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93 Humanoids: Alien Beings or Ancient Earth Inhabitants? · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey guys, welcome back to the show. This is episode
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  Speaker 1: ninety three with Albert Rosales. I did best up his
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  Speaker 1: name a couple of times. You know, it's sometimes that
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  Speaker 1: just something gets in your head. I kept calling somebody
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  Speaker 1: bill Ward the other day, which is the drummer from
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  Speaker 1: Black Sava, So you know, it happens sometimes. No disrespect meant,
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  Speaker 1: it's just I think I'm just getting old. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: so Albert kim one and he was talking about his
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  Speaker 1: experiences growing up in Cuba. Some very interesting things happened,
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  Speaker 1: some lost time. His family didn't find him for like
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  Speaker 1: a couple hours, and then he just showed up and
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  Speaker 1: he didn't know where he was and they were he
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  Speaker 1: was sweating. It's really weird. He's also an accomplished author,
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  Speaker 1: has many many books. You can go down into the
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  Speaker 1: description below and get those if you're interested. He's a
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  Speaker 1: collector of many stories of UFOs strange encounters that he
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  Speaker 1: then translates and puts into his books. So really cool guy.
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  Speaker 1: Really had a lot of fun with him. He has
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  Speaker 1: some good laughs in the episode. Remember every Friday we
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  Speaker 1: guys enjoyed this episode with Albert.
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  Speaker 2: Rosales Hi, man, it's thanks for having me, Thanks for coming,
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  Speaker 2: Thanks Albert, Albert Salez.
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  Speaker 1: What was I saying, Robert the whole time?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? My lord, you said it once just now. But
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  Speaker 2: it's fine.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of my It's one of those things where, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's another guy I had on his name
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  Speaker 1: was His name is Thomas Ward, but I kept thinking
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  Speaker 1: of Bill Ward from the Drummer from from Black Sabbath.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm Terro with names. Suto, don't worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, man, It's just one of those things that
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  Speaker 1: happens when you get older. I suppose, uh, please do
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  Speaker 1: me a favorite Albert and tell us a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about yourselves, about yourself better said, where we can find you,
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  Speaker 1: and you know what you're promoting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I uh, I'm been involved with the
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  Speaker 2: UFOs and unusual phenomenon now for a long time, ever
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  Speaker 2: since I was a kid, and back then when I
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  Speaker 2: was a kid, I was. I was born in Cuba
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  Speaker 2: back in nineteen fifty eight. I lived there to about
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  Speaker 2: right after the Cuban missile crisis when we almost blew
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  Speaker 2: the world up, and we moved to Miami like all
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  Speaker 2: the Cubans did. And I've been there now for almost
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  Speaker 2: sixty years. But when I was I remember being a
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  Speaker 2: kid in Cuba. I lived in Santa Clauda. I was
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  Speaker 2: in the center of the island. I experienced a couple
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  Speaker 2: of strange incidents, which back then I couldn't really relate
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  Speaker 2: them to anything that I that I could connect to.
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  Speaker 2: I remember one night, I don't know this, I was,
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember how all I was, maybe five or six.
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  Speaker 2: I got up in the middle of the night. There
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  Speaker 2: was a passage where inside my house and there was
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  Speaker 2: a large mirror on the side, and it was like
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  Speaker 2: a hallway to go to the restrooms. I walked by
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  Speaker 2: and I looked at the mirror, and there was somebody
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  Speaker 2: in the mirror looking down at me or stare me.
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  Speaker 2: It was like I was small. So I looked up
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  Speaker 2: and there was it looked to me like a man
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  Speaker 2: with a beard, black beard, and he was grinning. He
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  Speaker 2: was like laughing. And this guy was wearing a helmet,
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  Speaker 2: which I the only thing I could describe a helmet,
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  Speaker 2: or compare the helmet with. Remember the Spanish gonna kiss
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  Speaker 2: the doors, Yes, yes, something like that, And I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know in Cuba there were the Yeah Cortez and
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  Speaker 2: uh Baga they killed the Indians and then they left.
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  Speaker 2: But anyway, I was scared. Of course I ran and
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  Speaker 2: walk up my parents. They didn't believe me. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: they never believe you when you're there. So another incident
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  Speaker 2: that I recall. It was a little maybe a year
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  Speaker 2: after that. Uh. During that time, there were a lot
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  Speaker 2: of blackouts. There's still ours as far as I know.
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  Speaker 2: And we were sitting outside the family and the neighbors
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  Speaker 2: playing dominoes, drinking coffee, and we all look across across
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  Speaker 2: the street over the houses. There were something flying big light,
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  Speaker 2: and within the light you could see like an object.
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  Speaker 2: But that looked like an egg metallic. It was so
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  Speaker 2: clear we could all look at it. We're all looking
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  Speaker 2: at it. Of course, back then, everybody that was there,
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  Speaker 2: the adults at least, started screaming and yelling that it
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  Speaker 2: was the the Americans are coming, you know, to invade. Finally,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there and but it didn't look like a
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  Speaker 2: helicopter at all. You know, I was small, I could
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  Speaker 2: tell it wasn't a helicopter. See. And then everybody is
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  Speaker 2: forgot about it, and it kept doing what they were
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  Speaker 2: doing except for me. I kind of follow it because
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  Speaker 2: it was kind of low. As a crossed the street,
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  Speaker 2: I walked under it. There was a field behind my house,
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  Speaker 2: and I stopped there and I'm standing there looking up
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  Speaker 2: at the thing. And the next thing I know was
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  Speaker 2: my mother grabbing me. Where you been?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, And I was like all wet that I remember.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know I was, I couldn't remember. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how much time passed because back you know, I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know. So she said I've been looking for you
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  Speaker 2: for dinner, and blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I.
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  Speaker 2: Went to bed without dinner. I know there were everybody
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  Speaker 2: was pissed off of me because I was lost, I
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  Speaker 2: guess for how long. I don't know. What did I see?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. But another weird event, this is also
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  Speaker 2: in Cuba. For some reason, when you know as a child,
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  Speaker 2: you're open more in to lease type of incidents.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if your parents answer absolutely. When I
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  Speaker 1: was eight, I had a politic iict encounter that no
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  Speaker 1: one believe me either, So yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Right, Well anyway, this this one was a little maybe
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  Speaker 2: a year after that one. We went to a beach,
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  Speaker 2: kind of an isolated beach called El Salto, not Barileto Salto.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, we were there, we were camped there, and
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  Speaker 2: I went out by myself like I used to always did.
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  Speaker 2: I used to walk away from myself and then and
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  Speaker 2: and uh, there were you know, there were a lot
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  Speaker 2: of holes on the ground and were there were some
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  Speaker 2: dunes and there I saw a lot of holes on
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  Speaker 2: the ground like the ones that the crabs make, you know, craveles. Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: these for big and all of a sudden, out the
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  Speaker 2: out of the these holes, uh, something's coming started coming
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  Speaker 2: out that to me, it looked like huge crabs with
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  Speaker 2: big eyes coming out. But I said to myself, these
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  Speaker 2: are huge. It's a big crab, and they were all
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  Speaker 2: coming out about the same time. I was terrified then
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  Speaker 2: and again the next memory, I was standing at the
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  Speaker 2: end of way broken down, run down pier, all the
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  Speaker 2: way at the end, laying at the pier looking into
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  Speaker 2: the water, and my parents and my uncle running trying
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  Speaker 2: to get to me because a peer was really dangerous
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  Speaker 2: because it was like missing boards and they had no
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  Speaker 2: idea how I got there, and I have no idea
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  Speaker 2: how I got there either. So you know, I think,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's a couple of Missing Time episodes, wow,
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  Speaker 2: And I have no idea what I was dealing with,
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  Speaker 2: you know. After that, for some reason, when I moved
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  Speaker 2: to the United States in sixty six or sixty seven,
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  Speaker 2: I when I used to go to the library at school,
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  Speaker 2: the only books that I will check out with the
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  Speaker 2: UFO books and the Devil's Triangle and the frank Edwoods books,
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  Speaker 2: all the old books, you know, UFOs. This is one
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  Speaker 2: of my favorites. It's called The Humanoid by Charles Bowen,
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  Speaker 2: and this is what I eventually became interested in the
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  Speaker 2: humanoids or what people call the occupants of the UFOs
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  Speaker 2: euphonos creatures now that you know. Now we got tall whites,
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  Speaker 2: Reptilian grays, you name it, but they're all types. I
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  Speaker 2: have a database of maybe over thirty thousand cases that
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  Speaker 2: include all kinds of you know, type of creatures or humanoids.
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  Speaker 2: I collect them, all the ones here in South Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I have investigated a few, but most of them I
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  Speaker 2: get from worldwide sources that I have connections with, we
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  Speaker 2: changed information with other researchers or groups, and many of
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  Speaker 2: them I get from books, which I have a whole
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  Speaker 2: collection of books, and in several languages Italian, French, Portuguese, Spanish.
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  Speaker 2: I translate them. I even translate Russia because I get
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  Speaker 2: in for a lot of cases from Russia too, in
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  Speaker 2: Ukraine and you name it. I even got a couple
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  Speaker 2: of books in German, which is harder to translate, but
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  Speaker 2: I have been able to translate some of the cases.
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  Speaker 1: And I've actually spoken with German people and I go,
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  Speaker 1: have you ever been strange? And nobody I lived there
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  Speaker 1: twenty years and I have One guy said he had
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  Speaker 1: a fight with like a ghost or a demon in
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  Speaker 1: his kitchen one time, but that's it.
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  Speaker 2: They don't know believe it or not. I guess it's
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  Speaker 2: because maybe they're very reserved and very serious people, but
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  Speaker 2: they there have been lot of cases there, these two
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  Speaker 2: books that I have, two or three books by one
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  Speaker 2: of us, Johannes Feedback. He wrote hundreds of cases, very
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  Speaker 2: interesting cases. I guess that they were able to to
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  Speaker 2: get these people to talk in But in Germany, unlike
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  Speaker 2: some of the other countries in Europe like Poland, Spain, France, UK,
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  Speaker 2: there's more openness to this UFOs and stuff. They are
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  Speaker 2: more more cases known. Right in Germany, there are many
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  Speaker 2: known cases that that I know, but you don't hear
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  Speaker 2: too much about it, maybe because of a language barrier, barrier,
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  Speaker 2: or like I said, the people are more reserved. They
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  Speaker 2: don't like to talk about it like it's certain, like
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  Speaker 2: certain and then tries here in the US, right, they
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  Speaker 2: experienced a lot of weird phenomenon. But if you're an outsider,
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  Speaker 2: you go there, try to ask him about it like.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's cultural. When it comes to the Germans, I've
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  Speaker 1: lived there for two decades, they're twenty years and I've
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  Speaker 1: I have there's a podcast or I speak with who's
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  Speaker 1: from there, who you know, is a very nice man
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  Speaker 1: and he's just like it's hard. It's hard for him
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  Speaker 1: to get to open up and talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: I see, I'm looking for a book that I that's
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  Speaker 2: one of the German books that I have to show
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  Speaker 2: it to you. Here where we go.
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  Speaker 1: Johanna's Johanna's Frybag coom talk the I can't read it.
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  Speaker 3: Beautiful Ostrich and Helng is like to the Einherling is
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  Speaker 3: like open up to picking up the mail.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's about cases in uh, Germany and Switzerland. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very interesting, but it's hard to translate, like it's really
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  Speaker 2: it text me a long time to do it. I
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  Speaker 2: have to do it manually Google, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well you to send it to me.
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  Speaker 2: Give me some work, man, I'm telling you. But you
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  Speaker 2: know I I I have written some books. I sixteen books.
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  Speaker 2: They're a Humanoid Encounter Chronology okay, starting back in BC
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  Speaker 2: up to twenty fifteen. And there's another book UFOs and
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  Speaker 2: Humanoids over Florida also, But the Humanoid Chronology are fifteen
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  Speaker 2: books and they're you know, available in Amazon, and they're
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  Speaker 2: a kindle and paperback. But yeah, links down below. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't been able to write any more books because I
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  Speaker 2: had trouble with the publisher. It was changed and now
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  Speaker 2: even though I have enough material or information to write
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  Speaker 2: at least twenty more books, you know, update update of
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  Speaker 2: the books. But I do share my my database and
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  Speaker 2: my Facebook page which is called human UFOs, humanoid and
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  Speaker 2: another strange phenomena. Okay, everybody's you know, you're welcome to
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  Speaker 2: visit a page. I think you remember, yeah, ims, yes, definitely,
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  Speaker 2: am you are, yes, And I share a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the cases there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's it's fascinating. I mean just all
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  Speaker 1: the I mean speaking of like humanoids. I mean I
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  Speaker 1: had on a gentleman yesterday, mister Ward who helps out
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  Speaker 1: with the Mothman Museum, and uh in point pleasant and
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  Speaker 1: that is that is I mean there's UFOs involved in
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  Speaker 1: that as well, men in black and all the things
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  Speaker 1: that go along with that. I mean, what can you
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  Speaker 1: say to the moth Man, what do you know about that?
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  Speaker 2: Well? It was that's that's the beginning of one of
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  Speaker 2: the beginnings of the winged humanoid phenomenon. The biggest one
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  Speaker 2: of the more, the most important, I mean, the most
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  Speaker 2: famous and the most important one. I think because it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't only winged humanoids. There were different other
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  Speaker 2: type of phenomena like you mentioned, men in black, UFOs, abductions,
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  Speaker 2: mutilations of animals, all.
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  Speaker 1: The time, loss time, loss, all.
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  Speaker 2: Kind What can I say? I think it is one
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  Speaker 2: of the best documented incidents of weird phenomenon like that
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  Speaker 2: winged humanoids creatures. I think John Keeldita did an excellent
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  Speaker 2: write up on his book, The Muffmann Prophecies. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 2: gotta get into it.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, I gonna go I'm gonna go ahead and get
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  Speaker 1: it because I had the Gentleman yesterdays. You haven't read
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  Speaker 1: it in them. No, I'm I'm kind of news for
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  Speaker 1: all this. I'm still you know. I mean, I've always
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  Speaker 1: had interest in it because of what happened to me
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  Speaker 1: in the past. I've also seen the hat Man, you
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  Speaker 1: know that that shadow with the hat Oh, I've seen
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  Speaker 1: that in Germany actually, oddly enough, and I've had some
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  Speaker 1: weird encounters out here in the Yucatan uh in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the jungle here where I bought some acreage,
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  Speaker 1: and I've heard some voices, seen some lights. It's one
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  Speaker 1: of his places too.
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  Speaker 2: There's a there's a lot of incidents in the Yukat town,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of cases that I know related to the
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  Speaker 2: what what do they call the little men? They're they're
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  Speaker 2: living alucious. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The famous case either two thousand and four, two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and six right here off the coast of Perpetuate, that
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  Speaker 1: the Mexican Air Force actually was running into a series
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  Speaker 1: of lights and you can actually go on YouTube and
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  Speaker 1: look it up and you can hear video, Yes, you
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  Speaker 1: can hear the the the Mexican Air Force actually talking
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  Speaker 1: back to the base going we don't know what this is?
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  Speaker 1: What is this up there? It was, It's quite fascinating.
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  Speaker 1: And recently there was something that came out of the
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  Speaker 1: ocean here, like I think a year ago right out here,
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  Speaker 1: right out in front of the city that I missed.
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  Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, it's it's uh, it's a really weird place.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it. I mean, what do
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  Speaker 1: you what if it? Because okay, I think a lot
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  Speaker 1: of it. I don't know what your feelings are on it.
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  Speaker 1: This is what I'm starting to space is somehow electromagnetic
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  Speaker 1: and I don't know how that all plays in because
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but I've always hear about people, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with their you know, whether they're taking a picture of
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  Speaker 1: a crypto or they're trying to go to a location
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  Speaker 1: that's uf hotspot. They're always taking out their EMF feeders
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  Speaker 1: and they're reading these high electric static signals or electricmagnetics
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  Speaker 1: signals excuse me, and they're reading them. They always talk about,
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  Speaker 1: you know, limestone and quartz and things like that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: what can he say to that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It could be the type of energy
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  Speaker 2: that it exudes and they used to uh they maybe
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  Speaker 2: maybe they extract that energy to do what they do.
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  Speaker 2: They I think they travel through portals and then come
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  Speaker 2: in and out of portals. That's my opinion. Uh, maybe
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  Speaker 2: what they call windows and different types of the planet
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  Speaker 2: and different areas of the planet. And they've been seen
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  Speaker 2: like in the the place called the Skinwalker Ranch where
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  Speaker 2: they saw a humanoid come out of a hole in
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  Speaker 2: the sky and jumping jumping to the ground a big
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  Speaker 2: dark shape just a hole in the air, then and
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  Speaker 2: then went back in. It's like going from let's say,
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  Speaker 2: using a black hole to travel from here to Alpha
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  Speaker 2: C and tower like a movie like I remember the
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  Speaker 2: name of the movie now, but yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that, and you've also
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  Speaker 1: seen a two mister. You've also seen a lot of
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  Speaker 1: like the ones that go into the water and then
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  Speaker 1: come out of the water. There's a big part of
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  Speaker 1: me that really believes that they're actually here already. It's
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  Speaker 1: just that we don't know or have the ability to
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  Speaker 1: even see them because they're so far down and it's
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  Speaker 1: so vast the space they could be in.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm alone here in the house and anyway, I.
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  Speaker 1: Heard something, okay, you know they I used to.
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  Speaker 2: Have two dogs, whether sadly gone now, but anyway. There
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  Speaker 2: are many areas in the planet, like the coast of
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  Speaker 2: the Canary Islands, Balllyaric Islands in the Mediterranean, Palma, you know, Mayorica,
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  Speaker 2: the Crimea in the Ukraine or Russia, where there have
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  Speaker 2: been hundreds of reports under water activity there and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people speculate there that they're actually under underwater
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  Speaker 2: basis in those locations and they're actually fishermen and other
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  Speaker 2: witnesses that have claiming to have seen many objects coming
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  Speaker 2: out of the water. Yes, and not only ip just
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  Speaker 2: but strange humanoids either swimming in the water or walking
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  Speaker 2: out of the water.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's even military footage of them, like
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  Speaker 1: actually going across the top of the water and just
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: going right in and coming right back out at insane
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: rates of speed. And it's just it's just fascinating. I
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: think that you and I and everybody else who's interested
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: and interested in this phenomenon, we are living in a
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: very interesting time right now. I think it's very interesting.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Look. I remember back in the seventies when I was
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: a teenager, I was going to school and I will
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: carry with me all the UFO books. And I was
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: ridicule back then. And you don't see that anymore as much,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think, maybe very very little, but I was.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I was called the Martian in high school.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Was god because it could be so mean?
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Yes, the Martian because I carry all the.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: It wasn't because you like your skin tone. You weren't greener.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: No, I didn't have any antenna.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, my favorite Martian.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they called me, because really, oh everybody,
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: everybody knew that I was the guy that that was
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: into into aliens or extressiels or whatever. And then and
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: then when when one of them wanted to know something,
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: they come to me, Hey, Albert, what do you think
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: about You're asking me a freaking question after you call
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: me a Martian.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you still have to show them love.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And I think what.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: You're trying to get through this Now nowadays it's kind
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: of accepted more. I mean especially you know with people
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: they only look at what the official news is and
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, they're actually saying they're real. And people
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: like yourself and many, many, many others are like, yeah,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: we've been talking about this since maybe even before nineteen
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: forty seven. Even if you go back into you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: some of the hieroglyphs or even even the pyramids here
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: that I visited and walked up in the middle of jungle,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: they're not even on a on a map that you
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: can find. There's some weirdness to it.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I was there and the parents there, and I was
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: there when I got married back a long time ago.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But I remember being there with incredible experience.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Island Island. There's there's a pyramid on the island.
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: I could I might have gone to the pyramid in
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: is there one.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: There's one. There's one. You're talking about Tuloom.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: You're probably well, I know, I know they they drove
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: us to a pyramid area by the by the water.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I remember the name, right U l u M fantastic, beautiful.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, And I was there with MYX wife. I had
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: a good time. But you know, Mexico is full of
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: full of weird stories. I mean there's a lot of
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: like magic, black magic rituals. Oh yeah, skinned walkers, not
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: one right, little little man, all kinds of stuff. UFOs,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: of course, I think, yeah, But I don't know what
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: what your opinion is, but I think it was them
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: what has damaged the Mexican you UFO community a little
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: bit a lot. I think it's Hymen mau Son because
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I don't think nobody takes them seriously anymore. I don't
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: know about you.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Who is it? Who is that again? Is he? Is
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: he a famous you apologies of Mexico?
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Hymen mau Son, check him out.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: I've heard of him. I've heard of him.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: He's a guy with the mummies and he brought the
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: mummies and all that.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Which I don't know. I just you know, speaking with
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: my my girlfriend and she's like, oh, this is one
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: of the guys that do and I just haven't you
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's a language barrier still and
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I just don't know much about it. But there's another
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: guy here. He's a he's a was the Austrian or German.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: He is in uh.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Agos, Carriientish north of the north of central Mexico there
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and he is on a very specific mountain where he's
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: unearthing like these strange alien artifacts back episode two or three,
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and uh, this whole I mean, even if you go
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: into the psychedelic part of it, if you go into
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: the mushrooms of the high deserts of like you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Chihuahua and all those areas, or the Zone of Silence
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: that's another one. Yeah, it's it's a fantastic place if
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: you're that kind of person. It seems to fit to
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: me as well. And the people and the culture and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: all that. So yeah, I'm happy.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Did you ever see the movie Alter States? We know,
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: John Hurt. You got to see. It has to do
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: with some kind of well you got to see it
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: as Alter States, that's the word the upper the war
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: right there. It's very good. There's a small section when
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: the guys in Mexico visiting the local Indians and he's
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: given some substance to drink and it's a god of
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: psychedelic or something. But it's pretty cool. That movie is good.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, probably probably peyote or ayahuasca, something like that. My
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: girlfriend was telling me that the Mayans didn't spoke tobacco.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: They would smoke peyote rolled in cocoa leaves and cocoa leaves,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: coconut leaves.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: Coconut, Yeah, cocoa.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: That's another thing. That's a whole other thing. And uh yeah, please.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Throughout the years, I mean throughout the millennia, that the
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: ancient cultures that have done psychedelics, that's one other way
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: to communicate with what they call the gods. Yes, Greeks
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: they did too, that many of the ancient cultures. Now
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: it's a many kind of thing, you know, but uh,
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: It's starting to open up a little bit, especially with.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Something just like the ufo.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: That's true, Yeah, y ahuasca for sure, because people under
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: under the you know, under ayahuasca, the mother Ayahuasca as
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: I call her, they see UFOs made of feathers.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: They see all kinds of stuff, all.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Kinds of stuff. It's it's fascinating. And that's the thing
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: about the world. It's weird to me. I know, you
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: were like me uh in a little more in depth
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: about it. I also really enjoy talking about cryptids and
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the paranormal, amongst other things. But we're we're a fascinating time,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: and I just I really enjoy these things. And I
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: don't understand how people can just have a regular nine
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to five job and just you know, you know, I'll
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: go get some tires tomorrow and a cake for Sally's birthday.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I think it's changing, but a lot of people, You're right,
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: their main I mean, the world view is getting up
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: in the morning, going to McDonald looking at their cell phone, working,
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: going back home watching it. I mean, you kind of
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: look up at the sky, at the stars once in
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: a while and see what's around you. That's why a
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of people don't don't look
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: around them, don't don't see what's going on actually around them.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: I imagine being where you are in Miami, you can
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: probably take trips to places in the Everglades where the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: sky is still really really dark.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: You could go although I west and you could see
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: stuff all the whole beautiful, beautiful people.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: People need to understand that. They'll say it was an
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: old Joe Rogan joke where people will go. Yeah, man,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I went out to the I went out to the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Grand Canyon and I looked and it was just amazing.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: He's like, you think that's amazing. Look up, there's no rootfulness, bro,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: And it goes on farther than you can imagine.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: You know, too bad. Where I live, there's a lot
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: of light pollution. But I like looking at the stars
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: a lot.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: I enjoy it too. Actually, when I bought a telescope
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: about five six years ago, I spent I moved from
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Germany to here. I would actually look on the light
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: pollution map and find the best place to go, and
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I would go out there. And the first night is
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: when I first saw my first like uae or whatever
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: you call a UFO was a little I put my
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: telescope up in this field in the middle of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: forest that I knew about from former army days, and
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I was shining. I was having my telescope up and
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I was looking to uh see which way it was
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: moving the earth so I can point my telescope to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: see the planets as they come up. And over top
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: of the tree line about two hundred yards away, I
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: saw this like orangish like ball and it just popped
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: into popped into like existence my field of view, and
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: without looking at the telescope, I can see it. And
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I pointed out to my ex wife, I said, you
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: see that, And when I when I said that, it's
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: already moving a little bit, and it just kind of dissipated.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: I've seen I've seen a couple of things too, a
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I seen some some stuff too. I remember one
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: time there's broaden daylight. Me and my dad. I was
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: I was maybe eighteen or young the Navy when I
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: was nineteen. I was four years in the Navy.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Oh, four years in the army. Man, let's go radio man.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I was a radio man.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: You were you were in you were in telecommunications? Yes,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: so was I?
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, yeah, I was doing the first satellite communications.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: You know they I remember what they called it, crypto,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: the crypto and all that.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: When you have to when you have to encrypt, encrypt
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: every night at twelve o'clock and now you remember you
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: had to change the numbers.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Whatever that was. It's a little different, but I got
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: it was a little different when I got in there.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, okay, back then it was it was starting
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: you know, yeah, you know, and after that, I.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: I guess what. I after a brief stint with my dad.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately he got sick and passed, but I joined the
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: local Miami Day Police department as a as a communications again,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that's all a man. I spent thirty five years in
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: the communications.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: Because you're bilingual. That was helpful.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that helped. That helped, Yeah, that helped a lot.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes it was Sometimes that's because there's so many people
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: here in South South Florida that speak Spanish and some
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: allot of them don't bother turtles around speak English. They'll
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: keep you busy the whole night. When everybody was sitting
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: around at four o'clock in the morning sleeping, I'm not sleeping,
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: but just waiting for a call. Yah, I'm sitting there
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: arguing with a guy because oh my god, yeah my
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: name this guy. This guy called it three thirty in
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: the morning, and I go, what in Spanish? What's the problems?
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: We got to say? Three thirty in the morning.
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: My neighbors are having a Sandinista party, and I go,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: what do you mean a standista? It was Santaria and
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: he called it Sandinista were Sandnisa were of the the
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: guys in NICARAUA, sir, you got your own confuses santeria,
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: So enjoy the music.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: That's fantastic, fantastic Monday. Okay, wait, it's an ultra bike.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I tell you, yeah, But you know I was.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I was gonna tell you I was broad they like
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: with my dad. We were coming out Republics here in
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Miami and we looked up and there was a what
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: I could describe it. They were like either disc shape
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: or oval shaped objects flying. I don't know how high.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: They were pretty high up in like an echelon formation,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: one on the front and one the other a little
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: bit in the back on east side. I don't look
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: flying stars. I pointed out a bunch of people there,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: you know, we're looking at it and I don't know
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: where this This guy come out like it looked like
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: an old man medes. No, that's a that's the US
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Air Force testing new weapons. What do you mean how
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: do you know that? Yeah? I forget about it. And
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: this guy was just trying to them for some reason.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: He didn't want us to believe that we have just
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: seen UFOs. I have no idea who that guy was,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: but that's yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Just imagine that you imagine that everybody that I'm speaking
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: to the audience, just imagine that they actually would go
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: so far as to put people out that on a
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: beachfront or wherever you were. I'm sure you in an
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: area where other people are somewhat at least to have
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: like this information campaign actually paid for it so that
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you don't talk about it in a weird way.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: I think there's still a lot of disinformation coming on nowadays.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: You know, there's all this closure thing. Okay, okay, good,
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: let's finally come out with the truth. But I mean,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: what are they going to tell me that I don't
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: know already? I know we have UFOs that have been
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: crashed UFOs. We probably used technology obtained from UFOs, right,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I mean there we probably or do not only the US,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: but Russia and other countries have dead humanoids or whatever
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: you want to call them in store somewhere. I frankly
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: do believe.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: That speaking of misinformation, do you hold any weight about this,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: this object that is coming in November? Are you holding
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: any weight on that? Or is that just a bunch
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: of fluff man.
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: Everybody's been asking about that, everybody, even my son's because
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: they think, you know, I should know about that, but
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I had no idea what I'm I look at it
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and I mean what I seen on Facebook or Instagram. Yeah,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and it looks to me like it's bs. Come on, Well,
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: that's fine. Every year they're saying that something's gonna come
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: and get us, and the other day the other day
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: that we're supposed to be that everybody was what do
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: you call that? Uh, the rapture? Oh?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Is that the other day?
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: It was the other day.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Every I think we missed it.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: I'm still here.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's somewhere, didn't we. Yeah, But like that,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: that happens to a lot of people that'll say things
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like you know this, that and the other, and then
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: it never comes true. But then there are times if
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: people say things and no one pays attention to them,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: and you know, things happen, you know, you know it's. Uh,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: we live in a really weird time now, we do,
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: we do? Yeah. So one that I became aware of
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: when I was younger was the lights in Clearwater, Florida.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: What can you tell me about that?
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Clear water?
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's clear water. Maybe maybe I'm mistaken, Maybe
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: I think it was clear water. Oh man, Well there
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: was a.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: You're talking about an incident that have to do with
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: the US.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Coast Guard, it might have, yes, I think so.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: I think that happened in seventy eight, and there were
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: several incidents in which Coast Guard station I think near Tampa,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: which is I think the area of Clearwater, they capture
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: some radar, some options on radar, and there were actual
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: visual confirmation of the objects. It was a really big,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: big deal back then in nineteen seventy eight. I wasn't
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: here in Florida, but I was in the in the
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: navy somewhere in Europe. Probably passed out in a bar somewhere.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But no, ok, your navy guys can always drink a
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: lot more.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, that does happened.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I think you're just used to being on the boat
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: and when you drink, you have the same effect. You
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: feel like you're just working.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: So I know anyway by that that's that's the case.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: You're talking about clear Water, And they were not just
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: light they were like unidentified options that we're seeing. Yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: And also in the Ocala north of clear Water, there
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: was a lot of weird stuff going out there. Huge
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: they said, they were huge ships over the over the
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Ocala national wars that were seen by by several people,
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: by police and different witnesses.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: There was a lot of them. There was the Phoenix Lights,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: which is that's another thing. Yeah, that's a famous one.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Then is the one that maybe you can tell me
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a little bit about because I love to be always
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: loved to be informed. Uh. There's a song from one
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: of my favorite bands called h called Opeth and the
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: song is called Rendall shim Forest. Isn't Also what what
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: where is Randal Slant? And and could you tell me
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: a little bit about that incident because I would love
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: to know.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: It's in the u K. H Uh? What's hold? One second?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: I have a couple of books. This is one of them,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Encounter at Rendall sam Forest.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Okay, this is your book.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't write it, I bought it. But there
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: there's a location is in Uh?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: I got that all messed up?
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Is that? Well? It's still less US Air base there
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: and there's a twin base which is a UK base.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: And back then in December nineteen eighty they stored nuclear
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: weapons there and that's one of the biggest places they
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: had nuclear weapons in Europe nineteen eighty. The Cold War
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: will almost went at it, and a bunch of stuff
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: happened there. Not only one day, there were several nights
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: in a row when there were objects that were seen
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: over the nuclear storage facility. And one night they they
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: one of the objects shown a beanal light and to
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: the where they kept everything, and and everybody was watching.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Everybody was praying, hoping that they were not going to
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: blow up. That's what they thought it was going to happen,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: that they were gonna they were gonna blow up. The
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: option just stood there and then it flew away, and
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: then it flew right by the control tower there, and
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: they said it was huge. And then there were the
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: other encounters by the in the forest, by the soldiers
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: and the guards, the MP, the military police force, there
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: were air force, military police, and it was it's a
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: fascinating story. There's a bunch of books out there. I'm
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: trying to read another one right now, but it's a
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: very interesting story. They actually some people say they saw
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: aliens other people and he said no. But there was
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: one guy that got close up to us. What he
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: described was it looked like a small pyramid pyramidal shape.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Craft Black touched it. He touched it and Pennington his
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: name was. His name is Sartain Pennington. I think he
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: wrote a book about it too. And when he touched
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: it some he saw some signals pop up, you know,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: with light lighted signals, symbols, and he wrote it down
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: in his notebook, and he wrote a book about the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: whole thing about what he saw. But it's a lot
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: of it's an interesting case. Have you one of them?
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, sure, Okay, I thought we were. I'm working
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: on it, man, I'm trying to figure it out. Everyone
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: has their own timing, and I.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Have to no, that's fine.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I had a gentleman come on and he was in
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a wildlife protection area in Mississippi. Have you ever heard
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: of any incidences of black cubes, like eight by eight
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: foot black cubes, either in the sky or you know,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: other than the one in Mecca or whatever. But have
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: you ever heard of anything like this? Because he's looking
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: for answers I have.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: I know a lot about a lot of incidents in
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: which people report seeing flying cubes, which is an impossibility
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: unless some kind of balloon. But it's not. It wasn't.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: There were some people I have seen the black either
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: rectangle or a cube that that flying like a high
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: altitude sometimes a low altitude, just like an aircraft. No,
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: no signs for propulsion and nothing. And apparently the cube
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: is like like the borg ship, Like, yeah, the borg
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: ship the.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: It's crazy. I mean, is that you look at Is
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: that a flying sauce? Well technically yes, it's a UFO,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: but a square one, which you know, who would have
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: thought something square like that could fly? But this been
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: there's been a report. Actually, there's been some reports of
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: those Quba Bob just landing and aliens coming out of it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: I might have a couple of those in my in
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: my database.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, he was, uh he was, Uh, I
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: can't remember he was. He's a big foot of and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: he was in mouff On and now he's in the
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: North American dog Man Project. I can't think of Marcus.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Marcus Ellis is his name. And he said that it
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: rained the day before. Is one road in to this
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: wildlife protection area, so when you know when you drive
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: on the gravel road after its rain, that you can
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: see your track marks. So he drives in. He kind
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: of there's like a little turn off from the main
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: road and he maybe I don't know, maybe island fifty
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: feet in and you know, he was getting this equipment together.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: He walks out onto the road and where he just
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: drove from. He sees in the middle of the road
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: and he said it was about eight by eight ten
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: by ten foot flat black cube on the ground on
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: the ground. Yeah, he didn't know what to do. He
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: got wearied, weary. He came, he went back to his truck,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: put his stuff away, back the truck out and when
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: he did that, it was gone. He didn't hear it leave.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: There was no tracks other than his because we went back.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: He always seen one set of tracks. Nothing. And he's
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: just just like, I don't know what this is. If
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you've run across anybody, let me know.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: So you know what, everybody, it could have been some
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: kind of inter dimensional craft or something. Absolutely disappear and
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: then left right and yeah, sorry, Like all these missing
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: people that you hear about the four one one missing,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: the Red Police. They the people that disappear, mostly the
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: forested areas for as they and you think what could
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: have happen, because sometimes they're never never found. Maybe they
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: go through that portal and they weren't able to return right.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they're they're able to return, but to another time.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: And then later maybe we find their bodies at a
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: spot where they already searched and they went by twenty times.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Knows that the body's there. Where did that body come from?
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: Where have they been? Just like the author of the books,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: you know, ask where have they been?
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now let's get to your books here for a second. Man,
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: tell me tell me something about you know, like, tell
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: me one of the you know, you said you have
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: this large database and you kind of like put them
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: in your books. I think that's what you're telling me.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Tell me tell me like a UFO incident that is,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you know, shocking to you that should be famous or
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: better well known, that that we can maybe find in
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: one of your books.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: Well, there's so many, you know, so many cases. And
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: I couldn't include all the cases in my books, no way,
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: It's less less than half of what I have. But anyway,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: there there are so many, you know they one of
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: the one of my favorite cases is the Travis Walton abduction,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: I think seventy five, the Pasca Goula abduction in Mississippi
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: seventy three. You heard about that one.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I know, I know a few of them, but I
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: don't know many of I know bed and Betty and
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Barney whatever.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Betty and Barney in sixty one.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know I know a few, but I
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: don't know them well. You know. I I know of them,
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: and I know, you know a lot of the strangers
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: that happens around them, but it just hasn't been in
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: my purview, which is why I get them. You know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: people like yourself too, and like.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: Me I I you know, I collect cases from all
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: over the world, and a lot of these cases in
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: their own done by themselves. They are incredible cases, and
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: they maybe maybe they should be you know, famous or
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: must or well known, but there is a a it's
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: language barrier sometimes when you bring cases from Russia, Eastern
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: Europe and all those places, and not many people here
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: in the West that know about those cases. But there's
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: been a lot of weird cases over there. One case,
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: there's one case, actually two cases that they're almost basically
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: the same, but the data occur like totally different locations.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: One of them occurred in Ukraine and the other one
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: here in South Miami, Florida, And the South Miami case
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: was investigative about local researcher here. He's no longer with us,
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: but he wrote an article on it, and basically this
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: isn't on US one. The road close to uh in
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: the South Miami area which is now there used to
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: be a tomato field there, but now it's, you know, apartments.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: The guy was driving it was late evening back then
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: there were not that much traffic on the road, and
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: he sees an object like a he described it like
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: a big oval craft, gray metallic, descending over a field
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: off to the side of the road. He stopped the
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: car and he looks, he says, a big like a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: big door opened, a huge door. There was a ramp
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: thrown to the ground. And guess what comes out? He said,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: three or four black vehicles. He couldn't tell what make
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: it when he said, you think there were chevies or
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: something like that. And they came out. There were some
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: people in the vehicle that to him, they looked like human,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: normal men. They drove away on US One. They went northbound,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: he was going southbound. The occidants lifted up and took golf.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I mean he reported to the authorities. Obviously he wasn't
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: taken seriously, but he contacted the researcher, which he did
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: an investigation on it. Now the Ukrainian case jump forty
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: years or more, nineteen ninety one outside outside Kiev, Kiev,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: and again two witnesses they see an object landing on
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: a field and the other just metallic, huge, A big
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: compartment opens up and vehicles at coming out, a couple
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: of trucks and dark vehicles, and they're sitting there is
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: looking at what the hell are we looking at? And
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: they just drive away and almost these are almost exact
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: same details. And you think, I mean, these people in
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: Ukraine could not have known anything about this case in
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: South Miami from sixty one, right, because it was only
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: published in a small newsletter that nobody knows about. Right,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: And it's just crazy.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Another researcher from Spain told me about also a similar
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: incident from Mexico. He didn't tell me we're in Mexico,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: but it was the same thing. This UFO hover close
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to the ground, an elevator type thing to send it,
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: and a couple of bugles came out to go.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I had on a couple of years back a
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: woman called Mary Rodwell. Uh, she's pretty big into it too,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: and she was talking about there's a couple of different
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: types of uh, you know, abduction scenarios where you know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: type if you're if you can, there's two different types.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Mainly there's the real extraterrestrials and then there's the military ones,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: where like in the military ones are scary, you can
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: remember parts of them, a lot of you know, black helicopters.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: That's also seems a very common theme around these things,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: and that for some reason, those for whatever reason are
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: scarier than the ones that are from you know, whether
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: it be the Nordics or the Grays or whatever. And
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: it's just it's just fascinating because that's the connection that
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: you made in my mind with those three.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of those, well they call my
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: labs military abductions written. It's been a lot written about
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: those because people have reported abduscians in which they are
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: they are they see human military men or doctors or whatever,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: accompanied by aliens either tall, white or Grays or whatever
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: type of alien. It's like they're working together, right, which
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I believe in many instances they are.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Well, Okay, I would I would ask you one last question.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's very fitting to where you live in
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the world. What in the heck happened at the Miami mall,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: can you what can you tell me about that?
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: At the baside, Mall, I know you're going to ask me.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: You know I had a guy.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: How did you know that?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: I know you're going to ask me that, but uh,
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: it was that day. I was sick at home, really
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: bad flu At that night I couldn't enjoy anything anyway.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: The next day, a couple of days afterwards, I got
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: an email from a guy in Germany. What's his name,
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: I can't remember his name, but he has a website
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: in Germany. I'll send you the website. But he said,
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: what happened in Miami, Albert you know in the website?
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: What do you mean? Then he sent me a link.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: What the hell? And they're like hundreds of police cars
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: and according to the report, it says that there was
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: some deniles fire ing off fireworks, like one hundred police
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: cars for that, I mean, that doesn't make any sense.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Then they started some information started coming out that they
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: they seem weird stuff in some of the near some
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: of the stores inside, and that freaked people and there
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: was people started running and screaming, and it was an
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: next time like a stampede. Okay, And and I know
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: a guy a local guy that went out there like
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: a week later or so and talked to some of
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: the people that worked at the mall. He sent me
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: a report which I have him. I wrote down some
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: information and I could send it to you. You could
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: read it. He said that he spoke to people there
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: and according to him, that night, most of the cell
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: phones were not working. There was something interference, and some
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: people reported seeing black helicopters in the area also, and
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: they were attributed to the fireworks display with you, I
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: don't think so marked And then a lot of people
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: were told not to speak about what happened. A lot
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: of people didn't want to talk about it. People are
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: security that worked there. The police forget about it. They
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: didn't even want to mention the report. According to information,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: there were some creatures seen in some of the hallways
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: of the mall and then the parking lot, and these
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: creatures like again like I was mentioning earlier, so pulstly
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: it came out of portals, out of nowhere, in the
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: middle of the festivities. Freaked everybody out right. Well after that,
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: police want to talk about it, But if if it
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: was only kids playing around, like like the police white
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: send one hundred police vehicles in there.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: How many how many police cars can the Miami Dade
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: County Police possibly have, That's what I want to know.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: I think that there were the Miami and the Miami
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Day Police complaining, even possibly Miami Beach, which is across
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: the inner coastal, but they were they were from from
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: everywhere there, patrol and everything.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I think eventually it's going to come out. It's going
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: to have to, because it's they're trying to Things happen
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: so fast now that you just get a race from
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: your mind, whatever it may be, it's just the next thing.
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: But this one, for some reason is sticking around because
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: of the oddity of it.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: I'm going to send you a little write up about
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: it mm hmm to your email right now. And it
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: was to get it but a friend of mine, but
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: he went there and he spoke to people. Wow, So
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: let me just send it to you right now.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, that was interesting, my labs, am I l
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: A B S.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why they call the military abductions.
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: Am I L A. I'm gonna look that up.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's many of them are connected to UFOs.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: And yes, yeah, so so thank you so much for
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: coming on tonight, mister, mister, mister, I wanted to say Rayoso,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: but that's a friend of mine.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: No, he's a he's a researcher, isn't.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: He is a friend of mine?
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Who Now, okay, because I know researcher.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, there's names here are very I mean the
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: names and you know, the Latin Americans speaking part of
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: the world are very similar most of the time. Uh,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you know, except for here there's a lot of cow witch,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: win chuched and a lot of like Mayan names.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: But yeah, of course, oh yeah, yeah yeah.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And then you know it's like Gonzales, Lopez, you know,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: all these typical names. So yeah, it could possibly be somebody.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: But I want to I want to thank you personally
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: for coming on and talking with me. It's been a pleasure.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: And please tell everybody one more time where they could
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: find you and where they can find your books.
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: You can think of all my books whom I know
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: it Encounters Chronology series and uh Amazon, paperback or Kindle,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and you could visit my group and Facebook called UFHO.
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: Humanoid UFO is another strange phenomena there there's a lot
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: of information that's sprewed out every night and cases that
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: we discussed, and it's very interesting, fantastic you visited the patient.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: That's where I found you. That's where I found you.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, who's this gentleman. Oh he's an author.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: Oh he oh he has experiences. I'd love to talk
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to him. And that's how it works out, guys, that's
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: how I get a lot of people on the show.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it's through word of mouth and other contacts,
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: but sometimes you just got to reach out. And thank
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: you for letting me reach out. And thanks for coming
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: on again.
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: Man, you're welcome it when you have one, is ready,
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: send me a link so I could post.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: This will come out the first week of November.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: Okay, the first me and I'll post it in the group.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: I will most most most definitely do that. And thank
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: you so much, mister Renoso for coming on.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: You call me right now.
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: Your name your name is Robert Reinoso.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, you know embarrassing, No, that's fine, the pleasures online.
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: We'll do it again, okay.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Certainly were Thank you very much, and remember, guys, we
• 52:45
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• 52:47
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