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138. Murder Mystery on the High Seas · Who Did What Now With Katie Charlwood

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  Speaker 1: Hello, delicious friends, and welcome to Hooded What Now the
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  Speaker 1: history podcast That's not your history class with me, your
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  Speaker 1: host Katie Charlwood, History Harlotte and read it all books.
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  Speaker 1: So I have to start this episode just reassuring everybody
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  Speaker 1: who has been reaching out to me because they were
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  Speaker 1: genuinely concerned that something was wrong and something had happened
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  Speaker 1: because I have not been consistently posting online. So because
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  Speaker 1: I haven't been posting like videos and stories and just
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  Speaker 1: like stuff on threads like every single day and several
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  Speaker 1: times a day, and this raised some alarm bells for people,
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  Speaker 1: like which is something because I wasn't aware of how
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  Speaker 1: chronically online I am. But there you go. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've just been working on the book and so I've
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  Speaker 1: been putting more focus into that and just double checking
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  Speaker 1: everything for the tour, making sure that everything is ready
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  Speaker 1: for each show, because as you know, every show is different.
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  Speaker 1: I never do the same story twice in a live show.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not something I do because, like I think,
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  Speaker 1: if you're coming to see me, you get a unique experience.
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  Speaker 1: So that that's fun. Did that wonderful? Ten out of ten?
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  Speaker 1: So that being said, there are still tickets available for Boston, Albany, Syracuse, LA.
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  Speaker 1: I think there is one ticket left for Toronto as
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  Speaker 1: far as I'm aware, there's one Pittsburgh sold out. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so come see me if you want to come see me.
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  Speaker 1: But also, speaking of being online, actually I did post
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  Speaker 1: on threads yesterday and I have had the best twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours because of it. So basically, my friend posted
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  Speaker 1: like a reference to Monty Python in a video. And
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  Speaker 1: you know how you forget things for a really long
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  Speaker 1: time and then like suddenly something trickers it and you
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  Speaker 1: remember it and you're just like I did that. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's what happened to me yesterday. And I remembered that
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  Speaker 1: I used to have as a prompt on dating apps
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  Speaker 1: back when I thought dating was an option. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I get so stressed out at the concept of dating
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  Speaker 1: right now, and luckily I'm so busy that it hasn't
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  Speaker 1: come up and I don't have to worry about being
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  Speaker 1: alone anyway. I have enough pressure and anxiety to keep
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  Speaker 1: my company. But anyway, so I remembered that the prompt
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  Speaker 1: was what is the air speed velocity of an unlaid
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  Speaker 1: and swallow? Which is from Monty Python and the Holy Grail,
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  Speaker 1: which is my favorite movie of all time. It's my favorite,
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  Speaker 1: absolute favorite, and so people have just been responding with
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  Speaker 1: like African, a European swallow or just I don't know, Ah,
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  Speaker 1: it's just and she's like quotes from the movie. And
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  Speaker 1: every single time I open it up, I just hear
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  Speaker 1: the voices of like all the actors and it just
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  Speaker 1: makes me giggle that we're all just kind of having
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  Speaker 1: this big joke together and it's so much fun. I
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  Speaker 1: wonder if I could convince a bunch of friends to
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  Speaker 1: do like a traumatic reading or just like just like
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  Speaker 1: a live reading of Monty Python and the Holy Grail,
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  Speaker 1: because god, I I'd love it. I'd be so robin
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  Speaker 1: because I don't think I have enough talent to be
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  Speaker 1: any the other I say that as if Eric Idle
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  Speaker 1: isn't amazing. But oh god, so much fun. I love
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  Speaker 1: it so much. Obviously, there are some people here don't
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  Speaker 1: get the joke or just like syrapuses and whatever, but
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  Speaker 1: there are so many people just like having a laugh.
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  Speaker 2: It's so much fun. But anyway, I know what you're thinking.
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  Speaker 2: You're thinking, Kertie, quit your jabbel jabba in fact me,
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  Speaker 2: in fact you I will, But first we've got to
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  Speaker 2: get our source on.
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  Speaker 1: Our sources are Murderer Board, the Herbert for their tragedy,
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  Speaker 1: and the ordeal of Thomas bram By. See Michael Hyam
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  Speaker 1: American Merchant Seamen of the early nineteenth century. A Researcherer's
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  Speaker 1: Guide by Anne Mordel. We also have articles from the
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  Speaker 1: Boston Globe, the New York Times, and of course our
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  Speaker 1: old favorites biography dot com and History dot com. I
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  Speaker 1: use it in comfortably good. Then let's begin. On the
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  Speaker 1: twenty first of July eighteen ninety six, just six miles
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  Speaker 1: off the coast of Devil's Island in Halifax, Nova Scotia,
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  Speaker 1: in Canada, a ship was spotted flying the black flag
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  Speaker 1: of distress, and towing behind them was the ship's jolly boat,
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  Speaker 1: within which were the bodies of the captain, his wife,
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  Speaker 1: and the second mate. His lives were ended by an
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  Speaker 1: unknown person while they were out at sea. Nine souls
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  Speaker 1: remained on board, one of which was the murderer, but
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  Speaker 1: which one well, delicious, friends, it's time to hear the
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  Speaker 1: story of the Herbert Fuller. It feels like it's been
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  Speaker 1: a while since we did some historical true crime. You
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  Speaker 1: know old timey crime if you will, And I thought
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  Speaker 1: murder mystery on the high seas just seems appropriate for
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  Speaker 1: a Titanic month. You know, let's talk about maritime murder.
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  Speaker 1: And so, yes, the Harberd Fuller. Let's start at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: shall we. The Hairberd Fuller is a barcantine ship, which
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  Speaker 1: as far as I can tell, means that it had
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  Speaker 1: a loan of sails and a little crew. So it
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  Speaker 1: had three masts sixteen sails and didn't need that many
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  Speaker 1: people to sort of sail it effectively. Other than that,
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  Speaker 1: don't know much about it. Transport's not really my thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you really want to know about types of ships,
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  Speaker 1: Google is free. And so it was a library card.
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  Speaker 1: So and chips like this were really popular as merchant
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  Speaker 1: and trading vessels because very little upkeep, very small crew,
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  Speaker 1: just really really handy for like getting about. And even
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  Speaker 1: though you've like the Industrial Revolution which happened so many
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  Speaker 1: years before, like all of those steam power chips that
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  Speaker 1: were starting to come out, like they required a lot
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  Speaker 1: of work and a lot of maintenance, whereas these were
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  Speaker 1: we but hand you And when it came to merchant crews,
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  Speaker 1: well you could basically have anybody who was used to
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  Speaker 1: being at sea. So over the years, because of the
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  Speaker 1: way that trade and fishing and everything grew, you could
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  Speaker 1: literally have like a member of like a former navy
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  Speaker 1: person or a privateer. I'm fairly certain they still had
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  Speaker 1: those in the nineteenth century. You also could have had
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  Speaker 1: just like a fisherman. You know, you have all of
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  Speaker 1: these people who would have grown up like or lived
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  Speaker 1: a lot of their lives at the sea. And remember
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  Speaker 1: the main mode of transport if you're going from one
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  Speaker 1: country to another at this point, unless you're going through
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  Speaker 1: a landlocked region like you're sailing like, so this is
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  Speaker 1: your main mode of transport. It is your main route
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  Speaker 1: for trading like this is just how people got about, right,
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  Speaker 1: And so you would just have all these different people
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  Speaker 1: from all these different backgrounds and livelihoods, nationalities, etc. But
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  Speaker 1: the Herbert Fuller it was from Harrington, It was built there,
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  Speaker 1: and it's co owner and captain Charles Nash, also hailed
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  Speaker 1: from there, as did his wife, who was ten years
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  Speaker 1: his junior. Very few people ever spoke ill of Charles Nash.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he was a bit of a hard ass.
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  Speaker 1: He always carried a gun with him, a revolver, I
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  Speaker 1: believe just in case you need to like show people
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  Speaker 1: that you know, he's the captain and you have to
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  Speaker 1: listen to him. And he had an absolute, like teetotal
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  Speaker 1: policy for his crew. He's like, you do not drink
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  Speaker 1: on the job, which some people said, that's not fair.
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  Speaker 1: Why can't we have our grog And he's like, because
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  Speaker 1: I don't need drunk people steering a ship, which honestly,
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  Speaker 1: it actually just makes sense to not drink on the job.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got some people who were like saying this
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  Speaker 1: about him, about him being just like so strict and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes cruel, and then you'd have like a bunch of
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  Speaker 1: others who were just like he was so chill and
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  Speaker 1: relaxed when we were traveling, like it was fine. So
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this is like a butting of personality issues,
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  Speaker 1: but it is what it is. His wife, Laura, I
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  Speaker 1: think they'd married when he was twenty six and she
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  Speaker 1: was sixteen, Like Laura Ray Nash, she was the daughter
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  Speaker 1: of a sea captain and Charles Nash. I think his
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  Speaker 1: dad was some sea person. He was a captain, and
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  Speaker 1: two of his brothers like were sailors or something of
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  Speaker 1: that elk, like he had one brother who didn't go
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  Speaker 1: to sea, but everyone else is like on the ocean.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, the couple, Laura and Charles, they grew up
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  Speaker 1: in the same town of Harrington, Maine. Like that's where
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  Speaker 1: they were from, that's where they met, that's where they
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  Speaker 1: got married. And they were together sixteen years at this point,
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  Speaker 1: and for most of their time together, they sailed together.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was kind of unusual actually for wives to
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  Speaker 1: accompany their like seafaring husbands, but she did. And the
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  Speaker 1: two of them didn't have kids, which probably made it
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  Speaker 1: easier for them to travel together because there was no
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  Speaker 1: reason for them to just, you know, leave her at
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  Speaker 1: home now. And they seemed to enjoy each other's company
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  Speaker 1: and they loved to travel together. They worked together. That
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  Speaker 1: was their life and you know what good for them.
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  Speaker 1: So Charles Nash, he had been contracted to transport about
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  Speaker 1: fifteen thousand dollars worth of white pine from Boston Harbor
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  Speaker 1: all the way down to Buenos Erres and Argentina. So
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  Speaker 1: this was supposed to be a twelve thousand mile round trip,
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  Speaker 1: so six thousand miles south to Argentina, deliver the wood,
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  Speaker 1: collect sugar which will then be transported these six thousand
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  Speaker 1: miles back up to Boston Harbor, which just makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, if you're going to bring something down,
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  Speaker 1: bring something back up. Yeah. But Pine wasn't the only
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  Speaker 1: cargo he was going to be taken from Boston Harbor. No, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no. He was also transporting to Argentina. A twenty
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  Speaker 1: year old Harvard dropout, Leicester Hawthorne Monks. Monks was traveling
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  Speaker 1: to Argentina at the behest of his doctor. Basically he
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  Speaker 1: had a sensitive constitution ever since he had a biking accident,
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  Speaker 1: so like he walked with a stoop and his he
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  Speaker 1: was generally quite unwell. Some have even called him sickly.
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  Speaker 1: So he had a biking accident in the eighteen nineties,
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  Speaker 1: and all I can think of is like Penny Farthings,
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  Speaker 1: which I feel are not the correct date, but I
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  Speaker 1: like to think that his biking accident involved a Penny Farthing,
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  Speaker 1: and I will not be taking questions on this matter.
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  Speaker 1: So he ended up walking with a stoop, and because
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  Speaker 1: he was as a result of him just not being well,
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't doing well in school, and so we had
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  Speaker 1: to leave Harvard. And so they thought if we send
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  Speaker 1: him to a water climate, which is just the answer
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of things like oh the lady is
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  Speaker 1: and well she must go to be holiday by the
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  Speaker 1: sea for her constitution. And it's like, yeah, so we're
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  Speaker 1: going to send him to like the hot play because
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  Speaker 1: it's going to be better for him. So yeah, tropics.
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  Speaker 1: So as he's heading over, the trip is supposed to
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  Speaker 1: take about two months, and so Monks packed accordingly. In
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  Speaker 1: his pockets. He had six dollars in cash and a
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  Speaker 1: credit note for five hundred pounds. He had a revolver
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  Speaker 1: and some bullets for protection, and a letter of introduction
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  Speaker 1: from his father hoping that it's gonna like pay of
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  Speaker 1: the ways for like a sweetweed position. He's also got
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  Speaker 1: a good lock of books, a bottle of brandy, a
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  Speaker 1: bottle of whiskey, a cask of sixty bells, one suitcase,
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  Speaker 1: two trunks, some fruit because obviously we don't want to
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  Speaker 1: get scurvy when we're at sea. No oh, and what
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  Speaker 1: has been referred to as a healthy amount of cigars.
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  Speaker 1: So Monks would be staying in the aft part of
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  Speaker 1: the ship, which is like it's this bit where the
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  Speaker 1: stateroom is in the chart room. So it's basically where
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  Speaker 1: like the captain's stays. So it's kind of like, I
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  Speaker 1: want to say, the captain's cabin, but not quite. So
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  Speaker 1: there was like one room for the captain, so he's
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be in the stateroom, which he's given to Monks,
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  Speaker 1: and there's like a separate room which is where the
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  Speaker 1: wife is staying in. And the crew would work in
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  Speaker 1: shifts because they would always need someone to man the helm,
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  Speaker 1: which is the wheel of the ship. So you need
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  Speaker 1: to have crew working on the ship, and so they
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  Speaker 1: needed to have like a rotation going on. So when
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  Speaker 1: they were traveling anyway, sometimes the captain would sleep beside
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  Speaker 1: his wife in the same bed. Sometimes he wouldn't, and
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  Speaker 1: so we had like an extra sort of makeshift bed
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  Speaker 1: made in the chart room, and so he's in there,
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  Speaker 1: Monks is in his room, and then Laura is in
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  Speaker 1: another room. So there's three rooms in the aft house
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  Speaker 1: and that's where they're in and that a forward part
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  Speaker 1: of the ship. Everyone else is sleeping there. That's where
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  Speaker 1: they're all bunked in. Okay, okay, and so everybody else
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  Speaker 1: on the ship. Thirty three year old Thomas Brahm, who
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  Speaker 1: told people that he was a French Canadian from Nova
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  Speaker 1: Scotia who had a I'm gonna call it interesting vocabulary.
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  Speaker 1: So he spoke Russian, Spanish, English, French, and a bit
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  Speaker 1: of German, and he would say he was from different places, like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: my mother was, you know, German, and my father was French,
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  Speaker 1: and like just all this kind of stuff. But he
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  Speaker 1: was actually from Saint KITT's and he was a naturalized
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  Speaker 1: American citizen. So the reason that he was kind of
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  Speaker 1: vague about where he was from is because he was
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  Speaker 1: mixed race and white passing. So because slavery had only
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  Speaker 1: been abolished, what thirty years before, thirty one thirty one
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  Speaker 1: years before, so being a person of mixed race probably wasn't,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the most comfortable of living experiences in the
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  Speaker 1: nineteenth century. It just feels like maybe maybe not, so
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  Speaker 1: you can understand why he's a bit apprehensive to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: divulge his genealogy. But yes. Next is the second mate,
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  Speaker 1: Augustus Blomberg, who's a Russian born Finnish sailor who's also
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  Speaker 1: in his thirties, and he was known for being kind
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  Speaker 1: of just like quiet and chill. It's a fairly multicultural bunch,
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  Speaker 1: which is like unsurprising because, like I said, it's the
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  Speaker 1: main mode of transport. So there's quite a few from
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  Speaker 1: across the pond. You've got a twenty something French sailor,
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  Speaker 1: Francis Lehrich. You've got a bunch of Swedish fellas. So
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  Speaker 1: you've got Oscar Anderson, valkel Vasen and Charlie Brown and
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  Speaker 1: you could be forgiven for thinking, Wow, what a non
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  Speaker 1: Swedish name. Yeah, yeah, he's he's got a secret or to.
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  Speaker 1: We've got Henry Slice who's from Germany, and Henrique perducc
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  Speaker 1: who's from the Netherlands. And then we have Captain Nash's stewart,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Spencer. He's twenty four years old from the British
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  Speaker 1: West Indies and he's black. So I kept reading that
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  Speaker 1: he was like African American, but he's from the British
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  Speaker 1: West Indies, so I feel like that's kind of the
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  Speaker 1: wrong term, Like this is a man of color, this
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  Speaker 1: is a black man, and he has a very small wage.
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  Speaker 1: He's earning much less than everybody else. But he's got
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  Speaker 1: a pregnant wife back home that he wants to support
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  Speaker 1: and that's why he is on this group. So the
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  Speaker 1: ship is supposed to set sail on the second of July,
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  Speaker 1: and everyone's on board, everyone's ready to go. But then
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  Speaker 1: there are less than optimum sailing conditions. There's just really
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  Speaker 1: bad weather, and the whole thing is delayed for six
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  Speaker 1: days until the eighth of July, when they are finally
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  Speaker 1: able to set sail and off they go. They leave
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  Speaker 1: Boston Harbor half seven in the morning and off they
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  Speaker 1: go down south out of Massachusetts Bay on what's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be a simple way trip down the coast. So
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  Speaker 1: the first couple of days out the harbor, it is
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  Speaker 1: smooth sailing, and I mean that actually it was like
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  Speaker 1: smooth sailing. It was calm, it was overcast, like there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't too much of anything happening. And so by like
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  Speaker 1: day three, was it day three, they were already three
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  Speaker 1: hundred miles away from Boston, like they were just skipping
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  Speaker 1: the way down the coast. And so you've got monks.
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  Speaker 1: It's having like a really good time at sea, because
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  Speaker 1: can you imagine, like your first time going on a
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  Speaker 1: long voyage and it's actually quite nice, Like this is
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  Speaker 1: not what usually happens. Usually someone has to deal with
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  Speaker 1: like storms and seasickness, and everything, and he's hanging about
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  Speaker 1: in the cabin having dinner with the captain and his wife.
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  Speaker 1: He's having a rare tail, Like at one point he
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  Speaker 1: even goes dolphin watching. He's just like on a little
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  Speaker 1: cruise effectively. Okay, I just realized that earlier on I
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  Speaker 1: said that all the rest of the crew were bunked
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  Speaker 1: down at the foreward of the ship. No no, no,
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  Speaker 1: no no. So the first and second mate, they're also
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  Speaker 1: in the aft house because there's like stairs that come
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  Speaker 1: down off the deck, and so like one of them
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  Speaker 1: is sleeping in one and one of them is sleeping
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  Speaker 1: in the other. So you've got basically everybody's just kind
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  Speaker 1: of all about. You know, the captain's in the chart room,
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  Speaker 1: the main room has Nash, the other room has Laura,
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  Speaker 1: and then you've got the two mates like sleeping down
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  Speaker 1: at the stairs. Effectively, everybody had their own sort of space,
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  Speaker 1: which is quite nice when you think that they're trapped
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  Speaker 1: on a ship for two months together. You know, Kevin Favor, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to sing I'm up at Treasure Island
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  Speaker 1: this time, but I want you to know that I
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  Speaker 1: am thinking about it. So they are making really good speed.
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  Speaker 1: It's the thirteenth of July. They're only five days in
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  Speaker 1: and they are like over seven hundred miles from Boston,
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  Speaker 1: and they are like ahead of schedule, like they are
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  Speaker 1: just sweeping down the coast like they're making it. And
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  Speaker 1: so Captain Nash Laura Nash bram in monks, they all
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  Speaker 1: have dinner and then they go to bed. It's about
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  Speaker 1: eight o'clock at night, which is like typical off the
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  Speaker 1: go some monks. It's eight pm. He goes to bed.
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  Speaker 1: He changes into his night shirt. Now I have read
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  Speaker 1: that they said pajamas, but pajamas weren't really a thing
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  Speaker 1: for like another thirty years, I don't think, and so
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  Speaker 1: night shirts, like a long night shirt would have been
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  Speaker 1: what you were to bed. And so yeah, changes into
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  Speaker 1: his NightWare and snuggles into bed and just gently rock
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  Speaker 1: to sleep by the waves of the ship. And then
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  Speaker 1: about two o'clock in the morning, he is awoken by
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  Speaker 1: a sound and he just he's groggy, he's just waking up.
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  Speaker 1: He's not sure what this noise is. And then suddenly
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: he hears a scream, like a shriek. He's barely awake,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: he's trying to listen. He sits up straight to say
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: if he can hear better, and he hears a gurgling sound,
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: sort of as if someone was being strangled, and so
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: he leaps out of bed. He calls for the captain.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: He hears no response, so he gets his revolver, fills
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it with the bullets, and presses his ear against the door,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: listening for a sound. When he still hears nothing, he
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: unlocks his door. So like all of the little rooms
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: in the aft house they connect, they've got connecting doors.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: But he found that if he didn't lock his door,
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: it would make like a noise, it would rattle, and
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: it just was not great for him sleeping, and so
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: he was taken to locking it at night, which seems
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: to have been better for him, especially this evening. So
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: as he peers out of the door and he still
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: says nothing, he finally feels brave enough to like step
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: into the main room, and he wishes he didn't because
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: on the floor was Captain Charles Nash, just absolutely covered
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: in blood, and he looked like he'd been dragged from
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: his bed. And so even though the Captain is just
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: lay there on the floor just covered in blood like monks,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: he puts his hand on his head. He checks him,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: he's like physically touching him to see if he's alive,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: there's any response, and there was nothing, Like he says,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: there's a light gurgling sound. And so his first thought
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: is like, missus Nash, I need to get to missus
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Nash and get help. And so he goes to her door,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: opens it up, and what he sees are just massive
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: bloodstains all over her bed and he just reverses out
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: of there and goes up the steps out of the cabin.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: So he is creeping up revolver in hand, and he
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: sort of peeks and ducks and first mate Bram he
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: sees this and he's like, that's weird, that's suspicious, and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: thinking that you know, something's afoot he just chucks a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: bout of wood at him and hits him in the
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: head and monks, he's just not having it. He's like,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: fuck this for a game of soldiers. He just shouts
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: at him, He's like, there's been a murder, Like you
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: need to stop throwing stuff at me. You need to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: come down here and look at this. And initially Brahm's like, okay, sure, whatever,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: and he's just messing about thinks it's like a laugh,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and then like Monks is getting super serious. He's like, no,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: there's been a murder. You need to come. And as
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: they make their way down the stairs, like Monks asks
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: him like do you have a weapon, and he's like, yeah,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I've got a gun, like I've got it for protection.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And so he's like, okay, you get that. I'll get dressed,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: because remember he's still in his night shirt, you know,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: And so he goes gets his gun, he goes gets dressed,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: and then they meet sort of in the aft house.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: So they're all ready, they've got a lantern, and as
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: they enter the main cabin, like Monks asks Ram like
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: do you know what time it is? And allegedly they
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: weren't sure what time it was exactly because the clocks
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: in the aft house had been like put back a
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: little bit, like the time was wrong. So anyway, they
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: go in, they look at the bodies, They're like, okay,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they're definitely dead, and like Ram completely freaks out, like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: he starts sobbing. He talks about how he wore is
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you know, like he's been such a hard task master
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: for everybody that there's clearly been a mutiny and the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: captain and the wife has been murdered, and so he's like, Okay,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: it's going to be the second mate. It's going to
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: be Blomberg. He's done it, you know, because the two
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: of them didn't really get on, and people preferred Blomberg,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: and so this dude thinks there's like a huge mutiny happening,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and so the two of them, pistols in hand, make
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: their way up onto the deck. All the while Bram
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: is just like talking about this whole mutiny by Blomberg.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: He says that he was given wine by Blomberg. The
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: taste a bit off, so we thought it was poisoned,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: and so he threw it into the sea. And he
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: also said that like afterwards he'd gone down and had
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a sandwich specifically made by the steward, which was the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: stuild's job, like he was supposed to feed everybody, and
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: so he's like, I've been poisoned. They all want it together.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: He even talks about how he like threw up because
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: he was being poisoned. But anyway, the two of them
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: like they get the courage. They go find Spencer, who
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: is asleep in the forehouse with a good few other
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: members of the crew. So originally Spencer he doesn't believe
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: the men. And it's only when he goes and looks
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: through the skylight because it's like four ish in the
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: morning at this point, the sun is beginning to rise,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: so they've actually got like daylight to work with. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: so Spencer's looking in and he's like, okay, that's that's
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: some dead bodies. Completely undeterred by you know, the corpses,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: Spencer heads straight into the main cabin and so he
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: goes in, has a look around, and he runs back
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: up and he says that it's not just the captain
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: and his wife that are dead, but this second mate
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: is well, so Blomberg he's also dead. Is the way
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: that Spencer describes him is that he is in his
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bunk and I quote chopped up. Basically, he had been
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: stabbed a lot of times, a lot of times. So
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Bram ends up handing his pistol over to Spencer, and
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: then he tries to get like Monk's revolver, but he's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: just like, no, I'm not giving you my gun. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Spencer ends up like shooting a few bullets into the
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: water and just enough to like make a noise, and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: so the gun looks kind of scary, like it's very intimidating,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and so he's like, this will be useful, even though
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: it is a shit gun and the bullets are not shooting,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: like they're not doing what they're supposed to do, but
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: people will think they're there and that's good enough. So
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Spencer and Monks they're just like full on investigation mode,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Like they come across Bram's vomit and they're like, we
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: should like get a sample of this to test it,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: just to see if it is poisoned, like that's their theory.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But before they get a chance to mop it up,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Brahm is there on his like slippers and he well
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: he slips in it. He like just goes through it,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: thus rendering this just just ruining it really, which the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: other two found like a little bit suspicious. But Bram,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: he's like he's so convinced that there's a mutiny happening,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: even though the person he thought that was, you know,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: committing the mutiny is you know, all chopped up. So yeah,
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: he's he's still there and he sees this acci and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: it's got like a bloody hamprint on it, and he
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: like grabs it and he's like convinced, like he's ratting
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: about how he needs to make sure that they stop
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the mutiny right and they can't use it against him,
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: which you know, this is quite possibly, if not probably,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: if not absolutely definitely the mudel weapon, and he fucking
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: chucks it overboard because he's like, can't have the risk
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: of mutiny here, really, Bram, really, I mean this active
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: just insanity. Aside, they decide that they're just gonna they're
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: gonna move on and just continue throughout the ship, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: so they make their way to the ship's wheel where
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: and so they're at the wheel of the ship overlooking
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the aft house is Francis Lacuc, the French sailor. So
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: these three fellows are just like waving at the frenchman,
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: like waving their guns at him, and they're just like
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: calling out to him, and he's just like freaked out
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a little bit because this is unusual for this to happen,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: and especially these three specific individuals doing it together, like
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: it's weird, and he's panicking. He's like, what is happening?
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: What are you doing that? He's genuinely confused, and so
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: they have to explain to him, you know that there's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: been a trouble homicide on board the ship, and that
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: it is very likely, if not definite, that there is
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: a murderer on board. But they decide, you know what,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: now that we've told him, let's just leave him at
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: the wheel. It'll be fine, and they make their way
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to the forehouse to find the rest of the crew.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So you've got Hendrik Burdock, you've got Charlie Brown. They're
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: just chilling outside the fore house, just having a chat,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: you know, as one does. And so Spencer, Monks and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: Brahm they round up all of the crew minus Francis
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: because you know he's at the wheel, and they are
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: all interrogated by the three men. They're asking them questions
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: about where they were, what they were doing, and then
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: they inform them that the captain, Charles Nash, his wife
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Laura Ray Nash, and the second mate, Augustus Blomberg, we're
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: all axe murdered and they're bunks, and the whole crew
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: they're just like their flowers are gasted, like they are
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: shocked at this news. And Monks just takes on this
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: full like investigator role. He just starts questioning them all,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: asking them all when they've seen the second mate last,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and like, here's the thing, Like they're on shift jury,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: so like some of them will be on at night,
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: some of they'll be on during the day, and so
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: like none of their information is kind of matching up
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: because like some said they hadn't seen him since like
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the night before, some said they saw him at midnight.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Like the stores are all over the shop, and so
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: this just makes everybody really fucking uneasy. And you know
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: when when the finger of guilt comes out, everybody just
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: starts accusing everybody else, and brahm, he straight up decides
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to blame the victim. So he has this whole theory
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: about how it's Augustus Blomberg and how he went to
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: attack Laura Ray Nash and then he was stopped by
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Captain Charles Nash, who've gotten with an axe, but then
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: there was a struggle. He gets the axe off of
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: him and then hacks the captain to death, after which
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: the adrenaline leaves all his body along with the majority
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: of his blood, and he falls down on his own
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: bunk and dies. And even though there was absolutely, unequivocally,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: undoubtedly zero evidence for this theory, the whole crew is
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: just like sure. Yeah, no, that that seems about right,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and that seems fine. Partially. I think it's that sort
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: of fear, like, you know, like there was comfort in
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: knowing that if Augustus Blomberg was the perpetrator, like he's
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: now dead and so the risk to everyone else on
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: board is gone because you know he's dead. But if
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: they think the killer is someone else, then they're all
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: on tenderhooks because they're like either all under suspicion or
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: they are all sitting ducks. So Bram, he's first mate,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: so he just starts taking charge. Heaphills rank and just
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: starts ordering the crew about and he gets them to
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: like sort of clean up everything. And his first order
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: is to throw the bodies overboard. Now, luckily, Spencer convinces
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: him to not do this. He says it's a bad idea,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and again luckily he re agrees and does not do that,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: and Bram is left with a decision now as well,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: because they have to decide what to do, like are
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: they going to continue on and like just finish the trade.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Are they going to sail to the nearest port, like
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: are they going to head home? Like they have to
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: figure out what they're going to do. And so there's
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: like a nearby French port, Cayenne, and they're like, why
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: don't we go there? But I'm Francis Lek. He's not
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: keen on that because he had deserted the French navy
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: a couple of years before, so he's like politely declining
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to acquiesce with that request. So Bram He's got a
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: sextet in his charts and his brain for maths, and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: he calculates that it's going to be like eight days
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: travels like fifteen hundred miles to get to Cayenne. And
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: then like somebody suggests Bermura because it's like only five
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: hundred miles away, because they would sell five hundred miles.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: And so like Brahm's thinking, oh, if we go to Cayenne,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: like it's still on the way to Argentina, because then
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: that way we're not like going out of our way.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: We can still deliver our cargo because it still has
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: to be delivered, like that's our job. And after much
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: like back and forth, like they finally agree that they're
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: going to go to Nova Scotia because like the port
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: of Halifax was only like nine hundred miles away and
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: like the weather was good, the windows behind them and
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: so like it wasn't like too far off course, and
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: so off they went. They turned the boat around and
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: they sailed for Halifax. So as they're journeying up, he's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: like Bram is like taking like full proper like control
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: of the ship because he's acting captain because he's the
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: highest ranking crew member at this point. And so he's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: got Flantis like, he's got him as the second mate,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: and he's getting monks to write like the details of
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: the incident thus far, and he always makes him put
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in like his weird Augustus Blomberg theory. So after this
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: is all written down, he makes like the entire crew
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: sign it, sign this document. And then he's like, yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: we need to sort out these bodies. And so everybody's
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: in agreement, apart from Spencer, who does not want to
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: move the bodies, and it's said that they should be
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: moved to like one of the two lifeboats they happen
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to have like on the ship, and so all the
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: rest of the crew like get down to moving the bodies,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: wrapping them in tills, and all the while, whether they're
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: doing this, they have monks steer the ship This man
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: is not a sailor. This man is barely you know,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: a student like he's He should not be steering a
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: ship and he ends up oversteering it, and so they
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: have to correct it afterwards, because again this man is
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: not a sailor. Just keep one person who knows how
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: to use the wheel, who knows how to direct right like,
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: keep him in charge. So with the bodies in their
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: makeshift shrouds, could keep being suspicious. And this grows, like
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: every acts, every hook, like anything on the ship, their
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: handle is taken off in order to prevent them from
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: being used as weapons. And as the evening goes on,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: they get more and more suspicious. I remember, apart from
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Spencer and you know, the captain and Laura, no one
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: else on this ship knew each other before leaving port,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: like none of them. So Spencer has the only connection
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: to you know, the body's on board, and no one
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: else does like no one else's connected. No one else
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: knows each other, and so it's fairly easy for them
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: to turn because there is no loyalty there. Henry paradox.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: He goes up to Bramton, reports that he's not as
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: something off about Charlie Brown apart from the fact he's
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: a Swedish man called Charlie Brown. See Charlie Brown. He
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: had a habit of talking to himself, so he would
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: like mutter to himself and as he was walking around
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: the ship, and he would talk about weird shit, like
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Francis Lehirk he reported him talking about how easy it
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: would be to blow up the ship because all you'd
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: have to do is set fire to the kerosene stores
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: in the front end of the hole.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: In his behavior, it just gets more erratic as they
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: continue on, and he is very aware that people are
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: suspicious of him, which I think just puts more preyerer
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: on him. Like from the sounds of.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: It, it sounds a little bit like schizophrenia, like he's
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: hearing voices, he's talking to them, like seems a bit
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: like that. And so as his behavior just gets what
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: are the rest of the crew end up signing another
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: document saying that they think that Charlie Brown is guilty
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: of the crime. So this is the second person they've
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: accused of murder so far on the ship, and so
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Bram ends up arresting Charlie Brown, and initially they just
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: like chain him to the mast of the ship, after
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: which they sort of make a sort of I'm going
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: to say, like a well in the pine and they
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: chuck him in there like a little makeshift prison, and
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: he's there, he's secure, and so you think that, you know,
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: things are going to be a bit more chill. They're
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: going to relax for the rest of the journey now
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: that they believe they've apprehended the killer. No, no, they
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: do not, So Charlie Brown, he is imprisoned on the ship.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: And even with that, no one wants to do night
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: watch because nobody wants to be out on deck alone.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: So at this point, Spencer, who is still using the
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: broken pistol, the broken pistol from Bram, like, he goes
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: up to Monks and he's like.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Can I please have your working gun plase now, over
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the course of this journey, like, Monks had refused to
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: give his gun over to over to Bram because he
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: just didn't quite trust him. And so he does hand
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: his revolver over to Spencer, who had just over this
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: time shown that he was competent enough and you know,
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: decent enough to be trusted with a weapon. Now as
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: they're sailing, it is warm like it is it is
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: summer and heat and corpses. It's not a good mix
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: because the corpse stench, it is just it's just emanating
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: from the lifeboat. And this journey is taking longer because
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: of the lack of wind because remember it's it's a
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: sail ship. It's a ship with sails, and so it's
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: just not quite making the journey as fast as it
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: would like to. And so they are struggling. It's hot,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: they're not sleeping properly, and again corps is very aware
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: of corpses on the ship, and so it gets to
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: the point where they decide that they need to move
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the jolly, which is the lifeboat. It's called a jolly
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: fun not so much. And so they end up deciding
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: to like tugget sort of tow it behind the ship,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: just so that it's still there, but also so that
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: it's not you know, stinging the nostrils of the crew.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: And so they are journeying and they're not entirely sure
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: they're charting their journey correctly, like they're getting apprehensive, like
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: tension is rising, and then they come across Sable Island,
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: meaning that they're like one hundred or so miles away
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: from Halifax, and so they just they just keep on going.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: And at this point they're passing other ships and they're
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: trying to get their attention. They're like they're light honking
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: the fog horn or blowing the fog horn. They're just
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: they're fog horning the fog horn, like they're trying to signal.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: These ships. They're like putting up their distress flags, they're
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: putting flags upside down, like they're doing everything they're supposed
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: to be doing. But the ships just keep passing them
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: because like these ships there, merchant ships, they are off
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: to you know, their tradings. They're off to drop their
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: cargo and come back like off they go. And so
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Bram he's like working on the flags, he's trying to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: get it going, and then suddenly, without warning, Spencer pulls
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: out the revolver on Bram, grabs him by the throat,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: throws him to the deck and just he puts irons
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: on him, like he chains him because he's convinced that
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Bram has been trying to sabotage the entire return journey.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: And Bram here is denying accusations left, right and center,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and Spencer is just hitting them one after the other
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: after the other, because at this point they are so close,
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: they are inching towards land, and Spencer has a feeling
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: that Bram knows more than he's letting on because he
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: knows that Bram was out on deck that night, and
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: so if he wasn't involved in the murders, he had
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to be like linked to the murderers, like he had
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: to be in league with the killer. Also in addition, furthermore, Spencer,
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: who again he's the captain steward, he knows what the
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: captain carries with him, and what is missing is the
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: captain's pistol, and no one has found it on board yet,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: and so he goes in. He breaks open the foot
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: locker and there's there's not a gun in there. But
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: then he looked through the mattresses of Bram's bunk and
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: wedged in between two mattresses, it's the captain's pistol. So
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: at this point the captain is dead, the second mate
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: is dead, the first mate is you know, tied to
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: the mast, you know, and so they don't have anyone
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: charting their course, and so they end up taking him
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: off the mast and into the galley and force him
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: to like chart like find the way to land, and
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: so he's being so wishy washy about it. But then
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: they come across a fisherman and the fishing boat's just
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: like no, no, you're on the right track. And so
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: thanks mister fisherman, which also help you show that, you know,
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Brahm was taking them in the right direction, just very
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: very slowly. But yeah, they're they're not no longer suspicious
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: of them because they are still keeping him, you know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: chained because you know, the fever of murder, and they
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: just keep going. And so as they're going to bed,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: like as they're going to sleep, I should say, they're
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: like trying to figure out like what the next step is.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Like Spencer was asking, like what do we do about
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: the cargo? Like is this a salvoide situation? Or are
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: we supposed to keep taking it? Like what do we do?
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And like no one has an answer, and say any way,
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: they go to sleep, apart from the people who are
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: like on shift steering not monks, because he should not
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: do that. And so the next morning a rowboat arrives
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: pilots from Halifax Harbor and they're like, thank goodness, we're here.
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: And so the Herbert filler pulls into Halifax Harbor and
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: docks with the jolly boat dragging behind. And if you
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: thought good news traveled fast, well, bad news travels faster.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: So the local authorities they basically impound the ship. They
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: take the nine survivors who are just escorted off to
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: City Hall, the three bodies. They are removed from the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: lifeboat and brought to the Snow's Establishment, which is this
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: inn on Argyll Street, So it's fairly close to City
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Hall actually, and so everyone's just like a wash with
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a story, and people are excited and they just start
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: queuing up outside the inn, just wanting to go and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: look at these decomposing, hacked bodies like that. Listen. I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: understand they didn't have like Game of Thrones and stuff
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: back in the day, but also it seems a bit
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: much to just go look at corpses. I don't know
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: why that's interesting. I mean, I say that as someone
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: who's talking about said corpses. But people in glasshouses shouldn't
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: throw stones, I suppose AnyWho. Police Chief John O'Sullivan ends
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: up taking control of the case, and so he locks
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: up the entire crew and then monks. He gives his
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: like own office and so he ends up telling this
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: story which is very different to the logs, the Captain's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: logs and so on and so forth. It's like he's
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: suddenly this big hero who's solved this crime, who saw
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Charlie Brown confess to seeing Bram.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: Who met these gruesome muthers, and so.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: This becomes like a massive story. It's monks, the savior
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: of the Herbert Fuller, mutiny and murder and monks. He
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: ends up like sending a telegram, and so he sends
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: it to his father in Boston, who jumps on the
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: first train up to Halifax, and he brings with him
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: Wilburn Nash, who is the part owner, the other part
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: owner of the Herbert Fuller and also Captain Charles Nash's brother.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: And so all the stories about Brahm and murder and
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: all these theories came out and like the press couldn't
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: get enough of it, and whoever couldn't interview monks just
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: like made shit up. Because this is a time where
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like you could basically write anything in the press and
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: it didn't matter because there was no no sort of
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: code of journalism, Like you didn't need to back up
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: your facts. You could just print whatever the hell you wanted,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: and so they did embellished here and had a little
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: bit there, until it was just a completely different story.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: And of course, with all of the sailors being locked up,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: like couldn't really interview them, and so people would just
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: go digging or just make stuff up, and so they
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: would say, like this guy ran away from his wife,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: this guy was smuggling, this guy did this. And then
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: it came to Brahm, who because he had told so
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: many like stories about himself, because he was trying to
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: hide the fact that he was from the Caribbean, that
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: like all of these sort of lies and I say lies,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: but like just misinformation about his own past, like just
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: stories he told and you know this here and that there,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: like where he was born, when who he was with,
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: like and so because he had been misleading people about
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: his heritage, this made people more suspicious because like, oh,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: if he lied about this, what else would he lie about.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: And it's like, considering the time period, you can understand
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: him maybe not wanting to tell people that he was
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: a mixed race man from the Caribbean, But anyway, lots
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: of people liked to dogpile on him and stuff. So
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: you had people coming out of the rafters, like old
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: crewmates going on about how he was obsessed with money
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: and he was always talking about mutiny or and how
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: he was desperate to captain his own ship and because
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: of this obsession he had left his wife and three
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: children alone and just abandoned them to be at sea.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: But for every story that said that he was an obsessive, destructive,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: just philanderer, there were stories that hailed him as like
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: a very smart, intelligent, careful person, consider it hard worker.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Like just both sides there's stories coming out, like on
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle. So Bram he has taken
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: in and interrogated, right, and so they even like say
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: to him that Brown like came forward as a witness
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: saying that he saw Bram kill like everybody, and he
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: sought through the window of the cabin. But here's the thing.
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: Charlie Brown was at the wheel. He was, you know,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: at the helm of the ship. There's no way he
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: could have seen into the cabin if he was on
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: the wheel, which is where he was, because there were
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: several witnesses to him being at the wheel that night.
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: And Bram he is just steadfast in his innocence he's
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: just not giving anything up if he has anything to
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: give up. And so with you know, with no confession.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: The next day the inquest is held. An autopsy was
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: conducted the day before, and the doctor William D. Finn
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: concluded that all three victims had been attacked by a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: sharp instrument that had crushed their skulls and torn open
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: their faces. Now, initially it states that Laura ray Nash
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: was actually assaulted, but this is like revised later ron
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: because they say there's no evidence to it. But they
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: also find like her wedding ring is like sitting on
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a cabinet in that a lock of her hair had
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: been cut off with sizzles. So the lock of hair
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: just feels a little bit trophy, Like I'm just putting
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: it out there. So Bram, he is still stating that
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: he's innocent. Meanwhile, you've got Charlie Brown and he's like
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: he's sticking to his guns. He's like, he sees Bram
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: into the Aft house just after one o'clock, he hears
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: a strange noise and after he hears noise, he looks
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: into the window and sees Bram hit Captain Nash with
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: an axe. And then after this he sees Bram leave
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: the alf house and come to him at the wheel
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: and asks him with the axe still dripping with blood
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: in his hand, asks him how the ship was sailing,
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: and then he walks off as if nothing happened. Francis
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: lehe comes over and he says that Charlie Brown had
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: told him that he shot a man in Rotterdam and
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: got away with it by pretending to be crazy. And
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: after the inquest, like the rest of the sailors, they're
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: all in like this one communal cell. Meanwhile, Brahm is
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: issued a warrant for his arrest for triple murder, triple
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: homicide and the trial it's going to be held in Boston.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: While Lester Hawthorne Monk, he is released. And here's the thing.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: He's well to do. He's well off, he's well manned,
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: like he's rubbing elbows in all the right places. And
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: so he gets released because you know, golden hand shakes,
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: brown envelopes, you know the thing. And so they're doing
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: what they're doing and he's out. And Spencer he's pissed
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: at this because he's complaining that like as soon as
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: the hit dry Land, Monks has been telling stories like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: he has been telling some fantasy story, but he's some
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: big swashbuckling hero and it's pissing him off. And then,
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: under secret orders, all of the men are removed in
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the middle of the night from the prison and put
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: aboard a steamership. We're there to stay until the trial
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: in Boston. And remember Spencer's got a pregnant wife at home,
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: so he's just getting angrier as the day goes on. Meanwhile,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Charlie Brown, that incredibly Swedish's Swedish sounding name turns out
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: to be fake. I know, you're shocked, gasp. Turns Out
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: his real name is just as Leopold Westerberg, and so
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: he says the reason that he like changed his name
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: to get on the ship was because he had, like
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: then with a previous captain. He was worried about being blackballed,
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and so he wanted to make sure that he could
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: like get a job, and so he used a fake name.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: But then once his real name hits the press, you've
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: got all these other people who just come out the
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: would work and they are just talking about like how
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: he's paranoid and unhinged and just a weirdo. And it
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: just goes on and on, and as the trial approaches
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: and they are making their way towards Boston, the rumors
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: just grow in spiral and just it gets to the
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: point that everyone thinks, like the public think that, you know,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the whole crew know more than what they're telling and
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: so like they're waiting at the harbor for these people
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: to get off because they like they want justice. So
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: apart from Brown and Bram, who like had no bail,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: like they were not getting out because the trail was
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: set and so they were just like waiting for it
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: to happen. And the crew, the rest of the crew,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the other seven, sorry, the other six, they were given
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: like one hundred dollars bail, which was then increased to
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: five hundred, and so like they you know, they were
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: deliberately hanging to try and not let them out. And
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: then Spencer, Spencer actually manages to have his bail paid
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: because some philanthropists, like some rich fella just you know,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: wanted to help the This is a quote by the way,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the poor colored men, and like straight away, as soon
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: as he's a free man, ish as soon as he's
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: like out on bail, Spencer head straight for New York
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: and then just start seeking salvage rights for the Herbert
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Fuller and now the trail was fast approaching. So initially
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: Brown was being arranged along with Bram, but then his
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: charges were dropped when it was brought towards like a
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: grand jury, and so then it was just Thomas Bram
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: who was accused of the murder of Captain Charles Nash,
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Laura Ray Nash, und Augustus Blomberg. The trial started on
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: the fifteenth of December eighteen ninety six, where Thomas Bram
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: had pleaded not guilty in front of Judge LeBaron Bradford
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: Coat with his lawyer James Cotter by his side. So Carter,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: he is like at the time one of New England's
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: best lawyers. And let's face it, he took this case
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: because he knew he would get his name in the papers,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: like like he thought he was doing a good one.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: And this trial it is intense, Like they even bring
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: out like a miniature of the ship so they can
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: like show the bunking situation, and so they have like
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: and the Da Sherman whore. He is using this like
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: diorama to his advantage, like he is explaining that you
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: know positioning if you know Brad was on the deck
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and Brown was at the wheel. There is no way
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: with everyone else asleep, there's no way that Brown like
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: he would be able to leave the wheel unattended without
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: going massively of course, like he couldn't. He just couldn't
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: do it, Like it wasn't going to be something possible,
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: whereas Broum like he had you know, means an opportunity,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: like the motive. I don't know what the motive was
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: because allegedly he was really mad about the lack of
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: towels that the sailors had and he complained to the
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: captain about it. But I feel like that's not strong
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: enough for you know, at murdering. But anyway, so Shevyn horror.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: He's just basically following monks story, and so he and
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: to add to the racism, like he apologizes to the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: jury and to the court that they have to listen
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: to Spencer's testimony. Yep, no, that's it, Like he apologizes
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: to the court. What But anyway, he goes on about
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: how like you know, Bram's coming up with all these
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: mad theories and making everyone follow it. And so the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: DA comes forward and he says, like there's no guarantee,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: like there's no proof that Laura Ray Nash was you know,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: essayed because the body was so badly decomposed. But when
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it was found, her skirt was hitched up past her
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: waist and so like context clues. Now, eventually they do
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: bring Monks to the stand and like he's going through
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: his story, like hitting all his marks and everything's going
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: great until he's cross examined, and so the events comes
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: up and as it turns out, like they're asking if
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: he was sure that the door between like his room
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: and Laura Nash's room was locked, and he's not sure.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: He doesn't quite remember, and you know, what did he
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: know about like the loaded pistol that the captain had hidden,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: And he's like, again, not entirely sure about that scenario.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And then they question about his health issues, you know,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: his constitution, which is the reason why he's was sailing
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: to Buenos Aires, and it turned out that they were
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: drink related possibly and also also possibly because he had
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: venereal diseases. So effectively, they were trying to say that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: he was a drunk who was riddled with STIs, which
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: he very well could have been. That could be what
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: was causing his issues but ms to say, and Charlie
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: Brown he is brought to the stand then as well,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: and he's gone from like witness to accused to witness again,
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: and so they just start pulling out all the stops
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: because they were like, Justice Leopold Wassterberg, which is interesting
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: because oh my god, actually that's his real name, but
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: that's not the name that they thought was his real
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: name initially, like at first they thought it was Jose Vasbach,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: but then the key had changed his name a couple
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: times while living in like Quebec, and he's like, well,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you know, my name was too difficult for you know,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the native speakers, so I changed it a bit, which
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: is reasonable, but also to you know, the suspicious mind. Suspicious.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: So then Brown, as it turns out, they're like talking
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: about him shooting a man in Amsterdam, Amsterdam and Rotterdam
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: and using the insanity plea and he's like, that's just
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: a story I made up to entertain, you know, everyone
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: on the ship. And then they contacted the police and damn,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: and it turns out that he had shot him man,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: but not killed him. Like he woke couple eleven days
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: later and was fine apparently, but like this whole thing.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: He goes back and forth and so like they can't
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: take anything he says it's true and like and isy
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: you know, perjuring himself on the stand, and anyway, he's
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: dismissed as a witness because they're just like, okay, we
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: can't trust anything you're saying. And so it goes back
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: and forth, and Bram is finally on the stand and
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: he's using a lot of nautical terminology and so like
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: they have to like get him to like the prosecution
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: has to get him to like define terms and explain himself,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: and it makes it sort of jagged and difficult to understand.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: He's explaining like how weird Charlie Brown was and how
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: you can actually like lash the wheel in like in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: a certain way and it'll be fine for twenty minutes,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: so you've got time to do something and sailing will
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: be fine. But then you get to come back and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: make sure everything's like good, and so he says there's
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  Speaker 1: ways to do it, like Charlie Brown could have done it,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, this goes on and he's finally dismissed
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  Speaker 1: from the stand and the judge has to remind the
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  Speaker 1: jury like they're not trying to decide who killed, like
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  Speaker 1: if someone else like killed you know, the three people
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  Speaker 1: on board. But they just had to find out decide
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  Speaker 1: whether Thomas Bram was guilty or innocent. And so the
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  Speaker 1: twelve men took over thirty hours to come to a conclusion.
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  Speaker 1: It was like over one hundred votes all all. And
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  Speaker 1: so they finally delivered on the second of January eighteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety seven, finding Thomas Bram guilty of murder. And so
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  Speaker 1: Bram is like asked, I was anything he had to say,
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  Speaker 1: and he stands up and he says, if I have
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  Speaker 1: got to die, I thank god I die an innocent man.
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  Speaker 1: And so after the trial, like his attorney, James Carter, like,
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  Speaker 1: he filed for a retrial on the ground that the
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  Speaker 1: judge had major marks to advise the jury and that
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  Speaker 1: like the members of the jury like a good few
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  Speaker 1: of them have been prejudiced towards Brohn because he's mixed race.
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  Speaker 1: So he's like, you know, and surprisingly, like the appeal
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  Speaker 1: was granted and there's supposed to be a new hearing
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  Speaker 1: set for the twentieth of January. Meanwhile, like the attorney,
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  Speaker 1: his defense attorney goes onto the ship. He goes onto
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  Speaker 1: the Herbert Fuller to like do all these experiments just
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  Speaker 1: to see if you know, you'd be able to see
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  Speaker 1: through the window whilst at the wheel, and like doing
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  Speaker 1: all this stuff. And he's like, it's impossible to actually
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  Speaker 1: do this very specific thing. And Spencer, who had like
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  Speaker 1: agreed with this, signs an affid. David's saying as much,
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  Speaker 1: and like he sends it off to the court in Boston,
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  Speaker 1: but it doesn't arrive in time, and so like the
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  Speaker 1: judges turned down the retrial like while it was on
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  Speaker 1: its way, that being said, they probably wouldn't listen to
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  Speaker 1: him anyway, you know. So a week after this, Thomas
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  Speaker 1: Brown was.
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  Speaker 3: Back in court to hear his sentencing, and so his
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  Speaker 3: sentences stated.
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  Speaker 5: Thomas M. Bram is to be executed on the eighteenth
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  Speaker 5: of June, somewhere between eleven o'clock and two o'clock, hanged
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  Speaker 5: by the neck until dead.
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  Speaker 1: And so quarter like he is levid, and so he
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  Speaker 1: just puts, like puts forward another request. We're hearing in
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  Speaker 1: front of the Supreme Court. The sentence is suspended until October,
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  Speaker 1: and so there's a hearing and he presents sixty seven
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  Speaker 1: cases of error to the court, including evidence from the boat,
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  Speaker 1: including like the statements of showing you know how you
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  Speaker 1: couldn't see in if you were up on the wheel.
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  Speaker 1: A new trial is set for March, and they go
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  Speaker 1: through this whole thing again, and after this very long,
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  Speaker 1: very intense trial, Brahm is once again found guilty of murder. Now,
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  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, the second time, he is not sentenced
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  Speaker 1: to death. Instead, he is sentenced to prison. He serves
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  Speaker 1: seventeen years and he is paroled thanks to this change
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  Speaker 1: in the law something to do with them, like prisoners
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  Speaker 1: who had served more than fifteen years of the sentences
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  Speaker 1: could be released. And then four years after that, the
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  Speaker 1: Herbert Fuller sinks off the coast of Monaco because it
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  Speaker 1: was hit by a German submarine, and bram he's released
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  Speaker 1: from prison and opens a hot dog stand and saves
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  Speaker 1: up for his own ship, the Alvina, which he captains
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen twenty six, which he then loses fairly sharpish thereafter.
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  Speaker 1: After this, he moves to Georgia and he's like lasting
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty two and then just nothing disappears. But
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  Speaker 1: even though Brown was convicted of the murder, there suspicions
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  Speaker 1: that it could have been someone else, like so it
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  Speaker 1: could have been Charlie Brown or even Lester Hawthorne Monks.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got Monks who is allegedly a drinker, like
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  Speaker 1: it's suspicious, and he's like connected to these two rooms.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't hear anything until the very end, three people
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  Speaker 1: are violently murdered, and he doesn't hear anything until a
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  Speaker 1: last scream, like a whole commotion happens, and hears nothing
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  Speaker 1: in the room next door. There are no witnesses to
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  Speaker 1: where he was at the time of the murderer to
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  Speaker 1: say that he was asleep. And when he gets back,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: he has like you know, preferential treatment he has and
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: he gets treated like a hero. And you've got Charlie
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  Speaker 1: Brown who's paranoid and talking to himself and turns out
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  Speaker 1: he is a violent past who claims to have witnessed
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  Speaker 1: the murder when he literally could not have done that
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  Speaker 1: unless he was just like peeking through while having the
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  Speaker 1: wheel lashed. Maybe, and then Brahm who wanted to be captain.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: And also the hotel thing. But here's the thing, Like
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  Speaker 1: it's weird. It's a murder mystery on a ship in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteenth century. It's unlikely we'd ever get a real answer,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: although but Yacathochistic could figure it out. And in case
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: anyone was wondering, Charles and Laura ray Nash were buried
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  Speaker 1: in Forest Hill Cemetery in Harrington in Maine.
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't find where Augustus was laid to rest, but
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  Speaker 1: at least Charles and Laura were buried together. And so
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  Speaker 1: ends the story, which has more questions and answers of
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  Speaker 1: the murder mystery aboard the Harbert filler. So if you
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  Speaker 1: liked my retelling of this horrible tale, feel free to
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  Speaker 1: wrate in review five stars. If you don't want to revate,
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  Speaker 1: revate review yep, five stars. Don't see anything at all,
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  Speaker 1: sh nobody needs to hear it. Okay, So it is
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  Speaker 1: time for recommendation time. Don't forget buy your tickets. Honestly,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: the live shows are more funness. This was a really
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: hard one because it's just so heggeldy, piggledy and all
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: over the place like it was. It was tough. But yes,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: recommendation time for watching. I'm gonna suggest the Righteous Gemstones
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: because sometimes you just need a laugh. Did you think
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: I was gonna go with Monty Python, I bit you did,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I bet you did. But no, no, let's go with
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: the righteous gemstones. It's it's just such a good time
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: for lessening, just to continue the whole true crime scenario
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: Buried Bones like, I quite enjoy Buried Bones because I
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: like an old timey crime and for reading. You know,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: I haven't read anything new recently, so I'm just gonna
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: recommend Wuthering Heights and read the actual book. It's more
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: than just Kathy and Heathcliff like. It's a whole story,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: like the Mirror is. It's the mirrors their own character.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: It's a whole thing. Anyway, I'm gonna wish you good night. Adios.
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  Speaker 1: Au Revoir of Widow of Friends, Bye bye,