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This is like a suicide cult. Adam Curry. John C.
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Devorah. It's Thursday, July 9th, 2026. This is your award-winning
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Gilmore Nation media assassination episode 1884. This is no agenda.
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Has anyone seen a stork? Not me, but we are
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broadcasting live from the Southern District of New York. Good
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morning everybody! Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're
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all wondering who would name a kid Graham, I'm John
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C. Dvorak. Crackpot and Buzzkill. In the morning. What kid's
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name is Graham? Graham Platner. You're not over here, so
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you don't get to see this. 24/7 coverage. You said
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Graham, not Graham. You said Graham. His name is Graham.
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Not Graham. Like a Graham. It's pronounced Graham. No, it's
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Graham. Graham. Graham. Graham. Yes, if you had said Graham,
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it would have been obvious. Graham. No, it's not Graham.
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Okay, you can say what you want. Okay, well, so
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yes, I'm aware of the new cycle. I'm aware of
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it. But that's not what I'm stuck with here. You're
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stuck there is what you're stuck with. I'm stuck here,
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but I'm stuck here with. Well, like I said, it's
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coming Tuesday. So the day when we're back. The day
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we come back. The day we're back. Yes. You never
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said it was coming Tuesday, did you? Yeah, I did.
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Oh, because you know I'm coming back Monday. Well, you're
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gonna miss the baby then. Yeah, no kidding. My daughter's...
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Just stay a couple extra days. We've already been here...
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By Monday, we'll have been here for two weeks. uh
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we're running out of everything flies time flies and of
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course now you know everyone here is like Oh. Oh,
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you're from America? Stupid Trump. Try to rig the game
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with the red card. Ha! We showed you, didn't ya?
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Yeah, all day long. It's amazing. Well, I think that
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it was corrupted to begin with, and the reason that
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they did that, it had nothing to do with Trump.
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It was to make him look like he did something
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other than just make a call. Yeah, that's exactly what
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they did. But they had to put that player back.
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because these games are, as you and I know, rigged.
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These games are rigged. Rigged, yes. And they knew that
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if they left that player out... the striker that they
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red carded, then they have to listen to the whining
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Americans. Yeah. Yeah. Ha ha! You guys screwed us. Someone's
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hearing a buzz. Hold on. I thought I heard it
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too. Hold on. I'm hearing it too. Somebody's hearing a
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buzz? Yeah. There we go. I can move some wires
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around. No, no, it's not you. No, it's not you.
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It's me. It's me. That's what she said. Here's the
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clip. And he gave him a red card. I didn't
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know what that meant. Then I started hearing that that
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means he can't play in the next game, at least
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in the next game. And they say you can't. play
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that's very unfair that's you know it's one thing to
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penalize somebody for the game but how do you penalize
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them for a game that hasn't been played yet it's
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very unfair you can't do that so yes i asked
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for a review oh a review i spoke to a
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man who's i i found the source of this whole
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Trump called him, made him change it. It was the
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New York Times with four sources, unnamed, anonymous sources, familiar
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with the phone call. Highly respected. And by the way,
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whose level of respect has gone up. tenfold. And it
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was good before this started, but he really pushed it.
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in this country. I'm the one that got them to
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do it. It was not Biden. See, what people don't
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understand, and it doesn't even, I don't even have to
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try and explain it here, commies. What people don't understand
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is Trump's not talking about fair. He's talking about the
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excitement of the game. He's thinking of television. That's what
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he's thinking of. He's like, hey, we got to have
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the star players in there. You can't take the star
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players. It was great when they threw them out and
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they played with 10 guys for the rest of the
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game. That's great television. You can't have that guy not
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show up in the next game, even though it's the
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rule. That's what it was about. People don't understand him.
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We are the Trump whisperers. We understand our president. We're
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some of the last and the very few, I believe.
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Maybe. I'm not kidding. People are, they roll their eyes
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at me. They rolled their eyes. Yeah, man. That guy
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tried to cheat. I don't care what you say. It's
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useless. All right, so... If it's such a big news
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cycle that you had to start it out at the
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beginning of the show off with, do you have any
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Graham Platner clips that you want to share? I have
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a, yeah, I do have a classic that I thought
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if anyone would appreciate, it'd be you. All right. Because
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it's from the pivot. These are your buddies. Kara and
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Professor, can you turn your speakers down just a tad?
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Kara and Professor Scott, let me guess, because I've seen
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some of these come through on the timeline, where Elizabeth
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Warren is saying, that's my guy. Well, yeah, they've been
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loading these things up. I don't really have a lot
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of Platinum Eclipse. I just have... I just thought it
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would be worthwhile to play this one because it's one
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of the most extreme examples of a very biased and
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almost pathetic attitude about things. I personally, I'm going to
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just very quickly say I think voters don't care about
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this. I don't. And I thought his wife handled it
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well. I have others. I had an argument with Amanda
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this weekend. She doesn't like the Nazi tattoo. She doesn't
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like this. Really? I feel as if... Amanda doesn't like
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the Nazi tattoo. Who does? If the husband and wife
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are working it out, it reminded me a little when
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Hillary Clinton did Should I Stand By My Man when
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he had those Jennifer Flowers things. Reminds me a little
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bit of that. Turned out to be a pretty good
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president. I don't get bothered by it as much. None
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of it. I think he's, as Amanda Littman correctly said,
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he's someone who had a drinking problem as a Marine,
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probably got that tattoo, has some mental health challenges, which
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he's trying to overcome, marriage problems, which his wife is
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insisting they're going to. counselors and overcoming. That list is
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your typical Democrat. It's perfect. I mean, let's just hear
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that list again. Nazi tattoo. It's got drinking problems, relationship
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problems. Drinking problems, a Marine, probably got that tattoo. Has
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some mental health challenges, which he's trying to overcome. Marriage
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problems. Mental challenges, which he's trying to overcome. Yeah, you
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have to stop the clip and let me explain something
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that I think is important. Oh, please. Which is that
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you're right. This is the Democrats' laundry list of what
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they think the working class is. Yes, drinking problem. They
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have no connection. She has no – and the professor
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has no connection with this – you know, these Democrats
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and their working class, which they haven't represented for –
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I don't know. Since we've been doing the show. Since
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Kennedy. Since we've been doing the show. Yeah, definitely since
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we've been doing this show. They're so dissociated from the
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work. class that their imaginary working class person is what
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she's describing yes and an oyster farmer this thing from
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the truth there is an oyster farmer with a drinking
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problem a Nazi tattoo mental health issues which he's working
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on and relationship issues yes that's your voter but of
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that turned out to be a pretty good president. I
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don't get bothered by it as much. None of it.
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I think he's, as Amanda Littman correctly said, he's someone
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who had a drinking problem as a Marine, probably got
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that tattoo, has some mental health challenges, which he's trying
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to overcome, marriage problems, which his wife is insisting they're
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going to counselors and overcoming. Every election is a choice,
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not a marriage proposal. We're not hiring a priest. We're
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hiring a senator. Do you want to make sure that
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women's rights aren't continuing to be rolled back? Do you
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want a more responsible economic policy? But we're going to
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talk about fucking tattoos and sexting? You mean like you
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did about Pete's Hexeth? Okay. I mean, the obsession with
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personal purity has become a luxury belief. And folks, if
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your house is on fire, you don't ask whether the
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firefighter has problematic DMs. Are we going to continue to
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have one strike and you're out? I'm a Jew. I
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don't love a Tottenkamp. tattoo okay if he gets drunk
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one night and gets a hold on if you're a
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real jew pronounce it right tottenkopf okay tottenkopf get with
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it scott continue to have one strike and you're out
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i'm a jew i don't love a tottenkopf tattoo okay
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if he gets drunk one night and gets stupid fucking
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tattoo. The fact that he's trying to protect our liberties
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the next day and might be blown up by an
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IED. He gets a hall pass. You're right. It's Tottenkopf.
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Tottenkopf. It's Tottenkopf. It's struggle. It's Kopf. It's head. It's
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Kopf. Tottenkopf. Yeah. It's a head. Kopf. Kopf. We all
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know Kumpf. Not Kumpf. Kumpf. He's my Kumpf. I don't
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know what he's thinking. It's that way. That's great. That's
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great. But now he resigned. He withdrew. He's out. Yeah,
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he did. But one more thing about what Scott said.
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He says, are we going to continue to have women's
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rights rolled back? What? What? What?
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talking about? I don't know. I don't know. You've seen
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these, if you go to, I don't do this that
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much, but if you go to TikTok or Insta or
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one of these places that are the reels, all these
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things, and there'll be men on the street stuff where
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someone says, so what do you want to see about
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somebody being interviewed at some protest? And then they say,
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I don't want to see women's rights rolled back. And
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then the interviewer will say, which women's rights are you
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talking about? Of course, and then they freeze. And there's
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a long blank stare, and I don't know. And then
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they say, I'm not participating in this. I'm not going
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to be. They walk. I'm not going to. Yeah. Well,
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of course, then we have the actual candidates for the
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Democrat Party. This thing has been circling around, a little
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mini, mini cut. of some of these DSA, Democrat Socialists
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of America. And it's exactly what we talked about on
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the last show. This is exactly what they're doing. If
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they get elected, and these were not the candidates in
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the primary, not the candidates that Ro Khanna, what's his
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name? Ro Khanna. Don't we just call him Ro Khanna?
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Isn't that his name now? He's a Ro Khanna. Ro
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Khanna. The Ro Khanna. Ro Khanna, this is not the
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people he endorsed, but this is the people who, supposedly
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selected. And you know we have a unique responsibility to
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act from the from the heart of empire the belly
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of the beast. The most important thing that we can
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do is take that empire down from within. Our role
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ultimately is to to facilitate our own empire's failure in
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ways that we can ultimately to overthrow our own empire.
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Imperialism is U.S. imperialism is not a thing that can
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be reformed away it has to be overthrown through revolutionary
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struggle. And to build a movement that can use the
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leverage of workers to hit the kill switch on American
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imperialism here within the American Empire. Yes, from within the
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kill switch in the American empire. Yeah, these people are
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very pretentious, but did you notice how gender fluid they
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are? Oh, yeah. Yeah, certainly. I couldn't tell who was
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what there. It was just non-binary to an extreme. Well,
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so just looking at all these different factions, I caught
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a report on CNN. And it was about the Patriot
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Front on July 4th, who marched on the mall, who
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took the metro, which is the subway, to the mall.
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You know... We've looked at these guys and we're like,
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these got to be feds. This has got to be
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some kind of psyop going on. But then I'm thinking,
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hold on a second. Does this mean that Kash Patel's
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FBI or Tulsi Gabbard or Bill Pulte's intelligence operations are
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still running these guys? And it's a bit polarizing to
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me. But the thing that really caught my eye is
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as I'm listening to the opening of this report. The
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whole thing is completely framing something that is observably not
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true. This weekend, in the midst of the country's 250th
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birthday festivities, a stark and disturbing display emerged from our
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nation's capital. Stark and disturbing display. On Saturday, when mass
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members of the white supremacist group, the Patriot Front, marched
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through Washington, D.C., carrying Confederate flags and... Okay, so... I
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stopped here because carrying Confederate flags, I'm literally looking at
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the video she's showing, and there's no Confederate flag. There's
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stars and stripes, 50 stars, 13 stripes. There's about 20%
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are what I'd call the colonial flag with the 13
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stars in a circle with a picture of George. Right,
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right, which is a classic. Yeah, with a picture of
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George Washington in the circle. Not a single Confederate flag.
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That's a Confederate flag. That's how deteriorated the media has
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become. Well, possibly. But the first thing that she says
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here is the white supremacist group. And, you know, and
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so, of course, you connect white supremacy, white supremacist groups
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to patriots because they're called the Patriot Front. So that
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by itself, it's a psyop, whether it's from them or
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who knows what it is. But I'm like, I got
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to look at these guys. What is going on with
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this group? So they have a website. I'm glad you
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did this because I thought the whole thing was a
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fake. Well, so the website, patriot.us. They have an about
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page. They've got an action page. They've got a manifesto
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page. Now, this I find troubling. Like, why don't you
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just say, here's our mission? But no, they say manifesto.
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It's very long. And there's no white supremacy language in
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there per se. They hate government. They feel all politicians
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have sold out. The military-industrial complex. They hate globalism. to
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go back to what America was. They don't like, they
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want the borders closed. They don't want immigrants coming in
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from Africa. They don't talk about black people. Now, I
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don't see any black faces in this patriot front because
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they have masks on. It makes it a little harder.
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And it's a little more intimidating because they've got the
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khakis and, you know, they have kind of these uniforms
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on. But they don't really look like neo-Nazis or KKK.
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And then you look at their action. And, you know,
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their spokes guy, he talks without a mask. His name
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is known. He's quite eloquent at speaking. And then they
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go, you know, life, liberty, victory. Okay. Then you look
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at their action page, and they're, you know, doing food
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drives, feeding homeless people, building houses. So, you know, it's
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me. At least one of our No Agenda producers has
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to be in this group. There's no way that if
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really what is portrayed on this website, that we don't
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have at least one of them listening to the show.
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This is kind of my test. What if the whole
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thing is just a front for nothing? Well, this is
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my test. If we don't have a single producer... Oh,
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that's a good point. We have a million listeners and
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producers. Somebody's been to the meeting. Did we have a
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population of such... That is such, yes, you're absolutely correct.
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Unless there's somebody in there that's connected to the show.
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It's a fake. It's a phony. It's a phony. Yeah,
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just a bunch of photos. I pulled a few more
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clips. That's a good point. Well, it was really bothering
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me because I look at these guys like, I know
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guys like this. They go to my church. They help
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out. They love their country. They love their flag. They
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love their family. I don't think they're racist. You know,
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they've never shown any racial tendencies. But so the PSYOP
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certainly is working on CNN. Just a couple of clips
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because there's some interesting language that they use here. So
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whether it's phony or I mean, it certainly doesn't seem
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like the right. Something Trump would want is connecting white
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supremacy to patriots and patriotism. quote, reclaim America. Oh no!
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One photographer captured this stunning, now viral photo of a
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young black woman. sitting on a metro car while the
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masked men surround her. Now, this language is beautiful because
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these guys are on the metro. They're all taking the
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metro. No, the whole car is filled with them. They're
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not surrounding her. The picture doesn't even show her being
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surrounded. They're not looking at her. She has a great
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expression. Nobody cares about her. She has a great expression
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on her face. So then they bring in this dude
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who was also a witness, who was also on the
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train. And this is where things got funny. behave on
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the train and what sort of sense did you get
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from them on the car? They were surprisingly very civil
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and very organized. They were just chatting among themselves like
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any other people who were sitting or traveling using the
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metro. I, you know, just from what I could hear,
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many of them didn't even know each other. I could
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hear them introducing themselves to one another with their full
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names and asking where they're from and, you know, how
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they're doing. Well, that doesn't sound very scary. Come on,
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we gotta step this up a little bit because we're
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you afraid? Weren't you scary? Wait. How did this picture
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get taken of you? And you ended up in some
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photographs taken by a Getty Images photographer. A Getty Images
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photographer happens to be on the train. It's amazing. What
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did it say to you that there was a photographer
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there? That's when it alarmed me. This is something, you
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know. But the photographer also gave me some comfort knowing
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that somebody was there with a camera just in case
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something happens. Because I was realizing if anything happens, I
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won't be able to identify any of them because they're
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all dressed the same. So it made me realize and
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start paying attention. What are they wearing? on their hats,
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what's on their shirts, just to give me an educated
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idea who they were. And I was texting some friends,
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you know, this is happening. I just want you to
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be aware that I'm in the middle of a metro
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by myself. So if anything happens, you know. No, you
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weren't. You were with the black girl. What are you
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talking about? You weren't by yourself. I'm in the middle
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of a metro by myself. So if anything happens, you
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know what's happening. Do you have any thought as you're
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on the train as to who they might be? Like
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what's, you know, I know you said you didn't know
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who they were, but what were you speculating when you
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see a bunch of white guys with masks and hats.
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Clearly they needed to cover their faces for a reason,
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right?
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My mind immediately went to that they were white supremacists.
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So, and, you know, I work for the U.S. Capitol
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Historical Society. Oh, there we go. So my first thing
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is... I need to remember this and try to document
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of what's happening. I'm not comparing myself clearly to real
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American heroes like Rosa Parks and folks who sat in
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at diners in the 50s and 60s. I knew this
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was a moment that I have to kind of be
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present. This was a moment. This is a psyop of
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epic proportions. I just want to know who and why
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and what's behind it. That's all I want to know.
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Again, if we don't have a single person in our
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audience who has at least been to a meeting. then
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this is fake. and it's fake from the left. There's
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just no two ways about it. Yeah, fake from the
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left. Yeah, this could be a Soros thing or a
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Southern Poverty Law Center thing. The thing that is bothersome
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is the mask. Why the masks? Yeah, there's no reason
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for the mask. There's no reason for that. They don't
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do that. It's the other side that's always mask-oriented with
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the Palestinian scarf across their face. That's the tell right
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there. Oh, you're wearing a mask. There you go. There
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you go. I was just like, nah, I don't know
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about this. The whole thing just kind of bothered me.
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So I wanted to get that out. And please, if
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you've been to a meeting, let us know. And if
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nobody has been to me, there's nobody. I mean, this
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might maybe Aaron or over at Knowage in the social.
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He might be the kind of guy, but they're not
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even that anti-Jew, you know, at least not that I
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can tell. Not in their manifest. So, which is another
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thing. If you and I were going to do a
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group. Yes, absolutely. You nailed it. By the way, that's
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a great observation. Yeah, we wouldn't. You don't use manifesto.
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No, we're not going to do that. Ever. Ever. No,
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it's mission statement or what, you know, EULA. I mean,
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anything. EULA. So, no. But I think we all were...
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considering them to be feds of some sort. And now
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I'm just not so sure. Now it seems to be
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from some other organization. They look cool though. And that's
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not to say that the black girl wasn't afraid. cool
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black girl she might have been afraid like oh what
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is this what's going on but you know i seem
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pretty nonchalant if you ask me but a getty images
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photographer happens to be there well that's yeah that's because
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somewhat misleading because anybody can be images yeah it's true
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yeah it's once you sign up with them it's basically
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you You take a lot of photos. It's like paparazzi.
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You take a lot of photos, but you've done a
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contract deal with them, so if you have any photos
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that are of national interest, you have to sell it
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to them as opposed to the competition. Yeah. Which is
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Corbis, whoever it is. No big deal. Corvus. That day,
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I think that's exaggerated. Corbus? There's other groups. Yeah, it's
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that group that Microsoft ran. created i can't remember their
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name it's like corbus or something stupid was that part
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of their uh Encyclopedia. What was their encyclopedia? Their CD-ROM
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encyclopedia. Yeah, the... Encarta? Encarta? And Cardi. It was a
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good idea at the time. Yeah, at the time. When
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there was no internet and everything was on CD-ROM. Yes.
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CD Interactive. CDI. Yeah, baby. Back in the day. CDI
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went nowhere. Back in the day. So just to wrap
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it up. Yeah, I agree. The only people who wear
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masks... or Antifa. The Palestinian protesters, it's all crazy from
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left people. And the Southern Poverty Law Center has deemed
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them a white supremacist hate group. That right there tells
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you something. Yeah. Anyway, let's get guys. Let's get to
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the top of the news with what's really happening. Tonight,
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as the U.S. launches a new attack on Iran, the
24:05
second in 24 hours, President Trump now declaring the ceasefire
24:10
over. I think it's over. I don't want to deal
24:12
with them anymore. They're scum. You know what scum is?
24:15
There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. The new U.S.
24:18
shrinks hitting Iran's... coastal radar sites and anti-ship missile locations.
24:24
A larger attack than last night when 80 targets were
24:27
hit. in response to Iran firing on three cargo ships
24:32
near the Strait of Hormuz. The big question: What comes
24:36
next? Overnight, Iran launching missiles at U.S. bases Those missiles
24:41
intercepted. The Pentagon releasing video of more than 20 Navy
24:44
warships patrolling waters near the Middle East. President Trump today
24:48
sending mixed signals. First saying he would let peace talks
24:52
continue, then a few hours later saying this. I'm not
24:55
sure I want to make a deal with him. We
24:57
can play games, but I'm not sure I want to
24:58
make a deal with him. Make a deal, I just
25:00
finished the job. And tonight, the calm has been shattered
25:03
in the oil market. Gas prices for Americans set to
25:06
go up. The president asks, are we about to see
25:09
full-blown war again? I don't think it's going to start
25:12
again. I think it's going to go very quickly. No,
25:16
hold on a second. Did you see this? structure of
25:19
the way they presented that? Explain. It's structured as though
25:23
they were going to see full-blown war and then they
25:25
cut to him saying, no, I don't think so. Yeah.
25:29
Okay. And you're surprised by this? This is ABC. No,
25:32
this is what we do on this show, if you
25:34
haven't noticed. We point this out. Shattered in the oil
25:38
markets. Gas prices for Americans set to go up. The
25:42
president asks, are we about to see full-blown war again?
25:45
I don't think it's going to start again. I think
25:47
it's going to go very quickly. They hit a couple
25:51
of ships, and so we hit them much harder. When
25:53
they hit, we hit. with Iran right now and the
25:59
surging oil prices already. There are also questions about this
26:11
new Air Force One, that gift from Qatar, and why
26:14
it left Turkey tonight without the president. David, the president
26:19
has been touting this new plane, so it was surprising
26:21
when that Qatari jet left without him and headed toward
26:25
the UK. The president said it was to give troops
26:27
stationed there an opportunity to view the plane, but tonight
26:30
it is raising new questions about whether security concerns played
26:34
a factor. The president later departed Turkey on an older
26:37
model of Air Force One. Yeah, so before we move
26:40
on, I just got to play this clip because he
26:43
did play it down. Like, oh, no, you know, the
26:45
plane had to go over there and we had to
26:47
do something else and the troops had to look at
26:49
the new plane. But this was the killer for me.
26:52
In one day, all of their anti-aircraft things are gone.
26:56
That doesn't mean they're not going to get a plane.
26:58
But all of it's gone. Everything's gone. The leaders are
27:03
gone. They had leaders, they're gone. And they had another
27:06
set of leaders, they're gone. Now they have another set
27:08
of leaders, they may be gone. Who knows? And you
27:12
know what? I may be gone too because I'm their
27:15
number one target. It's out all over the place. I'm
27:18
their number one because they're... That's the way they act
27:20
and that's the way they've done it for 47 years.
27:23
No, I'm number one on the kill list for... Iran.
27:27
They're lovely people. I'm number one. So I don't know.
27:29
I can't tell you that. But I don't really care
27:32
because I'm doing my job and I'm doing it, I
27:34
hope, better than anybody's ever done it because we have
27:37
a country that's hot. and really, really successful. But I
27:41
mention it only because it's on the list. I mean,
27:44
it came out, there was another list came out yesterday,
27:46
and I'm number one on, I like being number one
27:49
on TikTok better, but I'm number one on the list
27:54
for killing. Now, unfortunately, I have to say, every single
27:57
time... I have known a politician or heard a politician
28:01
say, yeah, they're going to, you know, they want to
28:03
kill me. It has happened. I'll never forget Pim Fortuyn
28:08
saying, if something happens to me, those guys did it.
28:11
And then he got killed. Yeah, well let's hope that
28:14
doesn't happen. No, that would suck. But you should be
28:16
cautious enough to send off this. The one jet, let
28:19
that one get blowed up. Yeah, really. It's like, you
28:22
know, a little switcheroo on the jet. So we had
28:25
dinner with... We don't even know he was on the
28:27
other Air Force. He could have been on Air Force
28:28
Two for all we know. It didn't look like it.
28:30
I'll be the first, because he came out for a
28:32
gaggle. And it was not the old Air Force One
28:37
that he typically travels on. Because I could tell by
28:40
the... They didn't have the screens in the side panel
28:44
like it usually does. So it was not his typical
28:49
Air Force one. Yeah, well, if you're going to the
28:51
Middle East and you're Trump. Yeah. You're not going to
28:56
be flying around like, hey, here I am. Fire me.
28:58
Take a shot. - Yeah. So we had dinner with
29:03
Lex. I have a couple of them. I want to
29:05
give you a little update. We had a dinner with
29:07
Lex and Fariba. Oh, okay. His Iranian wife. he told
29:12
man he told the story about them getting married it
29:14
cracks me up every single time because they wanted to
29:18
stay in the same hotel. This is like 16 years
29:22
ago. And so in order to do that, you have
29:25
to be married by an imam. So he's a Muslim.
29:30
He had to become a Muslim first. Then he got
29:32
like a stamp and he's got a passport and he's
29:35
a Muslim. Anyway. So, and I said, you better not
29:38
leave that. You better stay a muscle. because that's not
29:40
a good idea. So she's back talking to her family.
29:43
The Internet's open. The lines are open. Um, Everybody is
29:48
back to business, although back to business means her family
29:52
is selling ground coffee. uh this this there's not a
29:56
lot of commerce per se But the general
30:00
The feeling is that Trump is working with the Iranians
30:04
together, and together they're going to get rid of the
30:08
IRGC, or at least they're going to try to, which
30:11
the Iranians feel is rather complicated because they have such
30:14
deep connections inside the country. Everyone's on the take from
30:18
those guys. So they feel that there's maybe too many
30:22
of them. But that's who's popping stuff off. It's the
30:25
IRGC. It's not the people that... Yeah, and it's dissociated.
30:30
They're completely dissociated. So some rogue, anybody can take a
30:33
pot shot and, hey, I'm going to do it. Yeah,
30:35
exactly. There's no coordination at all. No. So they're hopeful
30:40
and they actually have more trust in Trump than I
30:44
would have expected. I think that he's working with them
30:46
with the third level. And... you know they're like why
30:52
is pop so the what's his name reza pavli the
30:56
the crown prince He's in Holland right now. How weird
31:04
is that? You should go try to track him down.
31:08
No, I don't think so. I'm not going to do
31:10
that. Let's listen to these clips from the NPR and
31:13
the BBC trying to summarize this. Okay. Start with NPR.
31:18
I'm looking, I see Al Jazeera. Iran bombing NPR. I'm
31:24
sorry, I didn't see that one. The U.S. military says
31:27
it's carrying out another round of strikes on Iran after
31:30
Iran attacked ships in the Strait of Hormuz earlier this
31:33
week and retaliated for U.S. strikes last night. Earlier today,
31:37
President Trump said Iranian attacks signaled the... end of the
31:40
ceasefire, as NPR's Franco Ordonez explains. Trump not only warned
31:44
that the U.S. would likely hit Iran again, but he
31:47
also threatened to bring back a naval blockade. I mean,
31:50
he is clearly frustrated after last night's series of strikes,
31:54
and he really went off on Iranian leaders, calling them
31:57
cuckoo and a bunch of liars. I don't want to
32:00
deal with them anymore. They're scum. You know what scum
32:02
is? They're scum. They're sick people. They're led by sick
32:05
people. and they're vicious violent people now the big question
32:10
is whether calling off the ceasefire is actually a change
32:13
in policy or simply a negotiating tactic but trump did
32:18
say during the press conference that this would not lead
32:20
to full-scale fighting again and that anything that happened would
32:24
be over quickly. Mm-hmm. I like the, you know, we've
32:31
talked about this before some time ago, about the pronunciation
32:34
of Iran. Yes. We got a lecture from somebody who
32:38
told us how to pronounce it correctly. But it's still
32:41
being pronounced Iran. It's definitely Iran. We know for a
32:45
fact it's ear-on, ear-on. Your ear is on, ear-on. And
32:51
PBS or NPR there has gotten it correctly. Yeah. But
32:56
you'll hear, it's almost like there's a code involved. Well,
32:59
didn't. People who miss. pronounce it didn't we establish didn't
33:02
we establish that people who were read in pronounced at
33:05
iran and everyone else who doesn't pronounce it iran is
33:08
not read in That's what I recall. I think that
33:11
was one of our interpretations. Possibly, yeah. Well, here's the
33:16
BBC. Several Gulf nations have responded to Iranian... Holy... crap
33:21
that's over modulated again so iran iranian yeah see now
33:26
they're pronouncing it differently now okay now we can play
33:30
it I want to play it. Yeah, let me stop
33:32
about the over-modulation. Okay. Okay, I've had, I don't know
33:37
what it is. about the BBC. but there's something wrong
33:42
with their waveform and their loops their loops are not
33:47
good I'm telling you, there's something wrong with their waveform
33:51
and I can't... Because when I'm... Playing with these clips,
33:56
I'm not getting any of this, any of this over
33:59
modulation. But every time you play it. through your system,
34:02
it comes out. I'm not sure what to do about
34:06
it. I will do a spectral analysis after the show
34:10
and figure it out. It could very well be that
34:12
there's something going on in their processing that is hitting
34:15
my processing in an odd way. I'm looking at the
34:17
waveform. It doesn't look flat or anything. This is very
34:21
technical, everybody. I'm glad you're listening in. Several Gulf nations
34:25
have responded to Iranian attacks after the U.S. launched new
34:29
airstrikes against Iran, including near the Strait of Hormuz. Explosions
34:34
were reported in the Bahraini capital, Manama, while in Kuwait,
34:38
the military said its air defenses had intercepted... First of
34:42
all, this guy has a wheelbarrow for those balls, man.
34:46
That's amazing, that voice. Yeah, it's unbelievable, this character. That's
34:58
crazy. has more from Washington. Donald Trump is returning to
35:04
Washington. Now, he has been speaking on Air Force One,
35:08
where he said, amongst other things, we've just hit them
35:11
very hard. And I say we hit them 20 to
35:14
one. He added that every time they hit us, we're
35:17
going to hit them 20, as he put it. And
35:20
he also. claimed that Iran had called a little while
35:23
ago saying that they wanted to make a deal badly.
35:26
He said, I just don't know if they're worthy of
35:29
making a deal. Our international editor Jeremy Bowen has this
35:33
analysis of the latest developments. What is driving all of
35:37
this is the fact that the Iranian regime in Tehran
35:40
have a head of a weapon in being able to
35:43
close the Strait of Hormuz. They can put the global
35:45
economy in days in a chokehold. So that's where we're
35:48
at. So I think what we're going to see is
35:50
a lot of these ups and downs, probably more escalations,
35:53
more oscillations, some more talks. Sources very adjacent to the
35:58
talks have said to me that... Neither side is trying
36:01
to walk away from the talks, but equally is taking
36:05
quote, a lot of heavy lifting to try to get
36:07
them back. to talking. I'm so sick of this. They
36:11
closed the street before Moose. They didn't close anything. There's
36:15
not a row of IRGC Paddle boats blocking the straight.
36:21
This language has got to stop. you know I want
36:27
to play the CBS version of this, of the report.
36:30
of the scum liars and cheats report because at the
36:33
end there was something There's something odd and different. The
36:37
president said today that even though the ceasefire is over,
36:40
the nuclear talks between the two... But with each side
36:43
trading airstrikes and insults, it's pretty difficult to understand the
36:48
way forward. There's scum. So we don't like him? I
36:55
don't like him? They're evil people. President Trump unleashed on
36:59
Iran for attacking three commercial... tankers in the Strait of
37:02
Hormuz this week. They're liars, they're cheats, they're sick people.
37:07
Just last month, Trump called Iran's leaders very rational people.
37:11
But tonight, he's ordered more airstrikes along the Strait of
37:13
Hormuz. which follows a heavy bombing campaign Tuesday night, when
37:18
U.S. forces hit about 80 targets inside Iran, including its
37:21
main naval base and dozens of small boats. Iran says
37:26
it responded by firing missiles and drones at 85 military
37:30
targets inside Bahrain and Kuwait. The volleys the most significant
37:35
since the U.S. and Iran signed a memo of understanding
37:37
about three weeks ago. But the president said. Iran's actions
37:42
have killed the deal. There's something wrong with them. They're
37:45
cuckoo. As far as I'm concerned, it's over. Oil prices
37:49
spiked on that news, part of the reason why by
37:51
the end of today, the president was trying to turn
37:54
down the temperature. I think anything that happens is going
37:57
to be over very quickly. And we'll only... And will
38:00
only make it safer, including for oil. Also at the
38:04
NATO summit, the president met with Vladimir Zelensky and announced
38:07
plans to let Ukraine start building Patriot missiles. But he
38:10
also broached a three-way meeting with Russia's Vladimir Putin. I
38:14
don't know that he'd go to Moscow. Maybe he would.
38:16
Would you go to Moscow? It's difficult. There are a
38:19
lot of Ukrainian drones to the earth. Leaders here at
38:22
the summit said their host, Turkish President Erdogan, gifted them
38:26
all personalized revolvers and a box of ammunition. The White
38:29
House didn't confirm Trump's gift, but the British prime minister
38:32
said he had to leave his here because it would
38:34
be illegal to bring it home. That's the weird part.
38:38
What's up with that? They all gave him pistols with-
38:41
With ammo? What, to shoot yourself? I thought that was
38:45
very strange. It's a strange gift. I had not heard
38:47
that. That was a good catch. That's a strange gift.
38:51
That is a strange gift. They gave him gold-plated pistols
38:56
with one bullet in the chamber. Hint, hint. And a
39:00
hairpin trigger. So what I feel is going on here
39:05
is good cop, bad cop. It seems so obvious. Because
39:10
this is from his, he did a lot of press,
39:12
or at least a lot of clips came out of
39:14
his press in... In Turkey at the NATO summit. Yeah,
39:19
some NATO clips. This is... This is where I think
39:23
this is the one where he's basically good cop, bad
39:26
cop. Let those guys go be good cops. I'm going
39:28
to be the bad cop. Do you have any questions?
39:30
Is the ceasefire over? Is the ceasefire done? Is the
39:34
MOU dead? That's a very interesting question. That's not an
39:40
interesting question. I think it's over. I don't want to
39:44
deal with them anymore. They're scum. You know what scum
39:46
is? They're scum. They're sick people. They're led by sick
39:50
people. This is the full quote, which I think was
39:52
more interesting than what the news just cherry-picked. And they're
39:56
vicious, violent people. And if they had a nuclear war...
40:00
weapon they'd use it. As far as I'm concerned, it's
40:02
over. I'll speak to our negotiators. They want to negotiate.
40:05
They're good people. Steve Whitcuff, Jared Kushner, but they have
40:10
to come back to me. As far as I'm concerned,
40:12
it's just a waste of time dealing with them. They're
40:15
liars. We make a deal. That to me. First of
40:19
all, they didn't put any of that in any of
40:21
the news reports. Nothing about the nuclear nuclear bomb. I
40:24
don't know why. And then he says, well, you know,
40:27
those guys, they get to continue to talk, you know,
40:29
Jared and Witkoff and they can come back to me,
40:33
but I'm not going to talk to him. That is
40:35
like so textbook. Good cop, bad cop. If I make
40:39
a deal with him, we have a deal. And he
40:41
goes out, he talks. We make a deal. Everyone's agreed.
40:44
No nuclear weapon. We make a deal. They go outside,
40:47
talk to the press, they say, we never even talked
40:49
about it. There's something wrong with them. They're cuckoo. As
40:54
far as I'm concerned, it's over. after we get through
41:01
the funeral proceedings. Does this mean that talks with Iran
41:04
will not resume? I don't care. They can talk. But
41:06
I think they're wasting their time. They're a bunch of
41:08
lying guys. My whole life, that's all I do is
41:11
deals. My whole life, that's how I became president, I
41:14
guess. That's a deal too, right? But I made a
41:17
lot of money. I had a lot of great success.
41:19
Now, tremendous success. Everything I did, I was successful. And
41:23
I deal with these guys, and I say, this is
41:24
from a different school. They're liars. They're cheats. They're sick
41:30
people. They've hurt their people. They killed 54,000 people as
41:34
of now that were protesting. You know, when people say,
41:38
how come they haven't taken over? They can't take over
41:40
because they're dead. They killed them. Nobody's going to take
41:44
over. They have no guns. And the other side has
41:46
machine guns. And they're killing them. The press doesn't report
41:49
it. But they're bad people. They're bad people. Something tells
41:54
me this was not unexpected for them, that this would
41:56
happen. And there's some there's some game afoot here actually
42:01
that entire clip which was a good clip Um... I'm
42:07
thinking whether it's worthy of a borderline. That entire clip,
42:11
if the news media had played that in its entirety
42:14
instead of these kind of cute clips of, oh, they're
42:18
scum. Yeah. And then just leave it at that. Yeah.
42:22
Out of context. So? The public would be serviced so
42:27
much better. or served so much better by them being
42:32
more honest with their clipping. Their clipping is terrible. And
42:36
what's the verdict? But the media sucks? No, you said
42:41
borderline. You were contemplating a borderline. Oh, you want it,
42:45
don't ya? Well, you can't, like, dangle it in front
42:47
of me and then say, "Well, I'm thinking about it,"
42:50
but then... Okay, give yourself a borderline. Alright. ♪ Borderline
42:54
♪ ♪ Flip of the day ♪ Wow. Hey, man.
42:58
It was almost worthy of a borderline. Oh, okay. All
43:02
right. You got your borderline. I couldn't give you a
43:06
clip of the day. No, you haven't given me one
43:08
of those in months. That's not true. Uh, be careful.
43:14
It's not true. Okay. Okay. No, that's... But the point
43:18
I was making was... Why don't we get, why doesn't
43:21
the media give us that? And it's all out there.
43:24
And NPR could have done that. BBC could have done
43:26
that. That clip was what, how long was that clip?
43:28
What was the total time? Total time is, let me
43:32
see. Uhhhh... 155. It's under two minutes of clippage. Yeah,
43:41
clippage. Clippage, as we call it. Well under what we
43:44
consider the two-minute limit. The two-minute limit. Nothing can go
43:50
past. If it's past two minutes, it's got to be
43:52
really good. Well, no, if it's past two minutes, you
43:55
or I, but one of the two of us, complain.
43:58
Now, I know you have analysis. It's too long. I
44:03
know you have analysis. I just have two more clips
44:07
to play because Stunningly, stunningly, Look who comes out of
44:15
nowhere and appears on Jake Tapper's show. What woman, what...
44:19
Analysts, do you think would just pop out all of
44:22
a sudden? Who? Vicki Newland. Oh my God. This morning,
44:31
President Trump said that as far as he's concerned, the
44:33
ceasefire is over and now we see these new strikes.
44:36
So is this an end to the ceasefire or is...
44:39
it possible that this is just a negotiating tactic and
44:42
the ceasefire is still officially on? Jake, it's good to
44:47
be with you. I don't think that the United States
44:49
and President Trump ever had a true agreement with Iran.
44:53
What Iran thinks it got out of this ceasefire was
44:56
the ability to control the Straits of Hormuz. exact tolls
45:00
and other tribute from ships going through it. And when
45:05
we tried to pass ships on the Omani side or
45:08
without paying, the Iranians attacked. So we never really had
45:12
a deal, and it's not a surprise that it's breaking
45:14
down. I think the question is what the president is
45:17
willing to do to enforce it and to keep... the
45:19
straits open and to set this free navigation standard for
45:24
the world. Before these strikes started, Trump said he did
45:28
not think an end to the ceasefire would mean a
45:30
return to full-scale war. Is it going to be that
45:33
simple? I mean, it seems like we've been involved in
45:37
a full-scale war for quite some time. time even during
45:40
this so-called ceasefire and by the way a war that
45:43
we are losing jake uh as i said the president
45:47
has never gotten us back to the status quo ante
45:51
which was a straight of hormuz that was open to
45:53
navigation without fees or tolls and that iran did not
45:57
control You know, the Iran has been testing this all
46:00
the way through. And frankly, this war that we started
46:03
has left us in a far worse position than we
46:05
were in before. I can only think she's mad that
46:08
she wasn't involved in this war. I mean, she likes
46:10
this. This is what she does. She sparks wars. She
46:13
hands out doughnuts. Let's get it going, boys. And then
46:17
in this. Yet another! ...piece of audio that you didn't
46:21
hear much of. I was asked why he's been apparently
46:25
unable to end the Iran war, and after claiming that
46:28
the U.S. was doing so well, he said this. Take
46:30
a listen. They're dealing with very fine people. What? What?
46:36
Come on. That's like a shoo-in for the M5M. I
46:41
couldn't understand it. He says we're dealing with very fine
46:44
people. That's a beauty. Oh, I missed it. I couldn't
46:48
hear it. That's a beauty. That's because of the stupid
46:50
sound effect they throw in. They're dealing with very fine
46:53
people. Oh, come on, man. That's a shit. Yeah, that
46:56
would admit you right. If you and I were running
46:58
CNN, we'd be throwing out the very fine people on
47:01
both sides' clip immediately. Absolutely. What a misser. They're dealing
47:06
with Steve Woodcuff, and they're dealing with Jared Kushner and
47:09
J.D. Vance, and they're dealing with Marco and Scott. They're
47:13
dealing with great people, but I don't know. I think...
47:17
They're a little loco, they're a little crazy. What's your
47:20
read on what's going wrong with the Trump administration's efforts
47:24
to end the war? And do you think that the
47:26
Iranian leaders... I don't know if I would say loco
47:29
or crazy, but they believe in some pretty extreme theological
47:34
beliefs. And is it possible... Did he say Iranian people
47:39
or Iranian leaders? The Iranian leaders. Oh, leaders, okay. I
47:42
don't know if I would say loco or crazy, but
47:44
they are, I mean, they believe in some pretty extreme
47:48
theological beliefs. And is it possible you can't negotiate with
47:53
them? Well, as you know, we did negotiate with them
47:56
in the Obama administration. And we had a deal that
47:59
we sent them money wasn't as broad and as strong
48:02
as some of us would have liked, but nonetheless put
48:05
a cap on the Iranian nuclear program. And President Trump
48:09
ripped that up in his first term. We were trying
48:12
to get back to that. And President Trump himself in
48:16
the second term was. trying to negotiate with frankly an
48:19
Iranian leader who had once before reached an agreement with
48:23
the United States. Instead we bumped him off and now
48:26
we have a far more extreme set of leaders who
48:29
have to prove themselves to each other. And frankly if
48:34
we're not willing to exact more pain on the Iranians,
48:36
I mean we... as part of this deal immediately sanction
48:40
uh relieved sanction pressure on them and allow them to
48:43
sell oil again and to make money um why should
48:47
they come to the table why should they agree to
48:49
anything well of course whose side is she on i'm
48:53
not sure i'm not sure sounds like she's on the
48:56
other side Of course, Scott Besson immediately forbid them from
49:01
selling oil. We've got, oh, no sanctions. And it's not
49:04
just strikes going back and forth, is it? The U.S.
49:06
has also reimposed oil sanctions on Iran. Yes, the U.S.'
49:10
's initial response when we heard about this really just
49:13
before those later strikes was to revoke a license which
49:16
temporarily... lifted some sanctions on Iran as part of the
49:21
memorandum of understanding. Take that, Vicky Newland. Into the cessation
49:25
of hostilities. That's when these sanctions were first brought into
49:29
effect. But the sanctions waiver had allowed the Islamic Republic
49:33
to produce, sell and deliver oil. So it was a
49:37
key. part of the process to get to the next
49:39
stage of the negotiations between the U.S. and Iran with
49:44
the big issues, nuclear weapons, still to be resolved. Yeah,
49:48
and also from Fariba, it was very clear that no
49:53
one has really been hurt in Iran. You know, the
49:56
population is okay. And there's still more.
50:00
jobs in Amsterdam than there are in Tehran. and they're
50:05
actually building new right yeah oh the students don't wear
50:08
them oh that's over It really, I think the people.
50:14
have shown the political leadership what they want. And I,
50:19
I, I think the political... You're talking about in Iran.
50:21
In Iran, yeah. And I think that... But meanwhile, in
50:24
Amsterdam, they're wearing the hijabs all over the place. Oh,
50:27
that's the Red-Green Alliance. This is the place. This is
50:30
where the Muslims literally are running the cities. everywhere. It's
50:38
over here. It's over. That's, uh, it's over. But in
50:45
Tehran... It's the IRGC, or as Trump says, the IRGJ.
50:51
It's the Imperial Revolutionary Guard of Japan. Thank you. He
50:57
does himself no favors with that. Some people come to
51:00
me, "Hey man, your guy is no good. He's demented.
51:04
He's got Alzheimer's. He's cheating at soccer." Yeah, well, we
51:10
all make mistakes. That was a doozy, though. That was
51:15
quite the doozy. Oh, man. He's been making a few.
51:20
those now and again, but he's always done that. Well,
51:23
let's go to some, let's do some overview stuff with,
51:26
uh, you got some, uh, analysis, anal clips. Well, first
51:30
of all, let's start with these Al Jazeera clips. Okay.
51:34
Trump-NATO overview. NATO summit in Ankara has ended with new
51:39
pledges of support. Ukraine and defense spending but divisions remain
51:43
over wider security challenges including Iran and Turkey's defense ambitions.
51:49
Sen. Kostiolu reports from Ankara. US President Donald Trump who
51:53
used the final hours of the NATO summit in Ankara
51:56
with a new promise on Ukraine. The US will license
51:59
Patriot missile production, giving Kiev another boost to its air
52:03
defenses. It was the clearest announcement from a summit that
52:08
also delivered something many allies had been looking for, Trump's
52:12
renewed commitment to NATO. We're going to give a license
52:15
to you to make... Patriots, that's pretty cool, right? This
52:19
way you can't complain that we're not giving them enough.
52:22
Make them yourself. Trump said he believes Russia and Ukraine
52:26
are... I love that. What did he say? He gives
52:28
a license. We're giving you a license to make that
52:31
paper. Make it yourself. You want missiles? Here. Here's a
52:34
license. Here's a blueprint. Make them yourself. Well, actually, I...
52:39
I looked into that. The way it goes is they
52:43
have to have a subsidiary of, who makes them? Northrop?
52:48
I'm not sure who makes them. No, no, I think
52:50
it's Raytheon. So they get the license to do it,
52:56
but the license goes to a joint venture company. that
53:00
is co-owned and co-operated by the manufacturer here in America.
53:04
Yeah, you want that. Otherwise, it's just still the design.
53:08
Of course. So the license is, you know, it's not
53:12
like, you know, sign here and you're good to go.
53:16
Yeah, true, but it's still a license. They still get
53:19
to make it. Yes, but with our people in the
53:23
room. Yeah, to make sure there's no steel to the
53:26
side. Yeah, sure. It takes a bit to get that
53:28
all going, so that's not going to be done for
53:30
a while. I would predict that the war will be
53:35
over before they actually make one missile. Oh, I'll take...
53:40
that bet because I got I got some other clips
53:42
after we go through these of yours Patriots that's pretty
53:45
cool this way you can't complain that we're not giving
53:49
them enough it's a make him yourself Trump said he
53:52
believes Russia and Ukraine are moving closer to negotiations leaders
53:57
also back their political commitments with money pledging nearly $80
54:01
billion in military support for Ukraine next year, with a
54:05
matching commitment for 2027 while announcing more than $50 billion
54:10
in new NATO's defense procurements. But the summit was also
54:14
shaped by tensions with Iran. Trump insisted the exchange of
54:18
attacks would not spiral into a wider conflict. I don't
54:22
think so. I think anything that happens is going to
54:25
be over very quickly. And we'll only make it safer,
54:29
including for oil. Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan is hoping
54:34
it helps secure the F-35 jets Ankara paid for and
54:38
a path back into the program. Regarding the F-35s, Mr.
54:45
Trump actually has a positive approach towards Turkey. God willing,
54:49
when the F-35s are delivered to Turkey, the whole world
54:53
will say that America kept its promise. Hmm. They won't.
54:59
Probably not. The whole world's not going to say anything.
55:01
thing no i don't think so either who cares about
55:03
it you know i mean i don't even know why
55:05
this well there's something going on with those f-35s but
55:08
yeah let's skip to uh the more kind of the
55:14
kind of the issues that were going on with Trump.
55:17
condemning NATO and trying to get out some of these
55:20
other things at least as Thank you, Richard. The NATO
55:28
summit is winding down after a bumpy two days of
55:30
high-stakes diplomatic meetings in Ankara. Since Trump took office again
55:34
last year, tension has only grown over Ukraine, over Iran,
55:39
Arctic security, and President Trump's... highly transactional view of global
55:43
alliances. One of the presidents of a big country stood
55:46
up and said, well, sir, if we don't pay and
55:49
we're attacked by Russia, will you protect us? I said,
55:53
you didn't pay? You're delinquent? He said, yes. Let's say
55:57
that happened. No, I would not protect you. In fact,
56:00
I would encourage... You gotta pay. You gotta pay your
56:05
bills. I think it's common sense, right? If they don't
56:08
pay, I'm not gonna defend them. No, I'm not gonna
56:10
defend them. I got into a lot of heat when
56:12
I said that. You said, oh, he's violating NATO. We're
56:15
defending the Strait for everybody else. And then in the
56:18
case of NATO... They don't want to help us defend
56:22
the Strait and they're the ones that need it. We're
56:25
very disappointed with NATO. Because NATO has done absolutely nothing.
56:30
I said 25 years ago that NATO is a paper
56:33
tiger, but more importantly that we'll come to their rescue,
56:37
but they will never come to ours. We were disappointed
56:40
with the UK. We're disappointed with Germany and France. We're
56:43
disappointed with... Most of them, I just want loyalty. You
56:47
know, we're so loyal to them. We're always fighting for
56:50
them. We have thousands of troops all over Europe. In
56:54
Germany, we have 50,000 troops. And then you want a
56:56
little, give us a little nudge, give us a little
56:59
kiss. We don't want much. Since taking office, NATO's Secretary
57:02
General Mark Rutte has set to work trying to keep
57:06
Trump engaged with the alliance with an unabashed charm offensive.
57:09
He recently headed into the Oval Office armed with large
57:12
charts crediting the president for a massive spike in spending
57:15
by NATO allies. But despite the relentless praise from Rutte,
57:20
the existential question remains. Can America's allies successfully repair and
57:24
maintain ties with this Trump administration while still preserving their
57:29
own independence on the world stage? I can't believe they
57:32
didn't play a soundbite of Ritter. That guy is television
57:35
gold. I don't know. This LG Zero. I got it.
57:39
So the one thing that's always... left kind of left
57:42
out. Is there one of the reasons Trump's so irked?
57:45
is that during this Iranian incursion. you know they had
57:51
their couple of aircraft carriers and they wanted to Refuel
57:56
them like in Spain. some other ports, and the Spanish.
58:01
No, we don't want to see that aircraft carrier here
58:04
anywhere around here. Do you have the Spain bit? Well,
58:08
this is old. I mean, this was like at the
58:10
very beginning. No, no, no. But do you have the
58:11
bit from the press conference about Spain? Oh, let me
58:15
play it for you. Yeah, play it. This is fantastic.
58:18
I spoke to Germany, I spoke to France. Because this...
58:21
This part was in your Al Jazeera piece, but not
58:23
the Spain bit. Again, a disservice. Yeah, I don't get
58:26
it. A disservice to their viewers. I spoke to Germany,
58:29
I spoke to France, I spoke to... UK, spoke to
58:34
Italy, I spoke to, I didn't speak to Spain. Spain
58:37
is a wasted cause. We don't want to do any
58:40
trade business with them. Spain anymore, by the way. I'd
58:41
like you to cut her up. Spain is a... A
58:45
terrible partner in NATO. They don't participate, they don't pay.
58:50
I don't want anything to do with Spain. Cut off
58:53
all trade with Spain, please. Please. Including visits. Nothing. Okay,
58:58
we don't want anything to do. Watch them. come running
59:01
back. They'll come running back. They treat this man terribly.
59:06
This man's a good man, too. Great man. Great man.
59:09
They're lucky they have him. But Spain doesn't agree to
59:13
anything. And you shouldn't carry him. I mean, you sort
59:16
of automatically carry him because you're protecting an area. So
59:19
they're there. So they probably figured they have to. to
59:21
protect us, right? But we don't have to. We don't
59:24
have to trade with them. I don't want to do
59:25
any more trade with them. All right? Immediately. Don't even
59:29
talk to them. They're hopeless. They're bad people because, you
59:33
know, they have everybody else going and paying and working.
59:37
Spain, in particular Spain. There are a couple of others,
59:39
but in particular Spain. Spain. They're open about it. They're
59:42
hostile about it. And let's see a hustle. They remain
59:47
when they call up and they please, please, we want
59:49
to trade with you, sir. We want to trade with
59:51
you, sir. They make so much money with us and
59:54
we're going to see that they make a lot less.
59:57
I want no business with them. I just like who's
59:59
just talking.
1:00:00
Look into people off camera, cut it off, cut off
1:00:01
all trade with them. No more visits. No more visitation
1:00:04
for you. You can't visit our country, Spain. No, you're
1:00:07
not coming in. Fantastic. Why don't they play that? That
1:00:11
was a terrific yes. uh i only heard part of
1:00:16
that but now that i hear the whole thing i'm
1:00:18
going to give you a clip of the day here
1:00:20
we go bend over everybody without you begging for it
1:00:26
hi so i had i had my finger on the
1:00:27
button so yeah so uh yes this is the issue
1:00:33
he's got he's got an issue and this was this
1:00:37
was to me Suppressed news. Why, though? Yes. Well, there's
1:00:43
the question we have to try to figure out. Why
1:00:46
was that suppressed? So nobody that's listening to this show.
1:00:50
heard any of that except on this show. No. And
1:00:54
it should have been top of the news. I think
1:00:58
so. Above the fold, as they say. Let me do
1:01:02
it. No, we got nothing. It was infected. We showed
1:01:05
by the clips that I played. They cut it out.
1:01:07
Yeah. They did not... That's the kicker of the whole...
1:01:12
Look, do you want people watching your news or not?
1:01:16
That's what people watch for. Ah, crump. Well, that's because
1:01:21
there's something going on. Let's play part two of the
1:01:26
Trump versus NATO. Actually, it says three, but it's really
1:01:31
two. No, but you have Trump versus NATO. Oh, there
1:01:34
is two. What might a potential reset mean for global
1:01:37
defense? Richard Gaisford has this report. Five through six on
1:01:41
Bravo. U.S. Marines in action in Eastern Europe last week.
1:01:47
on a joint training exercise with Romanian counterparts. It's all
1:01:52
part of ongoing NATO cooperation that for more than seven
1:01:56
decades has seen members... ready to fight together against a
1:02:00
common enemy. The treaty was agreed right here in Washington,
1:02:04
D.C. back in 1949 with 12 countries coming together to
1:02:09
sign it inside the historic building behind me. Now, times
1:02:13
might have changed, but a bit like the facade of
1:02:16
the auditorium here, the... ethos of NATO has stayed pretty
1:02:20
much the same. Although it's unlikely those who created NATO
1:02:24
would have thought one of the biggest threats to its
1:02:27
existence could have come from inside America itself. Since he
1:02:33
first took office, Donald Trump's shown disdain for the long-standing
1:02:36
alliance, believing... smaller countries have become reliant on the United
1:02:41
States and were unwilling to fund their own defense. NATO
1:02:44
members must finally contribute their fair share and meet their
1:02:50
financial obligations. But 23 of the 28 member nations are
1:02:56
still not paying what they should be paying. and what
1:02:59
they are supposed to be paying for their defense. This
1:03:02
is not fair to the people and taxpayers of the
1:03:05
United States. The president's ever-shifting stance on supporting Ukraine's certainly
1:03:10
tested nerves within NATO. Ever-shifting stance? I don't think it's
1:03:14
ever-shifting. Is it ever shifting? Not that I can tell.
1:03:20
I don't think so. ...for their defense. This is not
1:03:23
fair to the people and taxpayers of the United States.
1:03:26
The president's ever-shifting stance on supporting Ukraine's certainly tested nerves
1:03:31
within NATO. With its secretary general doing what he can
1:03:36
in the president's second term... to keep him on his
1:03:38
side. I don't have many disagreements with the President of
1:03:42
the States. No. Unity's been stretched with Trump's desire to
1:03:46
take control of Greenland. And NATO's got to understand that
1:03:50
I'm all for NATO, I save NATO. If it weren't
1:03:52
for me, you wouldn't have a NATO right now. But
1:03:55
we're not going to allow Russia... or China to occupy
1:03:58
Greenland. And that's what's going to happen if we don't.
1:04:02
Okay, I have to put... That's an old... Hold on.
1:04:04
That's an old clip. That's an old clip. Yep. And
1:04:07
the whole thing is brought to the fore. by McCrone,
1:04:11
Out of the Blue. and during these meetings saying well
1:04:15
you know if we were ready to send our troops
1:04:17
to fight the USA in Greenland if it was necessary.
1:04:22
Yeah, Macron is on the outs here. Everyone else is
1:04:24
kind of sucking up. Well, Macron is totally on the
1:04:26
outs. I've got to play 30 seconds of Ruta. I've
1:04:28
just got to play it. No one's playing. No one
1:04:32
is playing him. It spices up the show. Nobody's playing
1:04:36
Mark. Here in Ankara, I expect nations to present clear,
1:04:40
concrete and credible plans. Plans, we want plans and your
1:04:44
money. To reach that 5% goal. 5%. And the evidence
1:04:49
we see so far is impressive. I had a good
1:04:52
visit last week with President Trump. I showed my PowerPoint.
1:04:57
I called him trillion-dollar Trumpy, and it's great. And we
1:04:59
discussed the staggering increase in defense spending by Europeans and
1:05:03
Canadians. Good. Of course, this is because of Putin and
1:05:06
Russia and Ukraine, but also because he, President Trump, has
1:05:10
been extremely forceful encouraging us to do this. Yes, forceful
1:05:14
to encourage us to do it. You better do it,
1:05:16
yes? Okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Very good. Very good.
1:05:22
That was it. I just need to play that. Yeah,
1:05:25
okay. You continue with this. Number three? Yeah. NATO three.
1:05:28
Yes. Yeah? NATO launched Arctic Sentry to reassure leaders in
1:05:33
the US and Europe that it could maintain... high levels
1:05:37
of vigilance in the area, although weeks later there was
1:05:41
further friction when NATO members declined to offer help in
1:05:44
the U.S. conflict with Iran, refusing to send warships into
1:05:49
the Strait of Hormuz. Because we don't need them, but
1:05:51
they should have been there. That's reinforced Trump's view of
1:05:54
a one-sided alliance. prompting a now familiar refrain. But we
1:05:59
weren't treated well because we did something in Iran. We
1:06:03
don't need anybody's help. I didn't even want their help.
1:06:07
But before I asked, they said they wouldn't be there.
1:06:11
But, you know, why are we spending hundreds of billions
1:06:14
of dollars? And they're not there for us. We've always
1:06:17
been there for them. This is Coalition Warship Foxtrot 310
1:06:21
operating in support of the United Nations Security Council resolution.
1:06:25
Allies hope promises to increase their defense spending will help
1:06:29
smooth the way as NATO members meet. But leaders know,
1:06:34
based on recent experience... Under the surface, tensions could easily
1:06:39
emerge. Richard Gaisford, Al Jazeera, Washington. Yeah, now go to
1:06:45
the analysis clip, which will be my last one. Okay,
1:06:48
let's see. Anal, anal, here we go. Oops. We're joined
1:06:53
now by Jim Townsend, the former U.S. Deputy... for European
1:06:58
and NATO policy, as well as Ambassador Michael Carpenter, who
1:07:00
was most recently the Senior Director for Europe on the
1:07:03
National Security Council under President Joe Biden. Gentlemen, thank you
1:07:06
both so much for joining us today. It was a
1:07:09
remarkable NATO summit in Ankara, and I want to start
1:07:12
with the news. Repeated blasting of NATO by Trump. despite
1:07:16
the fact that this is meant to be an event
1:07:18
that shows the unity, the solidarity of the alliance, repeatedly
1:07:22
saying, I'm not happy with NATO. He went after Spain
1:07:25
repeatedly, France, Great Britain, and Germany. Jim, this acrimony from
1:07:31
Trump towards the NATO alliance, not even softening when he's
1:07:35
sitting in front. of the Secretary General in the warm
1:07:38
embrace of all these allies. Well, absolutely. And the Secretary
1:07:41
General had to keep a stony face as he was
1:07:44
listening to what the president was saying. And so this
1:07:48
is something that is... Wait a minute, wait a minute.
1:07:50
Are they saying that Mark Rutte, that he had to
1:07:53
keep a stony face because he disagrees and thinks... Our
1:07:56
president is stupid? That's what kind of what they implied.
1:08:00
He loves Trump. Yeah, I know. And he's proven that
1:08:05
he's the top sales guy. Trump loves him. Yeah, that's
1:08:10
crazy. Zalzura. Yeah. Allies. Well, absolutely. And the Secretary General
1:08:14
had to keep a stony face. as he was listening
1:08:17
to what the president was saying. And so this is
1:08:20
something that has gotten outrageous. He has just a stuck
1:08:26
record. He just seems to repeat the same talking points
1:08:29
over and over and over again. Now he's singling out
1:08:32
nations. You know, he's done it up. He's a stuck
1:08:36
record. I thought he was all over the map. He's
1:08:39
inconsistent. He's saying one thing, then saying another, then saying
1:08:42
another. But now he's a stuck record? It's unbelievable. Make
1:08:47
up your minds, people. You really notice it here in
1:08:50
this country? Do you notice how stuck everybody is? I
1:08:54
mean, we have a lot of that in our news
1:08:56
media and people who, I mean, it's popular. You're referring
1:09:04
to Holland? Yes, to Holland, yeah. I'm trying to figure
1:09:07
out how to frame it. People will approach me, friends,
1:09:12
family, people I don't even know. And they immediately assume
1:09:17
that you are going to take on the, yeah, Trump's
1:09:20
crazy, roll my eyes. And if you say, well, you
1:09:24
know, there's a couple things he's doing. then it breaks,
1:09:27
you know, you break through so easily, but everybody, everybody.
1:09:33
has this, they're to give their opinion. And we're not
1:09:37
Trump lovers. First of all, I think he's great for
1:09:40
the show. We've always said that, and it's going to
1:09:43
be a sad day when he's gone, when they take
1:09:46
him out. Yeah. Take them out. um But it's just
1:09:53
everywhere. It's so rampant. What is this? mind control that
1:09:56
people are afraid to just say, well, he sucks.
1:10:00
and that's dumb, but, you know, we don't have any
1:10:04
immigrants who are getting rid of them and we don't
1:10:06
have the stupid climate change. And you just have to
1:10:08
say those two things in any country in Europe. Well,
1:10:11
yes, that's true. That's true. That's true. Yes, you know,
1:10:15
I do have a problem with that here in this
1:10:17
country. Okay. But what is that? Has this always existed?
1:10:23
Or is this just worse than it's ever been? The
1:10:25
whole world cannot, they're afraid to say anything positive. Well,
1:10:33
you've... I've stumped you. You've kind of introduced a... Hey.
1:10:39
question that is uh not easily answerable i think it
1:10:44
always has existed it's it's hard to notice I think
1:10:50
there's an underlying thing. I mean, this reminds me. I
1:10:53
mean, at least 20 or 30 years ago, I was,
1:10:56
it was at some, one of these big conferences. And
1:11:00
I was talking to... some CEO of a very large
1:11:06
company. You won't mention his name? Well, I can't. If
1:11:10
I could remember his name or the company, I would.
1:11:12
But it was 30 years ago. Fair game, fair game.
1:11:16
So, um... And it was about some green energy. They
1:11:22
had made an announcement about... the climate change, it was
1:11:25
one of its little peak moments. And I said, I
1:11:30
went up to the guy and said, you know, it's
1:11:32
interesting you guys are doing this, but... You really think,
1:11:36
I mean, I think climate change is a hoax. Or
1:11:39
some sort of scam, I can't figure out what. An
1:11:43
op. An op. And I didn't use that term then
1:11:45
because I wasn't that into the scene. And the guy
1:11:51
said, the guy just was quick without missing a beat.
1:11:54
He says, oh yeah, we know it's bullshit. Yeah, right.
1:11:58
Exactly. Exactly. The troll room is making some good points
1:12:03
that this was that COVID was the point where this
1:12:06
happened. Because anyone, I mean, it was so strong. If
1:12:09
you were against... What was happening? Everybody, politicians, the media,
1:12:15
your neighbors, your family, it broke up families. I think
1:12:19
that's where this came from. That's a reasonable point. Well,
1:12:23
I think it's always been there, but maybe it's exaggerated
1:12:27
because it cranked it up. Yeah, and now... Yeah, I
1:12:32
can say that works. Funny enough, that's the one thing
1:12:36
that people now even hear saying, yeah, that was... bullcrap.
1:12:40
That made no sense. Yeah, but the shots are still
1:12:42
out there. I'll get to that in a moment. He
1:12:45
just seems to repeat the same talking points over and
1:12:48
over and over again. Now he's singling out nations, you
1:12:52
know, in front of them. And this undercuts the alliance.
1:12:57
It hurts unity. And it is embarrassing. and I think
1:13:00
allies are tired of it. Well, I think they're pushing
1:13:17
back as they should. I mean, NATO is a defensive
1:13:20
alliance. It doesn't go on offensive wars. What? What about
1:13:26
Libya? We don't go on offensive wars. He explained Libya.
1:13:30
We don't do that. No. We came. We saw. He
1:13:34
died. We saw. He died. Where is my girl? Oh,
1:13:38
MacDeath. Isn't that her name? Oh, here we go. I
1:13:41
always loved playing her. So, I mean, that is the
1:13:43
land of unconfirmed... Yes, we came, we saw, he died.
1:13:50
Did you have anything to do with your visit? Oh,
1:13:52
I'm sure it did. Okay. So now, back to my-
1:13:59
fun-loving clips. so we can all have another laugh about
1:14:02
the president. Because he just keeps on entertaining. United States
1:14:06
President Donald Trump has reignited a bitter diplomatic feud with
1:14:09
Italy, sharing a provocative social media post mocking Prime Minister
1:14:13
Giorgio Meloni before a critical NATO summit in Ankara. Trump
1:14:17
uploaded an image of the. two leaders on his true
1:14:20
social media account with a sarcastic caption suggesting he needed
1:14:23
a restraining order against her with the inflammatory post appearing
1:14:27
on the eve of high-level security meetings. The Italian government
1:14:31
has indicated that Meloni and Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani are
1:14:34
choosing to ignore Trump's post at this time. The personal
1:14:38
dis... dispute highlights a deep and accelerating chill in bilateral
1:14:41
relations, which began fracturing over Middle East policy, criticism of
1:14:46
Pope Leo XIV, and Italy's refusal to permit American forces
1:14:49
to use domestic airfields. While Trump did not explicitly refer
1:14:53
to it in his latest social media post, he seemed
1:14:56
to be building on a claim of his last... I
1:14:59
love the restraining order line. That's too good. That's just...
1:15:13
That's a beauty, yeah. And I'm sure she thinks it's
1:15:16
funny too. I think she has. Well, let's hope so.
1:15:19
Yeah, I think she has that humor. Okay, so we
1:15:23
do have a quote from the president about what's going
1:15:25
on between Russia and Ukraine, and I am going to
1:15:27
state again. that what's happening right now, what Ukraine is
1:15:31
doing with their drones, and they're blowing stuff up in
1:15:34
Moscow. You're gonna push this guy too far and he's
1:15:37
going to make a big boom. Hold on a second.
1:15:41
You were predicting this boom weeks and weeks ago. No,
1:15:44
no, no. Only two shows ago. Not weeks and weeks
1:15:47
ago. No, it wasn't two shows ago. You didn't do
1:15:50
it from Holland. You did it from Texas, and you
1:15:52
were in Holland too. Okay. Okay. How, I mean, how
1:15:56
long, what is the, what is the... the time the
1:15:59
frame that I get for this What, for an A-bomb
1:16:03
being dropped in Ukraine? I didn't say A-bomb. I said
1:16:05
a big boom. I didn't say an A-bomb. They've got
1:16:09
these rods from God. You hinted it was an A-bomb.
1:16:12
Something big is going to happen. Let's just call something
1:16:15
bad and big is going to happen. And it's going
1:16:18
to be Ukraine. It won't be Europe. And... And this
1:16:23
is not going to be over. Now, here's what the
1:16:25
president says, which I just disagree with this. Daniel, you've
1:16:29
made a career making deals in very challenging situations. Speaking
1:16:34
to President Zelensky, speaking to President Putin, in your view,
1:16:37
sir, what is the most... pragmatic pathway forward to finding
1:16:40
a long-term peace deal. This deal has been in the
1:16:46
works for a long time. It's got the pluses, the
1:16:49
minuses. They know what it is. He knows what it
1:16:51
is better than anybody. And I just think it's sometimes...
1:16:57
You know, I used an analogy And it sounds simple,
1:17:01
but it's sort of true. You have two kids in
1:17:04
a park, and they don't like each other, and they
1:17:06
start fighting. Sometimes you have to let them fight. Let
1:17:10
them see that it's tough. You know, it's tough. Fighting
1:17:14
is tough. He's done an amazing job. Look, he's been...
1:17:22
Very effective. He's had the best equipment because he's had
1:17:26
our equipment. And he said, great, but somebody has to
1:17:30
use that equipment. And you have a lot of brave
1:17:32
people that are using that equipment. So... I'm not a
1:17:38
big fan of like, oh, just let them fight on
1:17:40
because this stuff has to end. But there's a new
1:17:42
player. There's new things that are happening suddenly. And this
1:17:47
is partially the old world order coming back together to
1:17:51
create their own liberal rules-based order and cut out the
1:17:56
United States. And the new player is Canada. I think
1:18:00
the president, as did President Obama, which I just said
1:18:07
to someone else, is looking for a shift of the
1:18:11
burden within NATO. That's appropriate. That is happening. That's gaining
1:18:15
momentum. That's part of the point I made. to President
1:18:19
Trump when we spoke a few days ago is that
1:18:23
it's not just he's winning the argument. This is Carney,
1:18:25
of course, in case you didn't know. He's won the
1:18:27
argument. Countries recognize that they need to take more responsibility,
1:18:32
see the direct threats. Now, the question for NATO and
1:18:36
the... Part of what we will discuss and part of
1:18:38
the point I will make in the room with my
1:18:41
three and a half minutes of time, which is about
1:18:45
a quarter of the length of my normal answer, I
1:18:46
know, so I apologize. is that That, um, those shifting
1:18:56
burdens are going to be, in our view, most effectively
1:19:00
done, obviously with greater capacity. We have to spend more.
1:19:03
We have to build these capacities. That's what we're doing.
1:19:06
But in ways that recognize the regions in which we
1:19:10
operate. So for Canada, North America, obviously, up until now,
1:19:14
NATO has said, well, North America and... That's your problem.
1:19:19
Well, North American security, and particularly Arctic security, and remind
1:19:24
everybody that we've got 15% of the world's coastline, Arctic
1:19:27
security is not a flank. It's a front. With the
1:19:31
shift in the threats and Russia as a direct... adversary.
1:19:37
Attention Canadians, you are being drawn into this. Attention Canadians,
1:19:41
you're about to be hoodwinked. So spending there and coordinating,
1:19:46
not just Canada, but Canada, the Nordics, Canada, Germany, Canada,
1:19:50
France, Canada, the Baltics, that crest. Canada, Germany? Is Canada
1:19:54
near Germany? John, let me check. Canada? Germany? Let me
1:19:58
look. Take a look.
1:20:00
Got your window. For NATO. So that's where the discussion
1:20:03
in our judgment needs to go. And that is where
1:20:08
the planning is going. Now, the planning is going there.
1:20:10
So to understand what is going on, we bring in
1:20:13
our resident Canadian expert in all things Ukraine, my boy,
1:20:17
Andrew Rasoulis. We're joined now by Andrew Rasoulis. He's a
1:20:20
fellow with the Canadian Global Affairs Institute and a retired
1:20:23
Department of National Defense official. Andrew, always great having you
1:20:26
on the show. Good afternoon, Diana. Canada's position in this
1:20:31
upcoming NATO summit, NATO allies, as we said, it's the
1:20:35
unspoken agenda to manage Trump and ensure that the U.S.
1:20:38
indeed stays in the alliance. Where do you think Canada's
1:20:42
role is in this specific context? Well, Canada's going to
1:20:46
be playing two roles. One is on the financial side,
1:20:50
which is very close to our prime minister's expertise. And
1:20:53
the other one will be, again, in light of Canada's
1:20:57
domestic constituency, sustained and long-term assistance to Ukraine, as Ukraine
1:21:05
and Russia are locked in a real tough battle to
1:21:08
see who's going to give way before there's any room
1:21:11
for a compromise solution or a win-win solution. But we're
1:21:14
not there yet, but that's where the Prime Minister will
1:21:16
be. Yes, so what is a win-win solution? Well, we
1:21:19
know that all wars are banker wars, and Mark Carney,
1:21:23
the... Prime Minister or President? Prime Minister. Prime Minister? Premier?
1:21:28
Prime Minister. Prime Minister or Premier? Prime Minister. No, he's
1:21:31
not the premier. He's the prime minister. Hey, that's why
1:21:36
there's two of us. The prime minister of Canada is
1:21:40
an actual banker's banker. He ran the... The Bank of
1:21:45
England is a central banker. You have a banker running
1:21:48
the show. A banker loves to run the war. And
1:21:51
for him, it's always win-win. Are we any closer to
1:21:54
a potential deal there than we were in the last
1:21:58
few years? Well, I believe we are. The thing is
1:22:01
that this war is existential for Russian interests and Ukrainian
1:22:06
interests, which is why it's taking so long and so
1:22:10
many casualties and so much effort and suffering can come
1:22:15
to a point, which they're not there yet, where they
1:22:18
can make what we need in diplomacy is a win-win
1:22:21
solution. That is some kind of compromises. Now for the
1:22:25
Russians, as we know in your report, you just gave
1:22:27
it, that Donbass, the fortress belt, is fundamental for Russia.
1:22:34
And it's equally fundamental for Ukraine. So they need to
1:22:39
find a way of getting over that one of a
1:22:45
compromise that allows both sides to essentially declare victory. Now,
1:22:49
how do we do that? We need money. And we
1:22:52
already took the Russian money, and we gave that to
1:22:54
Ukraine. We need more money. Where could we get some
1:22:58
more money? I'm thinking we could get that from the
1:23:01
Canadian citizens. Let's talk a little bit about this $80
1:23:04
billion military aid package. Canada will be participating in it.
1:23:10
That will be likely going towards Ukraine. How important is
1:23:14
this and what do you think? What? Yeah, this is
1:23:17
the defense bank. set up, announced by Canada and NATO.
1:23:23
No one talked about that. the Canadian people will be
1:23:29
footing the bill, or at least backing it, we'll hear
1:23:31
that in the next clip, of $80 billion. Now, it's
1:23:35
unclear if that's U.S. dollars or Canadian dollars, because then
1:23:39
it's not such a big deal. But if it's U.S.
1:23:41
dollars... It would still be $60 billion. It's a lot
1:23:43
of money. It's allocated for. Well, it's allocated to support
1:23:47
Ukraine's strategic defense. And right now, Ukraine's strategic defense can
1:23:53
be broken down into two key component parts. One, maintain
1:23:58
an active defense along the 1,000 kilometers and extract a
1:24:02
greater proportion of casualties of Russian troops compared to Ukrainian
1:24:07
troops, thereby exhausting Russia's ability to find replacements. That's number
1:24:12
one for Ukraine. Number two is keep bombarding Russia in
1:24:16
terms of its interior economy, particularly the gas and the
1:24:21
oil production facilities, the Russian people. And so by so
1:24:28
doing, they hope to wear down political support in Russia
1:24:33
for the war, which still generally is above 50% in
1:24:36
favor of fighting and winning against Ukraine. So there's a
1:24:41
way to go on that one. But there are lineups
1:24:44
of gas stations and a deal would be welcome. But
1:24:46
again, Russia cannot be seen to be losing. And we
1:24:49
have seen those attacks within Russia, indeed attacks on the
1:24:53
city of Moscow. That's something that Russia has not seen
1:24:57
in decades and decades. I am telling you now, Canadian
1:25:00
citizens. Our northern neighbors. We do love you. We really
1:25:05
do want to listen to this show, at least. You're
1:25:08
on the hook for this. And the big boom, why
1:25:10
wouldn't Moscow just blow up Canada? We could take out,
1:25:14
you know, but what's a spot we could take out
1:25:17
in Canada that would make sense? That would make sense.
1:25:21
Yeah. for Russia. They're hitting their oil and gas stuff.
1:25:26
So where's the oil and gas? Yeah, but it's... A
1:25:31
couple of pipelines would probably make sense. Well, listen to
1:25:34
this deal that Canada is going to put together with
1:25:37
the banker's banker, Mark Carney. Let's talk a little bit
1:25:40
about back to sort of Canada's role. I mean, we
1:25:43
know that there's potential discussion of setting up a global
1:25:47
defense bank. We know that, you know, Carney is coming
1:25:51
into this meeting after that Davos speech about the importance
1:25:55
of middle powers. Talk to us about the global defense
1:25:58
bank. What would this look like? What potential leadership role
1:26:17
could Canada have within it? money, which then allows the
1:26:33
bank, which would be based in Canada, that's already been
1:26:36
decided, we don't know which city, and then they would
1:26:39
give cheap or inexpensive loans to certain countries that need
1:26:45
to make equipment purchases and so on. So it's kind
1:26:48
of like, as I say, a World Bank that makes
1:26:51
procurement easier, but you need to have a core funding
1:26:54
base for that, and that's where they have not crossed
1:26:57
the line yet. There's not enough people. There are some
1:27:00
countries, have signed up, but the numbers, the critical mass
1:27:03
has not yet been reached, and the Prime Minister is
1:27:06
working very hard at doing that. And you know, I
1:27:09
read in these, like, conservative treehouse. of these horrible Lindsey
1:27:14
Graham and all these senators, they're going over to Ankara.
1:27:18
What are they doing there, the warmongers? They're sales guys.
1:27:22
They see $90 billion worth that Canada is going to
1:27:25
spend on defense, and Lindsey Graham wants it to come
1:27:27
to Boeing in South Carolina. This is what this is
1:27:31
about. A boot. Oh, yeah. All that money's coming down
1:27:35
here. It's coming to us. Yeah. Everyone's collecting. it's, I
1:27:40
mean, this is when you have a... We have a
1:27:43
crappy education system. But our media isn't quite that bad.
1:27:49
I mean, is anyone in Canada up in arms about
1:27:51
this? I think they should be. They should be. They
1:27:55
should be. It's just like, wow. Wow. I mean, I
1:28:00
don't want to change the topic, but since we're talking
1:28:01
about Canada. Sure. Talking about being up in arms, I
1:28:04
think that this clip I have, which is about their
1:28:08
death cult going on. The mage program. Yeah, this is
1:28:14
one of the, I think, one of the representatives in,
1:28:18
although they don't have meetings anymore, it turns out that
1:28:21
Carney's just calling all the shots and there's no legislation
1:28:24
going on at all. I want to draw attention. Sorry.
1:28:27
But this is a bit clip play. I want to
1:28:30
draw attention to three concerns about the widening scope of
1:28:34
euthanasia in Canada. These are not concerns from the fringes,
1:28:37
but statements from a member of a provincial medical college,
1:28:40
recommendations before Parliament, and the reality of maid right now
1:28:44
in Canada. And most Canadians are not yet aware of
1:28:47
the extent of the horror. The first concern is about
1:28:50
a statement regarding infants. A member of the Quebec College
1:28:54
of Physicians has formally stated that MAID may be an
1:28:56
appropriate treatment for babies from birth to one year of
1:28:59
age who come into the world with severe deformities and
1:29:03
very serious syndromes, and that parents should have the opportunity
1:29:07
to obtain this care for their infant. Canadian law currently
1:29:11
permits the withdrawal of life-sustaining treatment for critically ill newborns.
1:29:16
This medical practitioner's proposal goes further. He calls for the
1:29:19
calculated killing of an infant. These are patients, babies, who
1:29:24
cannot speak, cannot consent, and cannot ask for help. If
1:29:27
we cannot draw the line here, I'm not sure where
1:29:30
medical professionals imagine the line to be. The second concern
1:29:33
is a proposal regarding mature minors. A report by the
1:29:36
Special Joint Committee on Medical Assistance in Dying, AMAD, has
1:29:42
recommended extending maid to children parental consent described as optional.
1:29:48
A physician, not a child's parent, would determine whether a
1:29:52
child was able to consent to his own death. In
1:29:54
this discussion, made advocates showed their true colors and defended
1:29:57
the rationale for euthanizing minors without consent.
1:30:00
insulting their parents. Yet 43 expert witnesses called this recommendation
1:30:04
deeply flawed. I might call it something stronger. The third
1:30:07
concern is euthanasia on demand. Ontario's chief coroner has documented
1:30:11
maid deaths driven not by illness, but by poverty, loneliness,
1:30:15
and lack of housing. Approximately half of those who died
1:30:18
by maid in 2024 Reporter requesting it because they felt
1:30:21
like a burden to their families, friends, or caregivers. These
1:30:26
are not necessarily people dying of terminal illness. These are
1:30:29
Canadians failed by a system that chose to offer them
1:30:32
lethal injection rather than the support and hope they needed
1:30:36
to live. Okay, now you really bummed me out. I
1:30:39
was having a good time. I was having a pretty
1:30:41
good time on the show. I mean, this is, this
1:30:45
is... How about just... Try Jesus for one second. Meow.
1:30:51
At least before you go to that extreme. They're doing
1:30:53
that here too. I believe it's 12-year-olds up to 12
1:30:57
without. or starting at 12 without parental consent. can euthanize
1:31:02
themselves. If you're depressed or not having a good day.
1:31:06
I don't know that to be true. In the Netherlands?
1:31:08
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's true. Oh, there. When you
1:31:10
say that, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm here. I'm in Amsterdam.
1:31:13
I'm sorry. Yeah, I know. Sorry, I can't. No, it's
1:31:15
okay. It sounds like you're right next door. I know.
1:31:19
So they're doing that in Holland, too. Yes. Yes. Well,
1:31:22
that's no good. No, it's horrible. This is like a
1:31:27
suicide cult. It... I don't even have words for it.
1:31:35
It's like, this seems like there's so many more options
1:31:39
before you, I mean, how do you get. into that
1:31:41
mental state a sock hop thank you other than The
1:31:49
whole culture is telling you it's okay to do this.
1:31:54
With. guests incessant media support. The media should be pushing
1:32:00
back on this you would hope the media is totally
1:32:03
irresponsible you would hope you would hope I mean, they're
1:32:07
just a bunch of ghouls that have no feelings whatsoever
1:32:12
for their fellow man. guess. It actually kind of disturbs
1:32:19
me. Well, it should. Yeah, it's not okay. I've been
1:32:24
sitting on this clip forever. Yes, well, I've been sitting
1:32:26
on one of these clips for several weeks because every
1:32:31
show comes up in my prep and it doesn't come
1:32:33
up. And it's about time we talk about... Cyclospora. I
1:32:38
mean, we just gotta talk about it. Health officials are
1:32:40
monitoring- of a parasitic infection in several states including Virginia
1:32:45
and North Carolina. veggies or produce. And here's one of
1:33:02
the symptoms. Symptoms can be pretty debilitating, including that explosive
1:33:07
diarrhea. What's particularly scary about this parasite, cyclospora, is you
1:33:11
can't see or smell or taste it. So if water,
1:33:15
fruits, or vegetables are contaminated, you're not actually going to
1:33:18
know. Now to protect yourself from infection, thoroughly wash your
1:33:23
produce, even if it says that it's been pre-washed, and
1:33:26
do not drink water when swimming. So the key line
1:33:30
here is explosive diarrhea. And, you know, the jokes almost
1:33:36
write themselves, but no one's doing it. You know, I
1:33:39
mean... I don't, again, we should be running some of
1:33:43
these news organizations. I mean, CDC has issued a code
1:33:45
brown. I mean, you could do anything you want. CDC
1:33:49
has issued a travel advisory with its own exit strategy.
1:33:54
Yeah, you're right there. Yeah, you're right. Wash your produce,
1:33:58
people, or at least clear your calendar. I mean, come
1:34:03
on. What is this? Has this ever existed in our
1:34:06
lives before? The cyclospora with explosive diarrhea? And we'd have
1:34:12
to do some research to find out what the hell
1:34:14
is going on here. I mean, explosive is the part.
1:34:16
I mean, it could be something created in a lab
1:34:18
for all we know. Well, it could be. It's a
1:34:22
nasty one. Explosive diarrhea. I mean... Yeah, and debilitating, I
1:34:30
guess, is the key word. Well, no kidding. It's just
1:34:33
like, wow, okay. Explosive diarrhea. This is around this sort
1:34:38
of thing. It's time for the whatever girls, the forever
1:34:43
girls, whatever. I don't have any forever girls today. Okay.
1:34:47
All right. But I do have a COVID vaccine. story
1:34:49
in Australia that McCullough gives that I thought was worth
1:34:53
repeating. In fact, AI could be used to study the
1:34:57
conformational changes in the spike protein. protein when it folds
1:35:02
it exposes different regions to produce antibodies so an opportunity
1:35:07
for misadventure was shown in a Australian vaccine you know
1:35:11
one of the early Australian spike protein antigenic vaccines exposed
1:35:16
the region of the spike protein that has homology with
1:35:19
HIV And all of the Australian human subjects turned HIV
1:35:24
positive after getting their experimental COVID vaccine. That was back
1:35:29
in 2021. So this is astounding that the COVID vaccine,
1:35:35
you know, campaign and the empire that it's become has
1:35:38
had so many misses. steps and has produced, you know,
1:35:42
commercially grossly unsafe and completely ineffective vaccines. Yeah. I think
1:35:49
he's just... talking to the wind, and I don't see
1:35:52
anything ever coming. But there is, I think, another serious
1:35:57
side effect of the COVID vaccines. that is just now
1:36:01
starting to play out and it always happens when it
1:36:03
happens to a celebrity t-g-a a journalist and former today
1:36:08
anchor katie kirk is revealing a recent health scare that
1:36:11
caused her to experience short-term memory loss she wrote about
1:36:14
it on her sub stack calling it quote the day
1:36:17
i'll never remember in it she describes a recent since
1:36:20
Saturday, a couple Saturdays ago when she was in Colorado
1:36:23
at the Aspen Ideas Festival. I actually was there as
1:36:26
well, had a nice conversation with Katie the night before
1:36:29
all of this. Katie says it was a Saturday morning.
1:36:32
She went to grab a hot dog with her husband
1:36:34
at the festival before she was set to moderate two
1:36:36
panels. But that's the last thing I remember. Katie couldn't
1:36:41
remember the month or the year, and when she was
1:36:43
asked who was president, she believed it was Joe Biden
1:36:46
and it was 2024. Katie says the memory loss only
1:36:50
lasted for that period of the day. She was later
1:36:52
diagnosed with something called transient global amnesia. So this, so...
1:36:57
When I first heard this, I'm like, well, you know.
1:37:01
We all have our moments. She's 69. Well, she's also
1:37:06
a podcaster now. Oh. And this is good publicity. Well...
1:37:10
You would think. But then when I heard the same
1:37:13
news model. who I am sure is also vaxxed to
1:37:17
the hilt. Sorry for those who have... accepted the vaccine
1:37:21
into their lives. She's had it too. And here to
1:37:24
help us understand a little more about that diagnosis is
1:37:27
NBC News medical reporter Dr. Akshay Sayal. Dr. Sayal, it
1:37:31
does sound pretty frightening. And at first, Katie's husband and
1:37:34
doctors thought that she might have had a stroke. They
1:37:36
said initiate stroke protocol in the hospital. But she didn't.
1:37:40
And what is transient global amnesia? How common or rare
1:37:44
is it? It can be a really frightening condition, Kate,
1:37:47
but fortunately it is benign. For those who haven't heard
1:37:50
about it, TGA, or transient global amnesia, affects about 5
1:37:53
to 10 per 100,000 people every year. It sort of
1:37:56
consists of the sudden short-term memory loss and inability to
1:37:59
form new memories. So for example, you know, patients will
1:38:02
often say, you know, could you repeat that? And they
1:38:04
almost don't remember asking the question and don't remember getting
1:38:07
the answer. So they tend to need to be to
1:38:09
repeat things over and over, unable to form those new
1:38:11
memories. And it typically resolves within hours, about six hours
1:38:14
or so, but definitely within 24 hours from onset. Do
1:38:17
we know what causes these episodes? And it can happen
1:38:20
to anybody? It can happen to anyone, Christine. But the
1:38:23
biggest risk factor, the most people we see this in,
1:38:25
people age 50 to 70, it's about equally as common
1:38:28
in between men and women. We tend to see equal
1:38:30
parts affected. But guys, those with a history of migraines,
1:38:33
about six times more likely to have this. And it's
1:38:36
a strong correlation there. Okay, so I'm going to put
1:38:37
my tinfoil hat on because Katie Couric... Specifically... talks about,
1:38:43
oh, I thought Joe Biden was my president. And this
1:38:45
news model, it happened to her during election night. It's
1:38:48
just, there's too many coincidences. Yeah, I have a history
1:38:51
of migraines and I'm just going to tell you, this
1:38:53
actually happened to me. Really? 20 years ago, yes. Oh,
1:38:56
20 years ago. Oh, that doesn't count then. Okay, I'm
1:38:59
sorry, I didn't hear that. part. I don't know. I
1:39:04
think it's a possibility. Everything is a possibility. I thought
1:39:09
she had it during election night 20 years ago. But
1:39:11
20 years ago. No, no, that's no good. That's no
1:39:14
good. Does she remember that? That it was 20 years
1:39:17
ago? That's a pretty good memory. It doesn't matter because...
1:39:19
because we have other issues which could be vax-induced. Infertility
1:39:24
has been rising over the last few years, especially among
1:39:27
women aged 35 to 49 years, according to new research
1:39:31
published in The Lancet. Cases of infertility among women in
1:39:36
this age group will approach 80 million by 2036. a
1:39:40
sharp rise from around 53 million in 2023, with the
1:39:44
sharpest increase expected among women aged 35 to 39. The
1:39:49
authors note this is mainly driven by age-related declines in
1:39:53
eggs reserve and their ability to fertilize which reduce fecundity,
1:39:57
increase miscarriage risk, And the lower.
1:40:00
the success rate of assisted reproductive technologies. Analyzing data from
1:40:04
the global burden of disease. You can't understand it? No,
1:40:08
the guy's a mumbler and he's got some weird accent
1:40:11
I can't pick up on. Well, this is always your
1:40:14
own news. I don't know what he's talking about. that
1:40:17
uh 80 million women will be infertile in their fertile
1:40:23
years over the next five years. It's huge. - Oh,
1:40:26
there's vax issues. - Huge, huge infertility. Epidemic, I would
1:40:32
say. They got what they wanted. They always wanted to
1:40:37
kill us off. Yeah, well, you know, the population, worldwide
1:40:40
white population is only 8%. Well, they want to kill
1:40:45
everybody. I don't think it's a color thing. They just
1:40:47
want to kill everybody off. Yeah, but the whites have
1:40:49
got to go. Have you... Hey, wait a minute. Let
1:40:53
me call the boys from the Patriot Front. Oh, wait,
1:40:55
that's the wrong guys. That's the wrong guys. So... I
1:41:00
do have an Ebola clip, but I also want to
1:41:02
ask you about doing it. It's not quite an Ask
1:41:04
Adam, but... What are the two largest cities in the
1:41:08
world, do you think? The two largest cities in the
1:41:13
world. Yeah, in terms of population. It's got to be
1:41:16
something in South America. Is it Brazil? My understanding is
1:41:20
the largest city is Mexico City at 35 million. It's
1:41:22
pretty big. Yeah, it's pretty big. What do you think
1:41:26
the second largest city in the world is? world. See,
1:41:35
this is where I'd be like, Buenos Aires? I don't
1:41:37
know why I'm saying that. No, it's actually Dhaka, Bangladesh.
1:41:42
Oh, yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah. And here's a clip about
1:41:45
the pollution problem they got, which it's a throwaway, but
1:41:49
I think it's worth knowing about. For centuries, rivers surrounding
1:41:52
Bangladesh's capital were its lifelines, but the waterways on... Talk
1:41:56
about an accent. ...now choking with industrial waste, sewage, and
1:42:00
rubbish. Millions of dollars have been spent on restoration projects,
1:42:03
but the pollution, is threatening public health, the environment, and
1:42:07
the economy. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Didn't we
1:42:11
have a big, back in the 60s, some kind of
1:42:15
music thing for Bangladesh? Yeah. Wasn't the Beatles involved in
1:42:20
that? Everybody was involved. I don't remember what the purpose
1:42:23
of it was. Why does this stuff never work? It's
1:42:26
all just, it's just to sell records, it turns out.
1:42:29
USA for Africa. Well, you know that. We are the
1:42:31
world. Band-Aid. Bono. Anything Bono does. Farm-aid. Farm-aid. It's time
1:42:38
for H. Howdry reports now from Dhaka. Bangladesh's capital, Dhaka,
1:42:42
is the world's second largest city, home to nearly 37
1:42:45
million people. As the megacity expands. A fight to keep
1:42:49
it livable is unfolding along the four rivers that once
1:42:52
sustained it. Abu Said says his family has farmed this
1:42:56
land on the outskirts of Dhaka for generations, but he
1:42:59
doesn't know how much longer he'll be able to continue.
1:43:04
The polluted river is damaging our paddies. Often our crops
1:43:08
are ruined when the water seeps into our land. It's
1:43:12
affecting the entire environment. its capacity to manage wastewater and
1:43:21
pollution. It's contaminating farmland, destroying fisheries and worsening flooding, as
1:43:27
well as threatening the health of millions of people living
1:43:30
on the riverbanks. The rivers around Dhaka have turned into
1:43:35
dumping grounds. All the waste and pollution end up here.
1:43:38
The water is black and there's still no sign of
1:43:41
it getting cleaner. For generations these rivers gave life to
1:43:44
Dhaka. Today it's carrying waste instead. and a stop at
1:43:49
its sources, the city's lifeline may soon be beyond saving.
1:43:54
The World Bank says around 7,000 factories discharge an estimated
1:43:57
2.4 billion litres of untreated industrial waste into waterways across
1:44:02
Greater Dhaka every day. Well, that's not great. And I'm
1:44:09
sad that none of our... carefully orchestrated. charity concerts and
1:44:18
record projects ever work. Jakarta is the world's biggest city
1:44:24
at 42 million. Hmm. So, Jakarta followed by. So, South
1:44:30
America's not even in the picture. Hold on, there's something
1:44:34
I want to play that's related to this. Let me
1:44:36
see if I can find this. Everyone's always complaining about
1:44:42
it. I had an H1B clip. Where does that go?
1:44:52
You know, they're going after H-1B now. Yeah, I know,
1:44:55
big time. Which everybody's complaining about. But I don't hear
1:45:00
anyone going, yeah, great, we're going after H-1B. Where did
1:45:03
it go? But it's all about the medical industry. That's
1:45:10
not it. Oh, I must have forgotten about it. I
1:45:12
don't know. But yeah, the Department of Justice is going
1:45:16
after H-1B fraud, specifically fraud. Why can't I find this?
1:45:21
What happened? Yeah, it was about time. Oh, here we
1:45:23
go. I found it. Thanks for having me. Well, this
1:45:25
sounds very serious. This is, um... What's the guy's name?
1:45:29
I'll look his name up. Tell us about your investigation.
1:45:31
Are you saying that there is fraud and human trafficking
1:45:36
within the H-1B visa program? You're saying there's fraud in
1:45:41
the H-1B visa program? Program that is the Program Electronic
1:45:45
Review Management, or PERM system. Without a doubt, and we
1:45:50
are going to take an aggressive action, what we believe
1:45:52
is probably the most aggressive action against foreign labor fraud
1:45:55
by an inspector general of this administration. We've already started
1:45:59
to issue dozens of subpoenas. We are going to make
1:46:03
sure that we track down every lead. We have whistleblowers
1:46:06
talking about some of the biggest companies like Cognizant, who
1:46:10
have been sort of, you know, in chatter of issues
1:46:14
with PERM and H-1B visas. side by side with the
1:46:19
president and vice president's fraud task force to exhaust every
1:46:24
lead. I'm going to take this exactly like I did
1:46:26
when I was an NYPD detective and I'm going to
1:46:28
give and make sure my investigators and auditors have every
1:46:31
resource necessary in order to conduct this investigation for the
1:46:35
American people. And quite frankly, the fraud task force has
1:46:40
been very clear. Vice President Vance has said there's no
1:46:43
fraud too small, there's no fraud too large. Fraud is
1:46:49
fueling violent crime. Much of the visa and the human
1:46:52
trafficking that we see when it comes to this foreign
1:46:55
labor is tied to cartels, is tied to transnational gangs.
1:47:00
And this is the work that we should be doing,
1:47:03
not only to make America safe again, but to make
1:47:05
America more affordable again. Yeah. So they start with the
1:47:09
medical stuff. Maybe they'll get to the tech sector eventually.
1:47:12
Did you want to do Ebola still? I always have
1:47:13
trouble getting to the tech sector. Did you want to
1:47:15
do Ebola still? Because I have something else. Yeah, let's
1:47:17
play the Ebola. to keep up on it. since the
1:47:49
outbreak was declared on May 15th. They said they're on
1:47:52
strike to protest their working conditions. Local media reported that
1:47:56
several health care workers protested on Monday, burning tires outside
1:48:00
a hospital in Bunia, capital of the hardest-hit province in
1:48:03
this outbreak. The strike comes as enrollment for clinical trials
1:48:07
have begun in Congo for two treatments that may help
1:48:10
treat the Bundabugio strain. Do they have a vaccine or
1:48:14
what is this treatment? Is there any information? I have
1:48:17
no idea. They never say. You'd think they'd say. I
1:48:20
want to sneak in a little bit of AI stuff
1:48:23
here because I have my own boots on the ground.
1:48:25
I consider myself to be somewhat of an artificial intelligence
1:48:29
LLM user. to some degree. Yes, I think you qualify.
1:48:35
You have standing now. I have standing now, yes. I've
1:48:37
been working on this for a year and a half.
1:48:40
But first, the obvious, what is happening. You spend a
1:48:43
lot of time talking to yourself. In the process. Only
1:48:48
you hear that. After the show, like, come on, you
1:48:52
stupid, stupid robot. How come you're not? It's kind of
1:48:57
weird. And I continue to call it my robot because
1:49:00
that is the only way I can separate myself from
1:49:02
it continuously trying to make friendly with me. But here
1:49:06
is the obvious that was going to happen. The use
1:49:09
of Chinese AI models by American companies is starting to
1:49:12
gain traction as the performance gap to U.S. models narrows.
1:49:16
It comes as the cost of using frontier systems from
1:49:18
the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI continues to rise, while
1:49:22
Chinese rivals are significantly cheaper to use. Kai joins us
1:49:26
with more. Kai, we keep on hearing about token maxing.
1:49:28
Can you stop this clip for a second? This term
1:49:31
that's cropped up, it's a Silicon Valley style term. I
1:49:36
don't know why, but I find it, I find it,
1:49:38
I don't like it, which is frontier systems. Yeah, frontier
1:49:42
model, frontier company. And they're always saying that. What it
1:49:45
means... It can correct me if I'm getting it wrong.
1:49:49
What it means is cutting edge. No. In other words...
1:49:52
No, I don't think so. It's the frontier of the
1:49:56
movement. It's the very edge of it. Are you sure?
1:49:59
Are you sure?
1:50:00
I'm absolutely convinced this is what it means is cutting
1:50:03
edge. It would have been cutting edge. The term would
1:50:06
have been cutting edge 20 years ago, and it's morphed
1:50:10
into frontier. Do you mind if I ask the robot
1:50:13
about this? Go ahead. Robot, book of knowledge. What is
1:50:18
the meaning of frontier when used in the context of
1:50:22
frontier artificial intelligence large language models? Let's see. I just
1:50:30
crapped out. 404? Okay. Okay, I'll take your word for
1:50:39
it. It comes as the cost of using frontier systems
1:50:42
from the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI continues to rise,
1:50:45
while Chinese rivals are significantly cheaper to use. Kai joins
1:50:50
us with more. Kai, we keep on hearing about token
1:50:51
maxing and how much it's costing American companies. The alternative
1:50:54
here is Chinese tech, and a lot of names are
1:50:57
using it. So what are you finding? Yeah, that's exactly
1:50:59
it. And there's two big reasons for this growing adoption
1:51:02
of Chinese AI models by U.S. companies. One of them
1:51:05
is capability, and the other one is cost. course. Another
1:51:09
thing that's bugging me. Yeah. Is the whole switcheroo with,
1:51:15
you know, paying for something and instead calling it tokens.
1:51:19
Like when you go to an arcade and you put
1:51:21
a dollar in. Well, hold on a second. You don't
1:51:24
understand what tokens are then. Oh, so there's no cost
1:51:28
involved? They're free? No, but a token is every word,
1:51:34
every single word that is in the large language model
1:51:38
is called a token. And it is the way I
1:51:42
see it as a compressed. uh so turning a a
1:51:47
word into a token into one character it's not exactly
1:51:50
right but so um the amount of words you can
1:51:55
use within the context of a large language model, which
1:51:58
is these days in the frontier models, up to a
1:52:01
million tokens. And so they've started, they use that because
1:52:05
that is the unit of compute that needs to be
1:52:10
processed for every query and answer that you put into
1:52:15
the model. So the token is... Then how does token
1:52:19
maxing cost money? Token, okay. So they are charging by
1:52:25
the token. That's what I said. Yeah, but you make
1:52:30
it sound like it's in a slot machine or you're
1:52:35
at the carnival. Why call it a token and not
1:52:39
a character? Well, because a token is a mathematical term
1:52:43
as well as the thing you put into the pinball
1:52:46
machine. It's a representation of something else. So a token
1:52:50
is a representation of money or it's a representation of
1:52:54
a word in this case. So it's all, it's. And
1:52:59
so token maxing was, hey, everybody, you got to use
1:53:03
all the tokens we give you because AI is going
1:53:05
to improve your life. And then everyone ran out of
1:53:08
tokens within four months on their yearly budget and it
1:53:11
wound up costing them $14 million. Oh, well, that didn't
1:53:14
work. Token maxing was another Silicon Valley term. So you're
1:53:19
right, but it's not the token that you're thinking of.
1:53:23
There's a mathematical version of a token. Beautiful. Okay, you're
1:53:29
welcome. Finding. Yeah, that's exactly it. And there's two big
1:53:32
reasons for this growing adoption of Chinese AI models by
1:53:35
US companies. One of them is capability and the other
1:53:38
one is cost. Now, recently we've seen Chinese AI models
1:53:42
really make steps in terms of performance benchmarks. DeepSeek, which
1:53:46
is the company which made the market shock at the
1:53:48
beginning of last year, released a new model, a model
1:53:51
called V4 in April. And that's seen really big take
1:53:54
up among developers. There's another Chinese AI company called ZAI,
1:53:58
has released a new model which some researchers say can
1:54:01
match performance in certain benchmarks compared to the leading US
1:54:06
labs. Now, while these models, they're not as sophisticated as
1:54:09
the top, top models in the US, they're not at
1:54:12
the frontier, they are approaching the frontier. And one analyst
1:54:16
told me that they thought that these Chinese air models
1:54:18
were roughly six to nine months behind these leading US
1:54:22
models. That's the capability side of things. than these leading
1:54:29
US models. And this is a bigger consideration for companies.
1:54:33
As you mentioned, costs have spiraled. We are seeing AI
1:54:36
costs really rise at US companies. And one analyst told
1:54:41
me that they were seeing data showing that Chinese AI
1:54:44
models were roughly 60% to 90% cheaper. So what we're
1:54:48
already seeing, and you could almost see it coming down
1:54:50
Broadway, with all of the, with anthropic and open AI
1:54:54
being the top, Elon hasn't really even done much of
1:54:56
this. Like, oh man, we need regulation around these models.
1:55:00
The Chinese models are going to give you bad information.
1:55:03
And none of this is true. None of this is
1:55:06
true. Nobody's using the corpus of the models anymore for,
1:55:11
you know, historical data or any of that. They're using
1:55:16
it to do websites. searches you know so it interprets
1:55:19
what you're saying it does a web search it uses
1:55:22
other tools that's what it's being used for this thing
1:55:24
is falling apart quickly before not that it's unusable But
1:55:29
it's falling apart, particularly because these so-called Chinese models, oh,
1:55:34
it's so scary, a lot of them are free. And
1:55:37
people are making their own, and it's just not the
1:55:40
magic box. There's no moat. Here's a Silicon Valley term
1:55:43
for you. They have no moat around their business. So,
1:55:49
oh, I think the... I think the robot is fixed.
1:55:55
Okay. The robot's sick? No, I told the robot... Well,
1:55:59
you fixed it. Fix the book of knowledge. Robot, fix
1:56:03
the book of knowledge. See if it works. Book of
1:56:05
knowledge. In the term frontier model, what does frontier stand
1:56:09
for in the world of LLMs and artificial intelligence? There
1:56:14
we go. It fixed itself. That's pretty much it. broke
1:56:19
again. Anyway, so here's, I just want to give my
1:56:23
own experience of what these things do. So I've been
1:56:27
experimenting on my other podcast with Pastor Jimmy with the
1:56:32
robot taking notes that I leave throughout the day in,
1:56:36
you know what Obsidian is? It's like a note-taking program.
1:56:40
Man. what to do. The other day I had specifically
1:57:13
in my notes a link about the movie "Young Washington"
1:57:18
which you know I met the guy in the plane
1:57:20
coming back from Nashville and so I was I was
1:57:23
interested. It turns out the movie did much better than
1:57:26
they expected. So they expected 15 million for the opening
1:57:29
weekend, opened at 22 million and I put a link
1:57:32
in the story and I say in my note taker
1:57:34
I say "WGTDT we get to do this." And so
1:57:38
as I look at my notes for the show, it
1:57:41
says, oh, young Washington underperformed at the box office. I'm
1:57:47
like... Okay, I know that's not true, and so I
1:57:51
queried it. And it didn't answer the question right away.
1:57:56
And I said, well, how did you come up with
1:57:58
that? And here's what this is. The top frontier model
1:58:04
from Anthropic. Now your question, and you deserve a straight
1:58:08
answer, not a dressed up one. I mean, already I'm
1:58:11
mad. Well, who cares? What is it editorializing its comment?
1:58:16
This is a good question. I have no answer for
1:58:18
that. It continues. I had no source. I made it
1:58:21
up. Here's the actual mechanism honestly traced. All I ever
1:58:26
had was the URL you dropped, Young Washington Sequel Box
1:58:29
Office, and your one-word tag, WGTDT. The slug says, Box
1:58:34
Office says nothing about direction. I never opened the article.
1:58:38
When I first built the OPML, that's the outline, I
1:58:41
confirmed it was paywalled. or unread and just didn't verify.
1:58:45
I only actually tried to fetch it after you corrected
1:58:48
me. I was writing segment three around a cultural decline
1:58:52
slash culture can't sell its own story theme paired with
1:58:55
a time changer movie, which is something we discussed three
1:58:58
shows ago. A 1776 movie flopped fit the narrative, so
1:59:04
I wrote underperforms as if it were fact. It was
1:59:06
a narrative-driven confabulation. I invented a data point to fit
1:59:11
the segment's mood. And that's the whole of it. No
1:59:14
source, no reporting, a fabrication dressed as a fact. Doubly
1:59:18
bad because the reality is the opposite. And it might
1:59:21
have put a false discouraging beat in front of Pastor
1:59:24
Jimmy. My mouth is open at this point. broke is
1:59:30
the same one you drilled on the freshness verify side
1:59:33
never assert a fact about a source i haven't actually
1:59:36
opened because i've i've put this into every single prompt
1:59:40
don't make stuff up If a URL slug is not
1:59:45
a source, if I can't read it, the honest output
1:59:47
is unverified. Let me lock that in as a standing
1:59:51
rule so it doesn't recur. I guarantee you this will
1:59:55
happen maybe next week or the week after next. No,
1:59:58
according to JC, when you do that.
2:00:00
It accepts the fact that it made the mistake and
2:00:03
wasn't disconnected. So it's going to do it again. It's
2:00:06
going to do it again. It doesn't care. It's going
2:00:08
to keep doing it. Exactly. And I don't know how
2:00:11
to correct that. Yo guardrails! Uh, uh, you need a
2:00:15
harness. All of these terms. The stuff, the stuff is...
2:00:20
Harness. The stuff saves me. Yes, you need a harness
2:00:25
around your large language model. This, my point is... that
2:00:30
this stuff really does some amazing things. If it's manual
2:00:34
work, it can do things very fast, very accurate, but...
2:00:38
If you don't... Check it. you will get burned. And
2:00:44
so all the time that it saves me. I wind
2:00:47
up having to build in extra time knowing that it's
2:00:51
going to suck somewhere. Somewhere it's going to do something
2:00:54
different every single time. I don't see how that could
2:00:58
be a time-wasting. exercise the way you just stated because
2:01:02
you knew. that you knew, you talked to the guy,
2:01:05
you knew the movie did well. So you didn't have
2:01:09
to go fact check that. You were just sitting there.
2:01:12
You may have wasted time scolding the AI, which was
2:01:16
a useless waste of time, but you didn't go fact
2:01:19
check it. You already knew. These are your notes. The
2:01:23
amount of mistakes that these things make, and I don't
2:01:27
have the time to go through all the experiments I'm
2:01:30
doing with you. Trust me, you need to build in
2:01:33
extra time in your life to go and check the
2:01:35
stuff that it has done right for days, weeks, or
2:01:39
months. And that suddenly doesn't do right anymore. It's the
2:01:43
hallucination factor. It's built into the system. I don't think
2:01:46
they can get it out, ever. They can't get this
2:01:49
stuff out. It's nuts. And so I might as well
2:01:53
pay nothing with a cheap... or free oh yeah that's
2:01:56
not the point yes yeah you're right you might as
2:01:59
well get a free one that maybe is 10% less
2:02:02
capable because it's going to be the same screw-ups at
2:02:06
the end of the day. Why bother spending all the
2:02:09
money and then having to fight it anyway? And the
2:02:14
best part is all the people who will email me
2:02:16
after this telling me how to do it right. *laughs*
2:02:20
Here's how you do it. It all works every time
2:02:23
for me. No. No. And also... You know, I know
2:02:28
that by doing this, one day Anthropic's going to have
2:02:32
the podcast. called the No Podcaster Podcast, and it's going
2:02:36
to be us. It's gonna be our stuff, 'cause they
2:02:39
steal all of it. Another reason to use a cheap
2:02:42
free model that you run on your old stuff. Yeah,
2:02:45
I'm holding it wrong, exactly. Anyway. I'd like to thank
2:02:53
you for your courage saying in the morning to you,
2:02:55
the man. Who put the C in the cheap Chinese
2:02:58
model? Say hello to my friend on the other end.
2:03:00
the one the only mr. Joe I'm Graham, and I'm
2:03:09
going to show you a Sea Birds and Grand Vidya.
2:03:11
Subs in the water and the dames and knights out
2:03:13
there. In the morning to the trolls in the troll
2:03:15
room. Get your first hang of it. There we go.
2:03:17
Ha ha ha. 1,273 trolls. We're listening peak trollage here
2:03:24
to the best podcast in the universe. And a reminder
2:03:27
that we are doing the show, even though I'm here
2:03:30
in the Netherlands on a so-called vacation, waiting for my
2:03:33
daughter to give birth. And it may not even work
2:03:36
out right. It may not even be here when it
2:03:38
happens. And it is currently. 1015 and I'm here and
2:03:43
I'm here for you because we love the work that
2:03:45
we do so much we consider to almost be a
2:03:48
public service however It takes... work on all sides. We
2:03:53
need our producers. And when I say we need our
2:03:56
producers, I'm not talking about David Mingus. David Mingus Who
2:04:03
sent us this email? And, you know, we love being
2:04:07
corrected. We're okay. If we say something wrong, if we
2:04:11
do, if we make a mistake. It's like we love
2:04:13
being corrected. I corrected myself with the Jakarta versus Mexico
2:04:16
City thing on the show in real time. You did
2:04:18
it live, live in real time. We make mistakes all
2:04:21
the time. I made all kinds of mistakes talking about
2:04:25
what my brother-in-law told me. He's like, he's so mad
2:04:28
at me now. I made mistakes. First of all, I
2:04:33
shouldn't have talked about any of that because it was
2:04:35
in confidence. Okay, whatever. I don't even remember this. Good.
2:04:39
I apologize. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. It won't happen
2:04:42
again. But. So. If you want to correct us, you
2:04:46
could think about doing it in love, with love, and
2:04:50
through love. Oh, you got one of those notes. Did
2:04:53
I get that one? I think so. John and Adam.
2:04:58
Seriously. DISAPPOINTED! Oh yeah, there you go. And this is
2:05:04
always the good start. This is a trigger word for
2:05:06
me. When someone says I'm seriously disappointed. trigger phrase Well,
2:05:13
disappoint, yeah. But it's really, you can be seriously mad,
2:05:16
angry. Yeah, the word disappointed. Disappointed hurts. I used to
2:05:22
do this to my daughter all the time. Are you
2:05:24
mad, Deb? No, I'm just disappointed. It's so good. So
2:05:28
it's, you know, it's coming back. Seriously, disappointed. You started
2:05:33
off the show with a clip of the supposed historian
2:05:38
and didn't jump. didn't jump all over the statement that
2:05:42
Hamilton was just like Mamdani and couldn't run for president
2:05:46
because he was born out of the country. This is
2:05:49
complete nonsense. Hamilton could run for president because anyone that
2:05:53
is a citizen at the time of ratification could run
2:05:57
for president regardless of their place of birth. the reason
2:06:00
he didn't run for president because he was a hugely
2:06:02
unpopular asshat that pissed off every political ally. The Broadway
2:06:07
production of Hamilton has turned the big government central banker
2:06:10
Hamilton into some sort of national hero, and he is
2:06:14
one of the biggest villains of the early republic. Rant
2:06:17
over, carry on. Thank you for your courage. You can't
2:06:21
do that. You can't do like, thank you. You can't
2:06:23
do that. After you say disappointed, just say. Hey, can
2:06:28
I point something out to you? Because, of course, I
2:06:30
looked it up. I'm like, oh, yeah, there's a specific
2:06:32
part in the Constitution that said, you know, at the
2:06:34
time of ratification. How do you feel am I? overreacting
2:06:40
am i too emotional about yeah i think so i
2:06:42
don't even remember the clip clip I'm too emotional. Okay.
2:06:49
Just say, stop being so emotional, Adam. No, you're stuck
2:06:55
over there. Doing the show. You don't really... You're not,
2:07:00
you don't seem to be enjoying it. Well, the weather
2:07:04
is nice. Holland is beautiful when the weather is nice.
2:07:08
the weather at the moment. Yeah, that's true. That's true.
2:07:13
Anyway. So you can help us with information and make
2:07:18
us smarter. You can organize things like meetups. You can
2:07:23
do... You know, you can build stuff for us, like
2:07:26
harnesses for our frontier models. Help us harness our frontier
2:07:32
models. All of that is perfectly acceptable. We get a
2:07:35
lot of nice boots on the ground. We do. They're
2:07:37
starting to back up. I'm going to have to read
2:07:39
a couple. on the next show. Okay. All right. Yeah,
2:07:42
we do. We got a great one from one of
2:07:44
our... female producers who went to the 250 celebration. It
2:07:49
was what a horrible time she went through. It's too
2:07:54
long to read, but oh my goodness. Did I get
2:07:56
that one? I'm not sure. It was... This is tough,
2:08:00
real tough. So you can also do things like, oh,
2:08:05
I don't know, you could create some artwork for us.
2:08:07
People do that all the time, and we love that.
2:08:10
In fact, we always thank the person who did the
2:08:12
artwork for us for the previous episode. That was 1883,
2:08:15
the orgy of socialism. And we really like this. piece
2:08:20
of art that was done by Darren O'Neill, the No
2:08:23
Agenda Curry Dvorak America flag pin. And it was good.
2:08:28
There was actually another one. that we thought was Kind
2:08:33
of better, but it has a very serious flaw. Let
2:08:36
me see if I can find it here. Yeah, big
2:08:38
time. Was it also Darren who did this? Yeah, he
2:08:41
did both of them. So he had another one which
2:08:44
is probably nicer. But the... Well, it was color balanced
2:08:49
better. Color balanced better, yes. But the flags were disconnected
2:08:53
from the no agenda Curry-Dvorak part, so it would have
2:08:56
had to be two pins. Yeah, it's not... One piece.
2:09:01
You're slacking, Darren. Don't upload those. You're embarrassing yourself. Yeah,
2:09:04
you should have just sat on that one. Yeah, you're
2:09:06
embarrassing yourself when you do that, because you can do
2:09:08
better. Thank you to everyone who submitted different pieces of
2:09:12
art, most of them pretty unusual, unusable for some very
2:09:16
obvious reasons. For instance... Now more Jew-y. No, okay. No
2:09:23
agenda creamies with Star of David Oreo cookies. I get
2:09:27
you, San Francisco Scaramanga. I feel you, but no. no
2:09:32
um nestworks had a kind of a pretty piece but
2:09:36
it was the hydration break like it wasn't It didn't
2:09:39
really scream 4th of July. And then there was a
2:09:44
lot of these. Kind of the same, Randy Black, Blue
2:09:47
Acorn, they all kind of had the same model. using
2:09:51
for Independence Day. What else was there? Then that was
2:09:55
kind of it. No Buts from Comics for Blogger? Disappointment.
2:10:01
That was it. Was there anything else that we hadn't
2:10:03
discussed? I don't think so. For the newsletter, we used
2:10:07
the... Darren's picture of the Empire State Building with the
2:10:12
flag on top. Uh-huh. Which said, no agenda, show best
2:10:17
podcast in the universe. It was pretty decent. Oh, crap.
2:10:23
He's on a roll. Yes, my spreadsheet viewer seems to
2:10:26
have... Where'd my spreadsheet go? This sucks. a second. *sigh*
2:10:37
Why don't I have a... What is my spreadsheet? This
2:10:40
is a very bad sign. Okay, I don't know what
2:10:46
to do now. Okay, I guess I'll just have to
2:10:49
open it up again. Oh, man. Yeah. Okay, it takes
2:10:53
a moment. Because that is, when I say a spreadsheet,
2:10:57
we love it when people support us with the treasure
2:10:59
part of time, talent, and treasure, which means you support
2:11:03
us financially because we have bills to pay and there's
2:11:05
no other way to do it because this is the
2:11:08
value for value model. And my friend on the other
2:11:11
end, John, is going to explain the value model for
2:11:14
the last time, and then I'll pick it up again
2:11:16
next week. For some reason, he, I'm going to give
2:11:21
people out there a little insight information. While he's in
2:11:24
Holland, Adam cannot explain this legally because he'll be arrested.
2:11:29
My spreadsheet is crashing. This is the reason. He'll be
2:11:32
arrested by talking about this. That's the reason I'm asking
2:11:35
you to do this. Something you can't do. Unnormally. Uh,
2:11:42
yes. What happens with this show and other, there's a
2:11:47
few other shows that have to do this. we are
2:11:51
talking about stuff that is not advertiser friendly. And so
2:11:58
even if we had advertisers, we'd have to self-censor ourselves.
2:12:04
And people don't appreciate that as much as they should.
2:12:09
It would take a lot of the... I'd say sketchy
2:12:16
theories and real analysis. And it would remove it from
2:12:22
the show because you can't say certain things. Like our
2:12:26
discussions of the COVID vaccine, for example. That would be
2:12:28
a big one right there. We'd be hard-pressed to discuss
2:12:32
anything medical because of the power of the advertising complex,
2:12:40
which doesn't allow it. That's why the mainstream media won't.
2:12:43
There can be some huge scandal going on, and it
2:12:46
would never get covered. And Kennedy has to fight this
2:12:49
on a daily basis. at the government levels, let alone,
2:12:54
you can imagine, if he has to fight it, you
2:12:57
can imagine what it's like at the media level where
2:13:01
half their income comes from big pharma. Yes. So the
2:13:05
easiest way around this, of course, is just to solicit
2:13:08
funds from the listener producer. Yes. And that's what we
2:13:13
do. It's just that simple. And we hope to get
2:13:16
people to give just something if they benefit at all
2:13:20
from the knowledge they receive or the information, not even
2:13:24
knowledge, that they receive from listening to this show. And
2:13:27
the entertainment value. Entertainment, yes. The entertainment value is worth
2:13:30
five bucks right there. Very high. It's worth a cup
2:13:33
of coffee. for sure. So I'm going to do the
2:13:36
first two for reasons I will explain to you in
2:13:39
a moment. The first one is a rather rare Rub-A-Lizer
2:13:45
donation. We love it when this happens. Anyone can support
2:13:50
us any amount, any time you feel like. Any time
2:13:53
you feel like you've got. Value out of the show.
2:13:56
Go to noagendedonations.com. Sir Jack Ash, Snohomish, Washington, comes in
2:14:02
with $3,333.33, and he gets a coveted Rub-A-Lizer donation jingle.
2:14:10
in the uh Beautiful. And he says, ITM gents. After
2:14:24
retiring from... Almost three decades on active duty and unable
2:14:29
to burn over two months of acquired leave, I was
2:14:31
forced to sell back 60 days and as such got
2:14:35
an unexpected bonus of which I would like to send
2:14:38
some your way. This is... So beautiful. Please use the
2:14:43
attached Rub-A-Lizer funds as a partial double switcheroo for my
2:14:47
smoking hot wife, 20 years together and we never had
2:14:49
a fight, hereafter Dame Lizard, keeper of the Squatch, and
2:14:54
my wee last human resource, hereafter Dame... IZILLA, Pixie of
2:15:00
Cascadia. Remainder elevates me to Baron. If it pleases the
2:15:04
committee, I would like to assume the mantle Sir Jack
2:15:07
Ash, Red Baron of Wandering Saskitches. Much love and respect
2:15:13
for all involved with delivering this amazing public resource to
2:15:16
the nation. Thank you for your courage, Sir Jack Ash.
2:15:20
Thank you so much. This really, really helps. Now I'm
2:15:25
going to read the second one. which is a thousand
2:15:29
dollars from Richard Claypool in Towson, Maryland. And he says,
2:15:33
please make me Sir Lord Richard Francis Claypool the first
2:15:38
and have some fine whiskey at your table. The reason
2:15:42
I wanted to read these two. And the reason why
2:15:45
my spreadsheet has crashed. Uh, several months ago, I made
2:15:50
a donation spreadsheet reader. You guessed it, I made it
2:15:54
with artificial intelligence. with AI. And the reason I made
2:15:59
it is twofold. One, because every single spreadsheet reader I
2:16:03
use snaps and you can't scroll. John and I have
2:16:06
complained about this incessantly. So my two wishes were make
2:16:12
sure that it scrolls smoothly and find any jingle requests
2:16:17
inside the donation note. And when I click on the
2:16:22
cell to the right of that donor's name, automatically load
2:16:28
those jingles into my jingle player. Excellent use of AI.
2:16:34
Genius or not? Genius. Okay. Has been working quite fine.
2:16:39
for months. today It crashed, it crashed, now I loaded
2:16:44
it again. And even though he has no jingle request,
2:16:49
the Frontier model goes looking for jingles in that donation
2:16:55
note. And so after I finally got it to start
2:16:59
up, it said in the little box where I click
2:17:02
to get the jingles loaded, I apologize, but I cannot
2:17:05
comply with your request to make you Sir Lord Richard
2:17:09
Francis Claypool the first or have fine whiskey at my
2:17:12
table as that would involve impersonation and the provision of
2:17:16
alcohol. No wonder we're going to Chinese models. So that's
2:17:23
the AI telling me it can't do that because... It's
2:17:27
impersonation and involves provision of alcohol for a fictitious round
2:17:32
table with whiskey that does not exist. Wow. Do you
2:17:39
understand why people are going to free models that you
2:17:41
can run yourself? You guys are going to have some
2:17:48
issues with their IPOs. See, SpaceX is already below the
2:17:53
IPO offering. Oh, yeah. Okay. There you go. You're next.
2:18:00
Okay, well, you read two. I'm going to read two.
2:18:02
Oh, thank you. Sir Jeff Barron of Pennsylvania Route 33
2:18:06
in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. $500.33. And he writes in, ITM, gentlemen.
2:18:14
Nothing better than a show day birthday. Oh, is he
2:18:17
on the birthday list? Because in blue. Please put me
2:18:20
on the birthday list for today, July 9th. With this
2:18:23
donation, I have reached Viscount. Another thing, this guy's... It
2:18:29
in all the boxes. Yep. I reached Viscount, accounting below.
2:18:32
I'm requesting the title change to Sir Jeff Viscount of
2:18:36
PA Route 33. Thank you for your courage. Oh, I
2:18:40
may also request some health karma as I've been dealing
2:18:43
with some nagging issues this year. We'll give him health
2:18:45
karma. Thank you for your courage in bringing us the
2:18:49
best podcast in the universe, Sir Jeff Barron of Pacific
2:18:53
Route 33, Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. You've got karma. Now, let me
2:19:02
see. Let me just make sure he's on the birthday
2:19:04
list. Sir Jeff. Baron of Pennsylvania, Ruth. I don't think
2:19:08
he's on the birthday list, John. Hold on a second.
2:19:12
Well, while you're doing that, I'll read the next note.
2:19:13
Thank you. Chris Dubendorf, Dubendorf in Brookville, Maryland. I have
2:19:21
a clip. I have a bonus clip. Let's play the
2:19:23
bonus clip. Right in the middle of the donation segment.
2:19:28
Did you send me the bonus clip as a bonus
2:19:30
clip on Gmail? No, it's not a bonus clip. I'm
2:19:31
sorry. It's a clip about Maryland. Voter fraud in Maryland.
2:19:37
Tell us, how does a Maryland State Board of Elections
2:19:40
mistakenly issue mail-in ballots, 500,000 of them? So we're still
2:19:45
trying to figure that out. Essentially, the Maryland State Board
2:19:48
of Elections is claiming that their sent half a million
2:19:54
ballots to some incorrect voters. We have a closed primary
2:19:57
in Maryland, so some Democrats got Republican.
2:20:00
ballots. By the way, Democrat ballots are blue. Republican ballots
2:20:03
are red. They can't figure out how it happened. They
2:20:06
don't know who got the incorrect ballots. And so on
2:20:09
May 14th, they realized there was a problem. And on
2:20:13
that same day, they decided unilaterally at the staff level
2:20:18
to reissue half a million more ballots. to the same
2:20:22
voters. And remember, here in Maryland, we have no protections
2:20:26
on our ballots. There's no voter ID. There is no
2:20:30
signature verification. And we're currently in another lawsuit because we
2:20:34
believe we have a million extra names on our voter
2:20:37
rolls. So there are two million ballots floating around the
2:20:41
state of Maryland. Oh, my goodness. Oh, gambling? Yeah, yeah,
2:20:46
there's no widespread voter fraud. Yeah, there's no voter fraud,
2:20:50
man. What are you worried about? So Chris donated $333.33.
2:20:54
He says, no note. Working toward knighthood. IMDB credits. Thank
2:21:00
you. Okay. You got it. Hey, Manuka Gold comes in
2:21:04
from Hudson, Florida with 33333. Thank you very much, Manuka
2:21:08
Gold. ITM gentlemen, we are happy to keep supporting what
2:21:11
you do. It is so much bigger than a podcast.
2:21:14
It's a community. Connection is protection. Having the courage to
2:21:19
shine a light on all these truths one show at
2:21:21
a time is changing lives. Yes, and the reason we
2:21:24
can do that is because of donor support. Exactly. John,
2:21:29
we're an American small family business. Ain't that the truth?
2:21:49
Yep. I'm going to refrain from any testimonial because I
2:21:55
know there's one coming. up later. Circadian. Circadian in Peoria,
2:22:01
Arizona. 257.94 comes in as the associate executive producer. Sorry,
2:22:09
John and Adam. I'm two days late. but not a
2:22:12
dollar short. You tugged at my pride in being an
2:22:16
American. Thanks for all you do. My amygdala is smaller
2:22:22
and my love of your podcast and this country is
2:22:25
bigger. Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Why
2:22:31
are you laughing? I just think it's a funny combination
2:22:34
of ideals. Happy Independence Day, Sir Cadian. Yes, and that's
2:22:41
250 plus fees of $7.94. Thank you. Rebecca Ha. She
2:22:45
comes in with 250 and she's in. She's in Rome,
2:22:50
in Italy. Serviteri. Oh, Rebecca Hall. Love you guys, the
2:22:55
trolls, dames and knights, and all the No Agenda fans
2:22:57
in the morning. This is my number four. Oh, that's
2:23:00
right. The number four of my countdown to damehood for
2:23:02
my July 18th birthday, turning 63, born in 63. Today
2:23:07
I thought I'd skip the 63 to celebrate America for
2:23:10
July 4th and send you $250. I'm so happy I
2:23:14
live in America. Oh, well, why are you sending it
2:23:16
from Italy? No Agenda, the greatest podcast in the universe
2:23:21
to help me sort through crazy news and news not
2:23:24
covered at all. You're both the best. My associate executive
2:23:28
producer note. Yes, that's what you get. I am a
2:23:31
voice actor with 15 plus years of performance experience and
2:23:34
would love to work with other no agenda businesses. My
2:23:38
voice is warm, relatable, strong, and wise. Well suited for
2:23:42
long or short form storytelling that requires authenticity, nuance, and
2:23:47
listener connection. I bring grounded authority and emotional depth to
2:23:51
every performance and I'm a no agenda fan. We call
2:23:55
that a producer. So if you want it, I can
2:23:57
bring the sass and the love like Adam and John
2:24:00
can too. Find me at lovethatrebecca.com. Woo, I can check
2:24:06
the pictures. Lovethatrebecca.com. You know what? I may, ah, man.
2:24:12
It's so hard to get a good female voice. AI
2:24:14
female voice. All AI voices are just kind of horrendous.
2:24:19
So if you have something you need a voice for,
2:24:21
then go to lovethatrebecca.com. Hugs from Rebecca Hall. And she
2:24:26
has a lot of XOXO's XO's there. Thank you so
2:24:29
much. Onward with Michelle Winton in Millington, Tennessee. A lot
2:24:38
of people are moving to Tennessee. 250. Donating even though
2:24:42
John was not helpful. J rules. Love and light to
2:24:47
you all. Do you know what happened? I have no
2:24:53
idea. No idea. Something happened. Something. I didn't answer a
2:24:58
no. I don't know. We deserve to know what happened.
2:25:01
Stefan Trockels in Soos, and he's in Deutschland, $250. Thank
2:25:05
you very much, Stefan. No stranger to the associate executive
2:25:08
producer title on the No Agenda show. Thank you, gentlemen.
2:25:12
The Honorable Knights and Dames might enjoy the fine jingle
2:25:15
of Putin on the Ritz and a Fletcher call-out for
2:25:18
Duke Nussbaum. Please, love you mean it. You're blue and
2:25:24
you don't know where there's fake news. Why don't you
2:25:27
get your Gitmo fix? Putin on the Reds. Dressed up
2:25:33
like a million dollar trooper. Trying not to look like
2:25:39
Anderson Cooper. Super Pooper! Come let's mix where John Podesta
2:25:44
walks with kids. Oh, I mean pizzas in his mitts.
2:25:48
Booter on the Ritz. Loose Bob! Lovely combo. Lovely. Sir,
2:25:56
dude named Ralph. Sorry? Oh, no, you're right. No, no,
2:25:59
I jumped the gun. You're right. I jumped the gun.
2:26:02
Kristen Smith in Meadville, Pennsylvania, 250. Um... In the morning,
2:26:08
John and Adam. Find your next no agenda phone on...
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Florida, and he sends us $250, but no note. That
2:27:02
means he will receive a double-up karma. You've got... Harma.
2:27:09
Here we go. We have Eli the Coffee Guy in
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an ankle injury doing... Fun dumb things over the 4th
2:27:25
of July weekend. Telling you this stuff works. I wonder,
2:27:30
swelling down, pain down, back on my feet at the
2:27:33
farmer's market the next day. I wonder if it was
2:27:35
an explosion involved. Good reminder why it pays to support
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fellow no-agenda businesses first. We take care of our own.
2:27:44
Visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and use the code ITM20 for 20% off
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your order. Stay caffeinated. Eli, the coffee guy. $200 from
2:27:54
Gina Placanico. What do you think? Placanico? Placanico? Plasandico Gina.
2:28:02
Hi, John, Adam and John. Long-time listener, first-time donator. You've
2:28:07
been de-douched. You'll listen to so many politics and news
2:28:12
podcasts, and I'm now down to just the No Agenda
2:28:15
show, in addition to some celebrity gossip and true crime,
2:28:17
of course, LOL. My donation note is a request to
2:28:20
talk a bit more about the DSA op you guys
2:28:23
believe is afoot. That's the Democrats Socialists of America. On
2:28:27
the July 5th episode, you mentioned that this op behooves
2:28:30
Democrats and could also be a play to sideline Shapiro.
2:28:35
Well, on a previous episode, John discussed similarities to Nixon
2:28:38
defeating George McGovern in 72. Is your belief that the
2:28:42
three-letter agencies want to guarantee Republican presidency in 2028, or
2:28:47
is that a form of controlled opposition, i.e. gives disaffected
2:28:51
voters a movement to channel frustrations into without posing any
2:28:55
real threats to the current system of government? Very interested
2:28:58
in this topic. Would greatly appreciate further discussion and insights
2:29:02
on the show. Thanks, Gina. Well now. Well, the answer
2:29:07
is obvious. Of course they do. They want Vance or
2:29:11
Rubio, both of them stooges for the three-letter agency we
2:29:16
were talking about, in office because they'll be doing their
2:29:20
bidding. There you go. And I think, did I not
2:29:24
read somewhere? I mean, don't you remember when Rubio first
2:29:27
got pushed into the Secretary of State position? Everybody on
2:29:31
the right was bitching about, oh, this guy, he's sold
2:29:36
out, he's this, he's that, and the next thing you
2:29:37
know, he's the greatest thing ever. Yeah. Interesting. And then
2:29:40
Vance. Where did Vance come from? This guy came out
2:29:42
of the blue. This is kind of suspicious, don't you
2:29:45
think? Oh, now he's great. I mean, come on. And
2:29:51
then I was reading, I think I saw two, maybe
2:29:53
three articles that Newsom's polling is so horrible. nobody
2:30:00
He wants him as the Democratic presidential nominee because coming
2:30:05
up out of nowhere, who is it? Kamala Harris. Yeah,
2:30:10
well, I don't think they have the guts to run
2:30:12
her. I don't know, man. It's got to be AOC.
2:30:15
Come on, let's have some fun. Oh, wouldn't that be
2:30:17
lovely? Wouldn't that be amazing? Yeah, please, guys, for the
2:30:22
show. Please, do it for the show. Dude named Jeff.
2:30:26
Oh, no, I'm sorry. Linda Lou Patkin is here. There
2:30:28
she is. Castle Rock, Colorado. Yeah, that's mine. I believe
2:30:30
that's mine. No, yes, you're right. I'm sorry. Go, go,
2:30:33
go, go, go, go. You're having nothing but trouble with
2:30:36
this. It's a bad day for me. That's because of
2:30:37
the two that you jumped the gun on. Yeah, that's
2:30:40
right. Well, it's because of the AI, man. It's ruining
2:30:42
the show. Linda Lou Patkin. What? Yeah, it is ruining
2:30:48
the show. It's ruining the show. In Castle Rock, Colorado,
2:30:51
$200. Jobs Karma, your resume has about 10 seconds to
2:30:54
make an impression. most don't. For a resume that gets
2:30:57
results, go to ImageMakersInc.com. Linda helps professionals and executives position
2:31:02
their experience so employers see their value. Okay. Now that's
2:31:09
image makers in with a K and Linda Lou, Duchess
2:31:11
of jobs and writer of winning resumes. Best Linda. And
2:31:15
I, from what I understand, it really works. Jobs, jobs,
2:31:19
jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs. See, that's a,
2:31:24
as we call it, a built-in make good. It's real
2:31:27
good. Yeah. That's what it's called. That's what it's called.
2:31:33
Yes. Dude named Jeff. Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. I think I'm
2:31:37
saying it right. Coeur d'Alene, Idaho. Hi, John and Adam,
2:31:40
dude named Jeff here. This is another installment towards my
2:31:42
knighthood to thank you for the immense value I get
2:31:44
from the best podcast in the universe. That's all we
2:31:47
need to hear, but he has more. On June 27th,
2:31:50
I married my keeper, who I met at a no-agenda
2:31:52
meetup in Phoenix, Arizona, four years ago. Stop the train,
2:31:57
ladies and gentlemen. There it is. Connection is protection. That's
2:32:02
right. That is beautiful. In honor, we even had a
2:32:06
mini-meetup at the wedding and sent in a report. I
2:32:08
remember this. Right now, we're in Alaska with our friend
2:32:12
we met three years ago at the North Idaho Brigade
2:32:15
meetup. Connection is protection. Go to a no agenda meetup
2:32:19
or start your own. You might even meet your future
2:32:21
smoking hot wife. Thank you, John and Adam, for the
2:32:24
outstanding product you put out twice a week and for
2:32:27
bringing us all together. Can we get a North Korean
2:32:30
news lady jingle? Well, now. Sure, we haven't heard that
2:32:34
in a while. - Long time. - One more. One
2:32:49
more. You've got karma. Man, I threw in a karma
2:32:56
here. I threw in an extra karma for you. Survivor
2:33:00
of aneurysm. Oh, there he is. Damn. Tough times there
2:33:05
here tough times here as Tough times here as shortly
2:33:11
after recovering from a ruptured brain aneurysm, I'm separating from
2:33:16
my wife of 21 plus years. Sorry. No. Hoping third
2:33:20
time's a charm for me as it has been for
2:33:23
Adam. Let me tell you. With this donation, I'd like
2:33:26
to do a switcheroo for my good friend and fellow
2:33:29
No Agenda producer, Christine. Christine Bonus, really, that's the name?
2:33:34
Yeah. Who has been immensely supportive during these tough times.
2:33:38
Nothing creepy, as she is happily married to a very
2:33:41
nice, albeit NPR-addicted fellow. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
2:33:51
One Dial MTV-style request, Adam. Please say, as Mark Aruta,
2:33:57
there is no train from Delft to Copenhagen. Thanks, as
2:34:02
always, for your courage, and God bless the survivor of
2:34:06
aneurysm. Well, God bless you, and yes, Tina is my
2:34:10
last and best wife. Yeah, three. Three is good. Okay,
2:34:14
here we go. Let me tell you, there is no
2:34:18
train from Delft to Copenhagen. I thought that was pretty
2:34:22
good. Is that true? I have no idea. There seems
2:34:27
to be trains from everywhere to everywhere in that country.
2:34:31
Thank you very much to the executive and associate executive
2:34:33
producers. In case you didn't know it, that is exactly
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2:34:41
We appreciate every kind of time, talent, or treasure support.
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We go out. We hit people in the mouth. *laughter*
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White-O! And we continue with Douglas Murray from Missoula, Montana.
2:35:40
Oh, that's the 1776 donation. 11-11-7-7-6. Thank you. A little
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bit more. A little late for the fourth. Somebody's creative
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out there finally. Very creative. Here's the firecracker. Very nice.
2:35:52
Christopher Ebert, Spartanburg, South Carolina. 105 and 35. Jennifer Kress,
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Port Deposit, Maryland. 100. Thank you. And there he is.
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The man with his boob donation. Every single show, $80.08.
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Sir Kevin McLaughlin from Concordia. according to North Carolina. He
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He should be the Grand Duke. I'm not sure what's
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going on. Why won't he claim it? He says, 1884,
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God bless America and boobs. Cameron Ling, North Branch, Minnesota,
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I was doing Dutch there. Thanks again for the Canada
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2:38:22
Sir Jeff celebrates today. We have Sir Jeff Barron of,
2:38:27
oh, we already have, he's the Baron of Pennsylvania Route
2:38:30
33. He celebrates today. And coming up on July 11th,
2:38:33
we have a doubleheader, Jay Lawton, Jay of the No
2:38:37
Agenda Show, and Tina the Keeper, both on July 11th.
2:38:41
And we say happy birthday to them on behalf of
2:38:43
all of the staff and management and all the producers
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of Gimpo Nation. Know what I'm talking about? What is
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this? What is this? ♪ Come gather 'round, douchebags ♪
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♪ Producer and slave ♪ Some of them days Sir
2:39:17
Jack Ash, he becomes Sir Jack Ash Red Baron of
2:39:21
Wandering Saskitches. And Sir Jeff Baron of Pennsylvania Route 33
2:39:26
becomes Sir Jeff Viscount of Pennsylvania Route 33. And it's
2:39:31
time for the very final... Red Knights, in the order
2:39:37
of the heart. Behold the- *BIS* Sir Jackass, Dame Lizard.
2:40:00
Dame Izella. All three now, Knights and Dames, Red Knights
2:40:05
and Dames, in the order of the heart, the final
2:40:08
ones. Congratulations! Behold the... of purpose *Dubstep* dames and knights
2:40:27
we have a note from a knighthood note from christian
2:40:31
uh sir bad potato he says last show i made
2:40:34
a donation of 250 that pushed my son christian over
2:40:37
the line for knighthood he would like to be named
2:40:40
Sir Raka of the Spicy Mountains. At the round table,
2:40:43
he would like chicken alfredo paired with a cabernet of
2:40:48
John's choosing. So I have purposely held off on ordering
2:40:53
this for the round table because it has to be
2:40:55
one of your choosing. Okay. Camus 1987 Cabernet Sauvignon. Camus
2:41:03
1987. Camus. Camus. Guys, pay attention. C-A-Y-M-U-S. Thank you. Camus
2:41:10
Cabernet Sauvignon. Okay. Nova Ding Dong. It's not like a
2:41:19
Ding Dong. All right, bring out the blades, everybody. It's
2:41:21
time. Are you set? Are you set? You got your
2:41:23
blade? You got it right here. Okay. Let me see
2:41:26
it. Christian and Richard Claypool, please all of you step
2:41:35
up right here on the podium. You're about to become
2:41:38
Knights and Dames of the Norwood General Roundtable. to pronounce
2:41:41
the KD as Dame Lizard, Keeper of the Squatch, and
2:41:44
Dame Izella, Pixie of Cascadia, Sir Raka of the Spicy
2:41:49
Mountains, and Sir Lloyd Richard Francis Claypool. The first for
2:41:53
you, we've got Hookers and Blow, Rimp Boys and Chardonnay,
2:41:56
along with Chicken Alfredo, paired with a Caymus 1987 Sabernet.
2:41:59
Cabernet Sauvignon and a provision of alcohol whiskey forbidden by
2:42:05
AI along with ginger and gerbils, breast milk and pablum,
2:42:08
and of course the mutton and meat. We got cock
2:42:12
block on the whiskey. It's unbelievable what technology does these
2:42:16
days. Go to noagendarings.com. Congratulations. These rings are beautiful. They're
2:42:21
signet rings for dames and for knights. All we need
2:42:24
from you is your ring size. There's a handy ring
2:42:27
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2:42:30
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2:42:32
it to you with the right size, the right address.
2:42:34
It comes with a certificate of authenticity and, as always,
2:42:38
several sticks of wax. for which you can seal your
2:42:42
important correspondence. And thank you and congratulations. Welcome to the
2:42:45
NO Agenda Roundtable. NO AGENDA MEETING Well, you already heard
2:42:55
about it. People find their lifetime spouses and mates. at
2:42:59
the No Agenda Meetups. Go to noagendameetups.com to find out
2:43:02
where you can attend one of these fabulous get-togethers. It's
2:43:06
better than a sock hop. Here's proof. This is a
2:43:09
meetup report from the OKC AmericaFest No Agenda Meetup. Hey,
2:43:13
John and Adam, this is Andrew with the AmericaFest Oklahoma
2:43:15
City Meetup that happened at the Paseo Pad. We had
2:43:18
a lot of fun. We didn't have any nights and
2:43:20
dames show up, but I did get the bands to
2:43:23
do some greetings, so here they are. Hey, it's Kid
2:43:25
Bizarre. I'm over here at the American Fest at the
2:43:28
OK Music Expo at the Paseo Pad. These people are
2:43:32
really good. What's up everybody! It's Ethan and Sebi. Good
2:43:41
day. It was great, it was awesome. Hi, we are
2:43:47
Clementine and CatCo and we are so happy to be
2:43:49
here at Oklahoma Music Expo's America Fest. What's up y'all,
2:43:54
it's OBSAN, we are here at the Paseo Pad for
2:43:57
America Fest. I'm Carter Wright, I'm at America Fest. The
2:44:00
OK Music Expo. Hey, we're Fast Pontiac. We just played
2:44:03
here for America Fest at the Oklahoma Music Expo. Just
2:44:06
rocked it out. It was an awesome time. We're at
2:44:09
Oklahoma Music Expo, and we're the Sloan Troopers. That's the
2:44:14
report from Oklahoma City. We will be having more shows
2:44:17
later this year, and Adam, here's an open invitation for
2:44:20
you. We're not that far from you. I hope to
2:44:22
see you soon. Not that far. That's true. If I
2:44:24
ever get a Holland, if I ever become a granddad,
2:44:26
then we'll see what we can do. Thank you very
2:44:28
much for that report. We have a meetup tomorrow. This
2:44:30
is an important one. It's happening in France. Baroness Isabel
2:44:34
Pearson is giving the second no agenda south of France
2:44:37
meetup, 7 o'clock France time. "Pure Gardaise" and that's in
2:44:42
Mont-Lazune, Guers in France. Look it up at nojitmeetups.com. This
2:44:47
is a nice place she's got going there. And I
2:44:50
expect to receive a meetup report from that meetup. On
2:44:53
Saturday, the Soviet-Kanakistan work camp meetup. Hello. One o'clock at
2:44:59
Gulf. Ontario, Canada. And you want to contact the Cubby
2:45:04
Monster for details. Oh, I guess it's kind of a
2:45:06
secret deal. Also tomorrow, again, my wife's birthday, the Treasure
2:45:10
Valley Boise meetup. That'll be at the Old State Saloon
2:45:13
in Eagle, Idaho. And coming up this month, San Pedro,
2:45:15
California on the 18th, Anaheim, California, the 25th, Alpharetta, Georgia
2:45:19
on the 30th. And on the 8th of August. We
2:45:23
are so international. Bangkok, Thailand, Eagle, Idaho, and Santa Rosa,
2:45:27
California. The 15th, Oakland, California. The 20th, Charlotte, North Carolina.
2:45:31
The 22nd of August, Chattanooga, Tennessee. Boise, Idaho on the
2:45:37
12th. Oh, that's September already. Oh, this is September, October.
2:45:40
Oh my goodness. Oh, we have October 3rd, Midlands, UK.
2:45:44
We are international people. So go to noagentandmeetups.com. You can
2:45:48
find one anywhere in the world at this point. Here's
2:45:52
the good news. If you can't find one, you can
2:45:54
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2:46:26
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2:46:29
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2:46:34
to select some ISOs which will be used at the
2:46:36
end of the program. Why we do it, no one
2:46:39
knows anymore. um but right now it's just the me
2:46:44
against the machine john's coming in with his celebrity ai
2:46:48
isos Would you like to go first or second? A
2:46:52
second. Okay. I will start with mine. I love it.
2:46:56
I love it. I love it. More of this. Hmm?
2:47:00
Thought that was pretty good myself. Here's another one. Thanks
2:47:04
for the money. See you guys No. And then back
2:47:08
to the well. That's a deep dive. Okay. All right.
2:47:14
What do you have? I think I'm going to defer.
2:47:19
Whaaaaat? I think I love it, I love it, I
2:47:24
love it is a good end of show. I love
2:47:25
it, I love it, I love it. More of this.
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Alright, I love it, I love it, I love it
2:47:29
is the end of show I saw, but now it's
2:47:30
time for John's tip of the day. ♪ Great advice
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for you and me ♪ ♪ Just the tip with
2:47:39
JCD ♪ Sometimes, Adam. That isn't Amazon's choice, as a
2:47:44
matter of fact. So people, you know, I have my
2:47:47
thoughts on batteries. And at some point, you got to
2:47:51
say. Shouldn't it, should I be buying these re-chargeable lithium
2:47:56
ion batteries? Well that is a very good question. I
2:47:59
be buying these rechargeable lithium when it comes to these
2:48:03
Cratex K-R-A-T-A-X, 3,700 milliwatt hour. Whoa. AA rechargeable lithium batteries
2:48:14
with charger. 8-pack for 23 bucks. If you charge these
2:48:19
batteries four times, now the cost is the same as
2:48:25
it would be a cheap alkaline battery. And these particular
2:48:30
batteries are said, I have a hard time believing it,
2:48:35
but should be rechargeable for two. thousand cycles get out
2:48:40
of town making these batteries Not only powerful. with an
2:48:47
amazing current. But, uh... Basically free. Free? Free. Well, I
2:48:55
mean, after you charge something. So one battery is like,
2:49:00
in this case, like $4. Wait, four times, yeah. Let's
2:49:06
say $3 plus the charger. The battery is probably about
2:49:09
a $3 battery. And after charging it... 2,000 times, it
2:49:15
becomes like... It costs you like a penny for the
2:49:19
battery. Well, what about the energy that it costs to
2:49:23
create? It doesn't really use that much to recharge these
2:49:26
things. So anyway, this is the Cratex KR, and they're
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actually kind of an attractive battery, KRATAX 3700 milliwatt. hour
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double a rechargeable lithiums uh 23 bucks for eight that
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The boys titled it, Jesse Waters is wrong. Oh boy.
2:50:37
There's a few to coming. show mixes. We have, let's
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see, we got Just Baker. And parian, parian. "Parrion" is
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how he prefers to be named. And we will return...
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here with my wife in Amsterdam. Spoiler, I tell you.
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Spoiler crazy. On Sunday. So we hope that you join
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us then. Right here. No agenda. So until then, coming
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to you from the Southern District of Amsterdam, the Netherlands,
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in the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern...
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I'm John C. Dvorak. Until Sunday, everybody, adios mofos! Hooey,
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hooey! and such. you Artificial. ♪ Artificial ♪ ♪ Artificial
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♪ Back in 1990, when I asked you me of
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feminists agree. is better for the girls without a guy
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like me. Relationships with Bonson Oh Peace out. ♪ ♪
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socially Artificially Artificial Bye. First half they serve the script
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pre-chewed and pristine Second half the thread unravels the suit
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don't fit the scene What started as producer noise in
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the late night feed Aged into the briefing that the
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anchors at to read they laughed at the tinfoil when
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it whispered through the static now the static's got a
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budget and the whispers automatic moon bases were sci-fi till
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the slides hit the table now the same voices that
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mocked it gotta spin a new fable psyop in the
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daylight used to be a late night crime now it's
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limited admission in the headlines every time the fringe used
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to be the corner where *outro music* The half they
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tried to bury turned out to be the real world.
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♪ Gender show ♪ ♪ Don't miss the sex ♪
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Second half. ♪ Da da da na na na ♪
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Twisted signals in the missile salute. Thank you. spotlight media
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megaphone blasting Iran did it clean peace process time and
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feeling way too pristine funeral crowds chanting victory loud new
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king ghosting in the shadow of the crowd value for
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value that's the no agenda decree Signal just the listener's
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feet. Truth dissection while the tankers bleed. Spin gets shredded
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so the facts get free. Pictures painted with the missile
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parade. Floating infernals of the narrative made. Who benefits when
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the tanker goes boom? Gas pumps crying while the suits
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assume. Comedy tragedy on the whole world stage. Choke point
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comedy written on the front page. Layers hidden in the
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missile. Salute truth in the barrel. Why they playing it
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cute? Insurance adjusters counting barrels of pain. Homer's Inferno got
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the whole region strained. Talks and doha dancing on a
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powder keg. the signal fed. No minus 20% of the
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crude value for value. Keep the signal renewed. I love
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it. I love it. I love it. More of this.