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MUSIC STAR D4VD THROWN IN SEGREGATION, NEW JAIL, AFTER GRISLY MURDER OF CELESTE, 13 · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace music star D four VD
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Speaker 1: aka David Anthony Burke in the last hours, thrown into segregation,
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Speaker 1: had to move jails after charges come down regarding the
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Speaker 1: grizzly murder and dismemberment of a thirteen year old girl,
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Speaker 1: Celeste Revas. Good evening, I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories.
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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for being with us as
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Speaker 1: we go to air tonight. David Anthony Burke aka D
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Speaker 1: four VD, thrown into segregation, had to move jails after
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Speaker 1: charges and arrest in a grizzly murder of a then
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Speaker 1: thirteen year old girl, and the allegations are disturbing. According
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Speaker 1: to the prosecution, he murdered her with a sharp object
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Speaker 1: because she threatened to come forward about their sex relationship,
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Speaker 1: knowing it would destroy his music career. Why thrown into segregation?
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Speaker 1: Straight out to Kaitlin Becker, senior national correspondent New York
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Speaker 1: Post and host of a hit Me podcast and Why
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Speaker 1: Post cast, Caitlin, thank you for being with us. Why segregation?
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Speaker 2: Well, Nancy, it's because of his notoriety. They're keeping him
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Speaker 2: protected because he's a well known person. Now I use
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Speaker 2: that term as loosely as I possibly can. I think
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Speaker 2: it's this case that is really added to his notoriety.
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Speaker 2: I mean, he wasn't exactly a household name coming into
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Speaker 2: this investigation. But within the system, it does seem that
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Speaker 2: they're a bit concerned that something could happen to him
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Speaker 2: if he was maybe in Gen Pop or with some
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Speaker 2: of the other inmates while he's awaiting trial, because of
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Speaker 2: course he did not get out on bail because these
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Speaker 2: these charges are so incredible egregious, So it's definitely for
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Speaker 2: his protection. I do wonder how much that has to
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Speaker 2: do with just the optics and the fact that he
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Speaker 2: has a crack defense team of celebrity attorneys who would
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Speaker 2: really hammer them if anything happened to him behind bars,
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Speaker 2: So he is segregated. He's alone just basically because he's
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Speaker 2: kind of famous.
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Speaker 1: Once of the jail D four VD is now segregated
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Speaker 1: from other inmates for being a quote note worthy person.
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Speaker 1: Now you mentioned that he may be more popular behind
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Speaker 1: bars than he is on the outside, But isn't it
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Speaker 1: true he was pulling in millions of dollars and had
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Speaker 1: just launched his worldwide withered tour when Celeste's body was
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Speaker 1: found in two different trash bags, her head in one
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Speaker 1: trash bag. Actually they're called bodybags, so I'm not sure
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Speaker 1: they're trash bags, and the rest of her body dismembered,
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Speaker 1: and the second bag in his front the front trunk
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Speaker 1: of his test. Isn't that true? Just before that happened,
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Speaker 1: he was leaving on a world tour.
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Speaker 2: That's exactly right, Nancy. He was certainly an up and comer.
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Speaker 2: He was on the upswing of his career, Like I said,
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Speaker 2: not a household name yet, but definitely in the hip
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Speaker 2: hop world and in that circle, someone that people knew,
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Speaker 2: and all of those things that you just mentioned right
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Speaker 2: there are going to come into play in this case.
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Speaker 2: It was him being on the upswing in his career,
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Speaker 2: it was the money that he was making at the time,
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Speaker 2: and it was this world tour that he was about
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Speaker 2: to embark on. The prosecutors believe factored into why he
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Speaker 2: ultimately allegedly slaughtered this girl, tore her apart, and stuffed
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Speaker 2: her into those bags. As you just laid out there,
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Speaker 2: the gruesomeness of the crime they're saying is all going
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Speaker 2: to go back to the fact that she was going
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Speaker 2: to allegedly expose their sexual relationship. I mean, she's a child,
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Speaker 2: She was a little girl in this case, and what
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Speaker 2: prosecutors believe is that she was going to come forward
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Speaker 2: and that he allegedly thought that would derail his career,
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Speaker 2: which obviously it would if that came out there, and
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Speaker 2: you know, I say obviously it would. But we've seen
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Speaker 2: our Kelly. We've seen things that happened with other domestic
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Speaker 2: violence and other accusations with with musicians, and sometimes it
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Speaker 2: doesn't derail their career. It seems like the last bastion.
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Speaker 1: Wait a minute, backer, hold on, where is Sean Puffy
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Speaker 1: comes aka Diddy? Right now tonight? Where is he? You
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Speaker 1: know what? You're right?
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Speaker 2: This may mean a change of the tide when it
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Speaker 2: comes to how hip hop stars and how musicians treated.
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Speaker 1: Prison jail, j o I l cee I Correctional Institute, prison,
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Speaker 1: the big house, the pokey, the can. That that's where
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Speaker 1: he is. Okay, yep, that's Diddy. Where is R Kelly tonight?
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Speaker 2: He's in prison?
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Speaker 1: But how long did it take to get there? You're
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Speaker 1: on cross exam right now? Okay, he's in jail a ka,
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Speaker 1: the big House, the can, the pokey cee I Correctional Institute, Right, Okay,
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Speaker 1: lock down, So that's Diddy, That is our Kelly. Where
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Speaker 1: is Winstein? May he rot in hell? Where's he? Tonight, Kitlyn?
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Speaker 2: He's in jail fighting for his release yet again.
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Speaker 1: Jail, jail, simple answer. And last, but certainly not least,
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Speaker 1: where's Epstein dead? He's dead with a little pitstop in
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Speaker 1: the MDC, the jail. So I don't know what you're
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Speaker 1: talking about that music stars can get away with sex
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Speaker 1: acts and in this case, murder and they get a
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Speaker 1: hall passed. Because that's not happening to Joseph Scott Morgan
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Speaker 1: joining US tonight, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University. He is
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Speaker 1: the author of a bestseller, Blood Beneath My Feet on Amazon.
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Speaker 1: He is the star of a hit podcast, much like
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Becker's in Why Postcast. His is Body Bags with
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Speaker 1: Ja to Scott Morgan, but for my purposes. He is
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Speaker 1: a death investigator who I first met over the phone,
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Speaker 1: and he and I were arguing because I wanted to
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Speaker 1: discovery and I wanted it then in a murder case,
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Speaker 1: and he didn't give it to me in a timely manner.
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Speaker 1: That's how I remember it. Joe Scott Morgan death investigator
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Speaker 1: with over ten thousand death investigations under his belt, of
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Speaker 1: all sorts of course, accident, natural causes, heart attack, stroke, cancer,
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Speaker 1: of course, homicide, suicide, and undecided. So he's seen it all.
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Speaker 1: Can we refresh Caitlin Becker's recollection as to why David
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Speaker 1: Anthony Burke AKAD four VD the music Star may can
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Speaker 1: not be getting out of jail anytime soon? Describe how
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Speaker 1: this little girl's body was found. But wait a minute,
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Speaker 1: hold it does Scott listen to this.
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Speaker 3: The second is a special circumstance, being that this murder
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Speaker 3: was committed for financial gain. As the evidence will show
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Speaker 3: in court, the financial gain was for mister Burke to
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Speaker 3: maintain his very lucrative musical career that Celeste was threatening.
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Speaker 3: The third charge, in addition to lying in wait and
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Speaker 3: for financial gain, is murdering a witness to an investigation.
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Speaker 3: In this particular case, as the evidence will come out
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Speaker 3: in court, the witness to the investigation was Celeste, and
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Speaker 3: the investigation was into the lewde and lascivious sexual acts
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Speaker 3: committed by mister Burke that is the subject of count
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Speaker 3: two of this complaint. Celeste, while she was under fourteen
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Speaker 3: years old.
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Speaker 1: Just come, Morgan, I just wanted you to get the
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Speaker 1: flavor of the chargers. This is not just murder. This
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Speaker 1: is not justice, membery, which is your baillywick. It is
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Speaker 1: with a minor leude and Lassvius acts on a thirteen
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Speaker 1: year old girl that much liked you. Cut and I
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Speaker 1: investigated this together, the case of Nicole Lovell. Do you
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Speaker 1: remember that thirteen year old little girl that was having
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Speaker 1: with a much older college star David Eisenhower, track star, valedictorian,
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Speaker 1: aspiring architect blah blah blah, having with a thirteen year
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Speaker 1: old girl, saying he wanted to marry her and have children.
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Speaker 1: Then when she said she was going to tell people
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Speaker 1: about their relationship and their love, she ends up dead
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Speaker 1: on the side of the road, butt naked, wipe down
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Speaker 1: with alcohol wipes. Yeah, he's behind bars on life without parole.
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Speaker 4: And let's get something straight right from the top. This
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Speaker 4: is not with a minor. This is okay, and this
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Speaker 4: has been its brutal. Hey, you know what happened in
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Speaker 4: that car park when those investigators opened the lid on
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Speaker 4: that front after they had been told that there was
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Speaker 4: a foul odor. Let me tell you how this works.
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Speaker 4: In our world, in the world of medical legal death investigation,
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Speaker 4: when they opened that fronk, there would have been a
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Speaker 4: smell that rolled out and it assaulted everybody around there.
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Speaker 4: I've been here. I've been there for countless cases like
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Speaker 4: this where you have remains that are found in trunks
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Speaker 4: and you know what else, Nancy, not only did that
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Speaker 4: assault the investigators when they opened it up, it was
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Speaker 4: also insects. There were flies that came out of that environment,
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Speaker 4: probably lighted on the investigators. That happens a lot. People
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Speaker 4: don't understand that. And what they observed was one bag
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Speaker 4: specifically that they're talking about that was covered with insects.
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Speaker 4: You've got another bag that's contained in there, and contained
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Speaker 4: within the bags are all that remains of Celeste. This
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Speaker 4: is a brutal killing. Now, when we think about what
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Speaker 4: the LA District Attorney said, and particularly in their releases,
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Speaker 4: I found it very compelling, Nancy, because they are talking
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Speaker 4: about that this is a death that occurred with the utility,
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Speaker 4: with the utility of a sharp weapon. Now, that can
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Speaker 4: mean any number of things. That can mean that she
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Speaker 4: was stabbed, it can mean that she was cut or incized.
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Speaker 4: But also coupled with that and one of the things
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Speaker 4: that they're faced with at this moment, Tom, and it's
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Speaker 4: going to be confusing for some people, is that you've
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Speaker 4: got dismemberment going on. So one thing happens before death, obviously,
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Speaker 4: the other happens after death. So they've got all of
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Speaker 4: these injuries and insults to the body. And also couple
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Speaker 4: that with the fact that you have a body that
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Speaker 4: was so disrespected and abused. This is the abuse of
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Speaker 4: a corpse that they're going to have a really hard
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Speaker 4: time trying to explain this to a jury. This is
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Speaker 4: going to be a very detailed, highly detailed forensic case.
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Speaker 4: We're going to hear a lot about tool marks. We're
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Speaker 4: going to hear a lot about hemorrhage. We're going to
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Speaker 4: hear a lot, probably in my humble opinion, about entomology,
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Speaker 4: because where has she been all of this time? Nancy
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Speaker 4: and I think the insects are going to lead back
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Speaker 4: to possibly possibly the flow of him moving this body around.
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Speaker 4: You can't sell me on the fact that he took
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Speaker 4: her body and left it in the front for the
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Speaker 4: entire time. You know, I think we're hearing that she
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Speaker 4: was last seeing April twenty third, not found until well
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Speaker 4: into September. So I think that the body was moved around.
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Speaker 4: I don't think that she was dismembered initially. So where
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Speaker 4: did he have the body? Was he moving around the house?
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Speaker 4: And he's trying to make a decision about what in
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Speaker 4: the world do I do with her now after I've
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Speaker 4: murdered a child.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace. Steve Fisher joining me right now,
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Speaker 1: I'm hearing in my ear joining us out of San Bernardino, California.
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Speaker 1: He is a missing person's private investigator, search and rescue specialist,
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Speaker 1: owner of Search Investigations, and he has individually added evidence
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Speaker 1: to this case by surveilling and collecting Ringham door cam
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Speaker 1: surveillance cam within the Hollywood Hills neighborhood, indicating that def
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Speaker 1: VIDs Tesla was moved multiple times around the neighborhood so
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Speaker 1: as to avoid detection. For instance, an abandoned cart right
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Speaker 1: in front of your house, how many days you're going
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Speaker 1: to put up with that before you all to get
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Speaker 1: it towed? To avoid that, the car would be moved
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Speaker 1: around and around and around, Like what is that game
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Speaker 1: where you walk around the chairs and when the music
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Speaker 1: stops playing, everybody's got to sit down really quickly that game,
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Speaker 1: except it was with his tesla with the dead body
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Speaker 1: in it. Steve Fisher, in addition to discovering that information,
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Speaker 1: handing it over to law enforcement, and searching the home yourself,
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Speaker 1: you have created a timeline which I find extremely probative.
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Speaker 1: Could you explain your timeline and why you have come
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Speaker 1: up with those particular dates and times.
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Speaker 5: Well, it actually has a lot to do with what
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Speaker 5: Joseph was just saying. I became really interested in the
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Speaker 5: time between prosecutors seem fairly certain that May I'm sorry,
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Speaker 5: April twenty third is the date that she was likely
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Speaker 5: lured and killed by him, and that May fifth is
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Speaker 5: a day of dismemberment, and building a timeline around that
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Speaker 5: to see what his actions were right before and then
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Speaker 5: after and then around the dismemberment time, and he gets interesting,
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Speaker 5: he leaves, you know. April twenty third is the day
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Speaker 5: that they're literally announcing that Whither Tour is happening, and
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Speaker 5: the next day it's one night at twenty fourth he's
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Speaker 5: gone playing to New York for a three day music
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Speaker 5: pop up in New York, and so he has a
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Speaker 5: very short window of time not only unfortunately kill her,
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Speaker 5: but also figure out what he's wanting to do with
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Speaker 5: that body, because he doesn't dismember her if thet's correct,
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Speaker 5: until you know, May fifth, and that's a big window
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Speaker 5: of ton. His stores are somewhere, and that's what we're
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Speaker 5: trying to figure out through the timeline. You know, on
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Speaker 5: May fifth, this varies back in La. He posts from
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Speaker 5: downtown in La at about eleven pm at night, and
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Speaker 5: it makes you wonder, like some of the pictures that
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Speaker 5: we found on that the camera card that he left
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Speaker 5: behind him selsper in downtown and make sure you wonder
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Speaker 5: if there's a nextus downtown La if she was stored there.
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Speaker 1: Let's take a look in depth at your timeline. April
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Speaker 1: twenty three. Prosecutors alleged Celeste arrived the evening of April
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Speaker 1: twenty three, two D four D's rented mansion there in
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Speaker 1: Hollywood Hills. The withered world toward tickets up for pre sale. Okay,
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? On TikTok we see him promoting
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Speaker 1: your prayers have been answered. It's finally here. These are
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Speaker 1: sorts of celest in life. Next day, April twenty four,
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Speaker 1: the tickets officially go on sale. He travels from LA
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Speaker 1: to New York City. Now that is inferred because the
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Speaker 1: next day he had a New York City pop up event.
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Speaker 1: April twenty five, Withered dark Room Interscope released debuted at
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Speaker 1: number thirteen on the Billboard two hundred. That's to you,
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Speaker 1: Caitlin Becker, number thirteen on the Billboard two hundred. That
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Speaker 1: ain't shabby, Caitlin. He wasn't a household name.
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Speaker 2: He's not Diddy, he's not r Kelly, he's not jay Z.
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Speaker 2: Before he was accused of murder or suspected in this murder,
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many people outside of the music
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Speaker 2: world would have been able to tell you who he was.
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Speaker 2: That was only the point that I was trying to
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Speaker 2: make there. And he certainly wasn't up and comer. He
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Speaker 2: certainly was on the upswing of his career, and like
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Speaker 2: I said, that is a big reason why prosecutors believe
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Speaker 2: that he did this to her, that he massacred this girl.
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Speaker 2: And I was not saying under any circumstances that I
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Speaker 2: thought that this was a pit stop before he was
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Speaker 2: getting out of prison. I was just noting that he
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Speaker 2: has a crack defense team, major major defense team. He's
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Speaker 2: being rerepped by Blair Burke, who in Hollywood is one
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Speaker 2: of the biggest names out there. She's worked with Lindsay Lohan,
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Speaker 2: Britney Spears, Harvey Weinstein, so he has quite a team
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Speaker 2: behind him there. And I think that if I know
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Speaker 2: Blair Burke the way I do covering her for all
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Speaker 2: these years, she's going to take any opportunity to be
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Speaker 2: able to poke holes in just the most minor places
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Speaker 2: in the prosecution's case to try to get this guy
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Speaker 2: out back out in the world, which is her entire purpose.
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Speaker 2: And that is why I think they made the choice
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Speaker 2: to put him in solitary ultimately, because he is notorious.
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Speaker 2: He's more notorious now that he's been involved in this,
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Speaker 2: in this crime and in this slaying, and so you gotta,
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Speaker 2: you know, you gotta keep him separate because something happens,
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Speaker 2: She's going to use it to her benefit.
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Speaker 1: If something happens, in other words, he's killed behind bars,
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Speaker 1: she won't have a job anyt more. It'll be over.
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Speaker 1: She'll be representing his estate. So let me follow up
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Speaker 1: on what you were just saying. He's at the top,
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Speaker 1: in the top twenty on the two hundred billboard, but
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Speaker 1: think back no one at one time had heard of
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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton or the Beatles. I mean, I could go
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Speaker 1: on and then suddenly they're a huge, mega hit known worldwide.
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Speaker 1: What do you make of the timeline, Caitlin, Oh, hey,
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Speaker 1: before I get back to the timeline, you mentioned his
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Speaker 1: elate legal team. You mentioned Blair Burke. Who else is
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Speaker 1: on the team.
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Speaker 2: He has a huge legal team behind him. The first
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Speaker 2: person I saw and focused in on was was Blair Burke.
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Speaker 6: There.
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Speaker 2: That's the big name that stuck out to me, and
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Speaker 2: that is who if I was accused of something in Hollywood,
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Speaker 2: that's the person that I would want representing me. And
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Speaker 2: to your point on the timeline, the timeline is so important.
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Speaker 2: The tour, the tickets, the pop ups, the travel, all
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Speaker 2: of that happening in almost the immediate future to when people,
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Speaker 2: prosecutors and investigators believe this girl was killed and dismembered
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Speaker 2: is pivotal because it goes to, at least I think, motive.
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Speaker 2: It goes to motive, and it goes to trying to
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Speaker 2: clean up what could have been a messy situation that
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Speaker 2: could have hampered his career and stopped that flow of money,
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Speaker 2: those millions of dollars that were coming into him and
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Speaker 2: ultimately kind of screwed him over. Ironically, he's probably going
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Speaker 2: to prison for the rest of his life, and while
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Speaker 2: it's probably likely won't happen, might face the death penalty,
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Speaker 2: not that I think that's going to come to fruition,
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Speaker 2: but I think the timeline is one of the most
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Speaker 2: telling reasons as to why this went down, how it
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Speaker 2: went down, and when it went down.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us renowned psychoanalyst out of this
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Speaker 1: jurisdiction LA. She is the author of deal Breakers. You
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Speaker 1: can see her now on Bravo and Peacock and you
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Speaker 1: can find her at Dodtor Bethany Marshall dot com Dtor
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Speaker 1: Bethany think about it. If Steve Fisher is correct and
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Speaker 1: based on the timeline we're going through, you'll see why
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Speaker 1: I believe he is correct. And Steve, when we get
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Speaker 1: back to the timeline, I want you to layer over
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Speaker 1: digital evidence to prove your theory overlaid with the timeline,
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Speaker 1: because I think that's what the cops are doing. That
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Speaker 1: said his theory, Doctor Bethany, is that last time celest
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Speaker 1: Seen is entering his home April twenty three that evening,
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Speaker 1: she's never seen alive again. He thinks that she was
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Speaker 1: killed around that time, and that the body was stashed
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Speaker 1: somewhere then later dismembered. Now keep in mind also that
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher can detail a huge burn pit, an indoor
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Speaker 1: type of oven that was found still in the box
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Speaker 1: in his garage, and farm implements that could be used
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Speaker 1: to destroy or dismember someone, to kill or dismember someone.
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Speaker 1: All that said, the psyche, the frame of mind one
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Speaker 1: must have to kill and then go to a pop
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Speaker 1: up in New York and act like nothing's wrong while
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Speaker 1: the body is cooling somewhere.
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Speaker 7: You know, Nancy, this data takes nerves of Still, this
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Speaker 7: data is rich, Nancy. And what I hear in this
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Speaker 7: First of all, let's go back to the T shirt
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Speaker 7: or the shirts that he's selling with blood splattered all
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Speaker 7: over it, the song called romantic homicide. He is a
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Speaker 7: young man, he's twenty years old, and his loose band
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Speaker 7: of characters around him also have very young brains. So
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Speaker 7: the way they plan this out was not slick. These
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Speaker 7: are not slick criminals, Nancy, These are kids. And you
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Speaker 7: know what, Nancy, what's interesting to me is that because
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Speaker 7: these are all kids and not slick criminals. Kids are
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Speaker 7: easily scared. All these other kids in the house, They're
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Speaker 7: not going to be that loyal to him. They would
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Speaker 7: rather be witnesses than be defendants. So there's going to
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Speaker 7: be a lot of information that comes out in court
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Speaker 7: and this will go will this case will close quickly.
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Speaker 7: This is a new trend, Nancy. This is swift justice,
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Speaker 7: not victims who are being predated on for years before
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Speaker 7: the perpotator comes to the notice of law enforcement.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace back to Steve Fisher's timeline,
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Speaker 1: and remember all this is happening when, according to Steve Fisher,
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Speaker 1: he believes Celeste is already dead. The album drop April
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Speaker 1: twenty five. According to Steve Fisher's timeline, She's already dead.
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Speaker 1: Withered released now at number thirteen on Billboard two hundred.
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Speaker 1: Live appearance pop up New York City's Union Square performs
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Speaker 1: after Life, How Ironic for the first time at the
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Speaker 1: band Lab pop up acoustic set. DFOURVD visibly breaks down
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Speaker 1: crying mid song while performing after Life April twenty five.
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Speaker 1: Here's a shot of that. There is Defour VD breaking
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Speaker 1: down crying April twenty five in New York performing for
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Speaker 1: the first time after life. Now to Stave Fisher, you
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Speaker 1: believe she's already dead while he's conducting all of these performances.
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Speaker 5: I do. And then that's what prosecutors have told us
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Speaker 5: in their press conference and the charging documents that the
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Speaker 5: April twenty third, he invites her over to the house
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Speaker 5: and they believe in she's never seen again. And then
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Speaker 5: May fifth, I don't know exactly how they got that date.
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Speaker 5: I assume this is from people that are talking though,
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Speaker 5: But May fifth is the date they believe she's demember
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Speaker 5: and that's a wide gap of time and he's not
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Speaker 5: even in town. That makes it very interesting at least.
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Speaker 5: And you know, one thing you think it's gonna important
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Speaker 5: here is very simple things. You know, since she's fourteen
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Speaker 5: years old, did she get over to the house because
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Speaker 5: she didn't have the ability to drive herself over or anything.
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Speaker 5: So did he get her a new bird that's going
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Speaker 5: to show document by coming over, or did somebody bring
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Speaker 5: her over and then eve and never took her back
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Speaker 5: to where she came from. Things like that would be
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Speaker 5: interesting to find out.
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Speaker 1: Question to you regarding the timeline, there was that and
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Speaker 1: guys very quickly, could you describe that it's basically an
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Speaker 1: incinerator that you observed in the home and those implements
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Speaker 1: that could be used to dismember someone.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, so we found in the house what it had
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Speaker 5: been delivered. There was a burn cage, which is if
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Speaker 5: it's marketed as an incinerator. They're often used on farms
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Speaker 5: to incinerate and everything from trash to animal carcasses, and
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Speaker 5: it burns up to sixteen hundred degrees and that's what
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Speaker 5: it's advertised as. And then we also found a chainsaw
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Speaker 5: and I've been used, but we found a chainsaw. And
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Speaker 5: you know the how the rental house berst of all
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Speaker 5: comes with yard people and everything like that, it's not
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Speaker 5: like you're responsible for doing it. And even if you were,
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Speaker 5: the way the law is and stuff that you have,
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Speaker 5: professionals use a chainsaw there. So put together with what's happened, it's,
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Speaker 5: you know, it makes you wonder if there were several
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Speaker 5: options they were putting on the table from possibly getting
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Speaker 5: rid of her her body and complete and I'll never
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Speaker 5: understand how she was just left in the car like that.
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Speaker 1: It will be I'll be curious to find out when
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Speaker 1: he ordered the burn cage to Joanna Neevis joining us,
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Speaker 1: a renowned criminal defense attorney, founder of the Nieva's Law firm.
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Speaker 1: They're in that jurisdiction of California. You can find her
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Speaker 1: at the Nievs Law Firm dot com. Joanna. If what
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Speaker 1: Fisher's timeline bears is born out, if it's born out
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Speaker 1: to be true, how would the four VD David Anthony
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Speaker 1: Burke explain that he orders a home incinerator a burn
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Speaker 1: cage and then she ends up dead within twenty four
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Speaker 1: thirty six hours.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely think it speaks to that forty plus
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Speaker 8: terror bites of information that we're all missing, like did
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Speaker 8: he actually make this order? Is he the one that
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Speaker 8: paid for it? When did that order take place? Was
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Speaker 8: it before or after the alleged April twenty third date.
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Speaker 8: I think there's so much for us to still discover.
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Speaker 8: Miss Burke asked for discovery informally on the first day
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Speaker 8: of the appearance. There's so much data that's out there
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Speaker 8: that the prosecution is relying on. One thing that's advantageous
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Speaker 8: for us is that they're pushing for a speedy prelim.
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Speaker 8: It's set on day three of ten and hopefully it
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Speaker 8: doesn't go beyond that ten day limit, so that the
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Speaker 8: public who's so invested in this can start seeing what
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Speaker 8: the prosecution is relying on, because honestly, the purchase of
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Speaker 8: a burncage may speak to the mutilation of the corpse,
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Speaker 8: but does not necessarily speak to the actual homicide.
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Speaker 1: Steve Fisher, do you remember that late night Santa Barbara
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Speaker 1: trip that we know D four VD David Anthony Burke
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Speaker 1: took around two o'clock in the morning something like that.
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Speaker 1: He goes up into a heavily forested area. Do you
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Speaker 1: believe there's any chance that is where the body was dismembered,
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Speaker 1: then put into body bags and brought back.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I go back and forth, and then I'll tell
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Speaker 5: you why. Because we didn't find any evidence of the
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Speaker 5: Santa Barbara trip. We did find some photographic evidence that
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Speaker 5: he spent time in the National Forest, which was still
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Speaker 5: inside La County. But you know, the charging documents themselves,
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Speaker 5: and I understand this is you can probably explain this
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Speaker 5: better name. One might not have to be exactly on this,
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Speaker 5: but they say in the County of Los Angeles she
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Speaker 5: was dismembered, So I don't know. We didn't find anything
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Speaker 5: about the Santa Barbara trip. I just can't speak to that.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're right, yeah, there's a jurisdictional issue there, So
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Speaker 1: let me refer you to his travelings within La County.
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Speaker 1: Would that include a forested area?
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Speaker 5: It would, And I could see that happening out there
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Speaker 5: because it's easier to you know, not have that evidence.
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Speaker 5: But I I don't understand how she ended up where
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Speaker 5: she ended up after being dismembered.
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Speaker 1: Here's my question back to you, which I'm going to
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Speaker 1: go to you on Bethany because you know, go through
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Speaker 1: all this managed to elude justice for so many months,
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Speaker 1: and he has a body in his trunk of his
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Speaker 1: car and they're moving in around the neighborhood and they're
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Speaker 1: caught on video on door key him doing it. But first,
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Speaker 1: Joe Scott Morgan, at the location of her dismemberment, if
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Speaker 1: it is in nature, is there a way even now
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Speaker 1: that a cadaver do doll could hit on it?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: I think that it's going to be difficult because the
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Speaker 4: remains obviously have been removed. However, however, if they can
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Speaker 4: zero in on a particular area, and you know, Nancy,
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Speaker 4: just go with me here, hear what I'm saying. If
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Speaker 4: that is the case, she would have already been in
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Speaker 4: a rather advanced state of decomposition when she would have
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Speaker 4: been removed allegedly to this Santa Barbara location. Okay, So
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Speaker 4: any kind I don't know how to put this delicately,
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Speaker 4: but any kind of dismemberment that would have gone on
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Speaker 4: out there would have left traces in a specific area. Okay,
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Speaker 4: and I'm talking about bodily fluids, I'm talking about bone dust,
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Speaker 4: all these sorts of things that we encounter along the way.
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Speaker 4: Could there be a remnant out there? Potentially, but it
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Speaker 4: is not going to be a strong hit because I
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Speaker 4: know where you're going with this. You're thinking, can we
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Speaker 4: bring cadaver dogs out there. It's worth a shot to
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Speaker 4: do it, but I think that there's going to be
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Speaker 4: less of a chance of finding something out in that
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Speaker 4: remote location. If they can specifically identify it, I think
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Speaker 4: there'll be less of a chance as opposed.
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Speaker 5: Back to the house to.
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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall, back to Steve Fisher's observation, why not
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Speaker 1: just bury her body where it was dismembered? You know
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Speaker 1: that house, it was like a zoo. There were people
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Speaker 1: in and out all the time, according to Steve Fisher,
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Speaker 1: and I guarantee you there you go. That is the
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Speaker 1: home rented by D four VD. These are from our
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Speaker 1: friends at tmz dr Bethany. How could he affect a
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Speaker 1: dismemberment in that house with people in and out, barging
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Speaker 1: in and out of his bedroom? Impossible? He gets the
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Speaker 1: burn cage, can't use it, too many witnesses. So one
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Speaker 1: working theory is he dismembered her in a heavily forested area.
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Speaker 1: Why did he bring her body back into body bags
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Speaker 1: in his tazla?
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Speaker 7: You know, Nancy, I agree with your clinical assessment of stupid.
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Speaker 7: Stupid is written all over this. And you know what,
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Speaker 7: twenty year olds don't talk to each other. They text
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Speaker 7: each other, they take videos and send them to each other.
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Speaker 7: So what's going to come out in the digital of it,
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Speaker 7: as in court, is the story of why she ended
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Speaker 7: up in the front rather than buried somewhere and where
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Speaker 7: she was dismembered, And the mystery is going to be solved.
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Speaker 7: But it's still a mystery now. And what I think
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Speaker 7: happened is that there was probably a lot of infighting
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Speaker 7: in that group, and that just a few of the
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Speaker 7: mini band of characters knew what was happening, so he
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Speaker 7: allegedly kills her, goes to his pop up, leaves her
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Speaker 7: in the front, and then there's a big argument about
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Speaker 7: well where do we put her? Do we bury her,
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Speaker 7: do we leave her in the front, what do we
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Speaker 7: do with her? And it's just like idiots, you know,
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Speaker 7: not being able to make up their minds, so they
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Speaker 7: just move the car around incessantly. But do you know
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Speaker 7: what I'm hearing as a possible defense strategy in court.
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Speaker 7: And I'm not an attorney, I'm just a psychoanalyst. They're
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Speaker 7: gonna say, Burke is going to say that's not a
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Speaker 7: burn cage. That was a smoker. They were going to
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Speaker 7: smoke salmon. You know, they just ordered the wrong piece
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Speaker 7: of equipment. But back to the timeline, Nancy.
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Speaker 1: They didn't know.
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Speaker 7: What to do with the body, so they just made
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Speaker 7: really idiotic twenty year old decisions and then texted incessantly
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Speaker 7: so the mystery will be solved.
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Speaker 1: Twenty one years old Dr Bethany twenty one, old enough
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Speaker 1: to vote, old enough to drink, old enough to buy cigarettes,
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Speaker 1: old enough to know better, old enough to get the
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Speaker 1: death penalty in California to Dave Mack joining us clarify
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Speaker 1: what is defourvd's net worth And when we're talking about
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Speaker 1: the date of death, if she's so decomposed and they
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Speaker 1: can't get a date of death, you believe you know
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Speaker 1: how they have pegged it on April twenty three.
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Speaker 6: Nancy, bottom line on his financials right now, David Anthony
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Speaker 6: Burke has a net worth loosely between two and three
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Speaker 6: million dollars. Do remember, Nancy, that his money did not
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Speaker 6: start with signing the record deal. He had built a
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Speaker 6: social media following using TikTok and YouTube and things like
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Speaker 6: that to develop his following and develop his money, and
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Speaker 6: so he's been making money for some time. But Q
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Speaker 6: to three million is what he has right about now.
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Speaker 6: As for the pinpointing April twenty third as the time
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Speaker 6: of death and then the May fifth dismemberment. To get
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Speaker 6: to those dates, Nancy, law enforcement has you know, we
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Speaker 6: know that they had the incredible digital breakdown of the timeline.
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Speaker 1: We didn't know what it led to.
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Speaker 6: We just knew that they were that. Investigators said that
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Speaker 6: D four VD made a late night trip to Santa
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Speaker 6: Barbara County in the late spring of twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 6: That's what they told everybody. So now they pinpointed that
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Speaker 6: D four VD invited Celeste, lured her to his home
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Speaker 6: April twenty third, and killed her. That's what law enforcement alleges.
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Speaker 6: So they obviously have information, whether it be digital from
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Speaker 6: cell phones, we've got cameras everywhere, but apparently, based on
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Speaker 6: the wording lured her to the home. The last was
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Speaker 6: not living with D four VD at the time of
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Speaker 6: her death. That means she was staying with somebody else
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Speaker 6: because she's a child, she's only four keing.
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Speaker 1: You don't know that she was certainly not at home.
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Speaker 1: He could have lured her home from choir practice for
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Speaker 1: all I know. That doesn't mean she was living elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Scott Morgan thoughts.
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Speaker 4: Oh, listen, I think that they have specific information, and
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Speaker 4: I concur I think that somebody has rolled over on this.
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Speaker 4: It's just you know, when you get through specific dates
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Speaker 4: like this, and particularly when you're going to Nancy, you're
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Speaker 4: talking about a specific date for a dismemberment Nancy. In
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Speaker 4: all of my years, I have never heard anything like this.
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Speaker 4: And I cover on body bags. I cover a lot
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Speaker 4: of dismemberments. Brother Dave and I do, and we've seen
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Speaker 4: an uptick in these things, believe it or not. However,
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Speaker 4: to that point, who, how in the world would you
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Speaker 4: know that? Because that's not like you're necessarily tracking it
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Speaker 4: with some kind of electronics or something like that. We're
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Speaker 4: talking about an action that involves using tools to essentially
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Speaker 4: rip apart a child's body. You know, how are you
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Speaker 4: gonna come into that information? I think that they have
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Speaker 4: found a pressure point and they are applying pressure to
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Speaker 4: that point. I am. I am just glued. I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: I'm gonna hang on every word that you have to
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Speaker 4: say over the next few days, because I think more
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Speaker 4: is to come in this case. We're going to find
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Speaker 4: out far more specifics than we have right now.
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Speaker 1: Andy Caitlin Beckery joining US senior national correspondent a New
35:32
Speaker 1: York Post. She is the star of a hit podcast,
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Speaker 1: New York Post Cast. Caitlin, do you believe the preliminary
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Speaker 1: hearing will go forward tomorrow?
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Speaker 2: I agree that it's probably going to get continued. It's
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Speaker 2: interesting that they did it so quickly. His team requested
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Speaker 2: that it gets sped up, so to on one hand,
35:54
Speaker 2: say they don't have any discovery, they have no information
35:56
Speaker 2: beyond that three page report and then to say they
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Speaker 2: want the prelim. I do think that it's probably going
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Speaker 2: to get continued, so we won't get a ton of
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Speaker 2: information tomorrow. However, we might glean something about the medical
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Speaker 2: examiner's report that the judge did agree to release, so
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Speaker 2: that could give us a little bit of more information.
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Speaker 2: And to everyone else's point about people rolling over and
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Speaker 2: not having that hard evidence, I've covered the celebrity world
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Speaker 2: for so long. Young celebrities, particularly celebrities who are up
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Speaker 2: and coming, they tend to have a massive crowd around them,
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Speaker 2: and they tend not to want to do things alone
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Speaker 2: or for themselves. So I think it's impossible that this
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Speaker 2: man would have gone through with all of these actions
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Speaker 2: single handedly. So people were there, People know something, and
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Speaker 2: as you said, they want to be witnesses, not defendants.
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Speaker 2: So it's going to come down to people turning on
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Speaker 2: him on the stand, and that is what I think
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Speaker 2: we're going to see moving forward.
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Speaker 1: So Joanna Nievis, veteran trial lawyer, joining us from this
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Speaker 1: jurisdiction of California, you know, is straight out of ACEPS fables.
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Speaker 1: Be careful what you ask, my dear, for you will
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Speaker 1: surely get They said, speed up, speed up, we want
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Speaker 1: to prove our innocence. So now they're getting it. Preliminary
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Speaker 1: hearing set for tomorrow morning. Why would they do.
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Speaker 8: That Because he has a right to a speedy prelim
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Speaker 8: at this point to happen within ten days. He can
37:14
Speaker 8: also wave that and it can happen within sixty and
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Speaker 8: trial can happen within sixty days as well. So I
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Speaker 8: think what they're doing is trying to get all of
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Speaker 8: the Brady material that they can. Discovery is due at
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Speaker 8: least thirty days prior to trial, but when it comes
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Speaker 8: to prelim, the DA is responsible for turning over all
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Speaker 8: exculpatory favorable impeachment type information, witness statements, and so they
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Speaker 8: should have that in hand so that they're able to
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Speaker 8: have a fair put on a fair defense at prelim
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Speaker 8: and be able to cross examine those witnesses. And so
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Speaker 8: when you keep that ten day window, then at least
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Speaker 8: there's going to be an exchange of parts of the discovery,
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Speaker 8: and most of the time it's those critical parts of
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Speaker 8: discovery to help defend the case.
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Speaker 1: We wait as justice unfolds that prelim set for tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: Tomorrow morning, and we will be watching. If you know
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Speaker 1: or think you know anything regarding the death of this
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Speaker 1: young girl, Celeste Revos, please dial two one three four
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Speaker 1: eight six six eight nine zero, Repeat two one three
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Speaker 1: four eight six six eight nine zero. Good night, friend,