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A human rights movement full of degenerates? HBR Talk 295 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Hello, and welcome to a human rights movement full of degenerates and one incompetent
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  talk show host. I am your host, Hannah Wallen here with nonsense annihilator
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  Laren Brooks and the personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson. And tonight we're going to
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  continue our look at an article that purports to characterize us totally, completely and
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  top of the page. And with that out of the way, so we're
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  going to continue with the article that we started last week. And last week
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  we ended at men's rights activism, and we kind of it was the end
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  of the show and we're looking at it, and we still had quite a
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  bit to go in the article at that point and didn't want to keep going
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  and going and going, so we called it. So I'm going to reread
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  that paragraph and apologies to everybody if I sound off tonight dealing with an allergic
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  reaction to an accidental ingestion of mold this morning. So, but in any
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  case, did you eat no wed tasting? Actually I am allergic to that
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  though, Oh thank god, that is hard stuff. I don't know how
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  people enjoy that. I wasn't I don't love Yeah, I wasn't allergic to
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  it to adulthood. So I I just it's one of those allergies I discovered
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  at work had a salad with blue cheese dressing, and I had to spend
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  the rest of the day itching. What happens when I eat mold is I
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  get high. So I'm a happy camper right now, Like I love you
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  guys, I'm here. Then you could you could pull out all my teeth
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  and I could survive that just fine. But I hate itching, yeah,
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  yeah, And and hives are like big old mosquito bites all over your body.
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  So and in the warm, warmest of the warm places. So it's
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  it's it's a fun experience. At least you're not gonna die natural mosquito bites.
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  So yeah, actually almost died from a mosquito bite. That's that's a
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  really disgusting story too, Not as disgusting as the time I thought I was
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  almost dying from food poisoning. I wasn't, I was, I was not
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  in that level of danger. But but I did almost die for it wasn't
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  the mosquito bite. It was the virus the mosquito was carrying. It was
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  still it still sucked, right, but but yeah, so if I'm if
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  I sound off tonight, it is. It is because I'm a little distracted
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  and didn't get any sleep today and I'm tired. So there we go.
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  So the article, let's see and I scrolled up too far for the window
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  that you guys can see and listeners we are let's let me. Let me
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  go ahead and post it. Yeah, copy, and I'll post it in
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  the live show chat so that my co hosts have the link again in it
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  looks like you're clicking on a YouTube video, but there's no YouTube video,
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  and obviously you want to scroll down to the bold text that says men's rights
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  activism in parentheses mr A. And remember that they compared us to Black Lives
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  Matter in All Lives Matter, which I think is funny because the argument that
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  all people are equally valuable and important as human beings is what offends them in
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  both cases, like all people matter equally in terms of real mattering, not
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  what other people might think. And they're offended at the idea that we should
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  have equal compassion for both sexes when there is a disadvantage, and that men
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  aren't immune to the effects of it just because patriarchy. So the paragraph is
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  men's rights activism MRA is to genuine women's struggles. I guess I don't know
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  if they're referring to genuine women or genuine struggles. There genuine women struggles what
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  All Lives Matter or Blue Lives Matter is to the Black liberation movement, or
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  what EWS is to the reservation policy. It attempts to paint men as victims.
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  And just a reminder, we found last year that EWS and the Reservation
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  Policy basically takes a policy that the left wanted to apply the progressive stack to.
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  In I say left, I mean the collectivists, the victim grifters in
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  India wanted to apply the progressive stack to, and instead it was equally applied
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  across the board in terms of you can't discriminate in certain ways, but anyway.
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  It attempts to paint men as victims of power structures and justify the consolidation
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  of male power as self defense. For example, MRA's respond to legitimate calls
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  for criminalizing marital rape by attempting to foil it with the bogie of false rape
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  or dowry cases, or cynically bringing up cases of men being raped by women
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  while ignoring facts of sexual violence committed by men against other men by police and
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  militaries. Is there any other way of bringing up cases of rape other than
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  cynically? Who optimistically brings up cases of rape? What's what does that mean?
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  Rapists and comedians occasionally, but not for real then they get grilled about
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  it in court. I guess genuine women women's struggles advocates. Yeah, it's
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  it's kind of ironic how often Turfs equates trans activists with men's rights activists,
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  even though transrits activists are all feminists like without exception, with vanishingly few exceptions.
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  Is one faction of feminists versus another faction of feminists and they both call
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  each other MRAs in order to discredit each other. Yeah, it's funny,
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  but at the same time it's sad because you have one faction of feminism promoting
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  the idea of trans issues in gender dysphoria as a sort of a cure all
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  for toxic masculinity, which is a thing they made up. So they made
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  up the disease, and then they're promoting as a cure for it something that
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  they have they have perverted and exaggerated and are portraying as something that you can
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  choose to expect sperience rather than something that that is an adverse experience for which
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  uh, transitioning has been the traditional cure right, which it doesn't necessarily cure
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  it, it just treats it. But in any case, you know,
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  at that end, they're not helping anybody, and then at the other end
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  you have them using what their own movement movement is doing to just demonize men.
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  There are a few trans women in the men's rights movement who recognize that
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  hatred and fear of trans women as a as a population, which is a
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  pretty small population, even even with trenders and truons. It's still like even
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  with trans women who are not real trans women, it's still a small population,
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  right, But trans women who actually experience gender dysphoria and use transitioning as
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  a treatment for it, that's an even smaller population. So the number of
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  them that are involved in the men's rights movement is you probably could count them
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  on your on your fingers and toes. And you know, this is a
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  movement of hundreds of thousands. If you look at Reddit, just Reddit alone,
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  We're we're talking hundreds of thousands, you know, subscribe to the Men's
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  Right subreddit who engage in discussion on these topics or read about these topics and
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  and pay attention to what's going on. But you know, they think they
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  can demonize us by association, that's what they'll do. And if they think
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  they can demonize trans women by association, that's what they'll do. Right,
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  trans women in the movement recognized that hatred and fear of them is based in
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  misonry, the belief that they are not women and they are still men.
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  And therefore, any misonry that one would apply to men who are not trans
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  women, it would also be applicable to trans women. And that's why feminists
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  just assume that they're some kind of predator. They're usurping women's privilege, and
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  they're invading women's spaces and it just bothers them. Well, women have been
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  invading men's spaces all of gen x's lives. When I was in high school,
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  I was a journalist, I was a photojournalist, and it was kind
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  of the talk of the sidelines for a while. There were new cases on
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  the subject of women in men's locker rooms, Like twenty years earlier, somebody
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  had sued to get into men's locker rooms as a journalist and specifically and related
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  to in regard to football locker rooms. And one because it was considered a
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  workplace and she was considered a worker that should be going in there because male
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  journalists could go in and interview the football players because they were the same sex
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  as the guys in the locker room. And so once women were allowed to
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  go in and interview men in men's locker rooms, it was kind of only
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  a matter of time before they started accusing the men of hostility, right,
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  And when I was in school, that was happening. There were some allegations
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  of being aggressive, not not in terms of like sexually aggressive, but using
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  nudity and hints of nudity and stuff like that to sort of be socially aggressive,
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  like, oh, yeah, you're gonna be in here while I'm gonna
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  walk through the room naked. Just how do you deal with that? You
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  know, well, it's a locker room, kind of expect that. But
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  the men were men were basically told to cover up in their own nude space
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  because a woman wanted to be in there so that she could do her job
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  in there instead of doing her job outside the locker room. Where Like,
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  if I was getting airvow football players. I would rather either catch them on
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  their way in or on their way out. But but yeah, women invaded
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  men's lives rooms in the seventies and then I've found numerous articles and you know,
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  about women in men's restrooms over time. And there's one where there was
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  a poll. Women answered the question have you ever used the men's restroom because
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  the line was too short or for any other reason, and about half of
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  them said yes. Well, that indicates that they're not afraid of men.
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  They're not intimidated. They know that it's not true when they say that being
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  male makes you a predator. So they're offended by trans status. It's not
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  about it's not about fear, it's about privilege. But yeah, and then
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  there's this. To get back to the paragraph, MRA's respond to legitimate calls
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  for criminalizing marital rate by attempting to foil it. No, we criminalizing marital
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  rape against a woman is already criminalized and has been for a long time,
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  even long before that bullshit law of people talk about in nineteen ninety three was
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  the first time it changed. It's bollocks. In practice, It's never been
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  illegal to rape your wife. It just had a different legal status. The
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  only thing I've heard MRAs point out is that it is still not a crime
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  for a woman to rape a man, especially not if it's her husband.
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  And yet, but here we are in upside downland. I don't know why
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  I'm acting surprised that they're doing this. And then they say while ignoring facts
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  of sexual violence committed by men against other men, and I say, by
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  police and militaries. But they don't bring up prisons. Yeah, that's as
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  far as I know. That's the Joe Rogan defense. It's not, well,
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  yeah, the men do get raped a lot by other men, but
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  that therefore they don't count as victims because it's other men doing it. Right.
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  Well, what's funny about that is if they do bring up prisons,
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  actually, uh, the uh greater perpetrators of sexual misconduct against prisoners, guards
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  and other staff in the prisons, And it happens. We did an episode
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  on this. It happens more often with the female staff because they're they're using
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  a power dynamic where the you can never be sure that the prisoners consented.
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  They can't. They're they're under the power of the staff. The staff can
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  actually make them stay longer in the prison by commenting on their behavior in reports
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  and stuff and and and cating that they are not rehabilitated. So so when
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  when staffers do it. A lot of a lot of the sexual activity between
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  prisoners in a prison setting actually is consensual. Uh, some of it's not,
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  but uh, you know there there's a difference. You can consent to
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  someone that's on the same level as you, that's not using force to force
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  you to consent. That's just you know they're with you, but it's not.
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  It's never valid when someone in a position of power exploits their position in
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  that manner and then you say, well, but this person didn't tell on
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  them, or didn't do this, or didn't do that, and that within
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  within that system, any kind of complaint about anybody in a position of power
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  can result in retaliation that can't be necessarily penalized, can't necessarily be traced.
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  It's sometimes very difficult in an institutional setting, even in an employer setting,
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  to prove retaliation. Like I've been a whistleblower in a job setting more than
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  once and faced retaliation that when someone wants to retaliate you against you, they
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  can be very creative in how they do that. They don't have to they
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  don't have to overtly punish you. They just have to make your life miserable.
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  And it's very easy to do that without engaging in anything that is overt
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  punishment, right, And so that's like I was subject to that more than
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  once, and so you have in a prison setting, it would be even
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  easier. All you all you'd have to do is just start giving somebody right
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  up for bad behavior. In it's so the idea of women raping men is
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  not a bogie. In fact, we just did a show what last earlier
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  this month, just a couple of weeks ago, when we looked into reports
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  of a female perpetrated a sexual misconduct. Then we found that a fairly high
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  percentage of women admitted to exploiting conditions of intoxication or having power over another person,
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  like being in a position of authority or a position of responsibility for another
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  person to get sex. A fairly high percentage of like one in four women
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  admitted to using either some threat of violence, using weapon, using force,
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  use in coercion. It was quite an enlightening set of statistics, actually,
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  and so it's it's actually pretty common, not a boogie. And remember,
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  cock fighting is a victimless crime because it's just roosters killing other roosters. There's
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  no other party involved anywhere in this. So I have no idea why these
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  mra I'm sorry, these are RRAs or I guess cock right activists. You
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  can see the funny parallels there, But I don't know why they're complaining about
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  this. You know, just let the roosters kill each other. It's not
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  like anyone's breeding them or you know, selecting them for the purposes of being
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  strong and aggressive or anything. The same goes for for you know, dogs
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  that were specifically bred to fight each other to the death in pits for gambling
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  profits. It's it's there are no breeders, the breeders to forget about the
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  breeders. That no one's doing that. It's entirely the fault of the owners.
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  This is where the analogy falls down, because this is where you would
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  say it's just dogs dogs fighting other dogs. It's it's not that they've been
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  specifically genetically mutated for the purposes of killing each other. It's it's it's the
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  owners. No, not the people forcing them to fight each other to death
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  in pits. The fucking lady down the street who has a pitbull and and
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  it's a little bit you know, doesn't know how to discipline it. Yeah,
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  this is why I bring these things up every now and again. It's
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  not random. It's because there are certain parallels with how men have been treated
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  by women for a long hours time. And we're not talking we're not even
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  talking thousands of years. We're talking millions actually, because it's kind of evolutionary.
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  But I guess they can't help that either, And we're just here to
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  point out the truth point another point of order on the rape thing. When
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  we you know, I've pointed out the prison issue and how they characterized prison
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  rape. Also pointed out, you know, the the like Mike pointed out,
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  it does matter even if it is other men. There's another issue when
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  you say, oh, it's just other men. There's a pretty high prevalence
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  in the histories of adult sexual predators of having been victimized as children, and
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  in particular, male sexual predators have who prey on women have a history of
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  having been victimized by women when they were children. So female petos maybe don't
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  create the vampire myth, where like all male victims of female petals are going
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  to grow up to be rapists, but it does increase the likelihood it is
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  a a straw on the camel's back, a brick in the wall, you
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  know, whatever. The the the contributing factor to the individual's inability to have
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  compassion instead of adversarial attitude toward toward women, And so you could trace that
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  back to women as well. And then then there's also the marital rape thing.
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  So what feminist based that on is that in some countries and some states
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  of the United States, there were exceptions written into rape law that that basically
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  said, this doesn't apply within a marriage because the stipulation that intoxication disqualified a
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  woman from from consenting to sex assumed that you were talking about a party situation
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  where there wasn't any kind of standing consent or consent couldn't have been given earlier
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  in the night because maybe the couple didn't meet earlier in the night, they
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  met after they began consuming alcohol and their judgment was impaired. But in the
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  context of a marital relationship where sex is happening on a regular basis, being
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  drunk doesn't suddenly make the woman a victim of that or the man married people
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  have sex regularly. Like It's may be a surprise to some people, but
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  we do that. And and intoxication doesn't change our interest in that. It
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  doesn't make us averse to each other. It, you know, unless you
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  know you have are married to somebody who is is violent or mean or or
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  unhygienic when they're drunk, like has an actual problem. But just the fact
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  of having consumed alcohol doesn't suddenly destroy your attraction to the person that you promised
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  to love, honor, cherish, and obey, you know, and I
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  say all four of those because this is only targeted toward women. They really
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  didn't care whether men in marital situations were being coerced. So now you have
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  under the law in a divorce case, a woman can go back and every
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  time that she had sex with her husband while tipsy. You know, maybe
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  they had sex on New Year's Eve, maybe they kissed when the ball dropped
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  and then just continued, especially if they're at home because they've got kids.
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  But yeah, now it's rape right under the law because there is no alcohol
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  exception to the laws that remove the marital exception from rape laws, which is
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  ridiculous. Married people should be able to have sex well drunk. We we
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  know each other and we know each other's minds, we know what we want
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  to do together, and we can communicate to each other. Yeah, I'm
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  gonna start drinking tonight and I don't want to do anything else, So let's
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  not do that, or you know that one does and go from there.
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  It's it's bullshit, and in my opinion, it's a way to break up
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  marriages. Meanwhile, if a man had used physical force to force himself on
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  his way, that's considered battery. And even if there was a rape exception
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  or a marital exception under the law, under rape law in his municipality and
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  his state and his county and his country, whatever the province, doesn't matter,
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  he would still have faced criminal charges. If she filed a complaint with
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  police and said he beat me up to get sex from me, right,
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  that would still have involved beating her up. If he restrained her, held
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  her down, anything like that, that would still involve violence for which he
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  could be prosecuted, and he would be treated more harshly in court if it
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  was sexual. So it is bullshit to say that that exception really mattered,
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  that that exception actually just legalized the behavior because it damn well didn't. But
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  in the meantime, you know, it's it's still it still applies where men
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  are concerned, not necessarily just because of marriage, but because court entities are
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  trans translating even the newest rape laws, where you know, penetration is described
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  and and so on to mean the perpetrator penetrates the victim. So if a
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  man is forced or coerced into penetrative sex where he's the one being enveloped by
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  his rapist, it's not treated as rape. And we covered a story recently.
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  I don't know if we did that on the main show or in the
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  patron show, but we covered a story recently where a woman got away with
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  raping her two year old son because of that here in Ohio. And I'm
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  still working on communicating the letter I wrote. I think I read a letter
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  that I had written to two politicians here in Ohio, and I think i'm
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  I think I've got it to the point where there aren't going to be any
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  changes to it. So you should be looking forward to me at least be
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  hearing back from somebody, because I'm just going to send it to everybody.
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  You're you're supposed to be able to send to your own representatives. But I'm
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  going to send it to like every representative that I can get contact information for
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  uh and and hopefully they'll they'll understand how serious that is that they're they just
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  let this woman off. This is a pedophile that they let off. She's
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  she's literally a child molester, not just a child willis, but her own
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  child. And they just let her off because they don't count it as rape
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  because she forced him to penetrate instead of him forcing her or forcing himself on
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  her, I know, or instead of penetrating him, which why would a
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  woman even need to do that? What does a woman get from penetrating nothing?
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  So, yeah, this this idea of it being a bogie, it's
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  absolute bullshit, and it's kind of self defeating for feminists because again, cases
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  like that, while they don't necessarily automatically translate into a future rapist, they
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  do increase all kinds of metrics in dysfunction, and one of them is a
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  greater likelihood of growing up to be a perpetrator. Kid is also more likely
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  to commit suicide and have all manner of other problems drug problems, alcohol problems,
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  social problems, academic problems work related problems just from that, and is
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  unlikely to get help because you know, the mother got off scot free.
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  So but yeah, we're the bad guys, right for talking about stuff like
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  that, for being concerned about stuff like that, and for not blaming all
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  of the sexual violence that men and boys experience on police and militaries. And
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  the next thing is homophobia and transphobia. Manisphere ideog oh ideologies not ideologues.
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  Manisphere ideologies insist on strict gender binaries. In wish away the existence of gender
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  and sexual diversity. Gender is a made up concept and a bullshit cloud shaped
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  word with no objective meaning that was wished into existence by John Money and the
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  carnival of pseudo scientific child mutilating quacks who've been following his lead ever since.
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  Do not try and Dave. What's on this, youmaniac? And sexual diversity
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  is the same. It's another euphemism on the treadmill for the same thing.
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  I fuck you entirely. Well. Yeah, gender used to refer to if
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  you had a device that that you were putting together and one part had a
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  hole in it and the other part stuck in the hole. The part that
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  had a hole in it was female in the part that's in it was male.
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  But that's that was gender. That was that was it. It didn't
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  apply. It's the same word as gender, is the same word as genre.
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  It's not a coincidence. It's it's the same word. It just means
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  type. But but somebody reversed the R and the E and put a D
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  in there, and then and then and then pretended that human beings have sexual
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  sexual genres like books. Yeah, that was all bullshit and has been from
• 33:06
  the start. That's entirely how the application of it to humans came about.
• 33:14
  Really, like and we used to when we apply that inanimate objects and to
• 33:19
  language like there were there there are languages that have male and female pronouns and
• 33:27
  male and female uh versions of other words that are that are not necessarily they
• 33:34
  don't have an equivalent in English. So yeah, it's it was it was.
• 33:39
  It's entirely made up. Uh. But yeah, so we're gonna we're
• 33:45
  gonna have fun with this one because I'm sure that the the trans women and
• 33:51
  transmen that are in the men's rights movement are like, if they get to
• 33:54
  listen to this, they're gonna be going, what the fuck? Yeah,
• 33:59
  I was just going to bring the aforementioned trendsgendered MRAs into the conversation, because
• 34:06
  Hello, if this guy did any kind of you know what is that called
• 34:12
  again, research, then he would have known that, you know what I
• 34:15
  mean. But no, you know whatever, this this guy is a fucking
• 34:20
  he's a quack, and he's all on about diversity. Yeah, but yeah.
• 34:27
  The mocking and denigrating of LGBTQ people and their lifestyles has become disturbingly common
• 34:31
  by both video uploaders and commentaries on YouTube. I don't know, I haven't
• 34:37
  seen that. Like, as a member of the men's rice movement and a
• 34:45
  member of the alphabet population, I don't think I'm a part of the community
• 34:52
  very well, But as a member of the alphabet population, I kind of
• 34:58
  call bullshit on that, just just just saying, nobody has ever ever told
• 35:06
  me I can't be part of the men's rights movement because I'm bisexual. And
• 35:10
  actually the people who most often use you are trands as a I don't know,
• 35:22
  a denigrading term a personal attack on me have been feminist women and feminist
• 35:31
  men for different reasons, and and one one trad couck red pill dating coach
• 35:39
  who I think has an IQ of twelve, so he didn't count. But
• 35:47
  uh, but yeah it is. I don't think I've ever had a men's
• 35:52
  rights activist look at me and be like, oh, you must be trans
• 35:55
  because you're not cute, you know, or or neniotanist or whatever. Nobody
• 36:01
  has has tried to take away my my biological sex. But feminists and and
• 36:08
  women who are mad at me, you gotta be a man. Women don't
• 36:12
  talk like that. Yeah. But according to our intrepid writer here, in
• 36:22
  addition to the mocking and demigrating that takes place, Manisphere ideology sees cis gender
• 36:29
  heterosexuality as normal and natural. That's what it means, that's what. Yeah,
• 36:37
  it's as normal and natural, while a narrowly defined femininity is seen as
• 36:40
  its lesser complement. So I'm gonna say this again. I say I think
• 36:46
  I say this every time the word comes up. Abnormal is not a moral
• 36:52
  judgment. It's a statement of fact. Genius is abnormal, purity is abnormal,
• 37:05
  right, pure altruism totally abnormal. Everybody is different from each other and
• 37:15
  a little bit in their attitudes and behaviors. Right, So this idea that
• 37:22
  non conforming people people who are dramatically different from maybe the rest of the population
• 37:31
  that is only marginally different from each other. Like, it's not moral.
• 37:40
  It's not a moral judgment to notice that. It's not a moral judgment to
• 37:45
  notice that there are some people who are significantly taller than average, or significantly
• 37:51
  shorter than average, or significantly fatter or thinner than average. Right, those
• 37:57
  are all just bits of information. How you react to them is on you.
• 38:04
  And yeah, it is normal and natural to be heterosexual. Doesn't make
• 38:12
  it wrong to not be normal and not be entirely natural. There's evidence that
• 38:22
  a more dense population in terms of numbers, not in terms of brain activity,
• 38:30
  but a more dense population increases the likelihood of homosexuality. And it might
• 38:36
  be that living beings that reproduce sexually are programmed to change a little bit in
• 38:45
  order to avoid increasing and a level of overpopulation that they're already experiencing. Like
• 38:53
  if you're in adverse conditions, you become less inclined to produce children. Right,
• 39:00
  doesn't make it immoral. It's not a moral judgment to note that.
• 39:07
  It is a fact of life. It is information. What you do with
• 39:13
  it that's on you. Arguably, everything is natural everything, everything complies with
• 39:23
  the laws of nature, the laws of physics, and yes, even the
• 39:27
  laws of biology. It's only a useful word because it has well it's it's
• 39:34
  the most commonly used antonym is man made, which to some degree, human
• 39:45
  transsexuality is a man made because it wasn't put there by evolution. Some species
• 39:52
  like clownfish do have what could be called natural transsexuality when when when one clown
• 40:00
  fish dies, another clownfish undergoes a natural sex change. And there's all other
• 40:07
  kinds of arthropods that that do that, and and this is very often brought
• 40:12
  up by these by these quacks to say that it must therefore be normal and
• 40:15
  natural in humans. But if we're drawing this distinction between natural and man made,
• 40:22
  this is one of the places where it can actually be drawn. I
• 40:27
  mean, I mean, why why do you have to perform surgeries on human
• 40:32
  beings in order to change their quote unquote gender. That's literally man made,
• 40:40
  isn't it. Well, you think about it. Appendectomy to remove a burst
• 40:46
  appendix totally unnatural. Chemotherapy and radiation therapy for cancer totally unnatural. Man made
• 40:54
  concepts. We came up with that, right, And I say we very
• 41:00
  loosely because obviously I had nothing to do with it. But uh, yeah,
• 41:05
  birth control pills totally unnatural, even though what they affect is your your
• 41:10
  natural chemical makeup. All all the things that we do in medicine. You
• 41:19
  know, when somebody comes in with a heart attack and the doctor cracks open
• 41:22
  their rib cage and opens up their flesh and and puts a stint in their
• 41:29
  heart so that the blood flow continues and they're able to live, that's totally
• 41:34
  unnatural. M And being smart enough to understand how to do that correctly so
• 41:42
  that you save the patient's life and uh and not kill the patient. That's
• 41:47
  abnormal. The overwhelming majority of the public cannot do that. Only some people
• 41:55
  can do that, and uh, you know, I have a lot of
• 42:00
  respect for that. That's a very respectable or respectable way to be abnormal.
• 42:07
  So describing something as abnormal is not a judgment, a moral judgment, it's
• 42:12
  not a value judgment. It's an understanding that this is maybe rare, a
• 42:16
  rare quality, or an unusual quality. And that means that we cannot if
• 42:22
  we are designing a society around, uh, the the idea that our social
• 42:30
  norms and our legal norms and everything are going to cater to the majority of
• 42:35
  people are going to you know that that's that means that it's going to be
• 42:38
  designed around the thing that is normal. Right. The concept of marriage was
• 42:44
  created, for instance, around the concept of reproduction, and that necessarily means
• 42:53
  straight people, and we really only needed it to expand to couples that are
• 43:01
  same sex when we developed a legal system that in a set of legal standards
• 43:08
  and business standards in particular with regard to healthcare and insurance and stuff like that,
• 43:16
  where being in that type of partnership was required in order to be able
• 43:22
  to take care of your partner and provide for your partner and monitor how your
• 43:30
  partner is being served by these industries. And so now you know, we've
• 43:36
  had to have that expand to include marriages where reproduction might not be part of
• 43:42
  the marriage. You know that they're even even through artificial insemination, like maybe
• 43:50
  childless childless gay couples and childless lesbian couples still need to be able to have
• 43:54
  that legal stipulation. But they didn't need it two hundred three hundred years ago.
• 44:00
  Oh right, So it was not really discrimination for it to be the
• 44:05
  norm that marriage referred to heterosexual couples whose goal was probably producing children. But
• 44:16
  in any case, yeah, talking about that, talking about things in that
• 44:21
  way does get us hated by these people. So they think that we see
• 44:25
  cys gender heterosexuality as normal and natural well and narrow, narrowly defined femininity is
• 44:31
  seen as it's lesser complement. Those are his words, Those are his words.
• 44:39
  Nobody on this side, nobody over here, said that, like,
• 44:45
  acknowledging the difference between the sexes doesn't mean that we think one is lesser than
• 44:51
  or greater than, like completely the opposite. We're trying to bring. You
• 44:54
  know, that that thing called equality that you think that feminists art supposedly fighting
• 45:00
  for, Like we're actually talking about things in equitable terms on both sides,
• 45:07
  you know what I mean? Yeah, Jesus, Like there's one of two
• 45:13
  things is true, right, Either women are equal to men in every way,
• 45:19
  or there are some ways in which each of the genders are superior or
• 45:24
  inferior in terms of capability or abilities or aptitudes or whatever. Like, one
• 45:34
  of those two things is true, and feminists will argue both sides of the
• 45:37
  fence with women. Feminists believe that men and women are completely equal. And
• 45:43
  men have been oppressing women forever, yes, somehow, somehow, and they'll
• 45:49
  say women are capable of everything. Men are capable when you know of when
• 45:54
  we're talking about the workplace, right, we're talking about who does the head
• 46:00
  lifting, who does the hard jobs, who does the dirty jobs, who
• 46:01
  does this the stinky, nasty going down into the sewers and breaking up Fatberg's
• 46:07
  job, which, by the way, in India is way grosser than it
• 46:14
  is in the US because we have technology here that is that is used in
• 46:19
  our sewers that that makes the job more sanitary, where if you can,
• 46:25
  you can find pictures of sewer workers in India that the conditions that they work
• 46:34
  in, it's just horrifying. And there are men who have gone into empty
• 46:39
  sewage tanks to clean them out, that have died from asphyxiation from basically being
• 46:47
  fumigated, all right, like they've been basically been poisoned to death with methane
• 46:57
  by by being in these tanks. And it's it's a common problem. And
• 47:04
  of course poverty is associated with it, cast is associated with it. Just
• 47:12
  there's an element of racism and religious discrimination associated with it. Uh, But
• 47:17
  it's but it only affects men. Women do not do that job. That's
• 47:22
  a man's job, and feminists don't want to change that, right. But
• 47:30
  but they'll say that women are deserving of getting paid the same as a man
• 47:37
  who does something like that if they work the same number of hours in an
• 47:43
  office for the utility, and and they consider that woman's work to be as
• 47:50
  mentally demanding as dealing with that nastiness. All right, and yeah, night
• 47:59
  motorcyclist. Women in the United States will will take the job title and not
• 48:02
  do the job. I don't think women in India will even touch the job
• 48:07
  title, but yeah, in any case, then they'll turn around and when
• 48:17
  it comes to discussing domestic violence and sexual violence, they'll speak as though women
• 48:25
  are not equally capable as men, that there are things men can do to
• 48:31
  women that women don't have the power or strength to do to men, and
• 48:37
  that therefore, when a woman is violent or sexually violent, a man does
• 48:45
  not have the same right to self defense or legal recourse that a woman in
• 48:52
  his same position with a male perpetrator would have right so equally do when it's
• 49:00
  convenient. I lost my place. That's what happens when I'm tired. Any
• 49:09
  change, oh, any challenge to this dichotomy is considered unnatural and a sign
• 49:14
  of the modern corruption of society. State representation of or state repression of gender
• 49:22
  and sexuality is celebrated, and members of the community are baselessly derided as pedophiles
• 49:28
  and groomers of children. So this has to be a response to the whole
• 49:32
  teachers trying to gaslight children into believing that they are parts of the community when
• 49:40
  they weren't before they entered the classroom. I'm calling it torture now. I'm
• 49:47
  sick of all the euphemisms. Groomer is a euphemism, Gaslighting is a euphemism.
• 49:52
  It's torture, straight up, mental, psychological, and physical torture of
• 49:59
  children. Yeah. Yeah, Conversion therapy is torture. And that's what this
• 50:05
  is. This is conversion therapy. It is not the same to complain about
• 50:13
  it's the the history of conversion therapy where people actually tried to force gay people
• 50:19
  and lesbians to be straight. It's it's It's not the same to complain that
• 50:28
  that teachers aren't being allowed to gaslight students into thinking that they are something they're
• 50:34
  not, as it is to complain that the whole medical profession, and in
• 50:39
  particular the psychiatric profession, is trying to gaslight you know, like is trying
• 50:45
  to gaslight days unless days into thinking there's something they're not like. One is
• 50:51
  being told no, you can't do that to the children, the other was
• 50:57
  doing it. It's a running the we call it grooming when grooming is something
• 51:00
  one does to a dog or a pet. It's just you know, combing
• 51:06
  their hair once in a while and giving them a buff. But if a
• 51:09
  teacher treated a child as a pet, namely, you know, locked them
• 51:16
  up in a room and only let them out on a chain of some sort,
• 51:22
  give them just a cushion to sleep on at night, is there anyone
• 51:27
  who wouldn't be like, yeah, I think that's I think that's not okay.
• 51:30
  I think you can't treat other people's children like that. And I guess
• 51:38
  we are at the point now where if a child decides they are a cat,
• 51:44
  then there are a lot of children that would there are a lot of
• 51:45
  teachers that would demand everyone treat them like a cat. But if the teacher
• 51:51
  is the person who in the first place said, hey, you child,
• 51:53
  you're a dog, did you know it's great being a dog. Do you
• 51:59
  know it's to be great if I treat you like a dog and then the
• 52:01
  child goes, okay, I'm a dog. Treat me like a dog.
• 52:05
  You know. It spanked me around the head whenever I, you know,
• 52:07
  do something wrong. Pick up my ship. Well, that's the other end.
• 52:12
  They're not going to pick up their ship. You know if aid if
• 52:15
  a child ships on the floor, then you're not just gonna pick it up.
• 52:17
  You're gonna well probably rub their noses in it. All of this is
• 52:22
  wrong. The thing that the objection that I actually have to the grooming term
• 52:31
  is it used to be used as a term to describe preparing someone to take
• 52:37
  on a role in the workplace. So you could say someone was being groomed
• 52:43
  for a management position, meaning that there their their mentor was helping them to
• 52:52
  change the way they did their job and they approached their work environment to switch
• 53:00
  over from an underling attitude and style of doing the job to becoming an authority
• 53:08
  figure in the workplace and filling a position of responsibility. And you would there's
• 53:15
  a whole process that goes along with that, because there's training and stuff,
• 53:19
  but there's also you need a change of attitude toward your workplace and your colleagues
• 53:27
  and management in the workplace and everything. There's a level of ownership that you
• 53:31
  have to take of that workplace when you are being groomed for management position.
• 53:38
  Right. And that's actually a good term in that it is similar to styling
• 53:49
  your hair and cleaning you up and so on. Would be like you're grooming
• 53:55
  somebody, You're making them more presentable and make them more prepared. Right.
• 54:02
  But when when we use the term in regard to sexual grooming, it is
• 54:10
  a manipulative tactic. It's not something that's done consensually. It's something that is
• 54:16
  done to take away somebody's ability to defend themselves against violation of their autonomy and
• 54:25
  their their personal boundaries. And it is still styling the person in a way
• 54:35
  it is still it's it's similar in that it's a change of attitude and a
• 54:40
  change of like you're your outlook. When when you're being groomed, you you
• 54:53
  have your your understanding of your boundaries taken away. It's being chipped away and
• 55:00
  eliminated, and your understanding of your ownership of yourself. For lack of a
• 55:07
  better term, like it's it's not my body anymore it's our body, and
• 55:16
  you end up with sort of a fake connection to the person that's grooming you
• 55:22
  and a sort of a fake sense of ownership combined ownership of each other.
• 55:30
  It's it's like a fake relationship, and it creates a an attitude of defensiveness
• 55:38
  toward the rest of society in regard to that person. So you would wanna
• 55:47
  as a as an individual that's been groomed, you would be protective of your
• 55:52
  perpetrator, and you would hide what's being done to you in order or protect
• 56:00
  your perpetrator. You don't want your perpetrator to get in trouble because you don't
• 56:04
  recognize that what they're doing to you is wrong. And so it's like two
• 56:14
  sides of the same coin. The side that gets used in an employment situation
• 56:21
  to prepare somebody to take on the level of responsibility required in order to earn
• 56:27
  that higher income and make a bigger contribution to the workplace, actually make a
• 56:34
  more meaningful contribution and have a more meaningful relationship with their workplace, versus in
• 56:42
  a predatory setting, you are basically altering someone's attitude in order to make them
• 56:51
  easier for you to exploit and take advantage of and the big difference is an
• 56:57
  individual being groomed for management in the workplace knows that's what's happening. They know
• 57:02
  that they are being taught a whole new way of doing their job and being
• 57:07
  in that workplace, and they agree to it as an adult who wants to
• 57:14
  take on that role and wants to be successful at it, where a child
• 57:21
  doesn't have the capacity to do that. And a teacher, of all people
• 57:25
  should know that they take early childhood psychology courses out the wazoo. I started
• 57:34
  down that path of becoming a school teacher years ago, and one of the
• 57:40
  things that I looked at in the curriculum was that I was going to be
• 57:44
  taking a bunch of early childhood development courses and other psychology courses related to learning
• 57:52
  and childhood and development. And I started taking those as my electives. And
• 58:00
  one of the things that you learn is there is a a level of incompetence
• 58:12
  I guess would be the best way to in children that is biologically caused their
• 58:19
  brain development. Their physical uh brain development isn't complete, and they don't have
• 58:25
  the capacity to even even if they're highly intelligent, even if they have some
• 58:31
  levels of precociousness and maturity that that maybe their classmates don't have. They still
• 58:37
  don't have the capacity to understand what you're doing to them when you engage in
• 58:43
  this type of uh, not sex education, but sexual manipulation. And of
• 58:50
  all people, teachers should be protecting students against this and uh and they're the
• 58:55
  ones imposing it. So yeah, it's it's it's ironic that this person used
• 59:01
  the phrase state repression of gender and sexuality, because if your student walks into
• 59:09
  your classroom, a developing mind, in a developing body, with a developing
• 59:19
  sexuality, that has an already set pathway based on that student's brain chemistry and
• 59:28
  that student's actual genetic history and so on, and you alter it, that
• 59:37
  is state repression of gender and sexuality. You are repressing that student's natural pathway.
• 59:49
  I mean, but of course it's only recognized when it goes against LGBTQ,
• 59:59
  right, when it goes against reverse conversion therapy show. Remember when one
• 1:00:10
  last thing, remember when Milounopolis described male genital mutilation as it's just good grooming.
• 1:00:20
  Yeah, when when we consider the euphemism and that it's something principally done
• 1:00:24
  to males on behalf of women's sexual preferences, their mother's sexual preferences. It
• 1:00:34
  makes a harrowing amount of sense. I still think about that a lot.
• 1:00:38
  Well, I don't know, I just remembered it just now. But yeah,
• 1:00:42
  it certainly didn't age well, did it. Milo? In some ways?
• 1:00:45
  I miss you in other ways. There's a few things there that didn't
• 1:00:49
  age well. But I mean one, you know, Milo ended up being
• 1:00:55
  the guy that was famous for being so heavily groomed sexually groomed that it was
• 1:01:02
  still affecting him in adulthood. I ended up going on along rant about this
• 1:01:07
  because when that happens to you as a child, and you are completely and
• 1:01:13
  utterly brainwashed by an adult into accepting behaviors and treatment that are abusive and of
• 1:01:23
  a sexual nature, you go through a process. It takes a long time
• 1:01:30
  to go through this process of it's almost like stages of grief and stages of
• 1:01:37
  anger, where you have stages of admitting that what happened to you was abuse,
• 1:01:43
  and one of those stages is trying to make yourself okay with it.
• 1:01:47
  It's almost like Stockholm's syndrome. I went through that stage. It's very uncomfortable,
• 1:02:02
  and when you finally get through that and you come out at the other
• 1:02:07
  end and you're like, no, I don't have to be okay with this.
• 1:02:15
  It's not something that you want to go through in public. I really
• 1:02:21
  feel bad for Milo that he had to go through that in public. And
• 1:02:25
  one of the reasons you don't want to go through it in public is because
• 1:02:28
  people who didn't understand what happened to you, people who didn't experience it and
• 1:02:35
  don't understand the process that you're going through, will judge you for it.
• 1:02:39
  I guess it's not a moral issue going through that process. It's an issue
• 1:02:45
  of psychological injury where you are in need of community support for recovery, and
• 1:02:52
  demonizing somebody for being injured is not supportive, right, shame on you.
• 1:03:00
  You broke your leg sounds ridiculous. Right. You don't shame somebody because somebody
• 1:03:06
  shot them and they're bleeding. Now, that sounds ridiculous. But you shame
• 1:03:10
  somebody for having a broken mind after somebody beat the hell out of it.
• 1:03:19
  That's normal. Somehow it doesn't sound ridiculous, but it should. I still
• 1:03:28
  am kind of sad. I guess I can't be mad at people for that
• 1:03:34
  because it's also normal to respond to icky things by getting the ick right.
• 1:03:42
  That's why we have the holy frickin Yuckie spider he begb dance. You know,
• 1:03:46
  even though you are the size of a skyscraper to a spider, you
• 1:03:52
  know, at least most spiders, and you can crush a spider with your
• 1:03:57
  foot or many spiders with your thumb. Uh, you know, it still
• 1:04:00
  terrifies the shit out of you for a minute when you find one on your
• 1:04:03
  leg. And it's the same thing when you see somebody's broken mind accepting something
• 1:04:12
  that they should never accept. So but in any case, yeah, this
• 1:04:18
  this idea that we're going to shame the public for for objecting to reverse conversion
• 1:04:29
  therapy in our schools because it's okay if it's being done to convince people that
• 1:04:36
  they're they're gay or trans. Bullshit. It is every bit is evil to
• 1:04:42
  do that, as it is to take somebody who actually is gay or trans
• 1:04:46
  and try to gaslight them and torture them and make them change their mind and
• 1:04:54
  break their mind. But what does the left away say, No bad tactics,
• 1:05:02
  only bad targets. So our next thing, glorifying capitalism and entrepreneurship,
• 1:05:12
  manisphere ideology deludes its followers into a dream of one day joining the ruling classes
• 1:05:18
  in their penthouses and sports cars by peddling individual improvement and change of mindset as
• 1:05:26
  an alternative to workers' solidarity and communal action. So, in other words,
• 1:05:31
  we are being condemned because the movement is not universally communist. There are,
• 1:05:36
  by the way, communists in the men's rights movement. I've known some of
• 1:05:41
  them that have gotten very angry with me for being an anarcho capitalist. And
• 1:05:46
  by the way, not every capitalist has a goal of joining the ruling classes
• 1:05:53
  in their penthouses and sports cars, like that's just bullshit. I've been quite
• 1:06:00
  satisfied personally to live as part of the middle class or lower at different points
• 1:06:09
  in my life, you know, and and never tried to get rich or
• 1:06:16
  anything like that. And the difference is, I don't resent rich people for
• 1:06:24
  having more money than I do and having more things than I do, more
• 1:06:29
  toys, more space, more indoors, more travel whatever. I'm doing what
• 1:06:35
  I want to do and they're doing what they want to do, and it's
• 1:06:39
  not the same thing, and that's fine, But these guys don't get that.
• 1:06:46
  Goes on. I have to say, if you think these gender ideologues
• 1:06:53
  give the slightest shit about the workers or their solidarity, I have all kinds
• 1:06:59
  of bridges to sell you, Bridges built by the bourgeoisie. When I say
• 1:07:04
  bourgeoisie, I mean women. Women. Well, women used to be the
• 1:07:08
  bourgeoisie because they could just stay at home doing whatever the hell they liked while
• 1:07:12
  the men went out to work. After one hundred years of this socialism in
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  panties, that those women have been turned into the working class, and they're
• 1:07:24
  just as miserable as the men are now. And there's a hell of an
• 1:07:29
  overlap between people who call themselves feminists and people who call themselves communists. And
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  just as always happens, it hasn't hasn't hasn't brought the general quality of life
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  up from the ground. It's pushed everyone down from the sky. And yeah,
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  they they claim they love the workers, and now they've turned everyone into
• 1:07:50
  the workers except the one percent. And yeah, the one percent that controls
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  everything, and the four percent is their puppets, and yeah, now,
• 1:08:00
  yeah, and now now the ninety percent have all been turned into serfs.
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  And then there's the other five percent, which is us as as as we
• 1:08:08
  try and you know, get through to the ninety percent. Now we're and
• 1:08:13
  it's it's it's the one percent getting the four percent to prevent the five percent
• 1:08:19
  from deprogramming the ninety percent. Yep. And and actually it's even less than
• 1:08:26
  one percent, you know, like that that that one percent statement one and
• 1:08:31
  a hundred people aren't that rich. But and it's it's fine that it's true
• 1:08:36
  that one in one hundred hundred people aren't that rich. Like that's not everybody's
• 1:08:43
  going to do that. Not everybody's going to want to do that. Not
• 1:08:45
  everybody's going to make that their life goal. And we don't have to,
• 1:08:48
  right, we also don't have to be mad at people who do. But
• 1:08:54
  but yeah, I need to clarify something because of conversation taking place in the
• 1:08:59
  you just so people understand, Milo Yanopolis has not been accused of any kind
• 1:09:06
  of sexual misconduct with another person. It was done to him when he was
• 1:09:13
  a child. It's something that he talked about publicly, and because he was
• 1:09:18
  going through that process, he said some very awkward things that I bet he
• 1:09:26
  probably doesn't even agree with those things now, because isn't he now presenting as
• 1:09:30
  straight where he was presenting as gay at the time, and I think it
• 1:09:36
  was something to the effect of being grateful, you know, backhandedly to the
• 1:09:43
  priest that molested him for opening up to his sexuality. And now he's saying
• 1:09:51
  that he's straight, not gay, so he's probably regretting that state. And
• 1:10:01
  I don't think that he should be made to regret the statement because it was
• 1:10:05
  part of that process of coming to terms with what happened to him, and
• 1:10:10
  he might never have been gay. Actually he might have been going through that
• 1:10:17
  that It's hard to explain, but you try really hard to make yourself okay
• 1:10:25
  with what happened to you, because you don't want to feel broken. You
• 1:10:29
  don't want to feel like you've been ruined for the rest of your life.
• 1:10:35
  And you know, like I kind of did the opposite of of of what
• 1:10:43
  Milo did, where I insisted on categorizing myself as straight for years. So
• 1:10:54
  h people who who admit to having been groomed are generally shunned by the powers
• 1:11:01
  of the beat, whether in Milo's case it's saying he was okay with it,
• 1:11:05
  or with these increasing amount of detransitioners saying they were groomed and they're not
• 1:11:11
  okay with It really doesn't matter what your reaction is to be groomed by this
• 1:11:16
  cult. You're just not allowed to point out that it happened. You'll you'll,
• 1:11:20
  you'll get yourself a smear campaign one way or another. Yeah. Uh.
• 1:11:27
  And you know, there is another aspect with with Milo that actually is
• 1:11:32
  characteristic of people who have been through the experienced type of experiences that he's been
• 1:11:39
  through, and that is attention seeking. Milo says things that he knows are
• 1:11:45
  going to sound outrageous to people in order to get people to react to him.
• 1:11:50
  And it's it's like narcissistic feed. When you give him attention for that,
• 1:11:59
  it's not necessarily dysfunctional in the way that narcissistic feed is, because narcissists
• 1:12:04
  do it to create conflict, and I think Milo does it just to create
• 1:12:11
  you know, people people uh paying attention to him, and and it doesn't
• 1:12:16
  matter if there's conflict or if he is universally hated for it. It's it's
• 1:12:26
  all the same, it seems like to him, so and he feeds on
• 1:12:30
  that. But that actually is a symptom of psychological damage from being molested.
• 1:12:40
  That's actually not uncommon. It's just that he has a much bigger platform to
• 1:12:44
  do it in. So uh but yeah, back to the capitalism and entrepreneurship.
• 1:12:53
  So we we are accused now of they push a culture of hyper individualism,
• 1:12:58
  alienation from the community, and unfeeling consumerism. I don't think I've ever
• 1:13:04
  heard anybody in the men's rights movement insist that we are not part of a
• 1:13:09
  community. The fact that we're movement kind of precludes that. Nor have we
• 1:13:16
  insisted on unfeeling consumerism. In fact, we've criticized women for it in a
• 1:13:23
  number of ways. But yeah, men are taught to become high value by
• 1:13:28
  commodifying themselves and objectifying women. That seems like it's addressed specifically to the pickup
• 1:13:32
  artist and dating coach end of the manosphere, because there's actually a lot of
• 1:13:42
  the older school MRAs, like the Boomer generation of MRAs, have heavily criticized
• 1:13:49
  the social standard wherein men have traditionally been expected to commodify them Like, objectifying
• 1:14:02
  women is kind of a made up thing, So I'm not even gonna go
• 1:14:06
  there. Now, we have fitness culture and Jim Bros. Fitness is sold
• 1:14:19
  as the de facto route to establish one's masculinity and separate oneself from the stain
• 1:14:26
  of femininity. The gym becomes a sighte of male solidarity and upliftment, and
• 1:14:31
  the trope of overcoming the self righteous feelings of betrayal and hurt caused by a
• 1:14:36
  woman through working out is common in this subculture. I'm waiting to hear,
• 1:14:42
  how the fu this is unhealthy? Yeah, in this subculture, women are
• 1:14:45
  portrayed as a force of emasculation and distraction that are out to stop you from
• 1:14:50
  becoming the physically desirable man that they will themselves chase, the kind that they
• 1:14:57
  choose over your present self because you are weak. That's it. That's the
• 1:15:01
  whole paragraph. Did Are they aware that women can also work out? Well,
• 1:15:08
  they can try a lot of them will just go to the gym to
• 1:15:11
  set up a camera and try try and accuse men of staring at them.
• 1:15:15
  But you know, there's nothing stopping women from working out and still being feminine.
• 1:15:21
  Yeah, you don't have to grow massive muscles and abs in order to
• 1:15:25
  be, you know, physically fit as a woman. That's not that's that's
• 1:15:28
  bodybuilding, Like bodybuilding is pointless anyway. It's not the same as being physically
• 1:15:34
  fitted. It's just a usually steroid induced form of well kind of objectifying yourself
• 1:15:43
  actually, And I don't think the person that wrote this news the difference.
• 1:15:47
  Yeah no, but yeah, you're right. You know, my my brother
• 1:15:54
  was a fitness guy when we were younger. He still is somewhat, but
• 1:15:59
  it's it's much less of a thing for him now because you know, we're
• 1:16:04
  old, we're middle aged. But like, he still tries to be healthy,
• 1:16:12
  right, But he actually got into it enough that he read Arnold Schwarzenegger's
• 1:16:19
  book on bodybuilding and learned learned all about the body's metabolic processes and how they
• 1:16:28
  work and what all the contributing factors are and everything. Could have probably graduated
• 1:16:34
  with a dietetics degree if he does stuck with it. But at the time
• 1:16:42
  that he was a university, the entire field of dietetics reversed itself. And
• 1:16:49
  so you get through three years of a degree and get told, well,
• 1:16:51
  everything we just taught you was wrong and you have to start all over again.
• 1:16:55
  It's kind of discouraging, but again that they're playing this Davo trick as
• 1:17:03
  though it's outlandish to be concerned with with with one's physical health and fitness.
• 1:17:11
  No, it's very it's very much. It's very much women and very much
• 1:17:15
  the feminist movement that started this body acceptance. Fat acceptance movement is what it
• 1:17:21
  is. It's feminists who are telling women, no, you can be eating
• 1:17:26
  as fat as you like, and if anyone doesn't like it, it's their
• 1:17:28
  problem. No, it's not. It's very very it's very much your problem.
• 1:17:31
  It's actually very dangerous. In fact, in the United States, as
• 1:17:39
  partly as a result of the fat acceptance movement, we have a higher rate
• 1:17:44
  of deaths associated with pregnancy, childbirth, and the first year after childbirth,
• 1:17:53
  like women who are dying from heart conditions, cardio pulmonary conditions, so breathing
• 1:18:00
  conditions, of vascular conditions and so on that are related to being an unhealthy
• 1:18:09
  wait during your pregnancy and maybe before, and you know we have there are
• 1:18:17
  two things that are significant contributors to that. One of them is the fat
• 1:18:21
  acceptance movement. The other one is women putting off childbirth and starting their families
• 1:18:30
  later in life, when they're more likely to have already built in to their
• 1:18:34
  bodies these problems. You're more likely to have a stroke or heart attack at
• 1:18:41
  forty than you are at twenty. Just just a fact of life because your
• 1:18:45
  body has aged. But yeah, the thing that bugs me about the gym
• 1:18:50
  culture complaint here is this, women spend billions, collectively billions on faking attractiveness,
• 1:19:08
  fake hair, fake tits, fake ass, fake coloration on their skin,
• 1:19:15
  right, fake eyelashes, fake fingernails, fake lips. They even have
• 1:19:21
  a device now that you put your lips in it and it sucks on them
• 1:19:29
  like one of those uh one of those blowjob things that yeah, it sucks
• 1:19:34
  like that or like a vacuum cleaner and causes swelling in the lips. It
• 1:19:43
  irritates them, literally does damage in it causes injury, right for fake beauty
• 1:19:54
  totally completely fake plastic surgery, getting lipos suction and getting botox to get rid
• 1:20:02
  of natural aging signs, dyeing their hair, taking pills to change their skin
• 1:20:10
  color, like maybe not too dramatically, but still, or to using creams
• 1:20:16
  to eliminate some of their skin color like if it's uneven, or get getting
• 1:20:20
  rid of freckles, getting rid of patches or splotches, like and that's that's
• 1:20:28
  before you get into the digital shit like what they do just online, right,
• 1:20:35
  that's real life doing this to their bodies using clothing that is made like
• 1:20:44
  scaffolding and that binds this part of the body and emphasizes that part. High
• 1:20:49
  heels to make themselves look taller, stick their butts out, ruin their backs,
• 1:20:57
  pointy bras bras with padding bras that shove your tits all the way up
• 1:21:03
  to your chin. You know, like all that's a billions. This industry
• 1:21:11
  creates a significant part of the waste that pollutes our environment and is it takes
• 1:21:19
  a significant chunk of household incomes. In households where you have a woman who
• 1:21:27
  is very, very self obsessed, or even just has to maintain a particular
• 1:21:32
  type of professional look, right, or thinks she does, or just likes
• 1:21:38
  to have purple hair or big lips or you know, a big butt or
• 1:21:45
  a skinny body or whatever, right, billions of dollars. But a guy
• 1:21:53
  going to the gym and lifting weights, running, walking treadmill, going on
• 1:22:01
  a highly nutritious diet in order to achieve an actual, real body shape,
• 1:22:11
  to make himself feel attractive or to even be professionally attractive. Like he's the
• 1:22:18
  bad guy. He gets demonized. Something's wrong with that guy who is actually
• 1:22:31
  changing his body through healthy means to display his good health to attract a woman
• 1:22:42
  who wants to be with a guy who looks healthy. Well, that's the
• 1:22:45
  problem right there. He's trying to attract a woman. He's a pervert,
• 1:22:50
  Hannah like that, just he's the bad guy. R. She can lie
• 1:22:58
  to you about every aspect of her physical appearance. Yeah uh. And and
• 1:23:03
  she get has the biggest parakeets in town. But as you go to caress
• 1:23:08
  her, you see them on the dresser, the biggest parakeets in town.
• 1:23:12
  Right. But if you actually pump iron so that your biceps are are nice
• 1:23:21
  and your pecs are nice, and your stomach is flat and you're strong,
• 1:23:28
  shame on you. Huh. I mean women put makeup on to go to
• 1:23:33
  the gym. Oh my god, that's that's the level of fucking. I
• 1:23:41
  don't even know what to call it. Narcissism. I don't think nothing really
• 1:23:45
  seems to to to just tap it right, hit the nail on the head.
• 1:23:50
  I can't find the words. It's just so self obsessed. If I
• 1:23:58
  put makeup on to go to the gym, when I came out of the
• 1:24:00
  gym, I would look like a federal disaster. If you actually, if
• 1:24:06
  you actually made an effort to exercise. But these women aren't doing that.
• 1:24:10
  They're going to, like yeah, in the hopes that men will perv on
• 1:24:14
  them. That's why they have the cameras. When I go to trying to
• 1:24:16
  get a Jimbro Jim Bro boyfriend. Basically, when I go exercise, I
• 1:24:21
  come out of there with my shirt soaked, like I am, I am
• 1:24:26
  covered in sweat. But but yeah, I just can't imagine. Of course
• 1:24:33
  I don't. I don't wear leggings there either. I usually have shorts on
• 1:24:39
  because it gets roasting hot when you're putting out that kind of effort. But
• 1:24:45
  jee, So, yeah, fitness culture is bad. Okay, Now we
• 1:24:51
  have profit above all else for YouTube, and this this is great because,
• 1:24:57
  like I'm looking at this going, We've been throttled our whole career. But
• 1:25:02
  you go on, writer, he says, as I said earlier, YouTube
• 1:25:08
  is an important resource and repository for all kinds of Internet users. And the
• 1:25:14
  prevalence of ideology, of the ideology of the organized right, and of course
• 1:25:21
  being right wing is in and of itself evil here right they're having a like
• 1:25:30
  left or right wing outlook. The term is a moral judgment, not just
• 1:25:35
  a fact of well, this person thinks the solution to the social ills that
• 1:25:43
  we talk about is more government control and more collective application of authority, whereas
• 1:25:54
  this other person thinks that government is part of the problem, that government controls
• 1:26:00
  making things worse, that people need to take responsibility for themselves, and that
• 1:26:05
  they will and can, and that needs to be part of the solution.
• 1:26:12
  And of course, anybody that's in the middle in between who thinks some things
• 1:26:16
  have government solution applications and some things don't really gets demonized. And like,
• 1:26:24
  I don't agree with any of those perspectives necessarily entirely, although I think that
• 1:26:31
  the greatest number of solutions comes from eliminating government control. But there are people
• 1:26:40
  in the men's rights movement that would disagree vehemently and have had vehement debates,
• 1:26:45
  very heated debates with me about that. So it's not like there's just one
• 1:26:49
  perspective here. This is something that we all have different ideas about, and
• 1:26:55
  it's important that those ideas get hashed out and discussed, and we don't just
• 1:27:00
  settle on something without that happening, because if we just settle on something without
• 1:27:08
  vetting it, that means that we may settle on the wrong thing and do
• 1:27:14
  more damage. But yeah, the organized right makes it sound like organized crime,
• 1:27:23
  doesn't it. The organized right is harmful to the cause of socioeconomic progress
• 1:27:29
  and transformation. The influence of YouTubers and their content is getting increasingly significant in
• 1:27:36
  today's changing media landscape. In other words, people didn't right wing people didn't
• 1:27:44
  exist until right wing people on YouTube made them that way. Well, to
• 1:27:49
  be fair, the legacy media, TV and newspapers have been radically left wing
• 1:27:58
  for god knows how many decas it at this point. And yeah, it's
• 1:28:01
  scared. It's scared people that that YouTube featured the proverbial you, which which
• 1:28:09
  exposed people to the idea that actually it's not a million communists for every one
• 1:28:16
  Nazi or whatever they call the organized right. It's actually there's there's a great
• 1:28:21
  deal more centrists, and yes, a great deal more right wing people than
• 1:28:25
  you would think, and even people who don't particularly identify with any point on
• 1:28:30
  on on the given political compass. We're just here to say, hey,
• 1:28:36
  well we think feminism's pollocks. Yeah, we don't particularly like communism either,
• 1:28:44
  So yes, I guess you could say that makes us right wing compared to
• 1:28:47
  communists. But yeah, there were there just hasn't for the longest time.
• 1:28:51
  There was no pushback against communism or the communism in panties that has been called
• 1:28:58
  feminism for far too long. And yeah, to that degree, yes,
• 1:29:02
  it's it scares these radical leftists that there's anyone on the internet, especially in
• 1:29:11
  popular places like YouTube, where anyone is allowed to say, hey, I
• 1:29:15
  think there's such a thing as as the far left, which which it's far
• 1:29:21
  left. People don't think there is. You'll you'll still notice that in on
• 1:29:26
  the television they're constantly complaining about that are right, and they never even mentioned
• 1:29:30
  the far left because they don't think there's any such thing, because they are
• 1:29:33
  it, and that there's there's nothing that anyone can do they would consider two
• 1:29:40
  left wing, not even fucking Stalin or Maw. On the contrary, they
• 1:29:45
  are following the Maoist model to the letter at this point. And yeah,
• 1:29:50
  this paragraph is about to talk about how YouTube is just interested in it in
• 1:29:56
  its bottom line, in making as much money as possible, which is bollocks.
• 1:30:00
  If they were they would allow non left wing content to be monetized.
• 1:30:04
  But they don't. They demonetize well, I say they demonetize it. They
• 1:30:10
  do they they don't allow right wing people to keep the profits of the monetization.
• 1:30:17
  They just they funnel it all back into into YouTube's coffers, where they
• 1:30:24
  use it to subsidize all the fucking communists on the side. Like an interesting
• 1:30:30
  thing they do. They will if they don't like your channel. There are
• 1:30:35
  some ads that they have sold to, like vitamin companies and stuff that are
• 1:30:43
  forty five minutes long, and they'll put that in front of your three minute
• 1:30:46
  video then you can't skip it. Oh that yeah, and they make money
• 1:30:58
  from that, but you don't. Course. Yeah, YouTube is you know,
• 1:31:03
  profit profit centered, totally huh. They just want to get rid of
• 1:31:11
  us famous. The YouTube is losing money. I don't think it's ever actually
• 1:31:15
  been making money. It's it loses billions every year, sort of hand over
• 1:31:20
  fist. And they can afford it because because it's part of Alphabet, which
• 1:31:25
  is making money from others ship like you know, ads on Google and whatnot.
• 1:31:29
  YouTube has always been a money sink and and by demonetizing any any non
• 1:31:35
  communist content, they they've only thrown more and more money into a sink.
• 1:31:42
  It's it's a it's an ideological institution that like so many well, it's part
• 1:31:47
  of the ESG revolution. There they say, go woke, boat, go
• 1:31:54
  broke. But YouTube is too big to fail. It's too big to go
• 1:31:58
  broke because this, well, part of part of what makes it too big
• 1:32:02
  to go broke is it's deceptive when they say they're not making money. Companies
• 1:32:11
  like Alphabet will they'll compartmentalize their expenditures and their their claims about what they're taking
• 1:32:21
  in versus what they're paying out. But the existence of an area of the
• 1:32:30
  company that appears to not be profitable leads to profit in other areas of the
• 1:32:41
  company. Like just a little example would be if you do if you use
• 1:32:47
  Google as your search engine and your browser, and you search a subject,
• 1:32:55
  and you let ads display in your and your subject, your search brings up
• 1:33:06
  YouTube videos in addition to other things. Then they're making money on the ads
• 1:33:13
  from that. Some YouTube videos themselves are like they've got ads for those videos,
• 1:33:23
  and they become like the primary thing that shows up in regard to some
• 1:33:29
  searches, and so you end up clicking on the video and YouTube pays Google
• 1:33:38
  even though YouTube is Google, and maybe Google shows a profit because the money
• 1:33:45
  has left YouTube and gone to another part of the same company. But really
• 1:33:51
  it's just been transferred within the company, so it looks like the profit wasn't
• 1:33:58
  from YouTube, it was from Google because YouTube bought an ad on Google.
• 1:34:03
  It's it's very tricky. So then they can say, well, this isn't
• 1:34:06
  really profitable, and we have to do this because we're not making any money.
• 1:34:11
  Uh and and we can't afford to just let you guys talk and and
• 1:34:15
  what. But but in reality they're they're making money and and they're sort of
• 1:34:21
  hiding how they how profitable their site actually is. So it's it's not the
• 1:34:32
  first company I've seen do shit like that either. Banks do it all the
• 1:34:35
  time. But it goes on. Let's see the influence of YouTubers and and
• 1:34:44
  uh and their content is getting increasingly significant in today's changing media landscape. In
• 1:34:48
  other words, we can't control the narrative because you get to talk. Yeah,
• 1:34:56
  right, that's that's the complaint. The male supremacist manisphere ideology is but
• 1:35:02
  one of the many portals into a reactionary pipeline that serves to confuse and frustrate
• 1:35:09
  individuals suffering from alienation, lowliness, and extreme financial pressure as capitalism squeezes us
• 1:35:16
  harder and hinges all its bets on the reaction against loot lasting change. So,
• 1:35:23
  in other words, the male supremacist menisphere people who people who have compassion
• 1:35:31
  for men, right, that's that's that's what the male supremacist manisphere is.
• 1:35:38
  People who have compassion for men are are but one of the many portals into
• 1:35:45
  not accepting our bullshit as communists. Like. That's that's the Uh, that's
• 1:35:51
  the statement that this guy made, not just automatically agreeing with my perspective.
• 1:35:59
  Uh. And the suffering that he's attributing has to be because people aren't living
• 1:36:06
  the way he tells them to, and not because the war between capitalism and
• 1:36:15
  collectivism. Economic collectivism has left some people without recourse against the government and the
• 1:36:29
  large collectives that are controlling large sections of the economy and squeezing out people who
• 1:36:38
  simply want to earn based on their merits. It's not like it goes both
• 1:36:45
  ways or anything, guys. No, it's all the capitalists fault. YouTube
• 1:36:51
  and other platforms are incentivized only to increase our watch time and keep us hooked
• 1:36:57
  onto screens by shaping what we see and feeding us more of it. Well,
• 1:37:02
  that's true, but it's not true that that includes right wing content.
• 1:37:06
  They're very much they're very much about encouraging pedophiles to watch children dancing. But
• 1:37:13
  yeah, they're very much interested in throttling and shadow banning anything remotely right wing,
• 1:37:19
  and especially anything men's rise leaning. It's interesting. This is very similar
• 1:37:27
  to the the complaint that fast food places have this nefarious tactic of making their
• 1:37:36
  food taste good and that makes people buy it, like that's that's that's it.
• 1:37:47
  That's the nefarious tactic. They make their food taste good and therefore you
• 1:37:50
  buy it. It's addictive because it tastes good, and maybe their environment is
• 1:37:57
  fun, like that's it. Merit is something to complain about now. But
• 1:38:05
  yeah, yeah, YouTube feeds you what you order more. It feeds you
• 1:38:14
  more. It's supposed to ostensibly, that's why. That's why it's called YouTube.
• 1:38:17
  But when when the government and whatever NGOs claim to be NGOs all start
• 1:38:25
  saying you have to start feeding people bugs, even McDonald's is going to go,
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  Okay, we'll feed people bugs because because we're being told to, because
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  we because we're being scammed into apparently making more money if we if we sell
• 1:38:40
  people not food. That tastes good. But food that is made of bugs,
• 1:38:44
  How is this going to help us sell burgers? It's not. We
• 1:38:47
  just don't give a ship about. They'll find a way. If there is
• 1:38:51
  a way to make bugs taste good, McDonald's will find it. I'm less
• 1:38:58
  concerned about the bugs in the food in the McDonald's, In the actual McDonald's
• 1:39:01
  itself, I know, yeah, probably already got well, everything has a
• 1:39:06
  little bit of bugs in already. But yes, yes you have to wonder
• 1:39:10
  what is in that, thank slime. They promise us it's beef, but
• 1:39:14
  it's mostly chicken. Yeah. Actually, uh, here's here's something that people
• 1:39:21
  complain about that that I don't I don't understand the complaint. There's not actually
• 1:39:28
  anything unhealthy about eating bone marrow. There's not actually anything unhealthy about eating ground
• 1:39:33
  up bones. None of that is bad for you. So even if it's
• 1:39:40
  not what you thought you were eating, you're not being poisoned. It's when
• 1:39:44
  they put in you know, this this chemical that has twenty syllables to it
• 1:39:50
  that doesn't normally occur in your body, and your body can't digest it,
• 1:39:55
  and your liver doesn't like processing it. That's that's where you have issues or
• 1:40:01
  it has a bad effect on your brain, like the chemical has a bad
• 1:40:06
  effect on it. That's where there's a problem, right, But when we
• 1:40:11
  start feeling you kitin instead of bones. There's people don't tell you about kitin.
• 1:40:16
  It's it's the stuff that's in insects, casing whatever. It's called exoskeleton.
• 1:40:25
  And the alarmingly small amount of research has been done or certainly been relayed
• 1:40:32
  to us as consumers as to just how poisonous kite in is. And you
• 1:40:36
  know, that's basically most of what insects are made of. No, they
• 1:40:41
  are not the same to it. Yeah, and no, they're not the
• 1:40:45
  same as as prawns or shrimp. When you when you peel away the exoskeleton
• 1:40:49
  of a shrimp, you find all this meat. If you peel away the
• 1:40:53
  exoskeleton of a fucking dung beetle, there's not much left over. There's no
• 1:40:58
  meat. It's it's most of it is this. It is this hideous and
• 1:41:02
  there's a reason we don't eat it. I mean that they have they have
• 1:41:06
  larger insects in you know, in Asia, you know, large grubs or
• 1:41:12
  whatever. But they're not talking about making us, making us eat the meat
• 1:41:15
  of grubs that they're talking about grinding cockroaches into burgers, exoskeleton and all.
• 1:41:21
  And it's going to be generations and generations before anyone looks into, you know,
• 1:41:29
  the connection between eating kitin and dying a hideous death. And even when
• 1:41:34
  it does come out, they're going to suppress it. What the government can
• 1:41:38
  suppress medical information about the things we've put forced to put in our bodies.
• 1:41:44
  No heavens to Betsy young Bucket, No, no, no, I would
• 1:41:46
  never have no, no, we we we aren't saying anything about that.
• 1:41:51
  Uh So, yeah, this idea that YouTube shapes what you watch. What
• 1:41:58
  you watch shapes you tube, but they will suppress some things because they don't
• 1:42:03
  agree with them politically. But for instance, in terms of what you what
• 1:42:13
  you watch shaping YouTube. I still do see Manisphere content show up in my
• 1:42:21
  my YouTube stuff because I am subscribed to some Manisphere YouTubers, so so there
• 1:42:29
  is at least that, and my subscriptions show up most of the time.
• 1:42:32
  I can tell when somebody's being suppressed. Though. When I'm subscribed, I
• 1:42:36
  have the notification bell on all notifications, and I go a few months and
• 1:42:45
  I don't see any notifications, and then I go to their channel and I've
• 1:42:46
  missed like thirty videos that that that kind of that happens. So this,
• 1:42:55
  this idea that YouTube is pushing it on people is bullshit. It is,
• 1:43:03
  after all, a corporation for whom the bottom line is the final word.
• 1:43:08
  But what they don't understand is the bottom line is politics, because once they
• 1:43:12
  have control, then they don't need all of these other tools. Once,
• 1:43:18
  once, once they're side of the political spectrum has control, then there will
• 1:43:26
  no longer be a need to suppress. Everything will be suppressed already, there
• 1:43:31
  won't be a need to do any of this stuff. And then they give
• 1:43:35
  a list of things that that should be read and watched. So we have
• 1:43:42
  a journal article right wing YouTube a supply and demand perspective. Uh, then
• 1:43:49
  we have US Supreme Court weighs in on YouTube's algorithms litigation Minefield. There's a
• 1:44:00
  article the red Pill lie by dark Matter twenty five, twenty five debunking red
• 1:44:06
  I remember that guy. I remember dark Matter from the fucking atheist days.
• 1:44:11
  Aa he went full on SJW like so many of those new atheists did.
• 1:44:16
  Are we really going to go through this because they just advertising? I am
• 1:44:23
  Because there's a couple of interesting interesting implications here, and I might actually,
• 1:44:32
  I might actually look up that the red Pill lie by Dark Matter twenty five,
• 1:44:36
  twenty five and see if it is something that we might want to look
• 1:44:39
  at, or if it's just politics in general and not male female politics.
• 1:44:45
  But the one that struck me is they've got two about Joe Rogan. They're
• 1:44:56
  all the way at the bottom here. Remember this as somebody that's writing out
• 1:44:59
  of Indie. So apparently Joe Rogan has gotten big in India, because otherwise
• 1:45:04
  they wouldn't be paying any attention to him at all. One of them is
• 1:45:11
  Joe Rogan is mainstreaming right wing misinformation, and the other one is Rise of
• 1:45:16
  the Grifters. How Joe Rogan creates space for the right. So if you
• 1:45:23
  have opinions that differ from theirs politically, like they're talking about, basically just
• 1:45:29
  discussing political opinions the same way that this individual did in this article, right,
• 1:45:33
  having and discussing political opinions counts as grifting to these people, especially if
• 1:45:43
  you get paid as a commentator, which this individual probably does. But they
• 1:45:50
  hate this one guy so much, and I'm not necessarily a big hater or
• 1:45:59
  fan of him. I don't, Karen don't listen very much to Like,
• 1:46:01
  if something comes up that that's men's rights related, then I listen and and
• 1:46:06
  comment on it, But aside from that, like, he's not really on
• 1:46:09
  my radar. But they hate this one guy so much that out of their
• 1:46:16
  seven article lists, which is really an eight article list because they forgot to
• 1:46:19
  number one, he takes up two. So a quarter of their material is
• 1:46:26
  based on objecting to him. It's because he's popular. That's that's that's that's
• 1:46:31
  really what it is. It's not what people are saying, it's how popular
• 1:46:34
  they are. But then there's there's the factor of of the degree to which
• 1:46:40
  they can depopularize things, and it's it's it's kind of almost uncontroversial to say
• 1:46:45
  at this point that any Badger Radio and and and myself, and and and
• 1:46:50
  Alison and Karen and anyone who as their own channel that they used to make
• 1:46:58
  videos on or still make videos have also been thrown into that bag with with
• 1:47:04
  with with the rest of us, and and I can imagine an alternate universe
• 1:47:10
  where they didn't do that, and and Honey, Badger Radio would be just
• 1:47:14
  as popular at this point as as as Pearl or the Top g or Fresh
• 1:47:19
  and Fit, and they'd be going after us as well, and and then
• 1:47:23
  we really would be on on the FBI's watch list. And I don't know
• 1:47:28
  if I should be thankful that we were, that we were sort of throttled
• 1:47:36
  in shadow Band instead of being allowed to organically grow an audience like so many
• 1:47:43
  of these men's issues, junk food people have have been have been made an
• 1:47:48
  example of, and I in some ways, I guess I'm grateful that we
• 1:47:55
  could stay under the radars so that so that there's a there's no one in
• 1:47:59
  the deep stut who's thinking of assassinating us anytime. But at the same time,
• 1:48:03
  would we be millionaires by now? I don't think if YouTube hadn't,
• 1:48:09
  you know, throttled us shadowbandess and fucked us over. Probably not, but
• 1:48:14
  yeah, it would be It would be nice if we weren't so fucking poor
• 1:48:17
  despite our efforts. I don't know. Yeah, I my from my perspective,
• 1:48:23
  I think it would have made it hard for me to do my day
• 1:48:26
  job might which is actually a night job, but that's another story. But
• 1:48:31
  being mostly anonymous actually has been beneficial for me. Yeah, Like and I've
• 1:48:40
  noticed over the last few years, like you watch a lot of uh,
• 1:48:46
  these mainstream not necessarily YouTubers, but media personalities, whether it's on social media
• 1:48:56
  or bigger media, where they're in any way, shape or form commenting on
• 1:49:02
  men's issues and on feminism and so on. They are addressing things that we
• 1:49:09
  have said, or they are straw manning things that we have said, right,
• 1:49:15
  and it's I don't think that we're necessarily being listened to by the big
• 1:49:18
  wigs. I think that things we have said cause a ripple effect in the
• 1:49:26
  greater social media community if you want to call it that, or population,
• 1:49:31
  where people talk about it. We've talked about it, people who hear us
• 1:49:36
  talk about it go out and talk about it. If you can call the
• 1:49:42
  things that we've said talking points, people share them, people give their own
• 1:49:47
  opinions on things that we've said, and eventually that ripple reaches much bigger people
• 1:49:57
  and it gets those issues into mainstream discussion where people who aren't necessarily active on
• 1:50:03
  social media hear about it and then they have to consider it. And it's
• 1:50:08
  interesting when you have a discussion with people who aren't on social media very much
• 1:50:15
  and they haven't had a lot of discussion about these issues, but you bring
• 1:50:18
  up a particular thing like the disadvantages boys face and education, and the next
• 1:50:25
  thing you know, there is a mom or dad of a boy going,
• 1:50:30
  yes, we have experienced that our son's teacher did X y Z, or
• 1:50:35
  one of the teachers at our son's school just was mysteriously fired and nobody's allowed
• 1:50:42
  to know why. And we think this happened, you know, or something
• 1:50:46
  along those lines. And I think that it's better in some ways for us
• 1:50:56
  to be able to influence in that manner because we get with that ripple effect,
• 1:51:01
  We get back and forth that debate that needs to happen in order for
• 1:51:08
  the best ideas to come to the surface and the dumb ideas to get crunched
• 1:51:15
  and crushed. Then if we just made proclamations and people are like, yeah,
• 1:51:19
  so and so said this, so it must be true, which happens
• 1:51:24
  a lot with bigger names, people will defend things. I've experienced this on
• 1:51:30
  on on Twitter too. People will defend things that not only not only that
• 1:51:36
  Joe Rogan said, but that commenters under one of his tweets said as sort
• 1:51:45
  of Joe Rogan associated or adjacent things, and and will they'll die on that
• 1:51:53
  hill because of the name and the fame, just as much as people like
• 1:51:59
  this will oppose an idea specifically because Joe Rogan said it and he's quote unquote
• 1:52:05
  right wing or whatever and it, whereas with us we don't necessarily have that
• 1:52:14
  big name. So people have to listen to the actual statements that are being
• 1:52:20
  made and consider that. You know, obviously there's still people that knee jerk
• 1:52:26
  oppose anything that involves compassion for men or accountability for women. But it really
• 1:52:38
  is easier to top from the bottom in political commentary. I don't know if
• 1:52:46
  that makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And no, I don't
• 1:52:56
  think the idea is the marketplace of ideas bringing the cream to the top up
• 1:53:00
  as an enlightenment myth. It's more if there if there is something that can
• 1:53:05
  be criticized about an idea, legitimately somebody's going to do it. When there's
• 1:53:12
  an open marketplace of ideas, if there's a flaw and an idea, somebody's
• 1:53:16
  going to point it out. Right. If an idea has less flaws and
• 1:53:23
  people start making up flaws, people are going to point out the flaws and
• 1:53:27
  their arguments, and that does happen in terms of both political ideas and choices
• 1:53:33
  of action courses of action. It works well as long as people are not
• 1:53:40
  punished for criticizing ideas that are popular. But in any case, I think
• 1:53:48
  that we've pretty much the article's done, so I'm going to go into our
• 1:53:56
  super chows and then our super chats and stuff. So our first super chow
• 1:54:02
  actually was at three thirty PM. Zaper gave us fifty dollars. Did not
• 1:54:06
  say anything, So thank you Zapier for the fifty dollars, and that is
• 1:54:12
  much appreciated. Then Meredith g gave us five dollars and at the start of
• 1:54:16
  the show and said, HBr talked two ninety five honey for the badgers.
• 1:54:20
  Richard Bierre gave us five dollars and said, remember that the two daughters of
• 1:54:28
  Lot in the Old Testament also got him drunk in order to take sexual advantage
• 1:54:31
  of him because they thought that they were repopulating the earth because they thought Sodom
• 1:54:36
  and Gomora being leveled. Was the entire population of the world being exterminated.
• 1:54:41
  Yeah, that and obviously that that did not go over well with Lot.
• 1:54:48
  That was he recognized what had happened to him. The Bible actually held them
• 1:54:56
  more accountable. And Christianity's pretty go and eccentric, but the Bible actually held
• 1:55:01
  them more accountable for that than modern society holds women in terms of their their
• 1:55:09
  actions and behaviors. The very idea of attributing everything that happens ever to one
• 1:55:15
  singular god who happens to be male. Now, I know that sounds androcentric,
• 1:55:19
  but when when when you see the effect it has on humans, it's
• 1:55:27
  kind of encourages ginocentrism. Everything that happens is the fault of a patriarch.
• 1:55:30
  You see how that. Now, obviously there's other ways in which Christianity held
• 1:55:36
  back kines centrism, but you know, also pulled it forward. It's it's
• 1:55:42
  very difficult to to walk that tightrope of maintaining everything that works about human nature
• 1:55:48
  and and suppressing everything that might destroy it. But there's always people who take
• 1:55:55
  the wrong things too seriously. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Richard Beierre
• 1:56:01
  gave us five dollars and said women are not as capable as sexual violence reminds
• 1:56:05
  me of the lesbian couple who adopted a boy and then later attempted to do
• 1:56:09
  an at home DIY sex change on him with fatal results. There was for
• 1:56:14
  a while a thing that I hope has stopped where women were adopting boys just
• 1:56:18
  to transition them. And I hate to tell you this, but I don't
• 1:56:24
  think that there's been any indication that that has stopped. But I mean,
• 1:56:30
  women are giving birth to boys just to transition them too. It's there's a
• 1:56:38
  lot of there's a lot of abuse that takes place with Munchausen's by proxy in
• 1:56:46
  regard to women and their sons. The relationship can be very unhealthy and there's
• 1:56:51
  a lot of ways that can happen. And if a woman doesn't fully grow
• 1:57:00
  up, you know, like she never learns to be an adult who has
• 1:57:05
  adult relationships and is the adult in the relationship with her children, Like it
• 1:57:15
  really fucks up a relationship with her son. It fucks up a relationship with
• 1:57:19
  their daughter too. There are other ways in which that becomes abusive. But
• 1:57:24
  yeah, a lot of women have a habit of treating their children as extensions
• 1:57:30
  of themselves instead of developing little people who have their own spectrum of interests and
• 1:57:39
  wants and needs and are going to go off and be themselves as adults.
• 1:57:47
  Richard Beier gave us five dollars and said, if they were indoctrinating children into
• 1:57:51
  becoming moonies to sell flowers for Jesus at airports, would these schools be defending
• 1:57:56
  that as well? Or how about that cult that was indoctrinating the new members
• 1:58:00
  to become hookers for the Lord for the matter, I don't think they would
• 1:58:04
  defend that. Their claim was that it was how they were drawing new members
• 1:58:10
  to their church by doing so. You can crazify anything, but I don't
• 1:58:17
  think schools would have been defending those. They might defend, however, training
• 1:58:26
  little girls to become ethoughts for profit in high school and college as soon as
• 1:58:32
  they turn eighteen. Sadly that actually could happen. Schools are more interested in
• 1:58:40
  turning little boys into ethoughts. Yeah, they're more interested in turning little boys
• 1:58:45
  into little girls. Richard Bierre gave us five dollars and said, is it
• 1:58:49
  really a bad thing that these activists, who are generally useless in society are
• 1:58:53
  taking themselves out of the gene pool before producing offspring the match for the thatch
• 1:58:59
  to match you full for cover up of the gray. Yeah, the BBL
• 1:59:04
  used to be achieved by strategic padding under the skirt. Mm hmm. Actually
• 1:59:11
  they sell they sell fake butts that are attached in your underwear, like you
• 1:59:18
  get it. It's oval shaped pads on the back of underwear. Like I've
• 1:59:25
  seen these, you know, I buy underwear sometimes online and the like sort
• 1:59:31
  of online catalog. I guess you could say the sites that have these,
• 1:59:36
  you know, they show you more than one thing when you go looking for
• 1:59:40
  a particular type of garment. And there are garments now that are are advertised
• 1:59:48
  to hold in fat so well that it makes your when your whole belly is
• 1:59:54
  an audi, it can make it look like an innie. And your butt
• 1:59:59
  can be as flat as a pancake, and it will make it look like
• 2:00:02
  a bubble bud. And yeah, I I just all that stuff. Women
• 2:00:10
  will really do spend billions of dollars a year on that stuff. A lot
• 2:00:15
  of women will spend, you know, just monthly on their beauty products.
• 2:00:18
  They'll spend uh, you know, like a quarter of their income on hair
• 2:00:24
  care, skincare, makeup falsies, all that kind of stuff, and uh
• 2:00:32
  and and not even think of it as frivolous spending. Now, obviously,
• 2:00:39
  women at my income level aren't as able to do that if they have kids
• 2:00:44
  and they care about their kids and their families. But I see women at
• 2:00:48
  my income level doing that to the degree that they can afford, and getting
• 2:00:57
  into debt to do that. They're they're using their their uh twenty four interest
• 2:01:04
  credit card to buy fake fingernails. They're borrowing money to pay for fake fingernails.
• 2:01:15
  So yeah, it's it's a lot of this stuff is just generally useless.
• 2:01:21
  But yeah, I don't know. The thing that bothers me about these
• 2:01:26
  activists. They're not just taking themselves out of the gene pool. They are
• 2:01:30
  taking other people's kids out of the gene pool, and they're doing it in
• 2:01:35
  the sneakiest and most predatory way they can. So let's see we have I
• 2:01:45
  don't see a rumble rant super chats that I I uh caught along the way
• 2:01:53
  as they were posted. We got two of those. Both of them are
• 2:01:58
  from Albert natat trow. Oh, we got three of those. There's a
• 2:02:02
  third one here from Albert Nata Retro. I want to make sure there's not
• 2:02:09
  another one above that. Yeah there is. Okay, so there's some that
• 2:02:15
  I didn't copy over, but I can still see the last one I did,
• 2:02:21
  so, I don't think I missed any in between. So the first
• 2:02:26
  one was from Albert Nata Retro gave us five dollars and said like Canadian and
• 2:02:30
  said, ironically, the biggest pushback came from athletes wives. That was in
• 2:02:34
  terms of the locker room thing. No journalists should be allowed in locker rooms
• 2:02:39
  after the game. Their their job is over. I would say, their
• 2:02:45
  job doesn't have to be over for that to be true, right, you
• 2:02:47
  can make the locker room and no go zone for journalists and give the athletes
• 2:02:54
  some relief and some rest privacy and designate an area, say, all right
• 2:03:00
  after the game, and after they get out of the locker room, they're
• 2:03:04
  going to go here and you can interview with them, like after they've had
• 2:03:11
  some you know, time to shower and get changed in everything. And the
• 2:03:15
  lock the locker room is just like a toilet more so in fact, because
• 2:03:19
  people actually get completely undressed in locker rooms so they can shower and what So.
• 2:03:27
  You don't let journalists into a fucking toilet cubicle, no, no matter
• 2:03:31
  how big and shiny their press passes. Yeah, yeah, I like I
• 2:03:36
  I've always kind of felt like that was too much it's paparazzi esque. In
• 2:03:43
  my opinion, then the difference between journalism and paparazzi is paparazzi don't have any
• 2:03:54
  respect for boundaries at all, whereas a journalist wants to gain information from the
• 2:04:00
  individual that they can share with the public that you know, the public can
• 2:04:04
  use to inform their fandom or you know, their their decision to go to
• 2:04:10
  this event or that event and so on. So you don't have to be
• 2:04:15
  up somebody's butt to find out what they think of how well they did in
• 2:04:19
  the game they just played, you know, or what they're the thing they're
• 2:04:25
  most proud of that they accomplished in the game is, or this record that
• 2:04:30
  they just set, how they feel about it and stuff like that, you
• 2:04:32
  know what they're what they want people to know about it, and maybe how
• 2:04:38
  what led up to it. Like, you don't have to go into the
• 2:04:41
  shower while they're in a towel and talk to them about it. You can
• 2:04:44
  talk to them about it after they come out and and they're in their their
• 2:04:47
  regular day clothes, or you can catch them on the way to the locker
• 2:04:51
  room and get a one liner from them about it. You know, it's
• 2:04:58
  it's maloney, or you can talk to the coat. Oh, you can
• 2:05:00
  wait until the what's it called press conference? They very often have up to
• 2:05:05
  these games. Yeah, like all of that where paparazzi will follow somebody around
• 2:05:14
  and take, you know, five hundred pictures while they're just walking down the
• 2:05:19
  street from their home to the grocery store and back and sell them to tabloids.
• 2:05:25
  And then that's the mildest thing they'll do. You know, they'll do
• 2:05:30
  shit like getting in somebody's face and provoking them until they turn around and you
• 2:05:34
  know, tell them off for it or yell or run away or things like
• 2:05:39
  that, and then make that the story. Or they'll wait until they sneeze
• 2:05:45
  or yawn and then they'll mischaracterize the shot as this person was high when actually
• 2:05:51
  they just were sneezing or yawning. So but it just it's going into the
• 2:05:58
  locker room like that. It strikes me as similar behavior to getting in someone's
• 2:06:04
  face when you don't have to. Then we have Albert Nada Retro gave us
• 2:06:13
  five dollars and said, Hannah, you can't be in the men's rights movement
• 2:06:15
  because you are bisexual. Feel special? Lol? Oh no, I'm a
• 2:06:20
  victimhood. I'm fainting right now. You just can't see it because I don't
• 2:06:27
  use cam. There was that one dickhead in that Twitter space as we did
• 2:06:33
  on Christmas. He kind of you kind of told everyone you get to talk
• 2:06:39
  about this ship because your women and all these trouans don't get to talk about
• 2:06:43
  it either, because that's truth. I'm sure something along the lines of you
• 2:06:46
  don't get to talk about the shit because you're bisexual. Kid. It was
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  Christmas. He well, he was an idiot though he's not really. I
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  wouldn't actually call him part of the men's rights movement because he's not advocating for
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  right. But the quote unquote manisphare or whatever. Yeah, uh and and
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  and his whole thing is being a dating coach, so it's it's contrary to
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  his financial interests if you caution men against uh, trusting that women will not
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  lie about them in relationships and stuff and just jump in, you know,
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  with both feet and stuff, and that that there are there's an ideology or
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  tradition so to speak, that can you can find it can be a fail
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  safe against being taken advantage of by a woman. Seven years in hell,
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  guy, the woman that that lied about him. She portrayed herself very effectively,
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  to the degree that his family all bought it as a family woman,
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  a very traditional, very dedicated, loving and caring person, and then cheated
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  on him with another guy, had that other guy's baby, and when he
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  objected to being cheated on and raising this other guy's kid, then and divorced
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  her. Then she went molistic and became the vexatious litigant when he got protective
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  custody of his daughter because the other guy had had beaten her. Like,
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  this woman just went off her rocker and she has been ever since. She's
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  just it's night and day in terms of the type of person she was.
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  And there were not major red flags prior to that because she was masking herself
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  very very effectively. So, I mean, that's one of those you tell
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  somebody like this guy, this red pill coach dating coach about it, and
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  he assumes that if he had been in that situation, he would have known
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  better, because he's arrogant. The reality is, anytime you're in a relationship,
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  you're taking a risk. Sometimes you decide it's worth it, sometimes you
• 2:09:31
  don't, and it's it's if somebody's shaming you for deciding that it's not worth
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  it. That person doesn't have your best interest in mind. It's up to
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  you to decide what you're willing to risk. Nobody has the right to tell
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  you otherwise. Derek Workman gave us five dollars and said, oh, so
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  a good portion of sons of single mothers are being groomed. Yeah, actually
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  I would I would say that. Yeah, there's been some research into the
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  notion that women actually get off sexually on training their children, and I can
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  believe it. I need to see more conclusive evidence, but I can definitely
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  believe it. They do seem to It's kind it's kind of a form of
• 2:10:24
  munchasms by proxy. It is munchasin's by proxy. Yeah, it's the horrible
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  possible truth. Well, I mean, dysphoria is a mental health condition.
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  So if you convince your child to experience surface symptoms of it and exhibit symptoms
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  of it for the public so that you can get attention, that is textbook.
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  Munchausen is by proxy, so it doesn't have to be sexual for the
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  mother. There there is a degree to which narcissism is just plain feminine,
• 2:11:03
  and femininity is just plain narcissistic, and it's it's a pathological thing. In
• 2:11:11
  my opinion, it's a social not a construct so much as a pattern.
• 2:11:20
  Women are encouraged to like childhood is to a degree by nature narcissistic, and
• 2:11:33
  boys are encouraged more to grow out of it. Girls are encouraged less to
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  grow out of it, and in some ways discouraged from growing out of it.
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  And I think there's a degree to which it's just standard among females to
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  be narcissistic, and so it doesn't have to be sexual for it to feed
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  them because the attention they get for having a trans kid is narcissistic. Feed
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  It's a really awful thing to have to say, you know, you think
• 2:12:16
  about it, but it's I think very true. I think we have one
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  more here. Yeah. Albert Hitterretro gave us two dollars and the comment of
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  the night. I love this comment. They don't let reporters into cops locker
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  rooms, Absolutely true, No, they do, yet they never will.
• 2:12:50
  They might well let have female activists into male cops locker rooms, but it
• 2:13:00
  won't be long before males won't be allowed to apply for them anymore. So
• 2:13:03
  we'll see. Yeah, yep, but yeah stock as munch and by proxy
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  asked Munchausen by proxy, that's horrible, but I do that. I think
• 2:13:20
  that's my favorite comment at the night. They don't let reporters into cops locker
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  rooms. That was fabulous. And that is all of our comments, all
• 2:13:31
  of our super chows, all of our super chats, all of our We
• 2:13:33
  didn't get any rumble rants. So with that, I will thank my two
• 2:13:39
  co hosts for sticking out the long sausage slightly long sausage. By Thursday's Tandar,
• 2:13:48
  well, we went an hour and a half even with being getting a
• 2:13:52
  late start. You know, if it wasn't for the allergy things, you
• 2:13:56
  know, we still would have gotten a late start because right before, like
• 2:14:01
  right as I'm getting ready, like going through the procedure of getting ready for
• 2:14:05
  the show, my computer did a four step date. I updated this morning,
• 2:14:11
  came home from work, took the time to update the fucking laptop and
• 2:14:16
  what does it do as soon as I start working four step date security issue?
• 2:14:24
  Like fuck you, fuck you Microsoft, fuck you very much, but
• 2:14:28
  there you go. And thank you to everyone who came to listen to us.
• 2:14:31
  Even while the Tucker putin thing was going on. Yeah, that that
• 2:14:35
  amazed me. I didn't want to mention until the end because how many of
• 2:14:39
  you have forgotten that that was happening. I mean, that's going to be
• 2:14:43
  it's not getting deleted, it's it's on Uh, it's on a platform that
• 2:14:48
  it's there, so Tuckers dot Com, which you can watch at double speed
• 2:14:54
  by the way, which you should because it's what's on Twitter too. It
• 2:14:58
  is so so Yeah, it being that it's on Twitter, and Twitter asked
• 2:15:03
  for him to be there and has been promoting this. I do. I
• 2:15:05
  don't think it's gonna get taken down, but in any case, Yeah,
• 2:15:11
  thank you very much to everybody who listened to us live, and thanks to
• 2:15:13
  everybody who will come and find us and listen to us later, you know,
• 2:15:18
  for for for coming along and uh catch it up with us to finish
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  this article and everything. And thanks to everybody who works in the background to
• 2:15:28
  make HBr Talk happen. And good night all. Hi, y'all. Word