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Turning Tragedy into Purpose: The Story Behind Live Like Braun · Finding New Waters

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With a drunk person driving with a suspended license on probation
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struck and killed him. I think it's important that we
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educate people about the dangers of impaired driving.
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You know, marijuana is legal in many states.
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You can't drive when you take marijuana gummies, bait,
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whatever. You can't drink and drive.
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And if you're taking a bike or a motorcycle or you're walking,
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you also have to think about all those people that are out there
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drinking and driving. All right.
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Welcome back everybody to another edition of Finding New
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Waters, sitting here with our CEO, Justin McClendon.
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And out in California, we have a very special guest today.
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We're very lucky to have her, Jen Levy.
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Welcome, Jen. Thank you.
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Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming on.
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We appreciate you for. Being here and just quickly just
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wanted to say kind of how you ended up being here with us
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today as far as kind of getting you on the on the podcast.
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I, and correct me if I'm wrong, a recent guest who's a friend of
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ours and a friend of New Waters, Greg Champion at startup
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recovery out in the Palisades at Slash Santa Monica, came on the
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show and he was wearing a live like brown hat.
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And I basically just asked him what tell us about your hat.
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And I didn't know. And I'd heard something about
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the story before, but did not know what the hat meant.
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He explained it next. You know, our friend and
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colleague Jen Hogshead, who went to Carolina, has a daughter at
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Carolina, knew your story. Next thing you know, we're
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connected. So that's my version of it.
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Will you tell us? Tell us what, what, what, what
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happened and, and what's going on.
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And you know how people can help you, but start with just kind of
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what happened. Well, if you want to go the very
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beginning, you know we, we raised our family in Pacific
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Palisades, CA for 20 years. We had 20 beautiful, perfect
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storybook years raising our children in the community.
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Then the wildfires hit in January and we lost we lost our
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home, we lost everything. So as a family we moved to the
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South Bay, Manhattan Beach, Hermosa Beach, CA along with
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many, many, many families from the Palisades.
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So our community kind of transplanted together.
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Then unfortunately, about four or five months later, the worst
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thing that could ever possibly happen to a parent, a drunk
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driver hit and killed instantly our 18 year old son, Braun.
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He was just shy of graduating Loyola High School.
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He was set to attend the University of Virginia.
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He was an extraordinary person, student, athlete, friend.
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He led with kindness and inclusivity.
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And we always say beyond the academic and athletic accolades
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that he had, many were most proud of the way he treated
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people and the way he lived his life.
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And his life never should have been taken from him.
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And it's the worst. It's the worst phone call a
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parent can ever receive in their life, and it's the worst pain
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put upon any parent ever. It's just a constant devastation
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and heavy, sad backpack that we're wearing.
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But after he was killed, you know, we made the commitment on
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how we were going to like, grief shape us.
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Were we going to be a victim to it or were we going to do
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something that that actually made us feel better and and made
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the world a better place? And, and that's the way Braun
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would have wanted it, because that's how he lived his life.
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Braun made everything better. He was just magnetic
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personality. Every time he walked into the
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room, it just got better. So we started to live like Braun
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Foundation and that was, it's turned into a movement and it's
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how to live your life, to lead with love, to leave with
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kindness, inclusivity, curiosity.
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Ron was a little bit mischievous and that's a fun thing to throw
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into the mix at all times. But he really cared about other
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people. He saw other people, he saw
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beyond himself. And we are inspiring kids and
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people to live their best life and not not to stand in a
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corner, but but to to be your presence.
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Well, well, thank you for sharing that, and I'm so sorry
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for your loss. I mean, I, I, their words, you
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know, they don't do anything here.
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But be remiss if I didn't say it.
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And one thing, you know, when we talked the first time we spoke
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briefly about you coming on was just how we commend you for not
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curling up in a ball and just isolating and hoping the pain
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goes away. And what you're what you
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immediately you and your family and Bronze Orbit set out to do
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was to get into action and immediately saw that sitting
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still wasn't going to do any good.
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But being able to be an advocate and be of help and of service
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and be able to share this experience with people was going
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to be able to help others and you in the process.
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So that's that's amazing. Well, I I I do want to be clear
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that there are some days and hours where I'm curled up into a
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ball with a wave of grief that feels just inhumane.
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Yeah. I mean.
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How could you not? I mean, yeah.
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I mean, I can't imagine. I mean, being a parent myself, I
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just, I cannot imagine the the pain and the loss that you guys
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have suffered. So as B said in all of our
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condolences, we're very sorry for your loss.
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So what is? Go ahead.
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I was just saying it's a fight. It's a fight every day to find
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joy and to live a productive life and to live a life without
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Braun and to live a life Braun would have wanted us to live.
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And I I say that the worst day of my life has now turned into
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my life's work. I love that.
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Yeah, turning pain into purpose is starting to get a little old
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for me. I was, I was like, I can't say
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that anymore. It because what's really true is
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the worst day of our life is now my life's work.
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And I do that in honor of bronze legacy.
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And I also do it for our 20 year old daughter who is beautiful
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and has a bright future ahead of her.
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And it's unfair to her, too. How is she doing?
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I think she's doing remarkably well.
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She's she's at the University of North Carolina and she's
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excelling. She's got a great group of
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friends. She's doing the best you can
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hope for. I mean, she's a young person.
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She's 20 years old. And her brother was, like, her
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twin. They were 20 months apart and
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the best of friends. So she's doing the best you can
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hope for. Yeah.
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Well, I'm not going to pretend to understand what you're going
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through and you and your family, but I do know that in my, in my,
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from my own personal experience and the experience of millions
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of other people, been able to share our, you know, our
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experience, our strength and our hope is, you know, I wouldn't be
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alive without being able to do that.
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You know, and I've been to some dark places, but not nothing
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like this. So I, but I, but I, I just again
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want to commend you on, on the work you're doing and you know
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it. I see.
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I've, I mean, I, when Greg was on here with his hat, once he
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explained it, I was, and I knew what he was talking about.
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I mean it, it's everywhere. And I, I mean, I used to be a
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big, big tennis fan. I played, you know, some
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competitive tennis. I played in high school, played
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some tournaments and I used to be really into watching it.
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And I don't watch as much anymore, but in a little bit of
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watching I was doing over the summer, I mean, I was seeing
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live like bronze. So you're doing good work and
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it's, it's everywhere. And that's that's the point.
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So what all entails? The foundation?
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What are? What are you doing exactly?
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Well, first of all, I think a lot of it is Braun.
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He was such a magnetic person and he had so many friends.
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There was a there's a Harvard study that was recently
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released. You know what makes people
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popular or likable? And it's that they like
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everybody and Braun liked everybody.
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It's amazing, the foundation. Once we created the Live Like
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Bronze mantra and hats and merch, it snowballed into this
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movement and this inspiration for people and kids to take
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chances, to live their life, to go for it, not to be scared, to
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be compassionate, to see other people, to lead with kindness
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and love. And I'm so proud of of the way
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it's taken. It's taken off.
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And that's all Braun because people that knew Braun are
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inspired by him. And I, I hope maybe this is
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Braun's way of guiding me through grief, that we now have
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a movement that's hitting the country, especially on college
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campuses. And I get texts and pictures and
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emails and DMS everyday about people saying, you know, I did
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this because I was wearing a live like Bron hat.
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And I thought Bron would do this.
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And I can do this because Live like Bron.
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And I love that. I think that's so inspiring.
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And I think that's what the world needs right now.
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Yeah, I couldn't agree more, that's for sure.
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I think as you just mentioned, I think the world could could use
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a lot more of that. So that, that is absolutely
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amazing. Well, tell us a little bit about
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the go ahead. I was going to say, you wanted
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to learn a little bit more about the foundation, right?
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Yeah. So the foundation was set up
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with a few different arms. 1 is to continue the movement live
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like Braun, the inspiration for people.
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Another arm is to provide academic scholarships to kids
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graduating from high school that want to go on to postgraduate
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work, and not necessarily just a four year undergrad program, but
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kids who want to go to the locational school or trade
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school or Community College. Because four year college isn't
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meant, four year college undergrad program isn't meant
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for everyone. So we're looking to identify
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teenagers who are passionate, who live like Braun, who share
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the same qualities as Braun, that have an academic dream or a
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plan, but they need a little bit of academic assistance.
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And that's what we're here to do.
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We're also donating to other charities.
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That felt organic to Braun. He spent a lot of time as a
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counselor at Rad Camp, which was a is a camp for kids that have
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Down syndrome. And then we're also raising
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awareness of drunk driving. And not only don't drink and
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drive, which I feel like our society knows, you don't drink
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and drive, right? There's Ubers, there's Lyfts,
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there's cell phones. You can call people, but also
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you need to be defensive. Ron walked home the night he was
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killed. And he walked home because he
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thought that that was the safe option to do.
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I called him at 12:15 and said, time to come home, time to start
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thinking about coming home. And he said, all good, I'm going
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to walk home. And I thought, great, he's
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walking home. He walked home with a group of
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kids and he, I don't, I don't think any of them thought, oh,
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well, we're walking home. But there's drunk people all
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over the place. There's drunk people driving
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every day, doesn't matter what time of day.
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And that's what happened. A drunk person driving with a
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suspended license on probation struck and killed him.
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So I think it's really, really important that we, I think it's
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important that we educate people about the dangers of impaired
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driving. You know, marijuana is legal in
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many states. You can't drive when you take
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marijuana gummies, bait, whatever.
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You can't drink and drive. And if you're taking a bike or a
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motorcycle or you're walking, you also have to think about all
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those people that are out there drinking and driving.
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So exactly and without having an opinion on anything, I just know
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that our country's drunk driving laws are very loose compared to
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some of our kind of western other western counterparts.
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I mean, I think in Australia you go, I mean 11 DUI, I mean,
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you're, you're in prison. I mean, in in Europe similar.
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And this is coming from somebody who got 2 Duis when I was 20
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years old in 1997, something I'm not proud of, but I'll share it
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here. And another incident, I totaled
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a car after I've been drinking and nobody, nobody was hurt, not
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even me, that there was just my car involved.
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But you know, it's something that I've there that I think
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about all the time and especially now talking to you.
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And I do think that it's and and the irony is it's easier than
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ever to get a ride. Uber's kind of cabs have existed
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forever, but self there's just no excuse anymore, not that
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there ever was, but there is literally no excuse now and but
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then, but even to but to your point, you know, he was doing
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the right thing and walking home and not driving and it's still
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there. We are, you know, and again,
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without having to try not have an opinion on it.
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I mean, it sounds like, you know, the, the, the our laws
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probably are too loose and people are like this person
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suspended license on probation out there driving.
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I mean, yeah. Well I I have big opinions on
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it. I'm sharing, you bring it.
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Well, we live in California. The drunk driving or DUI with
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deaths is up 44% since 2019 in California, and that's gross.
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Yeah, significant. One of the issues is the the
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lenient laws in California and it's my goal and it's my life's
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work to have DUI sentencing reform in California and to
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require the Watson warning to be read to any reckless behavior.
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What's that woman who so the I'm, again, I'm not a lawyer.
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So anyone out there listening you is going crazy, 'cause I'm
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not saying something right, I apologize.
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But the Watson warning is read to somebody who gets a DUI that
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says you are a danger and if you go out and drink and drive again
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and something happens, you can be charged with murder.
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Basically. That's kind of layman's terms.
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The woman who killed Bron, she had a previous DUI, but it was
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made into a plea deal, hit and run misdemeanor with no Watson
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warning. That's, in my opinion, bogus and
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insulting and people don't care if their license is suspended.
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They have checkpoints around Hermosa Beach and Manhattan
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Beach and Redondo Beach various Saturday nights for two or three
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hours and they get 1011 suspended licenses.
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They get quite a few Duis and that's just in two hours.
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So I feel that the laws need to be much stricter.
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They need to be like Australia, a bigger deterrent so that
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people think twice. There's also been, I work with
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MAD and I went to Washington, DC for the 45th anniversary and
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there is a, a law called the Hall to Act, which has been
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passed but not implemented by the automotive industry.
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And that is, there are there, it exists artificial intelligence
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that goes in cars that when you put your hands on the wheels and
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you look forward and you breathe, it can tell if you're
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impaired and if the car won't start.
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So that exists that, that, that that technology exists.
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It just has not been implemented yet.
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And that could have saved my son's life.
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And that's really frustrating to me.
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I mean, it could, and it some people argue that it's a privacy
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issue, but Mad doesn't care. What all the all Matt cares
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about is that the car won't start.
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You're not getting reported. You're not getting reported for
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trying to drive drunk. We're just happy the car won't
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start. Yeah.
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And I'm with you on that, right. I mean, regardless of the
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technology or changes in laws, I mean, I think that that I mean
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that is obviously the goal, right.
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I mean to, to reduce the amount of people that are out there
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driving impaired that could potentially cause some, some
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really bad things to happen. Jen, I'm curious, you mentioned
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not to change the subject, but you mentioned trying to educate
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individuals more along the lines of like what your son was doing,
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like you know, even though you're making the right
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decision, being aware that there's a danger out there.
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I wonder what you guys are doing or, or kind of what that side of
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it looks like. I'm curious about that.
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Well, I'm working with CHP and our local law enforcement on
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educate on education programs at high schools.
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So we're, and we're trying to get into high schools and talk
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about not only impaired and drunk driving, but defense being
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defensive because I think that that's something that has not
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been hit over the head. And I, every day, I, every day
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I, I, I kick myself for, because when I was on the phone with
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Ron, when he said I'm going to walk home, why didn't I say, OK,
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well, be really careful or really look both ways or maybe
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can I just come and get you? Or why don't you take an Uber
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instead of walking? And I, I'm so mad at myself for
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not, you know, as parents, that's what we do all the time,
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Like look both ways or, you know, be careful or, you know,
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be cautious if you're on a boat, you know, be care.
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You know, we're always telling our kids to be careful and make
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and make smart decisions. And Ron did make a smart
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decision. He walked home.
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It was somebody else that didn't make a smart decision.
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And I wish I would have been able to say to him, hey, listen,
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you're making a smart decision, but there's people out there
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that aren't. Yeah, exactly.
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So when you say defense, being defensive, other than what you
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just said, which is kind of the obvious, which you know great
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parents like yours and mine and Justin's tell us to look both
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ways. Like what else is?
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What else is entailed there with being defensive?
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I mean, there's a lot of things that going to be defensive for
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grown-ups, college kids, teenagers.
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You know, there's a huge drinking culture.
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And just because you're not driving, you still need to be
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aware of, you know, what are you drinking?
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Did somebody put something in your drink?
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What are you taking? It could be laced fentanyl.
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Maybe defensive is the wrong word.
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You. I just think kids need and
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adults need to be overly cautious and overly aware
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because it's a scary place out there right now.
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That I mean, that's what I think of when I hear the word
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defensive, I think about the first thing that comes up is
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like a defensive driving course, right?
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Like, you know, so being on the lookout, not trusting that other
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people are going to do the right thing that but we're going to
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make sure we're not going to take somebody's word.
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So I feel like the word is very fitting.
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Another thing that came up when you were talking, you were
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talking about college kids and like the the drinking culture
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around that. I mean, there's so many nuances
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and facets, but even if somebody else is like, hey, I'll drive
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like knowing or at least having the courage to like ask that
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person, have they been drinking? And you know, I guess this is
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something I haven't spent a lot of time thinking about until
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right now in this conversation. But I guess there's just,
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there's a ton of stuff that I mean, you really just need to be
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aware of and asking questions and not making assumptions, I
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guess, right? Yeah, you have to have the
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confidence and to, you know, say to somebody, hey, you had a
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beer. Like, no, no worries, don't
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drive. We'll take an Uber or we'll walk
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or, but also the halt act, you know, would have that technology
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and cars, eventually all cars. We hope that the car just
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wouldn't start so nobody has to confront anybody.
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Yeah, I mean, I love that idea, person.
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Yeah, me too. I do too, and I'm just hoping
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that the automakers implement it.
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I don't. I'm sure it's out there, but I
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can't imagine who is lobbying to not have this implemented.
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Right. I mean, it, you would think it's
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as simple as like, hey, it's it's illegal to perform this act
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with this machine essentially like, so if you're impaired, you
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should be allowed to, you should be allowed to start it, right.
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I mean, it seems like a a short journey to get to that, yeah.
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I think the. Defense attorney industry, I
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guess I'm being honestly, that's probably the only thing I can
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think of. Well, I think one of the
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arguments is cost. It's an additional cost, but
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it's not, it's not a big cost when it's amortized over many
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cars in years. And it's a privacy issue, right?
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I mean, I think with AI there's a lot of privacy issues.
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But again, I like I said, MAD doesn't want you reported.
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MAD doesn't care what you look like or anything.
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They just want to make sure that that card doesn't start.
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And if it doesn't start, you're not getting reported, your car's
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just not starting. Yeah.
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Were there any foundations you sort of modelled what what Live
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Like Braun is like, or with inspirations or people you've
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been able to connect with and get advice from?
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Yeah, You know, it's been a runaway train.
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And we are taking our time and we are doing it with intention
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and integrity and making it feel organic to Braun.
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And we're still learning as we go.
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We're still in the very early stages.
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I'm still early stages of my grief.
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There are some foundations. There's the teak fellowship that
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is about 20 or 30 years old now. And the woman who started it,
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I've turned to her many times to say, am I doing the right thing?
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Am I moving too slow? Am I moving too fast?
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And we're just doing what feels right and trying to get as many
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people to support us as possible because there's, there's many
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different parts to live like Braun, right?
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It's the inspiration of how to live.
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It's DUI awareness and making change.
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And then there's raising money so that we can give
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scholarships, which will start doing this spring to graduating
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seniors. And I'm so excited for that.
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I'm so excited to give gifts to children or to kids aren't
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they're not really children, right?
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They're 18. But I'm so excited to start
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being able to give back. We're also looking at helping
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rebuilding the tennis courts at Altadena and Pacific Palisades,
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which were all destroyed by the wildfires.
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And those sports recreation centers, which are so important
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to kids growing up, need to be rebuilt.
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So we would like to be a part of that, too.
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You know, Bronze spent his whole life growing up at public tennis
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courts, public Recreation Center, playing basketball,
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soccer. It's a big part of kids need
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that. Absolutely.
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They definitely. Do I love that you also make a
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point in terms of the scholarship funding that this is
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not specifically just for four year colleges, but for trade
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school, Community College that you, I think you said it's not
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for everybody. And that's becoming more and
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more apparent as as time goes on.
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And it would be, you know, it seemed like the logical step
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with your son who was going to go play Division One tennis.
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You have a daughter at the University of North Carolina to
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to just sort of continue in that that that that trajectory.
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But just to say, you know what this is, this is to help people.
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This is not to try to, you know, kind of help, you know, with by
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giving them funding to have them do kind of what we want them to
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do more like what makes the most sense for them.
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I love that. Exactly, and that's something we
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always did with our children was, you know, find your
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passion, do what you want, you know or what?
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And by the way, kids passion changes all the time, but we
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were always promoting if you do what you like.
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Exactly. And are you personally, are you
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still in Manhattan Beach now? So we are in Hermosa Beach in a
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rental house and we are rebuilding our home in Pacific
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Palisades and we're moving along.
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And it's, it's, it's bittersweet.
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It, it's I, I can't, I don't even understand what what has
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happened in my life. You know, my entire community
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and home and all our memories, our baby videos, all our
26:01
pictures of Braun and our daughter.
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Everything is destroyed. And then we moved to a temporary
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home. And we always had the mantra,
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it's OK, we can replace our home.
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But we're all together. We're alive.
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We've got our family. Home is where your family is.
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We will rebuild. And even Braun took that mantra.
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He when we moved to the South Bay, he got all his friends that
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were displaced from fires. And then he got all his friends
26:27
from the South Bay together and they would do these daily beach
26:31
volleyball games and listen to music.
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And that's how Bronze Port was created as a memorial to what he
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did after the fires. He started to displace person
26:42
support group at his high school.
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He had such a good attitude and I, we all kind of felt OK.
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We were sad that we lost our community, but we knew we could
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rebuild. But then when we actually lost
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Braun, I just, it's just so much loss.
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It's so much loss. I, I I don't even know how to
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categorize it. I hear, you know, when we had
27:11
Greg Champion on here, who, you know, we lost everything in in
27:16
the same fires that you did, you know, and we were talking to
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him. We all kind of agreed that
27:21
that's just stuff. You know, as hard as it is, it's
27:24
easy for me to say that we all kind of were talking about how
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we had been through hurricanes here in North Carolina, but you
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know it. But this was about him and and
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and start up and his his story with the fire.
27:35
But it was all stuff. But then, like you said, I mean,
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the Braun thing is, is not just stuff.
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I mean that's that's your son. And the whole time we were
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talking right now, we've been talking now.
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And the times I've talked to you leading up to this, all I can
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think about is how you're put here for some greater purpose.
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And that's, and that's what you're doing.
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And again, I'm not going to pretend to understand what
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you're going through, but that that's what I see.
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And I think, you know, lots and lots and lots of other people
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see that too. I appreciate you saying that I
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don't feel that way. I'm just don't know any other
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way, you know? I don't want grief.
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I don't want to hide behind grief.
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I don't want to be a victim to it.
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I don't want to start drinking heavily, doing drugs, you know,
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imploding what little life I have left with my, with my
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husband and daughter. I just want to make the life
28:31
that we have now as big and good and bright and hopeful as
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possible because there's no other choice.
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Just it's the only way to survive.
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You know, I'm constantly thinking I have, you know, a, a
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husband and a daughter with a bright future.
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And I, I don't, I don't want to mess anything up for them
28:51
either. And Bron wouldn't want that.
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Bron would want us to lead a meaningful life.
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And I'm I'm trying to figure out what that is.
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Yeah. And I think that's more of that
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same message, right? I mean, to live like live like
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Bron, right, Just to, you know, he would have wanted you guys to
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continue on and to find a way. And, you know, and, and and
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that's, I mean, one of many things I think that are ringing
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loud and clear with, with all of this movement is exactly that,
29:18
right? Like, how can we all just
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capitalize and be the best versions of our self and do good
29:24
for others? And, and again, we started with
29:27
this conversation with the statement that I think, I think
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the world needs more of that. So we really appreciate you
29:33
being the the light and and the shadow of such a massive
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tragedy. Yeah, well said.
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I mean, I was just thinking, you know, I it for me, it could seem
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like if I were in your shoes and I was doing all this for this
29:48
foundation and and advocacy that sometimes I would need to remind
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myself I need to to like you just said, live like Braun also,
29:56
you know, well, what, what? So we touched on kind of the
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scholarship, the the awareness, the foundation.
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Is there anything else you want us to know about Live Like
30:07
Braun? Well, I wish all of you could
30:11
have met Bron and I hope that through following us on
30:15
Instagram and visiting our website, you can learn more
30:19
about him. I'm working on a book called The
30:22
Bronicles, an inspirational book for moms and dads or parents,
30:28
grandparents to read with kids. I just wish everyone would have
30:31
met him, but I think by becoming part of the Live Like Bron
30:36
Foundation, everyone's feeling a bit of bronze magic and, and
30:41
moving that forward. And I hope that people continue
30:44
to support us and follow us. We're just getting started.
30:49
We're just getting started. We have so much to give and to
30:54
do in the space of DUI awareness and prevention that I hope you
31:02
just continue the journey with us.
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That's my my, my greatest hope. On that note, will you tell our
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listeners we're going to post in our show notes and everywhere,
31:14
everywhere we can, all your information and live like Braun,
31:17
but just, you know, so people can hear it as well.
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How does it? How do people find you?
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Well, they can go online to www.livelikebraunbraunfoundation.org.
31:34
You can also go to Instagram and follow live like Braun
31:38
Foundation. You can also follow my
31:42
Instagram, which is Jen Levi JENNLEVI 2016.
31:49
And those are the three places right now.
31:52
If you go to our website, you can scroll through, you can
31:56
cruise the website. You can see all the press we've
31:58
done in the stories, pictures of Braun, part of Braun's personal
32:02
statement that he wrote to Virginia.
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You know, just enjoy, you know, enjoy the experience of getting
32:09
to know Bron. And we really, really appreciate
32:13
everyone who's supporting us and and keeping Bron's legacy alive
32:19
and strong because he was such a great kid.
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He was a really magnetic, special, special kid.
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Well, thank you so much. It's been an honor to have you
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on here today and telling, you know, telling us about Live like
32:36
Bron and your story and we just keep up the good work and thank
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you, thank you, thank you. I really appreciate the
32:44
opportunity. I love the North Carolina
32:47
connection. Thank you for letting me tell
32:51
our story and to talk about Bron.
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Thank you. Thank you, Jen.
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If you liked what you heard today or just want to know more,
32:59
give us a call on 9196708119 or visit us at
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newwatersrecovery.com. Thank you.