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Ep.67: Broken standards · Football Junkies podcast

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I'ma be honest with you today. I was actually getting ready to start working on the first division
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I was gonna do for the series for the offseason and whatnot
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when suddenly, you know
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I check and see that the Steelers have inquired about Trevor Lawrence and then all of Steelers Twitter just
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You know blows up in flames
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Again every single offseason and then a few hours later and Rogers is set to be released by the Jets
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And then guess what Steelers Twitter once again blows up even more
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It every single time folks every single time
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Some people are not gonna like me for what I have to say in this episode, but I
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Think it needs to be said so
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Yeah, here we go
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Here we go. So Steelers have inquired about Trevor Lawrence as I just said as well as Aaron Rodgers. Okay
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Travis Kelsey is contemplating retirement
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Kellan Moore has now become
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the official head coach for the New Orleans Saints and
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James Cook wants the bag. Okay all of this and more on the 67th episode of football junkies podcast
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Okay, I am your host with the most okay. I am your GM is not on a team right now, but don't you worry about it?
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Okay, I am your chief back road anything and everything related to the bag
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Okay, I am the man with the plan like 30 mock drafts right now in my phone from the first round second round
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Third round third round to the first round all that and more. Okay, but guess what? I'm all
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These things and more but most importantly, I am your host Kale
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You already know how these things are about to go. This might be somewhat of a long episode
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Okay, I do have my tinfoil hat on but I need you to walk with me. Okay on three one, two, three
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Let's lock in
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All
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Right folks, let's just get into the meat and potatoes of everything that is going on in the league rights now. So
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Yeah, I
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Know I'm not supposed to be the person that you know reports on these type of things
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But I have to because it just caught my attention and there's so much that I have to say about this that's connected to this
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And whatnot, which is a little bit crazy because both of the two topics actually come with one another but uh
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Yeah, let's just get into it
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So apparently according to an insider of Ryan Burr shout out to him
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the Steelers have inquired about the availability of Trevor Lawrence and
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Yeah
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Yeah, that's that's all I'll say first. Okay
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let's get into all the
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Financials and whatnot and then we'll get into everything else. Okay, because
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This is probably one of the most dumbest moves and dumbest ideas anybody could possibly think of this is something that you would do when you're
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On mad and franchise and there's a favorite player that you really like that. You just want on your team
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This is that type of stuff. Okay, so when we break things down, okay with Justin
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Justin I don't know why I think about Justin Fields Trevor Lawrence's contract
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Okay, so for starters before we go any further he has a no trade clause
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So if he was to be traded he dictates where he wants to go not the team now when we break things down
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Moving forward. Okay his cap hit this year is 17 million next year
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24 million the year after that 35 million the year after that
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47 million. Okay, and then the two years after that is
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78.5 and then
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74.8 million those are his cap hits
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Okay, but when we break things down by the cap, okay
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His base salary this year is only 2 million his cap hit is 17 million as I just said his
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base salary for next year is 2 million and then the year after that is 6 million and then the year after that is
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11 million and in the last two years it is 50 million and then 53.3 million. So
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This is what I will say about this
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This is a very bad decision. Okay, and the reason why I say that is because
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It'll be one thing if the team was completely built, right?
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There's not a lot of holes on the team, you know, all you really needed was just a quarterback, right?
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Then this is when you make that type of move. Okay, but this isn't this isn't a type of roster
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that you you know
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You know give up a first or a second or maybe two first in the second and the third or whatever the case may be
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To get someone like a Trevor Lawrence Trevor Lawrence does not move the needle
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It does not make you closer to being a contender
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It does not move the needle to the point where oh you're in the same realm of you know
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The the Super Bowl caliber teams it doesn't I'm sorry
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I'm just being honest with you Trevor Lawrence has not lived up to that first overall pick
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Okay, he's overpaid and he's just not that good folks
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He's just not that good when when we look at this right because I decided to do a comparison
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I did a comparison between Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields and then Trevor Lawrence and Russell Wilson
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Okay, according to pro football reference shout out today
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So when we look at things Trevor Lawrence had a lower completion percentage against Justin Fields
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Trevor Lawrence's completion percentage was 60.6 while Justin Fields was 65.8
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Granted Trevor Lawrence threw more touchdowns
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Okay at 11, but he also threw seven picks
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whereas Justin Fields only threw five touchdowns in one pick we all know because
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After I think it was due to the Colts of the Raiders game. They benched him then they put in Russell Wilson
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Okay, but when we look things with Trevor Lawrence and Russell Wilson, okay
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Still it's the same thing Russell Wilson has a higher completion percentage at 63.7%
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He also has more touchdowns and less interceptions than Trevor Lawrence
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So I say all that to say this if a 36 year old quarterback in Russell Wilson
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who by odds do I not want to be on the Steelers this upcoming season and
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Justin Fields who is still trying to find his way within the league
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Have better completion percentage and somewhat better seasons than what Trevor Lawrence has had then
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Why would you want to make a move for someone like a Trevor Lawrence and granted?
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I understand that as a GM you are supposed to evaluate every single position on your team and
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Figure out what positions need to be fixed and what positions are fine. I understand that but at the same time
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You are not going to inquire about someone like this if you have not had the thought or the idea
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To go after someone like a Trevor Lawrence, but at the same time shortly after this report came out and in it
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I don't know why I'm thinking about NASA an
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ESPN reporter Michael D Rocko was told by Jaguars least league source and I quote
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There's no chance that this could happen. He also said that this move was quote-unquote ridiculous
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So either one or two things is true
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either the Jaguars Lee league source that told Michael D Rocko that if that there was no chance and that you know, it's ridiculous is lying or
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Somebody else within the Jaguars front office or or whatever told Ryan Burr something just to put something out
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One of the two but the fact of the matter is the Steelers are not in the position to make this type of move
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You cannot make this type of move when one you have a left tackle who is very inconsistent and
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Really has not lived up to the hype of being
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You know drafted as high as he was and you have a rookie right tackle who is coming off of a major injury
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On top of that, you do not have a number one wide receiver
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So why in the world would you want to?
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Potentially trade for any quarterback and this is for any of the quarterbacks that people have you know
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Will throw out where they be Matthew Stafford or Kirk Cousins or anybody else?
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Why would you want to trade for anybody if you know that the team is not set for them to be successful?
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And on top of that you do not have a coaching staff that would help them and bring the best out of them
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Why would you make this type of move again? I say all that to say this?
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Buckle up Steelers fans because this is gonna be a long offseason. Okay
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Because the quarterback position is about to be a carousel. Okay
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You have people within the Steelers front office that are torn between the both of them
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And then you also have a section of people within the front office that doesn't want neither one of them
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So there's there's so much discourse right now on what exactly?
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The Steelers want to do with their quarterback that you don't know exactly how things are gonna go and grant
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I understand Justin Fields. You got to give him a chance. You really do have to give him a chance
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You really really really do but the fact of the matter is
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Either one or two things are gonna happen this offseason
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Either they're gonna make a trade for somebody or they're just gonna stick with Justin Fields or Russell Wilson
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One of those things are going to happen
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Now am I gonna be the person that has a tin foil hat on and say, you know, whether they're smoke those flames
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Yes, I will be today
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Because you're just not about to go to Trevor Lawrence. You're not about to call for Trevor Lawrence. You're just not about to do that
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No, no, no, no, no, you're not about to do that
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Keep your eye on this story
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Because I feel like there's a good chance that if things go left with the Justin Fields
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You know negotiations as well as the Russell Wilson negotiations. I think they would spin the block on someone like a Trevor Lawrence. I
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Think they would even spin the block on someone maybe like a columnary
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I would not be surprised by the end of this week
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another report comes out that they have inquired about columnary or they've inquired about I
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Don't know Kirk Cousins or Dak Prescott or any of those guys. I would not be surprised but
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This is what happens when you go through that transition period
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From your franchise quarterback to finding your next franchise quarterback
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now let's get into this whole Aaron Rodgers debacle because
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once again
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We have to talk about him, unfortunately
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But according to multiple insiders Aaron Rodgers is set to be released from the New York Jets
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Okay
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Now let's get into these statements that have been put out by both Aaron Glenn and their G other GM Darren
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Moghi as well as their owner, Woody Johnson
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Okay, so let's do the first one with Aaron Glenn in the GM and I quote last week
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We met with Aaron and shared that our intention was to move in a different direction that quarterback
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It was important to have this discussion now to provide clarity and enable each of us the proper time to plan for our respective
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Futures we want to thank him for the leadership passion and dedication
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He brought to the organization and wish him success moving forward end quote. That's from Aaron Glenn in the GM
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Okay, now we look at Woody Johnson's quote
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Maybe a little bit similar
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Maybe a little bit different. I don't know you are the only person that can you know decipher that so here goes
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In that quote I personally want to thank Aaron for his time at the New York Jets
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His arrival in 2023 was met with unbridled excitement and I will forever be grateful
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That he chose to join us to continue his Hall of Fame career from day one
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He embodied all that it meant to be a New York jet
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Embraced our fans and immersed himself in our city
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That is what I remember most when I look back at his time here
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He will always be welcome and I wish him only the best in whatever he chooses to do next end quote
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And that's from Woody Johnson now when we look at the financials with this
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Okay, the Jets will still have to take a 49 million dollar dead cap hit, right?
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But most likely this is going to be a post June 1st designation
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Meaning that the 23.5 million dollar cap hit will be carried until June 1st
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However, when it drops to 14 million the Jets will save 9.5 million in cap
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But will take a 35 million dollar cap hit in 2026
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So either way they are still facing some type of backlash and they do have multiple options where they could you know
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Break it down so that they can you know stretch out the cap hit just so they don't take it all directly
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Or they can just take it all directly and then you don't have to worry about it
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You know moving forward but all in all this was expected
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There's not a whole lot really to say about this
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But I don't want to be the person that told you so but I told you so okay
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I called this from the minute that this happened that this was not going to end well
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And it wasn't even to be super negative or whatever
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It was just a simple fact that someone like an Aaron Rodgers at times you have to question
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How much is he committed to the game?
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Whereas someone like a Tom Brady or Peyton Manning you never have to question that
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When Tom went to Tampa Bay, he was committed you want to know how committed he was they were doing
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practice at the park
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During kovic during the height of kovic. Okay, Peyton Manning
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He was fully committed when he went to the Broncos fully committed with it
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So I say all that to say this I
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Feel like there are so many bridges that have been burned with Aaron Rodgers that I think
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Teams view him more as a liability more than the asset and granted
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I understand you know sometimes we can burn our own bridges and we can definitely mess up
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You know certain relationships that we have but come on man
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Come on. It's starting to look like you know you might just be just a backup quarterback at this point
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And granted I understand you know some people will say well
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He didn't have a good offensive coordinator or he didn't have this or didn't have that they got all of his receivers
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They got some of his boys. They did everything even got a person that used to work with him in Green Bay
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It made him the offensive coordinator. They did all of that and guess what it still was not enough
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I think at this point thing Aaron has to have a real conversation with himself and
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Possibly just you know say you know what it's time. I understand
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You know your body tells you one thing, but your mind says something else, but at this point just walk away
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Walk away from the game of football you have nothing else to prove in the game of football
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You will go down in history as one of the best
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quarterbacks of all time
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And you will go down in history as well as one of the greatest throwers of the ball not to mention
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You're gonna get a gold jacket so there's no need for you to continue to keep playing
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When we all know that going well, you're really not committed to this thing
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So I say all that to say this at this point
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The options for Aaron Rodgers is very slim
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So for any Steelers fan out there because this goes back to the Steelers as well any Steelers fan out there that says
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Oh, we should try to get Aaron Rodgers. No
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No, no, no
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no because you know why guess what's gonna happen any rifts any problems any
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Disagreements that are happening within the locker room guess what it's gonna be made for everybody
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They know because why you're on the Pat McAfee show and if I'm not mistaken
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I think there was a report from I think either Diana Rusini or or somebody that said that one of the factors
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For the Jets cutting Aaron Rodgers was because he was on the Pat McAfee show and they didn't want him on the Pat McAfee show anymore
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so at this point just be immediate personality at this point just be immediate personality
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That's on the Pat McAfee show, you know every Tuesday or whenever and just go from there. Okay
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Because you trying to go to another team. No granted. I understand he can throw the ball really good
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It looks amazing great. But guess what not on the Steelers? Okay, if we make this move for the for Aaron Rodgers
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I'm telling you I will go on a whole hour rant about this team in the state of this team
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Oh and guess what apparently?
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Another bombshell with this whole Trevor Lawrence situation. I thought we were done talking about it, but clearly we're not
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Apparently according to Noah's track bind from all Steelers talk
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There has been a direct source within the Steelers front office that has said and I quote simply not true
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So I'm saying all that to say this folks somebody is lying
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Somebody is lying
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Why in the world of all the fan bases in the world you could have done this to the Cardinals
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You could have done this to the Cowboys. You could have done this to the Saints. You can does to the Giants
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You could have done it with anybody else
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But you decided to do it with the one team the one team that's going through some foolishness right now with their quarterback position
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Why?
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Why?
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Why?
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Why would you do that?
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Why would you do that? This is exactly what what the senior Pittsburgh Steelers source said? Okay, and I quote
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There has never been nor was there at any time implied or directly in imposition about Trevor Lawrence
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Whoa, and this is exactly why folks sometimes you got to be careful with your sources because
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Somebody's lying. I don't know who it is because I don't have you know the direct knowledge with
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With any of these folks, maybe I will you know soon, but uh somebody lying
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Somebody lying you know what I'll make a phone call. I'm once this
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Episode is out. I'll make a phone call with somebody try to see if I can get some
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Get some inside information. You know, I I think I might have an insider
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You know with the Cleveland Browns and whatnot shoot. I might even have an insider with the 49ers. Who knows?
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Hey, I might even be the person that tells you where T. Higgins is gonna go before everybody else does who knows
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You just can't make this stuff up man, you cannot make this stuff up somebody is lying
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I'ma keep on saying this until the cows come home think about it
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Yes, I have my tinfoil hat on. Yes. It's a new tinfoil hat on as well
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But let's get into the more serious topic and that is Travis Kelsey contemplating
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retirement
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And granted retirement, you know
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The the the retirement talk as a whole is not something that you can be like super like funny about and whatnot
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Sometimes you have to take it, you know super seriously, but
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Based off of what I heard because I actually watched the episode
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You can tell by Travis Kelsey's demeanor that that he's just like he's tired. He's beat up
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For him to say what he said
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Definitely lets you know like he has more years of experience
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Definitely lets you know like he has more years behind him than ahead of him
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I would not be surprised if he plays one more season
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They win the championship and he just rides off into the sunset
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But let's just get into the quote that he put out. Okay, so this is what he says in that quote
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I know everybody wants to know whether or not i'm playing next year and right now i'm just kicking everything down the road
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I'm kicking every can I can down the road. I'm not making any crazy decisions
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But right now the biggest thing is just being there for my teammates and being there for my coaches
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Understanding that there's a lot that's going into this thing
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The fact that we keep going to these aFC championships and super bowls
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That means i'm playing an extra three games more than everybody else in the entire league
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That's a lot of wear and tear on your body. It's a lot of time spent in the building
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That process can be grueling it can weigh on you
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It can make you better and it can drive you crazy at the same time
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Right now it was one of the things where it was driving me crazy this year
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It happens as you tail off towards the back
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nine of your career
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That's that's a weird thing
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As you see yourself or feel yourself not having the success that you once used to have
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It's a tough pill to swallow on top of that to not be there in the biggest moments knowing your team is counting on you
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Those are extremely hard things. It's just a tough reality
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I'm not half-assing it. I'm fully here for them and I think I can play
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It's just whether or not i'm motivated or if it's the best decision for me as a man as a human as a person to take on
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That responsibility end quote now that is a lot for what he said
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But he's being honest and he's being transparent. It does take a toll on your body
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Especially the position that you play where you are going to get hit at some point
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You are going to take a big hit from somebody
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and so
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This is the price of going deep into the playoffs granted you get to play a little bit longer
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Granted you do have a chance to hold up a lombardi
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But at the end of the day as you get older it takes longer for you to recover, you know
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From each and every season
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And so travis kelsey is letting it be known like listen
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I'm here for my teammates. I'm here for everybody else
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but right now
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I'm not really thinking about that
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You know
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We'll when when the time comes for a decision we'll cross that bridge when we cross that bridge and i'm 100%
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You know in agreement with him
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But if he does retire he's going to get a gold jacket
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He's going into the hall of fame. He is one of the greatest tight ends of all time
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I'm not saying he's the greatest but i'm saying he's one of the greatest
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Okay, because in my mind I still think it's gronk. Okay, just being honest here
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If you guys saw
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The run that gronk was on in his prime before all those injuries started to stack up
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Unguardable, okay
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This dude was doing it all
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They would have safeties come down in the box to try to see if they can just stop him still didn't work
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But at the same time I do believe and i'll continue to say it
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If travis kelsey does decide to play again
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I think this will probably be the last year
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I don't think he's going to be playing, you know, another two or three or five years. I just don't see it
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But we have to talk about somebody that's going back to the bayou and that is kellen moore. That's right folks kellen moore
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Is now the saints head coach
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I
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Said it I said it I said it kellen don't do it
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Don't do it kellen. Don't do it and guess what you did. You decided hey
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I'm still gonna do it though and he did it and now he's the head coach for the saints
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Probably one of the worst jobs you could have ever took in to be a first-time head coach
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You're gonna take this this burning pile of garbage you're gonna do this
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brother either you're a magician or you do voodoo because
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They are gonna have to do some serious sorcery in order to turn this team around
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But let's get into the quote that uh saints owner gail benson has put out and I quote
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At the start of the interview process. It was important to find a head coach who was the right fit for the new orleans saints organization
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Through the search process it became clear that kellen is the right person to help us reestablish a winning program and culture
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That our fans are accustomed to and have come to accept
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I will also like to thank darren rizzi for his service as an interim head coach and leading our team this past season
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I am truly great for him end quote and this comes from katherine terrell from esp and this comes from her article shout out to her
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This was a horrible move. Okay, horrible horrible horrible horrible move and the reason why I say that is because
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Usually when you become a head coach, you don't want to have a little bit of flexibility, right?
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You got a you know, a lot of cap space. You got you know, a high draft pick
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You got something that you can build off of right? There is nothing that you can really build off of with the saints
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There's uncertainty with derrick car
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The roster is going through someone of a rebuild. Okay
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What exactly do you have that you can say? Hey, this is something that we can build off of nothing
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Chris allame probably does not want to be there anymore
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And I wouldn't be surprised if there's other players that don't want to be a part of a rebuild as well
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So what exactly do you have not to mention you have no cap space because why all of those years of continuing to?
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Push money down the road and push money down the road and keep on kicking the can down the down the road
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And now guess what the cans right there and it's time for you to pay up
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So now you are going to have to wait until your books are cleaned
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Then you can try to see if you can finagle some people to you know
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Come in and you know play for you and whatnot
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Unless you're going to get Kenny picking you're going to get Kenny pick a 30 plus million
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Get Kenny picking you're going to get Kenny pick a 30 plus million. So what exactly?
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Made you think that this was a great opportunity. I would have waited and just stayed
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with the eagles for one more year
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And then by then you would have a more clear cut, you know idea of what destinations you will want to go to
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Not just choose one of the worst jobs that everybody has said that it is a horrible job to take just because of the situation
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That they're in right now. You're going to have to go through a hard
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Rebuild with this team
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You have to figure out what you're going to do at quarterback. You have to figure out what you're going to do at
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You know receiver running back
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You already know that's fine because you got alvin camara and you have to figure out what you're going to do with defense
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Is cam jordy going to want to stay there for a rebuild?
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I don't think so is damario davis going to want to stay there for rebuild
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I don't think so. It's tyrone matthews going to want to stay there. I don't think so
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So you have a lot of decisions that you are going to have to make moving forward and then not to mention
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You're bringing on brandon staley
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brandon staley really that guy
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that guy
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The guy that choked away a playoff game against the jackwars that guy come on, please
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Give me a break. I would not be surprised within the first two years
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There are insiders that are talking about you know various situations about kellen moore and how bad his coaching is or how bad?
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The situation is and how they want out I would not be surprised but on to the final topic and that is james cook
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Wanting 15 million a year so recently he was on ig live and on the pin comment. It just said 15 million a year
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16 million a year now granted. I understand that you know, he definitely wants to get paid and that's perfectly fine
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But we have to look at everything from a broad perspective. Okay, so when we look at it
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He's had back-to-back seasons of a thousand rushing yards, which is great
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But this year this was his best year by far. Okay, he had
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1009 rushing yards. He averaged
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4.9 rushing yards per carry and he had 16 touchdowns 16 touchdowns
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Compared to last year. He only had two touchdowns
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James cook is a very productive running back
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But paying him 15 million. I don't know
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Do I think they'll probably try to get as close as they can to maybe 15?
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I don't think he's you know in the same conversation as a saquon barkley or christian mcaffrey or alvin camara or
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A jonathan taylor. I don't think he's in that same tier now. Is he in that maybe second to third tier?
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Now we have a you know a legitimate conversation that we have to have
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But he's not in that first tier of running backs now the bills have options
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They can franchise tag them they can you know do all different types of tags they can try to see and you know
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Maybe come to a mutual understanding with like a good number that benefits everybody
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There's different ways that they can do about this right, but when we look at spot racks, you know market value for james cook
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It's a four-year forty point eight million dollar deal which is around ten point two million a year
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Which is you know relatively good now do I think he maybe deserves a little bit more?
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Possibly you can probably bump it up to maybe about 11 maybe 12
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But either way we look at it one or two things are going to happen
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Either they're going to give him the 15
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But they're going to structure in a way to where he basically gets
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You know at least 50 to 60 percent of the money upfront or they're going to try to backload it or
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They'll just let him just hit free agency, and they'll just draft one because you have people like omari on Hampton
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by show to and Caleb Johnson Devon Neil
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quinch on
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a junkie's trevion Henderson you have a slew of
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Different types of running backs in this upcoming draft that you can get
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So the bills do have options if they do not want to pay James cook 15 million
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