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Clients' Hypnosis Experience - PART 1 | Comparing Higher Self Experiences | Seer Sessions #212 · Seer Sessions

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Hey everyone, it's Gina you're listening to.
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See your sessions. In our last episode, episode
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211, you had the opportunity to take a hypnotic journey.
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A hypnotic journey where you could access the wisdom of your
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soul, your inner guidance, your higher self, and gain
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understanding about consciousness.
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Is this something we can change? Does it change?
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How does consciousness relate to creativity?
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Understand what blocks you when it comes to what you want most
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in life and more. And in today's episode, I have a
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discussion with some friends of mine talking about their
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experience, what they learned when they took that same
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hypnotic journey. So here we were in my living
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room, I had three friends over for the solstice, and we took a
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hypnotic journey. They came out of that hypnotic
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journey and we talked about it. So during that hypnotic journey,
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it's just like episode 211 where they are guided to access the
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wisdom of their higher self. And all of these questions that
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I've been exploring on my own, I wanted them to explore and I
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wanted to hear what they would get.
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So we use hypnosis to access that transcendental space, and
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it's from that space that we can access the astral plane, the
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Akashic records, other lifetimes, the energy and wisdom
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of our soul, the part of us that lives life afterlife and life in
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between lives. And like I said before, I've had
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a summer where I have been deeply exploring these things on
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my own. So when I had friends coming
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into town and they were open to doing a couple of hypnotic
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journeys, I knew that this is something that I wanted to cover
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with them. So listen to their answers.
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Take anything that resonates with you or makes life seem to
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make a little more sense to you. And more importantly, go to
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episode 211. It's LinkedIn, the show notes.
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Take that hypnotic journey yourself and see what wisdom you
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can gain about your own life today.
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So that is where this episode begins.
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We had just completed a hypnotic journey.
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Everyone was relaxed sitting on the couch and this is the
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conversation that we had. OK, so the first questions, well
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most of the questions had to do with consciousness, but the
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first one was just that basic one like what can you know about
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consciousness? And then also what happens as we
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grow heel change to our consciousness like, and I guess
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that question is almost around this idea of like expanding your
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consciousness, a higher consciousness.
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And I just want to feel like there's better words to be had,
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but I can't think of them. So even just that idea of like
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consciousness in general. And then what are we doing?
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What's happening as we're growing, changing, healing,
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anything you got there? The.
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Phrase that came out was consciousness is all that is.
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And then I was shown like a sponge, which is sort of the way
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that I understand the Akasha. And so that later came up as
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consciousness is like the Akasha.
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It decides what lives you will see that will have the greatest
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impact. But consciousness being like the
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Akasha and being like all that is, is kind of a, it's kind of a
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shift for me 'cause I always think of it as something
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separate. Like I think of it as more of a
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human energy that we're working through to try to reach the
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higher realms or other the other realms.
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Like that. It's just a human thing.
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Like that's the way that my brain has like thought of it up
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until now that. The consciousness of the.
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Human that consciousness is just about our brain, like being able
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to, you know, level up and like the other thing that it's like
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the slight push of of like a hand on your back, like nudging
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you forward. Like that's consciousness.
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It's and it's like a guiding force of our uniform of our
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universe, but it's also like the energy we're we're it's a Co
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creation type of energy. Tapping into our consciousness
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helps us access like the wisdom and compassion to be able to
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take the next steps. I also got that it's a gift that
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allows and teaches about what existence in both the physical
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and non physical reality is like for us.
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It's an energy to learn to work with and for.
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So like we're all working and creating like consciousness and
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so while we can work with it, we also work for it and that like.
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It. Sort of expresses through US.
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OK, OK. So that's that was what is
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consciousness. I mean, I know well.
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I think, yeah, people write books on this stuff, you know,
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like we we can't figure it out. So I'm not looking for the
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capital a answers, but that I love the idea of you're working
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with it and for it and for it. Not in the sense of like you're
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it's bitch, but for it. Like what you're doing effects
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it like yeah, so work for it. Like be intentional about it.
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That's what I got from that. And then anything in there about
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like as we're growing and changing yours, it sounded like
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it was like, yes, you work with the to grow and change.
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And was there anything like like what is that?
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Like what is happening to consciousness?
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So it's like a Co creator force that like we work with to help
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create the reality for us and for others and for the universe
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itself. OK.
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It's like a group project, you know, like us are every solar,
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every energy. Yes, yes, it's like it's bigger
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than that. And like for me to get it's all
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that is when I think of all that is, I think of more.
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At least my brain is trying to think of God or the universe and
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like what if consciousness is just another word for the
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universe itself? Yes.
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And the way I was thinking of it was like my consciousness and
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but the way you're thinking of it makes it feel.
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That's interesting. I mean, that's why I'm doing
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this. Yeah, yeah, it's, yeah, it's.
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Really. Yeah, which is probably right
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where you need to be when you're talking about consciousness.
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Like, confused. What's highlighted in this
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conversation with Becky here is a need for nuanced language and
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a deeper understanding of what we're doing here.
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So here's what I mean. This conversation with Becky
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kind of outlines this idea that when I'm talking about
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consciousness, I guess I'm talking about it from the sense
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of like, what I'm consciously aware of.
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But what Becky's highlighting here is that it's not just me,
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though. Like if I were to drop dead
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right now and you were standing beside me and I go from talking
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to you to now I'm dead, you will notice a difference in how I
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look. Like in one I'm like animated,
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I'm alive. In the other one I'm not.
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And so I'm wondering like, what is absent there?
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Like what leaves when we die? And I think it's our
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consciousness just chain changes form.
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So we go from enveloping this physical body to being pure
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consciousness, unlimited potential, unconditional love if
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we want it. And so that's part of my
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curiosity. Another part of my curiosity is
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that right now, as I stand here, I'm 44.
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I'm going to be 45 in a couple months.
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And what is 45? What is age?
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What is time like? I don't know.
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The older I get, the more confused by it all I am, and the
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older I get, the more I can see in my history of evolution, of
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being a child, of being a teenager, of being a young adult
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and adult, a waking up adult. You know, I just, I can look
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back and see that I was unconscious to so much.
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And part of the reason I was unconscious to it is because at
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least from where I stand now, it looks like I was unconscious to
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it because I believed that I knew more than I actually did.
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It's like my just this my belief that I was aware that I was
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growing and evolving. Like yes, sure, Gina, you were
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and maybe you were really in comparison to some a lot of the
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people you were around. But like to think that I just
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think I knew so little and that belief that I knew more than I
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actually did blocked me from being made aware of blind spots
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or things that I was not aware of.
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And as my consciousness continues to expand, my
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awareness becomes more. I just see like how much I was
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unaware of, unaware of how influenced I was, unaware of how
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my beliefs blocked me, unaware of how I thought my beliefs were
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the capital T truth. And that blocked a lot of new
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understanding and learning, new perspectives, new changes in
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life. And I think you can hear too, in
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Becky's voice and me as I ramble here, that these experiences in
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this transcendental state, they're ineffable.
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Like it's so much of a feeling and a knowing all at once when
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you're in that space that to come down and kind of bring it
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through the human filter into the most analog words with no
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feelings, possibly not a lot of knowing behind it as that's
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translated. When people hear these words
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that were cooking down from this expansive experience, it's
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really hard to do that. But I do believe we can do it
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and we can do more of it and we can get even better at it.
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And that's my personal experience.
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And the more expansive my awareness gets, just the better
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my life gets, the better my life feels, really.
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It's not about smoothing out all the bumps or making it perfect
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like life will life. It's just what is our mentality
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about it? What is our perception of it?
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What are our beliefs around it? What of our thoughts around it
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and how is that affecting our life experience?
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And I think it's so important to me because one of the things
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that I can see really blocked me, something I was completely
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unconscious of before, is how much life is a Co creation and
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how often so many of us want something, set the goal for
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something, ask for something. And there's a lot more waiting
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than acting. It's like we're waiting for a
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signal. We're waiting for someone to say
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yes, we're waiting for this opportunity to show up.
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And in a lot of that waiting, there can be a ton of action and
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creation and making shit happen on our end.
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And so I think to me when I look back at my life, thinking I was
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consciously aware, but now seeing I've expanded my
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awareness so much that I don't think I was.
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And I think that blocked me. Just this idea, thinking I was
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aware was blocking me from seeing how much I was not aware
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of and how much that limited me in my action, in my drive, in my
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dreaming, in my life experience. Like what I thought was possible
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for me was very limited because of that.
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So it's kind of a convoluted, messy soup.
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But the more I rail up against this and try to wrap my mind
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around it, the more I can understand and really embrace a
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wisdom that's peaceful and calming in all areas of my life.
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And you know, if I'm meddling around in my own mind, it just
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automatically makes me curious about what everyone else is
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thinking. OK, so here's what Erica had to
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say. I also have written down
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consciousness is all that is. I even kind of crossed out what
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I started writing and then all that is.
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But I have a lot of scattered metaphors all over the place, a
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lot of water metaphors. That makes sense, but it started
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with consciousness is light and then I've showed them the
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Symphony of light life. This lifetime that Erica refers
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to as the Symphony of Light, I actually shared that session on
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the podcast. So if you go to episode 180 and
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that is a recording of the session of the lifetime that
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Erica is talking about when she says Symphony of Light Life.
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But it started with consciousness is light, and then
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I've showed them the Symphony of light life and the dancing
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colors was dancing consciousness but not light in the sense of
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what you are used to seeing light as vibration.
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It transforms, it transmutes, it's ever changing like the
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ocean. It always is, and yet it's
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always in a constant state of change.
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You find the most opposition when you try to resist change.
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It's like trying to force the ocean to be still.
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You'll be drowned. Consciousness always is and
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always is changing. But on the other side of it,
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embracing the shift, inviting it in with playful curiosity will
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carry you into a flow state of creativity that will lead you to
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divinity. This idea of creativity being
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linked to divinity? Ecstasy, pure potential,
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unconditional love. This idea that creativity is an
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energy to be harnessed, flowed with, brought into our lives,
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into our bodies, into our minds, and that that energy is
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connected to the divine, to source, to our potential, to our
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purpose. That's a theme that keeps coming
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up over and over. My higher self, my experiences
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in the astral plains continue to reinforce that idea.
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Client conversations like this continue to reinforce that idea.
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And I know too, that this idea of a lot of people feeling like
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they don't have a lot of purpose in life, it really is this
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disconnection from that creativity.
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And it's when we're in that creative flow that we oftentimes
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feel, oh, this is the purpose that we're looking for.
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I don't have any answers. I just know that connecting
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those dots happens all the time for me in my experiences, in my
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clients experiences. And I think that it is
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definitely a stone on this path that will continue to grow in my
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understanding of it and my ability to harness it and to
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help clients understand it, harness it, flow with it in
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their own life. So similar where it's like, this
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is not yours. I mean, it is, but it's again, I
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was almost think when I hear you 2 say that, it's like, oh, I've
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been thinking of it almost like a what am I conscious of?
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So then that's like, what is consciousness?
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The eternal question. I was also thinking of
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consciousness akin to my higher self.
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So it is kind of like my consciousness that I draw from
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in each lifetime. But again, like the ocean, there
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are many oceans, they all flow into each other.
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That's kind of like all of our individual consciousness.
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We're all individual and the same, constantly flowing in and
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out of each other. But we still there's something
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that still always remains true to our deepest selves, the.
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Individual, yeah. It's like the idea of we are all
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one. It's like that.
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That feels really true to me. But then when I think of like,
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well, we're all very different, you know?
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And to me, it's almost like the bridge is the consciousness.
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That's what actually makes it all one.
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But then we're individuated off of that.
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I'm just thinking out loud. That's not the.
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That might not even be my truth at this point.
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I don't know. Big shocker that I got.
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Consciousness is so consciousness is we can choose
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to study it, track it, qualify it, quantify it, and it is no
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matter what the results or what we write down or what we think,
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it just still is. And so I think hearing you kind
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of come up against Gina, like how you were thinking of
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consciousness versus these answers, I kept coming back to
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what you're describing as consciousness is what I was
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getting as that is perception and perspective.
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So consciousness is the sun, perception is where we are
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standing on Earth. So individually, we're all
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standing somewhere else and the sun is still where it is.
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This idea of perception, that's what it is like awareness
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perception. Like what am I aware of?
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How expansive is what I'm conscious of?
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What do I have the strength to even think about or endure
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inside of my brain? And I think that if we could all
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take a moment to think this expansively, yet this nuanced,
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it's so beneficial for us to know where I'm at, where I'm
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standing on Earth, where I where I come from in this life that
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makes me see life differently than you.
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And there might be overlap there.
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And I would imagine the more that overlaps between us, the
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better we'll get along, the more we'll enjoy each other's
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company. And if we could know that truth
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is that malleable and that simple, we could use that
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knowing to shift perceptions in our life, to shift the way our
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life feels or the direction we're headed in our life.
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And it would also open us up to more compassion for other
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people. Because if you say you're
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hurting in a certain way, and I don't understand that currently,
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it seems this culture, we ignore that or we say you're wrong and
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instead saying, well, we're both probably right on some level, at
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least personally right for myself or yourself.
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But if I can know that you truly do have somewhat of a different
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experience because of where you're at on earth, where you're
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at in your life, where you come from, where you're going,
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instead of being judgmental or harsh, I can instead, I can
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start with curiosity backed by compassion.
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And so for me to know this, like my perception doesn't
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necessarily mean that is the only truth, that is the only
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reality available to me, can be incredibly freeing.
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It's so freeing to me because life often overwhelms me,
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overwhelms me with certain emotions, certain negative
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experiences, negative thoughts. So if I can know that I can
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change those thoughts, Those thoughts might be true, but I
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don't have to torture myself with them Now.
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That shift in perspective will change my day.
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And if I do that every day, it'll change my life.
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And so then my wisest self was teaching me about like how we
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can lean on tools and how we can lean on the cycles in nature.
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So then if I'm going to follow this sun metaphor, this kind of
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answers the question of what are we doing when we're healing,
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growing, evolving? We're not changing
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consciousness. Consciousness is.
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We're adding tools to our tool belt and we're learning skills
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to work with nature and cycles to be able to Co create with
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consciousness. So the sun just is right, but
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there are natural cycles we can lean on with the sun.
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We can lean on the sunrise and the sunset.
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We can lean on the fact that, you know, the Western Hemisphere
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is a bit different from the eastern hemisphere.
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We can lean on the fact that clouds may roll in and shift the
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sun a little bit. And as humans, we have Co
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created tools that we can use with the sun.
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So we can use sunscreen, right? We can sit under umbrellas.
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We can use tools to also change our perception of the sun.
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So the sun is unsafe without sunscreen, but if we have
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sunscreen now, it's safe for us to be in that Direct Line,
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right? And so that's what we're doing
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when we're, when, what our perspective, our, you know,
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language, our shared language in this particular space, right?
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Healing, evolving, growing. All we're doing is finding new
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perspectives and perceptions to be able to navigate
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consciousness. But consciousness still just is,
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yes. OK.
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And so with consciousness, the stronger we get in our
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repertoire, our tool belt, the more effectively we can go.
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This is my intention. Consciousness has illuminated
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the next step. So now, through creativity, we
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get from intention to the next step.
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Oh, through creativity. And I got more on that later,
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but. Oh, the perception thing, yes.
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OK, so the way I was perceiving perception before was was almost
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like consciousness is everything I'm aware of, but that would be
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not consciousness, that's perception.
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I like that better. Where I was coming from or my
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previous thought was I'd so I'm aware of all these things, but
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there's things in my body, things in my history, things in
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my mind that prevent me from actually absorbing every piece
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of stimuli. And that is like where I focus.
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That's like the glasses I put on.
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That's my perception. That's where I'm looking.
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And so I can, you know, if everything has good and bad in
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it, what are you focusing on? And then what's that?
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What's the result of that in your life?
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But I like that idea. OK, so let's follow that threat
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that that part of perception. I think that was the next two
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more questions. OK, so we'll come back to that.
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So next let's talk about the that.
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Yeah, consciousness and creativity.
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So the way I posed this question first was think about something
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you want or want to be or whatever.
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And then what can you know about consciousness to get you there?
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What can you know about consciousness to create that?
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What can you know about consciousness and creating?
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So actually, do you want to start just because that's where
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we left off? So consciousness and creativity.
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I have this little diagram that looks like something from a
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kindergartner. So what consciousness is our
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body is. Perception happens in the mind.
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If we stop there, that's where the block is.
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Creativity happens when we can bring consciousness into the
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body. So we get stuck in our
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perception. We're aware of consciousness and
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we get stuck wondering what it means and labelling it, trying
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to figure out the tool. We might see the step in our
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mind, but we're not going to get to creativity until we have the
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tool in our tool belt to bring back in body consciousness.
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So then in bringing consciousness through the funnel
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of perception and into the body, that's when we are able to
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create. Yeah.
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So then if we're feeling creatively blocked, perhaps
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we're wrestling with a belief that is an alignment, a thought
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that is an alignment, and we're missing the opportunity to just
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let the sun illuminate the body and move from there.
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Ish. OK, I barely got it.
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I think I have a follow up question.
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The diagram compared to the concept is a little.
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There's. A different.
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Perspective. The diagram.
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Looks like. Something in.
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Kindergarten a diagram looks like I should be able to just do
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that like laying on my yoga mat. But OK, So this idea, this idea
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of body consciousness, bringing consciousness into the body.
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So I want to know more about kind of like any other
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information, whether it's like a tangible example, whether it's
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real life or not. But then it makes me think of, I
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almost think of the body sometimes as this tool to make
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consciousness more real in the sense of like, according to my
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3D brain, this pen feels more real than someone's idea about
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something. So it's almost like we get the
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idea and we you use body consciousness, which I want to
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know more about that. But to me it seems similar into
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what I was thinking. But I wouldn't use that word of
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like the idea comes in. But if I don't act with my body,
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typing, talking, planning, doing, then then that's the
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block. But oftentimes we think
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something else is blocking us. But it is a thought, it is a
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perception, it is a belief that blocks us.
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So that's what I was thinking. And I'm wondering how is what
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came through for you and your understanding of body
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consciousness in that space? Yeah.
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Say more about anything you might get about body
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consciousness. So the first thing I got about
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creativity of body consciousness is that this is innate.
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Like if if so consciousness is. And I also got a clear message
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that the body is so there's nothing.
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It's like being able to create is innate.
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That cycle is innate, right? But we have an imbalance
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collectively where we are reinforcing the perspective and
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the illusion that there's more we have to do and we're labeling
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things in a very unhealthy way. And so I think an example of
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another way we get blocked outside of just stopping in the
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mind and the perception and the thoughts is the reason why we
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might stay blocked and not want to return to body consciousness
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is the example I got is like embarrassment and shame.
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And I think this came, it came up with cringe.
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And I know we're not quite there, but it's this this
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feeling of what if I do the thing, create the thing, say the
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thing, and then I feel embarrassed or shame.
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And because we've perceived embarrassment and shamed and
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label it and had the thought that those are bad feelings, we
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stop there. So then I guess the advice or
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the guidance that I got is OK. So I've I've acknowledged that.
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I'm aware of that. It's illuminated through
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consciousness that I'm resisting embarrassment and shame.
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So now here are my options. My tools are one to pick, tools
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that build what I want to be feeling instead.
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So if you're thinking embarrassment and shame is
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ungraceful or incapable or weak, it's like, OK, then I could have
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tools in my tool belt that make me feel strong and graceful and
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capable. Or I can work with my
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consciousness and my perspective to stop assigning judgment to
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embarrassment and shame. So it's like I, I think we're, I
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think where I'm left is with that wrestling of why, why
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collectively are we here? Like, why, collectively, have we
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created an environment where we're labeling so much and we're
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stuck in perception, and we want to believe that there's a good
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or bad to consciousness or a right or wrong to consciousness?
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Is that where you're at with just the question,
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are you done? I think.
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I'll badger someone else for a second.
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We were all pretty fried by those time.
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If you can think of putting your awareness, your consciousness
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into the astral plane, having these transcendental experiences
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and then coming into the space and like rehashing these really
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heavy topics, really nebulous topics, she was done.
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And you know what, I get it. Even though I could go all day
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and all night, I get it. I get it.
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I'm very thankful for my energy and my persistence, especially
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my awareness of them. So I don't let them run me into
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the ground. OK, Something I want to say here
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before we move on from Sarah is this idea of body consciousness.
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And the way she described it just really started to open my
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mind up to consciousness in the body in a new way.
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And I had already been thinking, one of the clients I was working
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with this spring, one of the things that kept coming up for
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her when she was working with her higher self was this idea of
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bringing her body into her spiritual practice.
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And this idea of bringing your body into your spiritual
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practice is a theme that has since resonated out to other
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clients, to myself, and what that means and what that can
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mean for our experience in our body.
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And I'm not talking about your body looking a certain way.
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I'm talking about how you feel in your body, feeling alive,
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feeling light, feeling strong, feeling agile, feeling happy to
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be alive. There's so many different ways
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we want to feel, but using our bodies and our experience in our
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body, it's almost like Spirit the Collective is really urging
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us to use that as a way to learn and to evolve even more.
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And what does that mean? What does that mean to bring
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your body into your spiritual practice?
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I'm going to have more on that, but for right now, I just want
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you to think about that. Just let me plant that little
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seed and what that might mean to all of us in a few months, in a
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few years, I don't know, but it's definitely a part of the
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next phase. OK, Creativity, consciousness,
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I'm. Processing everything I.
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Just have to. Add to.
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OK, perfect. Going to add to that.
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So I got consciousness is the hammer or tool and perception is
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the nail or how consciousness creates perception.
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And then they were like they showed me a car and they said
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consciousness is the car, all it is plus like plus sign beliefs.
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Beliefs are the fuel, the energy, you know, to keep all
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that is going and then the result is perceptions.
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But they were like car plus fuel gets you to your destination.
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So consciousness plus beliefs gets you to your perception.
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Oh, can. You repeat that last night.
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Yeah, repeat that. Again, so you're the car's
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consciousness, your belief systems, your beliefs are the
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fuel that you're putting into your consciousness to then take
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yourself to a destination which will you will arrive at new
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perceptions. Like if we're choosing to
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believe certain things, it will take us to that perception.
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So would you say just based on everything you know to be true
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up until this moment, would you say that your awareness is
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different than consciousness is your awareness?
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What am I trying to say? It's almost like that's where we
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interact as a human in this type of separate individuated world.
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Is that, is that it right. Like because you said my
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consciousness, me, I think of like, well, what is if
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consciousness is outside of me in an energy I'm working with
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and in what part of me is taking information from that and
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filtering it through my beliefs and my history and where I want
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to go and what I think it means. You know what I'm saying?
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So I wonder if my word for that would be like awareness, where
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before I'm workshopping my own ideas in real time, I guess
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where before I was thinking it was all the same like my
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consciousness, where now I'm thinking, I think I like that
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better. That feels true of like
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consciousness is what I'm like essentially flowing in and my
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awareness is like where I meet it.
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And then my my beliefs then figure out my perception.
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And through all of that depends on decisions I make, where I go,
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what I do, and that creates my life.
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Is that kind of what you're saying?
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And then the fuel in the car, that's how you get.
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Yeah, OK. Yeah, OK.
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It's I think it's. One of the things.
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I got was about consciousness being a guide for you, like
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you're working with it and it's guiding you towards.
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Something. You know, but it is also.
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Here, Becky starts talking about how part of her interpretation
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of what she experienced in trance when learning about
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consciousness was that consciousness could even, in a
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sense, guide us. And it's kind of funny because
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as I'm editing this, it's actually like really quiet.
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And so I can't hardly even hear what she's saying.
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But what I do here, I'm like this idea of consciousness.
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Guiding us. Oh God, this gives me like
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10,000 more questions. I was holding the little
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microphone and I think I was having that same thought when
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she was saying it because I eventually realized that I was
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indeed holding the microphone, but the microphone was basically
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like mic down on the couch. Oh shit.
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OK, where was this? OK.
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I have consciousness is all it is.
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Perception is trying to make sense of all that is, and belief
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is how we try to organize our perception.
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Oh, OK. But sometimes we get so focused
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on our style of organization and how we're doing it and what box
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things need to go in that we're not even paying attention to
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what's going in the box and what we are actually trying to make
41:06
sense of anymore. We're focused so much on the
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action and not the reason in the 1st place or what we're trying
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to make sense of or grasp. And that's where a lot of other
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blocks come in is that we lose focus of why we started
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organizing in the first place. That is our episode for today.
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In the next episode, you're going to hear the other half of
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this conversation, and some of that conversation includes the
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idea of cringe blocks to what we want most in life.
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We also get into this, the hierarchical language that comes
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up in these spaces, more evolved, higher consciousness.
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It's something I've been thinking about a lot, just
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having all of this experience with and understanding around my
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higher self really develop and bloom in my life.
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Just don't think that the universe itself is hierarchical.
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Like yes, as a human I can decide this is better than this.
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This is better than this from my opinion for everyone or for me
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or for me based on where I'm going today.
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But overall, I don't think that's really how it is.
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Like, I don't think the universe wants me to be good or gives a
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shit if I'm not good. So anyway, I've been thinking
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about that a lot. And then we had it organically
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came up in this conversation too.
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I haven't really talked to many people about it, so you'll hear
42:32
that as well. And that is all coming in the
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next episode. All right, everybody, thanks so
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much for listening. If you want to learn more about
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my work, go to seersessions.com.