Latest / The Epstein Chronicles / Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell's Security Team Speaks Out After Her Arrest (9/12/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Were talking about the proposed bail package that Ghislaine Maxwell,
- 0:05Speaker 1: her husband, her family and friends, and her legal team
- 0:09Speaker 1: has proposed to Judge Allison Nathan to try and get
- 0:13Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell sprung as she awaits her hearing. Now, one
- 0:19Speaker 1: of the things we heard about in that bail package
- 0:22Speaker 1: was a security team, a a million dollars and their
- 0:30Speaker 1: reputation and what have you on the fact that Ghislaine
- 0:34Speaker 1: Maxwell will not come to harm if she gets bailed out.
- 0:38Speaker 1: So we have the word from a security company whose
- 0:42Speaker 1: name is redacted, by the way. And because this company,
- 0:46Speaker 1: who nobody even knows who they are, says that they're
- 0:50Speaker 1: going to protect Ghislaine Maxwell, that we should all just
- 0:53Speaker 1: accept their word at face value. and just move along
- 0:57Speaker 1: with it and say, okay, no problem. You guys are
- 1:01Speaker 1: more than capable of handling this monumental task. Well, that
- 1:08Speaker 1: same security company, they're saying now that they're scared that
- 1:13Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell is going to suffer the same fate as
- 1:16Speaker 1: Princess Diana. So if that's the case, why would you
- 1:20Speaker 1: want her out of jail, you epic ninnies? Pretty sure
- 1:23Speaker 1: she's not getting in a car anytime soon if she's
- 1:26Speaker 1: in jail. getting into a car crash. And furthermore, I
- 1:32Speaker 1: am sure that the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell is even
- 1:35Speaker 1: being mentioned in the same breath as Princess Diana is
- 1:40Speaker 1: going to have a whole cadre of people up in arms. Now,
- 1:44Speaker 1: as you all know, I am not some sort of royalist.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I really didn't follow the Diana situation when it occurred.
- 1:51Speaker 1: I didn't know much about her relationship with, uh, old
- 1:55Speaker 1: numbnuts who's about to become the king over there. And
- 1:59Speaker 1: I certainly didn't know anything about the new relationship she
- 2:02Speaker 1: was engaging in. But I do know this. Princess Diana,
- 2:08Speaker 1: from all reports, was a very good person. Decent, gentle, kind,
- 2:13Speaker 1: and everything that you would expect from a princess. Ghislaine Maxwell,
- 2:17Speaker 1: on the other hand, should not even be mentioned in
- 2:20Speaker 1: the same breath as Ghislaine Maxwell. That's like talking about,
- 2:25Speaker 1: to put it into football terms, that's like talking about
- 2:28Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf in the same breath that you're talking about
- 2:31Speaker 1: John Elway in. Just shouldn't occur, right? And that's the
- 2:34Speaker 1: case here. And for her security team to even dip
- 2:39Speaker 1: their toes in this kind of water is a bad strategy,
- 2:45Speaker 1: in my opinion. Plenty of other analogies that you could
- 2:50Speaker 1: have used. Plenty of other people you could have brought
- 2:53Speaker 1: up But bringing up Princess Diana and putting her in
- 2:56Speaker 1: the same category as Ghislaine Maxwell in any capacity is
- 3:01Speaker 1: probably not a winning strategy with the masses of people
- 3:07Speaker 1: who are following this case. Unlike myself, a lot of
- 3:12Speaker 1: people that are following this case followed the whole Diana story,
- 3:17Speaker 1: followed that whole entire ordeal. And those people are about
- 3:21Speaker 1: to be fired up hearing that this security team is
- 3:26Speaker 1: trying to even equate Ghislaine Maxwell to Princess Diana in
- 3:31Speaker 1: any capacity is not going to go over well. And
- 3:36Speaker 1: like I was saying a second ago, if you're so
- 3:38Speaker 1: worried that she's going to suffer the same fate as Diana,
- 3:42Speaker 1: then why in the hell would you want her out
- 3:44Speaker 1: of jail in the first place? Wouldn't jail be the
- 3:47Speaker 1: safest place for her? I mean, not if you're Jeffrey Epstein, obviously,
- 3:52Speaker 1: but you know, For Ghislaine Maxwell, I doubt that the
- 3:57Speaker 1: paparazzi is storming into the jail anytime soon to chase
- 4:03Speaker 1: her around the hallways where she'll collide with a wall
- 4:06Speaker 1: and hurt herself and die. I don't think that's going
- 4:10Speaker 1: to happen in jail. Much more of a chance of
- 4:12Speaker 1: that occurring, however, if she gets sprung. So I hope
- 4:15Speaker 1: that the prosecutors are wily enough to turn this sort
- 4:19Speaker 1: of strategy back in on them and use it against them.
- 4:26Speaker 1: If Allison Nathan grants another bail hearing, I would think
- 4:29Speaker 1: that we would see the prosecutors do something in that regard.
- 4:35Speaker 1: Meaning using this kind of nonsensical BS as ammunition against
- 4:42Speaker 1: the very people who brought it to the battlefield. So
- 4:47Speaker 1: let's jump into our article from the New York Post
- 4:50Speaker 1: and see what kind of whinging is occurring here. From
- 4:54Speaker 1: Camp Bipedal Serpent. This time. Headline. Ghislaine Maxwell's security. Fears
- 5:01Speaker 1: she may suffer the same fate. As Princess Diana. This
- 5:06Speaker 1: article was authored. By Rebecca Rosenberg. So again. What exactly
- 5:12Speaker 1: is it. That her legal team wants. They don't want her.
- 5:17Speaker 1: In solitary confinement. Because she has no access. To other people.
- 5:23Speaker 1: If you put her in the main line. They'd cry
- 5:25Speaker 1: that she should be in solitary confinement. And now they're saying, oh, well,
- 5:32Speaker 1: she'll suffer the same fate as Princess Diana because of
- 5:35Speaker 1: the media and the frenzy. Okay, well, if that's the case,
- 5:37Speaker 1: then let's keep her in jail. We'll keep her in
- 5:39Speaker 1: solitary confinement out of all of the options that have
- 5:43Speaker 1: been presented. That seems to be the safest assurance that
- 5:48Speaker 1: she does not come to any harm. So... I think
- 5:54Speaker 1: that we should just continue on the course we are on,
- 5:57Speaker 1: keep her incarcerated, and we won't have to worry about
- 6:02Speaker 1: all of these what-ifs then, right? It's like a controlled
- 6:07Speaker 1: environment for scientific tests. And that's what we have here,
- 6:13Speaker 1: a controlled environment where Ghislaine Maxwell can be kept and monitored.
- 6:18Speaker 1: It should continue on this course, in my opinion. Ghislaine
- 6:24Speaker 1: Maxwell's security guard whined in a new court filing that
- 6:28Speaker 1: the disgraced socialites, co-conspirator, general all-around scuzzbag, bipedal serpent, her
- 6:36Speaker 1: plight at the hands of the press is similar to
- 6:39Speaker 1: the harassment Princess Diana endured before her fatal car crash. Yeah,
- 6:45Speaker 1: let's get a few things straight, okay? Princess Diana wasn't
- 6:48Speaker 1: involved in trafficking of children. She wasn't accused of abusing
- 6:51Speaker 1: those children. And she certainly wasn't accused by anyone of
- 6:56Speaker 1: abusing children with Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, so let's just get
- 7:00Speaker 1: that out of the way. There is no equation here.
- 7:05Speaker 1: We can't equate the two. Princess Diana and Ghislaine Maxwell
- 7:09Speaker 1: are nothing alike. The situations are nothing alike. And the
- 7:13Speaker 1: hyperbole coming from the security firm and the security guard
- 7:17Speaker 1: is coming on thick. The security consultant, whose name is redacted,
- 7:25Speaker 1: said Maxwell 58 has been the target of aggressive reporters
- 7:30Speaker 1: and photographers desperate for a scoop. Well, that's what happens
- 7:34Speaker 1: when you have a high profile person such as Ghislaine Maxwell.
- 7:38Speaker 1: That's what happens when you have somebody who's accused of
- 7:40Speaker 1: the crimes that she's accused of. That's what you have
- 7:43Speaker 1: when you have somebody who is being protected by a
- 7:46Speaker 1: draconian NPA that has been roundly criticized and said shouldn't exist.
- 7:53Speaker 1: That is what you have, okay? And furthermore, if you
- 7:57Speaker 1: had her in some hotel somewhere, do you really think
- 8:00Speaker 1: that these same people that you're maligning wouldn't be lining
- 8:04Speaker 1: up in the streets doing the same exact thing? What
- 8:07Speaker 1: makes you think that she is any safer or she
- 8:10Speaker 1: has any less privacy in prison than she would have
- 8:14Speaker 1: sitting in some plush hotel room? According to you, there
- 8:18Speaker 1: will be an invasion of reporters there. You're giving the
- 8:21Speaker 1: legacy media a whole lot of credit, by the way.
- 8:25Speaker 1: They can't be bothered to get out of their tribalism.
- 8:28Speaker 1: They can't be bothered to get out of their worship
- 8:30Speaker 1: of 46. How dare you think that the legacy media would...
- 8:36Speaker 1: afford the resources that a story like this should get
- 8:41Speaker 1: how dare you think that that's never going to happen
- 8:44Speaker 1: okay the legacy media can't ruffle up enough interest in
- 8:48Speaker 1: this case to move the needle at all at this
- 8:52Speaker 1: point never mind camping out and causing a situation like
- 8:56Speaker 1: the one diana had unfortunately there's not enough interest from
- 9:00Speaker 1: the legacy media for that to occur in this case
- 9:03Speaker 1: so nice try This kind of behavior is not only harassing,
- 9:11Speaker 1: but can be life-threatening, he wrote in a letter submitted
- 9:14Speaker 1: as part of Maxwell's proposed $ 28. 5 million bail package. A
- 9:19Speaker 1: good example is in the case of Princess Diana, who
- 9:23Speaker 1: unfortunately lost her life due to press intrusion into her
- 9:27Speaker 1: personal space. Newsflash, asshole! There is no personal space where
- 9:33Speaker 1: your client is. There is no personal space to be invaded.
- 9:38Speaker 1: by the paparazzi where your employer is. So what exactly
- 9:43Speaker 1: is it that you're trying to prove here? What point
- 9:46Speaker 1: are you trying to make, sir, Mr. Redacted Security Guy?
- 9:52Speaker 1: Because from where I'm sitting, the safest place for Ghislaine
- 9:55Speaker 1: Maxwell is in the custody of the federal government. Diana,
- 10:03Speaker 1: Princess of Wales and the mother of Prince Harry and
- 10:05Speaker 1: Prince William, died in Paris in 1997 after her driver
- 10:10Speaker 1: crashed into a pillar while fleeing paparazzi. Again, if anyone
- 10:16Speaker 1: thinks that there's that much... furor over Ghislaine Maxwell and
- 10:20Speaker 1: there's that many people in the media and the paparazzi
- 10:24Speaker 1: that are looking to snap pictures and shit of her, boy,
- 10:27Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, I wish there was that much
- 10:30Speaker 1: interest in this case. I wouldn't have to spend so
- 10:33Speaker 1: much time on it if the legacy media would do
- 10:35Speaker 1: their damn job. I could work on other projects I
- 10:39Speaker 1: have going on, other things that are on the back burner,
- 10:42Speaker 1: but nope, here we are. And I, unlike the legacy media,
- 10:46Speaker 1: don't plan to leave a job half done. So I
- 10:52Speaker 1: wouldn't worry about there being all this interest and legacy
- 10:57Speaker 1: media outside of the house and the paparazzi chasing you
- 11:00Speaker 1: around in the Lincoln Tunnel, okay? I don't think it's
- 11:03Speaker 1: going to happen. You have nothing to worry about. And furthermore,
- 11:09Speaker 1: if you're really that worried, I think the best case
- 11:12Speaker 1: scenario is for her to just stay where she's at
- 11:16Speaker 1: right now. The security expert said he had served 25
- 11:21Speaker 1: years in the British military before he was contracted to
- 11:25Speaker 1: guard the UK's third richest person, whom he didn't identify
- 11:29Speaker 1: by name. Oh, welly, well, well, Mr. Big Shot Security Guy. What,
- 11:37Speaker 1: are we supposed to be impressed? So you spent 25
- 11:40Speaker 1: years in the military for the UK. Okay, great. What
- 11:44Speaker 1: does that mean to any of us? Should we really
- 11:46Speaker 1: care about that? I mean... What point are you trying
- 11:51Speaker 1: to prove that you've been in the military for 25 years?
- 11:56Speaker 1: You're Mr. Hotshot Security Guard? I protected the third richest
- 12:00Speaker 1: man in the UK. So basically what you're saying is
- 12:06Speaker 1: you have ample experience protecting the scummiest amongst us, huh?
- 12:11Speaker 1: You have ample experience providing security. for the biggest dirtbags
- 12:19Speaker 1: in society. Give yourself a round of applause, sir. At
- 12:25Speaker 1: the time of Maxwell's July 2nd arrest, an associate of
- 12:29Speaker 1: the security firm had been assigned to protect her from
- 12:32Speaker 1: overzealous media, according to the Manhattan federal filing. Overzealous media, huh?
- 12:37Speaker 1: Nobody could even find her. What sort of overzealous media
- 12:42Speaker 1: are we talking about here? The same overzealous media that
- 12:46Speaker 1: shows up to other arrests with their cameras ready to go?
- 12:50Speaker 1: The same overzealous media that was nowhere in sight when
- 12:54Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell was getting arrested? Or when Epstein hopped off
- 12:57Speaker 1: the plane in Teterboro? That overzealous media? Give me a break.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Just another technicality. Just another loophole... That they're looking to exploit...
- 13:11Speaker 1: So they don't have to face... The harsh reality... That
- 13:15Speaker 1: their client... Their employer... Is guilty as the day is long...
- 13:23Speaker 1: His associate was on duty... At her sprawling New Hampshire hideout...
- 13:27Speaker 1: When he noticed a helicopter... Flying overhead at 6.30 a.m.
- 13:30Speaker 1: And assumed the press... Had discovered the property... Oh yeah...
- 13:34Speaker 1: The press had discovered our property... Oh, Ghislaine Maxwell. Everyone
- 13:39Speaker 1: was looking for her. Yeah, right. It was like The Sun,
- 13:43Speaker 1: The Daily Mail, some independent content creators, and a few
- 13:47Speaker 1: investigative journalists. That was the extent of it. And the
- 13:50Speaker 1: rest of the legacy media was just piggybacking off of
- 13:54Speaker 1: everybody else's work. So stop with the press was hounding
- 14:00Speaker 1: Ghislaine at every turn. That shit wasn't occurring, okay? Point blank. Period.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Two hours later, vehicles sped up the driveway and the
- 14:10Speaker 1: guard instructed Maxwell to move to an interior room for
- 14:13Speaker 1: her safety, the letter says. Oh yeah, for her safety.
- 14:16Speaker 1: What are you going to do there, Mr. James Bond wannabe?
- 14:21Speaker 1: when the FBI kicks in the door and drags your
- 14:24Speaker 1: client out. Because newsflash, the media isn't charging up anyone's driveway, okay?
- 14:29Speaker 1: The media isn't speeding up anyone's driveway in a convoy. Unless,
- 14:34Speaker 1: of course, they're accompanying the feds to complete your humiliation
- 14:39Speaker 1: of being arrested. Then that might occur. But this wasn't
- 14:42Speaker 1: the press storming in to find your client. and moving
- 14:47Speaker 1: her to a safe room, a bedroom. Give me a
- 14:49Speaker 1: break already, all right? What, was Osama bin Laden's boys
- 14:53Speaker 1: kicking in the door looking for an Iraqi politician? That
- 14:59Speaker 1: wasn't happening, all right? This was a typical arrest. No
- 15:02Speaker 1: need to try and safeguard your client to a different room, asshole.
- 15:09Speaker 1: It turned out the intruders weren't the press, but federal agents.
- 15:13Speaker 1: Prosecutors have alleged that she tried to flee to another room,
- 15:17Speaker 1: closing the door behind her when the FBI arrived. But
- 15:20Speaker 1: her security expert countered that she was just following protocol.
- 15:25Speaker 1: I mean, these people have such a highly inflated sense
- 15:29Speaker 1: of self-worth. Who is showing up at your door, Ghislaine Maxwell,
- 15:36Speaker 1: to try and do harm to you? Give me a break.
- 15:38Speaker 1: Maybe your old associates that you were working with. when
- 15:41Speaker 1: you were an asset in the intelligence community, but certainly
- 15:44Speaker 1: not the media, and certainly not federal agents. So who
- 15:48Speaker 1: was it that you were truly afraid of? Who was
- 15:51Speaker 1: it that you were hiding from, Ghislaine? I'll leave that
- 15:56Speaker 1: up to all of you out there to figure out. Me?
- 16:01Speaker 1: You know where I stand. This lady wasn't working in
- 16:06Speaker 1: a vacuum. This lady wasn't just some shrinking violet. We're
- 16:11Speaker 1: talking about a full-blown intelligence asset here. She knew protocol,
- 16:16Speaker 1: all right. Maxwell has asked to be released to home
- 16:21Speaker 1: confinement with electronic GPS monitoring while she awaits trial on
- 16:26Speaker 1: a six-count indictment, charging her with recruiting girls and women
- 16:31Speaker 1: to be sexually abused by her and late pedophile Jeffrey Epstein.
- 16:36Speaker 1: So she wants out bad, right? And they're taking out
- 16:39Speaker 1: all the stops here. They're going the full Monty, if
- 16:43Speaker 1: you will. They got the security guards sending letters to
- 16:47Speaker 1: the courts. They got friends sending letters to the courts.
- 16:50Speaker 1: They got people coming out and saying, I'll leave my
- 16:53Speaker 1: kids with Maxwell in letters to the court. And you
- 16:58Speaker 1: see how badly they want her out. My question is,
- 17:02Speaker 1: why though? What is the motivation here? Is it just
- 17:07Speaker 1: because her so-called treatment in jail is so bad? Or
- 17:11Speaker 1: is there other motivations? Are there other people at play
- 17:14Speaker 1: here behind the scenes that would love to have her
- 17:17Speaker 1: out for whatever reasons? Me? I don't want her moving
- 17:23Speaker 1: one single foot from that facility. Not until it's time
- 17:26Speaker 1: for trial. She'll have her day in court like everybody
- 17:31Speaker 1: else who was remanded to custody before their trial. And
- 17:34Speaker 1: she'll have her time then. To defend herself. In a
- 17:39Speaker 1: court of law. In front of a jury of her peers.
- 17:43Speaker 1: Until that time. The evidence. Is in such an abundant manner.
- 17:50Speaker 1: And there is. Such a wide. Ranging. Variety. Of issues.
- 17:58Speaker 1: That come with someone like Elaine Maxwell. Getting bail. That
- 18:02Speaker 1: I don't see how anyone could think. That this is
- 18:04Speaker 1: a good idea. It is beyond mind-boggling to me to
- 18:12Speaker 1: how anyone could think that this is a good idea. Honestly, folks,
- 18:16Speaker 1: I mean, wow. The security firm would be contracted to
- 18:24Speaker 1: supply around-the-clock protection upon her release, and the company would
- 18:28Speaker 1: even pony up a $ 1 million bond to support her application,
- 18:33Speaker 1: the letter says. Well, that's fantastic. It's nice that the
- 18:37Speaker 1: security company is just so generous with their money. Do
- 18:41Speaker 1: they do that for everybody? How about we get the
- 18:43Speaker 1: name of the security company unredacted, we get the name
- 18:47Speaker 1: of this company, and we find out who the investors are,
- 18:50Speaker 1: who put the money into this company, who's running this company,
- 18:53Speaker 1: who is in charge of the day-to-day. Because until we
- 18:56Speaker 1: know all of that, we have no idea what sort
- 19:00Speaker 1: of scoundrels are jumping into bed here with Maxwell. And
- 19:07Speaker 1: it just is another... Small little nugget that shows you
- 19:11Speaker 1: her large contacts. Do you think you'd have access to
- 19:15Speaker 1: something like this? Anyone you know would have access to
- 19:18Speaker 1: a security company like this offering this kind of deal?
- 19:21Speaker 1: Would El Chapo have that sort of deal? Of course
- 19:26Speaker 1: they wouldn't. Ghislaine Maxwell has always received preferential treatment. She
- 19:33Speaker 1: continues to receive preferential treatment. And the fact... That her
- 19:37Speaker 1: legal team... Would attempt to spin the narrative... As something else...
- 19:43Speaker 1: Is disgusting. Let's hope that Judge Nathan... And... the prosecutors
- 19:53Speaker 1: are not hoodwinked by any of this maneuvering and that
- 19:57Speaker 1: they keep Ghislaine Maxwell behind bars until it's her time
- 20:03Speaker 1: to stand trial in front of a jury of her
- 20:07Speaker 1: peers and and across the room from those who she
- 20:13Speaker 1: has wronged and to those who she has allegedly abused.
- 20:21Speaker 1: If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 20:23Speaker 1: at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at protonmail.com. You can
- 20:32Speaker 1: also find me on Twitter at B-O-B-B-Y underscore C-A-P-U-C-C-I. All
- 20:38Speaker 1: of the links that go with this episode can be
- 20:40Speaker 1: found in the description box. Let's jump into our article,
- 20:44Speaker 1: shall we? And it's from The Guardian. The headline, She
- 20:47Speaker 1: was so dangerous. Where in the world is the notorious
- 20:50Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell? Riding up on a white horse, Ghislaine Maxwell
- 20:55Speaker 1: made quite the impression. She's got the whole equestrian attire.
- 20:58Speaker 1: She's so elegant, recalls Maria Farmer. Farmer was 26 and
- 21:02Speaker 1: trying to build a career as an artist when she
- 21:04Speaker 1: was invited to stay at a ranch in Ohio with
- 21:06Speaker 1: Maxwell and run an art project. So a lot of
- 21:09Speaker 1: these stories you see with Ghislaine Maxwell, when we get
- 21:12Speaker 1: into them, you'll see that they overlap. But it's good.
- 21:14Speaker 1: We need the redundancy and we need to keep her
- 21:17Speaker 1: story in the public eye. There's people that are tuning
- 21:19Speaker 1: in for the first time, I'm sure, right now that
- 21:21Speaker 1: have never heard a lot of this stuff. So these
- 21:24Speaker 1: kind of articles are good. They put who Ghislaine Maxwell
- 21:27Speaker 1: is into perspective and so that we can keep our
- 21:29Speaker 1: eye on the prize, right? And the idea is to
- 21:32Speaker 1: make sure that she, more than anybody almost at this point,
- 21:36Speaker 1: faces justice for what she did. It was the mid-1990s
- 21:42Speaker 1: and this was the second time the two had met.
- 21:45Speaker 1: Farmer had encountered Maxwell and her friend Jeffrey Epstein at
- 21:47Speaker 1: the New York Academy of Art Graduates show. She would
- 21:50Speaker 1: go on to work for the pair for a year.
- 21:52Speaker 1: at the front desk of Epstein's Manhattan mansion. She was
- 21:55Speaker 1: perfectly placed to see who came to the house and
- 21:58Speaker 1: says she witnessed young teenagers being brought through the doors
- 22:00Speaker 1: by Maxwell. Following an alleged sexual assault by Maxwell and Epstein,
- 22:05Speaker 1: Farmer went to the police. She was ignored. And we've
- 22:08Speaker 1: seen that time and time again with these girls, right?
- 22:10Speaker 1: How many times have girls went to the police over
- 22:12Speaker 1: this Epstein case and they've been told basically to kick sand,
- 22:16Speaker 1: pound sand, beat it, kick rocks, get out of here.
- 22:18Speaker 1: We don't believe you. There's no way this rich man
- 22:20Speaker 1: is doing this. He has so much money. He donates
- 22:23Speaker 1: so much money. Well, yeah, that's his shield. That's the smokescreen, folks.
- 22:29Speaker 1: These charitable organizations are the smokescreens. And that's what these
- 22:33Speaker 1: rich people do. They hide behind their giving and they
- 22:35Speaker 1: act like since they gave a few bucks that they're
- 22:37Speaker 1: entitled to anything that they want, including the flesh of
- 22:40Speaker 1: human beings that don't want them to be around them.
- 22:45Speaker 1: More than 20 years on, her account, along with the
- 22:47Speaker 1: testimonies of several other women, including an allegation of abuse
- 22:51Speaker 1: from her younger sister Annie, who was 16 at the time,
- 22:54Speaker 1: has helped to create a picture of Epstein as a
- 22:56Speaker 1: prolific sex offender who abused countless underage girls. It is
- 23:01Speaker 1: a scandal that has drawn in other powerful men, most
- 23:04Speaker 1: notably Prince Andrew. See, it shouldn't just be most notably
- 23:09Speaker 1: Prince Andrew. Now, I guess he's the biggest fish and
- 23:11Speaker 1: the easiest to go after, right? And I understand we
- 23:14Speaker 1: want to bring him down as well. He's definitely on
- 23:16Speaker 1: our list. But I would like there to be more information,
- 23:19Speaker 1: I mean, more of a spotlight on people like Glenn
- 23:21Speaker 1: Dubin and, you know, the other rich billionaires and the
- 23:26Speaker 1: academics who were involved in this as well. One woman,
- 23:31Speaker 1: Virginia Roberts, said she was trafficked by Epstein to have
- 23:33Speaker 1: sex with Andrew on three occasions. He has repeatedly denied
- 23:37Speaker 1: the allegations, most recently in his disastrous TV interview. In July,
- 23:45Speaker 1: Epstein was charged with sex trafficking, and in August, he
- 23:48Speaker 1: killed himself, allegedly, in his prison cell while awaiting trial.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Since then, attention has turned to Maxwell, 57, his right-hand woman.
- 23:57Speaker 1: Yet Maxwell has seemingly vanished. I don't buy it. I
- 24:00Speaker 1: do not buy that she has vanished. I know that
- 24:02Speaker 1: some of her family members know where she is. And
- 24:04Speaker 1: like I said, I had the Thomas Bauer things cooking.
- 24:09Speaker 1: And now I have something else cooking about someone in
- 24:11Speaker 1: Ghislaine Maxwell's family with a direct tie to Hillary Clinton's
- 24:15Speaker 1: State Department. So we're going to dive into that as well.
- 24:18Speaker 1: I'm getting all my ducks in a row. Like I
- 24:20Speaker 1: always tell you guys, I'm not the kind of person
- 24:22Speaker 1: that shoots from the hip. I get information and I
- 24:26Speaker 1: don't just hurly, I don't just jump on to, you know,
- 24:29Speaker 1: make a podcast about it. I have to do my
- 24:31Speaker 1: due diligence, make sure that everything lines up, make sure
- 24:34Speaker 1: I'm not being taken for a walk by my sources.
- 24:37Speaker 1: And then once the process has been completed and once
- 24:41Speaker 1: all of my steps have been met, then I run something.
- 24:45Speaker 1: So I have something that's going to be run. I'm
- 24:47Speaker 1: going to run it very, very soon. It's about Ghislaine
- 24:50Speaker 1: Maxwell and someone in her family. And I have a
- 24:52Speaker 1: feeling that this person probably knows where she is right now. Anyway,
- 24:56Speaker 1: back to the article. From what we know, Ghislaine Maxwell
- 25:00Speaker 1: was a principal enabler to Jeffrey Epstein when he was alive,
- 25:04Speaker 1: says the lawyer Dan Kaiser. Kaiser is representing Jennifer Oroz,
- 25:08Speaker 1: one of the women who says she was raped by
- 25:10Speaker 1: Epstein and who is suing his estate, Maxwell, and three
- 25:13Speaker 1: other enablers. I love it. Sue them all. Sue them
- 25:17Speaker 1: all into oblivion. At the very least, sue them to
- 25:19Speaker 1: get to the discovery phase. And then once discovery happens, bam,
- 25:23Speaker 1: the doors will blow wide open off of this thing.
- 25:26Speaker 1: That's what we need. We need the discovery phase. She
- 25:29Speaker 1: was integral in maintaining the sex trafficking ring, says Kaiser.
- 25:33Speaker 1: She provided important administrative services in terms of the hiring
- 25:36Speaker 1: of recruiters and management of those employees, the making of
- 25:39Speaker 1: appointments and dates for interactions between Mr. Epstein and the
- 25:42Speaker 1: underage girls that were providing sexual services to him. She
- 25:46Speaker 1: also maintained the ring by intimidating girls, by ensuring their silence.
- 25:50Speaker 1: And we've seen that before, right? We've seen her talk
- 25:52Speaker 1: to some of the girls and tell them, well, you know,
- 25:54Speaker 1: accidents happen a lot on the West Side Highway because
- 25:56Speaker 1: that's where the young girl ran. I forget, which there's
- 26:00Speaker 1: so many victims at this point, folks. But we've seen Maxwell.
- 26:04Speaker 1: She is definitely not above these threats. And especially look,
- 26:08Speaker 1: especially if she is being run by the Mossad. We
- 26:10Speaker 1: all know that the Mossad is brutal, right? Just like
- 26:12Speaker 1: our CIA. They're basically the same people, just different countries.
- 26:16Speaker 1: I mean, you know, they have all the same tactics
- 26:19Speaker 1: and training and blah, blah, blah. But these are the
- 26:21Speaker 1: sort of people that are brutal. Right? So if somebody's
- 26:25Speaker 1: telling you that, and you're one of these girls, and
- 26:27Speaker 1: you have intimate knowledge of the monster that Ghislaine Maxwell
- 26:31Speaker 1: truly is, then of course you're saying to yourself, well,
- 26:34Speaker 1: F this. That could really happen. I better shut my mouth. Okay,
- 26:45Speaker 1: let's see. She is as culpable in my judgment as
- 26:48Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein himself. Maxwell has always denied the allegations and
- 26:51Speaker 1: has never faced criminal charges. Her lawyer has not responded
- 26:55Speaker 1: to a request for comment. So her lawyer probably knows
- 26:58Speaker 1: where she is too, right? Here's the thing. Why doesn't
- 27:01Speaker 1: somebody hire some private investigators? If the police aren't going
- 27:05Speaker 1: to do the job, why doesn't somebody hire some private investigators?
- 27:08Speaker 1: Maybe we should all pool our money and hire some
- 27:10Speaker 1: private investigators to look into this. It is believed that
- 27:14Speaker 1: Maxwell and Epstein met shortly after the death of her father,
- 27:17Speaker 1: the media tycoon Robert Maxwell. After his suspicious fall from
- 27:21Speaker 1: the yacht he had named after his daughter, the Lady Ghislaine,
- 27:25Speaker 1: in 1991, a 460 million pound black hole was discovered
- 27:29Speaker 1: in his company's pension fund. Maxwell was the youngest and
- 27:32Speaker 1: said to be favorite of his nine children. They were
- 27:35Speaker 1: close and she was devastated by his death. She had
- 27:38Speaker 1: moved to New York that year after her father bought
- 27:41Speaker 1: the New York Daily News. In London, she had become
- 27:44Speaker 1: something of a socialite and she set about becoming the
- 27:46Speaker 1: same in Manhattan. It is not known how Epstein and
- 27:49Speaker 1: Maxwell met, but she is thought to have been his
- 27:51Speaker 1: girlfriend initially. In a 2003 Vanity Fair profile, he described
- 27:55Speaker 1: her as his best friend. Well, I could... I, my
- 27:59Speaker 1: opinion is they met via the operation that they were running.
- 28:02Speaker 1: This is all a smooth, a smooth moving, smooth operating
- 28:06Speaker 1: machine is what they have going on. So Ghislaine is
- 28:10Speaker 1: introduced to Epstein through her handlers. They're told that they're
- 28:13Speaker 1: going to work together. They start working together and love blossoms.
- 28:17Speaker 1: And besides them being in love, they're a great pair
- 28:19Speaker 1: because Epstein and his six sorted ways and Maxwell with
- 28:23Speaker 1: her into the, The social community and the rich community
- 28:27Speaker 1: in New York City, well, it was a match made
- 28:28Speaker 1: in heaven for whoever was running them, the Mossad or
- 28:30Speaker 1: the CIA. So they took that and they built on it. And, well,
- 28:35Speaker 1: here we are. She was always the most interesting, the
- 28:39Speaker 1: most vivacious, and the most unusual person in any room,
- 28:42Speaker 1: the journalist Vicki Ward wrote in that Vanity Fair profile.
- 28:45Speaker 1: Her Rolodex would blow away almost anyone else that I
- 28:48Speaker 1: can think of. Her British accent, shaped by Marlborough College,
- 28:53Speaker 1: then Oxford University, was considered exotic by 1990s New Yorkers.
- 28:58Speaker 1: She seemed unusually accomplished, too. If what I said had
- 29:02Speaker 1: been true, she is a helicopter pilot, a submarine pilot,
- 29:06Speaker 1: and she speaks four languages. Oh, wow, she's so special.
- 29:09Speaker 1: A helicopter pilot and a submarine pilot, and she speaks
- 29:13Speaker 1: four languages. Oh, wow, she's so cool. The journalist Conchita
- 29:19Speaker 1: Sarnoff knew Maxwell and Epstein socially before the pair began
- 29:22Speaker 1: dating and later helped to expose Epstein's crimes. She says
- 29:26Speaker 1: of Maxwell, She says, believe Jeffrey was taking care of her.
- 29:31Speaker 1: I feel Ghislaine clung to Jeffrey because she felt protected
- 29:34Speaker 1: by him. She says Epstein, whom she describes as chilly
- 29:38Speaker 1: with limited social skills, seemed less in love but more enamored. Alright, see,
- 29:42Speaker 1: and I don't really agree with that. I don't know
- 29:45Speaker 1: about the whole in love angle. I believe that they
- 29:47Speaker 1: were just, you know, they were a convenient pair and
- 29:51Speaker 1: then they were put together by their handlers and maybe
- 29:55Speaker 1: they had their own form of love. I don't know.
- 29:58Speaker 1: Perhaps they have their own form of love, but Really,
- 30:00Speaker 1: what it comes down to is they were co-workers and,
- 30:02Speaker 1: you know, things happen sometimes with co-workers, but I truly
- 30:05Speaker 1: believe that they were put together to run this blackmail
- 30:08Speaker 1: operation and here we are. Tom Bauer, who authored the
- 30:17Speaker 1: biography of Robert Maxwell, wrote in a piece for the
- 30:19Speaker 1: Times in August that Maxwell worshipped rich, domineering men. In Epstein,
- 30:24Speaker 1: a financier, pedophile, she would have found someone who could
- 30:27Speaker 1: restore the extravagant lifestyle she desired. After the death of
- 30:30Speaker 1: her father, her finances were reduced. She and Epstein seemed
- 30:34Speaker 1: mutually dependent. See that, folks? Mutually dependent. She on the
- 30:39Speaker 1: financier's money, he on her contacts and social ease. Like
- 30:43Speaker 1: I said, it's a match made in heaven. It's a
- 30:45Speaker 1: match made in heaven for the intelligence agencies. You have
- 30:48Speaker 1: a woman from a very powerful family who needs finances
- 30:51Speaker 1: and you have a man who is not shy to
- 30:55Speaker 1: run a sex operation for you. You put them together
- 30:58Speaker 1: and they become the dynamic duo of molestation, right? The
- 31:01Speaker 1: Batman and Robin of the rape world. It's basically what
- 31:05Speaker 1: they were. Her social standing was such that it would
- 31:11Speaker 1: probably be easier to list the influential people to whom
- 31:14Speaker 1: Maxwell was not connected. She was close to Bill Clinton
- 31:18Speaker 1: and attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding. She donated to Hillary Clinton's
- 31:21Speaker 1: presidential campaign. There are photographs of Maxwell with Arianna Huffington,
- 31:25Speaker 1: Elon Musk, and Michael Bloomberg. She knew Donald Trump and
- 31:28Speaker 1: members of the Kennedy family. She was connected to the
- 31:31Speaker 1: British royal family through Prince Andrew and Sarah Ferguson. Maxwell
- 31:35Speaker 1: and Epstein, who loaned Ferguson money to pay off debts,
- 31:38Speaker 1: were guests of Andrew at events, including some at Windsor Castle, Balmoral,
- 31:43Speaker 1: and Sandringham. Prince Andrew, in his secret Newsnight interview, in
- 31:46Speaker 1: his recent Newsnight interview, said guests at the parties and
- 31:49Speaker 1: dinners in Epstein's New York mansions included academics, politicians, and
- 31:53Speaker 1: people from the United Nations. Well, we have the trifecta
- 31:56Speaker 1: of scum there, right? We've learned that the academics are
- 31:58Speaker 1: all scumbags, politicians, goes without saying, and how many different
- 32:02Speaker 1: times have we seen the United Nations involved in sex
- 32:04Speaker 1: trafficking schemes or child trafficking schemes? The United Nations is
- 32:09Speaker 1: one of the biggest jokes in the history of the
- 32:10Speaker 1: world and should be done away with. But we know
- 32:13Speaker 1: now that it was not just influential friends Maxwell cultivated.
- 32:16Speaker 1: One of her friends, Ewan Relly, told Tatler, Every single interesting, pretty,
- 32:22Speaker 1: new girl to arrive in New York would end up
- 32:24Speaker 1: going for tea with Ghislaine, then being introduced to Jeffrey.
- 32:27Speaker 1: She was the acceptable face of a rather mysterious billionaire. No,
- 32:31Speaker 1: she was just the other face of the monster, right?
- 32:33Speaker 1: The monster has many faces, and she was one of
- 32:36Speaker 1: the other faces. She was the respectable face. The face
- 32:39Speaker 1: of the socialite. The face of the great English girl
- 32:42Speaker 1: who came to America to show you all how to
- 32:44Speaker 1: be prim and proper. Get the bleep out of here.
- 32:47Speaker 1: Who gives a shit? Alright? It makes me mad. Every
- 32:50Speaker 1: time I read these kind of articles, you know what?
- 32:53Speaker 1: I want her in prison. I want Ghislaine Maxwell in
- 32:55Speaker 1: prison so bad, folks. She deserves to be locked up.
- 32:58Speaker 1: The key deserves to be thrown away like Virginia Roberts said.
- 33:01Speaker 1: And she deserves to truly feel what it's like to
- 33:05Speaker 1: be on the other end of the predator and prey situation.
- 33:09Speaker 1: To New York society, Maxwell legitimized Epstein. As the New
- 33:12Speaker 1: Yorker writer Ariel Levy put in Broken, her podcast about
- 33:16Speaker 1: the Epstein case, if you're a teenage girl and a
- 33:18Speaker 1: man approaches you in a car, you know to keep
- 33:21Speaker 1: on walking. But if it's another woman and she sounds
- 33:23Speaker 1: all fancy and well-educated, you're probably going to get in
- 33:26Speaker 1: that car. And that's a fact, right? It's more discerning
- 33:29Speaker 1: to have a woman show up, someone like Maxwell, someone very,
- 33:32Speaker 1: very educated with that accent... hops out of a Bentley
- 33:35Speaker 1: or whatever, you're not thinking that you're going to be
- 33:37Speaker 1: trafficked by this person. You're thinking, holy shit, my ship
- 33:39Speaker 1: has come in. I have a chance to make some
- 33:41Speaker 1: money maybe here or get a good job or further
- 33:44Speaker 1: my career. That's what you're thinking. And then they flip
- 33:47Speaker 1: the script on you and they groom you and turn
- 33:50Speaker 1: you into one of their abuse victims. And it's the
- 33:53Speaker 1: same pattern over and over and over again with all
- 33:56Speaker 1: of these abusers. And I am tired of it folks
- 34:00Speaker 1: i as sure as i'm sitting here and telling you
- 34:02Speaker 1: right now i am sick and tired of reading these
- 34:04Speaker 1: stories about these sick sons of bitches and they're still
- 34:08Speaker 1: roaming the streets unacceptable Ghislaine was key in making me
- 34:14Speaker 1: feel safe, Farmer says. I trusted her because she is
- 34:16Speaker 1: a woman. She would make us trust her. She would
- 34:19Speaker 1: make us really care about her. My sister even said
- 34:21Speaker 1: that she would feel so special if Ghislaine paid attention
- 34:24Speaker 1: to her because she had that way about her, you know,
- 34:26Speaker 1: the popular girl in school. She was one of those.
- 34:29Speaker 1: She knew everybody. Her voice cracks. She was so dangerous.
- 34:35Speaker 1: Farmer says Maxwell would do anything to get what she
- 34:37Speaker 1: wants and all of it for her is about power
- 34:40Speaker 1: and money. There you go, folks. Again, power and money.
- 34:43Speaker 1: It's not the sexual acts for her, okay? Ghislaine Maxwell
- 34:46Speaker 1: gets off on power. She gets off on money. She
- 34:48Speaker 1: gets off on knowing that she can wield this extreme power,
- 34:52Speaker 1: threaten people, and know that she's protected by whoever her
- 34:55Speaker 1: handlers are. And boy, let me tell you what, if
- 34:57Speaker 1: we ever find out who is handling her, who is
- 34:59Speaker 1: handling Epstein, those people should be thrown alive into a volcano,
- 35:03Speaker 1: an active volcano, because that's how scummy they are. She
- 35:08Speaker 1: was charming initially, says Farmer. Everyone was like, this woman
- 35:11Speaker 1: is so intelligent, so interesting, and she had this really
- 35:15Speaker 1: great personality when you first met her. But it didn't
- 35:18Speaker 1: take long for her to become verbally abusive towards the staff,
- 35:20Speaker 1: she says. I was one of the staff. I would
- 35:23Speaker 1: have to go to Jeffrey and say, Ghislaine's verbally abusing
- 35:25Speaker 1: me again. Then he would scream at her. It was
- 35:28Speaker 1: all like good cop, bad cop. And they loved playing
- 35:30Speaker 1: that game with everybody. Wow. And it's true, right? That's
- 35:34Speaker 1: definitely how this kind of situation works. One person is
- 35:37Speaker 1: the groomer and then the other person slides in to
- 35:40Speaker 1: be the, oh, I'll save you. And now you have
- 35:42Speaker 1: the mental, the complete mental abuse to go along with
- 35:46Speaker 1: the physical abuse. And it is just so screwed up
- 35:48Speaker 1: that these girls have to go through this. Once, she says,
- 35:52Speaker 1: Ivana Trump visited. Quite often, with people like Ivana, powerful people,
- 35:56Speaker 1: Ghislaine would say, hop in the car, you can go
- 35:58Speaker 1: on a ride with us. And it was supposed to
- 36:00Speaker 1: be my special little treat. Then as soon as they
- 36:02Speaker 1: were back at the mansion, Maxwell would switch and shout
- 36:04Speaker 1: at her, she says. She also says she could be threatening.
- 36:08Speaker 1: They had video cameras everywhere in the house, and Ghislaine
- 36:11Speaker 1: liked to intimidate by talking about the cameras. She'd say,
- 36:15Speaker 1: they're watching you. Who is they, right? They're watching you? Who,
- 36:18Speaker 1: a couple of Mossad or CIA agents buried under the
- 36:21Speaker 1: house in some sort of AV room? Farmer alleges that
- 36:25Speaker 1: Maxwell would bring in a steady stream of young girls
- 36:27Speaker 1: to the mansion, often saying she was casting for Victoria's Secret, again,
- 36:31Speaker 1: Victoria's Secret Wexner, enabling, at the very least, the man
- 36:34Speaker 1: needs to be arrested. Owned by Leslie Wexner, a close
- 36:38Speaker 1: friend of Epstein. It was really weird to me. I'm like,
- 36:41Speaker 1: these models are so young. And she said, yeah, but
- 36:44Speaker 1: they need these models for Victoria's Secret. They go as
- 36:47Speaker 1: young as 13 now in modeling. Farmer alleges Maxwell would
- 36:50Speaker 1: recruit teenagers from schools on the Upper East Side and
- 36:53Speaker 1: in Central Park. 13 to wear Victoria's Secret stuff? What
- 36:58Speaker 1: is this, year 810? No, no 13-year-old should be wearing
- 37:02Speaker 1: any sort of lingerie. Sorry, that's gross, disgusting thought. Anyone
- 37:07Speaker 1: who wants to see that is probably something wrong with them,
- 37:09Speaker 1: to be honest with you. I can't even, who wants
- 37:11Speaker 1: to see a 13-year-old in lingerie? Ghislaine controlled the girls,
- 37:17Speaker 1: said Tara Ransom, who claimed she was abused by Epstein
- 37:19Speaker 1: in a recent Panorama interview. She would be the one
- 37:22Speaker 1: getting all the girls in check. She knew what Jeffrey liked.
- 37:25Speaker 1: This was very much a joint effort. In the same documentary,
- 37:29Speaker 1: Roberts recalls traveling back to Maxwell's house in London after
- 37:33Speaker 1: a night in a club with Prince Andrew. In the car,
- 37:36Speaker 1: Ghislaine tells me that I have to do for Andrew
- 37:38Speaker 1: what I do for Jeffrey. It is alleged that Maxwell
- 37:41Speaker 1: was not only an enabler for Epstein's abuse, but took
- 37:44Speaker 1: part in it. Finally, one of these articles says that.
- 37:47Speaker 1: How many articles have I been freaking out about because
- 37:49Speaker 1: nobody talks about this part of it? It's not just
- 37:51Speaker 1: she was enabling. She was abusing these girls on their
- 37:54Speaker 1: own record, saying it. How is she not arrested? In
- 38:00Speaker 1: her Panorama interview, Virginia Roberts recounted how Maxwell and Epstein
- 38:05Speaker 1: abused her at his Palm Beach house after Maxwell had
- 38:08Speaker 1: recruited her from her job working as a spa attendant
- 38:11Speaker 1: at Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort. In 1996, Farmer says Maxwell
- 38:16Speaker 1: and Epstein sexually assaulted her. She went to the police
- 38:19Speaker 1: as well as more than one FBI agent, one of
- 38:22Speaker 1: whom took action. Excuse me, none of whom took action.
- 38:25Speaker 1: She also spoke to Ward in 2002 for a Vanity
- 38:28Speaker 1: Fair profile. Ward has since said that the then-editor Graydon
- 38:32Speaker 1: Carter cut out the entire part about Farmer and her
- 38:35Speaker 1: sister after being pressured by Epstein. A spokeswoman for the
- 38:38Speaker 1: magazine has said, Epstein denied the charges at the time,
- 38:41Speaker 1: and since the claims were unsubstantiated and no criminal investigation
- 38:44Speaker 1: had been initiated, we decided not to include them in
- 38:47Speaker 1: what was a financial story. Again, we see how transparent
- 38:52Speaker 1: that is. If they can score political points with the story,
- 38:55Speaker 1: they don't care about substantiating anything. They'll run it off
- 38:59Speaker 1: of sources, this, that, the other thing, anything to hurt
- 39:02Speaker 1: their political opponents. But if it comes to somebody being
- 39:04Speaker 1: molested or trafficked or raped, come on, we need to
- 39:07Speaker 1: have evidence of that. You can't just say that. Maxwell
- 39:13Speaker 1: and Epstein's relationship seems to have been complex. Sarnoff says,
- 39:17Speaker 1: Maxwell once told her she wanted very much to marry Epstein.
- 39:20Speaker 1: Maxwell is very clever, Sarnoff says. In spite of her
- 39:23Speaker 1: personal insecurities as a result of her father's death and
- 39:26Speaker 1: financial challenges, I believe she nevertheless knew exactly What she
- 39:30Speaker 1: was doing when she agreed to solicit girls On his
- 39:32Speaker 1: behalf However I don't think that phase of their relationship
- 39:36Speaker 1: Began until she understood Epstein would not marry her I
- 39:39Speaker 1: don't believe that. I believe that Maxwell definitely knew what
- 39:42Speaker 1: she was getting into with Epstein. I'm going off of
- 39:45Speaker 1: the assumption that this was an intelligence operation. They were co-workers.
- 39:49Speaker 1: You ever see the movie, the show, The Americans? Think
- 39:51Speaker 1: about that, but running an operation to blackmail high-profile people
- 39:55Speaker 1: in America. And that's basically what this was, in my opinion.
- 39:57Speaker 1: An arranged relationship. Farmer says Maxwell told her they were married.
- 40:03Speaker 1: In another interview, this time with the Miami Herald... which
- 40:06Speaker 1: has doggedly investigated Epstein, Roberts alleges Maxwell had asked her
- 40:11Speaker 1: to have a child with Epstein and hand the baby
- 40:13Speaker 1: over for Maxwell and Epstein to raise. She would be
- 40:15Speaker 1: paid an allowance of $ 200, 000 a month. I mean, this
- 40:20Speaker 1: is how they thought about people. Come on, kid, come over,
- 40:22Speaker 1: we'll rape you a bunch of times. Oh, and then
- 40:23Speaker 1: you can be a surrogate for our kid, and we'll
- 40:25Speaker 1: give you $ 200, 000 a month. I mean, that's what we'll do,
- 40:27Speaker 1: but you'll be under our complete control. Ransom, who says
- 40:32Speaker 1: she was kept for six months on Epstein's private island
- 40:35Speaker 1: and claimed she was raped several times a day, said
- 40:38Speaker 1: there were never like a couple. Jeffrey and Ghislaine were
- 40:40Speaker 1: best friends or like brother and sister, never holding hands
- 40:43Speaker 1: or kissing. And she wasn't his employee. No, they were
- 40:45Speaker 1: partners and not in the partners in the sense of
- 40:47Speaker 1: you and your girlfriend or you and your wife or
- 40:49Speaker 1: you and your husband and partners in the sense of,
- 40:52Speaker 1: you know, coworkers. They were running an operation and they
- 40:55Speaker 1: just happened to be paired together by whoever the intelligence
- 40:57Speaker 1: agency was. And that's my opinion. When Maxwell found that
- 41:02Speaker 1: Farmer had spoken out, she made threatening calls, Farmer says.
- 41:06Speaker 1: She has been in hiding for many years. Ghislaine kept
- 41:09Speaker 1: threatening my life. She found out where I was living
- 41:11Speaker 1: and she would send messages to me or I would
- 41:13Speaker 1: get a call and I would have to move again.
- 41:15Speaker 1: Most of her threats were veiled. You better look over
- 41:17Speaker 1: your shoulder because there's someone coming for you. She told
- 41:20Speaker 1: me she was going to burn all of my paintings.
- 41:22Speaker 1: My career was burned. In 2015, Robert sued Maxwell for
- 41:26Speaker 1: defamation after Maxwell said she was lying about the allegations
- 41:30Speaker 1: she had made. The case was settled out of court
- 41:34Speaker 1: and Maxwell began retreating from public view. She was no
- 41:37Speaker 1: longer seen in public with Epstein after his 2008 conviction
- 41:40Speaker 1: for soliciting underage girls for prostitution. For this, he was
- 41:45Speaker 1: given an 18-month prison sentence and a sweetheart plea deal
- 41:48Speaker 1: that saw an investigation into his abuse of more than
- 41:51Speaker 1: 30 underage girls, for which he could have been given
- 41:54Speaker 1: a life sentence, shut down. He served just 13 months,
- 41:57Speaker 1: 13 months, much of it on day release. Four years
- 42:01Speaker 1: after this, Paola Tholstrup, a model who had been friendly
- 42:04Speaker 1: with Maxwell in the 90s, met her at a funeral.
- 42:07Speaker 1: She hadn't changed exactly, but she was hyper and talking
- 42:10Speaker 1: very fast, says Tholstrup. All she seemed to want to
- 42:13Speaker 1: talk about was the ocean and the charity she was
- 42:15Speaker 1: involved in. Those who knew Maxwell say the charity helped
- 42:18Speaker 1: her rebrand herself after allegations against her were reported. Again, folks,
- 42:23Speaker 1: charities and money to provide a shield. So remember when you're,
- 42:27Speaker 1: you know, it's great that these rich people are doing
- 42:29Speaker 1: charitable works, right? But we always have to ask ourselves,
- 42:32Speaker 1: we have to be cynical. We have to be cynical.
- 42:35Speaker 1: What are they getting out of this? In August, Maxwell
- 42:39Speaker 1: was photographed in a burger restaurant in Los Angeles. She
- 42:42Speaker 1: has not been seen since, although there have been press
- 42:45Speaker 1: reports suggesting that she is preparing to do her own
- 42:47Speaker 1: TV interview. I don't know if that photograph was real
- 42:50Speaker 1: or photoshopped or some of it was photoshopped. I'm certainly
- 42:52Speaker 1: not an expert in that regard. I know some of
- 42:54Speaker 1: it was photoshopped, but I think the actual picture itself
- 42:58Speaker 1: was real. Not too positive about that. So if somebody
- 43:01Speaker 1: out there listening has the evidence on that and factual
- 43:04Speaker 1: evidence on that and shoot it over to me, that's great.
- 43:06Speaker 1: But as far as I know, the picture was taken,
- 43:09Speaker 1: but some of the other things were photoshopped in the
- 43:10Speaker 1: backgrounds and stuff. Kaiser says he has not been able
- 43:16Speaker 1: to serve Maxwell with legal papers because she is off
- 43:19Speaker 1: hiding somewhere. Does he have any idea where she is? No,
- 43:22Speaker 1: I wish I did. We've looked all various places so
- 43:25Speaker 1: far to no avail. We thought we had a lead
- 43:27Speaker 1: in some compound in Colorado, a very good friend of hers,
- 43:30Speaker 1: a wealthy family. We thought she might be there, but
- 43:33Speaker 1: we're not sure. I expect the FBI knows exactly where
- 43:36Speaker 1: she is. They may be building a case. I don't
- 43:39Speaker 1: believe they've given up on pursuing some of Epstein's enablers,
- 43:41Speaker 1: and I have to believe that would include Maxwell. I'm
- 43:44Speaker 1: going to tell you right now, folks, if they don't
- 43:46Speaker 1: go after Maxwell, we need to march on the Justice Department.
- 43:49Speaker 1: We need to have a million-person march on the Justice
- 43:51Speaker 1: Department where we demand answers and we demand justice. Not
- 43:55Speaker 1: just for these girls, but for all the people that
- 43:57Speaker 1: have been victimized by these sons of bitches. Sarnoff thinks
- 44:03Speaker 1: Maxwell is in a country that does not have an
- 44:05Speaker 1: extradition treaty with the U.S. I agree with that. I
- 44:08Speaker 1: highly believe that she is that savvy and that slick
- 44:11Speaker 1: and that her handlers know better. There have been attempts
- 44:14Speaker 1: to portray Maxwell as another of Epstein's victims, someone who
- 44:17Speaker 1: was enthralled to this rich, powerful man, just as she
- 44:20Speaker 1: was to her father. The journalist Mark Edmonds, who has
- 44:23Speaker 1: been writing about Maxwell, said recently she was possibly a
- 44:26Speaker 1: victim too. It was a tricky relationship. She was a
- 44:31Speaker 1: victim too? Mark Edmonds, huh? How much money were you
- 44:34Speaker 1: given by Jeffrey Epstein, Mark Edmonds? Maybe we should do
- 44:36Speaker 1: a deep dive into you. Maybe we should have a
- 44:39Speaker 1: closer look into Mark Edmonds who thinks that Ghislaine Maxwell
- 44:43Speaker 1: was just a victim in this too. No, Mark Edmonds,
- 44:47Speaker 1: you're a victim of stupidity, my friend. She is not
- 44:52Speaker 1: a victim, says Farmer Appalled. She is a victimizer. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
- 44:57Speaker 1: We agree with you there, Ms. Maria Farmer. She is
- 44:59Speaker 1: definitely a victimizer. And what happens in 2020 to predators?
- 45:03Speaker 1: That's right. In 2020, predators are becoming the prey. Starting
- 45:08Speaker 1: with you, Ghislaine. Buckle up your helmet. Get ready because
- 45:11Speaker 1: we're coming at you full force. We will not rest
- 45:15Speaker 1: until you have had your day. And that's the end
- 45:17Speaker 1: of it. All right, folks, if you would like to
- 45:20Speaker 1: get in contact with me, you can do that at
- 45:21Speaker 1: BobbyCapucci at ProtonMail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I at ProtonMail.com.