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Lessons - Transforming Personal Challenges Into Fuel For Unprecedented Achievement | Travis Hearn - Mindset Expert & Pastor · Success Story with Scott Clary

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  In this lessons episode, discover how life's fires from personal failures to moments of crisis
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  serve as catalysts for growth and purpose. Learn why setbacks like a DUI or business collapse
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  can refine character rather than define it. Learn how reframing trials as controlled
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  fires reveals hidden strengths and understand why embracing vulnerability and faith provides
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  practical tools for navigating life's toughest challenges.
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  As we go through your journey, the fire is for you. What does that mean to you
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  as a title and why did you choose it? But what does it mean to you as you go through all these
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  inflection points in your life? For example, when you go through that point where you have your DUI,
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  you go to your mom's pastor's house for the first time, connect those dots for me.
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  Great question. The fire is for you title. The book is not it's not a it's not a book of
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  it is about what happened and things that I've been to. The book is for you. The book is for
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  the reader. The book is because every one of us, every one of us, go through fires.
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  Right? So you just said like you have a business in or you know, you're your chase, you're
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  chase, we all do that. Man, like man, I want to build a great company. The church is a business.
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  The church is a ministry, but it's a business. It is a it is a corporation. It has money coming in,
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  money going out. You know, we've got I've got 50 full-time employees, probably another 50-part time
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  employee. Like the church is a business. You're growing the church. Yes, it's ministry, but
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  there is this business. We have HR department. We've got, you know, conforming abide by laws and
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  all these things. You know, so impact church, my church, it's entrepreneur, entrepreneur,
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  birthed out of a Bible study for the Arizona Cardinals. So the Arizona Cardinals football team
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  start, you know, start a Bible study for the football team, eventually open it to the public
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  in the rest of history. So going back to your question, my church is flooded with people
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  going through fires. So is this nation? So is this world? Man, I'm going through depression. That's
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  a fire, anxiety, fear, guilt, worry, shame, shame. Oh my gosh. The times that we've done stuff in
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  our life that that we're not proud of and we know other people that hurt them and we can carry
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  this shame, this guilt. And so those are fires, man, cancer. My stepfather was diagnosed with cancer
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  given two to five years to live. It's my mom's, you know, third marriage, her first great marriage.
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  He's a good man. That's a fire. My sibling who is fighting fentanyl addiction. That's a fire.
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  Like we all go through fires. Man, addiction, alcoholism, brokenness, divorce, failure, my
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  business, dude, I, this is the fourth time I've tried to get a company off the ground and all four of
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  them have like, that's a fire, right? So what, what, what I have learned in my own life is that
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  God, God, there are no wildfires in life. There are only controlled fires, meaning scripture,
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  whether somebody believes in it or not, you can't, you can't deny the things that it says,
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  the truth, the little nuggets of truth, like vow shall not murder. Maybe you don't believe in
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  God or Jesus, but I mean, that's a pretty good rule to live by matter if you don't believe in God.
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  Yeah, don't murder. Don't commit adultery. I mean, that's kind of good. Don't lie. Don't cheat.
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  Don't steal. Don't, you know, but, but one of them, one of the scripture, a couple of them,
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  but that it talks about how we, we get put in the fires to be tested in that fire purifies us,
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  right? It refines us. So the fire of brokenness that I went through, the fire of that failure,
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  that's going to refine me because I'm not doing that ever again. So that's refining me, right?
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  The fire of whatever, infidelity or the fire of cheating or and I get you get caught. Okay,
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  well, that sucks. We're human, man. We all, we have all done human stuff, but hopefully we learn
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  from that and we go, man, I need to change some things about who I am. Maybe I need some therapy.
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  Maybe I need some, some counseling, right? And so the fire, the fire being for you, it purifies you,
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  it hopefully it burns out the, your own means doesn't feel like it though.
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  And the moment it's hot, it burns. It feels like the house is going to burn down. See in the
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  Bible, it uses three metaphors for trial. It uses storms. It uses valleys and it uses fires,
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  right? And so the fire is for you is a book for people to go, dude, I've gone through some,
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  some hell and this book is going to help you get through your hell. I've gone through some hell too.
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  You know, being a man of faith doesn't exempt you, doesn't put an umbrella of like, you know,
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  like, dude, this is life. This isn't heaven. The, you know, it rains on the just and the unjust
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  and good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. And so
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  going back to your story, the fire is for you. That's what that title means to me because like
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  two years ago, I went through the fire of my life. My family, we went through the fire of our
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  life and it almost killed me. So I wanted to talk about what that fire was in a second. I
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  want to go there just yet. I just want to, I want to just point out. So even when you're getting
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  that DUI and kind of just like talking back to something that I mentioned about if it didn't
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  happen, who knows when it would have happened, right? And that's like the perfect example of fires
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  for you. And I think that without the biblical analogies, I think that when people go through
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  stuff, when people go through really hard times, the people that I repeatedly see come out of
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  that successful because everybody goes through like, you might, everybody does, it's not like a,
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  hopefully it doesn't happen to me. Like, life's going to have to have you and life's going to have
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  me. Fire's going to happen to your airless. But it is how you come out on the other side of it.
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  So, so how did you, how did you come out on the other side of that DUI? But I do want to,
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  and I'll answer that question. I do want to say you literally just, you literally, you just,
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  you were a preacher for a second. Because because here's why, because you say, well, you said it's not
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  if it's when. Yeah. Right. Well, David said and saw one of them, one of the most famous chapters
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  in the Bible that that every rapper has done a segment on this chapter is even though I walk,
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  even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, right? I shall fear no evil for you,
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  you are with me. What does he say? He says, even though I walk, he doesn't say, I hope I don't,
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  he doesn't say maybe, hope, like it might, no, he says even though and, and, and those are valleys.
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  And so going back to that DUI, I wouldn't be who I am today without it. I always say I went from
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  jail to Jesus. Like, like, that was a wild day. I went from like, I had this cool accolade and,
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  you know, got an award to like, dude, I got arrested, put in jail to like, dude, I just discovered
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  my purpose in life. And, and yeah, it did, it did, it did shape me. It did define me.
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  God has no, this is what I've learned, dude, I'm in the people business. Yeah. I have, I have
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  billionaires in my church, you know, 500 millionaires, 200 millionaires, like it's Scottsdale.
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  It's the entrepreneurial hub of the nation. It's a very, that's a very wealthy city, very wealthy
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  city, very affluent. That I, I, I pastor pro athletes. I have for 23 years. The biggest names
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  in sports are in my church. They're in my phone. I pastor them, right? This is the thing when,
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  when you talk about mine, mine was jail. I was like, dude, I, I screwed that up. But a lot of times
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  people have everything. And it looks seemingly good realizing, dude, I have nothing. And a great
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  example of that is a friend of mine that I had on our stage in year three of the churches,
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  Rev. Run from Rundy, MC, right? And I interviewed him and I go, dude, like, when did you become a
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  Christian? Because he's obviously very vocal about his faith. And he goes, my top, he goes, my top
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  was my bottom. And I go, tell him, he goes, you know how a lot of people, they hit rock bottom.
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  And then like, oh, I found God and I found real, I'm like, yeah, that, yeah, I know about that. I
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  know. And he goes, well, mine was the opposite. I'm run Rundy, MC at the peak of like,
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  Rundy, MC, right? He's like, dude, I got everything you can buy. I bought it. I've got everything
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  money can buy. I've got any, any earthly thing that you want in this world. I got it. And he
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  goes, and I felt so spiritually bankrupt that in my bathtub, I write then and there with a pile
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  a pile of weed on the bathtub. He's like, I said, you know what, I'm going to give this,
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  this Jesus thing a try. You know, and I think, what, what are we trying to do? I can tell you
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  story after story after story. Scott, I could tell you hundreds of stories of people who are trying
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  to chase what many of us are trying to chase. And they've got it. I can tell you the hundreds and
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  hundreds of people that have gotten it. And they go, dude, this is empty. This is lonely. I'm broken.
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  I have 30, 40, 50, 100 million dollars, 200 million dollars in the bank. I'm broken.
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  So what actually is the meaning of life? You know what I'm saying? And that's what I discovered
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  from, from, from, from me, being put in jail, you know, it was like, dude, and it wasn't my first
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  time in jail. Did I, I told you, I partied my face off. I, you know, I got, I got in trouble
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  for stealing and I got in trouble. Like, he's just broken this. And so the fire is for you,
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  is like, yeah, that was a fire. The DUI was a fire. Disappointing my mom. Man, that was, dude,
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  like that was a fire. And, but at the same time, there was a fire going on before those moments.
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  And the fire was just like, dude, who am I? What am I supposed to do? Why am I here? What,
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  is this what it's about? When awards? Get on a starting team. Be a star. That's what life is
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  about. And I can tell you star after star after star NFL MLB NBA, WNBA, who they look, they're all
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  stars to us. But like, I know the truth. I know what's going on in their lives. You know what I'm
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  saying? And like, life is tough, man, hurt people, hurt people, broken people, break people.
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  Like, that's what life is. And so for me, the fire is for you is not about me. Yes, I'm telling
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  many of my stories, but it's giving people tools to get through the fires that they're going through
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  right now. Tools, like real tools. Like, how do I do this, man? How do I do this? Like, I had a player
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  one my first year in the in the in the in post sports. And I won't allow Iostrain. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  I'm 25 years old or something like that. And, you know, I'm walking in the hallways of an arena.
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  And I'm like, dude, there's Shaq. There's Kobe. They they're on the Lakers and they played the
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  Suns that day. And I was stars, you know, like any I'm like star struck. I'm like, dude, that's
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  I'm 25. I'm like, this is my first time ever doing this. I didn't sleep the night before I was
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  like, this is crazy. And I called Natalie. I went around the hallway. I'm like, dude,
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  Shaq's the biggest dude I've ever seen in my life. Like, I'm literally as big as his leg, you
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  know, let Natalie's my life. And so I'm star struck until like the third game. And we in the NBA,
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  we have chapel before every game. By the way, the NBA is a business. Then I fell as a business.
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  Major League Baseball is a business. The WNBA. It's a business. They're a business multi,
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  you know, million billion dollar businesses, right? I think it's fascinating that they make space
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  for like people to like have have a little devotional. I think it is interesting. I've never heard of
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  this before. I before I heard of you to be quiet on it. I didn't know I didn't know that exist.
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  I didn't either until it, you know, until I got invited to be a part of it. I didn't even know
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  it was a thing. But like, both so for the NBA before every game, one hour before every game,
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  we have a little 15 minute window of chapel and it's both teams come or invited. And, you know,
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  in that moment, we'll talk maybe a verse scripture, but just like, you're getting centered.
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  You're about to go perform. So no matter it's all it's all it's all centering. It's all like,
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  it's centering. It's routine. So hey, I'm my own a company. I'm my own McDonald's. I'm my own
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  Arby's. I'm my own 15 of them. I'm my own 3000 of them, but like, but, but don't, don't miss out on
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  this, this, this kind of power to go, but you know what? I do need, I'd need to center myself
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  because we just go. And then, you know, and then pretty soon, like what you said, we're going
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  and blowing. And then it's like, dude, now like, man, I lost my marriage. I wasn't there for my
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  children's games. And, but man, I made a lot of wealth. But then you wonder what's it for?
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