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94 I Was Abducted by Aliens! Hypnotic Regression and Alien Memories · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Ida of Jupiter. This is episode
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  Speaker 1: ninety four with Carter Buschhard or Bushard, but it's the
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  Speaker 1: German name, so I Buschhard's automatic with me. Anyhow, he
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  Speaker 1: came on the show and it was an incredible interview.
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  Speaker 1: Was he was adducted many many times, in the first
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  Speaker 1: time happening when he was eight years old, and this
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  Speaker 1: came to him. This revelation came to him later in
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  Speaker 1: his life when he had regression therapy, which he has
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  Speaker 1: now been to on numerous occasions, and every time he goes,
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  Speaker 1: more and more comes out. He gets into Machu pichu
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  Speaker 1: and dreams and all the crazy things that he has
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  Speaker 1: discovered while being under someone else's direct care under hypnosis.
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  Speaker 1: hope you guys enjoyed this episode of is incredibly fascinating
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  Speaker 1: and I really enjoyed having on one. Mister Carter bush Art.
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  Speaker 1: That's the best way, that's the best entrance of any
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  Speaker 1: you're excited.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're rimating. I was spellbound.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of my songs. I wrote a song called Spellbound.
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  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I couldn't resist. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Man, First of all, thanks so much for coming on
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  Speaker 1: to show man. Appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where did I Where did I hear from? You?
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  Speaker 2: Was it? Somebody said you had a new show, new guy,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it was one of my I think I'm
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  Speaker 2: a moderator for one of the groups like Sasquatch group
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  Speaker 2: or I can't remember, but I just saw, Hey, this
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  Speaker 2: guy's got a new show. Check him out. Do you
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  Speaker 2: want to do a podcast? And so there you go.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard of it.
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  Speaker 1: That's cool, Yeah that that it's not as necessarily you knew.
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  Speaker 1: I've been around for the island about a year, year
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  Speaker 1: and a half something like that. But I'm moving and
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  Speaker 1: just you know, keep chopping away at the stone, chopping wood,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just keep moving along. And uh, I just
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  Speaker 1: enjoy talking to people having conversations. I think that's my
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  Speaker 1: favorite part of all of it. And I just love
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  Speaker 1: hearing you know, like you know, people you know with
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  Speaker 1: their experiences that are just out of the ordinary or
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  Speaker 1: you know, ideas and just just general you know, human stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, my my story is just a
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  Speaker 2: really bizarre and I uh you know, I'm I'm seventy four.
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  Speaker 2: Oh I did you look?
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  Speaker 1: You look at you to look at day past seventy three?
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  Speaker 1: My friend, that's what I got.
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  Speaker 2: To sleep on the intail there. I had that coming.
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  Speaker 2: So but uh I had no idea that any of this,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it had happened. You know, I was you know,
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  Speaker 2: uhift the seven eight year old kid in Dallas, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I mean and uh, and I've found out.
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  Speaker 2: I guess the way I've found out is more stocking. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: It was two thousand and four, uh when myself, my
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  Speaker 2: wife and another couple thoughts and we said, around our
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  Speaker 2: house Friday night.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so you are a stand up? All right, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you, bro.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well I'm not a stand up. I was
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  Speaker 2: really good at improv, so I stand up, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: the old man material just did not go over with
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  Speaker 2: this young crowd. But anyhow, so a couple we're sitting
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  Speaker 2: around my house with my wife and I and actually
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  Speaker 2: the the husband and wife that we were with. Of
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  Speaker 2: the wife, Nancy, she was the wife of my comedy
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  Speaker 2: partner who had passed away. So she had remarried and
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  Speaker 2: she was int reki and uh healing and spirituality and
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  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. So we were just start
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  Speaker 2: sitting there talking. We decided, I wonder if I had
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  Speaker 2: a past life. You know, we all wonder, you know,
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  Speaker 2: And I always thought I was a woman when I was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, thinking about past life. I always felt like
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  Speaker 2: I was a woman. Don't know why. I just did
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  Speaker 2: so anyway, we back in two thousand and four, you
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  Speaker 2: could still pick up a phone book, so because we
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  Speaker 2: had one, so we could pick up a phone book,
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  Speaker 2: and I looked up hypnotic regression, and I'll we don't
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  Speaker 2: know if I didn't find one. Uh. So we called
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  Speaker 2: made an appointment for the next day, Saturday, and so
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  Speaker 2: we drove out to her place. She had a big
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  Speaker 2: barn and she had a maze cut into her property,
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  Speaker 2: so you would walk this maize and chill and meditate
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  Speaker 2: before you went into the barn, which was her studio,
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  Speaker 2: and there's haybills and chairs and everything. So we all
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  Speaker 2: were watching each other go under. We were recording the
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  Speaker 2: whole session, and so my wife went first, and she
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  Speaker 2: couldn't go under control issues. You know, it's a famous
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  Speaker 2: reason why people can't be you know, Boo Tizs's control issues.
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  Speaker 2: So then Steve went under her Nancy's husband, and he
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  Speaker 2: had one really interesting past life that was verifiable, made sense.
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  Speaker 2: And she went under next Nancy, and she had two
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  Speaker 2: and that was pretty interesting and I won't waste a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time with but they were intriguing. And so
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  Speaker 2: then it was my turn, and I went last, and
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  Speaker 2: I was falling, I was stammering, I was resisting. It
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  Speaker 2: was just like I didn't want to do it. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to talk. I was just shifting and fighting
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  Speaker 2: it and it was just really weird. And all of
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  Speaker 2: a sudden, she finally got me under and I started
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  Speaker 2: talking like a little eight year old carter. She heads
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  Speaker 2: up with me, stop it, stop it, leave me alone.
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing to me? What are you doing
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  Speaker 2: to my friend? I just started freaking the f out
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  Speaker 2: And you see this?
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  Speaker 1: Are you seeing this after you recorded? So when this
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  Speaker 1: is you recalling looking back at the recording?
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, we were recording live. So uh they
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  Speaker 2: told me, you know what what happened? Because I didn't know.
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  Speaker 2: So when she brought me out, I've got tears of
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  Speaker 2: running down my face and everybody's looking at me, all
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  Speaker 2: four and they're looking at me and they're like, just
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  Speaker 2: mouths wide open. I'm going, what what? What? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: What are you doing? What happened? What did I say?
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  Speaker 2: What do I do? Was that that chick in the sixties? What? What? No?
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  Speaker 2: But so they said do you don't? And they told
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  Speaker 2: me and I was bored. I described being abducted with
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  Speaker 2: a buddy of mine in Dallas, Texas July to be
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  Speaker 2: eight or nine somewhere in there, and we were taking
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  Speaker 2: a boarder craft and that started what's going on with me?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: They they've come after me. Most recently I think was
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three here at my
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  Speaker 2: house they came to do something. So that was two
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  Speaker 2: thousand and four. So fast forward to like now I've
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  Speaker 2: been regressed eight times and from that came the book.
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  Speaker 2: I have all my sessions recorded. Are you Are you
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  Speaker 2: familiar with Doris Cannon?
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  Speaker 1: The name does ring a bell, but I don't. I
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  Speaker 1: can't recall it now.
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  Speaker 3: She she would be in the Bud Hopkins John mac
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  Speaker 3: upper echelon of regression hypnotists that okay, get stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Out, look her up. She passed away in twenty fourteen.
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  Speaker 2: Her daughters still run her foundation in Arkansas, which is
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  Speaker 2: where I went because I was in Dallas at the time.
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  Speaker 2: And so they train top tier, fourth tier regression hypnotist.
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  Speaker 2: If there's something that needs to get out of your brain,
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  Speaker 2: they will get it out. It's one tier, two, tier three,
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  Speaker 2: tier four or fourth tiers. The top. They're pretty expensive,
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  Speaker 2: but they know their stuff, and the Lord's strained all.
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  Speaker 2: So when I went under with her twice do Wars
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  Speaker 2: died in twenty fourteen. I think I went under with
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  Speaker 2: her in two thousand and five and again in twenty
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  Speaker 2: ten and so, but the what really happened was me
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  Speaker 2: and my buddy riding a bike. We're racing our bikes Dallas, Texas,
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  Speaker 2: hot July day, dottern head and we are just having
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  Speaker 2: a blast, and we're right in front of my house
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  Speaker 2: and we run a stop thigh. We were racing our bikes,
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  Speaker 2: were having fun for kids. You know, we're stupid, what
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  Speaker 2: do we know? So, and but this car blows by
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  Speaker 2: and it almost hits us, you know, on my my shirts.
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  Speaker 2: You're flapping into the breeze. It's like, oh god, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And we were both looking at each other like how
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  Speaker 2: did that car miss us? What happened? Oh my god?
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  Speaker 2: You know, my mom's didn't work. Women didn't work back
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  Speaker 2: in the fifties, late fifties, So my mom was home,
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  Speaker 2: and so I thought, oh god, she's home, she's she's
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  Speaker 2: she's Well, the car didn't kill us, but my mother
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  Speaker 2: will because being a dumb ass runner to stop, you know.
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  Speaker 2: So but she didn't see it.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 2: The car was not a car. It was a spacecraft.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason I saw a car was you're familiar
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  Speaker 2: with screen memories, I assumed.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, like projections and things of this nature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so what I saw was a beautiful nineteen fifty
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  Speaker 2: one Buick Roadmaster. And my grandparents had a blue nineteen
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  Speaker 2: fifty one Buick Roadmaster in their garage in Houston, Texas.
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  Speaker 2: Screen memory number one. It blocks the memory of the spacecraft.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the blue car, and after I woke up
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  Speaker 2: and started doing some research. This is where it gets
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  Speaker 2: really creepy. My wife and I a week or two
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  Speaker 2: before we went to get hypnotized, we had called. We
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  Speaker 2: decided we wanted to restore old cars. We've restored about
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  Speaker 2: seven or eight. Okay, we have a nineteen fifty nine Thunderbird.
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  Speaker 2: Now that that's our fun car, you know. So uh,
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  Speaker 2: I looked up on the car ads online and I
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  Speaker 2: found a guy selling yess what in Chicago fifty one
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  Speaker 2: Bwick freaking Roadmaster.
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  Speaker 1: Yes that sometimes, you know.
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  Speaker 2: That's the war went and got regressed and found out
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  Speaker 2: that the car was not a car, It was a
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  Speaker 2: screen memory for a craft. So we had already ordered
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  Speaker 2: that car and it was being delivered from Chicago. What Yo,
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  Speaker 2: how does that even happen?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: And so my grandparents had never driven that car. They
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  Speaker 2: were too old to drive by the time I got
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  Speaker 2: to know them well, you know, And so they never
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  Speaker 2: drove the car, but they used that car as a
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  Speaker 2: screen memory. Now, I'm not gonna where to go with
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  Speaker 2: this now. But the guy I got, the guy I
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  Speaker 2: got taken with the first time, Craig. I won't say
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  Speaker 2: his last name because he's six, still alive. I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: find him anymore. I was looking for him, and so
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  Speaker 2: we hung out a lot. We hung out all the
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  Speaker 2: time in our neighborhood. Now my birthday September sixteenth, nineteen
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  Speaker 2: fifty one. His birthday September sixteenth, nineteen fifty one. Another
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  Speaker 2: kid I hung out with in my neighborhood, September sixteenth,
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  Speaker 2: nineteen fifty one. We were three kids, two abductees. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: the third Gordon, I'm pretty sure I saw him. If
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  Speaker 2: you're gonna abduct its or anybody, do you want the
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  Speaker 2: best possible results? What could be any better than having
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  Speaker 2: three people the exact same biological age and maturity. We're
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  Speaker 2: all nine years old. We're all born September sixteenth, nineteen
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  Speaker 2: fifty one. Gordon the buddy of mine, the other guy.
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  Speaker 2: We hung out a lot. We were in boy Scouts together,
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  Speaker 2: and we went to high school together. So I'm going, well,
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  Speaker 2: I gotta find Craig. I gotta find him and see
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  Speaker 2: what's going on with this. So I look up. I
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  Speaker 2: won't use his last name. There's eleven craigs with his
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  Speaker 2: last name in the United States. I paid another couple
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  Speaker 2: of extra bucks and I got a phone number for Well,
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking through them all. I'm going no, no, no, yep.
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  Speaker 2: There he is September sixte eight, nineteen fifty one.
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  Speaker 1: That's it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going, holy crap, this is easy. I should be
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  Speaker 2: a detective. So I call him up. The first thing
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  Speaker 2: I did was leave him a Facebook message. He's one
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  Speaker 2: of these guys. He had a Facebook account and he
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  Speaker 2: hadn't been on there in like two years, you know,
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  Speaker 2: went on there.
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  Speaker 1: This was.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know how long ago was, but anyway, he
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  Speaker 2: hadn't made a post in over two years, and so
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  Speaker 2: I left a post. He didn't get back. So I thought, well,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just I'll call the guy. I paid twelve bucks
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  Speaker 2: first phone number, I'm gonna use it. So I called
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  Speaker 2: him up one afternoon and he answered the phone. I said, Craig, yes,
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  Speaker 2: he's this. Uh, this is Carter, Carter Bouchard. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if you remember me. We grew up in the
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  Speaker 2: old neighborhood back in Dallas. Uh. No, I I never
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  Speaker 2: lived in Dallas. I said, well, we went to school together,
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  Speaker 2: we lived in the same neighborhood. No, I don't recognize
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  Speaker 2: the name or anything. I didn't I never lived in Dallas. Well,
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  Speaker 2: you and me, we burned down to your parents' garage
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  Speaker 2: by accident, setting off fireworks, and the wind blew the
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  Speaker 2: bottle rockets back down on top of us and hit
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  Speaker 2: the brush right behind their garage and they had to
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  Speaker 2: detach one car garage and burned the back half of
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  Speaker 2: it all up. So his parents grounded him from every
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  Speaker 2: sea me again. My parents grounded me from ever seeing
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  Speaker 2: him again. They said, well, that boy's just nothing but trouble.
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  Speaker 2: And his parents told him, well, that Carter boyd here's
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  Speaker 2: nothing but trouble. Right, you just don't hang out with
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  Speaker 2: him anymore. So we never saw each other again. I said,
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  Speaker 2: you don't remember any of that. I said, no, I
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  Speaker 2: never lived in Dallas. I don't know since we went
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  Speaker 2: to school together. Let me ask you something. Have you
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  Speaker 2: ever been hypnotized? He said, well, yeah, I have, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't think I liked it. I don't know if
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  Speaker 2: I believe in the technology or the science or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is. You know, I've been I've tried it a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times. I didn't like it, so I just yeah, okay, Well,
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  Speaker 2: so why are you asking? He says, Well, you and
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  Speaker 2: I were abducted taking the boarder spacecraft.
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  Speaker 1: Just dropped it on him a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I talked to this guy for
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  Speaker 2: twenty minutes. If a guy calls you up and says, hey, Tom,
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  Speaker 2: you and I were taking a border of spacecraft tape
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  Speaker 2: like a Pillsbury door boy three weeks ago. Are you
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  Speaker 2: going to hang up?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: In three seconds, you know what I mean. He continues
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  Speaker 2: having this conversation. So I'm going, okay, here's one other item.
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  Speaker 2: Your birthday September sixteenth, nineteen fifty one, right, yeah, do
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  Speaker 2: you know that? I said, Well, you and I were
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  Speaker 2: best friends partially because we did have the same birthdays,
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  Speaker 2: and we thought that was pretty cool. I never had
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  Speaker 2: a friend that had the same birthday as me, So
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  Speaker 2: that was cool. Oh well that is my birthday. But
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  Speaker 2: I don't recall. I don't know any of this. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking. I said, well, you got
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  Speaker 2: the same birthday. You have been hypnotized. You just don't
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  Speaker 2: know why, or don't like the thing. You never lived
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  Speaker 2: in Dallas, but you lived in Richardson, Texas, which is
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  Speaker 2: thirty miles north. It could be his parents got transferred.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe they moved because he got in trouble, right, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, but I know that was him. Why didn't
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  Speaker 2: he hang up on me?
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  Speaker 1: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 2: We had the conversation until I was till I was
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  Speaker 2: through talking.
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  Speaker 1: So are you trying to Are you trying to say
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  Speaker 1: that maybe he's either been hypnotized and to the point
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  Speaker 1: at which he doesn't remember the past, or that he's
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  Speaker 1: under some type of protection or something like that. Is
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  Speaker 1: that what you're trying to say?
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  Speaker 2: I think in screen, memories per still in place.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, mine.
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  Speaker 2: Are failing left and right. I'm starting to remember all
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  Speaker 2: kinds of stuff. Okay, now what I went under? Have
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  Speaker 2: you ever been hypnotized?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, what you're who you're talking to is
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  Speaker 2: you're talking to your supreme subconscious, your higher self subconscious
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  Speaker 2: true eye. Yeah, every everything Tom ever did, good, bad,
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  Speaker 2: and indifferent in his life. You know, it's locked up here.
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  Speaker 2: You may not remember it all, kind of like the
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  Speaker 2: screen memories, but you you remember it all. And so
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  Speaker 2: when you're hypnotized, they access your supreme subconscious that you're
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  Speaker 2: speaking to the aliens through that.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So uh.
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  Speaker 2: I I went under and that was him, I mean
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  Speaker 2: that was him, and he his screen memories are still working,
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  Speaker 2: or he is in some kind of incredible.
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  Speaker 1: Denial which can happen to which can talk?
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  Speaker 2: Did not know he talked like I believe that he
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  Speaker 2: wasn't Like one are the odds of you getting a
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  Speaker 2: phone call from somebody who were abducted with fifty three
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  Speaker 2: years ago?
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And you I know that voice has changed this through time.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: You know, people get that old man was right, right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure there's a certain syntax or a certain
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: way of talking that you remember. So you were certain
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: that this is the gentleman.
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the birthday.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: And he's the only one.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: Wo he and me and the Gordon guy. Okay, the
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: exame exact birthdays and it that and the phone number,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and he has been hypnotized but doesn't remember liking it
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: or thinking why am I doing the He was all
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: over the place on that, but he had been hypnotized
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: a couple of times. So he did everything but tell
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: me that was him because he doesn't remember hypothesize him.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: He did not remember it.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Now, when I went under, I don't remember which time.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: I heard this several times that when they took Craig,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: they've been taking him for a while because he had
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: what whatever they wanted he had. I showed up and
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: we just happened to be together this day and they
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: were coming after him, and I was.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: There, okay, and so.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: They took me, but we were both taken inside the craft.
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: We were both still on our bicycles. We were in
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the craft. And when I was redressed, I think this
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: is when Dolores Cannon. You really need to look her up.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: You'll be quite impressed. They told me that when they
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: took me, I was there by accident. Craig was a
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: little behind me. I was ahead of him while we
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: were racing, and so I had looked around and but
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: he had caught up and he was almost next to
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: me and looked over there he was, and then we're
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: in the craft. Now. They said they took me the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: first time because if they had not taken me, I
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: probably would have been killed. Because they demolecularized us so
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: we could go into the craft. We de materialized. Okay,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: So if because we were in the same wave field
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: or whatever science they used to do that, we were
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: in the same wave thing, and if we'd have been
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: any further apart, one of us may.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Have died, right, It makes sense. It's kind of like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: the people of reference. It's kind of like being like
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Star Trek, where they they separate you out by molecule
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: or by atom and then they re put you together
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: through the scrubbers and all that. So that's kind of
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like what you're experiencing.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so that's that's why I was there then.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: But once they realized that I had whatever they were
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: looking for, they kept coming after me.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: Can when you say they can you maybe describe them
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: a little bit, so we know.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: The ones that I saw while I was hypnotized was
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: a reptilian, a pale white Nordic, Okay, And what I
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: can only really describe is it had kind of a
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: eggplant shaped head, big round, bulbous thing here and that
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: kind of curled back down and went back down the
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: back and ended up. It looked like a long, uh plant.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It was almost kind of purplely that it went back
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: down here and uh he had a lot of tubes
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: on him, and it was like there was lights and
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: maybe it was liquid running through there. There was all
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: kind of lights, sight change changing changing and little dice
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: blinking lights and things going. It was like it was
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it's like a support system or something. Now that alien
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: uh I saw when I was uh reliving my abduction
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: from my bedroom. I was taken from all kinds of places,
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: fishing bowl, my paper route, riding bikes with my friend
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: at my house. You know. Uh so, do you any questions?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I do know, I'm just fascinating by I'm not I'm
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: not trying to put you out there on a limb. No, no, no, no,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about I'm just thinking about the you know.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting that the only thing that
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I've come up with, like just you know, off the
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: fly was like, you know, back in the fifties, all
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: the cars had these spaceship type shapes. If you look
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: at the fifty seven Belair, the fifty nine Cadillac, even
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: the fifty five bel Air. They all have these fins
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and everything. And then you're saying eight years old fifty one,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: as that means this happened in fifty nine, which is
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: only twelve years after the Roswell incident. There's just a
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: lot of things that I'm just putting together. Another question
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: I had is that, Okay, say, for example, that you
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: both were born at the same day, on the same
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: year and everything, and in the same neighborhood with another
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: friend of yours. Have you ever considered it maybe you
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: were part of an experiment that maybe your parents were
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: a part of, and that maybe you were then therefore
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: kind of you know what I mean, Like.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it it crossed my mind. Of course they're both gone.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: H But here's here's something. Uh, all my life, I
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: had this, uh recurring dream. I used to see I
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: wake up. I slept on a bunk bed, I was
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: on the top of my brothers on the warm and
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: uh I would see I would wake up. I'd see
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: gray robots going down the hall. It's like they were
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: getting a little lower, like they were going on stairs.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: They were going and it was sort of like a
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: conveyor belt, but they were kind of choppy like kind
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: of walking, but it was there were they were floating
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: as they went by, that kind of thing, but they
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: were it looked like they were going downstairs, which is
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: just kind of weird because I was on a ranch
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: in Texas. Everything's ranch, okay, So but I had that
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: it wasn't a dream, it was a memory. It's not.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It was never a dream. Every time I saw those guys,
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: they were coming to get me, Okay, But I kept
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: seeing that, and so when I was regressed, I saw that, Well,
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: they walked by my bedroom, but then they would turn
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: back around and come back in my bedroom.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: They were coming from my parents' bedroom after shutting them off,
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: so they were ok they were clicking them off. Yeah,
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: And so I assumed that, and I didn't find that
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: out for sure until my last regression, which would have
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: been February this year. I've been under so many times
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: right this, And actually the lady who took me under
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: the last time was the one who took me under
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the very first time and freaked out, and she had
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: the one we called from the phone book that was
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: she had just gotten her hypnotist license like her fifth customer.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: I'm sitting there describing an alien abduction and I'm ball
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: in my eyes. She's like.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: You.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: I she was freaking and you know, so after that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: regression the second time, we went back the next day,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: my wife and I I went back home and I
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: drew a reptilion beautiful drawing and I'm not a good
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: artist by any stretch, and I faxed it to her.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I scanned it and emailed her and she called me
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: back and said, I can't help you. I'm not prepared
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: for this. I have no idea.
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: What Who else have you talked to about these? About this?
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Have you talked to other abductees?
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Oh? God, yeah, yeah I did. I just talked to
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: old lady two hours ago. She's been a friend for
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: five years. She got my book and said, I gotta
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: talk to you, really literally. I said, I gotta go
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: because I got to do this show here in about
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: ten minutes. I'll talk tomorrow. Uh huh. She's been taking
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: had multiple babies.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: What do you mean multiple babies?
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: They had multiple She had been impregnated multiple times, and
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: they showed at least one tour, maybe more.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I'm trying. I've been trying to get on
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: for a long time. But you know, she's been having issues,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: missus Karen Wilkinson, and that's been We've been trying, you know, correspondence,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: and you know, she's been doing some medical things, but
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: she kind of talks about the same thing, you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: And it's that's why when you talked about the same
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: birthday and you're all in the same neighborhood, the even
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the probabilities that just mathematically are are difficult. Friend, They're
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: difficult to comprehend.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah so, but but so anyway, uh yeah, uh, where
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: were we.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Are you were talking about? Oh god, the second time
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: that you went back to the lady, you were the
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: fifth customer.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, uh she uh, I centered that drawing and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: she d I can't handle this. I'm new to this
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and I have no idea. I don't want to cause
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: any damage. I just can't. I can't handle it. If
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: she was she was spooked, if she was to come
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to find out. Over the last the past ten years
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: or so, we've done a lot of paranormal conferences. We've
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: both been at the same place. It's like, oh, hey,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: you know, okay, we're friends now. I mean, we weren't enemies,
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: but she was just I just lost contact.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: With It's just on the periphery, right.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: She wasn't ready for any of this, and you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to stand around awaiting me but for anybody,
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: so anyway, so uh, but she uh took me under
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: quickly because I've been under so many times. I know
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: the US. So we don't have to go through the
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: you're getting sleepy, you're getting you know, you're gonna go
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to the cloud. You're gonna step on the cloud, then
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: you're gonna climb up to another cloud. Then you're gonna
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: you're gonna drift and drift. We don't have to do
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: anything because they're gonna go out. So she got me
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: under quick. And so the first time in the fifty
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: three years since this stuff's been going on, or longer
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: sixty three, actually, I saw the bedroom with my parents
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: in it, and I saw the alien in there. I
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: walked down the hall. It was just the weirdest thing.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: I was a nine year old Carter walking down the
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: hall and you know, just grooving and out of look
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: in the bedroom and there's my mom and she's on
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: her side. She's facing the front of the house. She's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: facing a window that's right by her side of the bed.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: She's got her bathrobe on, but she's under the cover. Okay,
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: I look over and there is my father and he's
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: like a robot. He is stiff his arms and legs
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: or neatly next to him. He's like he's standing in attention,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: but he's laying down. He's fully clothed, and he's on
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: top of the covers. Okay, he's just like out. They're
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: turned off. Exactly what I thought they were doing. They
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: were clicking them off so they wouldn't interrupt what they
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: were doing.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I actually do have a question. Now, you seem quite
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: candid about it, like you know, you're just you're interested
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: in the fact that these things are kind of coming up.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, when this first the realization happened that you
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: were abducted, Like, what what did you feel? Did you
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: feel like a sigh of relief knowing that there was
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: something wrong and now you have some type of answer,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: or did you become more apprehensive and even maybe even
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: a little bit more, you know, like worried about it,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: or did it bother you? Like what is that process?
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Like that? It bothered me the most was all the data.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: It's in my head and I can't get to it.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: I know every damn thing that happened, but I can't
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: get to it. That's the thing out of all of it.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: I don't feel violated. I am delirious with joy that
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: it happened because it answers a lot of questions, the
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: things that I've believed peripherally before I even knew about this.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going I'm enjoying it, you know, and I'm enjoying
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: sharing it with people, and then people getting the courage
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: to read the book and they'll come out even it
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: helped at least talk to somebody who's not going to
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: rat them out and say, Betty, you know you're talking
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: a job. She just got abducted by, you know, a
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: cow to driving a tractor in a UFO.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: If you had to take a if you had to
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: take a stab at it, how like if you had
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: to put like a percentage on it or some type
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: of number on it. How many people do you think
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you're actually experiencing this or that are either blocked or
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: don't remember, or do remember and don't talk about it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: What would you think that would be?
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: Because the conservative but educated estimates are anywhere from six
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: to twelve million abductees.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: In the United States are the world.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: World, We have no idea because you know, yeah, they're
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: far more open with their data, you know, Russia and
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: China and Japan. I mean, they're they locked ess that
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: they talk about it.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Summer's around two percent of the population.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: That's not that much.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: It's a ton. It's a lot, though, I mean, but
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: if you look at it from that perspective, yes, but
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: we're talking the numbers. Did you the six million or
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: that number, did you fire out, that's a lot of people.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: That's that's the population of Maryland.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, that's that's guesstimates by people like you and
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: I and.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: Right right right, You can't really quantify it, right. But
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: at the same time, if you were to, you know,
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I asked, you know, bigfoot researchers the same thing, and
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: you'll go, well, I think in the state of Tennessee,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: there's you know, there's every bit of like you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: about four to five thousand of them. You're like, okay,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And it just it helps
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: people kind of like, uh see it, like some people
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: do this kind of want a number in front of
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: them you know, well, how big was it was that
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: because it helps them draw a picture of how why
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: spread this is or and they might be unfathomable. But
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with all the things that every day, you know, a
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: lot of it's ais crap. Now good, thank god that
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: there's you know, hopefully there's something that will come up
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: that we can filter it out and actually know what's what.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Now hopefully some technology will then offset that technology. But
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: it's coming more and more. I just had a video
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: of a friend, my girlfriend's friend, who took a picture
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: of this. It looks like it looks like, you know,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: like a meteor coming in, but you think it'd be
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: faster and it would explode in the air, but it doesn't.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: It just kind of looks like a comet coming in
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and then it does like another trajectory that goes back
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: up at an angle and disappears behind the house. We
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: just had lights come out on the beach here out
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: of the water to someone took a picture of that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: We're going to go to the beach. This we can
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you know, to relax me and my lady. And you're
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: just like, this is becoming more and more commonplay because
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I thought forever, you know, with the smartphones, you know,
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, whenever they came out that we
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: would have more of this, but it just wasn't. And
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: now all of a sudden it's more. So it makes
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: me wonder if it's being suppressed. There's another part of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: me that makes me wonder if this is some type
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: of government stuff they can kind of like just go, okay,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: now we are still in control, you know what I mean,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: because that's what they want you to have, the illusion.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Right, Yes, the government made a deal with the devil.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: And actually I just saw something all this last night.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: Watch the whole thing. Eisenhower Truman. Yeah, what trade and technology?
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: What trade are humans for technology? Cliff notes version right?
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Right? That that was that was an uh that was
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: an arcticle?
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Right Yeah. And his daughter just lives in Kansas.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Just I've been. I've actually I've actually been to Eisenhower's birthplace.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: I used to be in the army and I was
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: stationed there, so we went there one day.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: They made a deal with the devil, and so here's
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: here's the deal. Uh. Nobody believes in the UFOs and
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: even more don't believe an abduction. And if they did,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: they wouldn't say anything because it's embarrassing and they get
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: ridiculed and mocked and right, so if you say there's
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: six to twelve million, it could be considerably larger because, yeah,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: here's the veil of secrecy. The government doesn't want anybody
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to know. I'm surprised somebody didn't come in here right
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: now to shoot us, you know, and.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: When he meant that, he didn't really mean that. Guy's
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: this is you two something different?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: You know, all the stuff. People don't want to talk
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: about it. Yeah, of course not if it happened, you're
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: gonna keep it to yourself. You know, I just contacted me.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: She's telling anybody you'd be mortified because she had children, right,
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: Just do you just think of the stigma. We've made
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: it horribly uncool to be abducted. I don't think we
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: did sasquatchment.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I know you're I know
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: what you're saying that, but I don't mean that. I
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: don't mean to downplay what you're saying by we, But
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I think it's more like along the lines of, you know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: it's to me, it's a concertive effort. It's a concerted effort.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: They want you to be afraid. They want you to
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: feel alone and isolated. That's that's the whole thing nowadays,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: anyway you see what's going on in the world, they
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: want you to feel that we're completely isolating. People don't
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: talk to their neighbors anymore. It's the same thing.
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so that's the that's the big veil of secretary.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: So we'll never get an accurate number, you know. Okay,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: they are mining citizens of the planet for whatever they need.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: You know, my personal opinion is they have invented things
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: like we have to do things for us. We've lost
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: our way, we've lost the powers that we used to have.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: So if you go back there to it that that's
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: interesting Lanti. In days we used to think and materialize
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: or bring sunshine or move a cloud.
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, that YouTube's fine with that. What about
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: what about just like the construction of the pyramids? You know,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: we used able to do those things. If you speak
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: to people who have really in depth and else is about,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: you know, Sasquatch or people who have mind speak and
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: talk to these things with their mind, they will they
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: will say that they told them that we forgot that
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: we used to be the same way. Their technology is
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: in the forest, their living room, their houses, their world.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: And then when we go in there and we experience that,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you know, they're being you know, scanned, or it's kind
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: of the same thing. And I think somehow or another
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: it's all connected. However that is, we don't know, but
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: it's there.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Well, I've been told the same that, you know. Okay,
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: humans have lost their way, you know, you know I
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: have had. And I'm writing a book right now on
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: the Sasquatch thing. It's called We Are Not Dumb as okay.
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: But it's funny, it's a it's a it's tongue in
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: cheek because it's about us.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: And the subtitle is I think therefore, I am, mmmm.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: That's a little. The whole thing is, I think therefore,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: I am who said that that's a that's a that's.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: A card, gag cards, okay, sixteen hundreds is a mathematician,
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: the philosopher. I think therefore, I am very act of thinking.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: You exist. There cannot be a thought without you existing.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Ooh ooh.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: I like that when people talk about it's just a
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: dummy they do in these woods thirty years about it.
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: If there's one out here, I've seen it and I
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: ain't seen something don't exist, screw that.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Crap, right well, buddy, or if you have seen it,
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: or on the other hand, it's people who have seen
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: it and haven't seen that aspect of them because they're
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: not willing to show them that. So that's the way
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: they see it. So for them it is just that.
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: And there's people who only see the magic part, and
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: there's people who have seen both. And then they like
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: to fight because once again we are broken as a species,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, instead of like going, well,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: maybe you've seen it different than I did.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: You know, I've seen an experience so much of the
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: quantum and metaphysical, the sasquatch people, it's just too yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: you know. I've I've led four expeditions from the AFRRO.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: The very first when I led one, just vanished in
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: front of my eyes when I'm looking at it through
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: a thermal camerage, just right. And I was in the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: midst of a bunch of idiotic goobers who were ape
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: only and they roasted people.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I love that word. I love that words so much.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've copyright you got t end Yeah, if you
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: got twenty bunch, Thank you, sir. I was seriously I
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: was being groomed, uh brought up in it because I
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: just joined the afroh.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, and.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I was asked to replace the guy who has been
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: leading expeditions for a long time here, and so I did.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: And you know, they were hateful and mean and nasty
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: toward anybody that believed anything other than just a dumb
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: at right even exist.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: But what is that? What is that? It's like, it's
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: human nature, I think, because you have that. You know,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: when you're musicians, there's bands that you know, you guys
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: hate together and there's bands that you guys love together.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: And it's the same thing comedians too. We hate that
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: guy he took the fast track, or she's only there
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: because she's a woman, instead of just being funny. And
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: it's just human nature to picking tribal, very tribal. It's
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: just disgusting instead of actually looking at it objectively and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: coming to a conclusion based upon the evidence that you
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: have in front of you. Drives me nuts.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have if you do another Sash Bought show
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: or two, you'll need to do several, but.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: I sure we'll do that next time. Around. I'll have
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you on again for sure, you know.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: But I'm going to get back to the whole thing. Absolutely,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: absolutely basis of study with uh Sasquatch has been habituation,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: people living with them on their property for decades. Generations.
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, And the kids and the grandkids, the great grandkids
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: all grow up knowing, seeing, believing, interacting, and it's.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Like it's Tom Tom Cantrell man. I had Tom Cantroll Man.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: It's just like, yeah, and you know, people just go
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: and you know, I've been laughed at and you know,
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: run off. I don't care because this is the you know,
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: these people are real people and blah blah blah blah blah.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: But that's a whole other thing, because you know, we'll
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: be talking till three in the morning. Sure, But the
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: UFO thing. So when I saw my parents.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: Wasn't your father in the bedad?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: I leaned in to take a look, and I caught
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: something out of the corner my left eye, and there
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: was an alien in it. And as I was sticking
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: my head in real slow, little nine year old Carter
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: trying to look around and see this alien's going He's
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: got this look on his face. He's trying to get
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: further and further back, and he said, he hits the wall,
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: and he hits the door to the bathroom. It's closed.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: He screwed. And he looks at him and just kind
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: of goes just give him the stupid grin and blink
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: like you got me. And it was just the funniest thing.
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: But it had the I was describing the eggplant shape thing,
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: and it seemed like maybe it was a life support system,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: or maybe it's part of how he ran the robe
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: or whatever he was going to be doing to me.
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I saw that, you know, And
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: then she brought me back, so I got to see.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: So I verified that they were clicking my parents off
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: and probably my brother because my brother was on the
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: lower bunk. They've taken me Saturn. I've been to Machu Picha. Oh,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: here's one. This is really cool. I just found this
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: out a few weeks ago. A couple of months ago.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: Maybe I was taken to Machu Pichu and I was
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: taking down these long, long, spiral stairs. It's almost like
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: you were in a turret or something. It was really
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: you were always walking around a circle, you know. The
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: stairs were all triangular. You know that up to the
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Asasceles Triangle with Okay, anyway, so you're walking around in
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a circle going down, and when we got to the bottom,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: there was like this big giant, weathered stone had all
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: the body oils of thousands of years of people going.
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: And what I was told is that I had to
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: touch put my hands on there to connect with the
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: spirits to make sure I was worthy or ready or
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: clean of spirit I'm.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: Not or something right.
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: It was something that was like you do not pass
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: go unless you touched the stone. So I put my
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: hand on there. You know, really just oily and nasty looking,
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: but it's really fascinating at the same time. So anyway,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: I did that. Okay, Machu peach you after because I
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: just found this out. Was discovered that part beneath Machi
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Picha was discovered between two thousand ten twenty twelve.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Says the reason I was regressed in.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Two thousand and four and I saw it, nobody knew it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: It also leads lends credence to what they just found
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: underneath the pyramids in Giza. Yeah, whatever the hell that is.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, a electrical plan.
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: And whoah oh yeah, we'll find out but.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: I had, I had seen this, and the whole time,
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: although it was a fascinating thing to me to remember,
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: it didn't mean all that much. It didn't enlighten me
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: in any way until I realized that I thought the
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: whole world knew about this. Nobody it was just discovered
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: that there was this place underneath. The guy who discovered
• 49:44
  Speaker 2: the Englishman it was with the late eighteen hundreds, early
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: nineteen hundreds, I can't remember he discovered, but he only
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: explored the actual buildings, the actual structures you know that
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: you tourists see, or what he could see. He had
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: no idea. It had been rumored for a long time,
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: but just rumored. And then somebody got the money together
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: or figured it out and went down and I think
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: it was an Englishman and a Brazilian that but little
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, you know, which is not an exciting thing,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: But you go down there ten years before they discovered,
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Jesus, you know, it's just mind boggling.
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Have you seen pictures of it? Have they taken pictures
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: of it? The discussion?
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think I have not seen any pictures, you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: but I remember this is this has been like news
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: to me in the last couple of months.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like, okay, I would love to
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: know it. Like you compare your memories to what the
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: actual you know, what the.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: Well, Remember it was the stairway. It was dark but
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: somehow lit Okay, it was lit up bright. Yeah, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: so I remember that. But I just remember just keep
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: going down the stairs and each regression and said, we'll
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: just keep going. I said, where's the end? So I
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: don't know, I'm getting there, you know. And then finally
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: we get there to where the stone is. You got
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: to put your hand on it. So I did that
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: through a couple of regressions, two or three times.
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: So, but then it suddenly had meeting when I found
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: out that, yeah, it was unknown until ten years ago.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: So you're still you're still piecing all this together. I mean,
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: you're just feel like you're still on the tip of
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: the iceberg.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: No, that's what I say. But the whole thing, you know,
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: like I'm embracing it. I'm not like yell shock, I'm not,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: you know. And maybe sometimes I've done sasquat for search forever.
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: You know, I've had one hundred reports published to be
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: a furrow. I've been out in the field. I've done
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: this stuff, so it's not like I'm a stranger to weirdness,
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: you know, in my life and you know out in
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: the field. You know, my wife was what we have
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: to I'll do that on another show. But you know
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: it was ten toal eighth, two thousand, twenty two, maybe
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: twenty three, I don't remember. Uh, I want to talk
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: the morning to hear at the house or if and
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: iron bed. And suddenly I feel hands under my butt
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: doing this. I'm going, oh, honey, move out sudden, you know, Okay,
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, whoa, okay, what's going on here? This is?
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: But then I feel two more hands along with the
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: two under my butt, under my thighs, and then I
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: feel two more hands a total of six under my kneecaps,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: and I'd be lifted up and i sleep on the
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: right hand side of the bed, so I'm being carried
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: off into the bed. Right about that time, that's all
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: going on, and I realized my wife is not getting frisky.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: She's gonna go peek. She wakes up and goes to
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. Now the room is lit up somehow. I mean,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: it's a pitch black. We have a night light into
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: the bathroom. That's the only beacon we have, so I
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: the room is bright, I can see your walking through.
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: It's like I'm looking through dirty window. It's dirty around
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: the edges, but it's clear.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Got Yeah, it's lit.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: So I'm looking at this and I'm going I'm talking
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: to her. She's not responding. It's like I'm not here,
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: and so in meantime, I'm going to the I'm going
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: off the edge of the bed. I'm going. Now, I'm
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: concerned because who's left hands or at least five feet
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: the arms are five feet long, because they're all the
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: way over on the side where my wife was sleeping.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: So I'm not going, Okay, what's in here? What what's
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: grabbing me? You know? And about that time I'm thinking
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: all this, she flushes the toilet and whoever it was,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: they just dropped me and left me on the bed,
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: and she comes out. I go, did you not hear me?
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I would freaking out and said, did you not hear me?
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I was talking to you?
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: No, No, what you mean?
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: I I tell her what happened? Did you see what
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: was going on? Who was here? So you're just loocid
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: dreaming that there was nothing here. I kind out went
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: to the bathroom. I said, well, the room was bright.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: How could you miss it? You're just dreaming.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: My steventh regression confirmed that they were visiting.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: My house.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: And we keep a document it's called Strangeness at Home.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: We've had so much weird stuff going on, really basic. Uh,
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: since I may contact with a sasquatch plan. Oh wow,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: but that's when I started this list. But there's all
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: kinds of weird stuff, you know, And so that's why
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I'll think you'll find my sas squad shows pretty amazing.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're definitely gonna have to come back. Could you
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: do me a favor for your up out of here? Carter,
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: tell me the name of your book and where people
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: can find him.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: My friend, it's Carter does Dallas. No, I'm just kidio.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: That's a reference, all the reference.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is baptized by abduction. I am
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: self published. I sell them out of my half twenty
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: two bucks plus a little shipping. Uh. I have eight regressions.
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I recorded them all. They're all to set high tech stuff,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: you know, and I transcribed in with a little machine
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: that transcribes them into a word processing thing, and then
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I wrote the book, it's spit it out
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: that I would correct everything and put them the right
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: But these are all my regressions, you know, all eight.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: And how did they How did they contact you by
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: email or did they contact you through emails?
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: The best way? S Q Explorer at gmail dot com.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: Real easy, I'm not I'm not real creative Sasquatch Explorer,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's easy to remember x Q Explorer even
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: I can remember.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: That my friends hanging on the wall back there.
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, there's It's been a pleasure. Man. I love
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: your personality. It's very uh, you know, it's addictive. I
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: uh too easy to get along with. You're very lucid
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: in the way you're talking about. What you're talking about.
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: Shocking because the gummy just oh, okay.
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, you mean you mean regular gummy bearers. Yeah, man,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: you know all that sugar.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that, But I am I'm so enamored with
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: what I do, and I'm so privileged to have been
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: able to get with these witnesses who have you know,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: lived with these Sashquatch people for decades and have all
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: these stories, and I'm and the abduction. It almost sounds
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: like bs oh, your book sales a little slow, So
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: now you were inducted by aliens, you know. I mean,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: if you know anything about the sash Quatch community, it's
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: cutthroat as hell.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: It's yeah, you know, it's a lot of red carpeted
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't. I don't enjoy that
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: so much myself, honestly, I really don't. You know. There's
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who you know, who have podcasts,
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: who only go after like the most famous, you know,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: like the people who are just up at the top
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: of the heap and hopefully they get lucky. And me,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I just want to build a community and a place
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: where people can come and just talk about whatever it
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: is they want to talk about.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well you're you're you're a bottom feeder. You found me.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: This is where I live.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: With the headlights, you know. Yeah. But I like being
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: down here with you, man. I like being down here.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Pressure good banter, you know. If I clip my hands twice,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: the school.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Off, okay, that's all good man, you know.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: And you know, I'm scoffed at ridicule all the time
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: because of my beliefs, and I you know, that just
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: gives me more power, you know, because the people who
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: don't believe in are afraid. They're the ones that scoffish. Yeah,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: there's a.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Lot of things like that. People. There's people who go
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: to like who don't believe and say the paranormal and
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: then they'll go with you know, some people who do
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: paranormal investigations and they'll go to a famous you know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: like location, some jail or some sanitarium and they'll go
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: in there and they'll go and they believe all of
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you're it's like Mike Tyson said, you know,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: you have a plan until you get punched in the face.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: It's kind of like that. It's kind of like that
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: to put some type of relevance on what you're trying
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to say here. So I understand, man, I understand. But
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: you just keep doing what you're doing and uh, you know,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: if the truth will come out eventually and we'll be there,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: you know, whatever it is, man, it's that's what we're
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: here to do.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Man, it's around the corner.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, buddy, So Carter, I really appreciate you
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: coming on, and I'll definitely have you back on to
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: talk about you know your bf R O days and
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: all that. How's that sound?
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh there's more blues. I mean, there's more
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: of you know, the you know, the my stuff. Some
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: of my stuff is just mind blowing.
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, oh, I believe it's just kind of a book.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like, yeah, we're touching around the edges. That's
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  Speaker 1: what you have to do when you're introducing yourself to
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  Speaker 1: somebody like myself. You have to kind of kind of
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  Speaker 1: have to work your way into it. And that's that's
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing. You know what you're doing, and that's
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