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#427 In the Crosshairs With Tom Hampson: Going undercover, Libs of Tick Tock, Targeting Children, Speaker Mike Johnson, Power and Morality · Claymore: Become Who You Are

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Become who you Are podcast, the production of the John Paul II Renewal Center.
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: I'm Jack Rigard, your host, and I'm glad you're joining us today.
• 0:16
  Speaker 1: I'm with my good friend, thomas Hampson, and I asked him some questions about going undercover, a little bit about the new House Speaker, mike Johnson, and then we started to talk about the sexual exploitation of children and other things.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: I think you'll enjoy today's show, so buckle up and get ready for today's episode.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I'm excited and happy to be back with Tom Hampson, undercover investigator.
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: Child sex trafficking, child porn and many other things.
• 0:52
  Speaker 1: Tom, what's it like to go undercover?
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: Give me an idea of a time or a night or an assignment that you'd rather not do.
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Do you remember?
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: anything like that.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: Short-term undercover isn't so bad.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: The real problem with undercover is that if you're doing long-term undercover, you wind up.
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: It becomes an emotional challenge because you have to pretend like you like people and in the time you actually start to like them and you begin to have to remind yourself that these are not my friends.
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: Isn't that something?
• 1:26
  Speaker 1: So unpack that just a little bit, so without you don't have to name names or something.
• 1:31
  Speaker 1: So there are people and I could see that with myself.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: I had buddies of mine even growing up on a whole different vein, but kind of on that idea that we're not good for me, right, they're just not good company, not good people in general, but yeah, I like them a lot.
• 1:47
  Speaker 1: It's something how you can get to know them.
• 1:50
  Speaker 2: Well, it's something you think of bad guys being bad all the time, but really there's a lot of good things about people who are also very bad.
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: So you wind up developing a relationship with them and it becomes more difficult to carry out your job and arrest them or basically betray them, because that's what you're doing, is you're engaged in a planned betrayal.
• 2:16
  Speaker 2: So that's the most difficult part of undercover is that long-term relationship that you wind up Very from the very beginning you're going to betray them.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now that you say that, I don't think I'd be good at that, I don't think I'd be good at that, yeah, that would be difficult.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: I could see that.
• 2:35
  Speaker 1: Well, speaking of these things and what we do good, what we do bad, and I was thinking, as you were saying, how many politicians we know go into political office for the right reasons, get in with a lot of bad characters and end up with money, end up getting tempted.
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: We hear that a lot of those politicians are in the pockets of some of these world economic forum people and stuff and you go.
• 3:02
  Speaker 1: Well, how could they be?
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: And it's because they've got something on them having sex with minors or whatever.
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: All kinds of things.
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: It isn't just that.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: It goes to their head.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: They become seduced by the money, by the power, by the sex Really, there's people that might throw themselves at them because of the power that they have and they become corrupted by this status that they have.
• 3:34
  Speaker 2: They begin to believe that they really are special people, that they are better than others, and so I think that's what causes them to fall.
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: It's amazing, how pride does it huh?
• 3:47
  Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that we're always cautioned about is to maintain your humility, because if you're humble, that stuff can't happen.
• 3:56
  Speaker 2: But once you start believing that you're better than other people, that it's not too easy to corrupt other aspects of your life.
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: And I've seen it happen to a number.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: I've watched people's careers as they go along.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: A couple of governors in Illinois that started off as genuinely caring about people that wound up being corrupted by the position that they had, by the power that they had, by the attractiveness of getting more and more power, and so they sold out.
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, who comes to mind when you say that?
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: Well, George Ryan for one.
• 4:34
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about another one who Dan Walker.
• 4:37
  Speaker 1: Dan Walker.
• 4:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about him, mike Johnson.
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: Mike Johnson now is the new Speaker of the House.
• 4:45
  Speaker 1: I didn't know Mike Johnson at first, but I listened to a few things that he said, read a few things that he wrote.
• 4:51
  Speaker 1: What do you think about him?
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I liked him.
• 4:55
  Speaker 2: I actually have seen him before.
• 4:57
  Speaker 2: I'd noticed him before and watching some hearings that he was a member of the committees and I thought he always asked, acted respectfully, asked good questions.
• 5:07
  Speaker 2: He seemed to be very knowledgeable on the subjects and so when he was, I never thought he'd ever become Speaker of the House because he wasn't I don't know, he wasn't well enough known.
• 5:19
  Speaker 2: He didn't have that flamboyance that a lot of the people who wind up becoming speakers have.
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: He just seemed like a regular guy, and so I think he'll be a good speaker, as long as he keeps his feet on the ground, yeah Well the good news is, and I just wonder, you know you don't know what God's providence is, but it sure seems like the right guy for my standpoint, just the way he went right into prayer.
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: He, you know, when you think about how evil works in the world, you know, when you have someone in power in your country, you could see the good they could bring in, you could see the evil they bring in, and right away he goes to God.
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: You know, he seemed to mean it, he seemed to, and everybody that commented on it said yeah, that's who he is.
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: And the other thing I really liked about him is he's a constitutional lawyer, and I guess you know that's his thing.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: You know is to uphold the Constitution.
• 6:13
  Speaker 1: If there's two things that tie in together directly, it's really our founding fathers, our founding documents, and and they have to do with faith.
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: You know, I was just reading again.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: One of our foremost constitutional theorists of the founding generation, john Adams, observed this our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people.
• 6:37
  Speaker 1: It's wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
• 6:40
  Speaker 1: And he wasn't the only one.
• 6:41
  Speaker 1: Our another founding father was James Madison.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: James Madison who wrote that our Constitution requires sufficient virtue among men for self government.
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: Otherwise, nothing less than the change of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: And so that's it, mike Johnson.
• 6:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I hope you can keep it up to your point, but he seems like he's cut out of that same cloth.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think I think the other good sign is that Education week has come out and warned people about the dangers of this guy.
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, good point he said educate.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: Educators should should know about Mike Johnson, the new speaker of the house, is something that they came out with, said he's and he was.
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: He introduced and supported Banning instruction about gender identity and sexuality for children under age 10, right transgender girls from joining girls athletic teams, and so this group if this group thinks he's not a good one for to be a speaker, that I'm all in favor of him.
• 7:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, it's amazing right so yeah.
• 7:48
  Speaker 1: So here we get back to what I just read, right, a religious and a moral people and a virtuous people, and you could see why we have the.
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: We're in the predicament to where we are.
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: You know, we have just lost that we.
• 8:00
  Speaker 1: We've lost that moral compass of ours.
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: And and another thing they talked about, of course, was abortion rights he's gonna take away our women's reproductive rights.
• 8:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the great mullah just wants to eat, you know, and eat babies.
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: Right, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's almost orwellian, plus plus plus.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: It's like orwell and Huxley, they, they, they.
• 8:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know if they dreamed this bad.
• 8:24
  Speaker 1: It could get this crazy.
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: When you see this mutilation of actual body parts of young people, it's, it's amazing.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: Then then they attack them for social security.
• 8:35
  Speaker 1: Now listen to these words.
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: Right, they said there's fear out there right now.
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: He may slowly move retirement age to 70.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean, my god in heaven, you know, if, if we don't move it up to 70, then everybody that's that's below our age is never gonna get it.
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: You know, I mean that's 70 is not a big deal anymore.
• 8:56
  Speaker 1: Right again when they made it 65 in the beginning, or whatever it was.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: I think it was 65 right from the beginning.
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: That was, that was the.
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: That was the age limit.
• 9:05
  Speaker 1: That's when most people died it that was the normal age, and and so nobody expected people to be hanging around till they're 90 and 100 years old.
• 9:14
  Speaker 1: So I mean, this is just common sense, right?
• 9:18
  Speaker 2: If you're healthy, you know.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: If you're healthy, why should you even retire at that age?
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: I I'm officially retired, I'm 76, but I'm still doing things.
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: It's not like I stopped doing stuff.
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: Well, here's another one, and and God forbid this one To this he wants to dismantle the regulatory state.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: This was a honest of goodness.
• 9:42
  Speaker 1: I think I heard that on a view.
• 9:43
  Speaker 1: My wife watches the view and I Almost get sick to my stomach when I walk in there and I listen to them.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: But I, but I do it and I listen to them always, for I don't know, maybe two, three minutes every couple of days or so, just to make sure that they're still insane.
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: And of course they are.
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: But this is what somebody on there said they, god forbid right, they're gonna dismantle the regulatory state.
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: What a sin.
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: In other words, god, they're gonna.
• 10:11
  Speaker 1: You know, he wants to put God in, he wants to follow the Constitution, he wants to save Social Security, wants to take Marxism out and he wants to dismantle all our Regulatory state.
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: And it's amazing.
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: And they said this time he said don't be fooled by this guy on the outside, he's a demon and he hates us.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is the other thing that they've got in here says it's amazing he wants to curtail federal funding for entity any entity that teaches that the United States is fundamentally racist.
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: In other words, it should be perfectly okay for entities that and people should be teaching that the United States is fundamentally racist.
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and why, and the federal government should pay for that.
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: This is just, oh my god.
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: Well, you know why why does your wife watch the view?
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: You know what that's.
• 11:02
  Speaker 1: I ask her that all the time because she says she doesn't like them.
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: So she, she has a travel business.
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: Here's in her defense.
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: There's a show that she does watch before it comes on and it's in the background.
• 11:14
  Speaker 1: And when I come down, usually around the same time, around nine, I don't know, maybe nine o'clock or something like that, and she's downstairs working and I'm upstairs working most of the time and, anyways, when I go downstairs it's on.
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: And she said it just comes on after this other show.
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: And I think she's, and I believe her, tom, I kind of believe her because I never saw her actually looking at the television screen.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: So, all right, well, here's, here's what it brought up to me.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I let's, let's, let's talk about craziness, and I want to talk about craziness today because this is insane, all this stuff is.
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to look at everything as being insane.
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: When you start to sexualize young people, groom them, and nobody cares.
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: When you start to pornography to six, seventh and and six and seven year olds and eight year olds and talk to them about fisting and anal sex and and or.
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: I mean you know it's so disgusting.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: We got banned from the library because we're showing people we didn't tell them what to believe or what not to believe, what books were good, what books were bad.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: We just read a couple excerpts, excerpts from some books and show people how to look them up for themselves.
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: That's what we did.
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: We showed them how to do it themselves and and just say, so that you can, you can decide Is this something you want to show your kids, right?
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: Well, here's what happens now.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: So it.
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: So they come down on us because they're afraid we're gonna.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: We're gonna be for book bans, right, and Democratic lawmakers now this is an article democratic lawmakers privately Negotiate with the nation's largest teachers union to craft the bill intended to combat bans of sexually explicit books and schools.
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: So they're calling just like we have here with our wonderful governor in Illinois a ban against book bans.
• 12:59
  Speaker 1: And, and again, what they do is they try to twist this into your Nazis.
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: Just, these are exact words.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: From where the words from Pritzker, right, we're Nazis, fascists, haters and whatever else he was throwing out there.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, when you, when I listen to these people, tom, I never hear them actually come up with a reason that we should be showing pornography to six and seven and eight year olds, do you?
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, they never say, they never answer the question when we ask them.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: I no, they don't.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: It's just they have a right to know these things.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: They have a right to, like Pritzker said, to different perspectives and even in this effort to write this bill to ban book banning nationally, they don't have a reason why that should happen, other than the librarians know what should be there, the librarians.
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: They have master's degrees, according to these people.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, and on top of that they are enticing them by saying if you with $500 million in funding, so in other words, they have to pay these libraries not to ban books.
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and a 500 million includes funding for liability protection to school librarians and educators for providing sexually explicit books.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: So here we go, we're setting up a fund, we are setting it up as taxpayers.
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: We are pouring millions up to the tune of 500 million to start with here, and we know there's money before and afterwards coming in.
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: This is the bill authorizes this 500 million dollars.
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: They want, and it's amazing because they know people are gonna come push back.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: So our own money is paying for lawyers and then we gotta go out and hire our own lawyer and pay again.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: It's a rat race, Tom.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: At the end, and to your point, I'll just read that one part.
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: So Governor Pritzker, just to your point, says no, we have to keep these sexually explicit books in because everybody has a right to read them.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: And in the set of saying why, he just says to your point that these are experts.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: We hire the experts to put these in.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: And an example is American Library Association President Emily Drabinski was recently asked about the role of librarians Now listen to her answer in curating books with sexually explicit content.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Now you think she'd answer the question right, she says how does she answer the question?
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Librarians are professionals.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: We have master's degrees.
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: That's the answer.
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: We're professionals.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: That's why we show sex to your kids because we're experts and we have a master's degree.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: And the master's degree must have been in sexology and teaching them how to be how to show.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is again.
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: I think we're just in an insane world.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: It is the idea that somebody with a master's degree is better equipped to decide what your child should read than you are is.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: I can't even I have no response to that.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: What do they?
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: know about your child.
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: What do they know about?
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: anything really.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: What I've learned, tom, is I've gotten higher.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: Just over the years you know, taking more and more classes and studying more and more things.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: You get to know more and more things.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I think one good thing about myself studying more and taking, like I said, more classes and working on more degrees is do you realize how little you know when you get a degree?
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: You know Because otherwise we look at, we hear a comment like that about a librarian and I'm saying this for any parents listening that they have a master's degree.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: It doesn't mean squat.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, if I'm standing there I would just say that doesn't mean squat.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: You know again.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: You know, if you have a PhD in, say, doctor of education, just let them know it means psychological head disorder and that's exactly what it means.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: That's what it stands for.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I have never met a PhD in education that at least that got that PhD within the last decade that was not off the rocker to some degree.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And maybe there are, and I hope I meet one day that has some belief in anything other than themselves.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Well, too many people are getting degrees just so they can have the degree as a credential, but in reality is that the more people learn who really learn, the more they begin to realize how little they know.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's exactly, yeah, that's exactly the more you learn, the more you learn about what you don't know, and so you become less confident that you have all the answers.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: These people, really we have people on both sides of the issue today who are threatened by debating the issue.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: If you really want to learn the truth, then you should always be open to hearing other perspectives, and hearing them respectfully, not in a way that you can just put people down, and that's what's happening.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Look at what happened to us.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: They didn't even ask us what our position was.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: They didn't even contact us before we were banned.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: They just simply said your position is wrong, before they even heard it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: They only heard our position through the mouth of somebody who came there, clearly, who hated us.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And really didn't really hate us but hate what we stood for, which, again, was this free speech.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just the first amendment, that's all it was.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: It's just free speech.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: To be able to have a dialogue to your point with parents.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: Look at, we didn't invite parents there.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: That agreed with us.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: We invited all parents to come and see for themselves what's going on and to look at them up, look up those books for themselves.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You know, we weren't making a judgment call there.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: We weren't there to tell people what to think or what to say.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: So at the end it gets back to my point and again I think this is something we need to do is continue to ask For specifics.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: What, what age are you talking about?
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: You know what do we show kids and what?
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: To your earlier point what gives you the right, because you have a master's degree Did to know better than I do for my own children, and it's preposterous.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Parents have to go back and understand that they're the primary educators of their children.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: It's their responsibility to bring the you know to John Adams and Madison's a point, to make them moral people, the virtuous people you know how, religious or not, that's up to you.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's a hard thing to teach people subjective truth and morality and virtues without some belief in God.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: But if you can do it, it's better than it's better than the alternative that we're facing right now well, yeah, I.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: I Wonder how these people, how the teachers union, how the American Library Association, how how these different legislators can can, in good conscience, justify meeting in secret hmm, for the specific purpose of ensuring that sexually explicit books will be in libraries.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Why are they doing that?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: What is the need for that to be there?
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we know there is no need people failing in sex.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: It's not even a subject in school.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Well, here's, here's.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So you bring up an important point, so let's, let's answer that question.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Right, I've come to realize, you know, if I'm all the speaking and all the time out with people, that there's, this is a hydra, so there's, it's a multi current head of evil, right?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So we have hydra courses, that that's.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: You know that that head with so many serpents, right?
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: So it's, it's, it's got 20, 30 heads of serpents coming at you.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Right, it's a.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: It's a scary looking thing and that's what's happening right now.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: There's so many currents, but for everybody listening, all these lbgtq Ideologies, the CRT, the DEI, all of these things, seo, they're all wound down to Pornography so that they can show pornography to your kids.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: Now, look at, pornography is not the end all and it's not gonna be, you know, getting rid of, even if we got rid of pornography, which we're not gonna do, but even if we did, that's not the end all.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: But think about what we're just talking about, tom.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Why do they discuss these things?
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Why do they want this stuff in the schools?
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Because when you take the lbgtq books that we're sure that we're, that are in there right now, they're all sexualizing kids, they're all changing and distorting the way they are, then they hide behind the cover of this and, and you know, with it, with saying that you know you can't come out.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: You're a hater, you're this, you're that.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, what, what's, what's really the product that they're pushing down under kids is pornography.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: And and why is that?
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Because they know that everybody can get addicted to pornography.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Everybody's mind can get twisted and distorted by pornography.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: They know children are In an early age, right here, an early age where their reason we talked about this on the last show and you put it in your article, different perspectives that their reason, their capability to reason, is not been fully developed.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: It's not even close yet.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: They're learning at that time.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: There we call them dependents.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And we call them dependents because they're dependent on their parents and their families to to feed them, to house them, to educate them and then to make sure that they know what it means to be a good human being.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: And I had somebody say to me Again, looking at pornography, I said why?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: I said look underneath this.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I said what you're showing them?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Oral sex, anal sex, this why would you do that?
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: And you're a hater if you don't?
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Because you're against the lbg.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: And I said no, no, no.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: I said stop talking about lbgtq.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: This is, this is just taking these ideologies, bringing them into the classroom so that you guys can sexualize and groom and Our kids.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: And why is that?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Because it's mass produced.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: We're at the point now we're at almost a hundred percent Exposure, with young men between eight and seventeen, almost a hundred percent exposure to hardcore porn.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: You know it's amazing what they do and once you, once you get people to that, you're enslaved to the, to this and and you're not gonna stand up against this.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: So if I'm addicted to porn, I don't.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: I there's no way I'm going to school board meetings and pushing back on this.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: You know there's no way I'm pushing back on these ideologies and so you talk about.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: You know, courage in general is scarce today.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Truth is scarce today.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I'm certainly not going to stand up if I'm, if I'm addicted to porn and or any of these other things, right, so it's amazing but just keep it that it might also Keep it in mind.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: If the people, the people wind up becoming addicted to porn very often take the attitude that it's a good thing.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: They, they don't see it as a problem.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: No, that's it is as something that is is good.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: So they will actually fight in favor of of keeping keeping these materials and in schools.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if the governor is addicted to porn because he thinks it's perfectly okay.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Well, I have no doubt that he's got his issues right, otherwise there's no way you're gonna be pushing this down on kids.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And, to your point and We've made this many, many times parents need to get to their kids before the schools do, and this is why they push it down Earlier and earlier.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: If they could get this down before puberty is when most kids, if they're gonna learn anything from their parents or from their church About sex and sexuality, about the biology and also the theology, what's the meaning of purpose behind it it's not gonna happen until they're into about fifth grade.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: And so if they can get to the kids before fifth grade, they'll do exactly what you said, tom.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: They're gonna get to the kids and make it okay.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, before the parents get to them.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: So now if the parents not the expert, the teachers become the expert, and they were gonna learn from them, and then it's too late.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: I found this with the guys that I met that are trying to get out of porn addictions.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: It's very difficult if the parents haven't got to the kids first and they've become addicted to porn, and you can get addicted to porn pretty easy.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: It's amazing and it really it changes the plastic.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: You know your brain is moldable, that neural pathways will change.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: When you study brains of young people that have been on porn for a while, they change.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: You could see them in studies, so it's not an easy thing to get out of.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Well, look at that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Look at the TikTok video that you sent me about that preschool teacher talking about discussing with her class the children's gender identities and other people's gender identities and their genitals, but what they're this is in three and four year old kids that she's talking about this so this is kind of why.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Why are you talking to three and four year old kids about stuff like this?
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and if you think about it now, with these college kids that you see, you know really lost their lost causes.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: But it's not always their fault, right, our parents should have gave us some formation and they haven't, right?
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: So they let their children out like lambs to the slaughter.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: And when you leave them to choose their own value system children, you choose how you're gonna grow up.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I've talked to many, many people that said no, I don't bring my kid to church, I'm gonna let him choose.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: I said this kid's seven years old.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: I said you know what kind of moron are you.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: You know I mean what kind?
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Of moron are you?
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, you know, when I was six, seven, eight, 20, was even today.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: Am I qualified?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Do you feel qualified, tom, just to come off the top of your head, even at your age, what you know, to make up your own value system?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: You know, I you know, I would change that thing every day you know, depending on how what I ate for breakfast this morning, you know.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, we have to find the truth.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Well, however you feel, however you feel is what's gonna come out.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: And that's exactly what they do today.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: They're told that, right.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: They're told whatever you feel, that's your value system and look what happens, right.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: And they're teaching children that their gender, their sexuality, is based on how they feel.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: At a very early age, they're teaching kids this, which is it just makes absolutely no sense to me at all.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Why would you, why would you even consider letting a child decide who he is or what he is?
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Hey, tom, you know, as we wind up here, you know Libs of Tic-Toc right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: So she she's done.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: For our listeners who don't know her, she's done some incredible work.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, I would recommend look up Libs of Tic-Toc.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: She's on a number of different social media sites.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I think she's got her own sub stack too.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I usually find something from her on X.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: But she's amazing woman and what she does is she simply exposes video.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: She just takes video clips of actual people and what they say and what they do and, like a mirror, holds them up to the public.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: That's all she does.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: She, you know, in the beginning she wasn't making any commentary about it.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: She would just say take a look at this, take a look at this, the insanity.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: So she won an award.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: The resilience award, as stated by the independent women's forum, this is just recently recognizes a woman or a man who exhibits bravery, courage, inner strength and helps create stronger, more vibrant communities by encouraging more respectful dialogue and civic engagement.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: So her, her name is how do you pronounce her?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Her name?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Tom, do you know?
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Her actual name.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I was just looking at a briar briar or something.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, and so I'm going to just call her Libs of Tic-Toc, right?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: She humbly took to the stage to accept the award, winning the award, saying this how did a girl from Brooklyn wind up here tonight winning an award?
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: In front of hundreds of people and during her speech and I say this to people because you know, people feel overwhelmed, but this woman such I didn't know anything.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And so here's what she said about two and a half years ago, with zero background in politics, zero background in media, zero background in journalism, I created an anonymous Twitter or ex account called Libs of Tic-Toc.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: I would share videos of radical leftists and activists.
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: In their own words, I simply held a mirror up to what they were saying, and she elaborated on the current state of society and how it affects the lives of women.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: She said this we live in a world where large proportion of the population doesn't know right from wrong, where Supreme Court justice doesn't know the meaning of the word woman, where medical professionals think men can get pregnant.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks to the work of independent women's forums and many of you in this room, change and sanity is finally on the horizon.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Isn't this amazing, tom, that you know?
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: It wasn't long ago, before Elon Musk got involved and people started to launch their own you know, their own platforms, very small at first, that none of this got out.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: All we were hearing is the bull and this really distorted evil from these madmen who were actually and we know this for a fact now.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: And we know what happened with X.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: We know what happened with Facebook, instagram, of course, and in Google that the government was involved in censoring, weren't they?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Well, it's Chaya Raycheck, by the way, not Raya, Okay.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: It's.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Chaya Raycheck.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: I have dyslexia.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, thank you for that.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Thank you for that.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: She's an amazing woman, isn't she?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: She's very, yeah, very really.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: She's done a great service there for everybody by starting lives at TikTok so we could see people in their in their own words, that they can condemn themselves with their own words.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, right.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: And she said the media gave me credit for influencing various laws, including banning sex change surgeries for minors, banning sexual adult themed entertainment for children, removing gender ideology from schools.
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: So she has some success.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Now we live in the belly of the beast here in Illinois, so if that ever happens here, you know it's gonna take a miracle, but this is the way I'd like to say to leave people with.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: But most of all, she spoke to the mindset that keeps her going day in and day out.
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: She said this find your resilience, find your strength.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: So when you leave here tonight, I want you to remember that you have the strength within yourself to stand up for the truth, and just about the time you feel like giving up, that's exactly the time that you need to fight back even harder.
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: What a woman, right?
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: What a woman to do that, and I think we all take that advice.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: I think we'd be able to make the world a better place, huh.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: All right, and I think that the real need is that is, that people need to be advised of what's going on, because most people are Completely clueless about it.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: But what will actually think we're?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Most people actually think we're trying to ban books.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Most people think that what we're saying is being taught in schools is not.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Is not being taught in schools.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's true.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I mean the hardest thing that we've we found is trying to wake up parents.
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: What it is we as we?
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Here's your fight.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: You have the final word on this time.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Why do you think you have it?
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Do you have a theory for this?
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Why do you think all these people are got their heads up there?
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: You know what well, because they they have a Bias toward believing teachers believe believing teachers want the best for children, and I think that may be true, but they don't understand that the teachers have very little control over what's being taught in the classrooms and they also have very little control over other teachers that are hired by the school districts.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: And there was one clip that I saw where this Psychologist said that he had he worked with a number of these teachers that were involved in in pushing this Agenda, the sexual agenda on the children, and he said that he found them to be their tenured teachers there and yet they are Totally unhealthy, he said so unhealthy, so untrustworthy, that he wouldn't trust them to water his plants, much less gosh, I'm mighty, it's not, and so there's a lot of teachers that are in schools that are like that.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: I think most teachers care about it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I think that there's teachers who are leaving the profession because they don't like what's going on, yeah, and so there there's a decline in the number of teachers that are in there.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: There's there's problems with bullying.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: There's problems with bullying of teachers.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, children are beating teachers up, and can you imagine what they're doing to each other, right?
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can imagine.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you said, like you said, nothing's being done.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: So, hey, you know, tom, you know that the the good news about all this is that crazy faith of ours, that that crazy Christian idea it's real.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: It's real, my friend.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: And if you push God out of the public square, if you push them out of your own heart, this stuff happens over and over.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Actually, I'll tell you what just to leave, leave on a quasi upbeat no for believers, is that, in a way, look at, I don't like evil and I don't like dealing with all this crazy stuff, but it's here and in a way, I'd be disappointed, since we threw God out of our own hearts, we threw God out of our country.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: We we stopped taking our families to church, we start stopped reading the Bible, we stopped believing in anything other than our Moral relativism.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Now, with all that said, if the culture and everything went on fine, if everything went on great and nothing changed, I think maybe we really don't need God.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: So in a way, it's really helped my faith.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: You know I mean it's amazing.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: You know I had a strong faith before, but now I look around and say, oh my gosh, you know, if there's any doubt, my friends just look around, right.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: You know, people need to start looking at the facts rather than trying, rather than believing what they want to believe.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Haha, there you go.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Hey, God bless you, tom.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Good to see you talk to you later oh.