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Dr Jan Halper Hayes, the Patriot shrink · Cultural Wars | America Out Loud News

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  Joining me in today's special discussion is my dear friend Dr.
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  Jan Helper Hayes.
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  She is known as the Patriot Shrink and has entered into the political lion's den through the years.
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  She is a best-selling author and consultant, known for her work in political and corporate psychology.
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  Dr.
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  Jan served as a consultant to President Trump's transition team and was the chair of Republicans overseas from 2013 to 2016, providing insights into political leadership and behavior.
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  And additionally, Dr.
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  Jan is a commentator on various media platforms where she shares her psychological insights on political figures.
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  Welcome, Dr.
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  Jan.
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  I'm so honored to have you.
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  Oh, Susan, that I want a copy of that summary of me.
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  That's the best.
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  Thank you so much.
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  Well deserved after all your years of hard work.
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  Well, Dr.
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  Jan, for our America Out Loud family, uh, could you please give a brief overview and on your background and um then we'll take it from there.
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  Um, whenever I'm asked that question, I have two options.
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  One, I can go through my resume or my CV and list things with uh titles and that doesn't for me, that doesn't speak to my heart.
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  What I have been able to do is never have to give up being a person who feels who's also in business, who's also a strategist, and um that has enabled me to be able to be honest because I have always said to my clients, emotional honesty is the way to freedom, but emotions have components, they're built on thoughts and feelings and actions, and that has always been the way that I have been able to hold boards and CEOs and top executives accountable to get them to see the three components because every action has an intention and a motivation.
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  And so, yes, um, I was CEO of one of the first streaming media companies that was sold to Sony.
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  Um, at that point of the internet, it was like uh the radio, so you could be in Chicago and it would be uh WOR show on blah blah blah, and then you could land in LA and it would be W or KTLA and it'd be the same show.
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  So we created shows.
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  We did one because one of the biggest communities was wrestling.
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  So we called our host Half Nelson.
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  Um we did another one uh for the gay community, and it was called Homo Improvement.
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  Um those are two examples of how I have been able to think out of the box and do things out of the box, but probably one of my most um satisfying uh roles was when my book came out, and which is called Quiet Desperation, The Truth About Successful Men, and I felt it hadn't really been marketed properly.
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  And so when the paperback was coming out, I went to Harry Hoffman, who was CEO of Walden Books at the time, and I said, You've got one problem, which is you only stock the stores with two or three copies of a book, but what people don't know is your distribution centers could have other copies the next day.
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  So when I'm on my 17 media city media tour, would you stalk the books?
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  Well, long story short, is he hired me to consult?
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  And so I was brought in to work with all the district managers, and we created a looseite platform with a pyramid, and there was a hole in the platform, and I had Harry Hoffman talk to all the district managers, and the opening was to take that pyramid and turn it upside down and to tell the district managers that they were really the top of the pyramid because they were closest to the customer.
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  Well, we gave them freedom, we gave them a small budget, and that was when you started to see um urns with cider, you started to see chairs from uh thrift stores, and ultimately it became so successful.
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  That is what brought coffee shops and magazines and everything else into Walden Books, which became borders.
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  And that is because I have an incredible belief that the people on the front line know better than the executives.
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  And I've always been able to act upon that and convince executives to listen to the people who are closest to the customer.
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  Well, that's like President Trump.
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  So how did you get to know about the military sting operation, which I want to get into that because we have some things that are getting ready to take off the history of the military sting operation?
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  I got to know it more from the uh financial and intelligence side, because if we go all the way back to even before 1871, when we lost our constitution, um, and having lived in the UK for the past 24 years, um, and being a consultant at one of the top for uh accounting and consulting firms, um, very much I had been on the inside of decisions that were being made.
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  I mean, I at times look back and think, oh goodness, I really should feel guilty about having been part of this or that.
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  But it is the way in which the financial and trade has been controlled by the city of London, which is the deep state.
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  The cabal.
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  And what people might not be aware of is that during our war, um, Britain lied.
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  Um, they claimed to be on the side of the North, but they were feeding money uh to the South, and that is how we ended up losing our Constitution because when it came out, it was maneuvered for us to go to the international court to resolve this instead of using our 14th Amendment.
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  So the long and short of it was they put us in debt, and we have been beholden financially to the city of London.
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  Now, what people don't necessarily understand is that the city of London is a sovereign nation.
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  If the king or when the queen was alive, wanted to enter, they had to ask permission from the Lord Mayor to enter this one mile square that controls the financial and the intelligence, and has controlled the monarchies of the European nations since 1689.
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  So I became fascinated by that and started tracking it in terms of how it was affecting business today, how it was impacting the way in which military decisions were being made, because if I'm consulting with a military company, um, then I wanted to know what the involvement and the connection and why certain decisions were being made that maybe weren't for the best interest of the people, but seemed to be serving something higher up, and when I say higher up, it's definitely not spiritual higher up, but it is going to the people that have wanted to have control.
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  So then I became fascinated by this new world order and looking into that and who was involved in it and what companies were part of it and who were the people, and that is how I ended up realizing, and you said 60 years ago, we're now at 65 years ago.
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  Um, and what I haven't been able to track, and maybe you know, Susan, is that when we say that it was a military plan 60 plus years ago, how did they become aware of it to put that plan in place and educate President Kennedy so that he could act on it?
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  Because who were the people that had to be working on it 10, 20 years beforehand to get those people ready to educate President Kennedy to be able to take action, which he definitely had wanted to do and lost his life because of that intention.
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  Yeah, I I honestly don't know, but I may have friends that know, and I've often wondered that very question.
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  And we should be grateful for whoever they are, and if we never know who they are, at least we know that for a plan to have existed 65 years ago, there were people before that who put it together and convince the right people that something needed to be done.
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  And I I call Kennedy the starter, and Trump, I call him the finisher, but I I have my concerns because as you know, I have my concerns about the people that have been elected and their intentions and what they're doing, and I think it's really important that we are so cognizant of the manipulations that go on right now, and that we we never stop searching for the truth, never because each action is telling us something, you know, just recently um the uh Russians have taken sides with Trump against the British Empire with Trump going after the BBC.
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  Um they are totally supporting him because the Brits go back to the Imperial War, and they have been doing the British intelligence and industrial complex is trying to sabotage Trump.
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  We've got Russia 2.0 going on right now, and they started the whole Epstein thing.
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  Um could I just give my short little take on Epstein?
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  Yeah, okay.
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  Okay, I want people to be very realistic about this.
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  Now Epstein, a very smart, intelligent Jewish boy in New York City, is hired without a degree to teach at the Dalton School.
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  The Dalton School is where the liberal elites have been sending their children.
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  Who was the head master at the Dalton School?
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  But no other than our former attorney general, Bill Barr's father, who had been an original member of the precursor to the CIA.
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  So Jeffrey Epstein is now making all of these comment uh contacts.
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  He's then hired by the head of Bear Stearns.
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  Now, also keep in mind Bear Stearns in 2008 was the first financial institution to totally collapse.
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  But he was hired, and Jeffrey Epstein was then trained in how to help people hide their money in the two British tax-free aisles, Jersey and Guernsey.
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  And then why did the Rockefellers put him on the Council for Foreign Relations?
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  If you go back and look at that, there is not a Jewish person who is uneducated, who doesn't have all the liberal pedigree that is put on the Council of Foreign Relations.
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  Rockefeller made him a trustee of the Rockefeller University.
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  So this man, in my opinion, has been a pawn for the British intelligence, and what validates that is when Alex Azar in 2016 was being um vetted for the Trump administration, he admitted that in 2008, when he handled the prosecution of Epstein, that the intelligence community had told him that he Epstein was their pawn, that he needed to go light on him.
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  So now you've got Gislaine Maxwell, who is involved with Epstein romantically, business-wise, terrible doing terrible things, but also her father has been outed as like a triple agent, probably, um, known for Massad connections and British intelligence connections.
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  So my belief has been that Epstein was always the pawn, he was never the direct blackmailer, but he was the pawn to do the black mailing for the Council of Foreign Relations and the power of the 300, and then to assume that these Epstein files contain a lot of information.
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  I am sure they do, but the CIA, because that's who was handling him, and MI6, who might have been handling him, they don't take notes and give it to the FBI or the Department of Justice.
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  Those are not hidden well away as they have manipulated him.
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  But at the same time, while people are saying, who are the bad guys, arrest them, expose them?
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  What we also have to keep in mind is that there are those people could impact our national security.
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  There are other factors, and that's why this has been a very delicate dance for Trump to be able to do.
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  Now we'll pick up where we left off with the Epstein.
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  So my question, I'm I'm curious about PM Bondi.
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  What say you regarding the way she's handling these things?
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  Um my take on Trump, Bondi, uh, Bon Gino and Patel all making the declaration that they wanted to expose the Epstein files was completely genuine, completely genuine.
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  We need to have a bit of compassion for people that are in the job, that are aware and have to deal with many factors that will never be known to us, and they have had to juggle things.
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  I think the fact that they did not uncover as much as they had hoped to uncover, then that has brought the disappointment to the public, but I am sure that they are just as disappointed about it because they thought that there was more there.
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  Well, so Dr.
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  Jan, where do we go from here?
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  Um, as far as what you see coming and the deal.
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  Well uh if if we sort of to bring some closure on the Epstein, but to move it forward as well, is that um let's the Epstein files exploded at a time when Netanyahu was coming to the country, but also what bill was being passed at that time, and it was the genius act.
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  What the genius act is to create the US as a sovereign financial nation.
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  So the reason that the British intelligence brought and triggered the Epstein stuff to come out into the media was because they feel incredibly threatened about what Trump is trying to do.
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  He is determined to have us cut all ties.
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  He's severing day by day ties with the deep state cabal, which means the financial control over every human being.
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  And so, where do I see us going forward?
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  One is that if we keep on making the Epstein files symbolic instead of realizing, and I I really want to speak more to the House than to the Senate, is that um what we need to look at is Trump's executive order on human and child trafficking and why it's so important to the Anans and the MAGA community of bringing justice was because when we lost the 2020 election, the way in which to channel our caring was save the children, and Congress does not seem to understand that that has been the driving force of how we coped with losing the 2020 election.
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  Now, of course, I I'm not going to go into it because that'll take us into a totally different place.
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  We know that it was fraud, but let's just call it the loss for the moment.
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  And so what we really need to be doing forward is for more and more people to be able to find ways to not only speak out, but while General Flynn said go local.
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  And there are we need 38 states and 34 states have already filed um for it, they would call it um a con uh uh conference of convention.
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  And that is when we the people could either push for term limits, a balanced balanced budget, but I also know from behind the scenes that there is still a lot of investigation going into exposing what was behind the 2020 election.
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  That has got to be resolved before we move on.
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  And that I think I think the Trump card, the Trump card if our Congress doesn't get their act together, is the Brunson lawsuit, because that lawsuit has not been adjudicated, but it is still sitting with the Supreme Court.
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  So the more we are vocal, and I think MAGA getting so upset about the Epstein files, sent a real message to our politicians that we're not going to be silent over issues, and we need to stay alert, aware, and speak out and educate other people.
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  Well, Dr.
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  Jen, uh what say you with all the arrests taking place of high-level people in government corporations?
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  Do you think that we'll see that soon?
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  I um, you know, it's it's been going on, I think since 2018 or 2019.
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  There have been ships off of where the Titanic uh had launched Southampton in the Mediterranean in Australia, um, off of Japan, where our JAG officers have been adjudicating.
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  Now, you probably could tell the people this better than anyone else, that when Pete Heggseth called in the 800 generals, monkey works after that uh showed that there were many flights going to Gitmo.
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  Is that information correct?
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  Yes, it is.
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  Oh, yeah, there were many, many arrests.
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  Okay, so um, we might not see it, and it might uh, you know, Trump's Trump spiritual advisor was just arrested for having sex with a 12-year-old.
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  See, the media doesn't cover that.
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  It's those of us who stay on top of these things, see these, and you have to see it as signs and movement, slow movement, because it is chipping away.
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  There is so much debris, so much corruption to get through that is why I tell people you have to have patience.
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  You absolutely have to have patience.
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  You can't make assumptions, and you can't come to conclusions because one thing that you wanted to happen hasn't happened because it might be happening behind that screen that hasn't become transparent yet.
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  Oh, indeed.
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  There's there's so much going on.
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  And they really um the Trump administration really uh tries hard to be um cognizant of the people's responses, otherwise we're gonna have a huge civil war and a revolutionary revolutionary war going on in every city.
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  If people really knew what was going on with these officials, we've seen it through the school boards and the churches and you know, and I've driven by little country towns that have the hugest churches, and you know, I mean, it's critical thinking.
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  It shows you, you know, these are migrant fields, let's say plant city in Florida here.
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  There's a couple major churches, and you know two plus two equals four, and you can tell involvement, right?
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  They just went into a temple in New York City and they started pulling soil child beds out of the walls.
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  Ugh.
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  Yeah, I mean, see, there's uh what kills me is that these things have come out in the open, but why has our society made whistleblowers the bad people?
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  And why are they called whistleblowers as opposed to truth tellers?
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  And why do people get punished for telling the truth?
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  Those are things as a psychologist that have to change within our cultural norms.
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  Well, exactly, Dr.
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  Jan, and I I want to stress on this way I'm thinking about it because I was in conversation with a couple people you and I both know.
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  Um Gold Star Mother Tina Peters is in prison in Colorado.
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  Why?
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  President Trump, if you're listening to this, we need to get that woman out of there.
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  She suffered the loss of her son, and and she doesn't need to be put through purgatory for doing uh an American job that the naysayers and and these demons are trying to punish her for it's against the constitutional right, her constitutional rights.
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  We have to get her out, and I'm calling for justice for my dear sister, Gold Star Mother, Tina Peters.
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  Well, I'm with you, and you know, uh Torre had filed an amicus brief, and um Tina Peters lawyers didn't want it submitted, and the judge allowed for it to be submitted, and so the next question is given the judge accepted that amicus brief, why are things still moving so slowly in releasing Tina Peters?
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  Why is she being used as a symbolic pawn for the left?
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  That's my question.
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  Well her health is very poor, and they need to help this woman, and so that's why I'm a voice for a lot of these mothers who are in so grief-stricken in pain, and uh they can't, they don't have a voice or the veteran, you know, they lost it on a battlefield.
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  Well, my son lost his voice on a battlefield, it was redacted, and that's why I am here now with America out loud, standing tall and proud, and I am that voice, and I speak truth, and so does our network, and we're going to make sure that the average American is educated properly because you will not get the news that you and I know we're in the trenches, we know people that are literally in these fights, and you won't get this news on Fox News, uh any of the other channels.
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  And so perhaps what, and I don't have the answer to this question I'm going to raise because your comment just made me think about it.
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  Um, what are the other signs that could satisfy us besides us wanting to see arrests?
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  Because part of the problem that's stuck in our mind is that prior to the 2020 inauguration, we had certain people who were like the top podcasters or at the time regarded as the truthers telling us that there would be arrests then.
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  And I remember walking watching Roy Blunt walk out of that inauguration, and there was a military person standing there, and I was waiting for the handcuffs to come out, and of course the handcuffs never came out, and so then how many of us like myself went into a deep depression for two years?
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  And then we had the midterms, and I thought, okay, the arrests are gonna happen, and oh boy, hopium hit me again because we were told that would happen, and we were expecting to see it, and we have got to be able, and again, I said I don't have the answer for this, but I'm raising the question for all of us what are the other signs that can give us peace in the moment.
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  Well, that's what we need.
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  Exactly.
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  Uh my thoughts too, because I receive so many phone calls a day.
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  I'm kind of like the cheerleader back here, trying to keep maybe a hundred people happy and to just keep on going.
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  But there's days that you know, I take a hit and I really have to talk to God harder than usual.
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  Yep.
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  And welcome back to America Out Loud.
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  I'm your host scope Sir Mother, Susan Price, and my special guest today is Dr.
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  Jan Helper Hayes.
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  Welcome, Dr.
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  Jan.
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  Susan, glad to be back.
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  Another thought that I had, because you were talking about um the community that you take care of and that you speak to.
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  And I would imagine that there are many people listening that aren't a gold star mother or father that don't have a child who was in the military.
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  But what I also want them to hear is that you have been speaking out for 16 years.
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  It is the strength in which that you're sharing with people that they don't have to have the exact situation that you went through to be able to understand that they have their own strength that can relate to the strength that you're sharing with people.
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  But so we know that there's also things going on behind the scenes financially too, and that there's um a couple hundred countries involved in a global financial reset.
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  Um, did you have any information on that?
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  Well, uh Rob Cunningham is really my mentor on understanding that in detail.
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  Um and I I'm always very hesitant to comment on something in which I'm not really an expert, or I have not spent years and years researching and know, um, because I don't want to mislead anyone.
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  I can say personally, I have DNA and Vietnamese dong.
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  Um I haven't done as much in the gold and silver, but if we think about what the aspect that I do know, which is to make us a sovereign nation.
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  Which I do know that we lost our gold standard in 1913 because at the time that administration was a pawn of the British of the cabal of the city of London.
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  So what I would tell people is you need to do your research and to understand that and to know that the fight to bring us back to the gold standard and make us financially independent is really exactly what Trump has had his administration working on from Trump 1.0.
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  I mean, when he put the Treasury the Federal Reserve under the Treasury Department in 2018, that was the beginning of weakening the Federal Reserve, which the Federal Reserve has been not part of the U.S.
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  government for people that don't understand that.
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  Um the City of London, the cabal.
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  Well, Dr.
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  Jan, this is a crazy question because I know a lot of our listeners will say, what is Susan talking about?
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  But do you believe that JFK Jr.
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  is so life?
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  You know, honestly, I have no idea.
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  And I have been asked that question, and this is my answer.
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  If I knew that answer, would it change anything for my life today?
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  So, how important is it for me to know that?
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  Um I would love to know the truth.
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  I find it interesting, and I believe when there's smoke, there's fire.
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  They talk about Diana.
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  Um, but how is that going to impact and make things better today?
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  And I, since my focus is on making sure that people have the right mindset, that they have an emotional equilibrium to cope with everything that's thrown at us.
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  Um I don't really have an answer.
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  It's not that I don't care.
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  I would love to know, but I don't have any thoughts about it.
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  Dr.
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  Jen, what do you see happening in the days and weeks ahead before the end of this year?
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  Oh that's a very good question, Susan.
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  Um I guess one of my questions is what is on the table for our Congress, our House and our Senate to be dealing with.
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  Um I think that I think Ted, I have no respect for Ted Cruz, no respect.
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  And if anyone wants to understand how a snively manipulative, passive aggressive person um communicates, listen to the interview with Tucker Carlson, and if you want to know how to deal with that kind of person, really listen to that interview because Tucker Carlson dealt with it so incredibly well.
• 44:01
  And Ted Cruz, for example, is talking about running for president in 2028, but then after the most recent election, um, he has been an alarmist and saying that the Republicans better pay attention and they better be on top of things.
• 44:22
  And um, I would say one ignore all of that because one, it was this election was no precursor to the 2026 midterms, it was done in very blue states or kind of a purple state.
• 44:44
  Mandami, the issue behind all that is called affordability.
• 44:50
  Our politicians don't think about the everyday life, and that's what Mandami, Mandami, I think that's how you say his name.
• 45:01
  That's what he appealed to.
• 45:04
  Um, you know, I uh because I've just moved here and I'm having to buy some furniture and do things, and I'm on these websites, and I keep getting offers that I can finance something for $28 a month or by Klarna or some of these other things.
• 45:28
  So of course I always have to investigate, you know what?
• 45:32
  It's another bit of a pawn to put our young people into debt because they can even use this Klarna and these other companies to order a pizza and not have to pay for the delivery of the pizza.
• 45:53
  This is another form of slave debt, and so I'm saying look at the things that are trying to fight against us and be aware of them and work hard to support the positive things that are going on to do the right thing for others.
• 46:18
  We really need to bring community back.
• 46:22
  Um, Dr.
• 46:23
  Jan, would you tell us about your book, Quiet Desperation?
• 46:28
  Sure.
• 46:29
  Um it it came about because I was consulting, I was consulting at Ralston Purina actually, and um I was working um on my master's moving into working on my doctorate, and I made a recommendation that a certain executive be removed from the position and someone else put in.
• 46:58
  And I watched a lot of the organizational problems disappear.
• 47:03
  So it made me really question what value as a corporate psychologist did I really have if it was that simple to get one bad apple out and put a good apple in.
• 47:20
  So I decided I asked 56 clients if they wanted free counseling for a year.
• 47:28
  40, 43 said yes, 10 months into it, we agreed we had to go another year, and in between, I also interviewed 4,126 men.
• 47:41
  Now, why men?
• 47:43
  Well, one at the time, there was an author, John Malloy, who wrote a book uh dress for success for women, which was telling women that they should be just like men.
• 47:55
  Meanwhile, I've got men telling me that um they are disillusioned by what it meant to be a corporate man and waiting for that gold watch after 25 years, or how they had to sell their soul to be able to succeed.
• 48:15
  So there are three sections to my book.
• 48:18
  The first one, rules of the game, sell your soul, the second, which deals with uh trust between your intuition versus being rational, logical, and objective, and the last section, which is called Wives, Lovers, Mistresses, dot dot dot, and women.
• 48:40
  Um at the time, uh 83% of the men that I had interviewed had either a one-night stand, a an affair, or even a mistress, and how I define that, the mistress is the power one because they're supporting her.
• 49:00
  Um I was looking into that because so many men were having an incredibly hard time with women coming into the workplace, and I couldn't deal with those all those aspects on a female side, but I could definitely deal with it in getting men to think differently about their expectations.
• 49:32
  In terms of the intuition versus logic, when I had been talking about that, there was someone I was doing a workshop at the uh Georgia University, and um somebody tried to mock me that night at the dinner, one of the executives caught up, he got on a microphone, and um he said, Jack Durliat, your internist has called.
• 50:01
  He said that you were having an intuitive reaction to Dr.
• 50:07
  Jan Halper talking about trusting your intuition.
• 50:13
  It was not indigestion.
• 50:16
  That was a sign of men saying that they understood that feelings had a role in things.
• 50:24
  And then when it came to the rules of the game, sell your soul, so many men were saying, if I didn't have a family, I would work all the time, I'd sail a boat around the world, I go fry hamburgers or whatever.
• 50:40
  Um, which gave me an incredible understanding to the responsibilities that men are raised with.
• 51:17
  I mean, I interviewed men like Steve Jobs and Robert Mondavi and Bob Crandall, who had been CEO of American Airlines and uh Le Ayakoka.
• 51:29
  Uh lots and lots of people who were dictating how the corporate world was to be and seeing the changes.
• 51:43
  And it was really a great experience for me to see men own their feelings and want to grow.
• 51:52
  And that's why I think the whole thing of masculine toxicity was really a cultural psyop to uh castrate them.
• 52:06
  And Dr.
• 52:07
  Jan, what what words would you leave are the American people and those abroad with this global thing that's happening and about to happen?
• 52:19
  Well, what I would leave them with is that the only people that can save you or educate you are you yourself, and at the beginning, I said emotional honesty is the way to freedom, and what's important is for you to check in with yourself every single day.
• 52:49
  If someone, if you have a sense of things, and someone is telling you you're wrong, you need to trust your sense.
• 52:59
  If someone is telling you that this is the right way to go, and it feels wrong to you, you need to trust your interpretation, your sense of it.
• 53:13
  Because I just think that the only way we can cope with all of it is if we have clarity with ourselves.
• 53:23
  Oh, I I definitely agree uh with that, and I'm very spiritual and um have that extra sense, and I I use my heart uh over my head to because you get in trouble sometimes just with the head.
• 53:43
  You have to use your heart and feel your way through a lot of it, and and knowing that, how do you feel President Trump will fare in the last remaining years of his administration?
• 53:57
  Um I worry about it every day because when you think about our Senate that works two and a half days a week, that it took the death of Charlie Kirk to get them to deal with the nominees that had yet to be confirmed.
• 54:20
  I mean, why did it have to take that to get them to have a backbone and not succumb to all the obstacles that were put in the way?
• 54:34
  Um, I worry every single day about the saboteurs that are going on, and um what I do have faith in that I think this has been the strongest cabinet that has been put in place because we haven't lost one person in the cabinet, no one's been exposed for anything, they are strong.
• 55:04
  What are we gonna do to hold our politicians accountable because they while Trump runs like a cheetah, they're sloths and sloths are the lowest, slowest animals in the kingdom, and we have to light a fire every day and hold our politicians accountable.
• 55:31
  Um I have to get my courage up to do my own little video recording of calling them out, and I'm working on it, and I'm building my courage to do this in the hopes that it will resonate.
• 55:52
  Um it might get the message to our um politicians, but I'm praying to God to give me the strength to put it together.
• 56:03
  Well, perfect.
• 56:04
  And lastly, uh Dr.
• 56:07
  Jan, where can our listeners find you?
• 56:12
  Uh right now, the main place is on X, um, Biz Shrink, B-I-Z, underscore shrink.
• 56:24
  Now, there are about 12 fake accounts.
• 56:28
  There's no numbers connected to it, it's only one underscore, and um that is where I am currently um very active.
• 56:41
  My Dr.
• 56:44
  Jan at Substack.com is where you'll see some of my writing, and I'm promise I'm gonna get back to that now that I've made this move.
• 56:56
  Perfect.
• 56:57
  Well, I want to thank you, my friend, for coming on the show, and I just want our listeners to know that as much as I can bring you on, I'm going to, and I want to remind our audience.
• 57:12
  Freedom is not free.
• 57:14
  I am reminded by the quote of Edmund Burke who said the only thing necessary for triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.
• 57:27
  And so we all need to do a little something, and like Dr.
• 57:32
  Jan says, you know, what are you gonna do to hold these people accountable?
• 57:37
  It's up to each and every one of us.
• 57:40
  I want to thank you, our listeners.
• 57:42
  God bless you.
• 57:43
  Thank our military.
• 57:45
  We love you.
• 57:46
  God bless America.
• 57:48
  I will see you next week.