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UK Column News — 3rd August 2026 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. It's Monday, third of August twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: You're watching UK column News. I'm your host, Ben Rubin.
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  Speaker 1: I'm delighted to be joining in the studio by mister
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  Speaker 1: Brian Gerrish. I Brian, Hello. It's a pleasure, always a pleasure,
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  Speaker 1: and it's also a pleasure to be joined later on
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  Speaker 1: the show by Katie Joe Murphin via live link from Wales.
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  Speaker 1: So we've got a huge amount going on in the
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  Speaker 1: UK at the moment, a pack show. We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be talking about the dark powers pulling the strings behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes in the country, the data center rollout, which
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  Speaker 1: for my money is going to enslave us to artificial
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  Speaker 1: intelligence that appears to be the direction of travel at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, the assault on local communities right down to
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  Speaker 1: the level of the neighborhood, which we've talked about a
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  Speaker 1: lot extensively. This is the front line of the battle
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  Speaker 1: that we're fighting. We're going to get into that a
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  Speaker 1: bit later on in the show, and in particular we're
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  Speaker 1: going to be having a little look was going on
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  Speaker 1: in that beautiful city just over our shoulder there in Plymouth.
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  Speaker 1: But before we get into that, Brian's got a few
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  Speaker 1: words to say about Andy Burnham and the issue of immigration.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, thank you for that. Well, one of the things
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  Speaker 2: that UK column has been saying to our audience over
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  Speaker 2: the last week or so since the new Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: Burnham has been in post is that this man intends
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  Speaker 2: to destroy the country. We're going to stick with that analysis,
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  Speaker 2: but a lot of what he's going to do he's
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  Speaker 2: going to do very quietly and to most people, they
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  Speaker 2: won't really see what's happening with the sleight of hand. However,
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  Speaker 2: having said that, some of the propaganda around him is
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  Speaker 2: quite overt. So let's switch to the BBC, because of
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  Speaker 2: course that's always good for propaganda, and this was on
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  Speaker 2: their website this morning. Burnham pledges to be relentless in
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  Speaker 2: curbing the small boat crossings. Now, I was very taken
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  Speaker 2: by this image and the background, but first of all,
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  Speaker 2: let's just play the and let the man do his stuff.
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  Speaker 3: The number of crossings is down by fifty percent this
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  Speaker 3: year compared with the same period in twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 3: and the month we've just had July has been the
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  Speaker 3: lowest number for six years of people crossing, so clearly
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  Speaker 3: progress is being made. But We're not complacent and it's
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  Speaker 3: why I am here. It's why I've come down on
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  Speaker 3: Sunday to see the team, to listen to what they
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  Speaker 3: think needs to be done, what further can be done.
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  Speaker 3: So we're just going to be relentless. People want to
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  Speaker 3: see this issue addressed. I heard that on the doorsteps
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  Speaker 3: in Makerfield. But we also need to build a system
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  Speaker 3: that offers safe ruits for people as well, because that
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  Speaker 3: also takes away the selling point of the gangs. So
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  Speaker 3: on every level we've got to come at this, but
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  Speaker 3: crucially increasing the enforcement activity. So there's been a doubling
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  Speaker 3: of enforcement officers through the National Crime Agency on the
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  Speaker 3: UK side of the Channel, and French specialist officers are
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  Speaker 3: now similarly doubled in number working on the beaches over there.
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  Speaker 3: So a big ramping up of activity this summer. It's
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  Speaker 3: having results, but we are not complacent. Much more needs
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  Speaker 3: to be done.
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  Speaker 2: Well there you are? You mentioned somebody as that was running.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I was running. If they're going to wheel out
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  Speaker 1: viveralyin absolutely Churchill, maybe you could have some spitfires flowing
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  Speaker 1: over head.
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  Speaker 2: You were spot on because I also picked up on that.
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  Speaker 2: But just before we start commenting, a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: on the video itself. I just want to say that
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  Speaker 2: what didn't he mentioned. He didn't mention the numbers. He
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  Speaker 2: said it at halved so last year, depending on who
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  Speaker 2: you believe, over forty thousand people came in to this
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  Speaker 2: country illegally on boats. This has of course been going
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  Speaker 2: on for years. Vast numbers of people simply getting on
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  Speaker 2: a rubber boat and walking into this country, many would
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  Speaker 2: say aided and a vetted by the government in host
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  Speaker 2: But he doesn't mention any details there. And I'm also
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  Speaker 2: going to add that in the last hour or so
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  Speaker 2: it's been reported that this man is talking more about
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  Speaker 2: his devolution plans, and this is really where we have
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  Speaker 2: to pay attention. But let's just stick on the White
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  Speaker 2: Cliffs of Dover. So I thought it'd be better to
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  Speaker 2: put it a little bit more in black and white
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  Speaker 2: to get the full image. So why did they choose this, Well,
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  Speaker 2: this is the point, isn't it. And they chose the
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  Speaker 2: White Cliffs of Dover because he is Burnham trying to
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  Speaker 2: give the image that he's a man standing up for
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  Speaker 2: the nation. He's trying to cruise off the back of
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  Speaker 2: the people who fought and died in World War Two
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  Speaker 2: in defense of this nation. And I've just added there
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  Speaker 2: that he's probably chosen a suit and tie instead of
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  Speaker 2: his black T shirt to try and big up his
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  Speaker 2: image as a prime minister that you could trust. We
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  Speaker 2: should not trust this man. He is going to betray
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  Speaker 2: the country, is betraying the country, and today's news will
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  Speaker 2: show a little bit more. So I've really mentioned this,
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  Speaker 2: but he just talks about the number of illegal crossings
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  Speaker 2: being down by fifty percent, but he doesn't mention the figures,
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  Speaker 2: nor does he say that the figures of illegal crossings
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  Speaker 2: is just a tiny, tiny percentage of the facilitated immigration.
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  Speaker 2: And the figure I came up with was two hundred
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  Speaker 2: and four thousand. This is what the government says the
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  Speaker 2: net inward migration was last year, but in previous years
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  Speaker 2: it's been dramatically, dramatically higher than that. But of course
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  Speaker 2: Burnham doesn't want to talk numbers because numbers focus on
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  Speaker 2: the facts, and he's a man who would rather concentrate
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  Speaker 2: on spin. So let's go on through. He said that
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  Speaker 2: we'd be relentless in addressing the crossings, but we will
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  Speaker 2: also build safe routes for people to enter the UK.
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  Speaker 2: Because that also takes away the selling point of the
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  Speaker 2: grooming gangs. Now this is some really weasel wording here,
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  Speaker 2: because when he's talking about safe roots, he's not talking
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  Speaker 2: about just talking about safe roots, he's talking about a
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  Speaker 2: whole sanctuary city status within the UK, and that people
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  Speaker 2: are encouraged to come here to sin to seek sanctuary
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  Speaker 2: because everything is going to be provided. He doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about that, he doesn't want to use the terms.
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  Speaker 2: And then he says that if we get the support
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  Speaker 2: right in this country for whoever wants to come, then
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  Speaker 2: somehow miraculously this is going to take the sting out
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  Speaker 2: of the grooming gang. So very very cleverly crafted words
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  Speaker 2: and to deceive the public. Let's just follow it on
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  Speaker 2: because we've got wanted to make this comment here he said. Sorry,
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  Speaker 2: We are saying he's not going to do anything about
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  Speaker 2: the strain of excessive migration into the UK, but they're
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  Speaker 2: going to double the number of paid agency officers that
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  Speaker 2: are having to deal with the crossings. So this is
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  Speaker 2: the key point the migration. The immigration goes on and
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  Speaker 2: on and on because it is approved. Nobody wants to
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  Speaker 2: stop that or question the policies. All we're going to
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  Speaker 2: do is keep whining and spending more public money, supposedly
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  Speaker 2: to stop the boat crossings. And lastly, I'll pop this
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  Speaker 2: one up on screen. He's certainly not going to be
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  Speaker 2: talking or making any mention of the foreign national crime
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  Speaker 2: rate statistics. And why do I mention that? Well, because
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  Speaker 2: this subject is now breaking surface, not least through migration
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  Speaker 2: central And if we look at the fact that over
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  Speaker 2: one hundred thousand foreign national convictions have taken place in
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  Speaker 2: just three years, there's a lot of questions to be asked.
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  Speaker 2: So Ben, I'm going to say to you that this man,
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  Speaker 2: of course comes across in this smooth, relaxed trust me
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  Speaker 2: T shirt style. This man has got in his bag
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  Speaker 2: a whole raft of devolution policies which are as absolutely
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  Speaker 2: going to rip this country apart.
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  Speaker 1: The absolutely are yeah. And actually, interestingly, what he's saying
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  Speaker 1: there is not not really different from what farag has
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  Speaker 1: been saying and believing some other characters on this is
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  Speaker 1: the supposed political right. You know that we've got to
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  Speaker 1: deal with the We've got to deal with the boats,
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  Speaker 1: the boats, the boats, the boats, the boats. The most
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  Speaker 1: important thing. They ignore the much more significant mass immigration issue.
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  Speaker 2: And where and where the policies come from. So today
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  Speaker 2: we're able to give you a little bit of an
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  Speaker 2: example of what cities and city regions can expect under Burnham,
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  Speaker 2: he's going to accelerate the whole process. But I just
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  Speaker 2: wanted to focus on this local Plymouth article for a
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  Speaker 2: couple of days ago. If you can make out the
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  Speaker 2: headline amongst the adverts on the front page of the
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  Speaker 2: Plymouth Herald, it says that Juda is fighting back and
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  Speaker 2: that the council leader defends the local government shakeup that's
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  Speaker 2: the local government reorganization, and says nobody's land is being seized. Well,
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  Speaker 2: there was a double page spread inside the paper. Nobody
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  Speaker 2: wanted to put their name to the article, so I
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  Speaker 2: don't know who actually wrote it, but essentially this is
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  Speaker 2: just a propaganda piece for Tudor Evans, and the sub
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  Speaker 2: headline here said that the planned reorganization of local governments
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  Speaker 2: provoked huge controversy. Here Plymouth City Council leader Tudor Evans
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  Speaker 2: responds to critics of the imminent restructure. So if we
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  Speaker 2: try and put a bit of meat on the bones
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  Speaker 2: here so that people can understand, here's Plymouth ringed and
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  Speaker 2: then what has happened is that with a very carefully
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  Speaker 2: planned operation by Plymouth City Council, they've got a whole
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  Speaker 2: load of local parish councils to agree that they need
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  Speaker 2: to be managed and controlled by Plymouth City Council. And
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  Speaker 2: what we've got here and in front of our eyes
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  Speaker 2: is the creation of the Plymouth super city state, Greater Plymouth,
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  Speaker 2: the Greater Plymouth. And this is going to happen across
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  Speaker 2: UK and this is what Burnham wants. More power to
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  Speaker 2: mayors who are going to take control not just of
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  Speaker 2: cities but a whole economic regions around. So this is
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  Speaker 2: major and very dangerous constitutional change and we can see
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  Speaker 2: it unfolding on our doorstep if we follow this through.
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  Speaker 2: We're just put some of the comments that Tudor made
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  Speaker 2: here and he says that the Local Government Review is
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  Speaker 2: about changing how councils are organized. It's not about wiping
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  Speaker 2: communities off the map. The government's proposal is to replace
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  Speaker 2: the current patchwork of county, district and unitary councils with
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  Speaker 2: a smaller number of unitary authorities delivering service is through
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  Speaker 2: a single organization. But of course the reality is we're
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  Speaker 2: not talking about some loose patchwork of local councils. This
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  Speaker 2: is actually part of our very historic constitutional system of government.
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  Speaker 2: But of course Tudor, playing very loose with his words
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  Speaker 2: and descriptions, he went on to say this, of course,
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  Speaker 2: people are also concerned about representation. They want decisions affecting
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  Speaker 2: their communities to be made by people who understand them.
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  Speaker 2: That is a legitimate concern and one that must remain
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  Speaker 2: central as any new authority is designed. So nice words,
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  Speaker 2: but the reality, of course is, as en will be
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  Speaker 2: moving on to a little bit later, is that as
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  Speaker 2: these new authorities are designed and implemented, people will get
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  Speaker 2: less and less say, and the power of the centralized
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  Speaker 2: control will become ever greater. So we're just going to
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  Speaker 2: put over the top of that that the larger and
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  Speaker 2: more powerful the governing council, the less represation representation there is,
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  Speaker 2: and that Plymouth has just subsumed local councils in accordance
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  Speaker 2: with a desired government plan. And it did this by
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  Speaker 2: heavily manipulated meetings within the local parishes, where when maybe
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  Speaker 2: a couple of hundred people from the parish met in
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  Speaker 2: a church hall or whatever the location, Plymouth City Council
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  Speaker 2: had a facilitator on each table in order to ease
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  Speaker 2: people into the right decision, the decision that they wanted, which.
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  Speaker 1: You know because you were there.
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  Speaker 2: I know because I attended, And when I challenged the
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  Speaker 2: city council representatives about what was really going on, I
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  Speaker 2: became very unpopular, very quickly. So we just add a
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  Speaker 2: bit more over the top of this article, and that
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  Speaker 2: is that he said, nobody's land is being seized, nobody's
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  Speaker 2: properly rights are changing. Planning decisions will continue to be
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  Speaker 2: governed by exactly the same statutory planning process as they
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  Speaker 2: are today. Now that's true, but it's weasel words because
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  Speaker 2: the planning process going on today is backed by a
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  Speaker 2: central government which inevitably favors the bigger partners are the
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  Speaker 2: city councils. And a classic example here in Plymouth is
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  Speaker 2: this is how a new town, Sherford has been built
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  Speaker 2: on what was farming land, albeit a lower grade farming land,
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  Speaker 2: and despite massive local opposition, that development still not completed,
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  Speaker 2: still not with proper facilities or transport connections. But already
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  Speaker 2: Plymouth is moving on to making its empire even bigger.
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  Speaker 2: So the next part of this article was that Tudor
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  Speaker 2: attacked the local MP, Rebecca Smith. You said she'd opposed
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  Speaker 2: the Greater Plymouth proposal from the outset. She's perfectly entitled
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  Speaker 2: to that position. What she's non entitled to do is
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  Speaker 2: frighten residents with claims that do not stand up scrutiny.
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  Speaker 2: What Judah was getting frightened about was that she was
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  Speaker 2: beginning to tell the truth about what was going on.
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  Speaker 2: But Ben, you are already going to take us into
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  Speaker 2: what is happening here with this local government organization and
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  Speaker 2: the creation of the Plymouth Supercity. Plymmer's population at the
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  Speaker 2: moment roughly two hundred and sixty two hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 2: five thousand. At the event in the parish council, Plymouth
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  Speaker 2: City Council staff said we're aiming for over three hundred thousand,
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  Speaker 2: and later, when I put them under some pressure as
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  Speaker 2: to what the truth was, they talked about a figure
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  Speaker 2: of five hundred thousand. And of course, if we say,
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  Speaker 2: where are those extra one hundred and sixty thousand people,
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty thousand people going to come from?
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  Speaker 2: Are they going to be Are they going to be
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  Speaker 2: Brits in the true sense of the word. What are
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  Speaker 2: these going to be for a migrant pop pulation. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: the statistics that Burnham will not talk about suggest the latter.
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  Speaker 2: And if anybody is slightly uncomfortable about what I've just said,
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  Speaker 2: I find it very interesting that I can talk to
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  Speaker 2: members of the migrant community. They can be Indians or
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  Speaker 2: Pakistanis or from the Middle East. They also recognize that
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  Speaker 2: you are going to have chaos if you continue to
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  Speaker 2: overload the strategic infrastructure of a country. However, that is
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  Speaker 2: the objective, because that creates the new system which is
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  Speaker 2: going to take us through.
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  Speaker 1: Certain it does. Brian, Yes, and we talk about this
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  Speaker 1: a lot. A couple of weeks ago when I was
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  Speaker 1: here seeing here with Mike, we talked about Sadiq Khan
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that he's not just the mayor of London,
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  Speaker 1: he's also the president or co president of c forty cities.
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  Speaker 1: And actually these people can't Burnham when he was in
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  Speaker 1: position in Manchester, have a national or role within one
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  Speaker 1: of our major cities. But actually, more importantly, they're part
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  Speaker 1: of these national, regional, and international networks of city states
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  Speaker 1: that form the backbone of the new global governance model
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  Speaker 1: that we're being rapidly ushered into by the establishment. Now
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  Speaker 1: Tudor Revans is a key member of this organization. This
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  Speaker 1: is the Key Cities Network. We've reported on them a
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  Speaker 1: number of times over the past eighteen months or so.
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  Speaker 1: It's twenty four cities around the UK that in their words,
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  Speaker 1: represent urban living in the UK and they have range,
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  Speaker 1: expertise and agility to deliver innovative solutions for the challenges
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  Speaker 1: we face. There's that word again, innovative new ways of
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  Speaker 1: doing things. And Tudor Revenue is actually on the executive
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  Speaker 1: committee you can see here, so Councilor Tudor Revens's Leader
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  Speaker 1: of the Council also joined on the committee by his
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  Speaker 1: number two deputy leader, jemimah Lang. So big plymouth presence
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  Speaker 1: in this organization.
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  Speaker 2: And can I just come in there, Ben and say
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  Speaker 2: absolutely none of this mentioned in the Herald article. So
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  Speaker 2: none of this high level political maneuvering and policy making
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  Speaker 2: touched upon. Simply a propaganda piece by Tudor Evans, but
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  Speaker 2: no mention of the power base that he is amongst
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  Speaker 2: that is creating all these new policies, swallowing up local
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  Speaker 2: communities and parish councils.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, and you'd expect him. I would say, if this
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  Speaker 1: was all transparent as it should be, to be shouting
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  Speaker 1: about this because it's such a great thing. Just go
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  Speaker 1: and read the website. It's fantastic Key Cities. And also
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  Speaker 1: because he was one of the lead authors on this
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  Speaker 1: report which came out last year on the Waterfront, which
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  Speaker 1: we reported on at the time. So he's very heavily
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  Speaker 1: involved in Key Cities. And let's have a little listen
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  Speaker 1: now to a clip again I shared a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks ago, and I want to reshare it because it
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  Speaker 1: contains some very very pertinent information, not least because of
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  Speaker 1: the article that Brands talked about, which came out in
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  Speaker 1: the Plymouth Herald last week.
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  Speaker 4: So we're really proud to host the Cities Forum this
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  Speaker 4: year in Bath as a city that really benefits from
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  Speaker 4: their partnership with the Key Cities Network. We're so much
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  Speaker 4: greater when we work together and we can have a
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  Speaker 4: real impact on government policies.
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  Speaker 5: In this modern world, cities have to learn from each
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  Speaker 5: other to succeed both for themselves and for their residence,
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  Speaker 5: which is the most important thing.
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  Speaker 6: For all of us, well for me, because of the
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  Speaker 6: work that we've done looking at rights to place with
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  Speaker 6: key cities. We've been looking at projects all over the
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  Speaker 6: UK and where we see that the project have really
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  Speaker 6: massive impact is where they bring multiple partners together, whether
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  Speaker 6: that's the NHS or local authorities, landowners, charities.
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  Speaker 7: Are delivering for many, many more audiences.
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  Speaker 8: The housing session came first, and actually there were so
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  Speaker 8: many crossovers between housing and culture, and I think culture
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  Speaker 8: pays a huge part in delivering housing and delivering not
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  Speaker 8: just houses, but homes and communities that people can thrive
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  Speaker 8: and enjoy living in.
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  Speaker 5: More working together, more collaboration, deeper conversations, understanding what our
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  Speaker 5: usps are of individual cities. That way we can all
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  Speaker 5: offer something to everyone.
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  Speaker 9: We know that the government's concerned about the level of
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  Speaker 9: growth in the economy at the moment, we feel that
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  Speaker 9: we can deliver with the government in partnership.
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  Speaker 10: We've got the space the land. We've also got the
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  Speaker 10: institutions like universities that can deliver for the government and
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  Speaker 10: we would like the opportunity to demonstrate that.
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  Speaker 2: So Bend the Gentleman said, we've got the space and
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  Speaker 2: the land, and if they haven't got the space and
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  Speaker 2: the land, they're going to get that space and land
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to get all approval from the government
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  Speaker 2: to give them the powers to get hold of it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know plastic example in Plymouth, it's in your
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  Speaker 2: face when you do your researcher apparently. Well, it's a
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: shame that the Herald didn't seem to be able to
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: investigate what was happening properly.
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: Certainly there's a shame, but it's just a pile of
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: state of not just local media or media these days. Unfortunately,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you're absolutely correage. We just get that on screens. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: think it's important as John Mary who's the mayor of
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: Sulford double and he said there very specifically in his
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: position as chair of the Keys is his network. We've
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: got the space, we've got the land, and you make
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: that slightly bigger. We've got the space and the land.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: So when when Tudor Evans says this isn't a land grab,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: No one's land is being seized, it doesn't really seem
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: to stack up in the context of this quote coming
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: from the chair of this organization, does it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you can take land by taking the land physically
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: and occupying it. Well, you can take land by having
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: administrative control over it. So that you can do what
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: you like within that land, and that to me reflects
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: the situation better. Yes, they are giving themselves power over land,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: which actually is the history of other communities.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: It certain yes, And there's that sort of distinction between
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: owning and controlling. If you control something completely, it doesn't
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: matter if you own it or not. You know, this
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: is a really important thing to understand. Now, just a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: final little look at key cities. So again I reported
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: on this last year. Will put some links. You can
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: go and watch those longer reports. But I just wanted
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: to reiterate that this is overseen by an advisory board
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: which includes Charles Clark, who's the former Home Secretary under
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Tony Blair, who actually tendered his resignation in two thousand
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: and six after it emerged that over a thousand foreign
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: prisoners had been freed without being considered for deportation, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: then Blair refused his resignation when he tended it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: Love that seems that seems reasonable from mister Blair. Yes,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: of course he'd want to keep his cronies close.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: No, I certainly would. Yes, And then it's also overseen
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: by this chap. So this is Lord Raji Lumba who
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: was a Blair era appointed to the Lord's rag trade
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: billionaire of Indian extraction. And importantly he runs this thing
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: which is the Lumber Foundation, which is operating handing club
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: with Tony Blair and has got a bunch of people
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: like Cameron Clegg, Richard Branson, Yo co Ono Countis Man Battan.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And this shows that there is no such thing as
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: division between the parties because this is all cross party
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: policy which is absolutely by these people together with celebrities
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: and the corporatives. So exactly this is where government is
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: really located.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Indeed it is and you know, just to really run
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: the point home like these are the people ultimately that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: are pulling the strings or local government reorganization, progressing that
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: agenda and who will ultimately benefit from this whole program.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: So Plymouth Herald, if you're watching, you might want to
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: squeeze that in next time. And as is actually manifest
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: well maybe not directly, but I did talk about this
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: last week. This is the wonderful Tottill Park in Plymouth,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: which is my local park, beautifully cared for by a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: community of gardeners and friends of the park. And there
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: was some bad news which arrived actually at the start
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: of this year is back in February where the local
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: cafe and community center was forced to move into this
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: temporary location and out of this beautiful bit of physical
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: infrastructure that was bequeathed to the local people by the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: American Army at the end of the Second World War.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: That was shut down with zero explanation as to why.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And it's because Plymouth Council have come in and I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: don't know it potentially looks like they decided they might
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: want to do something else with it. It's very unclear
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: what that is.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: So no consultation there now, just move in. So Tudor
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Evans trying to tell you that when we've want to
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: a bigger and more empowered Plymouth, it's going to be
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: listening to people. This is completely it seems to me
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: at least untrue.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: No, I certainly seems that way. Now we'll just call out.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I did have a conversation with Iron Driver, the Green
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Party counselor for the area last night, and he's on
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the case and doing some good stuff. So thank you Byron.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Will stay in touch and looking forward to seeing how
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: that develops. And also su Dan, who I think I
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: may have undersold unfortunately slightly the amount of work that
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: she's put into help with the community, so it sounds
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: like Sudan is actually doing some good stuff as well.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But ultimately what we're all looking to do is reopen
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: the center and make sure that that vital resource in
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: tottill Park and Plymouth, which is a perfect proxy for
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: everything else that's going on around the country, is able
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to open and operate without interference from the government.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Just reinforce the point here we started with Tudor Evan
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: and really strategic plans coming down from the government. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: where is the Foinight back effective. It's starting at local
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: level saying no to the policies, because if they can't
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: implement it at local level, they can't implement it at
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: national level.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Key point absolutely is where the shovels make the ground.
• 25:11
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• 26:23
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• 27:43
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• 27:47
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• 28:11
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• 28:15
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• 28:22
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• 28:25
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• 28:30
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• 28:34
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• 28:37
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• 28:41
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• 28:43
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• 28:47
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• 28:49
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• 28:50
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• 28:55
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• 29:00
  Speaker 1: joined by Katie Joe Berfin from Wales. Katie Joe, how
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: are you welcome to the show.
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: Hello, I'm really well, thank you, thanks for having me on.
• 29:09
  Speaker 7: I really appreciate it.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Absolutely always a pleasure. So you're here to talk about
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: a little festival that you have coming up over the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: coming weeks. What's going on?
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah, Well, music has an incredible way of bringing people
• 29:25
  Speaker 11: together and it's exactly what the Hope Freedom Music Festival
• 29:28
  Speaker 11: is all about. We are back over the August Bank
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: Holiday from the twenty eighth to the thirty first of
• 29:35
  Speaker 11: August with our four day Fantastic Music Festival.
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: It's full jam packed with live.
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: Music, delicious food, inspiring talks and workshops, a beautiful world
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: spa stalls, a woodland wellness area, mud wrestling activities for
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: all ages, and most importantly, an amazing community of people
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: who simply love spending time together. You come with your children,
• 30:01
  Speaker 11: your partner, a group of friends, or you come on
• 30:03
  Speaker 11: your own, you will receive a really warm welcome. Everything
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: we do is built around creating a space for people
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: so that you can relax, connect, make new friends and
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: celebrate the incredible talent we have there of independent musicians
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: in DJs. The heart of Hope, Sussex community, i must say,
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: has always been our home, educating families and the children and.
• 30:31
  Speaker 7: Hope we have created. We have done it.
• 30:33
  Speaker 11: We have created a space where young people can grow
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: with confidence, creativity and curiosity, while adults can reconnect.
• 30:42
  Speaker 7: With what it feels like to be a part of
• 30:46
  Speaker 7: a community. So yeah.
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: So the festival is a fundraiser. It supports Hope Community
• 30:52
  Speaker 11: and allows us to continue to provide this amazing space.
• 30:57
  Speaker 11: But this year we're espressly excited because Hope releasing two albums,
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: both of which will be available to buy at the festival.
• 31:06
  Speaker 11: The first is the Hope Freedom Music compilation album called
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: This Sounds Like Hope.
• 31:12
  Speaker 7: It's a celebration of the amazing independent.
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: Artists who have supported the Freedom Music Festival over the
• 31:17
  Speaker 11: last five years. Every track has been generously donated by
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: the musicians who believe.
• 31:23
  Speaker 7: In what Hope is all about.
• 31:25
  Speaker 11: And when you buy the album you are discovering ariddinal,
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: fantastic music while supporting Hope Sussex community. We have tracks
• 31:33
  Speaker 11: on the album from right, said Fred DUBFX and Saheda
• 31:38
  Speaker 11: Out of Karma Joel Rose Victorious. The list is massive
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: and I've got a feeling it's going to be a
• 31:44
  Speaker 11: double CD at the rate we're going.
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: So yeah.
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: And then the second album is Victorious, the Brighton based band.
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: It's their titled it's their debut track, debut album, so
• 31:56
  Speaker 11: it's called in the Land of the Flying Monkeys and
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: that's available for pre order now. And obviously the title
• 32:03
  Speaker 11: was inspired by the Wizard of Oz and we all
• 32:06
  Speaker 11: know who the flying monkeys are in society.
• 32:09
  Speaker 7: You know, the ones that are doing the bidding.
• 32:12
  Speaker 11: For the psychopathic megalamaniacs out there that are controlling everything,
• 32:17
  Speaker 11: whether knowingly or unknowingly.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: They are the ones.
• 32:20
  Speaker 11: And so we believe, the band, believe are the biggest
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: reason we are being driven further into this tyranny. So yeah,
• 32:30
  Speaker 11: so it's it's exactly what Victorious and the wider Hope
• 32:34
  Speaker 11: community are all about. It's about remembering that music has
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: the power, even in difficult times, to bring people together.
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: So I believe We've got a clip of the first
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: single which is going to be played in extra which
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: is exciting. And so yeah, you whether you're going to
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: pre order the album, come to the festival, which whatever
• 32:56
  Speaker 11: you're going to do, just come and support Hopes US
• 32:59
  Speaker 11: six because we doing amazing things and it's a beautiful
• 33:03
  Speaker 11: place to be. We've just had Camp Hope, which has
• 33:05
  Speaker 11: been a huge success, a wonderful week of families coming
• 33:09
  Speaker 11: and camping and enjoying all the wonderful things that are
• 33:11
  Speaker 11: independent tutors have to offer. It's a very special place,
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: and I'm gutted that you guys aren't going to be
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: there this year, but I do know that you have
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: obviously got your amazing event in September which we are
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: going to come to, so we're going to see you
• 33:23
  Speaker 11: guys there anyway.
• 33:26
  Speaker 7: So don't forget.
• 33:26
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• 33:38
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• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Katie Joe, thank you very much for that. I've enjoyed
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: my visits your event, and what I've particularly enjoyed, apart
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: from just sort of meeting everybody, is that you can
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: have a whole range of different conversations. You can have
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: just fun conversations about simple things and families and holidays,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: and the next minute you can be with somebody having
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: a really deep conversation about anything from politics to the
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: state of the nations. To religion, and everybody stays absolutely
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: friendly and respectful of other people's opinion. So I personally
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: have found that to be a really wonderful thing about
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: your event. Well done, Yes it was, it was. It
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: was a highlight of last year for me. Although I've
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: got to tell you I'm gutted now that I've missed
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: two things because I didn't see the flamingos last year,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: and it looks like your cover there's flamingos, and did
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: you say something about mud wrestling.
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: We've got flamingos all over the site this year. Our
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: lovely Gene who creates all of our posters and everything. Yea,
• 34:45
  Speaker 11: our little flamingos are going to be everywhere this year.
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: But mud wrestling, yes, it's going to be hilarious, okay,
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: surrounding it and it's going to be.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: We can okay, very good sounds our fun and we
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: look forward to seeing you in extra So moving on,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: we're going to get head back to this issue of
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: local governance and the assault on the local community, and
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in particular this term of neighborhood is getting a lot
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: of traction in sw one, can I.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: Say, And it's exactly this sort of stuff that Katie
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Joe and our team has broken through because they have
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: started a ground up community up initiative which they've had
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: a real battle for. But this is the sort of
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: policy that's aiming to capture everybody and stop that happening.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, Yeah, to take that energy and direct it in
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a way that is pro establishment rather than anti establishment.
• 35:47
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So we've talked about this organization a lot previously, so
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: this is icon the Independent Commission on Neighborhoods and will
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: provide some links you can go and look at previous reporting.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: But essentially this was set up in twenty twenty four
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: as a way of exploring and understanding what was going
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: on at a local level across the UK. But this
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: is all about the centralization of power into the kind
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: of corporate governance structure that surrounds well now the Burnham government.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: So it's got a number of commissioners and trustees looking
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: at overlooking. It's very closely linked into the evolution programs.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: You can see Kim McGinness there, who's the mayor of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the Northeast of England, so she's one of these Metro mayors.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: She's on the commissioner group for this. Importantly, Professor David
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Halpen CBE.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: So this is all part of the government's behavioral insights
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: team set up.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: It's exactly correct, Yes, Because whenever I see Halpen and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he's the guy that set up with an insights team,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I always like to think of this quote, which is
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: that power is in tearing human minds to pieces and
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: putting them together again in new shapes of your own choosing.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: It's exactly what they're doing, and they've been doing it
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: at an individual level. They're now focusing on how they
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: can apply that at a community level. They just issued
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: is why bring it onto the news today? This report
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: which came out last week. So this is community capacity
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: building in practice. And they talk about capacity building for me,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: this is centralized interference and control of local areas. Yeah.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: And there's this grand narrative that they're spinning about the
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: industrialization and the negative impact that that's had on the
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: society over the past fifty years, which is true. It
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: has happened that the people who haven't been behind the
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: industrialization of the ones that are now bringing these programs
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: in in order to go and get their arms around
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the people that have been impacted by that.
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: I've just added to here bend. These documents, the sorts
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: of documents like this one that has been up on screen,
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: and the documents that you consistently show on the news,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: freely available when you know where to go for them.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: But really the only people who are reading them and
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: acting on them are the senior level people in the
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: city authorities and the big county. So the cabinet level
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: people are being given access to these documents, they're reading them,
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: they're being sucked on board with the policies. Meanwhile, everybody
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: else has no idea of what this stuff is or
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: what it's supposed to do. So hidden in plane sight.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: But if you want to know what the policies are
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: coming in, you need to read these documents because you're
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: not necessarily going to see it coming in through centralized
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: government papers or documents. This is power base that's working
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: around and off to one side of the government established
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: government system.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Absolutely yes, and it's coordinated through these clandestine networks. And
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: we talk about these dark actor networks that UKO Colom
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: has founded its entire reputation on exposing, right, and the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: most important one in this incident, I'll draw your attention
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to relates to that I can get that back on
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: screen you can see that this is a Saint George's
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: House consultation and what that means is related to the
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Winds Leadership program. And this article from twenty sixteen by
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Martin Edwards, we're talking about leadership training for a Common Purpose,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: highlights the winnership Windsor Leadership Trust as being identified by
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: a guy called John Adair, who's the chair of Leadership
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Studies at the United Nations System Staff College in Tirins.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Is one of the people that's running staff training for
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: the United Nations. Talks about the Windsor Leadership Trust. The
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Whitehall and Industry Group, which is another one of these
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: organizations I think I've spoken about before, the Campaign for
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: Leadership And importantly in the bottom right haside there we
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: can see and Common Purpose all in the same breath,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: so they're all doing effectively the same thing.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: So when we now see that Andre Burnham has been
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: fully engaged with Common Purpose and Common Purpose events, the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: power base is still here under the surface, a political
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: charity with enormous power to change and help implement government.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: All seats absolutely is and we've linked into the top
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: of the palace. Actually, I mean you'd probably expect that
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: being that this is based at Windsor Castle. But you
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: can see here a number of grandees from city and
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: government and whatnot, including it's coming up this chap shaberanderis
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Cbe who is alongside this position is also the chair
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: of the King's Trusty. So this is innocent, you do, Yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: you know, why not. Let's let's let's just let's just
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: let's just take all of these little important thing has.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Been when you know where to look for these people
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: and what they're doing, you can find them very easily.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: And this is where people's attention needs to be because
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: these are the people holding about uh the power does
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: do the local MPs here in Plymouth understand what is
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: actually causing all of the change around Plymouth and the
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: policies and the city, states and mess They haven't got
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: a clue and it's up to why the public as
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: effectively to educate them.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And then just another example,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: and essentially I've described there as I said, is happening
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: across the country. Lots of different networks, lots of different groups.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Another one that we do to speak about a lot
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: is demos. They just issued this report the Marshall Plan,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: Pacific Life, Funding the future. And obviously the Marshall Plan
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: was the reconstruction of Europe plan that came out of
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: the Second World War. So these more reconstruction funds.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: It's interesting, Ben, isn't it. First of all, there's the destruction,
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: the sheer horror destruction the Second World War, the old
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: societies in Europe destroyed, and then all of a sudden
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: there's enough money to do a massive reconstruction. And out
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: of that reconstruction came the seeds for the European Union.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Now we can see this country being destroyed from the inside,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: no question of it. Now we've got a plan in
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: order to make it into a new model, and of
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: course that's a model designed by unaccountable people backed by
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: a lot of money.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: A lot of money. Absolutely, and again the language around
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: this stuff is all about about renewal. I see this
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: as being about control, centralization and control. And let's just
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: dig in very quickly to the organization on the bottom
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: left of the screen. You can see their kinship Works.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: We talk about demos all the time. Kinship Works is
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: a new one. It's this network organization. So apparently they
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: can link you people running these types of programs into
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: expert practitioners depending on needs and context. And to cut
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: a long story short, a very quick hop, skip and
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: jump from kinship works takes you up to a shocker level.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I've spoken about a shocker previously is the UK Island
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: website where they talk about envisaging and everyone a change
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: maker world. So they're building these leadership networks or change
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: makers who are working across sectors in order to bring
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: through the new system. The shakers we've spoken about not
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that long ago on the show is backed by the
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Rothschild Foundation freud to run the UNSDG communications program and
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: the Edge Foundation, which I'd never actually heard of before,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: but it's very well established. It's overseen by His Royal Highness,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: the Duke of Kent, who also when he's not doing
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: meets and greets like he is there on the left
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: hand side, hangs around in rooms like this saying right
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: in the middle because he's actually the top freemason in
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: the world. He runs the United Lodge of England. And
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: there's a little bit more of a close up you
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: can see that these are the people that are driving
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: it's change agenda across the country. It's extraordinary isn't it.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: They're out in plain sight.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Now, in plain site, completely unaccountable and need to be
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: helped to account. I would say, But interesting that your
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: research for Today's News took you on this line. I
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: picked up on this article here from the Financial Times
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: Freemasons seek a new generation of members, And essentially this
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: is an article bemoaning the fact that the Freemasons are
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: not getting enough new members and therefore they're desperately trying
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: to target especially younger people to bring them into the fold.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: So maybe I'm being a little bit hard on the
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Financial Times When I read what they have to say,
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, yeah, this is really a free advert to
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: try and get more people in the club. Except one
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: of the things going on. Of course, if we go
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: back in time to when many people would say the
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Masonic movement was the Old Boys Club, and that would
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: be mainly white old boys, We've now got such a
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: major change in society. There isn't the same impetus for
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: people to get involved. Plus we have the political quasi
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: secret societies such as Common Purpose also putting their leaders
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: into communities in order to get their own agendas through.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: It's almost like there's a clash of civilizer. The higher
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: powers know exactly what's happening because they controlled both sides.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: But I can imagine a country freemason has no idea
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: what's actually taking a place around him in the country.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's probably fair to say. And your point
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: about this being the kind of white old boys network
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: is interesting because actually, as part of their push to
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: increase membership to become very explicitly multi ethnic, and when
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: you go and watch what the United Grand Lolge of
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: England or any of these other networks putting out on
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: social media, it's very multi ethnic and also has been
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: opened up for quite some time to female Masons as well,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: so it's not just an old boys network, it's an
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: old girls network too.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, well we just followed that up by having a
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: little look at really common purpose but subject here is
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Chris Bryant. Thank you to the UK Colin viewer that
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: sent me an email alerting me to this interesting article.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: Very simple new Northern secretary deliberately avoids answering United Ireland question.
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: Chris Bryant said he's not starting a poll now, all
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: this week, all this month, all this year. He absolutely
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: didn't want to talk about any border issues. Now I
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: was sent a social media post. There is a bit
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: of bad language in it, but essentially the person said,
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: so he Chris Bryant doesn't believe in his own country
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: gets underpants man. What he's referring to, of course, is
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: Chris Bryant was photographed in white wy fronts many years
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: ago when he was seeking a same sex partner. That
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: photo was eventually banned from the internet. Clearly this person
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: remembers and Chris Bryant, if I remember correctly, head of
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: the Common Purpose Office in London. So Common Purpose is
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: still there in the background, but we don't know what
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: his present involvement is. And the other thing that has
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: always been of interest to me is how Britain, in
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: a time of great risk in the world, we're told
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that we're going to go to war with the Russians
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: at any time, but we're very happy for our steel
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: industry to be hived off and sold off to foreign powers.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: Stephen Kinnock was around during that debate. But our steel
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: industry went off to India and Tartar Steel. I just
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: want to bring that up because Tarta Steel here saying
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: Common Purpose India was commissioned by Tartar Steel to deliver
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: three modules of a leadership development program to senior frontline
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Tartar Steel officers. And I'll also add that Glynnis Kinnock,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: when she was still alive, defended Common Purpose when members
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: of the public were asking them too many, too difficult questions.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: So a ought to be still asked about what this
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: political charity, Common Purpose is and what it's doing. But
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: one thing's for certain, is still very active now other
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: headlines which bring us on to the subject of who
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: is controlling what? This was a very interesting substack sent
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: to me Bethlyn Bethbihem Institute for Peace and Justice, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: the author of this article said they were recently approached
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: with the Telegraph and the newspaper in the UK to
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: comment on the Church of England's recent decision to receive
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: and engage with Kairos Palestine two, amongst other Palestinian Christian documents.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: This was a paper really seeking support for Palestine, but
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: certainly not doing it on the basis of any aggression
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: perceived or otherwise to other communities, including Jewish, and this
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: gentleman says, I was also asked to respond to theism
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: directed at the Church for the Board of Deputies of
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: British Jews. The meat of this is that he in
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: this article says, so what did the Telegraph do with it?
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: It published the following headline British Jews complicit in Israeli crimes,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: say Palestine Christians, Palestinian Christians. So a complete spin and
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: inversion of the truth of the Telegraph. And so this
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: would appear to be the Telegraph defending the Zionist movement
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: from any criticism. As usual, We've got another headline here
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: from the Telegraph, the perversion of Zionism. And this article,
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: although supposedly picking up and recognizing criticism of the Zionist movement,
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: when you read it there's so much deflection. My conclusion
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: was that it was designed to protect the Zionist movement.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And as we are seeing and hearing from many sources
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: at the moment, hour of the Zionist lobby in the
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: UK is increasing. We can ask this question, who is
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: really in control of the country? And I think a
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: lot more work to be done on this.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: Ben That's a very good question, Brian. And what is
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: it they want to see happening in the country?
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: And change? Yes, one thing is change and more change.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: They invariably never say what that change is, because of
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: course perpetual change is effectively revolution and destruction.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: It certainly is, and a lot of this is being
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: driven by technologies we talk about all the time. And
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: unfortunately there's been some concerning news out of East London
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: last week as a new AI data center has been
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: approved on Brick Lane. Let's have a little listen to
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: this report from the BBC.
• 50:50
  Speaker 13: Welcome to BBC London with me as Sad Armors, plans
• 50:54
  Speaker 13: for a data center near to historic Brick Lane in
• 50:57
  Speaker 13: East London have been given the go ahea. The government
• 51:01
  Speaker 13: has given the green light for the development, which will
• 51:03
  Speaker 13: also include new offices and homes. There's been no shortage
• 51:07
  Speaker 13: of opposition from the council and local people who argue
• 51:11
  Speaker 13: the development will change the area forever.
• 51:14
  Speaker 7: Well.
• 51:14
  Speaker 13: Leila Hayes has been engaging reaction to today's announcement. She's
• 51:18
  Speaker 13: on Brick Lane for us now, Leila.
• 51:22
  Speaker 14: Well, I'm at the Truman Brewery site on Brick Lane,
• 51:25
  Speaker 14: which is one of the areas earmarked for redevelopment. Another
• 51:29
  Speaker 14: plans which include building homes, offices and a data center,
• 51:33
  Speaker 14: have now been approved by the government, but there has
• 51:37
  Speaker 14: been bitter opposition the local council here Tower Hamlets to
• 51:41
  Speaker 14: say they are disappointed by the decision and they say
• 51:44
  Speaker 14: the plans which include forty four homes but just six
• 51:48
  Speaker 14: for Social Red, don't deliver enough affordable housing and campaigners
• 51:54
  Speaker 14: are also not happy. This is what they told me earlier.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 51:58
  Speaker 12: The decision is obviously deeply disappointing to us. The local
• 52:02
  Speaker 12: authority were fully supportive of our campaign. No one in
• 52:06
  Speaker 12: the local authority wanted this to go through. It was
• 52:09
  Speaker 12: taken out of their hands, taken out of our hands,
• 52:13
  Speaker 12: and has become a decision and natural government level. We
• 52:17
  Speaker 12: find it quite extraordinary that they have approved a huge
• 52:21
  Speaker 12: amount of office spaces and of all things, a data center,
• 52:25
  Speaker 12: when the local plan shows that we could see a
• 52:28
  Speaker 12: delivery of three hundred and fifty homes on this site
• 52:30
  Speaker 12: in the borough which has the most overcrowded housing situation
• 52:34
  Speaker 12: in the country and the highest projected population growth in
• 52:38
  Speaker 12: the country.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: To come up with a.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: Data center is shocking. So two things a worked there.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: One is it is admitting that they've got a housing
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: problem due to rising numbers. That is the destructive effect
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: of uncontrolled migration, which has said earlier in the news
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: many recent migrants this kind also recognize the systems out
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: of control. But of course, on top of that, the
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: government's AI policy is to be implemented wherever the government says,
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: and it's going to override local community. So if we
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: come back to Tudor Evans's reassurances, oh trust us, well
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you can't even trust the city council because the government
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: was prepared to override them as well.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, it is planning with you. Yeah, and it's viewed
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: the strategic national infrastructure. So you've got the local community,
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: the local council that even the council don't want it.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: They're saying they could build three hundred and fifty homes there.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: Actually the plans that have been approved are going to
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: be forty four homes I think he said, eight of
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: which will actually be affordable by normal people. There's been
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: an at of street protesting. We can see this here.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: I've put a link to the Instagram profile of Saved
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Brick Lane. They've been doing some good protesting and talking
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: about this in terms of social cleansing. I think it's
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: a very good way of talking about it actually, And
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: what's the knock on impact of this, Well, we were
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: sent in there. So over the weekend from the Slough
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: and South Box Observer where they're talking about data centers,
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: a cooking slough into a heat island, which is you know,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it's quite interesting, isn't it. We were constantly being told
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: that we're hitting record temperatures because of climate change. Was
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: anyone considered that maybe all of this new technological infrastructure
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: that's been built across the whole of our country it's
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: got anything to do with this things.
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: For certain the data centers are desperate to get rid
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: of the heat and they're just going to pump that out.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: But the point was here that for Slough in a
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: built up environment, that heat build up was considerable and
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: locals were saying they really felt it. Of course, in
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: London with a lot of buildings and tarmac, temperatures are
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: up on what the ambient temperature of the surrounding area
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: would be simply due to the built environment. So then
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: you put in a data set, a data center, and
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: that is going to affect the immediate ornaments, certainly so.
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: But again that building is going to be built, whether
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: local people wanted or not.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Well, certainly is yeah, And to understand what's driving that,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: we talk a lot about power and using these control
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: towns essentially for this new global system, but also importantly
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: in case the brit Lane data center is also money.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So we can see there's britt Lane data Center just
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: there on the old Truman Breweries and not too far
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: away ten minute while you've got the Bank of England
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: and then actually importantly the widest city of London. So
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: this data center's proximity to the global financial center in
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: the cities I think extremely important. And actually the reshaping
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: and reforming of our cities in response to algorithms has
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: been going on for quite some time now, and I'm
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: going to show a short clip of a TED talk
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: by MIT professor Kevin Slavin talking about this exact issue
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: and how it impacts it on New York real estate
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: back in twenty thirteen.
• 56:05
  Speaker 15: The algorithms of Wall Street are dependent on one quality
• 56:09
  Speaker 15: above all else, which is speed, and they operate on
• 56:13
  Speaker 15: milliseconds and microseconds. And just to give you a sense
• 56:16
  Speaker 15: of what microseconds are, it takes you five hundred thousand
• 56:19
  Speaker 15: microseconds just to click a mouse. But if you're a
• 56:22
  Speaker 15: Wall Street algorithm and you're five microseconds behind, you're a loser.
• 56:28
  Speaker 15: So if you were an algorithm, you'd look for an
• 56:30
  Speaker 15: architect like the one that I met in Frankfurt who
• 56:32
  Speaker 15: was hollowing out a skyscraper, throwing out all the furniture,
• 56:36
  Speaker 15: all the infrastructure for human use, and just running steel
• 56:39
  Speaker 15: on the floors to get ready for the stacks of
• 56:41
  Speaker 15: servers to go in. Also that an algorithm could get
• 56:45
  Speaker 15: close to the Internet. And you think of the Internet
• 56:49
  Speaker 15: as this kind of distributed system, and of course it is,
• 56:52
  Speaker 15: but it's distributed from places right in New York. This
• 56:55
  Speaker 15: is where it's distributed from. It's a Carrier hotel located
• 56:58
  Speaker 15: on Hudson Street, and this is really where the wires
• 57:01
  Speaker 15: come right up into the city. And the reality is
• 57:05
  Speaker 15: that the further away you are from that, you're a
• 57:07
  Speaker 15: few micro seconds behind. Every time these guys down on
• 57:10
  Speaker 15: Wall Street, Marco Polo and Cherokee Nation, there are eight
• 57:13
  Speaker 15: microseconds behind all these guys going in to the empty
• 57:18
  Speaker 15: buildings being hollowed out up around the Carrier Hotel. And
• 57:25
  Speaker 15: that's going to keep happening. We're going to keep hollowing
• 57:28
  Speaker 15: them out because you inch for inch, and pound for
• 57:32
  Speaker 15: pound and dollar for dollar, none of you could squeeze
• 57:36
  Speaker 15: revenue out of that space like the Boston Shuffler could.
• 57:41
  Speaker 15: But if you zoom out, if you zoom out, you
• 57:44
  Speaker 15: would see an eight hundred and twenty five mile trench
• 57:48
  Speaker 15: between New York City and Chicago's been built over the
• 57:51
  Speaker 15: last few years by a company called spread Networks. This
• 57:55
  Speaker 15: is a fiber optic cable that was laid between those
• 57:58
  Speaker 15: two cities to just be able to traffic one signal
• 58:02
  Speaker 15: thirty seven times faster than you can click a mouse,
• 58:06
  Speaker 15: just for these algorithms, just for the carnival and the knife.
• 58:11
  Speaker 15: And when you think about this, that we're running through
• 58:15
  Speaker 15: the United States with dynamite and rock saws so that
• 58:19
  Speaker 15: an algorithm can close the deal three microseconds faster, all
• 58:23
  Speaker 15: for a communications framework that no human will ever know.
• 58:29
  Speaker 15: That's a kind of manifest destiny, and we'll always look
• 58:33
  Speaker 15: for a new frontier.
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: Demonic madness. In my opinion.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, Brian. Yeah, So that was
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: from twenty thirteen, Kevin Slaving FROMMIT talking about what was
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: going on in New York essentially the entire skyscrapers in
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: the city. We can get this up on screen. As
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: he was saying, entire skyscraper is being hollowed out, won't
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  Speaker 1: have people in them anymore, because it makes a lot
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  Speaker 1: more if you fill them with data data centers. And
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening in East London right now. This thing,
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  Speaker 1: this trench is just extraordinary. So they've just dynamited a
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  Speaker 1: trench across the US to save thirteen point three miniseconds
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  Speaker 1: on leyency in trading infrastructure. It's the terror forming of
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  Speaker 1: the earth in response to the financial markets.
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  Speaker 2: So much environmental protection there then.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, exactly, yeah, Well provide a links you can
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  Speaker 1: go and watch. The full talk is the fantastic Ted Talks,
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  Speaker 1: only fifteen minutes long, definitely worth a watch. His next
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  Speaker 1: slide that he was about to move on to is
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  Speaker 1: this one, which basically shows where computing architecture should exist
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  Speaker 1: for electronic trading in order to be as efficient as possible.
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  Speaker 1: And what you probably notice is that a lot of
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  Speaker 1: those dots are in the middle of the ocean. And
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is an explanation for these stories at we're
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  Speaker 1: beginning to see where you've got startups planning to build
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  Speaker 1: nuclear powered data centers in the sea, to which I
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  Speaker 1: will ask you, Brian, maybe rhetorically, what could possibly go wrong?
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  Speaker 1: You know what could possibly go wrong with this, and
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  Speaker 1: of course this is all embedded right into the heart
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  Speaker 1: of our industrial strategies. We've got kinishkin Narayan here meeting
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  Speaker 1: with Andy Burnham last week to talk about being reappointed
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  Speaker 1: as AI Minister. How exciting it is the fact that
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  Speaker 1: we're going to reindustrialize with AI manufacturing British security narrowlaser
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  Speaker 1: relies on AI has to work for people. There's an
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  Speaker 1: exceptional team in the Cabinet Office who are going to
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  Speaker 1: help put this whole thing together. And importantly, right at
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  Speaker 1: the bottle there you can see that he went to
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  Speaker 1: his first Privy Council meeting. So actually this guy with
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  Speaker 1: his AI agenda is going right up to the King,
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  Speaker 1: as you probably expect.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just going to say this is real news.
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  Speaker 2: This is what's really happening in the country, and of
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  Speaker 2: course it's news that is not going to be reported
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  Speaker 2: on the BBC because they do not want people informed.
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  Speaker 2: If you're informed, you can challenge it absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, now we're at time, but I will just show
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  Speaker 1: you a little clip of me flying a flag on
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  Speaker 1: top of Sheep's tour in Dartmoor on the weekend and
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  Speaker 1: almost getting knocks off the side of the hill to
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  Speaker 1: be honest with you, because it was blowing an absolute gale.
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  Speaker 1: But that is this in George's Cross and the thirty
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  Speaker 1: nine county flags of England. And I think that actually
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  Speaker 1: when we think about our country, this is the level
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  Speaker 1: that we should be thinking about it.
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  Speaker 2: That is the flag. Effectively the local government reorganization that
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  Speaker 2: the government's pushing wants and Andy Burnham want to rip apart.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: I do not want any part of the historical significance
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  Speaker 2: of that flag constitutional significant. They want that ripped to pieces.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the history, the mythology, the landscape, all of it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So well, good to see you flying the flag, yeah, Ben,
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  Speaker 2: And what a difference from central London. Yes, you'll be
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  Speaker 2: getting the same effect.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's certainly not, certainly not. I'm still still enjoying
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  Speaker 1: my I'm down here. So anyway, that's all we have
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