problems where he didn't need the Senate or state cooperation,
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Speaker 2: like stopping the boats, which he could do using executive
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Speaker 2: authority and There's a lesson here too for Peter Dutton,
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Speaker 2: who is still the underdog given that no opposition is
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Speaker 2: one after just one term for nearly a century, and
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Speaker 2: who must start thinking about how he too can bypass
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Speaker 2: an inevitably recalcitrant Senate and Bolshey labor states. Still, it's
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Speaker 2: hardly a surprise that today's freshwater poll has done in
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Speaker 2: drawing level with Anthony Albanizi as preferred prime minister. Well
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Speaker 2: I had two in net favorability and the opposition ahead
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Speaker 2: in two party preferred terms. Because the alban Eazy government's
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Speaker 2: knee jerk responds to every issue is to spend yet
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Speaker 2: more of your money on doomed projects. This latest announcement
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Speaker 2: today two billion dollars to prop up the yellow minium industry,
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Speaker 2: which is only in trouble because successive governments have put
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Speaker 2: reducing admissions ahead of affordable and reliable power that's essential
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Speaker 2: for heavy manufactory like smelting. First, the government subsidizes renewables
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Speaker 2: to cut your admissions. Then it subsidizes coal five power
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Speaker 2: stations to keep the lights on. Then it subsidizes your
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Speaker 2: bills at least a little bit. And now it's going
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Speaker 2: to subsidize the yellow minium industry to preserve a couple
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Speaker 2: of thousand jobs left in Tomago, which is in New
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Speaker 2: South Wales, Balbay in Tasmania, Portland in Victoria, and Quanana
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Speaker 2: in Wa, which their own policies would otherwise kill. Now,
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Speaker 2: this is all a giant money go merry go round,
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Speaker 2: and it'd all be unnecessary if a government would let
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Speaker 2: us make the most to our comparative advantage in boss
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Speaker 2: or fuels like colon gas. Now, if we can export
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Speaker 2: them for others to use. Drill, baby drill, why not
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Speaker 2: use them here? Look, later this week and in coming weeks,
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Speaker 2: I'll be reporting on the disaster about to hit rural
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Speaker 2: Australia's prime farmland and some of our best national parks
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Speaker 2: disappear under giant wind turbines and massive arrays of solar panels.
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Speaker 2: Then there's all the transmission lines to get the power
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Speaker 2: from these wind turbines and solar monstrosities. Last weekend and
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Speaker 2: over the weekend last Friday, sorry, and over the weekend,
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Speaker 2: I was back in the town where I grew up,
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Speaker 2: in Victoria's Malley, and what I saw and what I
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Speaker 2: heard was heartbreaking. It's country people who are paying the
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Speaker 2: price of the admissions obsession of the inner city Greens
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Speaker 2: of Labor and those well off teal voters. As well
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Speaker 2: as putting up all our electricity bills, it's also invading
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Speaker 2: the land and compromising the future of Australian farmers. And
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Speaker 2: when that happens, it'll hit the food we eat and
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Speaker 2: in terms of our trade because export earnings will fall,
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Speaker 2: will suffer as a country in the budget. Now there's
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Speaker 2: real anger out there, government changing anger.
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Speaker 4: I'll be honest, all my life I had voted labor.
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Speaker 4: I'll never vote labor again. I think Albanezy is on
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Speaker 4: one sided, two faced. That doesn't take in consideration anybody
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Speaker 4: out here. He's only thinking of himself.
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Speaker 2: I don't miss country people, do they? And don't you
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Speaker 2: miss my special report as a few of them coming up.
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Speaker 2: The first one will start on Wednesday night. All right,
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Speaker 2: As I said, busy globally busy here at home. Let's
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Speaker 2: go to Camanow for the headlines. Sky These political reporter
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Speaker 2: cam Redden.
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Speaker 5: On a landmark day for peace, Peter Dutton meets with
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Speaker 5: Jewish Australians in Bondai, So sorry Chard, promising a zero
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Speaker 5: tolerance approach to anti semitism following a string of attacks
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Speaker 5: across Sydney and Melbourne.
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Speaker 2: And I want to thank you mister Dutton for your
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Speaker 2: leadership and for your commitment.
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Speaker 5: If elected, the Coalition would impose mandatory minimum jail terms
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Speaker 5: of six years for acts of terror, including incidents like
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Speaker 5: the firebombing of a Melbourne synagogue last month.
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Speaker 1: That is not going to be tolerated in any form whatsoever.
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Speaker 5: The Prime Minister wants the current laws to be enforced.
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Speaker 6: Will continue to take strong action under the laws. There's
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Speaker 6: no place for any Semitism.
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Speaker 5: Visiting an aluminium plant in Newcastle, the Prime Minister pledges
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Speaker 5: two billion dollars to help these power hungry smelters transition
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Speaker 5: to green energy.
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Speaker 6: This is what a future made in Australia looks like.
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Speaker 5: As the leaders flesh out their policy platforms, the Prime
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Speaker 5: Minister has locked in the team he'll take to the
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Speaker 5: next election. Bill Shorten officially signing off.
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Speaker 7: Thank you.
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Speaker 5: Four ministers sworn in to new roles. Labour's team all
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Speaker 5: in place for the Prime Minister's next visit to Government House,
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Speaker 5: where he'll send Australia to the polls. Cameron Reddin's Sky
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Speaker 5: News Canberra.
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Speaker 2: All right for more on tonight's headlines. I'm joined down
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Speaker 2: by Skynears senior reporter KARENN Marcus and our political reporter
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Speaker 2: there from Canberra cam Reddit, and we'll welcome to you both.
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Speaker 2: I'll get to the latest over the US and Israel
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Speaker 2: a little later on. First I want to cover off
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Speaker 2: some of the political day here in Australia. Let's start
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Speaker 2: with that announcement cam from the Prime Minister. Two billion
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Speaker 2: dollars towards converting our four aluminium smelters to renewable power.
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Speaker 2: That's in addition to the thirteen billion in production credits
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Speaker 2: that's in the future made in Australia policy. Does it
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Speaker 2: even factor the hundreds of millions of dollars spent by
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Speaker 2: state and fired governments subsidizing the power bills? Are these
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Speaker 2: smelters in recent years? I don't know. You know, in
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Speaker 2: a cost of living election, does labor really think spending
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Speaker 2: big on these sorts of green initiatives will win them votes? Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's difficult, Peter.
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Speaker 5: They argue that these smelters, many of them would either
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Speaker 5: go offshore or there'd be mass job losses. If this
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Speaker 5: wasn't the path they went down, maybe they would given
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Speaker 5: the cost of energy. It's a competitive business after all,
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Speaker 5: But the Coalition has been particularly critical of these. They
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Speaker 5: call these production tax credits handouts or tax breaks for billionaires.
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Speaker 5: Keeping in mind too that Rio Tinto owns three of
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Speaker 5: the four aluminium smelters in Australia, so it's no great
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Speaker 5: surprise that they're a big fan of this. They are
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Speaker 5: particularly popular in Western Australia, so perhaps there's some factor
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Speaker 5: to that. Even some members of the Coalition in Wa
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Speaker 5: have supported this idea of production tax credits, particularly when
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Speaker 5: it comes to green hydrogen and other things Peter and
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Speaker 5: perhaps conveniently too, a couple of those smelters as well,
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Speaker 5: all located in marginal seats, although maybe by chance more
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Speaker 5: so than fiders.
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Speaker 2: Oh it was quick to look about these.
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Speaker 5: Four from four, I think it is. But yeah, look,
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Speaker 5: they seem to think that this is the only way
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Speaker 5: to keep them here, and maybe if free O Tinto
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Speaker 5: and three of the four, well maybe they're in the
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Speaker 5: best position to bargain for that.
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Speaker 2: Well, what the other way to keep them here is
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Speaker 2: not for smash There was stupid policies and you wouldn't
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Speaker 2: have to pay out the billions. But you know, what
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Speaker 2: would I know. I've just worked in camera too long. Hey,
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Speaker 2: let's go to the vexed issue with antisemitism hate speech.
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Speaker 2: We talk about that a lot here, Caroline. What I've
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Speaker 2: found extraordinary in the newspapers today reports that our most
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Speaker 2: elite universities this is the group of eight. These are
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Speaker 2: the ones that allowed all those pro Palestinian encampments to
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Speaker 2: intimidate Jewish students for months. They say that they don't
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Speaker 2: accept the gold standard definition of antisemitism from the International
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Speaker 2: Holocaust Remembrance Alliance. This is the definition that reads antisemitism.
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Speaker 2: It's a certain perception of Jews which may be expressed
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Speaker 2: as towards Jews, and on it goes. Well, I don't
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Speaker 2: think that's good enough. Instead, they've got a much watered
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Speaker 2: down definition. Instead, they say it's a definition that works
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Speaker 2: in an Australian context. And it comes at a time
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Speaker 2: as the New South World's government says it will strengthen
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Speaker 2: hate speech laws following those recent attacks in Sydney. But
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Speaker 2: I mean, here we are again fighting over definition of
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Speaker 2: the word anti Semitism, rather than doing enough to actually
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Speaker 2: stop it.
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Speaker 8: It's curious, isn't it.
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Speaker 3: Peter.
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Speaker 8: The Jews seem to be the only minority who aren't
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Speaker 8: allowed to define what racism against them looks like. Because
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Speaker 8: you would take any other sort of minority, whether it's
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Speaker 8: a gender minority, a gender identity minority, or racial minority
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Speaker 8: in university and they'd be treated as protected species. But
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Speaker 8: it seems Jews are treated really differently.
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Speaker 2: So you know, this is the place.
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Speaker 8: Early universities, universities like the University of Sydney where we
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Speaker 8: saw such a massive proliferation of anti Semitism, of harassment
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Speaker 8: and hatred against Jewish students and staff that the vice
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Speaker 8: Chancellor Mark Scott had to apologize and say that he'd
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Speaker 8: let those people down. And yet they reject this definition
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Speaker 8: that has been accepted in many universities around the world,
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Speaker 8: include and some in Australia as well, like Monash University,
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Speaker 8: and yet they reject that definition.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I.
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Speaker 8: Also have to ask what is the actual point of
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Speaker 8: having a government appointed envoy for anti Semitism in Jillian
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Speaker 8: Siegel when her advice, which has included that universities adopt
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Speaker 8: this definition is ignored. I mean, Anthony Albanizi has already
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Speaker 8: rejected her advice. When it comes to having mandatory minimum
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Speaker 8: sentences for attacks on synagogues. He's ignored her advice on
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Speaker 8: the needing to be a national Cabinet on anti Semitism.
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Speaker 8: What is actually the point is just a token gesture
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Speaker 8: at this stage, and just to make one point about
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Speaker 8: these hate speech laws that New South Wales is looking
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Speaker 8: to strengthen, Chris Mins has come out and said he's
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Speaker 8: going to be putting this legislation on the table when
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Speaker 8: Parliament resumes. I just want to make the point that
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Speaker 8: it's Islamic groups in the form of the Australian Federation
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Speaker 8: of Islamic Councils that have really been fighting against this,
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Speaker 8: and they actually cited in a submission to the Law
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Speaker 8: Reform Commission that they were concerned about free speech. I
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Speaker 8: just want everyone to remember that the next time the
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Speaker 8: term Islamophobic gets thrown around, whenever there's a critique of
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Speaker 8: some aspect of Islam ideology, or of hate preachers, or
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Speaker 8: of the depiction of the prophet Muhammad, remember that free
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Speaker 8: speech seems to be suddenly very important to these groups.
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Speaker 2: I won't forget, Caroline, I can promise you. Let's go
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Speaker 2: to another issue for Labour today. Opposition now from the
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Speaker 2: Master Builders Association about Labour's fee free tafe plan. Now,
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Speaker 2: this will be a big issue during the campaign camp
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Speaker 2: because housing is front and center. The Industry Body says
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Speaker 2: that while they're supportive of the principal intent of the bill,
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Speaker 2: they think the legislation is unnecessary and would have an
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Speaker 2: unintended impact. This is a big issue, as I said
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Speaker 2: in the campaign, and when you've got the Industry Body
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Speaker 2: out against you, not good.
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Speaker 7: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: They call this the shuffling of the decks, essentially, Peter
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Speaker 5: arguing that this is enshrining fee free tafe, it would
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Speaker 5: disadvantage private colleges, it would be bad for competition, and
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Speaker 5: the nub of the issue for them really is that
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Speaker 5: they're not seeing an increase to the number of tradees
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Speaker 5: that are coming online to build the houses. That's the
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Speaker 5: core at this issue. They argue that yes, okay, even
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Speaker 5: if free free tape does work as advertised, which at
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Speaker 5: the moment, the Industry Body argues, there's no statistics to
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Speaker 5: firm that up, given that still it's early in the process,
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Speaker 5: that there have been some early indications that the completion
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Speaker 5: rate is somewhere between two thirds and half. That all
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Speaker 5: go all the way through to finish that qualification. They
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Speaker 5: want to see put simply a boost to the number
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Speaker 5: of tradees. Now we're not getting that at this stage,
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Speaker 5: at least not to the satisfaction of many of the
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Speaker 5: builders who tell us that we need to get more
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Speaker 5: in the pipeline. So that's the question, Peter. Do we
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Speaker 5: have to start looking to bring more people in from
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Speaker 5: overseas well. There's been a reluctance on both sides for that.
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Speaker 5: So the simple bottom line is we need more tradees
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Speaker 5: and how they get them. I guess people that are
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Speaker 5: looking to buy a house that don't really care where
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Speaker 5: they come from.
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Speaker 2: Garrett, poor Old just quickly poor odds INNY commuters on
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Speaker 2: again off again industrial action. We find out today that
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Speaker 2: the union involved here has donated about seven hundred thousand
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Speaker 2: dollars to New South Wold labor Any wonder poor old
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Speaker 2: commuters are upset.
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Speaker 8: Look, it's pretty awkward for the New South Wales government.
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Speaker 8: It's received six hundred and ninety thousand dollars in donations
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Speaker 8: from this rail union over the past decade. The same
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Speaker 8: rail union that's been holding New South Wales citizens to ransom.
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Speaker 2: For the past few weeks.
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Speaker 8: It almost threatened to derail, so to speak, New Year's
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Speaker 8: Eve here in Sydney. Now, this whole matter is going
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Speaker 8: to the Fairwork Commission. But this perception at least of
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Speaker 8: a potential conflict of interest and receiving all these donations,
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Speaker 8: well that's angered the government. Any accusation of that. They're saying, oh,
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Speaker 8: this is just analysis from a liberal think tank, but
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Speaker 8: they don't really have any other comeback to that. It's
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Speaker 8: also come out in this analysis, Peter, that the union
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Speaker 8: gave received rather more than three hundred and sixty thousand
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Speaker 8: dollars from the state super stc meaning we're also being
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Speaker 8: held ransom by a union that's being paid for with
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Speaker 8: many of ours supers. So look, the whole thing stinks,
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Speaker 8: and no doubt it's It's not the end of the
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Speaker 8: story by a long shot.
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Speaker 2: I think this is an invitation to that liberal think
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Speaker 2: tank to go and find us more examples, particularly with
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Speaker 2: the federal campaigner, where the links between industry superfunds and
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Speaker 2: unions and the Labor Party and unfanciful. They're all there
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Speaker 2: by disclosures. So it's real money. We'll keep that going.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for your time, both of you. All right, let's
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Speaker 2: stay with domestic politics. Big move today by the Coalition
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Speaker 2: to show up the government's lack of action on anti
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Speaker 2: Semitism terrorism, drawing a line in the sam Peter Dutton
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Speaker 2: announced today that if elected, he would bring in mandatary
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Speaker 2: minimum sentences for anti Semitic terror attacks. Joining me now
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Speaker 2: the Shadow in General, Senator Michadia Cash. Well, viewers, we'll
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Speaker 2: have seen a breakdown of what the Coalition is proposing, Senator,
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Speaker 2: But in practical terms, how will these laws be applied
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Speaker 2: with regards to the sort of terror attacks we've seen
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Speaker 2: so recently.
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Speaker 3: Well, Peter.
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Speaker 9: In the first instance, what we are saying is if
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Speaker 9: you commit an act of terrorism in Australia, if you
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Speaker 9: are found to be preparing to commit an active terrorism
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Speaker 9: in Australia, you should, at the very least base a
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Speaker 9: mandatory minimum penalty. I think many would be surprised to
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Speaker 9: know that there is no mandatory minimum penalty. So Peter
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Speaker 9: Dutton has said we will take the toughest approach possible
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Speaker 9: and introduce a six year mandatory minimum penalty. The example being,
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Speaker 9: of course, the fire bobbing of the Ades Synagogue. This
21:50
Speaker 9: is an act of terrorism. The people found responsible for
21:55
Speaker 9: it under our laws would be subjected to a minimum
21:59
Speaker 9: of six years behind bars, but more than that. For example,
22:03
Speaker 9: if you were caught on your way with the accelerant
22:06
Speaker 9: or the admission device to commit the active terrorism the
22:10
Speaker 9: firebombing of a synagogue, again you would face a minimum
22:14
Speaker 9: of six years behind bars. And as I said, I
22:18
Speaker 9: think viewers will be surprised to know currently there's no
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Speaker 9: mandatory minimum. Always saying is you commit an active terrorism,
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Speaker 9: you plan an act, it's six years behind bars at.
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Speaker 2: Least, Senator, we know labours sent to your counterpart, Attendager
22:34
Speaker 2: or Mark Drapers off to Israel to try and mend
22:36
Speaker 2: the bridges. But it doesn't look like it's going well.
22:40
Speaker 2: The Israeli Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs so very senior
22:44
Speaker 2: politician Sharon Heskel. She's leaves labors ongoing campaign against Israel
22:48
Speaker 2: to the rise of anti Semitism. Here that we know
22:52
Speaker 2: is in the headlines around the world. Now. The pen
22:55
Speaker 2: was asked about this today. This is what he had
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Speaker 2: to say.
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Speaker 6: Well, Australia voted in the United Nations, along with one
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Speaker 6: hundred and fifty eight countries. We voted for a ceasefire
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Speaker 6: that is now in place. We wanted to see hostages released,
23:13
Speaker 6: and I welcome the fact that today the hostages have
23:16
Speaker 6: begun to be released.
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Speaker 2: Hasker was scathing Michaulia and the PM tried hard to
23:24
Speaker 2: sort of dance around that issue today or what was
23:27
Speaker 2: your read of her comments.
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Speaker 9: I don't think even I know anymore with this man's
23:32
Speaker 9: stands on antisemitism, other than his government is responsible for
23:38
Speaker 9: the rise of antisemitism in Australia. And I think the
23:40
Speaker 9: Deputy Israeli Foreignman called it as it is. That was
23:45
Speaker 9: an indictment on mister Albanese. It was an embarrassment for Australia.
23:49
Speaker 2: But more than.
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Speaker 9: That doesn't matter what mister Albanese sees. He needs to
23:53
Speaker 9: be judged on his actions and his actions or should
23:57
Speaker 9: I say lack of action, clearly show his government. They
24:02
Speaker 9: are responsible for the rise in anti Semitism in Australia.
24:05
Speaker 9: Their stance in the United Nations has undermined our relationship
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Speaker 9: with our great friend Israel. But you do love this, Peter.
24:13
Speaker 9: They send the Attorney General of Australia, the man who
24:17
Speaker 9: has refused to rule out arresting Prime Minister Netanyahoo if
24:22
Speaker 9: he was to come to Australia because of the International
24:25
Speaker 9: Criminal Court warrants that are against him. I mean, it
24:28
Speaker 9: is totally laughable that mister Dreyfus thinks that he can
24:32
Speaker 9: in any way mend a relationship that he's partly responsible for.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that really struck me last week
24:42
Speaker 2: with the ceasefire deal being negotigated and the release of
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Speaker 2: imprison Palestinian terrorists as part of this deal, they are
24:52
Speaker 2: required under the deal to be repatriated or to leave
24:55
Speaker 2: to move to a third country. A lot of concern
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Speaker 2: by your colleague Julie and Lisa that they could end
25:02
Speaker 2: up in Australia, given the track record of this government,
25:06
Speaker 2: is demanded that the Prime Minister rule out that any
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Speaker 2: of these convicted palacity and terrorists come to Australia in
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Speaker 2: any way, shape or form. What's the latest.
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Speaker 9: Here, Well, you won't be surprised to know that there
25:21
Speaker 9: is no update from the Prime Minister. I would have
25:24
Speaker 9: thought it would have been a pretty clear we rule
25:27
Speaker 9: out any terrorist or Palestinian terrorist ever coming to this country,
25:33
Speaker 9: because I can tell you under Peter Dutton there won't
25:36
Speaker 9: even be a looking, there will be no consideration. Our
25:40
Speaker 9: policy is very very clear. You are not in any
25:44
Speaker 9: way ever coming anywhere near Australia, and quite frankly, shame
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Speaker 9: on our Prime minister for being unable to just articulate
25:55
Speaker 9: what I would have thought Australians would say is a
25:57
Speaker 9: pretty basic answer that should speak volumes. God forbid, Australia
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Speaker 9: has a government that is Anthony Albanizi in minority with
26:08
Speaker 9: the Australian Greens.
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Speaker 2: What I expect the camera press pack troubling with the
26:15
Speaker 2: Prime Minister at these sort of daily announcements, to be
26:17
Speaker 2: putting him under the pressure with real questions on this tomorrow,
26:21
Speaker 2: Senator Cash, thank you for after rate will go live
26:24
Speaker 2: to tell Aviv jubilant scenes of course, with those three
26:27
Speaker 2: hostages return to their families. But given that three Israelis
26:31
Speaker 2: for nearly one hundred Palestinian prisoners hardly seems a fair deal. Thus,
26:35
Speaker 2: a bit later on the Albanizier government through that two
26:38
Speaker 2: billion dollars at their green energy dreams. What's that mean
26:42
Speaker 2: for Teal and green vote buy? Welcome back to the calm.
26:51
Speaker 2: The push by Australia's official classification agency to go back
26:55
Speaker 2: and edit old books and movies to make sure they
26:57
Speaker 2: don't offend we thought Warren woke was being one, didn't
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Speaker 2: we the first after being held captive for well over
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Speaker 2: a year fifteen months. In fact, today finally three Israeli
27:08
Speaker 2: hostages were returned to their families. Now I can't imagine
27:12
Speaker 2: few of us can the horrors that Emily romy and
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Speaker 2: Deron must have lived through during their four hundred and
27:19
Speaker 2: seventy one days of captivity for the hands of Humas terrorists. However,
27:24
Speaker 2: we can't have a look the fact that at the
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Speaker 2: same time ninety Palestinian terrorist prisoners also walked free, with
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Speaker 2: more set to be freed as well. Joining me in
27:34
Speaker 2: our live from Tel Aviv as Arson Ostrowsky, the CEO
27:38
Speaker 2: of the International Legal Forum and senior fellow at the
27:41
Speaker 2: Misgav Institute for National Security, Arson, thank you for your time.
27:47
Speaker 2: A huge day for every Israeli and every supporter of
27:51
Speaker 2: Israel two around the world. Here on Sky News in particular,
27:55
Speaker 2: we have tried to stand in solidarity with you throughout
27:58
Speaker 2: the horrors of the last fifteen months. What's been the
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Speaker 2: reaction of the release that they throw women today in Israel?
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Speaker 7: It's really quite incredible scenes. On the one hand, yesterday
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Speaker 7: I think there was a sense of relief, a sense
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Speaker 7: of joy and jubilation. After four hundred and seventy one days,
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Speaker 7: these girls, Emily Rommy Darn were finally coming home, after
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Speaker 7: what can only be described as pure hell. I stood
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Speaker 7: there yesterday with so many others at Televid's Hostage Square,
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Speaker 7: which has become now synonymous with the congregation of boasts
28:34
Speaker 7: and soldarity. The hostages and essentially an entire nation stood still,
28:39
Speaker 7: the collective breadth, waiting for these girls to be home,
28:43
Speaker 7: in the hand of the idea, then finally in the
28:46
Speaker 7: hands of the loved ones. But we know these are
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Speaker 7: difficult days ahead. And as you said, ninety Palestinian terrorists
28:52
Speaker 7: were released, many more will be released, and we also
28:55
Speaker 7: have many more hostages still in captivity which need to
28:58
Speaker 7: come out urgently.
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Speaker 2: What concerns made I was just talking to the Australian
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Speaker 2: Shadow Attorney generals on the opposition side of politics. There's
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Speaker 2: no confirmation from our Prime Minister here in Australia that
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Speaker 2: we will oppose any of these Palestinians ending up in Australia.
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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about their likely destination?
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Speaker 7: Look that really that depends on a number of different
29:29
Speaker 7: calculations and who these terrorists are and some again, I think,
29:33
Speaker 7: well seth to underscore. Some have called this a prisoner exchange.
29:37
Speaker 7: This is not a prisoner exchange. That the Israelis coming
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Speaker 7: out of hostages are women, children, the elderly, the wounded,
29:43
Speaker 7: the Palestinians that are coming out are convicted terrorists and
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Speaker 7: murderers with the blood on their hands. Some will go Overseas.
29:54
Speaker 7: Many of them will not go into Gaza, some will.
29:57
Speaker 7: It really depends on who they are, the nature of
29:59
Speaker 7: the crimes, the nature of their convictions. But certainly no
30:03
Speaker 7: one wants to see these terrorists out. But unfortunately Israel
30:07
Speaker 7: had no option. We had to make literally a deal
30:10
Speaker 7: with the devil in order to get our love goes out.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I can't begrudge what you did know and
30:18
Speaker 2: can I mean? I work for the Prime Minister during
30:21
Speaker 2: the time of Islamic State and was privy to some
30:24
Speaker 2: security briefings in relation to the women who were seized
30:28
Speaker 2: about Islam as terrorists at that time, and if I
30:32
Speaker 2: even think about what I was told, I'd be in
30:34
Speaker 2: tears on TV tonight. How is this going to change
30:38
Speaker 2: the way that Israel governed into the future, how it
30:41
Speaker 2: sees its security situation, Because for years, you've been under
30:44
Speaker 2: pressure from the international community to bend into yield and
30:50
Speaker 2: look where that got you. What happens here in a
30:53
Speaker 2: geopolitical sense next.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's a good question, you know. I think had
30:58
Speaker 7: Israel yielded and bended the demand and international community, including
31:01
Speaker 7: by the way, Australia who and Penny Wong who called
31:05
Speaker 7: in Israel not to go into Rafa, and Rafa is
31:07
Speaker 7: where we've found a number of hostages. It's where the
31:11
Speaker 7: Hamas lady Aya Sinong was taken out. So I think
31:14
Speaker 7: Israel listened to the international community and wielded and bended
31:18
Speaker 7: to the will. I think the situation been far more drastic,
31:22
Speaker 7: far more servinative, and is today. But I think there's
31:25
Speaker 7: really lessons that have been learned. Israel is no longer
31:28
Speaker 7: sitting ivy by Israel is taking a very proactive stance
31:32
Speaker 7: against these terrorists, which seen what Israel has done to
31:37
Speaker 7: eliminate arch terrists like the Ismael Hania in Iran mas
31:41
Speaker 7: Bala leader israela. We saw the pager attacks, so is
31:45
Speaker 7: all certainly not taking orders from anyone and in Israel,
31:49
Speaker 7: like any serve nation like Australia would by the way,
31:51
Speaker 7: as well as taking word of action necessary in order
31:53
Speaker 7: to defend itself and to rescue its citizens from absolute health.
31:59
Speaker 2: Well, I hope we would ask them, but I'm not
32:02
Speaker 2: entirely convinced with the current regime. Your deputy Foreign Minister
32:08
Speaker 2: was scathing about the Labor government here and the connection
32:11
Speaker 2: that she feels is patently obvious between Labour's change in
32:17
Speaker 2: rhetoric and positioned at the United Nations about Israel and
32:21
Speaker 2: a horrific increase in anti Semitic attacks in this country.
32:26
Speaker 2: Is that a fair comment? Do you think?
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Speaker 7: I think she was probably being even far too diplomatic
32:32
Speaker 7: to be honest, and in my opinion, you know, I
32:35
Speaker 7: heard Prime Minis ALBANIZI talk about the relief of the
32:39
Speaker 7: hostages finally coming back to Israel. But we'll sort to
32:43
Speaker 7: remember that the Albanesi government also voted against the Israel
32:47
Speaker 7: at the United Nations in the resolution that would have
32:49
Speaker 7: abandoned the hostages, and I made absolutely no linkage between
32:53
Speaker 7: any proposes fire and the hostages. In fact, the resolution
32:56
Speaker 7: didn't even mention her mus matter. I've also seen the
32:59
Speaker 7: Spreading government refused to confirm that they would not abide
33:03
Speaker 7: by these outrageous icc warrants. We've seen resumption of funding
33:07
Speaker 7: an UNRA and of course anti Semitism raging unabated. So unfortunately,
33:12
Speaker 7: what had for many years been a very strong and
33:14
Speaker 7: principled by partisan support of Israel would appear that this
33:19
Speaker 7: under this Labor government. It's sadly Australia has abandoned it's
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Speaker 7: ally and in its time of need.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'll let you know that that's just the Australian government.
33:31
Speaker 2: The Australian people, i think broadly across the country stand
33:35
Speaker 2: with you and the opposition and Scott News. As I said, Arsenostrovsky,
33:38
Speaker 2: thank you for your time. Well, that's ity of the
33:41
Speaker 2: United States now where they are awaiting door. In the
33:44
Speaker 2: day of Donald Trump's second inauguration as US President, the
33:48
Speaker 2: ceremony has been moved indoors, the first time since Reagan's
33:52
Speaker 2: second swearing in back in nineteen eighty five. They say
33:55
Speaker 2: due to freezing temperatures. Here's Chris Kenny from with that
33:59
Speaker 2: from from Washington, d C with the latest.
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Speaker 10: Peter, good to talk to you. It is bitterly cold
34:07
Speaker 10: here in Washington, d C. It's minus four degrees now.
34:10
Speaker 10: Later in the day when the inaugurations underway. It could
34:13
Speaker 10: be minus ten, which of course is why the event
34:16
Speaker 10: is now going to be inside the Capital in the
34:18
Speaker 10: road tunder under that splendid dome you see behind me,
34:22
Speaker 10: and why there's going to be a rally really at
34:24
Speaker 10: the Capitol One Arena like there was today rather than
34:27
Speaker 10: the normal inauguration parade. There's massive security in this town.
34:31
Speaker 10: There are police on every corner. There are bollards and
34:35
Speaker 10: barriers all around the town keeping people away from parliamentary buildings,
34:39
Speaker 10: all sorts of offices, all all sorts of establishments along
34:43
Speaker 10: the mall and along Pennsylvania Avenue. There's even army trucks
34:46
Speaker 10: blocking off some road. So security is obviously a focus.
34:50
Speaker 10: But the big issue today was course, was Donald Trump's
34:53
Speaker 10: victory rally. This bloke is amazing. He gets up there
34:57
Speaker 10: and he just holds court with his full stadium people
34:59
Speaker 10: that lined up four hours in the cold, in the sleet,
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Speaker 10: in the threatening snow, five or six hours just to
35:07
Speaker 10: get in there and hear Donald Trump. They are the
35:09
Speaker 10: most loyal supporters in the world. But the bottom line
35:12
Speaker 10: with Donald Trump is he says that he's going to
35:14
Speaker 10: hit the ground running, He's going to shake things up
35:17
Speaker 10: on tariffs, on border control and on the Middle East.
35:20
Speaker 10: From day one, he's already changing the world order. And
35:23
Speaker 10: after midday today Washington time, look out for Donald Trump
35:28
Speaker 10: two point.
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Speaker 2: Zero brilliant Chris. I'm told this something like one hundred
35:35
Speaker 2: executive orders about to be signed. Sitting there ready to go.
35:38
Speaker 2: Shock and all day one is how they're selling it. Chris,
35:41
Speaker 2: of course, will be in DC all week. Don't forget
35:43
Speaker 2: to tune into sky News bright nearly tomorrow morning three
35:46
Speaker 2: a m full courage of the President Alex inauguration. Former
35:51
Speaker 2: White House Chief stuff Nick Bolvaan is also going to
35:53
Speaker 2: join me here tomorrow night. And I've got a few
35:55
Speaker 2: friends inside all the parties and the Trump events, so
35:59
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring you a good sense of the mood,
36:02
Speaker 2: the party mood in the US capital all right after
36:04
Speaker 2: the break, sad irony of labour subsidizing, the varying jobs
36:08
Speaker 2: that adds. Green energy policies are designed to destroy p's
36:12
Speaker 2: the end of diversity, equity and inclusion. Is it really over?
36:17
Speaker 2: Alex Antique coming out, welcome back to the calm we
36:23
Speaker 2: sit their return to the long lunch. That's what the
36:26
Speaker 2: coalition plans. It's all about helping small business get back
36:30
Speaker 2: on their feet. I'll take you through the details of
36:32
Speaker 2: that in the moment, but first let's go back to
36:34
Speaker 2: the Labour's two billion dollar cash splash to shift Australia's
36:38
Speaker 2: four operational aluminum smelters to renewables. Fair amount of backlash
36:44
Speaker 2: already over concerns that renewables won't be able to provide
36:46
Speaker 2: the reliable base load necessary to keep our smelters going,
36:50
Speaker 2: not to mention the cruel irony that it's Labour's green
36:53
Speaker 2: policies that's made them costly unless reliable in the first place.
36:58
Speaker 2: Joining me in our Environment editor for The Australian Graham
37:01
Speaker 2: Lloyd Well Graham Taxpayers hasn't made the point at the
37:04
Speaker 2: top of the show. I've already been shelling out hundreds
37:06
Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. In addition to this two billion
37:10
Speaker 2: and another thirteen billion out of the fusion made Australia policy.
37:14
Speaker 2: They've spent hundreds of billions of dollars to subsidize the
37:18
Speaker 2: power bills of these smelters. Now more money today. Any
37:24
Speaker 2: wonder they're frustrated, isn't.
37:25
Speaker 11: It that dry good eything? Pet Well? This really confirms
37:30
Speaker 11: everything that we've always known about the net zero transition,
37:34
Speaker 11: and that is the big trade Exposed industries like aluminum
37:39
Speaker 11: can't afford to stay in Australia unless they're given a
37:43
Speaker 11: public subsidy to do so. Obstensibly this is a subsidy
37:49
Speaker 11: to reduce their cost of power, but it does nothing
37:52
Speaker 11: about reducing the cost of power overall in the system.
37:56
Speaker 11: In fact, if anything, there's going to be another layer
37:58
Speaker 11: of subsidies given to renewable projects to provide the power
38:03
Speaker 11: to them. So really it's just a cascading mess as
38:07
Speaker 11: you've described, and really it's paying more money to keep
38:13
Speaker 11: something we've already got.
38:17
Speaker 2: What about the operational engineering issues with renewables and these smelters.
38:23
Speaker 2: When I went to the Portland smelter, I've been to
38:25
Speaker 2: Tommicgo as well. I mean they are very hungry in
38:29
Speaker 2: terms of the intensive energy required to heat metals to
38:34
Speaker 2: the temperatures required. Can they work with renewables.
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Speaker 11: Well, I think this is where a lot of money
38:43
Speaker 11: is being invested to work out how they can. The
38:47
Speaker 11: energy requirement of them is quite extraordinary. In fact, today
38:51
Speaker 11: I saw the Aluminium Association saying the energy needed to
38:55
Speaker 11: power the aluminium industry was the same as the entire
39:00
Speaker 11: requirement of South Australia and Tasmania. So in the past
39:04
Speaker 11: it's always been that they need an uninterrupted supply of
39:08
Speaker 11: power because you can't have the metal losing power halfway
39:13
Speaker 11: through the process and freezing in the potlines. They're now
39:17
Speaker 11: looking at ways to guarantee those powers to do smelts
39:22
Speaker 11: and be able to turn the power requirements down in
39:26
Speaker 11: times when the grid doesn't have it. But this is
39:29
Speaker 11: all adding to the costs of something that used to
39:31
Speaker 11: be a pretty straightforward industrial process, and that's why it's
39:36
Speaker 11: so fraught, and.
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Speaker 2: We need it of course to feed into all the
39:41
Speaker 2: other big industry manufacturing here in Australia. We need it
39:44
Speaker 2: for defense, sovereignty. I could go on. That's why it matters.
39:47
Speaker 2: It's not just about what we think we use aluminium
39:51
Speaker 2: for in this country. It's all the other things. Talk
39:54
Speaker 2: to you about LNG because this talk that we're going
39:56
Speaker 2: to have to start importing LNG as early as next
40:02
Speaker 2: year to deal with gas shortages in Victoria. Now, now
40:06
Speaker 2: this is not so. We are one of the world's largest,
40:08
Speaker 2: biggest exporters of LNG around the world, yet we're going
40:13
Speaker 2: to have to import it back a massive cost because
40:17
Speaker 2: we're running short in our own country.
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Speaker 11: That's try Peter, and this is the mismatch between where
40:24
Speaker 11: we're producing the gas and where we need it for
40:27
Speaker 11: our own industry. So gas is going out of Gladstone
40:31
Speaker 11: in Queensland and we have a shortfall in New South
40:34
Speaker 11: Wales and Victoria. It's been moodered for some time that
40:38
Speaker 11: we may have to if we don't exploit gas reserves
40:42
Speaker 11: in those states have an import terminal. And the great
40:45
Speaker 11: irony is that the person at the front of the
40:48
Speaker 11: queue to import it is Andrew Forrest, who spends half
40:52
Speaker 11: his life railing against the evils of fossil fuels, and
40:55
Speaker 11: reports today say, look, the only way he's really going
40:59
Speaker 11: to do it is if he gets a government subsidy
41:01
Speaker 11: to bring the gas here and guarantees of supply. So
41:05
Speaker 11: the whole thing is messed up and reflects a bigger
41:09
Speaker 11: mess in the gas production and use industry in general.
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Speaker 2: Oh you surprised me. Another billionaire wanting a subsidy from
41:18
Speaker 2: the poor old taxpayer. Goodness me, I'll leave it there,
41:22
Speaker 2: thank you, Graham. All right, just before we head of
41:24
Speaker 2: the break, you know, the New souther world Lives have
41:26
Speaker 2: been in a bit of trouble. They're trying to reset.
41:29
Speaker 2: They had that big review and obviously they're in sort
41:32
Speaker 2: of an administration and sorts well, they might be turning
41:35
Speaker 2: the corner. They've got a big launch tonight to grow
41:38
Speaker 2: their membership base and to focus back on Liberal Party values.
41:43
Speaker 2: Here's a sneak peak of the ad that's being launched
41:46
Speaker 2: with members.
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Speaker 11: We believe in those most basic freedoms of parliamentary democracy,
41:52
Speaker 11: the freedom of thought, worship, speech and association.
41:56
Speaker 2: If you share our beliefs, joining us. There you go.
42:01
Speaker 2: There's a little bit of the ad. As I said,
42:03
Speaker 2: it's focusing on the values of the Liberal Party. Allelujah.
42:06
Speaker 2: Right after break? Are we witnessing the end of diversity,
42:09
Speaker 2: equity and inclusion programs? Are we really abandoning woke agendas?
42:15
Speaker 2: Plus talk of classic films being canceled in Australia? More
42:20
Speaker 2: on that too, Fred, more issues. I want to get
42:28
Speaker 2: you across and do that now. Bringing my panel, Liberal
42:31
Speaker 2: Senator for South Australia alex Antique and Liberal MP from
42:34
Speaker 2: sas Well, James Stevens. Gents, welcome, let's go to diversity inclusion.
42:39
Speaker 2: We're seeing the things move the right way. In the
42:42
Speaker 2: United States, we've got BETA and others pulling back from
42:46
Speaker 2: DEI programs in the way of Donald Trump's re election.
42:50
Speaker 2: The trend they say will come to Australia. I don't know, Alexantik,
42:55
Speaker 2: what do you think.
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Speaker 12: Well, I hope so, Peter. I mean, we saw the FBI,
43:01
Speaker 12: I think, shut down their DEI officed last week as well,
43:06
Speaker 12: and used to say, you know, when the United States sneezes,
43:08
Speaker 12: Australia catches the cold, let's hope it's right in this instance.
43:11
Speaker 12: I don't see that evidence just yet. I've spent the
43:13
Speaker 12: better part of the last year and a bit grilling
43:17
Speaker 12: department heads in Senate estimates about this issue, as well
43:20
Speaker 12: as a whole range of others, and being kind of
43:23
Speaker 12: almost underwhelmed by some of the responses and the justification.
43:26
Speaker 12: I simply put the question to them on many occasions,
43:28
Speaker 12: your department has a DEI policy, why it's in my view,
43:33
Speaker 12: fairly corrosive agenda, and which would be picking the best
43:35
Speaker 12: people for the jobs. In the case of Australia Posts,
43:38
Speaker 12: we were told it was because they had diverse communities
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Speaker 12: out there, and you know, therefore they needed a diverse workforce,
43:45
Speaker 12: which sort of presupposes that a person of a certain
43:47
Speaker 12: ethnicity will only post their letters to a person of
43:50
Speaker 12: a certain ethnicity. So it's well and truly on the clock.
43:53
Speaker 12: Time has been up for this for a long period
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Speaker 12: of time. The Trump effect is going to be real.
43:57
Speaker 12: Let's hope it's real. In terms of DEI.
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Speaker 2: James, your boss has announced that he wants small business
44:05
Speaker 2: to get the FBT changes to help them kickstart their
44:10
Speaker 2: business's post COVID, So taxpayer funded lunches are back on
44:14
Speaker 2: the table for small business. Tell us why this is important.
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Speaker 13: Well, Peter, unfortunately under labor, the hospitality sector are on
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Speaker 13: their knees. We've seen the ACIC insolvency data show that
44:29
Speaker 13: in that sector insolvency is up by seventy percent. So
44:33
Speaker 13: they're really struggling under labor. They need a bit of help.
44:36
Speaker 13: And this is the sort of policy that will see
44:38
Speaker 13: businesses with the turnover up to ten million dollars be
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Speaker 13: able to spend some money in the local hospitality businesses,
44:46
Speaker 13: put a bit of a shot back in the arm
44:48
Speaker 13: to them, give them the support that they need. And
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Speaker 13: I think it's a good sensible measure that will see
44:54
Speaker 13: economic stimulus and also see businesses put in a position
44:58
Speaker 13: where they can invest in their local economy. And I
45:00
Speaker 13: think they want to do that, and this shows them
45:02
Speaker 13: that a liberal national government wants to support them to
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Speaker 13: do that.
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Speaker 2: Talk to me about the Australian Classification Board ALEX, because
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Speaker 2: they currently exist. They classify everything we watch and read
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Speaker 2: and see, of course, but now I want special powers
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Speaker 2: to enable them to censor old films, TV shows, books etc.
45:26
Speaker 2: They say they want them to be brought into line
45:28
Speaker 2: with ever evolving community standards. And if this goes ahead,
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Speaker 2: that'll give them the right to go back through old
45:36
Speaker 2: films etc. Every ten years and then change them. So
45:41
Speaker 2: nothing to stop them getting hold of say Gone with
45:43
Speaker 2: the Wind every ten years and updating it to reflect
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Speaker 2: the values. So they say of the community at the time,
45:51
Speaker 2: what do you think of this one?
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Speaker 12: Well, look, I mean, on one measure, it's never a
45:58
Speaker 12: bad thing to have a review. That's all fine and good,
46:01
Speaker 12: But the question is for what reason. I mean, I
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Speaker 12: would actually prefer the Classification Board to spend more time
46:06
Speaker 12: looking at the scourge of inappropriate books that are in
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Speaker 12: our kids libraries in schoolrooms, and many of them are
46:12
Speaker 12: just beyond belief, I have to say. So we don't
46:16
Speaker 12: seem to see as much energy put into that as
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Speaker 12: we would to this. And I've, you know, for the
46:20
Speaker 12: longest time, been concerned about cancel culture. I think it's
46:23
Speaker 12: we have to be careful not to do that. The
46:25
Speaker 12: movies that are coming out of Hollywood at the moment,
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Speaker 12: by the way, and not much to write home about.
46:28
Speaker 12: I tend not to watch anything after nineteen ninety five
46:30
Speaker 12: if I can help it. So this won't help that.
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Speaker 12: And you know, I think we just need to be
46:36
Speaker 12: clear about this. One of the things, of course, is
46:38
Speaker 12: that kids need to see some of the stereotypes and
46:41
Speaker 12: some of the cultural trends from a bygone era to
46:44
Speaker 12: understand what's you know, what's right and what's wrong and
46:47
Speaker 12: make up their own minds. So I have no time
46:49
Speaker 12: for cancelation. If that's what's that's what's being provoked here,
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Speaker 12: And I'd rather see the classification Board concentrating on real
46:57
Speaker 12: issues at the moment, like the sort of books that
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Speaker 12: are in our library that kids are seeing.
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Speaker 2: Right, let's go to data that's come out today revealing
47:05
Speaker 2: former prisoners are getting crisis payments faster than victims fleeing
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Speaker 2: domestic violence. Now, Services Australia, which is the human services
47:16
Speaker 2: government body that passes out these tax foray funded payments.
47:20
Speaker 2: They've got a two day target. If you're a prisoner,
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Speaker 2: they are hitting that target ninety six percent of the time,
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Speaker 2: But if you're someone fleeing domestic violence thirty four percent
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Speaker 2: of the time. James, what's going on here?
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Speaker 13: Well, I'd love to know, Peter. It's a complete disgrace.
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Speaker 13: The government have got their priorities completely the wrong way
47:43
Speaker 13: around if they're prioritizing prisoners over victims of domestic violence. Now,
47:48
Speaker 13: let's not forget that under this Albanesi government, they've increased
47:51
Speaker 13: the size of the public sector by thirty six thousand people.
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Speaker 13: Ten percent of them are in the department that your reference.
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Speaker 13: So I'd love to know what all these new people
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Speaker 13: are doing when the data on their performance is going backwards.
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Speaker 13: And if they have to choose between processing a request
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Speaker 13: from someone fleeing an abusive relationship as opposed to someone
48:13
Speaker 13: that's just been let out of jail, I know which
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Speaker 13: one I'd be choosing.
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Speaker 2: Not wrong. For all the talk about domestic violence, it's
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Speaker 2: pretty hollow, Thank you, gentlemen. See you soon, all right, Everyone,
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Speaker 2: make sure you stay all their glued disguise till three
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Speaker 2: a m. I'll catch up again tomorrow night. Here is
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Speaker 2: Andrew