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EP13 - Greg LaVecchia Invited us into Bloom HQ · GET ER DONE Podcast

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  unknown: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's up, everyone?
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Gitter Done podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to another episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is your host, Briston Reigns, co-host.
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  SPEAKER_05: Aaron Dunn.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't use the Gunner Dunn tagline you and Bray didn't use.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, get or done though.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's an insight thing.
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to another episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was just telling Aaron that I love this podcast and this uh these episodes because they're not structured, which is good and bad.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I just like you know, talking about you know everything that's going on.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um as of today, this morning, I mean this podcast is gonna upload it today, but as of today, surprisingly, for the first time, Texas is a blue state, yeah, which is interesting.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh again, this podcast is mainly about fitness, faith, and like business.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: But um, you know, there are government and politics and policies and things that can affect all three of those areas.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, maybe not fitness, but faith in business, definitely, especially business.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, don't take the fitness, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but like there's definitely some faith in business elements involved in politics.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Texas is a blue state.
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  SPEAKER_01: Never thought I'd see that.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it is pretty wild.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's crazy.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so first time that uh so we were talking about it earlier.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh Abbott was governor for 12 years, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: And then the first time in 30 years since we've had a Democratic governor.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's insane.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, and I I didn't even know who was running for governor until the elections last night, and I saw her in the lead and I was like, who is this?
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I looked her up, and uh, I still don't know hardly anything about her.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: But um I didn't even know she was running.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: I just knew Abbott wins every year, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Every midterm.
• 1:51
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I didn't never thought there would I never thought there'd be an opponent opponent that would win.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I was just always used to Greg Abbott winning.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then the uh the Senate race, again, we talked about that on the last episode, but man, they Republicans just need to put in like cooler people.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um like yeah, honestly, if Republicans put in like um you know, cooler, cooler kind of people, you know, young, cool people that they got some swag, they'd have a better time.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's what the Democrats have done.
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  SPEAKER_01: They put in some really cool people that got swag, like Loki, Talerico's got some swag.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like he does.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh well, and they did the work that like you would expect a politician to do.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_05: I feel like, you know, uh the Republican class has been in power for such a long time, and I think they slept on that.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_05: And they're like, they're like, well, we don't have to debate, we don't have to go to most places, we don't have to go to Joe Rogan's podcasts, yeah, exactly, or anything else.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like, yeah, and I think that's a big reason why like I didn't even really think about the governor race at all because he wasn't really in places.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_05: He campaigned and I saw some commercials, but yeah, he didn't try to reach me.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, and I don't want to be clear to you on this podcast.
• 3:16
  SPEAKER_01: I want to be clear.
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I I did vote for the Republican Party for this election, um, just because we talked about it last um episode, but from just the faith standpoint, um, like protecting the lives of the unborn, a lot of faith things, theological debates around all that, but um yeah, so I say that saying the Republican Party should have put in better people, so yeah, and they really let the ball like they really just like miss the bowling pins, man.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, just like with what's been going on, anyways.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but um, so that's interesting.
• 3:52
  SPEAKER_01: And uh last night I was watching the live news polls on TV, and I was like, I literally said, I told you this this morning, but I said, um, this is like watching the NFL uh semifinals for the Super Bowl, except it's for the corporation of America instead of instead of the NFL.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because at the end of the day, government's a business, it's a giant business, it's a giant corporation that runs the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so anyways, but you know what?
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  SPEAKER_01: We're it we woke up the next day, and at least as of right now, our lives are still the same.
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  SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_05: At least right now, you know, God's in control ultimately.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's it.
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  SPEAKER_05: And uh, you know, we're gonna keep on keeping on.
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  SPEAKER_05: And you know, I think I think Texas is a strong state.
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  SPEAKER_05: I didn't I ended up not voting at all.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh, I moved, and then like last minute I checked of like where where do I even vote?
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_05: Because it's like two different counties, and like I would have had to submit a thing uh by October 30th, and I just kind of missed the vote.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like okay, well, uh a few years ago when I moved, I um was new to a county and I moved, and because I was so new, I couldn't even vote.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: I believe that because I just moved there, yeah.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know, whatever.
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  SPEAKER_05: Uh it's okay.
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  SPEAKER_05: My one vote.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, our what if it was one vote?
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_01: Our our co I mean our counties where we live are in East Texas were all red, yeah.
• 5:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like either way, like, you know.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um some bigger cities, man.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: Concrete jungles, yeah.
• 5:36
  SPEAKER_01: The blue, yeah.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, anyways, but I want to talk about a few things today.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, first thing I want to talk about was our super cool experience uh last week of um kind of what we did with Bloom and Greg LaVecchia.
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um I want to talk about that real quick because that was super cool.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_01: So last podcast, we were like, hey, we're gonna drive out to Bloom headquarters with a sign and try to get them to sponsor.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_01: We did it.
• 6:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, we went out there.
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I guess we'll talk about that real quick.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: So we woke up Wednesday morning.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, got up at 1 30 a.m.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_01: drove to your house, picked you up, and uh we started to get out there, stopped at Whataburger and got a uh what the crap was that called?
• 6:31
  SPEAKER_05: Sausage, egg, and cheese.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: Got a sausage egg and cheese biscuit.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and uh we drove a couple more hours, two more hours.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: Honestly, time went fast.
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we had great conversation.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: A few hours into driving to Bloom headquarters in Austin, um, I start getting feeling like I need to throw up.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I uh stop at a gas station, use it, get back in the truck, it starts to get worse.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: And then I we start driving, and I pull over on the side of the interstate, get out of the truck, barf my guts out, throw up, get back in, and the whole time I could only just taste that freaking water burger's biscuit.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know what you were thinking while I was throwing up.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_05: I I just felt bad for you, man.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, dang, this is not ideal.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: I I I legitimately think it was like whatever was in the sausage, plus all the who knows who who knows what kind of oil is in the biscuit.
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh just not settling right in my stomach.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_05: I don't usually eat like junk food, especially at three in the morning or whatever time it was.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um so then we pull up to the Bloom Headquarters, and when we get there, we kind of park on the side of the side of the building, and uh we were trying to figure out like where everybody entered at.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: And so we went to the side of the building where we think everybody entered at.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_01: And uh, I got my sign out, and as soon as I busted that sign out, we were just taking pictures and videos for a little bit, and we got there at like 6 a.m.
• 8:07
  SPEAKER_01: or something.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: 6 30.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a five-hour drive to get there.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um 6 30.
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't know if people were gonna show up at 7, if their work started at 8.
• 8:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but in the middle of us getting there, like 30 minutes after skiing there, and I'm holding the sign on the side of the sidewalk, there's runners running by, but there's like nobody there yet.
• 8:32
  SPEAKER_01: I throw up again.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and this time though, I mean it was a lot, but this time it was like the final throw up.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, I get all that freaking sausage out of my stomach.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think it was a sausage, man.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, get the sausage out, and then uh we pick the sign back up.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_01: At that point, I'm good.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then we're standing there waiting for hours, and uh, this Catalite pulls up, and uh he drives through, looks at our sign, drives through the gate, parks in the parking lot at the Bloom headquarters, and he walks out to us.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, Wait, and this dude's looking, he's an older guy, uh nice suit jacket, a top black top hat, yeah, like a fedora looking thing.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, he looks security.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_05: He looked, yeah, he looks like okay, yeah, legit.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_01: So he walks out, and I'm like, crap, he's about to tell us to leave because they had a sign outside their building that said, like, no soliciting and no trespassing, like on their property, but we were on public sidewalk.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so this dude pulls up, walks to the gate, and he's like, super nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hey, what you guys get going on?
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, we want Bloom to sponsor our races.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_01: Uh we want them to be the drink sponsor of all of our running events we do across the United States.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_01: And uh the guy was like, Oh, that's super cool.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: Let me take a picture and send it to the team.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, picture walks back.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he picks up this Mercedes van, drives out, and then we're just kind of waiting there for another hour.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and we did get intel that he was the driver, yes.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: So, okay, so he did introduce himself as the driver.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_01: So this dude gets paid to drive Greg around, yeah.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Which I thought was pretty cool.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine your job just driving around a billionaire, you know, it's a pretty cool job.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um 8:30.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Greg pulls in.
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Well, actually, I don't even know if it's Greg.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_01: The Mercedes van pulls in, and I don't know who's in the van, the windows are all blacked out, right?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: But I standing there with my sign.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you go to my Instagram, you can see the whole video, you can see the pictures.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: You're across the street recording, and I got my sign up, and the Mercedes van pulls in, goes through the gate, and I'm standing there with my sign, and as I'm standing there, standing there with my sign, this guy in a beat up Ram pickup truck pulls up.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Hey, what's your website?
• 11:09
  SPEAKER_01: And I tell him, and he's like, Okay, he's like, I'm Greg's barber, like the CEO of Balloon, the guy who, the guy who's a billionaire, the guy who founded and created Bloom.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Yeah, I'm his barber.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, oh, okay.
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then as soon as he says that and drives off, I turn around, and there's freaking Greg with his assistant or whoever the other guy was.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: And Greg looks at us as he's getting out of this Mercedes van and he waves us in.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I look at you and I'm like, Bro, I'm like, he's waving us in.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: And then I I think I yelled, like, yo, what's up, Greg?
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um, yeah, and then that was the moment we were like, mission accomplished.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, wow, okay.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_05: So I mean, after hours of of driving, uh five hours, yeah, and uh two hours of waiting and the and the Whataburger debacle, and you know, the anticipation and the and the man, it's eight o'clock and nobody's nobody is at this office.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what is going on?
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_05: Where's everybody working?
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_01: We get we get here here eight, yeah, where we work there, yeah.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Nine, whatever.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I guess.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_05: What are y'all doing up?
• 12:17
  SPEAKER_05: I guess that's that's at Austin, Austin style.
• 12:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Austin time, yeah.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, that was awesome.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was awesome to uh to be welcomed.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then he starts waving us in, and I look over at you, and I'm like, bro, he's telling us to come in.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_01: His driver, at first I didn't believe him.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, wait, what are you sure?
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_01: And I look over at his driver, and his driver rolls down his window and goes, Come in.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And he opens the gate for us.
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_01: And so we grab our stuff, and then we walk in behind him, and then we walk into the Bloom headquarters behind Greg and this other guy.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_01: And Greg's carrying like this, like all these like Louis Vuitton bags, and yeah, and like dude's got like 50 grand of like fashion on them.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: And uh he opens the door, and I was just at that point, I was like extremely grateful and thankful because I was like, dude, like the fact that we even get to walk into the building is a win.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I was thinking we would show up, an executive would see her sign, have us schedule a meeting or email them, and that was it.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: I was not expecting for Greg himself to talk to us or ask us to come in, yeah.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: Beyond expectations.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so we walk in, and this thing is full of offices, but it's a cool workplace.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_05: 100%.
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it's a refabbed old like manufacturing facility, probably I mean, 100 years old, maybe something like that.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_05: I saw a video where they said they put like a million into it or something.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_05: Easy, easy, because it's like two layer, two levels, yeah.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_05: And so you could imagine it's like a catwalk on the second level, like around, and then on the bottom level, there's uh office desks and stuff like that.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_05: And then Greg's got the corner office, and I I thought it was so funny.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_05: It was like total boss move.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_05: He comes in, he's like, Alexa, good morning, and she's like, Good morning, and all the lights come on and stuff.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, dude, this guy's so dialed.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Dude's walking in, dude's walking in with his uh uh freaking uh nicotine pouches in his pocket, you know.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he walks in.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, that was so funny when he did that.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Alexa, turn the lights on.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no, it was good morning.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_05: He had a whole good morning, you know, algorithm set up.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, dude.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he just prompted that thing and everything was uh was firing up.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: And I was like, man, that's awesome.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_05: Very nice office.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and you yeah, and then he was like, Man, let's talk.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_05: Let's talk.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_05: What you got going on?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_05: You know, so he was very genuine, he seemed genuinely interested.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, really cool guy.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess he was feeling good that morning because like I mean, it's not every day somebody just like hey, come in, you know.
• 15:16
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I mean, some random uh the street.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um so, anyways, so we're in this office, and he's like, Hey, what do y'all got going on?
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I basically kind of tell him, like, hey, you know, we got 30,000 runners, uh, over a hundred events nationwide.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, we want to see if Bloom wanted to be the official drink sponsor.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I think he said something like, What kind of events you guys got going?
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I told him, Um, I was like, we do trail running events, uh, we launched a new brand called Outlast, which is like 15k every hour for six, twelve, or twenty four hours.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_01: It's super hot, and you know, it's kind of blown up.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: And uh he um basically said um he was like, Well, he's like, we don't really do paid sponsorships, and then he said our target market is more wellness, like health and wellness, not necessarily sports.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_01: And so basically, right then and there it was like no, we're not paying to be a sponsor.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: But he was like, We can send you some free or send you some cans of bloom for your event.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, dude, yeah.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, game.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like you basically told me no for the sponsorship.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'll take if you're gonna do free bloom, the fact that I'm even in the room with you, sick, yeah, free bloom, even more sick.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I was like, Yeah, cool, let's do it.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: 100%.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then he was like, All right, what's your email?
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh told him my email, and then while he was typing up an email, um, he was sending it to uh the person that would do that, I guess.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: He they started asking us questions about like how old's a business, what y'all's revenue, um how do y'all make y'all's money?
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: Is it sponsorships?
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, no, like we sponsorships are just cake on top, pretty much.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's what I said.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then uh is there anything else I'm missing from our conversation?
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: We were in freaking dude's office billionaire, yeah.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_05: And I mean, they they just they got curious about the business and how it was going.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_05: They were they were uh you know uh excited for us uh for you and and for the for the business itself.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, uh he got pumped about just the whole oh um he likes outlast format.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_05: I forgot about that part.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, he was like he was like uh he was talking to his assistant, we didn't get his name, but he was like, bro, have you heard about it's kind of like those backyard whatever that they they run for like days, and so you know he he kind of drew the line from backyard to outlast in terms of format and was like really excited about that because he's such a fitness guy, yeah.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_05: And so um that was cool to see.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: Forgot about that.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so in my video on my Instagram, there's a there's a video on there where if you slide to the right, you'll see a video of Greg like getting all amped, excited, putting his hands on the desk.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I was paying attention to him, not like the frame on the camera, so it's not the best.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh it's still a quiet video, but it works.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Uh the video though, like that clip is when he was like getting excited about like our format we had for Outlast when I told explained it to him.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, Oh, that's like the last person's thing.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Yeah, it's very similar.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so he was he he he yeah, his fitness brain was kind of going off on like the fitness challenge side.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, and he was explaining it to that assistant or business partner, whoever that guy was.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, and then uh he was like, All right, man, I sent you an email.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um dude actually sent me his real email.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he emailed me with his email.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, dude, I mean, hey, yeah, um uh he emailed me and attached his like person who I would talk to to get the bloom to our events.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: And uh they asked how far we drove, uh what time we woke up, you know, they're asking uh kind of like how crazy we were.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, how crazy we were basically.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um we ended up uh walking out of there and because it's gates.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Well, before that, we got hooked up with some bloom.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_05: They directed us to like they've got kind of like a little hangout lounge, I guess, area on the other side of the office with a little bloom mini fridge that has like the new product in it.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_05: So he hooked us up at the shorty, yeah.
• 19:37
  SPEAKER_01: We got strawberry shorty before it launched, yes, because it just launched a few days after that.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, exactly.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so got that, hooked up some of the team.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_05: I didn't try it, but yeah.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: After um, who worked for us, he tried it, he said he liked it.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, so we then we walked out of the building after they hooked us up with some free bloom.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: And when we walked out, the way we got in was the driver opened the gate using their remote in the car.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: When we walked out, driver wasn't there.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: We had no way to get out of the gate.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_01: So we were stuck.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_01: So I actually I was gonna go walk to the other gate, see if there's a way out there, and then you just walked up to the window and we were like, Hey, hey, we're stuck.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then Greg, I felt bad.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Greg walks out, and I was like, Oh, I'm sure this is the last thing he wants to do, is let these two two freaking whoever these guys are, take time 30 seconds to let these guys out.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but uh I felt bad him having to walk out.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_01: But he walked out and uh opened the gate for us, and I told him, I said, um, as he was opening the gate for us, I was like, hey man, uh, I said, uh, I was at Alex Ramosi's workshop a few weeks ago talking to Alex, and I said, Alex was copying your words, and Greg was like, Really?
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: What'd he say?
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, he kept using the word moonshot.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: Moonshot is a word that Greg started posting and using, like Greg started using that.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I was like, Alex kept saying moonshot, and he Greg thought that was the coolest thing.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Greg was like, Really?
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: I guess Greg looks up to Alex or something, I don't know.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: But um, yeah, he was like, Really?
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: And uh then we walked out and then we got in the truck and we were like all hyped.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: We were like, dude, we're accomplished.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_05: This should accomplish, all worth it, yeah, all worth it in the day.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_01: And then we uh went to a coffee shop and did some editing and work for an hour, and then um then we were like, Hey, should we go to BPN?
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: And we were like, uh, we need to catch them like in the morning when they're rolling in.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um so BPN's next on the list.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_05: Um and the sign is working a hundred percent.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_05: He was like, Do you do you think the sign?
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_05: You're like, Do you think the sign you know is like a good idea?
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, it's worked a hundred percent of the design.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_05: Sure.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: So uh so we're gonna show up to a bunch of uh potential.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Sponsors headquarters with a sign that says, Hey, you know, we got 30,000 runners, 100 events.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: You want to be a sponsor.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and really, I mean, it's us providing them the opportunity.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah, we get something out of it, but like it's also um it's an equal exchange.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's not like we get more than they get.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's a they get the leverage of um advertising and brand recognition at all of our events, and then we get the leverage at the monetary value.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: So it's pretty equal.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um as far as like value exchange for cost versus what you get.
• 22:35
  SPEAKER_01: So um it's not like a thing where it's like, oh, we get a sponsorship, you get nothing.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, but so yeah, we got some people next on the list.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: We are gonna go to the running event in San Antonio, where all the major companies are running companies, and we're gonna try to find some people there.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I don't think we're gonna have any trouble doing that.
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I've seen on like Facebook race director groups, somebody actually asked, or like, how do you get sponsorships for your races?
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: And multiple people said the running event.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so gotta be around everywhere.
• 23:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'll say this too.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: So um let me pull it up here.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_01: I had a guy message me on Facebook yesterday, and he said he said, uh with 30,000 runners, that's hard to ignore.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's major marathon numbers.
• 23:37
  SPEAKER_01: Like he was telling me, like, no, you have like a series platform that sponsors do want.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so I was like, oh, sick, perfect.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, all right, let's do it.
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: Good to know.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Good to know.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: And uh he he actually he's trying to connect me to Hoka.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_01: So sick.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I told him, hey, here's my info, connect me with Hoka.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 23:56
  SPEAKER_05: Uh yeah, and it's it's really interesting too from a uh from a from a brand standpoint to think about okay, do you want 30,000 runners at one event, or do you want 30,000 runners across multiple events throughout the year?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and throughout the US.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: So, like, yeah, it's it's one like I wonder how they it's like year-round recognition, and it's also you get recognition every state.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_05: Different markets, yeah.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_05: So um that's like uh they might like that better.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like I I feel like there's real, real, real value.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_05: I obviously we wouldn't, you know, approach people if it wasn't valuable, you know.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um, and nobody's taking advantage of it yet, but we're just getting the word out.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, um, yeah, it's I'm really interested to see who is most interested in picking that up.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna limit it to by category.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_01: So like one nutrition sponsor, one drink sponsor, one shoe sponsor, one watch sponsor, chorus.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I like chorus, I hope chorus sponsors, but Garmin.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, we'll limit it up.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hoping Hoka just sponsors because I feel like every time I go to a child running event, I see Hoka.
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like a major.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's always Hoka.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: So um I can't see why they wouldn't.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like they sponsor Bandera in South Texas that only has a couple thousand runners.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and that thing's Hoka'd out, man.
• 25:21
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, it's just a matter of time, yeah.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, anyways, that's our fun uh story, and I I guess a lot of people were encouraged by that because we posted it after I got a lot of messages from people saying, like, hey man, like that was super encouraging of you like stepping out and doing that.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: They were like, it kind of got me hyped up for you.
• 25:43
  SPEAKER_05: That's awesome.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_01: Uh but I guess I don't know.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: And some guy said um someone had said um something like someone said something along the lines of basically like doing that and getting a no was really like admiring in a way, which I thought was cool.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: So got a lot of support from doing it, which is cool.
• 26:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_05: Um dude, you gotta respect the hustle at the end of the day, like no, yes, whatever.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's yeah, you know, that's that's putting the work in.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, it you never know.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_05: And that that's that's saying that I mean it's not a no, it wasn't a full yes, but it's way closer to a yes and a no, right?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like we got in the building, and it's from the head honcho himself, you know.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and it was like uh it was literally a 30-second answer, right?
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_05: And we've got cases coming soon, you know.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_05: And he, I mean, he ripped that.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_05: That was the first email of the day, maybe.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 26:50
  SPEAKER_05: That was his first email of the day.
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, uh, that's like that's pretty legit, like very cool, yeah.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, very cool experience, and you never know where that relationship will grow over time.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_05: Business is blooming.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_05: Is it the title of the episode?
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, no.
• 27:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, anyways, that was our cool experience on the business side.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um, kind of things going on there.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I guess other things going on right now in business, just you know, to get it on podcast.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: So obviously, we're getting getting things done.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm still implementing the stuff that Alex recommended.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I could have technically got it all done.
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: I already have like the sponsorship thing in place and happening, that's how that's already going.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when it comes to the creating our own signup page and stuff, um, I could have just launched something that would have worked that is exactly what he said, but I want it to look good.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'm actually it's taking a couple more weeks than I anticipated.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: So like I would have had it done within a few days.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but there's certain aspects of it that I just didn't like from a branding perspective.
• 28:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I want to make sure it's dialed in.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: So uh I'm talking to like a code guy, but we're gonna have everything Alex recommended from that one-on-one I had with him.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_01: We will have it all implemented by after next weekend when I go to an Outlast Nashville.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: We're gonna record a video there, and that's gonna go on this website.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: After that's done, we're gonna be able to launch the website and go ahead and implement what Alex recommended fully.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: So it'll be interesting.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see what happens.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then after that, I mean, I have an insane amount of like stuff that we're working on and things that are going on in the business that are growing it.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um looking into next year, I'm not worried about um growth next year.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's already everything's already in place for us to have a huge year next year.
• 29:03
  SPEAKER_01: Um, from from like a business perspective.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like I'm looking into next year, we already have the event numbers we need to double.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's all already on the calendar.
• 29:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um there's one or two more event styles I want to add in.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, like right now in the business, we have like these different brands that we're using.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_01: So um there's one or two more brands I want to implement that'll add another 20-40 events to the calendar.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_01: Outside of that, though, if we just stay with what we currently have, like an I don't touch anything, our business should get close to doubling next year again.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: And my goal every year is to double.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: So um, so that's fun.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Exciting.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, having to learn how to be a manager for the first time ever, uh, which is interesting.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because for the past few months, like I onboarded and brought on like a bunch of new people uh within the past three months.
• 30:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's now three months later, and for the first three months, everything was fine.
• 30:04
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, I guess everybody's got it.
• 30:06
  SPEAKER_01: I was like working on this stuff, and then it all came crashing down like a week ago, and then all these people were bringing me all these super deep big problems that are legitimate problems, but I didn't know about them until now, and I actually have to be a manager and help fix some stuff, so that's fun, yeah.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um learning to be a manager, um, I guess once you get to a team size of ours, which is like nine people, um you do have to be a manager.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um for the most part, I was like, Oh, I guess everybody's self-managed, like for the first like the past three months, because I was like, no problems.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, I'm just gonna keep growing the business, y'all keep doing your thing.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then last week it was like, hey, there's all these big problems.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, Oh, okay.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, I have to be a manager, okay.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so what was that like just to I want to extract the yeah, extract the diamond from that uh mine there?
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, what was that like take take me into the like real like the actual realistic problems uh problem?
• 31:15
  SPEAKER_05: Or no, you don't have to go like specific on the profit.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, but but I'm curious on like your insight, like like uh general insight is learning to be a manager, but like sp like if you were to drop that down to a degree of detail, like one more like what it what is it about it that you feel like you are learning in that experience?
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like learning and being a manager, yeah.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I would say I call this level two of business, is the diamond, I guess, to pull from it.
• 31:45
  SPEAKER_01: So level one of business is like it's maybe you and a few other people, but you're not really a manager, everybody's just working and getting work done.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's level one.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_01: Level two is you have a lot of people, and because you have a lot of people and you have a lot of stuff going on, there begins to have there's there's some problems that begin to pop up because of the growth, and it can no longer be handled by people independently, it then takes team collaborative effort with a leader, and that's level two business.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Level two business is a manager who handles all the loose end problems, plus make sure make sure that the team's working together well and everything's running smooth.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's level two.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Level three, middle management.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: So level three is my graduation from the step is eventually having someone to where I then I then step into a leader of leaders role, and I only oversee leaders, and leaders only oversee their teams.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: And so we're about to transition to that in the next several months.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you're about to see our first few leaders emerge and me completely not be connected to uh non-leaders in the next several months.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: And that's level three.
• 33:06
  SPEAKER_01: Level three allows growth.
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um, like it's no one's business.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: Level two hinders growth from the leader's perspective.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: So like I can't grow the business as fast or as much being a manager.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_01: So in order to grow it faster and better, I have to uh delegate management and execute growth.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um so the good thing is everything's kind of set in place for growth next year.
• 33:34
  SPEAKER_01: And if all I do is manage the next six months, things will still grow and be okay.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but it's not effective like long term, like a few years down the road.
• 33:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's not very effective.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I want people to be promoted and grow as fast as possible here.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: So like a lot of people that work here all want to be in some sort of leadership capacity, or most people most people that work with us do.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they can't do that right now because they're a small company.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I want to get to the point where I can grow the company where I can then genuinely and actually promote people and there actually be a roadmap to where, hey, if you started uh entry-level position here, here's where you can actually go.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: Uh because these are actual roles that are currently being filled.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so that's my goal.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: My goal is to uh grow the business to a point to where I can open up more leadership spots so people have a way to grow in the business.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_01: And if I'm managing, that's gonna slow that down.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: And so I told one guy yesterday that works with us, I said, listen, man, I want to make you a manager here.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I said, the more problems you can take off my plate and solve, the faster I can grow the business, and the faster I can grow the business, and the more problems you can take off my plate, the faster you can get promoted.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: And he he he was like, that makes sense.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: So uh yeah, so I'm in level two.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: So I just went from I'm I I I just landed in level two like last week.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because at first I was like, level one, I was like, oh, I created a bunch of mini managers where everyone's just independent management of themselves, which people are for the most part.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: But there's things that I've done on my end that have caused issues that I didn't realize, and like logistic issues, like scheduling and stuff like that.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: There's things that I've done that I didn't realize.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: People down here noticed, and they brought it to my attention, and I have to fix it because I'm the one that caused the problem.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, ideal scenario, they see the problem, they fix it, and then they just like run it by me for approval real quick and like show me all the details and the numbers.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's like ideal situation.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: But um anyways, so yeah, there's like a bunch of things.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like I got like 20 things on a list in there, but I'm just knocking through them, getting them done.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's been an interesting curve business-wise.
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, uh fitness-wise, I'm graduating from retirement this week.
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I love that.
• 36:14
  SPEAKER_05: So I love that.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: I retired from running for a month after the archival travel 100 miler.
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I ran a couple miles a week just to kind of keep my weekly streak going for eight years.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, been running at least once a week for the past eight years, which is cool.
• 36:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so I'm retiring this week, so I'm gonna start getting up and running again.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I did enter in the lottery for Western State Tundra Mile in California.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_05: Congrats.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um got a 0.5% chance of getting in, but hey, that's not bad.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_05: Hey, saying there's a chance.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: There's a chance.
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_05: I thought that was so funny because I remember from past podcasts, you're like, Yeah, I don't know if I'm ever gonna do 100 mile again.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_05: And then you're like, I just signed up for the lottery, which I know the chances are low, but I just thought that was funny.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_05: Well, the life cycle of a of a runner of going ah, never doing this again, and then you are here, whereas like finding yourself signing up.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, if I have the chance to do a historic race like that, I'm it.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, 100%.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I just I I from what I understand, relatively speaking, coming from California, it's relatively flat, very runnable.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_05: Like that's why there's so many fast times and western straits?
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 37:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I thought it was pretty mountainous because it's relatively speaking.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_05: I'm saying like like when you when you think of mountain races, yeah, I think that there are definitely mountain races that definitely have more elevation and everything, but um the trail itself is very runnable.
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_05: That's why you get these fast times.
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_05: I got you.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um my goal is to get that um get that done in a lifetime.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I guess apparently once I have a lottery in it sticks around forever.
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: So every year that one lottery still counts.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, that's cool.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: I think.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so but honestly, right now I don't even know what I'm training for.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna start running and getting back in the gym and lifting again.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um and get back into what I was doing before my 100 miler basically.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then uh I do got a little half marathon I'm doing with my wife in January or December for fun, just like uh St.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_01: Jude's half marathon in Memphis.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I got that going on, and then I um I might hop in a few like small fun trail races that are local or something, but uh yeah, I mean I don't have anything on the calendar signed up yet.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna get running every day, lift every day, keep doing what I've been doing uh before my 100 miler.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Just because it's like once I like every day if I go run and then I lift and I eat really good, I just feel good about my day.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so and I like running in the mornings too before work.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um so fitness-wise, that's what's going on with me.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_01: Running.
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_05: You still running or oh man, it's been tough uh this last week.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I did I did start again, and then this last week I missed uh the whole week.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_05: Just timing of things, and then like kind of prioritize recovery after, you know, in sleep, you know, after our our big uh our big trip.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: You work for running company.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_05: I know man, I gotta get I gotta I gotta get my and then today I I uh I was just I pressed the lazy button, you know.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_05: And so um yeah, so I I've gotta redeem myself either this evening is kind of what I told myself, and uh see what I can do to uh get those miles back.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_05: So um yeah, just still trying to work through my my schedule with the with the commute and everything, make sure that I'm uh not spending because it's like if I get home at you know 5 30 ish six, you know what I mean?
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_05: Uh sometimes the wife's already got like dinner cooking, which bless man for that.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's also like my wife don't cook, man.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she don't usually cook.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so it's like it's like one of those things where you know, just just managing it.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_05: And I I think it's also communication too from my from my end of like, you know, okay, well, you kind of have to do a team approach, you know.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_05: If if I'm gonna be very intentional about training, she knows that.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_05: Like she knows when I've been training for half marathons, ultramarathons, like so um it's probably probably help if I just got a race on the calendar.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_05: So I could just be like, okay, I'm doing this.
• 40:51
  SPEAKER_05: These are the things that I need to do leading up.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_01: So well, I got one that you might be interested in.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_01: What should I do?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: So I reached out to my buddy Blake.
• 40:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh me and him have done a lot of cool stuff together, but uh we have the beaver foot and broken bow, and there's the 22 miler, which is an out and dike, yeah.
• 41:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh 11 miles out, 11 miles back.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_01: But it's in the Washita Mountains, it's pretty mountainous, but beautiful trail, awesome trail.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's in a few weeks.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's in a few weeks.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_01: But uh, I thought about you could either do the out and back or you could do the 11 miler where you get dropped off by the bus and then you just run it back.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but I thought about hopping in that with him.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to join us, sign up.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_04: All right, let me see about that.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: But that's also the weekend of Spartan San Antonio, which we can get him for free.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, really?
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_01: I sent it out in the summer.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 41:48
  SPEAKER_01: Um so there's that option too, which I don't really the one thing I don't like about Spartan is I don't really want to crawl on mud, but yeah.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_05: I I think I really want to focus on getting my just getting the running in.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_05: I just really need to get in the running.
• 42:01
  SPEAKER_05: You should just hop in the love mile, dude.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, if I like 11 miles, not really a big jump at all.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_05: Uh I mean it's a big jump from what I've been doing, but that's when when we're thinking about the a matter of weeks of training, 11 is definitely better than 22.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_04: Um, so yeah, maybe that's something that I'd yeah, commit to.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_01: I need to commit to.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: And there's one race I thought about trying to enter in our uh team into it's a good shirt too.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_05: Beaverfoot's a good shirt.
• 42:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm excited to see that one.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um I wanted to see there's the uh Wachita switchbacks race in January up in Oklahoma.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: That one is they have a 20, I think they have a 25k to 50k.
• 42:42
  SPEAKER_01: But I thought about uh seeing like people who are available that weekend if people wanted to go up there and run that.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so yeah, Wachita is uh a destination that we've been trying to get up to, just scheduling has it, so that's appealing for sure.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, yeah, but uh fitness-wise, man, we just have put a race on the calendar, do something, yeah, something cool.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we can't be lazy turds, exactly.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_05: This time next week, I gotta have a I gotta tell you exactly what it is.
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, it might be beep.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: It might be beep.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I can make sure I got merch up there anyway, so yeah, I'll be up there.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's true.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um okay, guys.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we covered fitness.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Uh kind of shared talked a little bit about faith with the politics earlier, and then um business talked a lot about that.
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_01: So anything else floating on your mind?
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_05: No, uh, I don't think so.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um no, I mean covered everything that was uh kind of on my mind.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I will say this too before we exit out.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: So um one thing I noticed from multiple people.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Routine the past few weeks, several weeks, I noticed a shift in like um attitude towards problems.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a slight shift.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like I it was just like just enough to where I noticed like uh something's a little different.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I know as a leader, like you, you're the one that tolerates what culture you set in the business in the workplace.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I've heard a lot of places be like a lot of people where they go work for a company and they're like, Oh, this company I work for is so toxic.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like that word toxic workplace is like such a used word.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I was always kind of like, Man, I want to make sure people don't ever say that about me if they leave.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um, or like not about me, but about our business.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I want people to work here and leave thinking, man, that was a cool place.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was a good experience.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I noticed there was an attitude around problems from different people, and it was slight, but like there's this attitude of like, this is either too difficult or too hard or harder.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, this problem is, and because it is, I'm not going to find the solution, and I'm just gonna bring it to you because it's a little more painful in my end.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, so it became I've I was noticed there was starting to become a more self-interest of like how can my work be easier for me rather than what work is required to make the business the best.
• 45:37
  SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, that's level two for sure.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: So I noticed I started noticing that, and I was like, everyone's trying to do what's easier for them.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, no, no, no, we need to do like what's best for all of us and the business and our customers.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_01: We don't need to look at our work and think selfish human desires, how can my work be as easy as possible?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: We need to have selfless human desires of how can we make this the best, despite what my flesh desires, for the sake of the betterment of the everyone else, the business, the customers, our team.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: And uh so that's why in our team meeting Tuesday morning that we do every week, I uh talked about optimism and pessimism because I was like, you know what?
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to kill whatever this is because I I'm noticing it, and I can always pick up inside when something's wrong.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like I just I've sensed the past couple months, something's off.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: I can't put my finger on it.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what it was.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was a prospective attitude that people were holding, and it wasn't one specific person, it wasn't uh a problem every person was having, it was just like these slight things I would notice in conversations.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: And so Tuesday morning, I was like, you know what?
• 46:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just gonna set the standard.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: And Tuesday morning we talked about optimism.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I basically said at the end, um, I encouraged everyone to walk in optimism.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_01: And then I said at the end, if anyone's negative or pessimistic, tell me and I'll have a conversation with them.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_01: And um, if you have conversations with somebody and they're being pessimistic or negative, be the better person, correct them in a respectful, kind way, but also if you notice it, bring it to me.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_01: That then shifted it from this like disillusion of like this barrier between a leader and team members that kind of exist in most workplaces to like, oh, like if I say something negative, now instead of it like all of us kind of packing in and being a pack around us secretly agreeing these negative thoughts without the leader knowing, it then put it in a position of, oh now people can turn or change if I have these negative comments that I want to say, now they can tell the leader I'm not safe anymore to say that anymore.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_01: Which is what I was trying to nip in the butt.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah because I didn't want it happening anymore.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, because I noticed it spreading a little bit.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and so I basically told everybody Tuesday morning in our meeting, I was like, hey, if you if you see it, let me know.
• 48:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's not allowed.
• 48:26
  SPEAKER_01: I put my foot down of like, we're not gonna have any negative comments or pessimistic thoughts around things.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, not gonna happen.
• 48:34
  SPEAKER_04: And and just to just to uh give it back to you, the what you also said was like the way too is through.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_05: So like you you were you were trying to convey the the point, and you I think you did, was if we do have an issue, then let's find a way through an optimistic lens of correcting whatever the issue is, whatever the problem is, let's let's reframe how we and be like solution focused toward what can we do to get through it instead of letting it just kind of fester and mold and you know get worse.
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:14
  SPEAKER_05: And so I think that yeah, you do have an intuitive, you you have a good intuition um that that you utilize the that Tuesday meeting to help communicate those things.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_05: Um I I feel like you've you've done a great job.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, uh, it was either that or I think that was the best way to do it, was just addressing the meeting as a whole.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um it was either that or do detective work to figure out who it is, which I don't want to do.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so I was just like, hey, this is how things are gonna be.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: And if you're going to uh let's see if I get this lens to focus on.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I don't know why.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um there we go.
• 49:55
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_01: Uh basically, um I was like, I'm just gonna set the standard, put it out there, and I hope everybody holds each other accountable.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_01: If they don't, then uh it'll come to light soon.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, because I can tell once stuff's off and it's starting to spread.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: Because it was.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know who it was, what it was.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: I I could just tell like people's response to problems went from like optimism, started to go into pessimism.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I remember used to, it was always optimism.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, what's this?
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, I nipped that in the butt.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I think I don't know, my biggest um thing I want to prevent is having people in the workplace talk negative behind people's backs.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's the one thing I want to prevent because um that's what creates a quote unquote toxic workplace.
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want that.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_01: Neither does anyone else.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: And the way to prevent it is by controlling your tongue.
• 51:08
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, yeah, and I think it's um there's a book that I've read.
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_05: Uh Culture Code.
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_05: Culture Code.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: Great book.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, great book, yeah.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_05: And it talks about like the three components of a high performing team.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_05: Uses in sports analys uh uh comps and stuff because the author uh spent time with like NBA basketball and a few other things, uh organizations.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_05: Cycle uh safety is number one.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_05: And uh like if people don't feel safe that they can bring things, you know, problems um or feel that they their voices are heard, then that can, you know, they're gonna go where instead of going up, uh they'll go out.
• 51:56
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, I feel safe confiding in somebody else, and that's where it starts to breed and fester.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_05: Um there's two others that uh miss like I haven't picked up the book or thought about it in a little while, but there are two others that I'll I'll look up and share.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_05: But um yeah, that comes to mind of just like like it's it's not a problem that people have problems, it's just like expected within any business organization team dynamic.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_05: Um it's it's like what you do with them and then how you view them, like you said.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's it's it's perspective and then always approaching it with like a solution focus and like creating the environment that like these are this is how we handle these things instead of going, you know, like let's just kick it around, you know, and do nothing, you know, that doesn't do anything for anybody, yeah, you know.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_05: So um yeah.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_05: But it's only going to it that is the challenge.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_05: That is the challenge in any business that I've ever worked in of just like like uh um you know team communication.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_01: I I so I did identify the root issue.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_01: So number one, the root issue fault was me.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_01: Number one, and I think it's important that like every leader understands that every problem is really their problem.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_01: So like that was number one.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't identify it.
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: Well, first off, there was a problem here.
• 53:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but what what was happening actually is we had information going to a leader, and then that information nothing was happening with that information, which made it spill over.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_01: But that was my fault though, because I didn't properly like equip that leader on how to handle that stuff.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, it's really interesting, not to cut you off, but it's really interesting how like as a business scales, right?
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_05: It's just the the problems scale.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_05: And also like this, yeah, but but in the same way, right?
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_05: And so as you get more people, the same problems just start to compound for more people.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_05: And so, like if if if you know, and and that, but that's also where you identify gaps in the operation, yeah, so that like like and you're only going to be able to fix them because of the growth, right?
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_05: If if if there was if it was small and you had a small team, like you were just saying, you've got, okay, well, if you're the if you're the bottleneck, right, then then okay, well, we just have to equip properly.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_05: And once that's done, you don't, you're not the bottleneck because they can make that decision.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_05: And it you got a free flow of of decision making at that point.
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_05: In the context of leader structure, you know, there's going to be these other things that that person becomes a bottleneck.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_05: You don't know anything about it because it's their call.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_05: But if they've got whatever reason for not being able to make the decision because it's a decision they're uncomfortable with, or it, you know, it takes a little bit more time, effort, energy, whatever, then that same thing happens to that person.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_05: And then they don't, it becomes harder for them because they don't have the decision-making uh authority because it's not their business.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_05: You know, and so it's like it then that's why you're uh this is why you're a great leader in that you take the accountability and you say, oh well, that is on me, but it's just a new problem for you to solve in that level two type of example, right?
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 56:11
  SPEAKER_05: So it's like, okay, well, clearing that bottleneck for that person, you know, and and figuring it out is just like it just it continues to scale.
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: It just continues to scale how that I think the best way to prevent that though is, and I've said this before, but people just being like respectfully honest.
• 56:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's what prevents that.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like it's like okay.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_05: You've talked about that before, yeah.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it's like okay, like if if that were the case where I had like middle management, me, and then you had team underneath middle management, right?
• 56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Which I heard middle management, I've heard a lot of negative things about it, but I think it I think it'd be great if you have the right leader leading middle management.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um but what I hear is like you said, they become a ball neck without even realizing it, and they don't even know.
• 56:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but if they learned the principles of take in action due, if they learn that principle and do it with honest honesty and while being respectful, like respect and honesty, uh it solves all of those issues.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_01: Because what that basically means is like the reason middle management has bottleneck is because they get information, don't know what to do, and they don't do the do part.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_01: Podcast is called get or done, right?
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_01: Then middle management um gets information and it sits.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_01: There's no execution and it sits because it takes because those are heavier decisions that take more thought, and because they take more thought, they're our human instinct is to avoid them because it's like, oh, that's this big thing that requires heavy thought, a lot of time and energy, and I just don't know, so I'm just gonna avoid it.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: It's natural human tendencies.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
• 58:02
  SPEAKER_01: But if you break through that and you're like you recognize that, you're like, no, all right, let's attack this.
• 58:07
  SPEAKER_01: All right, let's look at it.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, hard call.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_01: Leader.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 58:12
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, there's this thing, not sure what do you think's best.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, thanks.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: Boom.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, go back to that person.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, this is a decision we made, that's what we're gonna do.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, but it's like relentless execution.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, if you're and if you do relentless execution with respectful honesty, like respect and honesty, then uh there is no bottlenecks if everyone carries that principle.
• 58:32
  SPEAKER_05: Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: So uh but like the interesting thing is like once you get level three leader, every level after that, you already understand that, and so it's natural for you.
• 58:44
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_05: It it comes with experience and time, yeah, coaching, yeah, love, super interesting stuff.
• 58:50
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_05: And it's tough.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_05: It it's just you know, every and then you think about the just the human dynamic, right?
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_05: Which is kind of what we're talking about.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and it's like it's like I I don't think either of us are uh excluded from those challenges, right?
• 59:07
  SPEAKER_05: Like we we both experience those times.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_05: Like I can think of an email that I probably should have sent to you like quicker.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_05: You know what I mean?
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_05: But but like it's just it is how it that that is how it is, but you know, I I think yeah, it it um just trial and error, trial and error and and effort and I think the biggest thing people have is they think they take too much work stuff personal as an attack on character or against them when they it's all perspective.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um it's all about perspective, man.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_01: Teen dynamic.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_05: Um yeah, well it's it it it's natural, it's it's just natural humanness, I think.
• 59:49
  SPEAKER_05: You know, there's there's there's a certain level of like nobody's fearless, yeah.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_05: Nobody nobody is actually fearless.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_05: Like you're always gonna have a little bit there.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and so Jesus might be or God might be fearless, you know.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, amen.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: But for everybody for humans, yeah, you know what I mean?
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_05: There's always gonna be a little bit of that, you know, and so it it's it's a constant battle of of pushing through, pushing through, pushing through, and you get better at it, but as the levels it as the responsibility gets higher, you know, it's um it's still there.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_05: And so I think that you know it it just takes communication and that psychological safety also.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_05: It's like, no, I'll be okay.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_05: It's not the biggest, you know, like just just send the email, you know, or or pick up the phone or ask for help, like, you know, and I mean kind of dialing into the faith, like it's the same thing.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_05: It's like well, so many times we have a savior.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and how many times do we just go, nah, I can I'll just grip it, you know.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_05: I'll just, you know, instead of letting go and letting God, we or coming to God with our issues, we try to, I can do it.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you know, and it's true, so often we don't, yeah, or can't.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just human nature, it's just a battle against human nature.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's what uh that's what uh I guess that's why or what HR exists for, I guess.
• 1:01:19
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_01: Managing human nature tendencies.
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm not a I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_05: I don't know about the HR, I'm not an HR guy.
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  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: I did work HR as an intern in high school.
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  SPEAKER_01: I worked in the department, so um, I heard a guy who has like a big company, he has no HR.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just a bunch of engineers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, it's super interesting, man.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like when you get people involved, it's like obviously messy, but I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, there are certain principles that if you align yourself with certain principles in a workplace, it can prevent like 90% less problems in a place with no principles.
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  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_05: That's why values are so important.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like values and yeah, principles, same thing, relatively the same thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um that's why like if you do have Christian values, like that solves like most of the problems right there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, like you like Christian values that you actually follow.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um like if you have Christian values, that solves a lot of problems right there and there.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like worldly problems, you know.
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  SPEAKER_05: 100%.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um character matters, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Character.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, well, anyways, man, the good conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's all I got today.
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  SPEAKER_05: So awesome.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um we'll see what crazy thing we have next.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because like, dude, it's been back to back to back banger episodes because we had the 100 mile episode, we had the Alex Ramosi episode, we had freaking Greg Lovecchia billionaire episode uh today, this week.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I'm sure we'll have something cool, crazy for next week.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_05: Awesome.
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  SPEAKER_05: Alrighty, dude.
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  SPEAKER_05: Good combo.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_01: See you next week.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for listening, guys.