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GIRL, 14, SEX TRAFFICKED FROM MUSEUM TOUR? · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Was a little girl, just fourteen years old, sex trafficked
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  Speaker 2: from a museum tour. Good evening. I'm Nancy Grace. This
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  Speaker 2: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us tonight.
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  Speaker 3: New Orleans PD desperately searching for a missing child, Christal,
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  Speaker 3: just fourteen. Christall is five to two, has black hair
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  Speaker 3: with blonde tips and brown eyes. Last scene wearing a
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  Speaker 3: blue yoga jumpsuit with a black Harley pullover layered on top.
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  Speaker 2: This little girl is just fourteen years old and she's
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  Speaker 2: on a group tour with other children of a New
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  Speaker 2: Orleans museum. Look at Cristal, last saying, wearing this longsleeve
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  Speaker 2: shirt with a little crop over it. Cute as a button. Long,
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  Speaker 2: dark hair, brunette with the tips honeyblonde.
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  Speaker 1: Look at her.
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  Speaker 2: She's wearing that jumpsuit you see her in There is
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  Speaker 2: an earlier picture before her hair grew out. Big smile,
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  Speaker 2: beautiful girl. Where is Christal? And how in the hey
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  Speaker 2: does she get sex trafficked? The fear of police from
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  Speaker 2: a local museum. Joining me in all star panel. But
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  Speaker 2: first I'm gonna go to Lynn Shaw. Lynn is the
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  Speaker 2: founder and executive director of Lynn's Warriors dedicated to ending
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  Speaker 2: sex trafficking, especially of children. You know what, Lynn, Every
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  Speaker 2: time I have to go to the airport, which is
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  Speaker 2: a lot more than I want, there are big signs
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  Speaker 2: that say we're fighting sex trafficking, right, but hey, it's
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  Speaker 2: still happening. Sex trafficking of children particular occurs in big
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  Speaker 2: venues like airports, like stadiums, like museums, and it's literally
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  Speaker 2: happening right under our noses. We're right there when it happens,
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  Speaker 2: but nobody understands what they're seeing.
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  Speaker 1: Explain it.
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  Speaker 4: That's the beauty of it, Nancy. The predators know this.
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  Speaker 4: Nobody's paying attention. For instance, one of the biggest trafficking sites,
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  Speaker 4: and nobody wants to believe this. Are places like Great
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  Speaker 4: Adventure or Disney World where you have a lot of families,
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  Speaker 4: a lot of kids. Kids are being exchanged in the restrooms,
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  Speaker 4: and also people. It's dark, it's ugly. We have to
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  Speaker 4: face the reality. Most people say they don't want to
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  Speaker 4: get involved. They're afraid of being held accountable for something,
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  Speaker 4: so they just don't say anything. I can't tell you, Nancy,
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  Speaker 4: how many people have said to me I saw something
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  Speaker 4: last year. I should have said something, I should have
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  Speaker 4: done something. So wherever there's chaos, crowds, lots of people,
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  Speaker 4: you can get away with all of this. But again,
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  Speaker 4: you can hang all the signs you want in bus
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  Speaker 4: stations and I see them all over the airports as
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  Speaker 4: well in train stations. But you know what, unless somebody
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  Speaker 4: can also identify and understand the protocol, like we have
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  Speaker 4: to teach Americans right now, these are the steps. This
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  Speaker 4: is a national crisis. So many kids are just disappearing
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  Speaker 4: right under our noses. As you said, we have to
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  Speaker 4: all be trained in what to do if you think
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  Speaker 4: you think you see or hear something. And also you
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  Speaker 4: will not be held accountable. Better to be safe than sorry,
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  Speaker 4: jorning me.
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  Speaker 2: In addition to Lynn Shaw with Lynn's Warriors is Don Schiller.
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  Speaker 2: Dawn is an expert in human trafficking, and I'd like
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  Speaker 2: to point out is a former trafficking victim. Don Schiller,
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  Speaker 2: back her up, explain what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with Lynn on too many children. A
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  Speaker 5: lot of children are going missing these days, and nobody
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  Speaker 5: pays attention. We don't get the media exposure that it needs.
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  Speaker 5: There are too many to be playing these stories every day.
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  Speaker 5: They would be playing continuously over and over and over
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  Speaker 5: again if we kept up with them in the media.
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  Speaker 5: The truth is the communities need to know what to
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  Speaker 5: do and they need to be more aware.
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  Speaker 2: Don Schuller joining us expert in anti trafficking and trafficking
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  Speaker 2: victim herself.
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  Speaker 1: Don, what happened in your case?
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  Speaker 5: Well, in my case, I was a fifteen year old
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  Speaker 5: neighbor in the same apartment complex as the manager, and
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  Speaker 5: he also happened to be a thirty two year old
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  Speaker 5: porn actor who immediately saw me and started grooming me.
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  Speaker 5: And that's the process for a lot of these youth
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  Speaker 5: is that you start, you get groomed. He saw that
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  Speaker 5: I wasn't being protected by my father. My father was disabled,
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  Speaker 5: my father was a drug user, and so he stepped
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  Speaker 5: in and kind of took the place of my dad
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  Speaker 5: in a way that I built trust. And then slowly
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  Speaker 5: but surely he groomed me into being his possession and
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  Speaker 5: very soon after that ended up selling me over and
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  Speaker 5: over again in multiple different ways.
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  Speaker 1: How old were you dog when this happened.
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  Speaker 5: I was fifteen years old when I met him. And
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  Speaker 5: I would like to point out too that it's really
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  Speaker 5: difficult for people to see a teenager fourteen, fifteen, sixteen
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  Speaker 5: years old as a child still and very clearly, after
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  Speaker 5: years of therapy and not blaming myself for my own
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  Speaker 5: abuse and trafficking experience, I was. I finally understood that, yes,
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  Speaker 5: I was a child. He was a thirty two year
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  Speaker 5: old experienced in seduction porn star who took who could.
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  Speaker 1: Have had anybody he wanted.
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  Speaker 5: But what he did was he laid his eyes on me,
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  Speaker 5: a fifteen year old girl that didn't have anybody looking
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  Speaker 5: out for her, and.
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  Speaker 1: That was the issue. That's how he got in.
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  Speaker 5: I did not have my basic needs met by my
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  Speaker 5: guardian's parent at the time, and he saw that and
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  Speaker 5: he saw his way in. And this is what predators do.
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  Speaker 1: This is what exploiters do.
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  Speaker 5: They see youth who don't have anybody looking out for them,
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  Speaker 5: and they step in and they replace that caring person
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  Speaker 5: initially and gain the trust and the love what looks
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  Speaker 5: like love to the youth, and then turn it around
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  Speaker 5: and turn it into an abusive exploitive experience.
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  Speaker 2: Has a New Orleans teen been sex trafficked from a
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  Speaker 2: group trip to a museum. She's with an entire group
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  Speaker 2: of children. How did you just disappear from a public museum?
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  Speaker 2: How many of you have allowed your children to go
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  Speaker 2: on a field trip I have with their school, with
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  Speaker 2: their church, with some other group of children that's being chaperoned.
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  Speaker 2: I've done it plenty of times, thinking it was some
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  Speaker 2: sort of enrichment for my child. Little did I know
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  Speaker 2: that the child can be trafficked, sex trafficked from a
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  Speaker 2: group trip, this time at a museum for Pete's sake.
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  Speaker 1: But it's not by far the.
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  Speaker 2: First time a child has been trafficked from a public venue.
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  Speaker 6: Listen, this fifteen year old girl, when she was a
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  Speaker 6: Mavericks basketball game with her dad, goes to the bathroom
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  Speaker 6: for Dad's probably thought, you know, it's okay. It's right
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  Speaker 6: up at the top.
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  Speaker 1: Of the steps.
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  Speaker 4: We're already inside. There's a lot of security around here.
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  Speaker 6: She'll be fine, goes to the bathroom and never comes
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  Speaker 6: back to their seats. Dad's there with his daughter. They're
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  Speaker 6: there to watch a Maverick's game, supposed to be family friendly.
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  Speaker 6: Just before halftime, she goes to the restroom. After ten minutes,
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  Speaker 6: he's like it's a little bit too long and reports it,
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  Speaker 6: and the whole second half of the game.
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  Speaker 7: He's down at security, he's.
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  Speaker 6: Talking to him. You know, they're looking. They don't find her. Ultimately,
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  Speaker 6: they do pull a video after the game is.
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  Speaker 2: Over and they see her being led out of the
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  Speaker 2: MAVs stadium by adult men. Now you were just hearing
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  Speaker 2: Crime online dot Com investigative reporter Alexis Tereschuk and the
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  Speaker 2: teen girl's family lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: That was Zeke Fortenbury.
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  Speaker 2: This girl goes missing from a stadium full of people,
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  Speaker 2: and then she's captured on surveillance video.
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  Speaker 1: And she's there at the game.
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  Speaker 2: With her father, a little father daughter bonding time, just
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  Speaker 2: the two of them alone, doing something fun.
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  Speaker 1: She goes to the bathroom next to the thing. You
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  Speaker 1: know she's gone. Was she beaten? Was she dragged by
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  Speaker 1: her hair? Listen, So we don't know.
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  Speaker 6: What was what words were said, but she passed this
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  Speaker 6: criminal in the hallway and whatever he said to her
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  Speaker 6: changed her direction.
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  Speaker 8: But she then.
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  Speaker 6: Ultimately left that facility with him, and we don't know
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  Speaker 6: what he's threatened her. Did he entice her with some
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  Speaker 6: sort of things that teenage girls would be entice by. Again,
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  Speaker 6: we're talking to your old adolescent.
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  Speaker 2: Girl joining me as I said an All Star panel
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  Speaker 2: how do you convince a fifteen year old girl to leave?
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  Speaker 2: In that case, Well, it happened, and the way she
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  Speaker 2: was found is very very upsetting.
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  Speaker 1: She was, in fact being trafficked for sex. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get to that.
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  Speaker 2: In just a moment, but first I want to go
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  Speaker 2: back to our case in chief. Chrystal Canal's missing. Christal
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  Speaker 2: just fourteen years old, and she's.
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  Speaker 1: At a public venue.
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  Speaker 2: She's at a day trip to a local museum and
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  Speaker 2: now police fearing the worst that this little girl just
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  Speaker 2: five to two has been sex trafficked from a public venue.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me, Elaine out Athias, senior crime investigative reporter at
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  Speaker 2: the Messenger.
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  Speaker 1: Elaine, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 9: What happened? So on May twenty s second, Christaal was
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  Speaker 9: with a group field trip, which was actually she was
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  Speaker 9: in the custody of Louisiana's Department of Children and Family Services.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my, wait a minute, wait, whoa wa wait, head
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  Speaker 2: blowing off, head blowing off? Right now, Elaine atheis are
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  Speaker 2: you telling me.
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  Speaker 1: That state employees had taken.
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  Speaker 2: This child to the museum with a group of children
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  Speaker 2: and under their noses are their watch? This child disappears,
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  Speaker 2: This little girl disappears under the noses of defacts on
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  Speaker 2: a trip to a museum.
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  Speaker 1: Did you just say.
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  Speaker 9: That I did?
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  Speaker 1: That's exactly correct. No wonder nobody is covering this case.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody wants to say the state screwed up. They let
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  Speaker 2: this girl go missing on their trip to a museum.
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  Speaker 2: What parent doesn't want the child to go learn something
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  Speaker 2: at a museum? But it's a defects defacts had her okay?
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, Elaine.
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  Speaker 9: So the details are scant. Obviously, police are not releasing
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  Speaker 9: a lot. But they are saying that she quote left
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  Speaker 9: the group, so we don't know what that means. Did
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  Speaker 9: she go to the bathroom, did she try to make
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  Speaker 9: a call. Did she just walk away? We don't know
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  Speaker 9: how she left?
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  Speaker 1: Aligne Do I care? Does it matter? Grip reality check.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if she went to the bathroom or
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  Speaker 2: if she went to the phone.
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  Speaker 1: She is g n E gone.
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  Speaker 2: A fourteen year old little girl is lost somewhere in
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  Speaker 2: New Orleans while she's on a tour of a museum.
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  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, John Pizzorro joining me. Raven Ceo,
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  Speaker 2: former New Jersey State Police commander of Internet Crimes against
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  Speaker 2: Children and so much more.
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  Speaker 1: You can find them at raven dot us.
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  Speaker 2: John, how many child six trafficking cases you have handled
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  Speaker 2: is probably countless, but from a public venue, help me.
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  Speaker 1: It starts.
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  Speaker 10: It starts like this, Nancy. It's the Internet, right, so
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  Speaker 10: it doesn't matter everyone has, whether they're Instagram, whether it's Snap.
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  Speaker 10: Very easy for an offender to get a hold of
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  Speaker 10: an individual and groom them, and a lot of people
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  Speaker 10: think grooming is just a gift. It's that conversation back
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  Speaker 10: and forth that trust is easy. All she has to
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  Speaker 10: say is, look, I'm going to be at a museum here,
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  Speaker 10: and that's where the offender meets her. She steps out,
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  Speaker 10: and then she's gone, hold your.
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  Speaker 1: Horses, Bizarro.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any indication this child has been groomed.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any indication, not even a shred a
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  Speaker 2: stilla of evidence, to suggest someone had been communicating with
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  Speaker 2: her online.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm going to circle.
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  Speaker 2: Back to that specifically as it relates to the little
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  Speaker 2: girl that was trafficked out of the mav Stadium, how
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  Speaker 2: she was found thanks to the Internet and people just
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  Speaker 2: like you, her life was saved. In this case, I'm
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  Speaker 2: talking about how many children end up being taken from
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  Speaker 2: public venues like malls, like games, like football, games, like museums,
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  Speaker 2: a lot.
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  Speaker 10: You know, it's just where it's opportunity, right, So it's
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  Speaker 10: very easy to get someone in that area of an
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  Speaker 10: opportunity where there's tons of kids. No one notices today,
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  Speaker 10: And I think that's what people don't realize. Yes, there's
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  Speaker 10: posters in every airport, but are people really paying attention?
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  Speaker 10: And I think that's where it's easy because people get lost,
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  Speaker 10: They get lost in the crowd, and people aren't looking
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  Speaker 10: for that, and that's where offenders are going to go.
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  Speaker 10: They're going to go where there's a ton of people
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  Speaker 10: and there's a lot of confusion. And I think that's
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  Speaker 10: the reality.
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  Speaker 11: Louisiana's Orleans Parish Department of Children and Family Services plans
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  Speaker 11: a day trip for foster children too at New Orleans
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  Speaker 11: Museum May twenty second. Among the children is Christall. Christall, fourteen,
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  Speaker 11: enjoys the day out with their friends, smiling and making
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  Speaker 11: silly faces for a group photo, but later, during a
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  Speaker 11: head count, DCFS agents realize Christall is gone. No child
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  Speaker 11: or adult knows where Christall disappeared.
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  Speaker 2: Elaine Annasitas joining us Elaine Atha's is senior crime investigative
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  Speaker 2: reporter at The Messenger. Elaine, again, thank you for being
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  Speaker 2: with us. Did I just hear later they did a
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  Speaker 2: head count? What they just let them run a muck
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  Speaker 2: and then at the end of the day they get
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  Speaker 2: together and go, oh, somebody's missing. It's like what you're
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  Speaker 2: missing a sock out of the dryer.
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  Speaker 9: That is actually a shocking detail, like no one notices
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  Speaker 9: until they do a head count, and adults don't know,
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  Speaker 9: the children don't know she was there at one point
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  Speaker 9: and then just disappears into thin air.
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  Speaker 2: Basically, guys, we were talking earlier about a little girl
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  Speaker 2: that goes missing from a Mavericks gang that she was
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  Speaker 2: attending with her father sitting side by side. She asked
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  Speaker 2: to go to the bathroom, and then she never comes back.
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  Speaker 2: The father raises the alarm, he can't get any help. Finally,
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  Speaker 2: he wanders around the Maverick stadium until he finds a
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  Speaker 2: security office and they pull up video and ours before
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  Speaker 2: they see the little girl being led out by adult
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  Speaker 2: males out of the stadium.
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  Speaker 1: She's missing. Listen, the mom called me.
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  Speaker 8: Toggles on our radar for four to five hours before
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  Speaker 8: we located the ads. From some of the photos in
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  Speaker 8: the ads, you can match up curtains or bed sheets,
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  Speaker 8: or wallpaper or the.
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  Speaker 7: Photo that's on the wall. You can tell at least
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  Speaker 7: what brand hotel it was.
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  Speaker 6: It's good news that she's been located and awful news
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  Speaker 6: that she's on a prostitutional website. I mean, you can
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  Speaker 6: your mind just can't even go to what awful things
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  Speaker 6: are done to her.
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  Speaker 7: When I called Oklahoma CITYPD, the lieutenant that answered the
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  Speaker 7: phone was a former advice detective who woke up the
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  Speaker 7: vice lieutenant at one o'clock in the morning and they
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  Speaker 7: started moving immediately.
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  Speaker 8: Those men ran.
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  Speaker 7: For twenty seven hours straight.
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  Speaker 2: They find the little girl on a prostitution website wearing
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  Speaker 2: grown lady laingerie. And from that photo and this was
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  Speaker 2: just hours after she was taken out of the Mavericks Stadium,
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  Speaker 2: they could identify what brand hotel it is based on
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  Speaker 2: for instance, curtains.
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  Speaker 1: Bedspreads, wallpaper.
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  Speaker 2: They identify the hotel based on the background, the surroundings
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  Speaker 2: in that photo. Now on a prostitution website, this is
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  Speaker 2: a fifteen year.
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  Speaker 1: Old little girl a joining me.
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  Speaker 2: John Pizzorro RAVENCEO at Raven dot us. Former New Jersey
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  Speaker 2: State Police commander of Internet Crimes against Children John explain
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  Speaker 2: how this little girl just fifteen ends up on institution
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  Speaker 2: website where you order up a prostitute like you're ordering
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  Speaker 2: a pizza online and they just show up at your door.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 10: It's the Internet, I mean, and honestly, there's so many sites.
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  Speaker 10: If you look at tor the darknet, there's a place
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  Speaker 10: for people to look for that, and traffickers and offenders
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  Speaker 10: know how to market to those areas and that's all
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  Speaker 10: it takes. We've had people purchase children from different countries
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  Speaker 10: in different places for thousands of dollars just to have
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  Speaker 10: sex with eight year olds and nine year olds and
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  Speaker 10: twelve year olds. So it happens more common than people
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  Speaker 10: actually realize that they can. They can't fathom it now.
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  Speaker 2: It's my understanding, Elaine athis that this most likely occurred
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  Speaker 2: in the World War Two museum. For whatever reason, local
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  Speaker 2: police are not telling us exact museum it is, but
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  Speaker 2: in photos that have been released, it looks like the
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  Speaker 2: World War II Museum there in New Orleans, which is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: My children have been there. Do you have information about
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  Speaker 2: which museum it is? Now?
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  Speaker 9: Police are not releasing details about this case. They're keeping
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  Speaker 9: it very close.
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  Speaker 12: They know.
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  Speaker 9: All they have reported is that she left the group
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  Speaker 9: while at a museum in downtown New Orleans. I agree
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  Speaker 9: with you, that makes the most sense. It's a very
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  Speaker 9: popular museum, and you know since you've been there, it's
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  Speaker 9: in that crowded area of downtown by the Square, lots
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  Speaker 9: of people, it's summertime. It makes complete sense that she
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  Speaker 9: could disappear without people noticing.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean thinking about this museum and how
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  Speaker 2: huge it is. Joining me Lynn Shaw dedicated to ending
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  Speaker 2: human trafficking, specifically of children. Lynn, this is a huge facility,
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  Speaker 2: and from what I'm gleaning the chaperones from defacts, we're
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  Speaker 2: probably back having a cup of coffee in the gift
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  Speaker 2: shop area while the children ran them uk wherever they wished.
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  Speaker 4: Nancy, I'm actually sitting here having whiplash because I keep
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  Speaker 4: shaking my head.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 4: Hearing all of this, Why can't we get more of
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  Speaker 4: the facts from the police department. That's my number one question.
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  Speaker 4: John Bizero is exactly right. Things start on the internet.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Why can't we hear more about her digital footprint, her phone?
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: We have questions because let me point out, with all
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: of these foster homes, family services, children's services, we know
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: we work directly with survivors, over sixty percent of them
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: will relay when they've ended up in any of those facilities.
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: They are retrafficked, revictimized. So why aren't we talking about there?
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: So we scant details, So why aren't we asking about
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: this group? Supposedly she's an at risk child?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Okay? Here in New York, I see little kids.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: They've got a in nursery school, they got a leader
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: at the front, they got a leader at the back.
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: They're doing headcounts left and right, a large museum where
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: anybody could wander off, and they're not protecting an already
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: at risk child. I'm not a lawyer, Nancy, you are.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Where's the civil liability here? Because I am tired of
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: hearing about these stories of kids just go missing. Nobody
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: just goes missing. Somewhere, someone knows something, and we need
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: more information because if you don't act immediately when a
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: child goes missing, the chances are within forty eight hours
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: that child is gone.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: Don Siler joining me, expert in anti trafficking and a
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: victim of human trafficking, herself way in dawn.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: I would like to agree also that there's a lot
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of questions around the digital imprint of this child. What
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: did that look like?
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: Was she.
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Previously sexually abused and or exploited by somebody? Did she
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: have a quote unquote boyfriend who was also her trafficker
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: constantly get try to get a hold of her.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Was there peer recruitment?
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: This is another thing that we look at when we
• 22:14
  Speaker 5: look at youth who are being drawn back out over
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: and over again. Is that the friends that they hang
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: out with, they're luring them out and connecting them with
• 22:23
  Speaker 5: an exploiter, with a trafficker. We also don't know if
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: she's got you know, we know that youth is her vulnerability,
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: but what about any disabilities? Does she have any type
• 22:32
  Speaker 5: of disabilities that would make her more vulnerable.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: I have a lot of questions.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: DCFS workers report Christall missing and New Orleans PD canvas
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: the museum's campus and surrounding city blocks, but no sign
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: of the little girl. Investigators now say they fear Crystall
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: has been trafficked for sex. NOPD has not yet released
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: information explaining the theory, but trafficking is not uncommon in
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: the city. With fifteen hundred new trafficking cases reported in three.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Not only is this a six acre campus if it
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: is in fact the World War II Museum in New Orleans.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: We also have the issue of camps, summer camps. There
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: is the Bob and Dolores Hope Summer Theater camp that's happening.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: There is the preparation for the victory bills Illuminate the night.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: There is a stage door Idol happening. There's the Blue
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Star Museum's program where active duty service members and family members.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Can show up.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: Think about all the people flooding in and out for
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: these camps, and.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: What about predators?
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Doctor John Delatory joining me, psychologist, renowned psychologist who specializes
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: in forensic psychology, and you can find them at resolution
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: FCS dot com.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us. Think about it.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: This is a pedophile's dream come true. A six acre
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: campus full of children at day camps. I'm sure a
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: predator couldn't be happier. And then you throw in that
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: intangible fact or the ingredient to make them the happiest
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: unsupervised children that belong to Defacts Department Family Children's Services Defacts.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: You think they're paying attention to these children.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: That's their day off.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: They're kickback having a coffee by the gift shop while
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: these children in their care are wandering around a.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Six acre facility.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: A predator, a pedophile, knows all of these camps are
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: happening there. You might as well throw that pedophile right
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: in to a pot of jam. For Pete's sake. They're
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: swomen in honey right now. That's what this is.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Uh, Doctor Delatrey's satellite is Dan. Let me throw that
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: to Lynn Shaw.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: This entire six acre campus is a pedophiles dream come true.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: Nancy, and especially it's the end of the school year,
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: so forget where Christall even came from. You've got so
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: many school groups going in their camp groups, performing arts groups.
• 25:26
  Speaker 4: You've got all kinds of kids in this museum. So
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: I say to you, even that that tells us if
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I know it, if you know it, at risk, at
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: risk wherever their kids are, So are the predators. And
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: I have to ask, don't museums usually have cameras? How
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: come we're not hearing anything about video footage the inside
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: of the museum, the outside of the museum. Because I
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: can't walk through a museum. I might get too close
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: here in New York to a display and I got
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: alarms going off. So I'm not understanding. Also, what about
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: the buddy system. You know, maybe one woman moderator brings
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: four girls if she indeed did say I have to
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: go to the ladies room, you know, the girls room.
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: I have so many questions about this case. Again, it
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: brings me back. My mind keeps going back to this
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: kind of digital footprint. Did she pre plan this? Was
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: there somebody on the other end. Was she able just
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: to mix yourself into that crowd, because this is what
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: it seems like and just take off. Why these moderators,
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: these people should be held accountable. I don't understand.
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: Reiterate again, why can't we have more details? Because the
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: faster we have details, the faster we even put the
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: public today on top of have you seen this child,
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: we will get answers. This is just a disgraceful case
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: in my opinion.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm looking at, John Bizzarro joining me,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: former New Jersey State Police command or Internet Crimes against
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Children Unit, John, I'm looking at the layout of the
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: World War Two museum. As I said, it's six acres,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: but there are six huge segments of them. You've got
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: the the Louisiana Memorial Pavilion, the Solomon Victory Theater, the
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Campaigns of Courage, the Liberation Pavilion, the US Freedom Pavilion,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: the Hall of Democracy, and the American Sector where one
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: of the restaurants is.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: So not only are there.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Six huge structures, they're multiple floors to each structure, to
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: many of the structures. So she could have gone missing
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: anywhere in there, been led away anywhere in there. And
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: lin Shaw's correct, there are two hundred and seventy surveillance
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: cameras in that facility, but we're not hearing anything about
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: anybody checking for those camera potential photos of the girl
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: being led away, What exits she took, Did she just
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: walk out the front if by an emergency exit, did
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: it not alarm It's just very difficult for me to
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: believe that with nearly three hundred surveillance cameras, we can't
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: catch this girl being led out of the museum.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: Without a question.
• 28:15
  Speaker 10: And two, there's technology that exists beyond the cameras. Let's
• 28:18
  Speaker 10: talk about facial recognition. Especially when we're looking for victims,
• 28:22
  Speaker 10: they should be able to do that. Forensically, there's software
• 28:26
  Speaker 10: that you can take and parse out all that data.
• 28:29
  Speaker 10: So when we talk about that digital footprint and we're
• 28:32
  Speaker 10: investigating that, there's a lot of data to come through,
• 28:36
  Speaker 10: and that's what law enforcement, I would imagine is doing
• 28:39
  Speaker 10: right now. But they should be able to see what
• 28:42
  Speaker 10: entrance someone left, and especially because it's so vast and
• 28:47
  Speaker 10: there's so many access points, you have surveillance to the cameras,
• 28:53
  Speaker 10: there's license plate readers outside, there's a lot of different
• 28:58
  Speaker 10: techniques that investigators can use that are at their disposal
• 29:02
  Speaker 10: to help our locate our guys.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Did I just hear Jean Pizarro state.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: You'd think that police would X fill in the blanks.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: My entire legal career, fighting crime, I have relied on
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: police officers, sheriffs, investigators, crime lab scientists to help me
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: prosecute violent felonies.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: But I want you to hear this. Listen.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Many are concerned by the apparent lack of response from
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: police and dcfs in the case of critically missing young
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: girl Cristal, The fourteen year old now missing for nearly
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: seven weeks, with little to no media coverage and no
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: updates from law enforcement or DCFS. New Orleans PD has
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: now enlisted the help of the FBI, but DCFS has
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: not commented on how a teen girl disappeared while under
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: their care.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Elaine Athias joining US investigative report or senior crime reporter
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: at the Messenger. Can you imagine that DEFECTS has a
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: comment on how they let a little fourteen year old
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: girl slip between their fingers at a public venue.
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: They this is completely what I would expect. You know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 9: as journalists, it's our job to ask questions, and I
• 30:20
  Speaker 9: always found that when you know government agencies had something
• 30:27
  Speaker 9: to hide, they weren't really quick with answers. And so
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: this is something she is literally in their care. I
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: agree with what was said earlier. I mean even the
• 30:39
  Speaker 9: most basic buddy system, you know, you do that in kindergarten.
• 30:44
  Speaker 9: It's like, why didn't anyone know where she was at
• 30:49
  Speaker 9: all times? And so it does not surprise me that
• 30:53
  Speaker 9: the Department agency is not commenting.
• 31:03
  Speaker 11: Crime stores with Nancy Grace, fourteen year old Christall now
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: missing seven weeks and no word on investigators progress, if any,
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: in finding Christall, who's now listed as a critically missing juvenile.
• 31:20
  Speaker 11: Anyone with information or who may have seen christall Is
• 31:23
  Speaker 11: asked to call New Orleans PD Special Investigations Division at
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: five oh four six five eight five two sixty seven.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: A child disappearing right under the noses of Defects. Well,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it would be the first time a child disappears or worse,
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: under defects supervision.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Listen, I'm.
• 31:47
  Speaker 9: Out, man coming on in the house.
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, there the man, the children.
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: I dropped off the ken. He wouldn't let me in
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: the door.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: Come little boys in the house and.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: There's an adult man yet, get the kid and the
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: husband and the father. What you have?
• 32:10
  Speaker 13: Yeah?
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, find be doing I think.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, that would be Josh Powell and his two little boys.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: The little boys now dead. They were hacked in the
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: neck with an aunt with an axe.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: By daddy, the father.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: Josh Powell already killed the mom, Susan Powell.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Nothing was done about that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: So then daddy gets supervised visit supervised by DEFECTS. Wow,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: then how is it defacts manages to survive and the
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: two little boys are killed because Defects wasn't there.
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: Listen, Okay, so you're supposed to be there to supervide
• 32:50
  Speaker 8: Josh Powell with the children.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crack and here's the husband knitting Powell. How
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: did the high profile he how did he get that
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: to the children?
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: I would want stepping back of them, walk you out.
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: The two little boys are dead and they were in
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: the care of defects.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But that's not all. Do you recall the name Serenity?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Serenity Dinard another child who disappears or worse in the
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: care of those entrusted to safeguard her, to make sure
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: she grows up.
• 33:43
  Speaker 13: Listen, it was ten forty five am on a Sunday morning.
• 33:46
  Speaker 13: Serenity is in the gym at the Black Hills Children's Home,
• 33:49
  Speaker 13: but two staffers and three other kids. One child causes
• 33:53
  Speaker 13: the disturbance and a staffer attends to that child. Serenity
• 33:58
  Speaker 13: then ran out of the building at a let seven am.
• 34:00
  Speaker 13: Serenity is last seen walking near the home at twelve
• 34:04
  Speaker 13: twenty six PM. A nine to one one call goes
• 34:07
  Speaker 13: out to the Pennington County Sheriff's Department. A deputy arrives
• 34:11
  Speaker 13: at twelve forty by one sixteen. The decision is made
• 34:15
  Speaker 13: to bring in search and rescue.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, how long did that take before.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: The counselors and the state workers decided to act on
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the fact that they had let the child disappear.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: This beautiful little girl's Serenity.
• 34:30
  Speaker 12: Listen, there was an eighty minute delay before nine to
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: one one was called. And that's just inexplicable. I think
• 34:37
  Speaker 12: it was a matter of you know, it was a
• 34:39
  Speaker 12: Super Bowl Sunday. People there were well, let's let's look
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: for her. She had run off in the past, let's
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: find her on our own first. But an hour and
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: twenty minutes really is you know that that raises a
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: big question mark about the judgment of those employees. Certainly,
• 34:53
  Speaker 12: not having you know, authorities trained in search and beginning
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: a widespread search immediately or as soon as possible was
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: a big mistake.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: The Black Hill's Children's Home, I'm very familiar with it now.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: After Serenity Dinard disappears from the home ground she's never
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: been seen again. Intimately familiar with that case is Lynn Shaw,
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: founder and director Lynz Warriors.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: I'm sure you recall the Serenity Denard case.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: Lynn, Yes, because I joined you to discuss that case
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: on the program. I want to say something. All of
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: my inbox every day, my emails one after the other
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: of missing children, not adults, We're talking children, including babies, infants,
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: one after the other. I am inundated on a daily basis,
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: seven days a week. I think it's fair to say,
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: with all of this going on, all of the discussion,
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: all of this mismanagement, our precious children are at risk.
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: I'm going to point out again I believe this is
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: a national crisis, and I believe all of these systems
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: for years, Nancy, I'm hearing this doesn't work with Theartment
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: of Social Services Kids Families. We don't have resources, we
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: don't have man woman power enough enough. In twenty twenty four,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: we need to blow up this system. Start from the
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: ground up, get vetted employees who are passionate about children.
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: And this is where moneys should be spent, because all
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: I'm seeing is it's escalating every single hour of every
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: day and there's no follow up. We do thank Goodness
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: for your program because you stay on it and you
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: follow up on these children. Because I don't see many
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: other people doing anything about any of this.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: If you look at the Black Killed Children's Home website,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: our mission to prevent, treat and heal trauma, This little
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Serenity Gennard goes missing from the home and they wait
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: nearly two hours before they even call in a missing person.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: She's never been found again.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: We have talked about Josh Powell's children being murdered while
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: DEFACTS was supposed to be supervising them. We have talked
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: about Serenity Dinard missing I'm sure now dead under the
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: care of the Black Hills Children Home. But what about
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Harmony Montgomery.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: February of twenty nineteen, Harmony's father, Adam Montgomery, was awarded
• 37:22
  Speaker 11: custody by the Juvenile Court of Massachusetts. Harmony Montgomery was
• 37:25
  Speaker 11: last seen by her biological mother, Crystal Story, Easter twenty nineteen.
• 37:30
  Speaker 11: In November twenty twenty one, Crystal Story calls police and
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: tells them about Harmony and how she can't find her.
• 37:36
  Speaker 11: Even though Harmony Montgomery had been in and out of
• 37:38
  Speaker 11: foster care for most of her short life, a judge
• 37:41
  Speaker 11: placed her with her father, and now nobody, including DCF,
• 37:45
  Speaker 11: seems to know what happened to her or where she is.
• 37:48
  Speaker 14: She was kidnapped and held against her will for three
• 37:52
  Speaker 14: hundred and ninety nine days. He starved her, he tortured her,
• 37:58
  Speaker 14: he assaulted her in every way that you can imagine.
• 38:02
  Speaker 14: He kept her in a dog cage for days and
• 38:05
  Speaker 14: days at a time. He treated her. The way that
• 38:11
  Speaker 14: he treated her was inhuman. It is so hard for
• 38:13
  Speaker 14: me to even imagine the treatment that she received.
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: You are hearing Shauna Burns speaking out after her daughter
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Haley was kidnapped and held captive and sex assaulted and starved.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It should be a.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Warning, but apparently Defects didn't hear about that. Adjoining me
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is John Pisorro. I'm very concerned John, about how this
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: child that we're talking about tonight, Gristal's case has gotten
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: a little or no coverage. We're not getting any updates
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: from local police. We're also not being told even the
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: museum from which she disappeared. I guess that's top secret too.
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: I would think other parents would want to know that
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: that's the museum where the little girl went missing, but
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: we can't even get that out of the police. No.
• 39:10
  Speaker 10: And I think that's part of the problem, right. So,
• 39:13
  Speaker 10: I think what's happening is that there's not a lot
• 39:15
  Speaker 10: of information and a lot of these cases, for whatever reason,
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: they don't garn our attention. And I think it's problematic
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: is because a lot of these state agencies that are
• 39:25
  Speaker 10: supposed to protect the children in their care do not
• 39:28
  Speaker 10: take the adequate steps. I know in my experience that
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: we've run into that time and time and again, where
• 39:35
  Speaker 10: the Division of Youth and Family Services type agencies which
• 39:38
  Speaker 10: are supposed to watch children actually don't. And I think
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: that's part of the problem. And there's no information there,
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: and I think there is in lies.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: The problem is this little girl just to throw away.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: No police updates, no information about her case.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Nothing. Christal is gone.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: That's all we know. While in the care of defects.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: If you know or think you know information on this
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: little girl's whereabouts?
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Is she dead? Is she alive?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Where is she? We haven't heard a word from her parents.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Couldn't even track them down. Do they even care? Five
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: zero four six ' five eight five two six seven
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: Nancy Grace signing off goodbye friend.