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If you are a personal trainer, you need to look personally trained..? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang, Hey, wake up and the
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  Speaker 1: club on nine four seven.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you now, the world has gone crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Why would you say that.
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  Speaker 2: This thing of wanting to be politically correct the whole time,
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  Speaker 2: you guys have gone crazy. This lady's name is Angelique Doberman.
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  Speaker 2: She goes as at the Lean and girl at the
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  Speaker 2: Underscore Lean Underscore Goal Right. She posted a video on
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  Speaker 2: social media asking how you can be a personal trainer
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  Speaker 2: if you do not look personally trained yourself? People? Dragon, you, guys, dragger,
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  Speaker 2: She's got a point. She's not lying. Why would you
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  Speaker 2: go to a personal trainers who's not in shape?
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  Speaker 3: Guys? So how deep did she go in here?
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  Speaker 4: Can someone just explain something to me? How are you
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  Speaker 4: a personal trainer and you are personally not trained?
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  Speaker 5: Not saying you need to look like you live in
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  Speaker 5: the gym, Like, give me one sign that you know
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  Speaker 5: what you're doing over here? A vain muscle something?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 7: Anything? Really, because when you're demonstrating my exercises to me,
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  Speaker 7: I need to be looking at you thinking yes, I
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  Speaker 7: also want my arms to look like I'm looking at
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  Speaker 7: you thinking this man needs a trainer? Should I be
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  Speaker 7: training him? What is their motivational strategy.
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  Speaker 2: Is it like reverse psychology?
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  Speaker 8: Standing there like you don't want to end up like me?
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  Speaker 8: It's like going to agentis that has no teeth?
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  Speaker 7: What happened here? It's like you're a swimming instructor wearing
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  Speaker 7: armbands and I'm supposed to trust you.
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  Speaker 3: Does she got dragged?
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  Speaker 9: You don't?
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  Speaker 2: She ended up deleting it? Antik, my baby, I'm talking
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  Speaker 2: to you. You post your video again because you said
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  Speaker 2: nothing wrong, and don't listen to this lady.
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  Speaker 9: This is a seasoned vetera of the Internet wars.
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  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, any league, I stand with you, and
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  Speaker 2: it's okay. When you know you're right, you don't have
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  Speaker 2: to have anyone stand with you, Angie League. Is she
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  Speaker 2: right though she is.
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  Speaker 3: Very quiet? Yes?
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  Speaker 6: Because I don't agree with her. I really don't agree
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  Speaker 6: with her. I don't believe that you need to look
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  Speaker 6: like a personal trainer to be a personal trainer.
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  Speaker 3: Like I would rather go to a woman.
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  Speaker 6: In her like late forties to early fifties who can
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  Speaker 6: understand what I'm going through, whose body might not be
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  Speaker 6: she might not have a vein or a muscle like
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  Speaker 6: Angelique said, but will understand what I am going through.
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  Speaker 6: How delicious a pie is and how hard it is
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  Speaker 6: to dodge it, and then give me the right exercises.
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  Speaker 6: I would rather go to somebody who's focused on how
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  Speaker 6: I'm squatting than somebody who's got a six pack, but
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  Speaker 6: it's on their phone while they're training me.
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  Speaker 2: But she says, she says, you've got to look good,
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  Speaker 2: she says, she doesn't. You don't need to be built
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  Speaker 2: like a like a house. You don't be skinny, you
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  Speaker 2: don't have to be skinny, you don't have to have
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  Speaker 2: to six pack. But there's no ways that you, as
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  Speaker 2: my personal trainer, can be overweight. Guys, No, no.
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  Speaker 3: I actually do agree with you on this one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I I'm not saying. I'm not saying that you've
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  Speaker 1: got to look like you know? He man, right, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's not what I'm saying. But you can't. I just can't.
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  Speaker 1: You as a personal trainer and you are overweight or
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  Speaker 1: whatever the case might be, Like it's for me, that
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  Speaker 1: would be weird.
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  Speaker 3: It would be weird.
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  Speaker 2: I have to look at your body and be like
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  Speaker 2: that is attainable.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 2: I want to be lean because like right now, I'm
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  Speaker 2: a size fourteen. And let's say I wanted to become
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  Speaker 2: a size twelve or size ten. I can't go to
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  Speaker 2: somebody who's a size eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: No you can't.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't.
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  Speaker 6: No, you can if that person, if that person is
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  Speaker 6: fully invested in you and getting you on track and
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  Speaker 6: is like, I know how hard it is because I've
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  Speaker 6: been there and maybe I've gone through something and now
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  Speaker 6: I'm big again, et cetera. I really don't see a
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  Speaker 6: problem with this, guys.
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  Speaker 2: So how would you know they can do that if
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  Speaker 2: they don't look like they can do that.
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  Speaker 6: Well, generally they've got like pictures from before. That's fine,
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  Speaker 6: it's a reverse before and offer, guys. So you're telling okay,
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  Speaker 6: so you're basically telling me that unless you have actually
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  Speaker 6: played football yourself, you can't be the coach.
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  Speaker 2: You have to have had some sort of like technical
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  Speaker 2: skill that you can show because most football which is
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  Speaker 2: used to play it, they didn't play it on an
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  Speaker 2: international level, but they played it somewhere somehow.
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  Speaker 1: I absolutely agree. I wouldn't go to a tennis court.
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  Speaker 1: You can't hit a tennis ball.
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  Speaker 2: Did Jake White play rugby? Yes, yes he did, but
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  Speaker 2: not he didn't play for the spring bugs, but he
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  Speaker 2: played it okay.
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  Speaker 6: So the physical trainer doesn't do high rocks, but they train,
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  Speaker 6: but you have to look like no, I have to
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  Speaker 6: look like it, because how do.
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  Speaker 2: You know that I'm activating my core properly if you've
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  Speaker 2: never activated your core?
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  Speaker 6: I don't I'm not in your body. I can't tell
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  Speaker 6: if you're activating your core. But you can look at
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  Speaker 6: me as a person, as a proper personal trainer, and
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  Speaker 6: say you're not activating your core properly because you're not
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  Speaker 6: lifting your pulvis high enough, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: How would you know?
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't disagree with Cindy on that.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't disagree that because I have the knowledge
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  Speaker 1: and the theory, I can't teach you. But I'm not
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  Speaker 1: going to get taught by someone who only looks like
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  Speaker 1: they have the knowledge and the theory, if that makes
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  Speaker 1: sense to you. So it's like, like, to your point,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be with a personal trainer who's
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  Speaker 1: completely overweight, even though they might know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 1: It's not the kind of it's not how I see it.
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  Speaker 1: It's you've got to be a you've got to look
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  Speaker 1: like you're the product.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm actually more inclined to go with a person
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  Speaker 6: who is overweight to train me than somebody with a
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  Speaker 6: six pack, because I feel like somebody with a six
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  Speaker 6: pack is just going to judge me every time I
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  Speaker 6: walk in because I don't have a six pack, whereas
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  Speaker 6: the person who's overweight is going to be more encouraging
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  Speaker 6: and be like.
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  Speaker 2: You can get there. That's how I feel. How can
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  Speaker 2: we get there?
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  Speaker 3: That's how I mean, slowly, how are.
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  Speaker 2: We going to get there? Oh? One one eighty eight
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  Speaker 2: thirty eight nine four seven. Angelique Doberman, the Underscore Lean
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  Speaker 2: Underscore Goal, posted a video on social media asking how
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  Speaker 2: you can be a personal trainer if you don't look
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  Speaker 2: personally trained? You guys, drag this little dolly to howl
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  Speaker 2: and back on business class.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it is actually quite actic.
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  Speaker 2: She was that she.
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  Speaker 3: Was going to look.
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  Speaker 1: It's in her name as well, the Underscore Lean Underscore Girl.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, I'm just saying that I don't think she
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  Speaker 1: deserved what she got there.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: Zero eighty four double zero double zero nine four seven.
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  Speaker 2: You are characteristically quiet.
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  Speaker 9: I've never been more unqualified to participate in that godless no,
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  Speaker 9: according to think that you can. I mean, i'd say
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  Speaker 9: I'm sitting on the wall, but it might collapse.
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  Speaker 4: Can someone just explained something to me? How are you
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  Speaker 4: a personal trainer and you are personally not trained?
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  Speaker 5: Not saying you need to look like you live in
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  Speaker 5: the gym, Like, give me one sign that you know
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  Speaker 5: what you're doing over here, a baying muscle.
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  Speaker 10: Something, something, you know, anything, really.
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  Speaker 7: Because when you're demonstrating my exercises to me, I need
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  Speaker 7: to be looking at you thinking yes, I also want
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  Speaker 7: my arms to look like that, not looking at you
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  Speaker 7: thinking this man needs a trainer? Should I be training him?
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  Speaker 7: What is their motivational strategy? Is it like reverse psychology?
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  Speaker 8: Standing there like you don't want to end up like me?
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  Speaker 8: It's like going to agentist that has no teeth. What
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  Speaker 8: happened here?
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  Speaker 7: It's like you're swimming instructor wearing arm dance and I'm
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  Speaker 7: supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: Trust you Personal trainers like a swarm of be saved sting.
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  Speaker 6: So we're judging coaching qualifications, bioesthetics now from navigating all
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  Speaker 6: the eating disorders you name them.
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  Speaker 8: I had it to.
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  Speaker 6: All my personal training friends out there.
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  Speaker 4: You are so worthy, are standing on the platform that
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  Speaker 4: you are standing on.
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  Speaker 9: People can hire a trainer for thousands of reasons and
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  Speaker 9: that's between the client and the trainer.
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  Speaker 2: They're perfectly fine on minding their own business. But it
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  Speaker 2: seems like you guys can Yeah, but this is you, guys,
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  Speaker 2: not minding your own business. Because that's her, that's her.
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  Speaker 2: Why do other personal trainers have to jump on board
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  Speaker 2: and drag her because you guys don't like it. Guys,
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  Speaker 2: there's one place where diversity doesn't happen. It's at the gym.
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  Speaker 2: We can't be like, oh no, guys, excuse me no,
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  Speaker 2: because now we're doing this thing of like everyone is
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  Speaker 2: allowed to do this. Yes, guys, you can do it,
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  Speaker 2: but if you want to be a personal trainer, you
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  Speaker 2: have to look like you can do it.
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  Speaker 9: But well, clearly there's enough divergence on the issue for
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  Speaker 9: other people.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, people are even doing.
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  Speaker 9: Motivational videos now, they're saying that you're worthy.
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  Speaker 3: They know of the.
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  Speaker 2: Stage of Angelique is that people think she's mean and
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  Speaker 2: people think that she's privileged because she's naturally built like that.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's the issue. What she's saying is not wrong.
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  Speaker 2: I just think maybe it's how she said.
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  Speaker 9: It delivery I was gonna say that it does sound
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  Speaker 9: like a.
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  Speaker 3: Dig, and you can see how people will be offended.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I absolutely stand by the fact that you
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  Speaker 6: don't need to be one hundred percent in shape and
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  Speaker 6: lean and whatever to be a great personal trainer. I
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  Speaker 6: really don't believe it. I believe overweight people can be
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  Speaker 6: phenomenal personal trainers if they show you the right methods
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  Speaker 6: and they're good at their job.
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  Speaker 2: I don't believe.
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  Speaker 3: You have to look the part.
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  Speaker 2: I am with Angelicire. You have to look their part.
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  Speaker 2: I can't trust you if you look otherwise.
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  Speaker 11: Oh no, no, no, no, good morning team.
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  Speaker 2: How on earth are you selling as a fake dream?
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  Speaker 9: You're in the business of selling image, so look the parts.
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  Speaker 3: She is very right.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, what am I paying you for achieving zero?
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  Speaker 3: Just because you're strong doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna have muscles.
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  Speaker 2: This topic is rubbing me up the wrong way.
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  Speaker 3: Look the part. Don't give us fake dreams. It's unfortunately.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's unfortunately what it is.
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  Speaker 1: If if you're gonna be selling yourself as a professional
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  Speaker 1: service as a trainer, I'm not saying that you've got
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  Speaker 1: to be like muscled and vained.
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  Speaker 3: Or super skinny if you're a lady.
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  Speaker 1: But you've got to at least look like you're fit
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  Speaker 1: and you can do something.
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  Speaker 2: I think you have to look like you constantly are
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  Speaker 2: making the tough decisions on what to eat, on how
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  Speaker 2: long you're going to train, if you're going to show
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  Speaker 2: up at the gym, So something something in you must
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  Speaker 2: look like you make tough decisions because when you go
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  Speaker 2: into the gym and you go on a personal health journey,
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  Speaker 2: it's all about discipline.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we got to say sacrifice.
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  Speaker 2: What are you sacrificing if you're not in shape?
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  Speaker 9: Although sometimes making a decision where I'm having two pieces
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  Speaker 9: of steak or wild, it's a tough decision.
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  Speaker 2: Ask me, Amanda, you are in Laurenzeville the place. Hello, Hello, Amanda,
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  Speaker 2: I am.
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  Speaker 12: A wors ANGELA put video percuption must ask I needed
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  Speaker 12: to give a crocodile skin. I do not think it
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  Speaker 12: was wrong. You have to look a part. You have
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  Speaker 12: to like you don't have to be lean and skinny
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  Speaker 12: and everything, but you must look fit. You must look
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  Speaker 12: like you know what you're doing. I remember when I
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  Speaker 12: used to go to gym. I run now only, but
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  Speaker 12: I'm not Lian but I'm ware. I want to be
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  Speaker 12: when the other instructions that gave us, what are those things?
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  Speaker 12: A step class or the aerobics? There was one with
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  Speaker 12: you know, can.
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  Speaker 2: Like, my guy, what am I doing this step class
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of?
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  Speaker 12: As much right, as much as it's my choice, I
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  Speaker 12: need to see, Okay, you know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 12: I can believe, I can trust what you're saying. You
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  Speaker 12: can't tell me to stop eating and come on.
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  Speaker 6: I am more inclined with a book to go to
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  Speaker 6: a step class with somebody else whose bop is also
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  Speaker 6: going to be flapping around as long as that person
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  Speaker 6: is in time and keeps up. And I've been to
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  Speaker 6: step classes where you are stepping, stepping, stepping, and the instructor,
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  Speaker 6: who looks amazing, stops and goes, okay, give me five,
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  Speaker 6: and they're catching their breath and you're carrying on. Give
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  Speaker 6: me the person with the book who's struggling through the
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  Speaker 6: class with me.
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  Speaker 2: But then let's say three months down the line, both
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  Speaker 2: of you covers are still there. Then what then then
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  Speaker 2: that's an eating This.
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  Speaker 1: Is the thing for me is that everyone's welcome in
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  Speaker 1: the gym. I do believe that shape, size, doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: That's for us all.
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  Speaker 2: We are all the training parts.
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  Speaker 1: But then the professionals there they need to they need
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  Speaker 1: to look like they can do this.
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  Speaker 9: No, not really, but also because to be fair your trainer,
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  Speaker 9: the motivation could mean that their cautionary tail. Because if
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  Speaker 9: I was a trainer, I would arrive every day and say,
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  Speaker 9: if you don't do these push ups, you look at me.
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  Speaker 3: This is what I waits. Michael, get to stay.
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  Speaker 2: But I don't think anybody would come to you and
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  Speaker 2: pay you money because they already know what the before
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  Speaker 2: picture looks like. They are walking and looking at it
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  Speaker 2: in the mirror. No one is gonna guys person trying
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  Speaker 2: like an it be three grand a months. Why would
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  Speaker 2: you give three grand amounts to somebody who doesn't look
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  Speaker 2: like they can push you to be where you need
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  Speaker 2: to be because they can't push.
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  Speaker 9: Themselves, but simply says they are pushing themselves. They just
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  Speaker 9: understand that it's gradual. They meet you at your point
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  Speaker 9: of me.
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  Speaker 6: This is why there are different people for everybody in
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  Speaker 6: the world. You guys can go to your six pack
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  Speaker 6: trainers and timber Killa and I will eat pies.
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  Speaker 2: With our bigger training.
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  Speaker 3: We know we are.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm waiting for a call from someone that
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  Speaker 1: says I'm worth a bigger trainer.
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  Speaker 3: Where are they?
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  Speaker 6: They're in the gym training with the person or not
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  Speaker 6: the trainer?
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  Speaker 3: The drive through?
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  Speaker 2: Oh one eight thirty eight nine four seven. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think Angelique Doberman was wrong to say, if you are
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  Speaker 2: going to be a personal trainer, you have to look
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  Speaker 2: personally trained.
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  Speaker 4: Can someone just explained something to me? How are you
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  Speaker 4: a personal trainer and you are personally not trained?
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  Speaker 5: Not saying you need to look like you live in
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  Speaker 5: the gym, Like give me one sign that you know
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  Speaker 5: what you're doing over here? Vain something you know anything?
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  Speaker 7: Really? Because when you're demonstrating my exercises to me, I
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  Speaker 7: need to be looking at you thinking yes, I also
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  Speaker 7: want my arms to look like that, not looking at
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  Speaker 7: you thinking this man needs a trainer? Should I be
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  Speaker 7: training him? What is their motivational strategy? Is it like
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  Speaker 7: reverse psychology?
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  Speaker 8: Standing there like you don't want to end up like me?
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  Speaker 8: It's like going to agentist that has no teeth?
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  Speaker 7: What happened here? It's like you're swimming instructor wearing armbands
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  Speaker 7: and I'm supposed to trust.
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  Speaker 2: You Angelik is one hundred percent correct, absolutely spot on.
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  Speaker 13: Guys.
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  Speaker 12: Let's be real.
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  Speaker 3: We can all have our own opinions, which we do,
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  Speaker 3: but we don't have to insult or hurt people whilst
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  Speaker 3: delivering our opinion.
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  Speaker 2: This person needs to represent exactly what they're selling.
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  Speaker 14: There's absolutely nothing wrong with being trained by somebody who
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  Speaker 14: knows what they're doing and doesn't necessarily look the part.
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  Speaker 2: Because let's just shift this a little. Do all doctors
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  Speaker 2: not drink alcohol and not smoke?
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  Speaker 3: Yet?
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  Speaker 14: Do they tell everyone to quit alcohol and quit smoking?
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  Speaker 3: No?
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  Speaker 14: Does the gun yet? Actually have somebody with the skin
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  Speaker 14: that doesn't have any blemishes and any dark marks?
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  Speaker 11: No?
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  Speaker 1: Guys, come on, Yeah, look, I mean I think some
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  Speaker 1: of those examples are going a little bit far. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but to the point same. I mean, here's the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: If you're going to a skin specialist and the skins
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  Speaker 1: and the skin specialist skin, it's not good.
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  Speaker 3: Is a mess?
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  Speaker 1: Right for reasons that you obviously they can't change, maybe
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  Speaker 1: they can't chect, But would you have a second view
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  Speaker 1: on that? You know, so, would you take a second
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  Speaker 1: look on that?
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  Speaker 2: As a skin specialist, your face is the advert and
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  Speaker 2: I have terrible skin. So I'm going to you because
• 14:39
  Speaker 2: I've got terrible skin. Right, So if you are telling
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: me that you don't have good skin, you've tried everything,
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to help you. No, I'm going to
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: go to somebody else because you've tried whatever it is
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: you want to sell me and it doesn't work. So
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: how do you know that it's going to work on me?
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: And I just have to be clear about the example,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: because we're talking about this in the gym, right, I'm
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: not saying it's six packs, it's lean, it's two percent
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: body fat. That doesn't mean someone's fit, that doesn't mean
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: someone's strong. But the person that's training you at least
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: needs to look the part.
• 15:11
  Speaker 2: So then she apologized.
• 15:12
  Speaker 8: Miss Angelique, my friends, it seems like I got a
• 15:16
  Speaker 8: little bit too cheeky the other day and my post
• 15:19
  Speaker 8: about the personal trainers landed in a way that I
• 15:22
  Speaker 8: absolutely did not intend. So to my community and to
• 15:25
  Speaker 8: the trainers that felt hurt by this, I am genuinely sorry.
• 15:28
  Speaker 8: Like you girls know my heart, I absolutely wasn't saying
• 15:31
  Speaker 8: that your body defines your worth, your knowledge, or your
• 15:34
  Speaker 8: ability as a trainer. I was saying, in my usual
• 15:37
  Speaker 8: unfaultered way, but I am personally motivated by someone who
• 15:40
  Speaker 8: practices what they preach.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: Would you go to a public speaking coach who can't.
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: Speak, Probably not.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't.
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: Guys.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: You literally are the adverts to what you're selling. Danny,
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: You and Walkerville, good morning, my guy, good morning. Sorry,
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: it says Dannia, my thing, Hello, my angel? How are you.
• 16:02
  Speaker 14: Well?
• 16:02
  Speaker 13: Thanks?
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: And you guys, Yeah, I talked to us. We're good,
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: We're good.
• 16:06
  Speaker 13: And then i'd like to While I do agree that
• 16:10
  Speaker 13: the marketing you need to be fit the marketing, or
• 16:13
  Speaker 13: you need to look the part for the marketing, we
• 16:16
  Speaker 13: also need to remember it's particularly worth female trainers. You know,
• 16:20
  Speaker 13: female trainers.
• 16:22
  Speaker 10: They're human.
• 16:23
  Speaker 13: We have indo mutisis, they have p c o s,
• 16:25
  Speaker 13: you know, so the body fluctuates, so to have that
• 16:30
  Speaker 13: aesthetic three hundred and sixty five days of the year
• 16:32
  Speaker 13: is just unsustainable. We also need to remember that a
• 16:37
  Speaker 13: lot of the personal trainers we have around are on
• 16:41
  Speaker 13: ped and are on peptites, so again not sustainable.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: It's a massive claim.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, Danny, you're opening You're going
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: to open up the floodgates here, and I think we
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: just want to say that, Yeah, I'm not none of
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: us are saying six packs twelve months round, right, that's
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: not that's sustainable, that's not what we're saying.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: But fit, you gotta look fit.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: So for instance, then let me tell you my personal trainer. Right,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: he's a bodybuilder and he has to be like in
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: hectic shape because he competes internationally six months eight months
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: of the year. The other four months he laid his
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: body like just you know, relax. So but he doesn't
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: go overweight, he doesn't go flabby. He's still like trim
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and fit. But it's not the house that he is
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: when he is like training competing internationally, but he's just
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: bul But he's training, so I can even in if
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I had to just go to him in the four
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: months where his body is not ripped, you know, it's
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: still fine because I can see that there's some sort
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: of maintenance going on. And to your point about steroids,
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: massive claim that we don't have proof, so we're not
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: gonna just stand on that and say it's true. But
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you must remember, by the time they're using steroids, they
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: already did the work on their bodies and now they
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: just want that extra ten percent, which is a ten
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: percent that we're saying we don't care for that, But
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: just look like there is some sort of discipline and
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: some sort of sacrifice and some sort of plan that
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: you yourself embark on before you tell me to embark
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 18:06
  Speaker 13: Don't take away from the knowledge that these personal trainers have.
• 18:09
  Speaker 13: I mean, there's also a keep in mind that they
• 18:11
  Speaker 13: are still a human, They are still that you know,
• 18:13
  Speaker 13: they still have a family at home. Some trainers. I mean,
• 18:16
  Speaker 13: there was one influencer on Instagram that I watched the
• 18:19
  Speaker 13: video last night. I mean, she's brilliant, but she was
• 18:24
  Speaker 13: in the hospital with her father for six months and
• 18:27
  Speaker 13: she said the last thing that she was worried about
• 18:30
  Speaker 13: is going to the gym, you know. But that did
• 18:31
  Speaker 13: not take away from the knowledge that she had. So
• 18:34
  Speaker 13: her body did let her body go a little bit
• 18:36
  Speaker 13: because of the stress, but I did not subtract from
• 18:41
  Speaker 13: the knowledge that she has in order to be able
• 18:43
  Speaker 13: to train other people to look their best.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And you know what, her clients will know that. But
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I guarantee you her clients wouldn't have been her clients
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: if at the beginning, at the genesis of the relationship,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: she was overweight. Her clients will know that, but you're
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: not going to attract any new clients if your body
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: doesn't look like what I want to look at.
• 19:01
  Speaker 13: Well, that's why I go back to the point of
• 19:03
  Speaker 13: the marketing aesthetic. But we also need to look at
• 19:05
  Speaker 13: what is sustainable these bodybubbles and these personal trainers are
• 19:10
  Speaker 13: spending is a whole day gives the regular nunet to five,
• 19:14
  Speaker 13: we probably only have two hours to spare, So it's
• 19:17
  Speaker 13: actually not sustainable. If you're looking at your trainer saying, oh,
• 19:20
  Speaker 13: I want to look like.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: That, Exactly there's to be But that is the point
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: that is that you know you're not going to get there.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And I use this example because I have I get
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: tennis coaching right, and I get tennis coaching by.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: Oaks that are proper pros.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I know that if I play for the next ten years,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I'll never catch up to how good they are. But
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I go to them because they have they can play
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: that well and they have the knowledge, and I get
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: better and better as we go. You're not going to
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: turn into smooth overnight like that's a that's a ten
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: to fifteen year journey.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: To get because your trainer also has to look like
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: I know the shortcuts? Do you know what I'm saying?
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: No one has all this time. You're wasting your time
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: doing this. You're wasting your time doing that. But if
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: you're not knowledge, yes, that's the knowledge part. But if
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: you know the short cut, why don't you? Why don't
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: you look like you know them? Deedre, we're running out
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: of time, very quickly talk to me. You say you're
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: a coach.
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: Eh, Yes, I had an iron Man coach. I did
• 20:13
  Speaker 10: my Iron Man in twenty twenty three.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Let's go.
• 20:16
  Speaker 10: And he does not look the part. He is naturally
• 20:20
  Speaker 10: big man, but he did iron Man himself. So he
• 20:24
  Speaker 10: was saying, swimming with me, cycling with me, running with me,
• 20:28
  Speaker 10: taking part in different competitions. And he was the best
• 20:32
  Speaker 10: ever coach because he did himself. He had real challenges,
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: He was a real person, and a lot of athletes
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: don't want to even give him a chance because he's
• 20:42
  Speaker 10: quite big, But as I actually do, he would absolutely
• 20:46
  Speaker 10: take them to the best level ever.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Theeter is he big or is he fat?
• 20:52
  Speaker 10: Is naturally big and it's a tumming.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's fine because he's fifty fifty five sixty. Obviously your
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: body is gonna change, right. But the point is that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: for he's not, he's not. You can't be completely overwhite
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and do what you guys are doing. You'll never keep up.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: You'll never keep up. And also, guys, let's talk about
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: the danger of being overweight and unfit and fat and
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: embarking on these things. You're going to strain your heart.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: It's very dangerous. So that's another reason why you have
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: to have a personal trainer who embodies what you are
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: going through, is that they know exactly how far to
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: push the limits of your body. Be like, are you're
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: not there yet? You're not gonna do that? Do you
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: know what I'm saying?
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: Correct?
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: It would appear that we've opened up Pandora's box here
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: because Angelique Doberman, the lady in question, here with her
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: video that went viral where she said, if your personal trainer,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: you have to look personally trained. Her sister Candace is
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: on the line. Good morning, Candace, Welcome to Annelia in
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: the Clouds.
• 21:49
  Speaker 11: How what an incredible, what an incredible point of view
• 21:58
  Speaker 11: you've had, And it's been really refreshing to hear somebody
• 22:02
  Speaker 11: with such a large platform actually shy. And I think
• 22:06
  Speaker 11: after the week that we've had and how Angelique has
• 22:09
  Speaker 11: been bullied. It's it's obviously tough to have an opinion
• 22:13
  Speaker 11: at the stage and as you said, probably need crocodile
• 22:18
  Speaker 11: skin and this industry. But I guess I was just
• 22:22
  Speaker 11: proning in to say, you know, Angelique has I think
• 22:26
  Speaker 11: thirty five thousand women have been through her program. She
• 22:29
  Speaker 11: has changed, like changed the lives of people. She's extreme.
• 22:34
  Speaker 11: I'm not saying this isn't just a sister, but I like,
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: I've been very close to the purpose mission that she's
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: had an empowering woman, and I think you know what
• 22:43
  Speaker 11: she's also seen in the process is that the reality
• 22:46
  Speaker 11: is that when you when you have such a large
• 22:49
  Speaker 11: platform and you have empowered and taught people the science
• 22:53
  Speaker 11: behind macro counting and calories and calories out and the
• 22:58
  Speaker 11: science behind that, and empower them as individuals to manage
• 23:02
  Speaker 11: you know, their own physiques and be able to lose
• 23:05
  Speaker 11: weights in a healthy way and still eat the foods
• 23:08
  Speaker 11: you want. It's taken a huge percentage of market share
• 23:11
  Speaker 11: away from a lot of these micro influences and personal trainers,
• 23:16
  Speaker 11: and respect art to them, but the ones that used
• 23:20
  Speaker 11: her video as reaction videos to grow their own platforms
• 23:25
  Speaker 11: and do exactly what they were calling her out for,
• 23:28
  Speaker 11: which was willing. Has been very interesting to see.
• 23:33
  Speaker 10: And I think with her.
• 23:35
  Speaker 11: Apology video yesterday, which you know, she really was about
• 23:38
  Speaker 11: her community more than anything else, that she wanted to
• 23:41
  Speaker 11: give a platform to to engage because I think they
• 23:44
  Speaker 11: didn't want to engage on the other video in being
• 23:47
  Speaker 11: scared of being attacked. She really wanted to talk to them,
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: the people that she is close to, and she engages
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: engages within a daily basis. But I think it really
• 23:57
  Speaker 11: there was a huge call out of all of these people.
• 24:00
  Speaker 11: Some people as well that have actually said the same
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: thing if you scroll down some of their fees around
• 24:06
  Speaker 11: the importance of being in shape as personal trainers.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You know what it is. And that's the thing about
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: social media And when there's like a snowbally fit happening
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: in this tornado, A it's not as big as you
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: think it is, right, please and tell you, tell your
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: sister that it really isn't as big as And by
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: next week everybody will have forgotten and you know she
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: can carry on with her life and yeah, everything past us.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: She must be emotional. She's she's a public she's a
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: public figure in her spaces, right, so there is a
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: certain bit of responsibility that people expect from her. So, yeah,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: is her messaging wrong? No, she's right. But the way
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: she stated, I think delivery delivery because I do.
• 24:42
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I do want to say, Elia, that angel like Ange,
• 24:46
  Speaker 11: being who she is, has has taken this so seriously.
• 24:51
  Speaker 11: And you know, she We've had many family group calls
• 24:54
  Speaker 11: this week. He's like, you know, I really I've really
• 24:58
  Speaker 11: had a reflect on myself and I've had to take
• 25:01
  Speaker 11: it as a learning and you know, I think for
• 25:04
  Speaker 11: her it's been a huge growth and learning opportunity and
• 25:08
  Speaker 11: that is her spirit. So you know, she was like,
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: can I ever go to the gym again?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: You care to me?
• 25:14
  Speaker 11: I was like, my girl, you are such an inspiration
• 25:18
  Speaker 11: and we've seen that from everyone that's reached us, and
• 25:21
  Speaker 11: I just wanted to, you know, personally, phone in and
• 25:23
  Speaker 11: say like and loves her community. She is always empowering woman.
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: Both her and I've gone through we both lost city
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: kilograms in our lives, like through healthy wage lass and
• 25:34
  Speaker 11: being able to eat the things we love.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: And that's the point, right, Candles. The point here is
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: what she does, right, is you have to make the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: decisions that are difficult in order to get the results.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: And you know her now going back into the gym
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: and carrying on with her life is one of the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: things that she has to do that make her a
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: good personal trainer. Whether it's good or bad, you have
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: to just make the decision that gets you the results,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: and she must just carry on with her life. It
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: has been robust.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Wow, we are like out of time for everything. We
• 26:06
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• 26:09
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