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NFL Week 9 TNF Showdown | Texans @ Jets | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear, the lift up? What's everyone? Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Tamberline here aka Totagging Tambo back for another edition of
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  Speaker 1: Make sure you're subscribed, and we'll get right to it,
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  Speaker 1: because I had a lot to talk about. The Jets
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  Speaker 1: are back again, Hoop I'll bring you it. First I
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  Speaker 1: looked it up. I was like another Jets game, and
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  Speaker 1: then I just looked at the calendar and they're back
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  Speaker 1: again on November seventeenth. So we just can't shake these
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers slates is going on? Man, how you doing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: It is pretty crazy. I mean the Jets and I feel,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's what are we weak? What are
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  Speaker 2: we in? Week eight? Week nine, week nine? Like they
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  Speaker 2: feel like they've been on like five primetime games. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it is crazy and it is probably true. Unfortunately for
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  Speaker 2: them and the viewers, like it appears they're not very good.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they lost to what the Patriots last week,
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  Speaker 2: so it's been a rough sledding and you know, we're
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  Speaker 2: talking pregame. It's like it's week nine and it's almost
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  Speaker 2: like a must win situation here for the Jets, So
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  Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes. Has not looked good for
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers obviously about the Adams really hasn't done anything.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll break it all down. But the one thing
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  Speaker 2: I'm most excited about it right for this show. On
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  Speaker 2: the other side, the Texans and I finally get to
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  Speaker 2: talk about my guy Dalton Schultz without getting shit on,
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  Speaker 2: like without getting shit up. We talked a lot on
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  Speaker 2: the main slate. You guys give me give me crap
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  Speaker 2: about talking about Dalton Schultz today, don't. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: you guys can give me as much shit. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: see how that goes.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad of Tim and not litl John Metchi the
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  Speaker 1: third We'll talk about that when we get there too.
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  Speaker 1: But it took it takes Nico Collins being out and
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  Speaker 1: Digs to be done for the season for the Dalton
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  Speaker 1: Schultz takes to come alive. Title bring you in. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a good lesson wearing that hat right now for the
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  Speaker 1: I know you're not a super Dodgers famous have the
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  Speaker 1: hat and everyone loves the lid. But how many people
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  Speaker 1: told me that game was over and can't wait for
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  Speaker 1: Game six? And now, Dad, just like in DFS, the
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  Speaker 1: guy has one bad day, you can come back and
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  Speaker 1: ship the whole thing. It was over for those Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: and then it was not. It was over for those
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  Speaker 1: Yankees and a series over, world series win. What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Man? What a crazy fifth inning?
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  Speaker 4: I mean Aaron Judges drops a line out lion pop
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  Speaker 4: to center field that he would catch ninety nine thousand
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  Speaker 4: times out of ninety nine thousand and one Bolby clear
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  Speaker 4: ball takes in the third base made the right play,
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  Speaker 4: just duffs it in the round. Jazz couldn't scoop it,
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  Speaker 4: walks and I mean, I will never understand how does
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  Speaker 4: a guy that throws one hundred percent change ups have
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  Speaker 4: a job in the MLB.
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  Speaker 3: A change up is supposed to change.
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  Speaker 4: From your fastball and get the hit or a problem
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  Speaker 4: when you're throwing eighty seven mile an hour change ups
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  Speaker 4: every single time. These dudes are just sitting on it,
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  Speaker 4: and then the dude could even throw strikes. So I
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  Speaker 4: could not understand any of that. I am not a
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  Speaker 4: Dodgers fan. Was with my man you on the NBA
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  Speaker 4: show yesterday. He had a Dodgor's lid. He's not a
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  Speaker 4: fan either, so I was like, you know what, I'll
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  Speaker 4: show some love.
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  Speaker 3: I like the heat. I think it's sway he got
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  Speaker 3: Jackie Robinson forty two right there too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that been that that inning should go
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  Speaker 2: down like in history, is like the most historic inning
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  Speaker 2: in World Series history. I mean the odds of that
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  Speaker 2: playing out like it did, Like the drop fly ball,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, how many fly balls are hit that or drop?
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's got to be like one in a
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  Speaker 2: thousand or something.
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  Speaker 1: And by the way, like a literally superstar from the
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  Speaker 1: other team.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's a couple steps in right to
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  Speaker 2: you goes off the end, shortstop spikes it into the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Throwing to third is momentum was like going to third.
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  Speaker 2: That was crazy. And then gart Cole not covering first,
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  Speaker 2: pointing too, and that was honestly probably the worst of
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  Speaker 2: them all.
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  Speaker 1: Like we haven't pointing at too. He pointed like who's
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  Speaker 1: covering you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like, you know, my son plays travel baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Like we hammer that in these kids at this age.
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  Speaker 2: Like if it goes to first, you just start going
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  Speaker 2: that direction. Regardless if it's like right at the base
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  Speaker 2: and you think the guy is gonna be able to
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  Speaker 2: just step on it, you still start going in that direction.
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  Speaker 2: His aster there and pointed like what was he.
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  Speaker 3: Pointing at your movement?
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  Speaker 1: You know, Oh man, we're gonna talk some football title.
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  Speaker 1: I'll get your you know, first grand scheme overview. I
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  Speaker 1: kicked it to you on the baseball stuff. Appreciate obviously
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  Speaker 1: all big sports fans out there breaking it all down.
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  Speaker 1: It's great. Was a great MLB season. But we are
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  Speaker 1: back to NFL. We got it rolling week nine here.
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  Speaker 1: First thoughts on this one. Obviously, the big thing is
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  Speaker 1: the news around Diggs, right, you know, tearing his ACL
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  Speaker 1: done for the season, Nico Collins not ready to come
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  Speaker 1: back yet. We are waiting on some kicker news. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, Greg Zurloin hit the IR so they were
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  Speaker 1: they were trying out Strader and Riley Patterson, hoops boy
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  Speaker 1: from from Detroit. I would kind of expect it to
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  Speaker 1: be him, only because he you know, played a bunch
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  Speaker 1: last year. He made like almost ninety nine I think
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  Speaker 1: you know it made almost ninety eighty eight percent or
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  Speaker 1: something of his field goals. Again, he has to still
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  Speaker 1: try out against Trader, but still we'll know that news
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  Speaker 1: before lock. And they're all priced at four point eight K.
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  Speaker 1: But I'll kick it to you title just first thoughts,
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  Speaker 1: Grand scheme overview on this one.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, first, shout out to my guys, stiff at the
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  Speaker 4: apps of twenty two dollars single entry shift all that
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  Speaker 4: you used, right, shout out to you twenty two and
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  Speaker 4: a five K, stiff, awesome stuff. Grand scheme overview, Well,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, man, these Jets have not been good pretty
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  Speaker 4: much season on the line, it feels like and there's
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  Speaker 4: still two point favorites makes sense at home forty two
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  Speaker 4: and a half spread obviously, what stands out you mentioned
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  Speaker 4: and digs Niko is out for the year, Nico still out,
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  Speaker 4: and they did not adjust pricing one bit. Xavier Hutchinson's
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  Speaker 4: still only four K. John Metchi he was great and
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  Speaker 4: college and Alabama should be the guy that gets in
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  Speaker 4: most three receiver sets only two point eight k. Otherwise,
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  Speaker 4: Robert Woods at three K will also get some work.
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  Speaker 4: He's only three k way too cheap. Other side of
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  Speaker 4: the ball, there's no Elan Laizard. So obviously we know
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  Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson DeVante wide receiver one and two. But Mike Williams,
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  Speaker 4: after what three weeks ago when Rogers pretty much a
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  Speaker 4: shit on him, he lost like it seemed like all
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  Speaker 4: trust in the guy. Bazard's been hurt, so he has
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  Speaker 4: to be in three receiver sets. He still is hardly
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  Speaker 4: getting targeted all so we'll get down there. But he's
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  Speaker 4: on the field. So first thing that stands out, Mixon's
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  Speaker 4: a beast. Breese a lot of unknowns, especially after busting
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  Speaker 4: his chalk last week. Baylen Allen getting more work, but
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  Speaker 4: these cheap receivers that are gonna be on the field
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  Speaker 4: is the story of the slave for me. And I
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  Speaker 4: Launcheder takes that quarterback captain like always because you've been buying.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's an interesting slave for it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll talk about for sure. I thought you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna say Brise Tall like you said Joe Mixon's a beast,
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  Speaker 1: and then you got bres Tall over there. There's possibility.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Rio actually our guy. You talked
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  Speaker 1: about him earlier. He mentioned it at the top. When
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  Speaker 1: you say, yeah, this is this is the type of
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  Speaker 1: ugly showdown, say Tamba absolutely loves it is. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: just so sick of these jets, like I said, and
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  Speaker 1: this is where I just get tilted. And I've been
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  Speaker 1: trying to make Tank Dell, Like I've said, tank Dell
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  Speaker 1: back to the well like three weeks in a row
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  Speaker 1: now still doesn't happen. So guess what tonight, back to
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  Speaker 1: the well with Tank Dell. We're doing it again. So
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  Speaker 1: there's him, there's the battle, the big thing for me tonight.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'll kick you hoop for your grand scheme overview,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get to quarterback running back all that stuff
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  Speaker 1: talk through the captains, et cetera. Is that it looks
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  Speaker 1: like everybody wants the running backs in this game, and
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  Speaker 1: obviously for good reason. I'm just in the opportunities they're getting.
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  Speaker 1: Even with Alan getting into the mix a little. Last
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  Speaker 1: game still was a ton I think it was nineteen
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  Speaker 1: or twenty opportunities for Breese Hall Mixon's been all over it.
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  Speaker 1: So when you have Tank Dell, Garrett Wilson, Davante Adams,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. At least that does feel a little bit
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  Speaker 1: interesting too for the captain conversation. But give us your
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  Speaker 1: grand scheme overview for and then we'll dive into the
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  Speaker 1: captains in general.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's tough man. Deciding what to do a captain,
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  Speaker 2: I think is very difficult because the outside of the
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  Speaker 2: running backs, everyone's gonna want the running backs and they
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  Speaker 2: probably end up at high ownership, and maybe like Garrett
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  Speaker 2: Wilson can be thrown in there as well as a
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  Speaker 2: guy that a lot of people want to play. Like
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  Speaker 2: the quarterbacks just don't see them all that appealing, Like
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  Speaker 2: c J. Stroud hasn't had like the big upside that
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  Speaker 2: we saw last year, and he's really not running at all.
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  Speaker 2: Does he take off a little bit more without digs
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  Speaker 2: and without Nico Collins? Like maybe, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you look at these run totals one attempt
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  Speaker 2: five three three three three one four this season, so
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  Speaker 2: and he's not really going anywhere. He hasn't rushed for
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  Speaker 2: over twenty seven yards this season. That's the max for
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  Speaker 2: him this year, twenty seven yards. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You kind of want a running quarterback on the other
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  Speaker 2: side with Rogers. He's obviously his ass definitely is not running,
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  Speaker 2: and he hasn't had the big upside game yet this
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  Speaker 2: year either. So I don't know right now as it
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  Speaker 2: stands like, I'm probably going one of two ways where
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  Speaker 2: I just spread it way out and just like get
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of everyone that kind of appeals to me,
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  Speaker 2: or just narrow it way down and say, give me
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  Speaker 2: the running backs, give me Garrett Wilson, maybe some DeVante Adams,
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  Speaker 2: maybe maybe some Dalton Schultz, who knows, but you know,
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  Speaker 2: narrow it down a little bit to like five guys.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't know. It's a it's a tough decision.
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  Speaker 2: You know, when I ran it, it does kind of
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  Speaker 2: spread it out like a little bit. So I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's very tough. I don't have as strong lee, And honestly,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of captains, what I know the field's gonna do.
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  Speaker 2: It's gonna be it's gonna be Breece Hall, it's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be Joe Mixon, and it's I'm assuming Garrett Wilson because
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  Speaker 2: he's actually played, you know, much better than Devonte Adams
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  Speaker 2: in these first couple of games. So stuff it really is.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how we got it right now, we still
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  Speaker 1: have a you know, heavy Breece Hall effect. After that
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  Speaker 1: it goes to Joe Mixon as you see up there. Again,
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  Speaker 1: this will all change before Locke. We'll have it updated.
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  Speaker 1: We'll have the optimals in there for the flex optimal
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  Speaker 1: and for the Captain optimal, so you can get some
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  Speaker 1: numbers that way. But I do think right now it
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: looks exactly like you said, people are more comfortable with
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  Speaker 1: Wilson than Adams. They just haven't seen enough out of
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  Speaker 1: it yet or they didn't get what they wanted in
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  Speaker 1: the first one, so like I can't be him now.
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  Speaker 1: So definitely think that is some interesting stuff that we
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  Speaker 1: can hopefully exploit and then making Tank Dell work on
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  Speaker 1: the other side showing just low, low double digits right now.
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  Speaker 1: So title, I'll kick it to you. Your captain thoughts
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  Speaker 1: will start there and then see if you hoop and
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  Speaker 1: I can add anything to it afterwards.
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  Speaker 4: My three favorites are gonna be the three best pass
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  Speaker 4: catchers on the slate. Tank Dell, Davante, Adams, Garrett Wilson
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  Speaker 4: all gonna come in with some ownership as you see,
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  Speaker 4: but both running backs will be higher own and buy
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  Speaker 4: a decent bit at the captain spot. So you get
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  Speaker 4: Tank Dell Leversing office, some Joe Mixon. Joe Mixon's not
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  Speaker 4: running it in. Tank has more of a chance to score.
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  Speaker 4: Same thing with Garrett Wilson DeVante. If it's not Breese
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  Speaker 4: getting there, they're more likely. I will throw Dalton Schultz
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  Speaker 4: in there as well as my Probably the low is
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  Speaker 4: own captain that I'll get to. Yeah, forty two and
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  Speaker 4: a half receiving prop solid. I mean whether it's Hutchinson
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  Speaker 4: Metchi woods that and thinks good, but that CJ's looking
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  Speaker 4: at you think.
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  Speaker 3: That he's gonna rely on his old man down the field.
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  Speaker 4: Schultz is fine. I mean the price tag is up
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  Speaker 4: there a bit, which I was surprised about. I think
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  Speaker 4: DraftKings actually got him right where Mechi Hutchinson should be
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  Speaker 4: higher on but two percent almost three percent were shown
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  Speaker 4: at captain.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good with that, CJ.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think I'm gonna get to at captain just
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  Speaker 4: because a it's been really bad for him. He does
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  Speaker 4: have multiple weapons he can go to, like you always
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  Speaker 4: talk about, but with them being so cheap and mechie
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  Speaker 4: Hutchinson mainly those two like if they score then CJ
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  Speaker 4: has a great game, Like I think maybe Mechi would
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  Speaker 4: be on the optimal then or Hutchinson would be on
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  Speaker 4: the optimal. Only rushing prop for Strout is eight and
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  Speaker 4: a half yards. It just feels like if he gets there,
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  Speaker 4: that one of the guys that he's throwing it to
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  Speaker 4: has a bigger game. Is the story I'm gonna tell myself.
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  Speaker 4: I will play some Rogers, though, if you're in on Rogers,
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  Speaker 4: because Garrett Wilson's up there in price Davante's up there,
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  Speaker 4: Rogers is actually cheaper. So even if they go for
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  Speaker 4: one hundred yards or something like that, ninety in a touchdown,
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  Speaker 4: Rogers could still be on the optimal over on if
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  Speaker 4: he throws it to a Conklin or a Rutger or
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  Speaker 4: something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna just cap it at that.
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  Speaker 4: Rogers, the three receivers, Tank, Wilson, DeVante. I am playing
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  Speaker 4: both the running backs, like I said, but I probably
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  Speaker 4: will be underweight to the field because I'll probably jam
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  Speaker 4: the receivers more go overweight that way.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not.
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  Speaker 4: Fading the running backs by any means. And then Schultz
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  Speaker 4: is the last one, So what is that two guys five, six.
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  Speaker 3: I'm good with six seven maybe.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, if even if you got a sprinkle of a seven,
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  Speaker 1: I think that's fine. One note here too, just we've
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  Speaker 1: got it. This is from the season so far. Both
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  Speaker 1: teams do like to pass a lot more. Just another
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  Speaker 1: interesting nugget for you know, when people are looking at
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  Speaker 1: these running backs again, we get it, they get all
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  Speaker 1: the stuff. But I'm with you on the sort of
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  Speaker 1: underweight overweight approach. I think that's exactly how it'll shake out,
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  Speaker 1: because even though those two guys may be my highest
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  Speaker 1: owned or one in three or something, they'll end up
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  Speaker 1: being under what the field is. And that means I'm
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  Speaker 1: still over on Davante, I'm over on Wilson, I'm over
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  Speaker 1: on Dell for sure. So there's gonna be that. And
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  Speaker 1: then the other thing I thought you brought up a
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  Speaker 1: good point and we'll get to my quarterback one now
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  Speaker 1: and then flip it to Hoop is like, I definitely
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  Speaker 1: think Rogers is still in play, but I like that
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  Speaker 1: you brought up a strategy tidbit because not a lot
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  Speaker 1: of people look at it from that perspective. If it's
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  Speaker 1: all Garrett Wilson, then obviously it's gonna be Garrett Wilson
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  Speaker 1: up top, but because he's expensive, and that can limit
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  Speaker 1: you with some of your flex options. If Aaron Rodgers
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  Speaker 1: is spreading it around and he's just a part of it,
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  Speaker 1: that's how it can end up where it is Aaron
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  Speaker 1: Rodgers up top still versus on the Stroud side. If
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  Speaker 1: he's spreading it around, it might be to a cheap Hutchinson,
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  Speaker 1: a cheap Metchie, a cheaper Schaltz, or maybe even a
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  Speaker 1: Robert Woods who by the way, you can't spell Robert
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  Speaker 1: Woods without boo Halloween special for you right there. But
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  Speaker 1: if he is mixing it to these cheaper guys, even
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  Speaker 1: though it's helping him, it's now flipping it where those
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  Speaker 1: guys are getting a lot more points for a lower
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  Speaker 1: captain price, which allows more to get jammed into the flex.
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  Speaker 1: So again, I don't like many people will talk about
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  Speaker 1: that strategy angle or their own process, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's part of it that you brought up there. So
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  Speaker 1: I love that call hoop. Anything you can take away
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  Speaker 1: from that or ething you want to add, just based
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  Speaker 1: on the points made there and some of the stuff
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  Speaker 1: that title talked about.
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  Speaker 2: H Yeah, I mean I still kind of have the
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  Speaker 2: same like opinion, it's just to me I struggle with
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  Speaker 2: with the quarterbacks. I think either one of the running
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  Speaker 2: backs gets there or one of these pass catchers gets there,
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  Speaker 2: so I'll probably be much lighter I think on the
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  Speaker 2: quarterbacks when it's also and done. I get the appeal
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  Speaker 2: with like Rogers because the price, you know, for a
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  Speaker 2: quarterback is cheap, and I think title brought up the
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  Speaker 2: point where some of these pass catchers or pass catchers
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: in running backs are relatively expensive. You know, Adams nine
• 14:38
  Speaker 2: to eight, Wilson nine to six, Breecee Hall ten to four,
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: eleven for Mixing SOT. Aaron Rodgers captain is only thirteen
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: to five. So it does make it easier to get
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: some of those other guys. And I have a feeling
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: if you just go and run it, you will get
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: some Aaron Rodgers because of that price break optimizers are
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: going to want to force in as much you know,
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: Mixing and BRICEE. Hall as you can possibly get, and
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: you know, without sacrificing much as the captain. You know,
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers just kind of fit into those sort of builds,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: so not much has changed.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, That's why I was gonna say too. It's a
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: price build thing, and that kind of makes a ton
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: of sense where you know he's a lot less than
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: the other guys up top. But it still depends on
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: how you think the game is going to go. The
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: total started high, came down to forty two. I think
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: it started at forty four and a half, came down
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: to forty two, and now it's back to forty two
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: and a half. So it just depends on how you
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: see the game playing out there. But title, I'll go
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: to you. Anything else you want to add on With quarterbacks,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I've talked about them. Hoop just talked about you want
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: to say anything else in the quarterbacks? If not, you
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: could take us into the running back position.
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and all of a lot more in the flex
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: I'm going to act stroud, and if I had no
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: Rodgers at captain, I'd be fine with that too. Again,
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: if you're playing one hundred and fifty teams, that would
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: be a different story. Most people probably watching aren't playing
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty running back. Oh gosh, man running
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: back is really tough because the Brail and Allen situation
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: from last week, Joe makes it obviously a phenomenal play
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: ownership that follows both these running backs are the clear
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: best plays on the slates. If you look at how
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: the Jets get beaten, it's more through the ground than
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: the air. The Texans have been good with both, but
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: makes him just has no competition. Damian Pierce isn't playing,
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: cam Akers has gone. Darian Goombawale is just a sheer
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: pass catcher, third down type guy. They're gonna want to
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: ride Joe Mixon, especially with injuries out there really not
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: many bad things to say. Besides, he's popular. Think about
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: how you play him and stuff. You can play him
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: in five ones or one to fives with him being
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: a captain and five jets stuff like that.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: If he does everything.
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I will say, though, it looks like four to two
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Jets and even five to one Jets is a lot
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: more popular than the usually get for five to one.
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: So if you lean heavier Texans even four to.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: Two stuff like that, I do think you get a
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: little different that way. Five to one Texans, I definitely
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: think gets you different. But I mean I'm gonna play
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: some Daria Goombawale because he's very low owned.
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: As we're showing, where is he right here?
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: Flex ownership of three percent, probably six percent, maybe seven percent,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: but especially if they're trailing, if they have to drop
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: back a lot. It is Darry getting those passes, a
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: pivot off of the Mechi's the Hutchinsons.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: Of the world. They're at lower ownership.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: And then Brailn Allen we saw get a good amount
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: of work last week as well. And if this game's
• 17:19
  Speaker 4: relatively low scoring, forty two and a half total isn't great.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: If Breese gets one and Braylan Allen gets one, those
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: who aren't playing together very much, Braylen Allen's price isn't
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: too too expensive.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: I think you could get there that way.
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Probably would prefer if they were both in the flex
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: and like a Briese captain and then Brailan in fleck,
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: because you want Breese to get all the work there.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: But I'll be playing all four of those running backs,
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: and the backup running backs will be relatively low owned,
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: and they're gonna be on the field.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like mixing them into the pool. I don't
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: know if I've got a Briess captain. I'm not too sure.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: I don't. I won't rule it out, but I just
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: don't think I'll get as many of it outside of
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: like a five to one type jets build, because then
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: it's like Breast did all the work, Brailan came in
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: and wrapped it up. I still think he just gets
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: too many much opportunity, so it's like it's hard to
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: go away from that. Like we talked about at the
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Captain discussion, Oh.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: What is his name?
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, someone else say to flip it off and go
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: with it, but he is cheap enough to still get
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: in the mix and be involved, so it's he'll definitely
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: make the flex pool. I think that's, you know, just
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: an update that I'll have that you just added on
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: that made me think about that, and then just looking
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: at the pricing, I was sort of consuming a couple
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: of different thoughts from your earlier ones at the Captain,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And you know, that's what these shows are good for.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Just get ideas we talk about all the time. It's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: not hot takes as much as is picking up process,
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: trying to find ideas and things that we're thinking about
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: when we're building out our player pools and how we
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: want to attack it. So who I'll kick it to you.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Those were some good additional thoughts though, and I'm just
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: thinking of different ways that I can use them within
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: my pool tonight.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So obviously Joe mex in great Plague, I mean,
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: get its more much as you can. I mean, no
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: competition for work goal and he's talked about it. I
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: think it was on the Sunday Show. He's looked really good,
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Like he's looked way better than he ever looked in Cincinnati.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: I mean he looks refrashed, quick, fast, powerful, great play.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: Bres Halid ten four solid option. Although you know Alan
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: did kind of creep into that workload a little bit
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: last week, you know, after firing Solid look like it
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: was all going to Breeze Hall. Well last week Alan,
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: I believe it was twelve I want to say.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: Twenty six and that's for Breeze, nineteen for Brail and
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: seventy four thirty one s foot.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so but when he was out there, he's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: getting work like twelve twelve carries, which is kind of
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: strange that they were playing from behind. There's no like
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: passes or anything, but twelve. You got twelve and forty
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: four hundred on the slate. I'm interested for sure. I
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people probably go to the Houston
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Wide receivers. There's a bunch of them in that range.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: You got Hutchinson, you got Woods, Mechi, all between like
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: four and twenty eight hundred. I do have interest in
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Brayln Allen, And one thing is like they're not afraid
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to use him in key spots too, like if they
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: get in the red zone. So at forty four, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: am interested in. This is a spot where these guys,
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: and rightfully so this season, like these backup running backs
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: or second running backs have not been the key to
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: many of these showdowns slits. But tonight I'm interested in Allen.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: But I'm more interested and I'm not going to try
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: the last name in Dai.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: At at two.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: K flat, they're down pass catchers, third down, he gets
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: out there, two minute warning stuff, He's out there, like
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: I want him at at two k. He could At
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: two k he could get it all done in one drive,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Like if it's if they get the ball out their
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: their own twenty with two minutes to go, he could
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: be out there and pick up like three or four
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: dump offfs and get forty yards. And at two K
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that's enough if he gets four catches, and you'll get
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: some other stuff along. My van's up with like four
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: catches for fifty five yards or something like that could
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: be good enough, you know, nine to ten fantasy points
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: at at two K. So very interested in him, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you know, the ownership's not crazy. I mean it's it's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: in check what we we're showing six percent ownership like yeah,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Like I'm definitely interested in him. So yeah, I guess
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: a little bit different for me on this slate where
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I'm interested in the backups a little more, a little
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: bit more than I typically am in the flex So
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not playing Allen or dari In in captain. It's
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: just flex plays and I'm comfortable getting a good chunk
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of each.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me take it into wide receiver then with
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: that thought, because I think that's another interesting point that
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: just gets brought up that makes me think about stuff differently.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Is it like if you like tanked Dell Dalton Schultz,
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you know the other stuff there? You know, the other
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: side is Mike Williams, who are about to get to
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: in a second. One thing I know from these Jets
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: games is what are we on the third one? Or
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: something like that is his price keeps getting cheaper and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: he still keeps doing nothing. So of course, definitely right,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: it makes sense, it's all correlating. So there's that Gibson
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Malachi Corley who's been on and off the field, in
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and out and all that stuff. Woods Metchie Hutchinson sims
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: like it's just kind of a mess there, which you know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: as my guy Rio said earlier, makes her a good
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: ugly showdown. Slate give us some opportunity to find more uniques.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: But to sort of a couple of different points. One
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: what Hoop just said is if you want to play
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: some of those backup running backs, you now get to
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: load up with the premiere wide receivers, tight ends, quarterbacks,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: running backs, all the stuff that you want to do
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: if you're willing to do that. So I think that
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: definitely makes sense. And then Andrew brought this up. That's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: kind of what we talked about a little bit earlier
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: with titles point. I've got it covered over in the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: slate plan at ship innation dot com as well. But
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: if you want to sprinkle some of those cheaper wide receivers,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: which is rat wide receiver anyway, so the way to
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: do it would be that just be cognizant that when
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: you do it, if you land on an exact fifty
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: K lineup that has the nuts in there with you say, well,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: if everything goes my way, then it becomes a contest
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: selection thing where you know, obviously in the higher dollars,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: smaller field. This conversation I remember perfectly last year Hoop
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: when our guy Mark f won the Millie Maker, it was,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: don't play Justin Watson in the captain because everyone that
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: gets to him is gonna fit the exact same five guys.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: You can basically build the nuts. Well, he not only
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: didn't play Mahomes with Watson and the captain to get
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: a little bit different that way, but he also put
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: it in the forty four to forty four Mega. Not
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: as many people are going to get to that captain
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: in the lottery tonight. There's gonna be a ton of people.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Even at a three percent four percent captain, that's still
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: a ton of lineups, and then there's a bunch of
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: dupes within it. So just keep that in mind if
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you are going with the cheaper captain, but who I'll
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: kick it to you at wide receiver, you know, just
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: to go off your previous thought. Since you're in on
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: those backup running backs, does that mean you have less
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: interest in trying to play wide receiver roulette here with
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: some of these guys.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: No, I think you know, if you're targeting the more
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: expensive captains, if you're gonna be more interested in Joe Mixon,
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: if you're gonna be interested in Breise Hall, Garrett, Garrett Wilson,
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Davante Adams, even the quarterbacks, Like, you're gonna need a
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: lot of cheap guys like to make it work. So
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I think you can get overweight on essentially a lot
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of these cheap options, the Texans wide receivers and the
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: running back. So I will wide receivers just have a
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: built in advantage on DraftKings scoring. I mean, there's just
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: no doubt about it. So anytime, more times than not,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Like I'm gonna have these guys in my playpool and
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna be overweight on them. Who's it going to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: be tonight? Who the hell knows? Hutchinson, Woods, Mechie? I
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: don't know. Like Woods is probably the least popular mechie Hutchinson.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna play him in Captain. It can't work.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: But like you said, though, like when he won that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: that was phenomenal, but that was in a higher stakes,
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: lower number of entry sort of contests where it was
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: able to work today. If you do that, you know
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do some funky stuff to get
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: different because you just typically end on very similar teams.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Like anyone that's doing it, you have a very similar
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: build to everyone else. So hutch and Mechi interested obviously
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: in and then then Woods as well. I'm gonna play
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: them all and you know, probably be over the field
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: on all of them.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Any separator on those like are you gonna say like
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: you can't get them all together? How do you do it?
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: You know, if you're playing CJ. Stroud captain teams, I'm
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: fine multiple, but you know in most teams I don't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: think I want multiple? What are the props? Have you
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: looked at the props title? I know you look this
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: stuff up. If you looked at the gardage props on
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: these guys, what it looks? Not great? And any of
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: them it's the one stand out or anything.
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: MATCHI twenty two and a half, Hutchinson nineteen and a half,
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: Big Mic eighteen and a half, Way seventeen and a half.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: The only one above the only ones above thirty is
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Schultz and then those name three. Breeze has a high
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: receiving prop than all those other dudes, and Dixon is
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: tied to Cocklan and bought those three receives.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Damn. Okay, So what's so let's let's check out ownership.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: So we're showing Hutchinson at thirteen, MATCHI at eleven, then
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: Woods at five. So based on those numbers you gave
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: me right there, Woods is probably the best option or
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: best leverage because he has very similar prop to those
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: other guys, and he's coming in at a third of
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: the ownership. So that's one thing that stands out Robert Woods,
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: and he's been in this offense like he probably knows
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: it a little bit better than those other guys. So
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: maybe Woods out as a play here. Obviously Wilson Adams
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: tanked Dell. You know, I'll probably I will probably end
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: up playing all those guys in captain in flex and
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Mike Williams saying like, for me, the only way I'm
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: playing Mike Williams is if I get to Aaron Rodgers captain.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: If I get to Aaron Rodgers captain, I will include
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Williams in the playpool. I'm probably not getting to Aaron
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Rodgers captain. Therefore, I'm probably not getting to Mike Williams. Like,
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: once you lose the trust of Aaron Rodgers, your ass
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: is done. And he made that dumb ass play what
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: two weeks ago, zero targets last week, Like I'm good.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it looks, it looks crazy, thirty six hundred
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Mike Williams, but he's just not a part of this
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: offense anymore. If he's thrown a deep ball, it's probably
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: going to Devonte Adams now, not Mike Williams. The reason
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: we made the case for Mike Williams early on in
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: the season is they didn't have the down on the
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: field threat and now they kind of they kind of do,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: and they have multiple and you know, I'll throw Garret Wilson,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: a little more possession type receiver, but you know he
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: gets some some deeper stuff too. But with Davante there,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I can't imagine he's gonna choose to throw it to
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: Mike Williams deep over Davante at this point. So not
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: a ton Mike Williams. And again, the only way I
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: would get to him is if I'm playing Aaron Rodgers captain,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: and I don't really anticipate getting there tonight.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, tit I'll kick it to you same topic, your
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. You got those props up. Mike Williams actually
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: had like a twenty one prop on my book, which
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: is sometimes more than those Houston guys. But it's, like
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Hoop said, just such a tough click. So what's your
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: thoughts at wide receiver?
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, clearly just seven in play the four that we're
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: showing top four in the stone for Texans, three for
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: the Jets, and I'm in agreement.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Mike Williams is not.
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: If I'm only building a couple of teams, I'm not
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: getting any mite for all the reasons Soop said, Rogers
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: is the last guy you want to get on the
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: bad side when he's throwing the football and choosing who
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Texan side. I love the point who made about Robert
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: Woods and the ownership he did out snap Metchi. Obviously
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Diggs played a good amount of that game, but when
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: he did leave Woods in twenty four, snaps Mechi had twenty,
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: which is interesting, and they do do some three receiver sets.
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: Hutchinson is by far my least favorites, because I mean,
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: he's just a cardio dude out there, like I look
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: at him like Mike Williams. He just doesn't get many targets.
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: He's in the outside. He's a fine blocker. It's either
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Tank Dell, it's Shoultz, it's mixing. Just doesn't feel like
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: he has any rapport, any care to throw it to
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: this Hutchinson guys. So I'm not saying I'm not playing him,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: but I prefer Mechi. I mean, he was a stud
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: at Alabama before he tore his ACL. Totally good with him.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: I think he's out of him Woods and Hutchinson. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: think Mechi by far is the most upside, should run
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: majority of his routes in the slot. Woods at a
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: third of the ownership is interesting though, so obviously Tank
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Garret Wilson DeVante I said I'd have a lot of
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: Captain Machan.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Woods would be my two favorite.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: After Yeah, I think I agree with you. And you know,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: the Woods versus Mechi stuff is quite interesting. Two undred
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: bucks more. We're talking flex here, so two hunder bucks more.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: There's a potential for Mechi to keep getting steamed up
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: as we get closer to the and I just think
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Woods could be again everyone's just gonna say old man
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: Bob Woods, and I mean you can already see the
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: discord lighting up with the Bob Woods stuff later on
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: this evening as everybody's eating their chocolates and their candies
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: and whatnot. So I know it's coming. And that's what
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: makes me think about if you're gonna get an ownership discount.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: They sometimes slide the old man into the slot a
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: little bit and start working.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Him that way.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: He's picking up you know, ten yard chunks, three catches,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: thirty yards, all this stuff, and then he just gets
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: a touchdown or something and just breaks it wide open
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: for that price tag. So I like that call quite
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: a bit, actually, And then I'm gonna be big on
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: the other three that you talked about, but certainly sticking
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: with my guy Dell, I just think, you know, we're
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: still waiting for a game him and Straw will connect
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: on one, and this could be the spot to do it.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: There's some stuff, you know, obviously they pass a lot,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: there's some injuries in his favor. Now I like just
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the Dell Schultz stuff, and we're gonna go to tight
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: end a second, but avoiding some of these guys too,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and using hoops back up running backs that we talked
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: about earlier where you could fill your lineups out that way,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: get the goods at the other stuff, use the backups
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: for the cheap options at running back where everybody else
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: is mostly plugging in wide receivers.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: Oop.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Other thoughts.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: We're gonna be calling him Boxwoods tonight, baby, because he's
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: getting in the he's getting in.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: The let's go, He's doubling down on needs.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Dude, I got a new new side. I got a
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: new side. I got more to come. Stay tuned.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, take us to Titan. Everybody's been waiting
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: on this anyway.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Oops.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: I'll let you go again first, but wait waiting on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: the Schultz rant. Give it to us here, Dalton, Yeah.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I mean it's nothing too exciting, it's bad.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I think it's better.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: It's better content on the full slates in the prime
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: time because you know, I talk and talk about my
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: boy Dalton Schultz all the time, and it has not
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: been It has not been a fun ride if you've
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: been heavy on Adulton Schultz this year. But I think
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: he gets it back. Is it still okay? So if
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: National tight End Week started on Sunday, does that mean
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: it's still go? Because Sunday New.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Week Day, first of all, and we even let it
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: trickle into Monday, because we now it's cut off, but
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: it's definitely cut off off front of you cut it off.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: None of those titans that ship on Monday, did they no?
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: And it was good everyone for long on Sunday, Yay, Sunday.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: That was it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well all right, I can't play that narrative,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: but we can play the narrative that they're without their
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: pass catchers. The price is up there seven K, so
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: maybe people don't get there. If he was like forty
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: five hundred or somewhere, his price normally should be on
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: this late I'm guessing he would get massive ownership. But
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the seven k, it kind of like because it is
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a price, and you got to do something. There six
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: targets last week, you know, four receptions, fifty two. If
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: he finds the box, you know he's looking at like
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: fifteen sixteen fantasy points. I'm just going to be I'm
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: in on him in a big way today. You know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: ownership will follow a little bit. But again, the up
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: priced here a little the upper the higher price than
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: we typically see or what it would be if these
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: wide receivers weren't out, I think would increase ownership so
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: I think ownership remains in check because it is up
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: there at seven K. So in on Schultz again, especially
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: if you're playing those CJ. Stroud captain teams. I think
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: he's a perfect fit, but I'm gonna play a lot
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: of him. I think Conklin's a fine option at fifty six,
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and those are only two guys on playing like the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: the you know Stover Rocker guys like that, Like I
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: just want those wide receivers instead of wide receivers and
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: backup running backs instead of these guys. So I don't
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: see myself getting to watch It's Schultz in a big way.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Conklin I'm good with, and I think they're both sawid options.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Jeremy ruckerd might slide into a few there. He's
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: been getting in the mix a little bit. But Conklin
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: with no Lazard is definitely a thing Nad's just brought
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: up in the chat. I think that could be a
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: possibility as well. Title what do you think of with
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: these tight ends tonight? And then comparing it against some
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: of the other stuff we talked about, like these mid
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: range backup wide receivers are a little bit cheaper for sure,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: but do you have a better feeling with like Schultz
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: and Conklin and those guys.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: So Schultz has to get some ownership because he's in
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: his own tier and pricing. The next highest is Rogers
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: at nine K. The next lowest is Conklin at five
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: to six. Like that, we don't get that every day
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: on this So he's naturally gonna get sung. But I like,
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna use him in a way of you can
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: leave two k plus in any lineup. Why can't he
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: outscore Rodgers, Devonte Wilson, CJ.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Breeze, et cetera.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: You make a pivot right there and showdown and that
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: could be eighty dupes down to two dupes or something
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: like that. So, and Schultz is receiving prop forty two
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: and a half, not bad at all. Can obviously find
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: the box Conkland. He has kickers cheaper than him, and
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: defense is cheaper. Yeah, I mean he's gonna be lower owned,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I think than those guys. Five point six k feels
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: a little expensive, but I mean you can leave drop
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: down Schultz to Conklin fourteen hundred right there, cuts out dupes.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nate's likes Conkland.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: It's a good point. Yeah, I mean, he could be
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: the one that benefits from it the most. I mean,
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: that's a that's definitely a solid point.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: We've seen him have games where it's just racking it up,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like ten targets or something, and its possibility. So I
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: think that's interesting. Go ahead, title, sir, I just I
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: want to bring that up. I definitely think yes.
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: Well, the Stover and Rucker plays, like if you look
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: at their ownership on the stone and compare him to
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: the Mets' Hutchinson's all that out of the world.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: Another thing if you're trying to solo ship like pivoting
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: from them.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Rutgert has played at least thirty percent of snaps every
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: single game this year twenty three. Last game they run
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: some two tight end sets. The other side was Stover
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: fifty two Week six, forty eight percent Week seven, forty
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: eight percent Week eight. They're running a lot more two
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: receiver sets, obviously makes sense with two of their best
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: receivers down. Again, if he falls in the box, We've
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: seen it way more last.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Year on these random tight ends we're falling.
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: We haven't seen as much this year, but it's clear
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: cheaper and pivots from the Mechies woods of the world
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: in a vacuum, the receivers are way better play if
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: you're trying to solo ship all the cheese today, that's
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: another pivot I think you can make.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: So how I'm looking at tight end position. Am I
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: in love with any of them?
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: No, but game theory wise, leaving money on the table,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: I think they offer a lot of at their ownership,
• 34:49
  Speaker 4: offer a lot of interesting spots.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Man best first name in all of football, and the
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: seeing Conklin stance for captain. We can get Tyler Kank
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: and right up to the top here tonight. I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: now that I'm thinking about it, just looking at some
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: of the builds and seeing it, so I like that call. Actually,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: now I know Hoops on the Schultz side, I love
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: what Hoops said about it. You know his ownership is
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: going to stay in check. I do think title you
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: brought up a great point that when people just land
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: in that zone, he's naturally gonna get steamed up because
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: of that. But unlike you know, if he was forty
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: five hundred or fifty five hundred, like Hoop was mentioning,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: that's where you really see him just get cranked up.
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Now people have to make an actual decision do they
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: want him. It's also something to be said too. If
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: you land on Conklin or sorry, if you land on Schaltz,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: you can go down to Conklin on the opposite side
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: and leave the money, and that's you don't have to
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: go tight end for tight end. I'm just saying an example,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: or that's another one where if you land on Schultz
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: and you're in that same zone, you could just go
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: down to Wood's matchie something like that, where you're saying, look,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: it's tough. I definitely like Schultz more, but I know
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: this thing's going to be duped up because I'm only
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: leaving a hundred bucks or I'm maxed out or whatever
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: on the table, even in single entry or something like that.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's still a good strategy because you're really
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: only needing one over the other. And I honestly two
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: tunnel just kick it back to you on this it's
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: an NFL show. But man, I've been starting to notice
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: that a little bit with MMA strategy, Like if you MMADFS,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: it's like, look, I got this fighter is nine k,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: his matchup is eighty two hundred, it's eight hundred bucks.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: I'm obviously going to be duped like crazy. If I
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: leave it, that's a smaller field of guys to work with.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: But the reason I bring it up is because not
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: the same with correlation, but the same with the smaller
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: field size and showdown. We already have a small field
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: and then we're cutting it down at every position to
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: say there's only two guys here, three there, whatever. So
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: it reminds me kind of that. Actually, it's interesting.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: I compare mma to MFL Showdown a lot, and a
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: lot of it is because you have less people to
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: choose from. It's more of a dupe game theoriespoard, and
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: that's why every sport is different. Yesterday, I love talking
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: MBA with Rio, Like we're talking. You don't make a
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: one v one pivots right in the same range. This
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: guy's way higher own, but you don't give up six
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: projection points. You find a two v two or something
• 36:54
  Speaker 4: and look at ownership that way. Even NBA Showdown, you
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: don't necessarily drop Austin ree Is down to Dalton Canet
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: or something just because yeah, you'd be a lot like,
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: but the projection.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Is something on an average slave leave five k. Let's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: just see, like that's crazy because you need all those points.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: But in something like this, it just reminded me heavy
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: of that. So I love that. Just a bit of
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: an analogy there and just the way to piece up
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: these games. A lot of people ask questions about that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: of like how you you know, how do you do
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this at other sports and not knowing it. The game
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: theory kind of lives the same. I don't know, Hoop,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: if you've got other thoughts. If not, you could take
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: us into the Kickers and D's. I already brought up
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: the point I haven't seen anything yet on the zerloin
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: being on the IR. Like I know it's between Schrader
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: and Patterson. I suspect Patterson, but really doesn't matter. Put
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: either of them in your lineup and just global swap
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: or whatever you want to do. But it's it's up
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: to you Kickers, d and anything else you want to
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: talk about.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a piece of news, definitely to monitor. Probably
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: looks like it's going to be Patterson, but you kind
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: of have to wait and see. And like you said,
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: you could, you don't have to wait on this news.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: If everything else is out and you feel good about
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: your teams, you can plug one in and make the
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: pivot if need be. But for me, yeah, I mean it's,
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: you know, nothing crazy, like, you know, whatever, I get
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: a defense, I suspect it probably won't be much today.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: It's just such a high variance position. Like if someone
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: tells you they know what's gonna happen with with you know,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: the defenses, like they don't, they're lying to you. It's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: just so random. So if I need, you know, I
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: guess Jets defense probably is more popular because they're what
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: thirteen hundred dollars, They're definitely gonna be more popular. Thirteen
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: hundred favorites, yeah, thirty yeah, Yeah, the Jets defense is
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: gonna be actually gonna have some ownerships now that I
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: look at this. They're cheaper, much cheaper, thirteen or twelve
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars cheaper, and their favorite and they're at home.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: So Jets defense I think does get some ownership, probably
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: a decent chunk, to be honest with you. Uh, Texans
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: at forty six probably come in substantially less owned. We're
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: showing thirteen for the Jets definitely gonna be higher than that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I guess, probably into the twenties, and then the Texans
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: fourteen could be right, but not a ton of interest.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Whatever I get, I get you guys know how I
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: do it. And then kicker. Yeah, definitely good with both
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: these guys. And you know, their ownership probably remains in
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: check a little bit because their priced there with all
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: those cheap wide receivers that people are going to want
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: to play. So nothing crazy for me at either position.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: I was just looking at DraftKings. Why do you think
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: title they made? Why is Tyrod Taylor eight K tonight?
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: You know always it's always backups at six K?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Do they know? Sometimes they do that if quarterback has
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: any sort of injury designation. That's the only time I've
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: noticed that if there's some sort of injury thing with
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the quarterback. But that's not the case. It's definitely not
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: the case tonight.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: So it makes Achilles gate two point zero or something
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: like what's going on here in Tampa one team. I
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: didn't lock ones the other night, even after I talked
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: about it, I couldn't do it. So all good there,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: But maybe that is an interesting thing just to look at,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: but not for me. Title anything with the kickers and
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the d's for you on this one. I know who
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: brought up some points that I think are true specifically
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: on the Jets side of things, But that's you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting because that would also make I guess,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: although we're not showing much at Captain, but I guess
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: that would make less people play Joe Mixon at Captain,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: like if there's good tech, not less overall. But I'm
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: saying that could keep that number in check. If there's
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: gonna be more Jets D and Flex, not as many
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: people are gonna put that against from a natural standpoint,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: A lot will actually rule it out. So just quick
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: quick talk on the Kickers and D.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, just like who talked that pricing for Jets compared
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: to Texans is just wrong as home favorites and I
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: also have we have it too. We have Hudginson and
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: Jets D the same, and then them above every other
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: cheap receiver we talked about. I have Jets higher or
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: projecting than all of those guys, and he's cheaper than
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: like the Hutchinson of the world and stuff.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: So Jet's definitely.
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Gonna get ownership, whereas Texans will be pretty low owned.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: The thing is, I don't love.
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: Texans D by any point, but hey, we saw it
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: on Monday. Kelvin Austin returns a kick. Well, you have Steelers,
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: d take your six points for doing absolutely nothing. They're
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: so so random one pick six or something. I prefer
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: kickers today. The defenses will play some Jets. The Texans
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: I don't love in a vacuum, but they could very
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: well be seven percent, and that's.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Always a pivot.
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's That's kind of the way I'm feeling it.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: The way you guys both brought up is how I'm
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: feeling on the slate for this one.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: I do think Jets Captain could get up there a
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: little bit more than what we're showing, and it's not
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: gonna be enough to talk about. But I think the
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: other thing is, you know, just the overall grand scheme
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to round it out, at least for me, is if
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: you look at the you know, the build types. We
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: already talked a little bit earlier on the four, two s,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: three threes, that sort of thing. The five ones are
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: already gonna be, you know, pretty unique, I think on
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: this slate versus the overall you know, over arching build type.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: And I will say that if I was going the
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: five to one, that's you know, where the defenses would
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: get involved. That's something that I would definitely consider, maybe
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: more on that in the slate plan over on the site,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: but that's about the only way I'd get to them
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: is gonna, you know, gonna be a heavy five to one,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: four to two type of build hoop. Any final thoughts
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: from you? If not, you could talk about some Fandel.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing really to add on to those points. Fandel
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: is interesting. There's definitely some pricing things that stand out.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I mean mixing and Breece Hall. There's a two thousand
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: dollars difference between the two of them. I'm Fandels sixteen
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: to five for mixing, only fourteen to five for Breece Hall.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: And then you go to the quarterback position, another two
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars gap. CJ. Stroud up there at fifteen k
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers thirteen thousand. So I think that's very interesting.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, the ownership is going to follow the cheaper guys,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: the Jets guys, the Jets. Breece Hall is going to
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: be higher on the mixing, and then Aaron Rodgers is
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: gonna be much higher on than C J. Stroud because
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: of those price breaks. They go a long way. DeVante
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: Adams all the way down to ten five like ten
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: to five, Garrett Wilson's thirteen to five, three thousand dollars
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: difference between Adams and Garrett Wilson, and then Tank Dallas
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: kind of in the middle of those guys at at
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: twelve K. So that's very interesting. Dalton Schultz eight thousand
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: dollars like eight thousand for my boys, Schultz without all
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: these pass catchers. Bad price on on On Schultz. I mean,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: I know I stroked the guy every single week, but
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: that's just that's a that's a bad that's a bad
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: price tag. There's just no doubt about it. Conkland seventy
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: five hundred. I think that's too cheap. We talked about
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Complict Conkland, and we all kind of liked them. I
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: liked them over on DK. You're gonna love them at
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: seventy five hundred on FanDuel. And then the cheap Wide,
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: I guess one's not cheap. Cheap Wide receivers. For the Texans,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: they have Hutchinson at ten K, ten thousand. Hutchinson is
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars cheaper than Davonte Adams. I'm FanDuel five
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: hundred dollars cheaper than Davonte Adams, Like, can you imagine
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: clicking that name, Like could you click I don't know
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: if it's possible to click that. Then Metchi at seventy
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: five hundred, and our guy box Woods Robert Woods seven
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: k flat, like, that's that's cheap, Dare sixty five hundred.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: So I think it actually is somewhat interesting on FanDuel
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: with like the pricing differences, because there are quite a few,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: and those are ones that stand out, and I say
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: they're they're pretty substantial, you know, price differences for sure.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's crazy, like I said, And I
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: guess you build a lot more over on FanDuel for
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: these slates, you know, the showdown stuff especially, But like
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: it's just a guy like Hutchinson probably just can't get
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: into your pool right at that price. G it's impossible
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: because you've got DeVante Adams there, even if I know
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you could technically play both obviously, but my point is
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it's probably very unlikely when you can get a Dell,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: like a guy like Tank Dell, not a Deell Tank
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Dell in there, Garrett Wilson, you can get some other
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: guys in there that are just a little bit more right.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Just a bad price. I mean it's like, even if
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: he finds the end zone at ten k, like he
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: probably needs to do more than that at ten k,
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Like he's gotta he's got to outscore Davante Adams, Like
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: could he do it?
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I mean it's possible because NFL, it could definitely happen.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: But that's just one example. And ah man, I yeah,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: I can't.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: I can't click all right, title any final thoughts on you?
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: Anything else you want to add there?
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: With the FanDuel stuff, Again, I don't plan fandel because
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: I can get enough vogue on DraftKings.
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: I think it's way better. But for every showdown we've
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: talked about, I think this is probably the.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: Most interesting one that FanDuel's had because you have a
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: variety of captain plays you can go to, Like Nixon
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: will still probably be the highest owned, but he's fifteen
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: hundred more than all of them. Why can't Tank, Garrett Wilson, DeVante,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: either Quarterback Breeze get their MVP. So I think MVP
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: ownership will be spread out more than usual. And you
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: also have, like you can play these cheap five five
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: guys like Stover we talked about, he's almost mid price
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: like he's gonna be on the field, Rutgert's gonna be
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: on the field only six k, Dari six y five
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Woods and Mike seven k. So like you can leave
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: money on the table, which isn't always the case in FanDuel.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: You can play multiple MVPs, and I think both defenses
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: will be a little overlooked. Raylan Allen at nine to
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: five is also right by Hutchinson. Both of them are
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: going to be extremely low on, Like if Brayling, I
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: prefer Allen to Hutchinson because if he gets in Breese
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Shawk goes down other Jets stuff bust.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: And that just mixes up the whole slate there. So
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Hoop did a good job.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, I think it's a good call. And I
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: think the other thing interesting we have the ownership this
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: way and I think it probably will come in that
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: way is just how much cheaper Hall is as a favorite.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: People just naturally end up there. So I like mixing
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: captain or mix an MVP story over on FanDuel. I
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: think that's another one to go. The chat was kind
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: of on it, like our guy Sean shout out, the
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: HM says crazy that the Jets are favorite after playing
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: like straight Cheeks lately. You know, a five to one
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: mix and you can do a four to one mixing
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: over on FanDuel with the way that pricing sets up
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: where you're kind of paying up for probability. The fact
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: that he's two thousand bucks more on FanDuel for the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: MVP slot is gonna make it so he comes in
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: lower own than Breese Hall. So definitely think that's interesting
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: and that you could fill it out a bit different
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: down below, And then of course you can easily leave
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: you know, five, six, seven thousand on the table on
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: FanDuel if you're trying to find a unique way.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: To the top.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: We did have a two way chop the other night,
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I should say sixty two five. If there was ever
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: going to be another one like that, it would be tonight.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: This is the type of slate with two ugly teams,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: ugly spots when it comes to, you know, choosing who
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: you're going with, and then also you get those price
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: discrepancies on top of things like Hoop nailed that kind
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: of makes it just that much better. So, like I
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: always say, FanDuel sucks, but Hoop crushes there. Maybe tonight
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I'll get over and try and join my boy Hoops
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: there on some FanDuel stuff. It's Halloween. Crazy things can
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: happen on a night like this. Title, anything else at
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: all you want to mention before we get out of here.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you go on fandel to day who goes on
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: FanDuel And I'll try and get three hundred k without
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: YouTube and then.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: We'll be still that's the difference. So yeah, we'll still
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: be there, but definitely definitely get that point, Hoop. Anything
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: you got to add, anything else you want to talk
• 47:39
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• 47:41
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• 48:09
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• 48:11
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