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- 0:06[SPEAKER_03]: Welcome, IU fans of the Central Indiana Sports Report for the IU Report with Grant Shows and my cuddle.
- 0:14[SPEAKER_03]: It's the week of the Oregon Football Game and guys.
- 0:18[SPEAKER_03]: If IU wins this one, not only are they in the driver's seat in the Big 10, we need to start having a whole different conversation.
- 0:28[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, and I think that this is going to be a big test for Indiana, the magnitude of the game
- 0:37[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of stake here.
- 0:38[SPEAKER_00]: I think the biggest thing is, as crazy as this sound is, is the sound, is that your pride's on the line a little bit here.
- 0:47[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Indiana's pride is on the line here.
- 0:50[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we saw them in big games last year, kind of craft their drawers a little bit when it came down a high pressure, a high pressure situation.
- 0:59[SPEAKER_00]: You can chalk that up to guys never been there before.
- 1:03[SPEAKER_00]: you're playing probably better competition, but I think in being in a sing good competition, so far this year, I think probably better competition, than they saw leading up to Ohio State Notre Dame last year.
- 1:14[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a big test going on the road to Oregon on Saturday.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, anytime you go to Oregon, that's a freaking, that's not the test, that's the freaking bar exam.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_02]: When it comes to college football, this is as big as it gets.
- 1:29[SPEAKER_02]: Oregon, they're a monster,
- 1:33[SPEAKER_02]: almost two decades and out really is goes back to the mike bralotti area excuse me era of organ football but chip kelly comes through there they had a little bit of a fall off under the willy tagger mario crystal ball rain but uh... day and landing he there's a reason he's listed on everybody's next coach at alabama list uh... everybody in college football thinks highly of this guy organs the cool team
- 2:02[SPEAKER_02]: for kids of a certain age, if had the uniform envy of everybody in college football, people trying to replicate that for years now.
- 2:11[SPEAKER_02]: And each time you go to Hudson, there's a reason no big 10 teams won there since, before Grant was born, y'all know who that was.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_02]: But it's so amazing to just be sitting here.
- 2:25[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, let's go the eyes of college football or once again on Indiana, yeah, let's go.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_02]: This is what you just dream about when you're a fan of a program.
- 2:37[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, they crapped their drawers a couple times last year but hopefully they're potty trained this time.
- 2:42[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go.
- 2:44[SPEAKER_00]: I wanna correct you here is that I was alive
- 2:52[SPEAKER_00]: with Indiana.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_00]: Oh god, I was probably three months old.
- 2:56[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay, my apologies.
- 2:58[SPEAKER_00]: And Greg will get this because it's a thing in our local area, but my dad always tells me that we were at the Tipped and Pork Festival.
- 3:07[SPEAKER_00]: When that happened, so he said they went out there with DeNardo on a fluke and ended up winning that guy.
- 3:12[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the box score from that game.
- 3:14[SPEAKER_00]: They were up like
- 3:20[SPEAKER_00]: What was it 30 to 24 something like that?
- 3:23[SPEAKER_00]: But it might go once all Henry Lee summer live at the Tipton Port Festival.
- 3:28[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow, okay, big event, best.
- 3:31[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Henry Lee summer at the Green Town Fair one time.
- 3:36[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, this is the bar exam here.
- 3:38[SPEAKER_00]: Indiana needs this win, but let's be real if Indiana doesn't win this game.
- 3:43[SPEAKER_00]: Are we really gonna come on after the game and the reaction and be,
- 3:48[SPEAKER_00]: all up in arms or we're going to be upset.
- 3:51[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, we we kind of sat here at the beginning and predicted a 11 and 1 10 and 2 record for Indiana, Penn State and Oregon were the ones that we thought that Indiana would probably drop.
- 4:04[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'm confident.
- 4:05[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so confident going into the game because I think Indiana statistics wise when you start pairing up the wins that
- 4:13[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody even comes close to what Indiana's done this year.
- 4:16[SPEAKER_00]: They've dominated almost every game, to buy a list of Iowa games.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_00]: Even the old Dominion game, they dominated the game because they just didn't show on the scoreboard, but it showed on the stat sheet and it showed on the film.
- 4:29[SPEAKER_00]: The eye test just wasn't there.
- 4:32[SPEAKER_00]: The eye test was there against Iowa.
- 4:34[SPEAKER_00]: We're, yeah, Indiana pride didn't play the way that they probably should have, but they're still able to come in
- 4:44[SPEAKER_00]: I like their chances Saturday more than I really like their chances last year.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
- 4:47[SPEAKER_00]: It's Notre Dame and Ohio State.
- 4:50[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to disagree with one thing that you said.
- 4:52[SPEAKER_02]: I do think we're going to be upset if Indiana goes up there.
- 4:58[SPEAKER_02]: And it is a boat race.
- 5:01[SPEAKER_02]: If Indiana has another big game, if it's another, because we're going to have to hear about it, if they go into another big game and they fall behind by 20.
- 5:12[SPEAKER_02]: and they're just never really competitive.
- 5:15[SPEAKER_02]: I think that there's going to be a little bit of handring on the picture.
- 5:21[SPEAKER_03]: I think I was too good for that.
- 5:23[SPEAKER_02]: I think I hope you're right in the early lines and Vegas.
- 5:29[SPEAKER_02]: Kind of agree with you.
- 5:30[SPEAKER_02]: They started out as a double digit underdog and that lines all way down to seven and a half.
- 5:34[SPEAKER_02]: So it shows that
- 5:37[SPEAKER_02]: At least the public right now is on Indiana.
- 5:40[SPEAKER_01]: If they have the best quarterback in college football, which some people say they do, if they haven't argued, we have the best college quarterback in college football too, though.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the one I'm doing.
- 5:52[SPEAKER_02]: The thing about Oregon, man, is a lot of, I was a tractor, Oregon's a Ferrari.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_02]: That's like an Olympic sprint team running around out there on the field.
- 6:05[SPEAKER_02]: To replicate that speed, you just can't do it.
- 6:07[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana's not slowed.
- 6:09[SPEAKER_02]: I any stretch of the imagination.
- 6:11[SPEAKER_02]: I think watching them play Illinois prove that to some degree.
- 6:15[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think Illinois was prepared for what Indiana had as far as speed overall on the team.
- 6:20[SPEAKER_02]: But whenever you watch Oregon, you just feel like, did I hit a button on my television?
- 6:25[SPEAKER_02]: Is this being played in fast forward?
- 6:28[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's just the speed at which they play.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_02]: And really, really good teams have gone to odds.
- 6:34[SPEAKER_02]: and come out on the losing in Ohio State just did it last year.
- 6:37[SPEAKER_02]: And that was a hell of a game if you remember correctly.
- 6:42[SPEAKER_02]: But if any of you goes up there and competes, no, we're not going to be upset whatsoever on Sunday on about 730 on Saturday night coming out of that.
- 6:55[SPEAKER_02]: But if they go up there and they get beat up again, we just know when we have to prepare ourselves.
- 7:01[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to have to hear about it all over again.
- 7:04[SPEAKER_00]: Cody's of the world are going to be kind of like that picture of Mr. Burns from the Simpsons.
- 7:10[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm talking about?
- 7:11[SPEAKER_00]: Where he's like, oh, yeah, together.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
- 7:13[SPEAKER_00]: I know exactly what you're saying.
- 7:15[SPEAKER_00]: That's that those people are going to be like, man, this is going to be this is going to be like Indiana haters Super Bowl on Saturday.
- 7:25[SPEAKER_00]: If they lose, I'm not saying I kind of am,
- 7:31[SPEAKER_00]: If Indiana loses, then this is going to be everybody who hates Indiana's Super Bowl.
- 7:38[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's the first reading thing about it is, I mean.
- 7:43[SPEAKER_02]: How many teams legitimately are gonna stroll into Eugene on a given Saturday and come out with a win?
- 7:50[SPEAKER_03]: Zero, nine.
- 7:52[SPEAKER_02]: It's just this place that anybody can roll up there and any, I know all freaking 18 teams in the SEC would go up there and win by seven touchdowns, including Texas and Kentucky and Mississippi State.
- 8:05[SPEAKER_02]: Every single one of them is retouched down favorites if they go into Oregon.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.
- 8:13[SPEAKER_02]: There's nobody else in color.
- 8:15[SPEAKER_02]: It's not like it's an every day occurrence for somebody to get.
- 8:19[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to preemptively just put this out there.
- 8:22[SPEAKER_02]: If you were going to come in and talk smack if Indiana loses this game on Saturday, go ahead and f off.
- 8:29[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I'll be as polite about that as I can.
- 8:32[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Indiana lost to the number three team who went down on their by week because
- 8:42[SPEAKER_02]: dropped a spot they need is going on the road to play the number three team in the country if they don't win it's not an indictment of how bad of a program they are and now if they struggle and lose to Michigan state the next week or if you see a leg gets them at home have a haters ballman yeah i don't care but if you got something to say it's not that big of an indictment
- 9:11[SPEAKER_02]: And I hate that we're sitting here having this podcast almost as if it's a formality, and we'll get much more into the preview and maybe talk more about how Indiana can win this game.
- 9:20[SPEAKER_03]: Not a formality.
- 9:23[SPEAKER_02]: But Purdue fans, you haven't, you still haven't beaten a power 14 since the bucket game in 2023, so shut up.
- 9:34[SPEAKER_02]: You hear that Jake done in your boys, shut up.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know Jake Dunn, I've never seen him.
- 9:40[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what he looks like, but he's the human embodiment.
- 9:44[SPEAKER_02]: Cody, with an E, out and wherever the hell you're from, shut up.
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- 10:08[SPEAKER_00]: probably, if Indiana didn't have sig, for some reason, or God forbid he left, take the Penn State job when James Franklin gets fired, it's probably what'll happen.
- 10:23[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably no coach, I like more in the country than Dan Landing, other than sig.
- 10:30[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's a likable guy, I think he's a great coach.
- 10:39[SPEAKER_00]: He's a very good coach, like I said, he's not one where it's like Ryan Day, Ryan Day's a dick.
- 10:45[SPEAKER_00]: Marcus Freeman's kind of a dick too, but Dan Lannick at least, I respect, probably more than I respect fair, it's a little bit, because I think Lannick is gonna be V. I think he's gonna be the name to go get when Albanna comes open or when another big job comes open, that
- 11:03[SPEAKER_00]: can kind of compete with Oregon.
- 11:05[SPEAKER_00]: The thing is just that it's going to be hard to lure away a guy like him for Morgan when you literally are your biggest booster is the owner of Nike.
- 11:15[SPEAKER_02]: So I was money's never going to be an issue for Oregon.
- 11:19[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to have to be a Texas Alabama size job to get landing out of there.
- 11:26[SPEAKER_02]: I'm with you.
- 11:26[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have an issue at all with Dan Landing.
- 11:32[SPEAKER_02]: So moving on to basketball, big weekend for the Hoosiers on the hardwood, not necessarily even on the hardwood on the asphalt, they're big reconnect with the fan weekend.
- 11:45[SPEAKER_02]: Happen last weekend, Grant, you saw it Thursday night, the event out on Kirkwood.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_02]: with the students for the students, Trent Sicily's banking and three pointers from the top of the five guys.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_02]: Darren de Vries is buying around at the upstairs pub, Tucker de Vries and Bud Wilkinson or just heating it up from three point range.
- 12:09[SPEAKER_02]: And then Friday night, a lowly attended, I will say,
- 12:15[SPEAKER_02]: inner squad scrimmage at assembly hall.
- 12:18[SPEAKER_02]: What have you heard?
- 12:18[SPEAKER_02]: What have you seen?
- 12:19[SPEAKER_02]: What what stood out to you from those two things?
- 12:22[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I unfortunately wasn't able to go last Thursday to the to the who's your hoops on Kirkwood, but the perception that it got is that it's I think it could maybe sorrow tradition.
- 12:38[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a really cool thing that they did when you saw that they were going to be doing it.
- 12:43[SPEAKER_00]: It was a really cool thing.
- 12:45[SPEAKER_00]: and it seemed to be a success the shot or the video of Sicily hitting the shot there from the balcony and me can't make that up this is going to be a memorable thing you know no-to-game i don't know if you saw this but no-to-game kind of replicated that the kind of their own thing
- 13:02[SPEAKER_00]: which was really neat.
- 13:04[SPEAKER_00]: And you kind of hope that a lot of these schools kind of start to do things like that.
- 13:09[SPEAKER_00]: Go outside, get the kids, get the students involved.
- 13:12[SPEAKER_00]: And this is no knock on Purdue, but I noticed this when I went to be Purdue Ellen, only game over the weekend, you drive through Purdue.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_00]: There's nowhere to do that at.
- 13:23[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not even like trying to hate on them, but like Purdue's just not accessible like that.
- 13:28[SPEAKER_00]: Butler is just Butler.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_00]: Notre Dame's got something like that.
- 13:31[SPEAKER_00]: That's why Andy has so great because they have the get the students involved.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_00]: It's not for the the old people, the grandma grandpas of the world who grandpa dresses like Bob Knight did in 1988.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_00]: It still got to all the games and stuff and get involved and get fired up.
- 13:51[SPEAKER_00]: It's not directed for those kind of people.
- 13:54[SPEAKER_00]: the kind of people that's directed for is like you said, the people my age, the college students.
- 13:59[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's really cool when you can get your students involved like that with the inner squad's scrimmage, the red and white scrimmage, I'm let's face it.
- 14:09[SPEAKER_00]: That's basically an open practice at that point.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of teams do that in the end.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like hasn't done that a while.
- 14:18[SPEAKER_00]: They've done the who's your hysterical.
- 14:20[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't sound like to me.
- 14:21[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I know for fat,
- 14:23[SPEAKER_00]: That teacher who Tom Kirkwood was kind of, that was your who's your hysteria for this year.
- 14:28[SPEAKER_00]: And I like that idea better.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_02]: The hysteria thing in that whole genre of event, I think is sort of run its course for fans.
- 14:38[SPEAKER_02]: You know, you got to do something, I think that's more engaging for the student body.
- 14:41[SPEAKER_02]: And sometimes you got to go to them.
- 14:44[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what Indiana did, that rather than make them come to you and showing a willingness to go to them,
- 14:51[SPEAKER_02]: to put something on to get their attention.
- 14:53[SPEAKER_02]: That's a much bigger step for the program than having some hysteria thing where a few people stand up and do the clapping unison that Indiana fans are obsessed with.
- 15:07[SPEAKER_02]: And they introduce people, although if there's a year to introduce a team,
- 15:14[SPEAKER_02]: It would be this one because I still don't know.
- 15:15[SPEAKER_02]: I still don't know 90% of these guys are, but from what I've seen and heard about the scrimmage, just the start contrast of actively shooting three pointers for the first time.
- 15:30[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't even think it qualifies as the Archie years.
- 15:35[SPEAKER_02]: So go back to the Korean era as to hunting for the three points shot maybe before you were just pounding it out and dumping it into the post.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and that's what stood out is just modern basketball actually being played at assembly hall that's the thing where i've noticed i think this is going to be the first coach since the last two that you can kind of compare to the time of the time crane era a little bit and
- 16:03[SPEAKER_00]: where they're able to get students involved on campus.
- 16:07[SPEAKER_00]: One of the cool things I noticed back when students are moving in is, you see the videos that the staff help and this, the everyday students, not even like the basketball players move in on campus.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_00]: They're in the dorm and we all know that's basically a publicity stunt.
- 16:24[SPEAKER_00]: it is what it is just to kind of get that on video and post on social media.
- 16:29[SPEAKER_00]: Dude, I didn't see 65 year old Mike Woodson in there helping some 19 year old freshman move in.
- 16:36[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't see Archie do that because he's just a dick or she's trying to help people put things in their closet and needing like help getting stuff to the top shelf would have been a
- 16:52[SPEAKER_00]: You can't blame him for not showing up for anything.
- 16:56[SPEAKER_00]: But those kind of things are kind of things that you'd see cream doing.
- 17:00[SPEAKER_00]: A cream would go out and talk to the students and walk through on campus and fist bump people.
- 17:06[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know, especially his first year when they sucked, and they were, he was trying to rebuild the program back up.
- 17:13[SPEAKER_00]: They won five games that year, and he's going through, and hey, young to basketball games, gun to games, all this kind of stuff that you've seen at Kelsey do.
- 17:21[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I was gonna I was gonna say that Pat Kelsey was running through campus on game days early last year when People didn't even really even know who he was still at that point because he was just such an obscure Sort of unknown guy and he's handing tickets out to some of the students and saying hey come see us tonight Let's do this.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_02]: This is gonna be awesome.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
- 17:43[SPEAKER_02]: Let's go
- 17:45[SPEAKER_00]: That's the kind of stuff that Creen was doing a little bit, and that's the kind of things you're starting to see deliveries do get involved with with the people, take pictures, talk to people, be personable to people, Mike Woodson was a personable, our chief of course was not personable, Creen was and Kent Sterling said that
- 18:07[SPEAKER_00]: he thinks that this is the most normal coach, Indiana has had at the hell of their best of her and when it comes to the public speaking and comes to addressing the everyday person since like Lew Watson, even before Bob Knight, he thinks this is more normal, Indiana's had a lot of time with Devisa.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good sign.
- 18:29[SPEAKER_00]: I really think it's headed in the right direction.
- 18:31[SPEAKER_00]: You could kind of just,
- 18:33[SPEAKER_00]: even just with the like the personality test, he's a more likable guy than Archie was, or of course Mike Woodson.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_00]: And what's crazy is as this basketball season goes on Mike and we talk about, especially if the wind start to rack up, we're gonna refer back to the Archie Miller air and the Mike Woodson air out.
- 18:58[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, we were in the,
- 19:00[SPEAKER_00]: depths of hell, the dark ages.
- 19:05[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Indiana's taking a step in the right direction, but I did want to say this as far as the the scrimmage goes here is that just side miles I believe it was, who's a transfer from North Florida was one of their better players on a solid
- 19:30[SPEAKER_00]: What a nickname.
- 19:32[SPEAKER_00]: From the reports that I read on Twitter, during the game, so give or take, he had been sick a majority of the week and was coughing and stuff and just visibly was sick.
- 19:48[SPEAKER_00]: And he played, he played in the inner squad, scrimmage, and went down.
- 19:54[SPEAKER_00]: with an injury and I think just because he was so fatigued and wasn't feeling that I'm not sure it was really an injury as much as it was just he he Larry just hit a wall he just crashed and they helped him off the floor and after that it happened this is early fourth quarter they decided to call it and be done is probably the best decision that probably was the plan all along.
- 20:17[SPEAKER_00]: is if someone goes down, no matter how significant it is, just call it, where we're not going to risk anyone getting hurt, we're going to do this if it gets into the second half and somebody goes down, even if it's hopefully with something just minor like that, we're just going to call this thing, not going to risk anyone getting significantly hurt in a super red and white scrimmage that we basically do every day in practice, but we're
- 20:47[SPEAKER_02]: And there's still work in their way back with some other injuries, miles has been sick, he's been in and out a little bit from drills, and I think he cramped up really bad.
- 20:57[SPEAKER_02]: I think is what I read and that's why they just pulled the plug.
- 21:00[SPEAKER_02]: So let's get through these next couple weeks, let's get some of these guys healthy.
- 21:05[SPEAKER_02]: Let's get some guys in shape and let's get ready for that, for that bailer exhibition because that should be a fun one.
- 21:16[SPEAKER_00]: just revering back to football real quick.
- 21:18[SPEAKER_00]: Let me tell you something is that we I went to a cold-skame yesterday and I went to a cold-skame yesterday against the Raiders, absolute asswarping.
- 21:30[SPEAKER_00]: In the middle of the second half is during a time out they do something on the video board
- 21:35[SPEAKER_00]: They put certain things like type of things up on the video board and the crowd cheers if it's underrated or overrated.
- 21:44[SPEAKER_00]: An example they'd put something on there would you wear socks with sandals or something like that.
- 21:50[SPEAKER_00]: And it shows underrated each year, overrated each year.
- 21:53[SPEAKER_00]: They went through the whole lesson, the last one was it said, who's your football?
- 21:58[SPEAKER_00]: Man, when I tell you that was the loudest I've ever tiered at a cold team.
- 22:03[SPEAKER_00]: I was going crazy.
- 22:04[SPEAKER_00]: Me, there were two other eye you guys with.
- 22:07[SPEAKER_00]: You were going bonkers.
- 22:09[SPEAKER_03]: We will be back on Thursday evening to preview the biggest game in IU football history.
- 22:15[SPEAKER_02]: Really?
- 22:15[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure.
- 22:18[SPEAKER_02]: My wrong.
- 22:19[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you're wrong.
- 22:21[SPEAKER_02]: Other than the college football playoff game, maybe?
- 22:23[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 22:25[SPEAKER_02]: Biggest regular season game program history.
- 22:27[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
- 22:29[SPEAKER_03]: Thanks, guys.
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