Latest / Ron Verb / The Ron Verb Show - 5pm Hour Monday, 08/17/26
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- 0:01Speaker 1: On NewsRadio 570, WKBN.
- 0:04Speaker 2: Back to it, NewsRadio 570, WKBN 505. On a Monday,
- 0:08Speaker 2: August 17th, 80 degrees. Nice to be with you. Ron
- 0:11Speaker 2: Furb from the Kingdom of Mahoning. Till 6 o'clock tonight,
- 0:15Speaker 2: then the Rockport Wealth Truth and Investing Program on NewsRadio 570, WKBN.
- 0:21Speaker 3: And you're on the air. You're on.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Yes.
- 0:27Speaker 4: First time caller to get on the air since 1997.
- 0:33Speaker 4: I probably talked to you about 100 times before then.
- 0:39Speaker 3: 1997 was the last time you called?
- 0:41Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Wait a second here. I got to do some quick math.
- 0:45Speaker 2: Let's see. 97 would be three years from two.
- 0:47Speaker 3: It's 2026. That's 26, 27, 28, 29 years.
- 0:52Speaker 4: You bet.
- 0:53Speaker 2: 29 years in between phone calls. But before that, you
- 0:57Speaker 2: called 100 times.
- 0:59Speaker 4: Hundreds, probably. Micromazillionopal is what I used to call as.
- 1:04Speaker 3: What happened to you?
- 1:07Speaker 4: Well, I switched jobs. I worked up near Sharon and
- 1:11Speaker 4: started working out of Pittsburgh, and I couldn't get you.
- 1:14Speaker 4: I literally had a writing campaign trying to get you
- 1:18Speaker 4: guys to go to an online distribution so I could
- 1:21Speaker 4: listen to you. And you wouldn't do it back then.
- 1:24Speaker 4: So it's awesome that you're on iHeartRadio now and I
- 1:28Speaker 4: can listen to you all the time. But there's a
- 1:33Speaker 4: huge fan from last time I talked to you.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Yeah, technology's an amazing thing, you know, when it came
- 1:39Speaker 2: up with the iHeartRadio app and all that kind of stuff.
- 1:41Speaker 3: It's a blessing and it's a curse.
- 1:44Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure. All right, so what I wanted to
- 1:47Speaker 4: talk about is I think that a lot of the
- 1:51Speaker 4: stuff that you've And one of the topics you don't
- 1:54Speaker 4: ever talk about, or you very rarely talk about it,
- 1:57Speaker 4: is the driver for almost everything.
- 1:59Speaker 5: Else you do talk about.
- 2:01Speaker 4: And that's, you know, if you look at what Trump does,
- 2:07Speaker 4: and I'm not a liberal. I was registered libertarian for
- 2:11Speaker 4: 20 plus years. And the days Trump took over, I said, well, and,
- 2:18Speaker 4: you know, I was a Ross Vervois guy with you for...
- 2:23Speaker 4: two different election cycles. And when Trump took over, I
- 2:29Speaker 4: wanted him to succeed because I loved almost all of
- 2:33Speaker 4: the agenda. But I'll tell you what, he, though, I
- 2:38Speaker 4: think his immigration stuff, if you look at what is
- 2:43Speaker 4: it that drives him and what are his motivations when
- 2:47Speaker 4: he is clearly motivated to handle immigration. He's clearly motivated
- 2:55Speaker 4: to handle drugs and fentanyl to the tune of going
- 3:01Speaker 4: off and blowing up boats and stuff like that. He's
- 3:06Speaker 4: clearly motivated to... Or he said he was motivated. And
- 3:11Speaker 4: here's one of the things that I think he's tricked
- 3:13Speaker 4: you on. He says he was motivated to change... manufacturing
- 3:20Speaker 4: in the United States to bring manufacturing here. But unlike
- 3:25Speaker 4: those other two where he's unwavering.
- 3:27Speaker 5: I.
- 3:29Speaker 4: Think he's tricked the nation into believing that he is
- 3:34Speaker 4: trying to bring manufacturing back and he's trying to do
- 3:38Speaker 4: it via tariffs. And the reason I say that that's
- 3:44Speaker 4: not a true motivation of it is that he keeps
- 3:46Speaker 4: pulling them back. if he truly wanted manufacturing to come here,
- 3:51Speaker 4: he would levy those tariffs and then he would work
- 3:55Speaker 4: with Congress to get them to be permanent. And he
- 4:00Speaker 4: isn't doing that. He's pulling them back all the time
- 4:02Speaker 4: in a way that demotivates all of the manufacturers from
- 4:06Speaker 4: coming here. And that's terribly frustrating to me that, you know,
- 4:13Speaker 4: that I think is one of your key reasons why
- 4:16Speaker 4: you support him and And it was one of my
- 4:19Speaker 4: key reasons why I would have supported Ross Perot or him.
- 4:24Speaker 4: But he's pulling those tariffs back constantly and then re-implementing them.
- 4:33Speaker 4: And that tells all of the long-term investors that would
- 4:38Speaker 4: be working on manufacturing that they shouldn't put their long-term
- 4:44Speaker 4: money into manufacturing plants that cost... billions of dollars in
- 4:49Speaker 4: the United States because they don't have the guarantee that
- 4:54Speaker 4: those things are going to be long-term. And he's not
- 4:56Speaker 4: getting any congressional backing for long-term tariffs because all the
- 5:03Speaker 4: tariffs have to be approved by Congress, even though he's
- 5:07Speaker 4: applying them via executive orders. Those things won't stick. They
- 5:13Speaker 4: only last as long as he lasts. And then they
- 5:16Speaker 4: go away.
- 5:16Speaker 3: So You know, that's no good.
- 5:19Speaker 4: Now, on to what I think is a truly motivating
- 5:24Speaker 4: factor and the thing that you rarely will talk about
- 5:29Speaker 4: on this show is Epstein. And, you know, I don't
- 5:35Speaker 4: know if you know who Katie Fang is or if
- 5:37Speaker 4: you've been following the lawsuits.
- 5:41Speaker 5: I do not.
- 5:41Speaker 3: Explain it to us so we all understand.
- 5:45Speaker 5: Okay.
- 5:45Speaker 4: So Katie Fang is a lawyer. And she's also a.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Journalist.
- 5:52Speaker 4: And she's filed some lawsuits to get to some of
- 5:56Speaker 4: the key Epstein files that should have been released. So
- 6:04Speaker 4: last November, Congress voted to release 100% of the Epstein
- 6:10Speaker 4: files and to have them redacted in a way that
- 6:14Speaker 4: that there were a very finite list of exceptions to
- 6:19Speaker 4: what had to be redacted, where specifically the victims' names,
- 6:26Speaker 4: the victims' information, were about the only things. I mean,
- 6:34Speaker 4: almost everything else was literally spelled out in the Epstein
- 6:41Speaker 4: File Release Act. I can't remember its official name, but
- 6:46Speaker 4: Those were all spelled out that if it embarrasses somebody
- 6:50Speaker 4: that's in there, it doesn't matter as long as they
- 6:53Speaker 4: aren't a victim. If they were even an innocent bystander,
- 6:59Speaker 4: if your name was in there or my name was
- 7:01Speaker 4: in there, those names still come out. Only redact victims'
- 7:05Speaker 4: names and a handful of other very specific things. So
- 7:11Speaker 4: fast forward to today, and even though There was a
- 7:16Speaker 4: specific date in December of last year that those files
- 7:21Speaker 4: were supposed to be released. The Department of Justice was
- 7:24Speaker 4: supposed to be the one to do the redactions. Millions
- 7:27Speaker 4: of files and 40 terabytes of video are in what
- 7:34Speaker 4: we call.
- 7:34Speaker 5: The Epstein files.
- 7:39Speaker 4: Not supposed to be transparent to allow us to see
- 7:45Speaker 4: what happened and why has, you know, what we know,
- 7:50Speaker 4: there are thousands of people involved. And there's huge confusion
- 7:58Speaker 4: by the public, like, why can't we see this? Why
- 8:01Speaker 4: were only two people ever charged? There are literally hundreds
- 8:09Speaker 4: of girls that have made themselves public that were a
- 8:12Speaker 4: part of the sex ring. So, again, fast forward to today,
- 8:18Speaker 4: and a set number of those files that were easy
- 8:24Speaker 4: to identify, because those files all have, like, these numeric codes,
- 8:30Speaker 4: and certain reporters knew what those codes were for certain files,
- 8:35Speaker 4: really key ones. And in one case, it's a key
- 8:39Speaker 4: one that is specific to Trump that A girl that
- 8:46Speaker 4: alleges that he raped her and beat her when she
- 8:52Speaker 4: was 13, who was interviewed by the FBI three times.
- 8:59Speaker 4: And there are these specifically numbered and identifiable files that
- 9:09Speaker 4: are forced to be registered by the FBI. Right. In
- 9:13Speaker 4: a normal piece of work for the FBI, when you
- 9:17Speaker 4: go out and you interview somebody, I think they're called 302s.
- 9:21Speaker 4: I might have that number wrong, but that's what they
- 9:25Speaker 4: call the file that gets typed up. But at the
- 9:29Speaker 4: same time, they're also forced to register every one of
- 9:32Speaker 4: their notes. The 302 is just a summary. The notes are...
- 9:40Speaker 4: handwritten usually, and in this case, they were handwritten, and
- 9:43Speaker 4: we know that there were a minimum of 50 pages
- 9:47Speaker 4: of handwritten notes from those three interviews. So, those were
- 9:55Speaker 4: never released, those handwritten notes, and Katie Fang, the reporter
- 10:03Speaker 4: and lawyer, has filed a lawsuit to say, hey, Department
- 10:10Speaker 4: of Justice, you are not in compliance. You are supposed
- 10:14Speaker 4: to release, not just, and it isn't just specific to Trump,
- 10:18Speaker 4: So that is one of the ones she keyed in
- 10:20Speaker 4: on because it was an easy one. They knew the numbers,
- 10:24Speaker 4: and they went and looked, and they saw that the
- 10:26Speaker 4: files were not complete. There are two or three other
- 10:31Speaker 4: ones that refer to things like somebody that has looked
- 10:39Speaker 4: at a video, sent Jeffrey Epstein an email, and said,
- 10:41Speaker 4: I love this video that has something to do with torture.
- 10:47Speaker 4: It appears to clearly be sent by a man, not
- 10:50Speaker 4: a victim. And that guy's name was redacted. And then
- 10:56Speaker 4: she's also saying, hey, there are tens of thousands of
- 11:04Speaker 4: these documents that are in a foreign language that were redacted.
- 11:10Speaker 4: And those tens of thousands of documents... should have been redacted.
- 11:17Speaker 4: Just because they're in a foreign language doesn't mean you're
- 11:19Speaker 4: not supposed to do it. That wasn't one of the exceptions.
- 11:23Speaker 4: And why is that important, or how the heck did
- 11:26Speaker 4: they get tens of thousands of documents that are in
- 11:31Speaker 4: a foreign language? Well, a ton of Epstein's girls, he
- 11:35Speaker 4: was bringing them from foreign countries all around the world.
- 11:41Speaker 4: He was curating, bringing... What's the word? Making these... Getting
- 11:52Speaker 4: people to bring these females from foreign countries into the U.S.
- 11:59Speaker 4: to participate in whatever bad things he was doing. So,
- 12:05Speaker 4: Katie Fang has filed this lawsuit. The lawsuit has been.
- 12:10Speaker 5: Pushed.
- 12:12Speaker 4: The judge has ordered... that the Department of Justice and
- 12:17Speaker 4: the new Attorney General, Todd Blanche, were required to show
- 12:21Speaker 4: up last Tuesday the 13th, or Wednesday the 13th, and
- 12:27Speaker 4: provide in-person handwritten notes on Trump and explanation of, oh,
- 12:35Speaker 4: by the way, there's also a piece in that Epstein
- 12:37Speaker 4: release law that says for every single redaction, there has
- 12:44Speaker 4: to be an excuse. There has to be a reason logged, written, logged, computerized,
- 12:52Speaker 4: cataloged in a way that when we, the people, the media,
- 13:00Speaker 4: or Congress wants to go look at those Epstein files,
- 13:04Speaker 4: they can see why the redactions happened. So that log
- 13:11Speaker 4: never got created. It was supposed to have a date
- 13:17Speaker 4: back to two weeks after they released the original Epstein files.
- 13:21Speaker 4: So last December plus two weeks. They've never created a
- 13:26Speaker 4: single log or any redaction. So that makes it impossible
- 13:31Speaker 4: to trace why all of these individual files were redacted
- 13:39Speaker 4: in ways or never even showed up. But more importantly...
- 13:44Speaker 4: The ones that were redacted, and we can see them,
- 13:46Speaker 4: but they're mostly blacked out, or key names that we
- 13:49Speaker 4: think are important were blacked out. Why did that happen?
- 13:55Speaker 4: Those logs are supposed to show that completely. So, her
- 14:01Speaker 4: lawsuit is deep into the..
- 14:04Speaker 5: It's deep, deep, deep.
- 14:05Speaker 4: Into actual success of trying to get those files released,
- 14:11Speaker 4: and the judge has been... on multiple occasions, told by
- 14:17Speaker 4: the Department of Justice, no, this person that's talking about
- 14:22Speaker 4: in this email about liking a torture video from Jeffrey.
- 14:25Speaker 5: Epstein, that's a victim.
- 14:28Speaker 4: Well, it clearly isn't a victim, but the redaction log
- 14:33Speaker 4: isn't available to us, and the judge is like, no,
- 14:37Speaker 4: bring the full unredacted thing to me as a judge.
- 14:42Speaker 5: I'll look at it.
- 14:43Speaker 4: And then I want your redaction log, and I want
- 14:45Speaker 4: to know when every single redaction log is going to
- 14:49Speaker 4: be created, because it was supposed to be done last December.
- 14:52Speaker 5: And the judge has just last Wednesday, and again, this
- 15:01Speaker 5: is something that is being said.
- 15:05Speaker 4: In the non-conservative media, but it's never occurring in Republican
- 15:12Speaker 4: conservative media, that they get to this place where they
- 15:19Speaker 4: should be releasing that information, and the judge isn't getting it.
- 15:25Speaker 5: Even the judge.
- 15:26Speaker 3: Can't get it.
- 15:27Speaker 4: And the Department of Justice and the new Attorney General
- 15:30Speaker 4: are saying things like, that log is too hard to create.
- 15:35Speaker 4: It's too hard for us to... translate the foreign documents.
- 15:42Speaker 4: And those are the excuses. And the judge is saying,
- 15:46Speaker 4: those aren't acceptable. They aren't valid according to the law
- 15:50Speaker 4: that you're working off. That's Dean Files' law. Specifically, you
- 15:55Speaker 4: can only redact true victims.
- 15:58Speaker 2: So, So to cut to the chase, what is your point?
- 16:06Speaker 2: You're saying that– I.
- 16:07Speaker 3: Mean, cut to the chase.
- 16:08Speaker 4: I think that this is a driver. I think what
- 16:12Speaker 4: we can see, if you're watching that side of the
- 16:14Speaker 4: world and you see this lawsuit progressing and you see
- 16:19Speaker 4: these attempts to bring to light this huge Epstein thing–
- 16:29Speaker 4: And the relationship with a number of Trump's friends and
- 16:32Speaker 4: Trump himself, almost every time one of those days happens,
- 16:38Speaker 4: he does something that I'll call stupid.
- 16:42Speaker 3: All right, stand by for me. Just hang in there
- 16:45Speaker 3: for a minute.
- 16:46Speaker 2: I'll come back to him and hear more and pick
- 16:49Speaker 2: his brain a little bit more right after this.
- 16:55Speaker 3: Well, listen, 70 WKVN. All right. So you think are
- 17:00Speaker 3: you there?
- 17:01Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 17:03Speaker 2: So you think that he's Trump's in the Epstein file, correct?
- 17:10Speaker 4: He is in the Epstein file thousands of times. But
- 17:13Speaker 4: more importantly, they've because he owns the Department of Justice.
- 17:19Speaker 4: And he's really asserted his power, unlike any other president
- 17:23Speaker 4: in our history ever. at least in this area, he's
- 17:28Speaker 4: able to block the release of the key things to
- 17:31Speaker 4: protect himself and others. Right.
- 17:33Speaker 3: A couple of questions.
- 17:34Speaker 2: As people often say, why before he was president, why wouldn't,
- 17:40Speaker 2: when Biden was president or Obama was president, why wouldn't
- 17:43Speaker 2: that information have come out.
- 17:47Speaker 3: Under their justice departments?
- 17:50Speaker 2: Because I mean, they hated obviously the Democrats hated the
- 17:54Speaker 2: guy and you saw the lawfare go after him. You
- 17:57Speaker 2: saw everything under the sun coming after Trump to try
- 18:00Speaker 2: to prevent him from running or getting reelected. Well, the
- 18:05Speaker 2: question always is if if you're saying, well, it was
- 18:08Speaker 2: there in the file and he's holding back on it.
- 18:13Speaker 3: And then people always say, well, wait a minute. What
- 18:15Speaker 3: about when Biden was in charge?
- 18:16Speaker 2: Why wasn't that leaked and released then? You're talking about
- 18:19Speaker 2: a guy whose personal finances were leaked. It's against the
- 18:23Speaker 2: law to leak out the IRS. You had an employee,
- 18:25Speaker 2: if you remember that, that leaked Trump's tax return and
- 18:28Speaker 2: Sean Hannity's tax return. And that's against the law. It
- 18:32Speaker 2: didn't matter to the New York Times. They published it anyway,
- 18:35Speaker 2: even though it's illegal. And the guy that ultimately released
- 18:38Speaker 2: that did end up going to jail, as he should have.
- 18:42Speaker 2: But I would say, why did the New York Times
- 18:44Speaker 2: publish it? They had no business publishing it.
- 18:47Speaker 3: It is illegal.
- 18:48Speaker 2: And so why wouldn't they have released this information under
- 18:52Speaker 2: Biden or Obama if Trump is in this file numerous times,
- 18:57Speaker 2: as you say?
- 18:59Speaker 4: No, thousands of times it's confirmed. And those are in
- 19:02Speaker 4: the documents that you can see. And the answer to
- 19:08Speaker 4: your question, I think, is that there's dirty here all
- 19:12Speaker 4: over the place in both sides.
- 19:14Speaker 5: It's not just..
- 19:17Speaker 3: And again, I told you I'm.
- 19:18Speaker 4: A libertarian, a conservative-leaning person. But the evidence appears to
- 19:24Speaker 4: be that there's all kinds of people involved. Bill Gates
- 19:28Speaker 4: was called in front of Congress to talk for a
- 19:32Speaker 4: whole day about his involvement with Epstein the number of
- 19:35Speaker 4: times that he visited an island. So I don't think
- 19:39Speaker 4: Trump's the only one. I think he's one of many
- 19:43Speaker 4: incredibly powerful people on both sides.
- 19:46Speaker 5: Of the aisle that.
- 19:47Speaker 4: Were implicated in this release. And I think there could
- 19:52Speaker 4: be incredibly complicated, but the whole point of this Epstein
- 19:56Speaker 4: Transparency Act, and that's the official name that I couldn't
- 19:59Speaker 4: remember before, but they passed last year, is let's get
- 20:05Speaker 4: to the bottom of it because there appears to be
- 20:10Speaker 4: really incriminating information about many incredibly powerful people.
- 20:16Speaker 2: And that information can be used to manipulate these people, correct?
- 20:22Speaker 3: Yes.
- 20:23Speaker 4: And that's the theory is that the original reason that
- 20:28Speaker 4: there are theories that Epstein gathered this with the blessing
- 20:37Speaker 4: and possibly the funding of both Mossad from Israel and
- 20:41Speaker 4: the U.S.
- 20:42Speaker 3: 's CIA.
- 20:44Speaker 4: I don't think any of that could ever be proven
- 20:47Speaker 4: because both of those are those powerful secretive organizations on
- 20:51Speaker 4: planet Earth.
- 20:52Speaker 2: But I believe that to be true as well. I mean,
- 20:58Speaker 2: if you take a look at Jeffrey Epstein, he was
- 21:01Speaker 2: created by the intelligence community. And you take a look
- 21:04Speaker 2: at all the people associated with him and their ties
- 21:06Speaker 2: to the intelligence community. I don't know if he was
- 21:09Speaker 2: in charge or Maxwell was in charge. Either way, though.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Right, right.
- 21:14Speaker 4: Either way.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Their goal was to get … Powerful people are implicated.
- 21:20Speaker 5: Correct.
- 21:20Speaker 3: Correct.
- 21:21Speaker 4: In doing these things that any one of us listening
- 21:24Speaker 4: to the radio right now would consider to be a
- 21:27Speaker 4: terrible violation of an underage girl. Of not just a little,
- 21:33Speaker 4: not a 17-year-old, not a two days before her 18th birthday.
- 21:38Speaker 4: We're talking about a 13-year-old in this case.
- 21:41Speaker 3: Correct.
- 21:41Speaker 4: And in many cases, they're very young girls.
- 21:45Speaker 3: Right, right.
- 21:46Speaker 4: Terribly violated. Right. And the whole darn thing was covered up.
- 21:52Speaker 4: And it continues to be.
- 21:54Speaker 3: Covered up today.
- 21:55Speaker 5: Right.
- 21:55Speaker 3: Stand by. Back with him in a minute. Stay tuned.
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- 23:06Speaker 2: All right, let me cut the chase with this guy.
- 23:11Speaker 2: If you're asking me, I mean, I'll just cut right
- 23:14Speaker 2: to the chase with you. If you're asking me, once again,
- 23:17Speaker 2: I think Epstein was created by the intelligence community.
- 23:20Speaker 5: Uh..
- 23:21Speaker 2: And there's plenty of ties to indicate that. I think
- 23:24Speaker 2: it's reprehensible, whether it's a combination of those two intelligence
- 23:28Speaker 2: communities or it's Mossad, I think it's reprehensible that they
- 23:33Speaker 2: would be running an operation that would involve having mature
- 23:37Speaker 2: men engage in sex with children. I think that's despicable
- 23:42Speaker 2: that that would be done.
- 23:44Speaker 3: I don't think it was... A big secret, Lolita Express,
- 23:49Speaker 3: the name of it.
- 23:51Speaker 2: Epstein Island was fairly well known what he was up
- 23:54Speaker 2: to and what was going on. I think you can
- 23:56Speaker 2: see what happened in a special treatment he got in
- 23:59Speaker 2: the first time he was tried and actually went to
- 24:01Speaker 2: the county jail.
- 24:03Speaker 3: In Florida, if you remember that, as I trust you do.
- 24:06Speaker 2: But that isn't, just to be clear, that isn't.
- 24:10Speaker 3: What I'm asking of you. No, I'm not done yet.
- 24:13Speaker 3: I'm not done yet. I'm not done yet.
- 24:14Speaker 4: Consider this.
- 24:15Speaker 3: I'm not done yet. Okay, I'm sorry. No, I'm sorry.
- 24:18Speaker 2: Clearly, Epstein got special treatment when that took place. And
- 24:22Speaker 2: so there's no doubt in my mind. I don't believe
- 24:25Speaker 2: Epstein hung himself. It's a belief of mine. I think
- 24:30Speaker 2: he was killed. And I think that many of these
- 24:32Speaker 2: people that are involved, Prince Andrew, I mean, you can
- 24:36Speaker 2: only speculate. I agree with you on Bill Gates. We
- 24:39Speaker 2: kind of knew what was going on there just based
- 24:41Speaker 2: on his divorce and what his wife said.
- 24:45Speaker 3: From Bill Gates. And you're right.
- 24:47Speaker 2: These are powerful politicians as well as business tycoons that
- 24:54Speaker 2: fell into this deviant trap, if you will. And I
- 25:02Speaker 2: think that information is there to use and manipulate these
- 25:07Speaker 2: people for purposes. I don't know who has the Epstein tapes.
- 25:13Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 25:14Speaker 4: Yeah, the FBI has them.
- 25:15Speaker 3: I don't know that they have them. No, they do.
- 25:18Speaker 4: They've confirmed that they've got 40 terabytes of data.
- 25:22Speaker 3: Okay.
- 25:24Speaker 2: But I don't know for certain who else has them.
- 25:27Speaker 2: I mean, there's... I don't know that I'm certain about
- 25:30Speaker 2: that part of it, that they have it. But with
- 25:33Speaker 2: that being said, if you're asking me, do I is
- 25:38Speaker 2: remember when Musk left and he said you'll never see
- 25:41Speaker 2: him released because Trump's in him? Do you remember that comment?
- 25:44Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely.
- 25:45Speaker 2: All right. So I thought that was an interesting comment.
- 25:48Speaker 2: Could could Trump be in him? There is a possibility.
- 25:53Speaker 2: I can't say for certain yes or no. People say, well,
- 25:56Speaker 2: Trump was the one who called and turned him in
- 25:59Speaker 2: to the authorities.
- 26:01Speaker 4: His name is visible in the exposed Epstein files today,
- 26:06Speaker 4: thousands of times.
- 26:09Speaker 2: But your name being in there doesn't mean you were
- 26:11Speaker 2: committing any of those acts, as they make it clear.
- 26:13Speaker 3: But the 302s.
- 26:15Speaker 4: That were the summary version of the FBI investigating this case, Okay, but.
- 26:23Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily mean he was engaged in those activities.
- 26:27Speaker 3: Could he be? Yes. I don't know.
- 26:30Speaker 2: But if you're asking me, do I think that all
- 26:33Speaker 2: of that information should be released?
- 26:35Speaker 3: Absolutely. Do I think it will be released? Absolutely not.
- 26:40Speaker 3: I think it should be. I don't think it will be.
- 26:44Speaker 2: I think there's a double standard of justice that you
- 26:47Speaker 2: see not just under– that you saw under previous administrations
- 26:51Speaker 2: and in this administration.
- 26:53Speaker 3: I don't see it being released.
- 26:56Speaker 2: And that's why people talk about the Epstein class, a
- 26:59Speaker 2: double standard of justice. And do I think that that
- 27:03Speaker 2: information can be used to manipulate people to get them
- 27:06Speaker 2: to do something? There are people that speculate that's why
- 27:08Speaker 2: Trump reversed himself on the Epstein files. That's why Trump
- 27:12Speaker 2: did what he did to get involved in the Iran war.
- 27:14Speaker 2: There's many people that speculate that's why he reversed himself.
- 27:19Speaker 3: I don't know. But is there a possibility? Absolutely. And
- 27:24Speaker 3: what I'm.
- 27:24Speaker 4: Asking of you isn't to admit anything or believe that
- 27:29Speaker 4: Trump did anything. I'm saying the attorney in question is
- 27:35Speaker 4: saying that she's seen enough to say that this is
- 27:40Speaker 4: the greatest cover-up in the history of America. This is
- 27:45Speaker 4: the greatest, like, the way Trump took control of the
- 27:50Speaker 4: Department of Justice and the But like way back in
- 27:55Speaker 4: the beginning of this call, I said.
- 27:56Speaker 3: Well, Trump reversed himself. If you remember, but I mean, like.
- 28:03Speaker 2: Sorry, I mean, Trump reversed himself. I mean, just Trump,
- 28:06Speaker 2: Trump and releasing the Epstein files. And then one day
- 28:08Speaker 2: all of a sudden he says, oh, that's old news.
- 28:10Speaker 2: You're still talking about that. And that's part of what
- 28:13Speaker 2: I'm what I'm talking about. I mean, my answer to
- 28:16Speaker 2: you is, is that the greatest cutter is Trump. Is
- 28:19Speaker 2: it the greatest cover-up?
- 28:21Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 28:21Speaker 2: There are a lot of hyperbole here. I don't know
- 28:25Speaker 2: that it's the greatest cover-up. The Kennedy assassination, many people
- 28:29Speaker 2: might say, with the killing of our president, was a
- 28:31Speaker 2: great cover-up, potentially. A lot of people talking about, are
- 28:34Speaker 2: there UFOs? Could be a great cover-up, potentially. Some of
- 28:38Speaker 2: the other stuff, the COVID situation could be a great cover-up, potentially.
- 28:43Speaker 2: Could this be? There's so many things of concern. This
- 28:46Speaker 2: might not be the greatest one. None of this surprises me.
- 28:51Speaker 2: I love that.
- 28:51Speaker 4: You put those four, put it in context with those
- 28:55Speaker 4: other three, because I think you're doing it justice by
- 28:59Speaker 4: saying that this might be as equal to those other three.
- 29:04Speaker 3: There's no question. Those are great. There's no question.
- 29:07Speaker 5: And it's active. It's active.
- 29:10Speaker 4: The other ones, I think everybody that's alive, they've done
- 29:15Speaker 4: everything they could to expose the information from Kennedy.
- 29:20Speaker 2: But to put a pause on this, because I can't
- 29:22Speaker 2: go on forever. The bottom line is nothing has happened
- 29:27Speaker 2: as far as any of the people involved in this
- 29:29Speaker 2: getting prosecuted and going to jail.
- 29:32Speaker 3: Over the years.
- 29:35Speaker 4: In court.
- 29:36Speaker 3: Over the years.
- 29:38Speaker 2: Years.
- 29:39Speaker 3: Nothing has happened. I get it.
- 29:42Speaker 2: Under Biden or Trump or Obama, nothing has happened, and
- 29:48Speaker 2: I don't think anything will as time drags on.
- 29:53Speaker 4: The hope with Trump was that he would allow things
- 29:56Speaker 4: like this to be exposed, and this one, since it
- 30:01Speaker 4: feels like it implicates him, he is... doing unmeasurable amounts
- 30:08Speaker 4: of things.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Perhaps so.
- 30:09Speaker 4: To block it and protect it.
- 30:11Speaker 3: Perhaps so. Or who knows? I don't know.
- 30:16Speaker 4: So watch for the Katie Blant, or, you know, the
- 30:19Speaker 4: Katie Fang.
- 30:20Speaker 2: Right, but I'm not going to hold my breath anticipating
- 30:22Speaker 2: that justice will prevail. I'm sorry to tell you this.
- 30:27Speaker 2: I just think they'll get away with it. Just as
- 30:30Speaker 2: the people who committed the Russian hoax under Trump's first
- 30:32Speaker 2: term got away with it. I am to the point
- 30:35Speaker 2: where I'm so sick and damn tired of everybody telling
- 30:38Speaker 2: me the day's going to come. The day's going to come.
- 30:41Speaker 2: Did we hold anybody accountable for the Russian hoax that
- 30:44Speaker 2: for the three years of Trump's first term?
- 30:47Speaker 3: No, nothing happened. But you're not listening.
- 30:53Speaker 2: You're not listening to what I'm saying.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Nothing happened there.
- 30:56Speaker 2: Did we hold anybody accountable for Fauci and what happened
- 30:59Speaker 2: as far as covid?
- 31:01Speaker 3: That killed people? That people died alone?
- 31:03Speaker 2: No. If you're asking me to shoot all this stuff,
- 31:07Speaker 2: I keep hearing, we're going to get to the bottom
- 31:09Speaker 2: of this. We're going to hold people accountable. We never do.
- 31:12Speaker 2: We never do.
- 31:13Speaker 3: I didn't say that. And it won't happen in this
- 31:15Speaker 3: case either. It just won't.
- 31:18Speaker 5: Okay.
- 31:18Speaker 4: Well, if that's the case, then it's a tragedy.
- 31:21Speaker 3: It is a tragedy. You know, disgusting. It is a tragedy.
- 31:25Speaker 2: But all that other crap is a tragedy, too. This
- 31:29Speaker 2: isn't just the only tragedy. What Fauci did with COVID
- 31:33Speaker 2: and the people that died and the funding and the lies,
- 31:36Speaker 2: that's a big tragedy, too. I mean, you know, you
- 31:39Speaker 2: want to focus on one. I'm not saying that there
- 31:42Speaker 2: aren't other ones in addition to this one. But I
- 31:45Speaker 2: am so sick and damn tired of we're going to
- 31:48Speaker 2: get to the bottom of all of this. We never do.
- 31:50Speaker 2: No one ever goes to jail. And it all, as
- 31:53Speaker 2: a citizen, for me, becomes nothing but bullcrap. It becomes toxic.
- 31:58Speaker 7: Talk.
- 31:58Speaker 3: It's all talk. Fauci's not being..
- 32:02Speaker 4: I'm not saying we're going to get to the bottom
- 32:04Speaker 4: of it.
- 32:04Speaker 3: I'm saying..
- 32:05Speaker 2: Is anybody going to go... We shall see. We shall see.
- 32:13Speaker 2: We shall see. You're on the air.
- 32:16Speaker 7: Yeah, Ron, how you doing today?
- 32:18Speaker 4: Good, sir.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Go ahead.
- 32:20Speaker 5: Good.
- 32:21Speaker 7: Everybody's talking about the national debt and everything today, acting
- 32:25Speaker 7: like Trump's responsible for $ 40 trillion that is possible this
- 32:31Speaker 7: week of us hitting $ 40 trillion. But they forget during
- 32:36Speaker 7: the Bush administration, the Obama administration, Biden administration, there's $ 30
- 32:46Speaker 7: trillion right there, okay? And as far as everybody crying
- 32:51Speaker 7: about Iran, that there's no exit plan, there's no this
- 32:55Speaker 7: or that. Okay, he's trying to save the Iranian people
- 33:00Speaker 7: that don't want to live under that regime anymore. And
- 33:03Speaker 7: that goes back to the Jimmy Carter administration. Ronald Reagan
- 33:07Speaker 7: should have handled this in the 80s. Okay. But they
- 33:11Speaker 7: say that, you know, Iran is, don't want to live
- 33:20Speaker 7: like officer or anything, how did anybody know that when
- 33:25Speaker 7: the regime's controlling that country and has been for 50 years? Okay. Now,
- 33:34Speaker 7: you could say with Iraq, okay, we all watched TV
- 33:39Speaker 7: the night that George Bush decided that he was going
- 33:43Speaker 7: to bomb the hell out of Iraq. We all cheered
- 33:47Speaker 7: for it, okay? All these years later, yeah, it was
- 33:51Speaker 7: a long war, and it probably should have been handled differently,
- 33:57Speaker 7: but the Iraq people are living a better life in
- 34:02Speaker 7: Iraq now. You don't hear anything, okay? And as far
- 34:07Speaker 7: as Iran with getting nuclear weapons.
- 34:12Speaker 4: Well, hell yeah, they were.
- 34:13Speaker 7: I mean, it's not a secret. Under Obama... North Korea
- 34:21Speaker 7: got their nuclear weapons, okay?
- 34:28Speaker 2: Who are you to tell other countries what they can do?
- 34:33Speaker 2: This is a country of 93 million people.
- 34:37Speaker 7: Right.
- 34:38Speaker 3: They're saying, well, wait a minute.
- 34:40Speaker 2: You're going to tell us it's okay for North Korea
- 34:43Speaker 2: and Israel, all these people have nuclear weapons, but we
- 34:46Speaker 2: can't as a deterrent? We can't do that? You think
- 34:53Speaker 2: this is an easy progress? You're talking about these other missions?
- 34:56Speaker 2: We've been a total failure in the Middle East, a
- 34:59Speaker 2: complete failure. We've lost soldiers that have been killed and
- 35:10Speaker 2: harmed physically, and we gave Afghanistan back in better shape
- 35:15Speaker 2: than when we took it. And the regime changes that
- 35:19Speaker 2: we've done in these other countries have not been a success.
- 35:25Speaker 2: We've been a dismal, complete failure. But we haven't learned
- 35:29Speaker 2: from it. You think it's going to be easy in Iran?
- 35:37Speaker 2: You think it's been a good move? Nothing's gone right.
- 35:41Speaker 2: There's absolutely nothing good about it has happened to our
- 35:45Speaker 2: economy or their economy. or the world's economy. And he
- 35:51Speaker 2: has no idea of how to get the hell out
- 35:53Speaker 2: of it. You want to escalate it? What do you
- 35:56Speaker 2: want to do? Drop a nuclear bomb? What do you
- 35:59Speaker 2: want to do? Put a million soldiers in there? Exactly
- 36:03Speaker 2: what do you want to do? It's 6,000 miles away
- 36:06Speaker 2: from here. We're having a hard time getting supplies on
- 36:09Speaker 2: the Abraham Lincoln. Have you followed that?
- 36:12Speaker 3: From the food. And look at what's going on there.
- 36:16Speaker 2: And what your sailors are saying that are on that
- 36:18Speaker 2: ship and what the problems are. You know, when I
- 36:22Speaker 2: hear you talk about the Middle East and how great
- 36:25Speaker 2: it was, I don't see any successes in the Middle East.
- 36:29Speaker 3: Any of them.
- 36:30Speaker 2: The regime changes we have been failures at. And we
- 36:35Speaker 2: continue to be failures at. And even Trump pointed that out.
- 36:39Speaker 2: And even Trump believed in that and said he didn't
- 36:42Speaker 2: want to get involved in the Middle East and regime
- 36:44Speaker 2: changes because of that. So now I guess it's okay?
- 36:52Speaker 2: When he keeps telling me we've won, we got him
- 36:55Speaker 2: on the ropes. I've heard it week after week after
- 36:58Speaker 2: week after week after week. We got this pause. We
- 37:00Speaker 2: got another pause. People just got to get used to
- 37:04Speaker 2: higher gas prices. This is what you're touting to me?
- 37:09Speaker 3: Based on what?
- 37:12Speaker 7: Iran can't have... A nuclear weapon.
- 37:16Speaker 3: Okay. Well, I got news for you.
- 37:18Speaker 7: The deals will be so much bigger and there'll be
- 37:23Speaker 7: so much more bloodshed. So much more high.
- 37:28Speaker 2: This is your space.
- 37:30Speaker 7: If we don't do something about it.
- 37:32Speaker 2: I thought that was the point of the bunker buster.
- 37:37Speaker 2: I thought that was the end of it. Mission accomplished.
- 37:40Speaker 2: And quite frankly, I think it was accomplished. How do
- 37:43Speaker 2: you know it wasn't?
- 37:45Speaker 7: That doesn't stop Russia or North Korea from transporting a
- 37:49Speaker 7: nuclear weapon into Iran.
- 37:51Speaker 3: Okay, so what do you want to do about it?
- 37:54Speaker 3: Where do you want to go from here?
- 37:56Speaker 7: Russia's not even crazy enough to give them a weapon
- 37:59Speaker 7: because they don't.
- 38:00Speaker 3: Want Iran to be any stronger. What do you want
- 38:03Speaker 3: to do? You're so paranoid about all this, and I
- 38:06Speaker 3: am not. What do you want to do?
- 38:08Speaker 7: What would I do?
- 38:09Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you want to do?
- 38:10Speaker 7: I'd take and bomb 100 miles, the whole freaking coast
- 38:15Speaker 7: of that river, the strait.
- 38:17Speaker 2: We've been bombing the hell out of everything. We've been
- 38:20Speaker 2: bombing and bombing. As a matter of fact, we've been
- 38:23Speaker 2: bombing so much we're out of bombs. Now what do
- 38:25Speaker 2: you want to do?
- 38:27Speaker 7: We're not out of bombs.
- 38:28Speaker 2: Okay. You know, you're just spewing stuff that, yeah, how
- 38:34Speaker 2: come all these military guys say we're low on this stuff?
- 38:37Speaker 3: Should I just disregard what they say?
- 38:41Speaker 7: If you want to believe what the Democrats are feeding,
- 38:43Speaker 7: I'm not.
- 38:44Speaker 4: I'm not.
- 38:44Speaker 2: These are Democrats. These are the military guys. We've given
- 38:47Speaker 2: so much away and sold so much to Ukraine. And
- 38:51Speaker 2: then we've we've been bombing a living hell out of
- 38:54Speaker 2: Iran that there it isn't something you can turn around
- 38:58Speaker 2: in the blink of an eye.
- 38:59Speaker 3: How come all that bombing hasn't worked? No, I'm asking you.
- 39:04Speaker 2: We've done all this bombing. How's the Abraham Lincoln doing
- 39:10Speaker 2: over there?
- 39:14Speaker 7: It's still shooting off missiles that it needs to.
- 39:17Speaker 2: What's the conditions on the ship? What are they doing
- 39:21Speaker 2: on the ship? What's going on right now?
- 39:24Speaker 7: How do you know? That's all top secret.
- 39:27Speaker 3: No, it isn't. What are they doing on the ship?
- 39:31Speaker 7: What are they doing? They're doing their job protecting the
- 39:35Speaker 7: United States.
- 39:35Speaker 3: You're clueless.
- 39:37Speaker 2: They've got a problem with food. They've got a problem
- 39:40Speaker 2: with the whole thing. They're bringing a ship back after
- 39:43Speaker 2: 250 days because they've got major issues with the personnel
- 39:46Speaker 2: on the ship.
- 39:48Speaker 3: Are you following this at all?
- 39:52Speaker 7: So you basically..
- 39:54Speaker 3: Are you following this at all? I'm asking you.
- 39:57Speaker 7: You want to surrender and you want to let Iran
- 39:59Speaker 7: have a nuclear weapon where they can dictate anything. And
- 40:03Speaker 7: they're going to get all the..
- 40:06Speaker 2: They're not going to dictate crap to the United States.
- 40:09Speaker 2: They want to use a nuclear weapon. We'll annihilate them.
- 40:12Speaker 2: Do you not have any respect for this country and
- 40:15Speaker 2: the weapons that we have? I don't even think it's
- 40:19Speaker 2: remotely a threat. I think the bunker buster was effective, period.
- 40:23Speaker 2: I think you're ridiculous.
- 40:25Speaker 3: You're on the air. You're on the air.
- 40:31Speaker 4: Mr.
- 40:32Speaker 7: Mayor, how are you?
- 40:33Speaker 3: Yes, I'm well, thank you.
- 40:36Speaker 8: The fellow that was calling, you know, talking all about
- 40:39Speaker 8: Trump and his situation with Epstein and that, he was
- 40:42Speaker 8: trying to, and I'm sure you realize it, He was
- 40:46Speaker 8: not trying to have you think that he wanted you
- 40:53Speaker 8: to think that Trump is guilty. That man was after
- 40:57Speaker 8: the truth. And you know what? I commend you. I'm
- 41:01Speaker 8: so glad that you let him speak because it was
- 41:06Speaker 8: a breath of fresh air. It really was. I know
- 41:09Speaker 8: that you're a Trumpster through and through.
- 41:11Speaker 3: No, no, no.
- 41:12Speaker 2: See, this is where you're wrong. If Trump's involved in it,
- 41:15Speaker 2: then I want the Epstein file, the whole damn thing released. Now,
- 41:21Speaker 2: when I hear this bullcrap, I'm not for covering. I
- 41:24Speaker 2: stand by. Stand by. I'm coming back to you in
- 41:28Speaker 2: a minute. 5.52, back after this. Ron Furb, NewsRadio 570 WPBN.
- 41:32Speaker 2: From the kingdom of Mahoning, the Rockport Truth in Investing program, tonight,
- 41:36Speaker 2: 6 to 7.
- 41:37Speaker 3: I'll be right back. All right, back to it. NewsRadio 570.
- 41:53Speaker 2: Listen, I don't mean to get upset with you, but
- 41:55Speaker 2: this idea.
- 41:58Speaker 8: Calm down. Just calm down. I know these guys. There
- 42:02Speaker 8: are times when you seem like you're after, Ron, all
- 42:07Speaker 8: we want. All we want out here is the truth.
- 42:11Speaker 3: Well, that's all I want, too.
- 42:13Speaker 2: Do you think for a minute, listen, I'll tell you,
- 42:15Speaker 2: like I said a million times, release everything in the
- 42:18Speaker 2: Epstein files.
- 42:19Speaker 3: I have no problem with it. Do I think it's
- 42:21Speaker 3: going to happen?
- 42:22Speaker 2: No. Release everything with Fauci and COVID. I'm all for
- 42:26Speaker 2: holding everybody responsible for the bull crap I put up with.
- 42:30Speaker 2: As I said to that guy, the Russian hoax with
- 42:32Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton, the.
- 42:34Speaker 3: COVID thing with Fauci.
- 42:35Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 42:36Speaker 8: On your show.
- 42:37Speaker 3: And in the Epstein thing.
- 42:38Speaker 8: Trump was mentioned in the Epstein files 38,000 times. Yeah, well...
- 42:45Speaker 8: His personal lawyer is now the head of the Department
- 42:51Speaker 8: of Justice.
- 42:52Speaker 2: Well, why didn't the Biden administration? But when Biden was
- 42:57Speaker 2: in charge and Trump wasn't, and the Democrats..
- 42:59Speaker 8: Let's not talk about Biden no more. This is the
- 43:02Speaker 8: Trump administration.
- 43:03Speaker 2: Well, why didn't the Biden administration do anything.
- 43:06Speaker 3: If he's in there?
- 43:07Speaker 8: This is the Trump administration.
- 43:09Speaker 3: Will you answer the question? You won't answer the question.
- 43:13Speaker 8: I know you've got to go.
- 43:14Speaker 2: You're right, I've got to go, because you won't answer
- 43:16Speaker 2: the question. It's a total waste of time. You want
- 43:19Speaker 2: to sit there and say, well, it's the Trump administration
- 43:22Speaker 2: and his guy's in charge. Okay, it is, and I agree.
- 43:26Speaker 2: Then why didn't the Biden administration do anything when they
- 43:29Speaker 2: were in charge? He's mentioned all these times in there. Okay, well,
- 43:34Speaker 2: why didn't they put anything out? You don't think with
- 43:37Speaker 2: all they've tried to do to derail a guy that
- 43:39Speaker 2: they wouldn't have done that if that wasn't the case?
- 43:44Speaker 2: The point that you're missing that I'm trying to say
- 43:46Speaker 2: to you is I don't give a damn from the
- 43:49Speaker 2: standpoint of a Republican or Democrat. As an American, I
- 43:52Speaker 2: don't support anybody that was engaged in that activity at all.
- 43:58Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me how wealthy they are, what
- 44:01Speaker 2: party they're with. If they were engaged in it, they
- 44:03Speaker 2: should be held accountable, just as the intelligence community should
- 44:07Speaker 2: be held accountable for launching something that would involve men
- 44:10Speaker 2: having sex with minor children. That's despicable. And the people
- 44:17Speaker 2: involved should be held accountable. But nobody has been charged
- 44:21Speaker 2: and gone to jail. And I'm not holding my breath
- 44:25Speaker 2: for anybody to be charged and go to jail. It's
- 44:28Speaker 2: not going to happen under Trump. It's not going to
- 44:30Speaker 2: happen under Biden. It didn't happen under Obama. They talk
- 44:34Speaker 2: about the Epstein class, and that's deeply troubling to me.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Just as I said to you what you cut me off,
- 44:40Speaker 2: Fauci and what he did and the cover-up he did
- 44:43Speaker 2: on COVID and how people died, nothing will happen to him.
- 44:46Speaker 3: We can have the hearings.
- 44:47Speaker 2: We can talk about the lies and all the stuff
- 44:50Speaker 2: that's coming out, but he won't go to jail. No
- 44:53Speaker 2: one's ever held accountable. It's all a bunch of talk.
- 44:56Speaker 2: The Russian hoax and what we went through for three
- 44:58Speaker 2: years and the nonsense that was there, nobody goes to jail.
- 45:02Speaker 2: It's all just talk, and it's like a double standard
- 45:05Speaker 2: of justice.
- 45:06Speaker 3: Stay tuned. Rockport Wealth Truth and Investing Program is next.