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NFL DFS Week 10 Takedown Breakdown | Winning DraftKings Lineups & Strategy Review · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear, you lift up.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka TOTEG and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for another edition of the Takedown Breakdown here on
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  Speaker 2: of free shows out there throughout the week. Gonna break
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  Speaker 2: down all things from the week ten NFL DFS main slate.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have the perfect lineup. We'll talk about the stack
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  Speaker 2: rankings and the stone over at ship a Nation. We'll
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  Speaker 2: review the twenty dollars and the five fifty five million maker,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll break down some other stuff in between. Got
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  Speaker 2: my guys Naids and mister Bellman here with me as always,
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  Speaker 2: and Matt, I'm gonna start with you. What's going on, man,
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  Speaker 2: how's your Monday morning going so far?
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  Speaker 3: Morning's going okay. Real rough weekend for me in the
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  Speaker 3: DFS streets. So it was a struggle to get up
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  Speaker 3: this morning. But I happen to be on here with
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  Speaker 3: two guys who know what they're talking about. And I
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  Speaker 3: will say the twenty dollars million maker winner was a
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  Speaker 3: guy named Standish yesterday, and I know Standish, not personally
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  Speaker 3: in real life, but through some discord and stuff. Real
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  Speaker 3: good guy. Couldn't be happier for him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that too. I went over and looked
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  Speaker 2: and see who won it. And lineup's incredible. We'll talk
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  Speaker 2: about it here in a little bit. It's I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how I didn't get there with him. I'll say, like,
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  Speaker 2: I feel like he was just on all the sharpest stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Looks incredible, great lineup. Congrats to him on winning a
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  Speaker 2: million dollars naids. What's going on?
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  Speaker 1: My man?
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  Speaker 2: I could see there's a little pop it up for us, man,
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  Speaker 2: pop pop up that chest a little bit show and
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  Speaker 2: who's gonna get it done tonight? I'll be talking to
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  Speaker 2: Hoopster in title later here on the channel two pm Eastern.
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  Speaker 2: You guys can check that show out. Breaking down the
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  Speaker 2: Eagles at the Green Bay Packers for the Monday night
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  Speaker 2: football game. Million dollars up top tonight the big Mega
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  Speaker 2: forty four. Forty four got a chance to chop this
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  Speaker 2: mustache off. I do have a ticket to the big
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  Speaker 2: Show tonight, so hopefully I can get that one done.
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  Speaker 2: And then there's a twenty dollars with five hundred camp
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  Speaker 2: top and need's what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Man? Man?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Doing good?
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  Speaker 4: Was a pretty pretty solid weekend in general, kind of
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  Speaker 4: right there in contention, like many of the members over
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  Speaker 4: the nation, yourself included, looking at the lineup, it's like
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  Speaker 4: a two B two off of my build there, and
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  Speaker 4: we'll talk about that when when it talks to and
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  Speaker 4: comes to some late swap stuff, right, and some decisions
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  Speaker 4: there where I worked with you kind of behind the
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  Speaker 4: scenes right to work on some late swap right to
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  Speaker 4: kind of put yourself in potential, especially when you know
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  Speaker 4: you don't have the a Chan forty one piece right
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  Speaker 4: or forty three piece in that early window. So going
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  Speaker 4: back to the importance of late swap, which we talked
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  Speaker 4: about so much on the show. But yeah, no, overall,
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  Speaker 4: pretty good weekend. Matt said he didn't have a great weekend,
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  Speaker 4: but he unked on everybody on the old Thursday night
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  Speaker 4: showdown slate, so you can kind of loop that into
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  Speaker 4: the old weekend there.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously that helps.
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  Speaker 4: But congrats to him with that sixteen for what sixty
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  Speaker 4: stacks on Thursday there, and obviously, yeah, big big game
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  Speaker 4: tonight here at home in Lambeau, so looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and of note, that counts as week ten, Matt,
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  Speaker 2: So you're crushing it in week ten. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 2: what happened yesterday. You're still having an amazing Week ten
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL season. Philly. Fantom's already on you, Nate,
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  Speaker 2: saying wearing black for your funeral tonight. You know he's
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  Speaker 2: a big Eagles guy talking that stuff. Danny, you gotta
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  Speaker 2: come back man, two pm Eastern Hoop's gonna want to
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  Speaker 2: hear from you today and I appreciate this apology. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure he does too, but in case he's not watching,
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  Speaker 2: you got to come back this afternoon. Shout out to
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  Speaker 2: everybody else joining us, our man Shawn who who joined
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  Speaker 2: us on the show recently as well and Takedown Breakdown,
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  Speaker 2: as did Go Collect, as did New and so first
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  Speaker 2: three and are the ones that love being a part
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  Speaker 2: of it. Shout out to Joanne Remo, Michael, Danny's here.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, there's lots of you guys out there.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Timothy, everybody joining us. So let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about this slate yesterday. I'm going to quickly pull up
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  Speaker 2: the perfect lineup one quick note before I do, just
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  Speaker 2: of note. It'll be noted this show, and it'll be
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  Speaker 2: noted this afternoon. But the one ninety nine with the
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  Speaker 2: draw for the five to fifty five milli ticket giveaway
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  Speaker 2: ends today. So it's the rest of season NFL and
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  Speaker 2: college football full entry into the ship at games with
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  Speaker 2: six more weeks to go for a chance to play
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  Speaker 2: for that. It includes saber sim it's all that. It
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  Speaker 2: works out to about three dollars per slate, two to
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  Speaker 2: three dollars a slate if you count all the showdowns
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  Speaker 2: and the Thanksgiving slates and all that stuff, the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl, et cetera. So the one ninety nine deal
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  Speaker 2: is the best deal. Anybody that's got in already, we
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you. Anybody that wants to get in, got to
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  Speaker 2: get in before locked tonight to get in that draw
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  Speaker 2: for the five hundred and fifty five million maker ticket.
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  Speaker 2: So let's go to the perfect lineup, Matt, and I'll
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  Speaker 2: start with you. Davis Mills crapped up onto some teams there,
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  Speaker 2: and I will say the interesting thing about that, Oh
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  Speaker 2: how do you get on Davis Mills? Blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 2: We have all these conversations throughout. We're gonna be nailing
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  Speaker 2: all those people that have these conversations today. Actually just
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  Speaker 2: pin them right down with the stone and all this stuff,
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  Speaker 2: because I think a lot of people have a tough
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  Speaker 2: time going through it. We spent time to try and
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  Speaker 2: help you guys get better at it. But the Jaguars
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  Speaker 2: were one of the most popular defenses on the slate,
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  Speaker 2: and you got the Houston team that's free against them,
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  Speaker 2: a forty five hundred dollars quarterback, a sixty seven hundred
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  Speaker 2: dollars Collins, Kirk Urman, Hammason on him forty one hundred bucks. Schultz,
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  Speaker 2: who Hoop usually likes like a lot of these guys
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  Speaker 2: had capability. Not that they all got there, but I
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  Speaker 2: guess it's you know, it can happen, right And with
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  Speaker 2: Nico Collins Davis Mills being the only two that show
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  Speaker 2: up in the perfect lineup, it kind of makes a
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  Speaker 2: ton of sense. The rest of the lineup, though, outside
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  Speaker 2: of Naylor, is not that crazy, and you could plug
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  Speaker 2: in pretty much anyone for Naylor that you want to
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  Speaker 2: call chalk and just still get there in the Millie.
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  Speaker 2: So go ahead, Matt, I'll let you start and break
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  Speaker 2: this one down and thought.
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  Speaker 3: To you, yeah, I think obviously the first place you
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  Speaker 3: look at is the Mills piece. Mills with Nico here,
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  Speaker 3: you know, setting aside that a Channon and Gibbs both
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  Speaker 3: went for four plus as far as Mills go, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it looked like the Jacksonville d was on their way
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  Speaker 3: to just absolutely smashing the slate at what was I
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  Speaker 3: think the highest doone defense ended up not coming to
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  Speaker 3: fruition because of that fourth quarter. I'm a little salty
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  Speaker 3: because I played a lot of cheap quarterbacks. I played
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of Gabriel and a bunch of Shock who
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  Speaker 3: were both good but not as good as Mills. You
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  Speaker 3: needed that, obviously, Houston stack if you wanted to get
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  Speaker 3: all the way to the top and in the perfect
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  Speaker 3: lineup that is and man Mills. In that fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 3: I think they scored three touchdowns. Nico got there with
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  Speaker 3: just volume, monster game for him, just really good pieces
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  Speaker 3: around that. Jalen Naylor obviously is a very surprising piece,
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  Speaker 3: but to your point, like put Kyle Williams in there
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  Speaker 3: and it's basically the same thing. So yeah, really really
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  Speaker 3: interesting mix of players with a bunch of guys that
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  Speaker 3: you kind of expected to be on you know, at
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  Speaker 3: least close to the perfect lineups, and then some outliers
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  Speaker 3: and Mills and Naylor.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, two forty. By the way, when we get to Standish,
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  Speaker 2: we talked about his incredible lineup and taking down the
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  Speaker 2: million the twenty dollars later very close, I mean two
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  Speaker 2: thirty nine and change is not that far off from
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  Speaker 2: two seventy five. But to your point, you could drop
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  Speaker 2: the D down, move the thirty one hundred dollars up
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  Speaker 2: to like a Judy or something if you if someone
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  Speaker 2: wasn't playing Judkins, and maybe you get a D that
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  Speaker 2: didn't fully come through, but Judy still scored and you'd
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  Speaker 2: be pretty damn close anyway. So the point is when
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  Speaker 2: people like, well there's no point in reviewing the perfect lineup,
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  Speaker 2: it's like again, we're not We're not focused on the
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  Speaker 2: results outside of you know, the results are what actually happened.
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  Speaker 2: This is how the puzzle pieces could have went together.
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  Speaker 2: But we're trying to learn what people did, how they
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  Speaker 2: got there. We're looking at player pools, exposures, correlations. We're
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  Speaker 2: using the tools to reverse engineer how one might get there.
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  Speaker 2: Or by the way, like we always say it, like
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  Speaker 2: everyone wants to win the twenty dollars million maker, myself included.
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  Speaker 2: But if you if you follow short and you win
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  Speaker 2: ten grand in a fifty dollars single entry or something
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  Speaker 2: like that, that's a damn good week in NFLDFS for
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  Speaker 2: most people. So I will say, unless you're playing ten
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  Speaker 2: to twenty grand a week, winning ten k is pretty nice.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes you're not going to get all the way there,
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  Speaker 2: And it's not about getting the perfect score in the
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  Speaker 2: review process, it's just looking at it, reverse engineering back
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  Speaker 2: and then seeing what we can find from their needs.
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  Speaker 2: I'll kick it over to you. Any thoughts on sort
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  Speaker 2: of the way this sets up and what you see here,
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  Speaker 2: And it's more about like slate comments too, like just
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  Speaker 2: pieces you'll notice that we'll get into in a sec.
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  Speaker 2: But anything else you see here.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, So the first thing that stands out to me,
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  Speaker 4: right is how how could you land on Davis Mills? Well,
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  Speaker 4: First of all, the Jags defense, like you talked about, right,
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  Speaker 4: was projected to be the high stone defense did come
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  Speaker 4: in as the high stone. So right there, you also
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  Speaker 4: leverage that he's forty five hundred dollars right where it's
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  Speaker 4: like one of the cheapest players on the board outside
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  Speaker 4: of these wide receiver threes and fours right on the slate,
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  Speaker 4: and you look at the stone, you look at that
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  Speaker 4: pass defense for the Jags. Guess what not very good?
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  Speaker 4: Forty five hundred dollars and a sixty seven hundred dollars
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  Speaker 4: out for receiver. Avoid all the ancillary pieces, right, you
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  Speaker 4: know coaching scheme, Right, you have to at least have
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  Speaker 4: some faith in these donkeys to realize that, hey, Davis
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  Speaker 4: Mills is coming in, let's just get our best player
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  Speaker 4: of the football and just skinny stack that right, and
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  Speaker 4: just any of the additional points from the ant larry
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  Speaker 4: wide receivers. You're saying, hey, my guys are gonna my
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  Speaker 4: other guys in the lineup are going to beat them, and.
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  Speaker 1: Those points are tied to Davis Mills.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm going to get those points that way and
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  Speaker 4: just hope Nico Collins kind of does his big thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I like that.
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  Speaker 4: Not only that, it also leveraged right. People were going
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  Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy, people were going all these other guys down
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  Speaker 4: in that five k and forty nine hundred dollars range.
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  Speaker 4: Not many people were going to Davis Mill as they
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  Speaker 4: were saying, Oh, I'm gonna plug in ETN sometimes and
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  Speaker 4: maybe the Jacksonville defense in this game is going to
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  Speaker 4: be Jacksonville walks in here and just smashes this team.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that was really tough, really sharp, the
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  Speaker 4: HM We're gonna spend a ton of time on that.
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  Speaker 4: He was projected to be thirty plus percent owned coming
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  Speaker 4: into the slate and after looking at the leverage lane
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  Speaker 4: show that you guys did, and just looking at the
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  Speaker 4: pieces and the fact that hey, you can only play
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  Speaker 4: three running backs on any given lineup maximum.
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  Speaker 1: You knew CMC was there.
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  Speaker 4: You knew all these other guys were up there, right,
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  Speaker 4: the the Judkins of the world, the Rico Dawdles of
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  Speaker 4: the world. Well, there's three guys right there that people
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  Speaker 4: wanted to play. There is no physical way looking at
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  Speaker 4: that team Total four Buffalo and seeing thirty plus implied points,
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  Speaker 4: nobody wants to play Josh Allen because of the price
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  Speaker 4: and not having a really condensed target trae right where
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  Speaker 4: people kind of hone in on four building lineups.
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  Speaker 1: So you knew James Cook had to get steamed because
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  Speaker 1: people wanted to.
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  Speaker 4: Play that team total right, and James Cook came into
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  Speaker 4: the second highest owed running back behind Ricododo opposite side
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  Speaker 4: of the a Chan So thought that was a really
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  Speaker 4: really sharp play. You look at the stone, I mean,
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  Speaker 4: popped off the page. Probably one of the best spots
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  Speaker 4: on I think it rivals Jonathan Taylor that one week
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  Speaker 4: we talked about his number on the stone there. Outside
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  Speaker 4: of that, it was just pretty much ceiling plays in
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  Speaker 4: good game environments, right, Jamiir Gibbs, Jameson Williams, they both
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  Speaker 4: can have a ceiling because salary does matter. Jamison Williams
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  Speaker 4: forty nine hundred. It's not eighty four hundred dollars Amon
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  Speaker 4: Ross Saint Brown with an eight k Jamior Gibbs. So
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  Speaker 4: when you're looking at combo packs from the same team
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  Speaker 4: that are also implied to score thirty points, you can
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  Speaker 4: get that way with having a cheaper wide receiver right
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  Speaker 4: to kind of cut down that combined total salary. So overall,
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  Speaker 4: I think a lot of these plays we're gonna review
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  Speaker 4: in some winning lineups and overall good week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna bring the stone up in a second,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll just say, like another piece that just makes
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  Speaker 2: a ton of sense to me when people look at
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  Speaker 2: this and like oh, no point, because how would we
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  Speaker 2: get to this, And like, here's an example, Davis Mills
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  Speaker 2: fourteen hundred dollars more gets you Jared Goff at fifty
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  Speaker 2: nine hundred. Well, now I gotta find money. Well, let's
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  Speaker 2: take McBride down to Kittle at forty five hundred and
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  Speaker 2: say that if we went to Jared Goff, that fits
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  Speaker 2: with your Jamison Williams and your Gibbs. And since we
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  Speaker 2: don't have a piece of that San Francisco game and
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  Speaker 2: we're not on CMC, maybe we throw in Kittle. By
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  Speaker 2: the way, Kittle and Gibbs my leverage lane main two
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  Speaker 2: pieces on Saturday. It's not a victory lap as much
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  Speaker 2: as say it's it's I kept explaining to people how
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  Speaker 2: those pieces go together even though they're not in the
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  Speaker 2: same game. You have to think about that stuff like
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  Speaker 2: who can rival CMC Gibbs And if you're on Gibbs
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  Speaker 2: and you're not on CMC, but you think San Francisco
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  Speaker 2: is gonna put up the points, how could those happen?
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  Speaker 2: George Kittle's the guy that can score touchdowns. He could
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  Speaker 2: score multiple Actually it's possible, So that would at least
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  Speaker 2: make sense versus some of the other spots there. So
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  Speaker 2: just noting that you could almost take a zero with
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  Speaker 2: that swap at Naylor and still win the twenty dollars
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  Speaker 2: million maker, meaning like people are like, oh, but you
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  Speaker 2: still wouldn't have got to Nailer. That's fine. Let's let's
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  Speaker 2: zero out Naylor. Move Mills up to Golf, move McBride
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  Speaker 2: down to Kittle, and you're gonna be close. It might
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  Speaker 2: be close. Maybe standers still slightly gets us. What maybe
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  Speaker 2: your thirty three hundred dollars guy got four points or something.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just doing dollar for a dollar here. Or your
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  Speaker 2: thirty two hundred dollars guy got four points, that's enough.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know the exact math. I'm just showing you
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  Speaker 2: ways to see it, so little things like that are important.
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  Speaker 2: I'm definitely gonna bring up the stone to see how
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  Speaker 2: people can find this as well. Nads, you might have
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  Speaker 2: to hit up Philly in the discord says he wants
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  Speaker 2: a sandwich bet. Get a little sandwich bet action in there,
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  Speaker 2: for sure, our man go collects as we ten still
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  Speaker 2: over yet you're right, I'm hoping to make my week, though,
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  Speaker 2: I'll flip it if if Bellman had Thursday I'll definitely
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  Speaker 2: take Monday to make my week up if that works. Man,
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  Speaker 2: this was a great call in the discord yesterday. I said,
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  Speaker 2: how about them Saints. We got on the same page
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  Speaker 2: for that one. I definitely said. I thought about, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Carolina winning the super Bowl, the division game, the spread,
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  Speaker 2: the line. So that was the two spreads. I said,
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  Speaker 2: I said that one don't make no sense, and I
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  Speaker 2: said the Ravens one don't make no sense. And it
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  Speaker 2: almost did make sense because they tried to give away
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  Speaker 2: again and they played horribly and just relied on Tyler
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  Speaker 2: Lup for quite a while, but they ended up getting
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  Speaker 2: the job done. There. One thing I want to bring up, actually, Matt,
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go to you on this one. Andrew, who's
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  Speaker 2: always here, avid follower and support are super appreciate him
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  Speaker 2: coming in here and letting us know this stuff, says
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  Speaker 2: I lost to Davis Mills double stacks in single entry
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  Speaker 2: three max, but ADS one hundred and fifty lottery makes
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  Speaker 2: more sense. And he's not a complainer. This guy's awesome
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  Speaker 2: and you know brings it up. But I'm saying I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about this for a second because I
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  Speaker 2: think it's actually a potential leak games out there of
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  Speaker 2: if your again, I get why in a large field
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  Speaker 2: you maybe take more leverage on, you take on more risk.
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  Speaker 2: People feel better about it, but it's usually because larger
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  Speaker 2: field equal smaller buy in. And my argument is that
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if the point is correct. If you
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  Speaker 2: like something, if you like Davis Millstacks, you should like
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  Speaker 2: them anywhere, like it should be wherever you want it
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  Speaker 2: to go. But I do think my point is that
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  Speaker 2: people associate risk also with just the dollar amount, So like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: in a three dollars twenty max, I can just throw
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  Speaker 2: that in there because worst case, I lose three bucks.
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  Speaker 2: But that's what I hear so much of Matt where
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  Speaker 2: someone says, I really love this on this slate, but
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  Speaker 2: two bad I only played it in my three dollar
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  Speaker 2: It's like, if you really loved it, you gotta go, Like,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: you got to take that move. It could be a
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: game changing week for you. What's your thoughts on that?
• 14:48
  Speaker 3: I'm in I'm totally in line with you, and I
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: think for me it kind of falls into and I
• 14:54
  Speaker 3: know people look at this a little bit differently than
• 14:56
  Speaker 3: I do, but like single entry and three mac stuff,
• 15:00
  Speaker 3: I understand those tournaments are different than like one fifty
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: max contests because people can't won fifty max. But at
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, almost every contest on DraftKings
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: and every sport these days for DFS is so top
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: heavy that it's all about getting to the top and
• 15:16
  Speaker 3: basically whatever tournament you're playing. So no, I don't live
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: by the theory that if I love a guy, I'm
• 15:21
  Speaker 3: gonna play him and he's you know, a more risk
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: a play to say I'm gonna play him in like,
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: you know, only lower dollars stuff. I just don't think
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: that's a really winning mentality personally.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: Agree and Nate's I want to kick one to you
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: on the same topic because I'm gonna add it's a
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: big showdown Slate tonight. We talk a ton of showdown.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: We're always covering it back at two pm Eastern covering
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: the Slate tonight with hoop title in myself, that's another one.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: I've even heard this again from respected players, partners, people
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: around the industry in space and again, we don't have
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: to agree on everything. That's okay, it's it's actually good
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: I think in DFS to have your own mind and
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: to do things your way. And if we talk about
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: leverage lane picking your lane set, but like, oh, I
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: don't want to play my GPP lineup in a satellite
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: because they're they're totally different fields and et cetera. Sure,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: but I will say this and I'll bring it more
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: to Showdown. First of all, in Classic, if you're willing
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: to take on that extra risk of like something that
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: would win a large field tournament, it's gonna give you
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: even better odds of winning it. Even if it's quote
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: unquote the wrong way or whatever people want to say.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: It's I'm fine with it because when I win, I win.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I'm not sweating out the last point two or anything
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: like that. It's like I'll win my satellite and walk
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: away because I played to win. That's how I look
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: at that. To each your own the secondary part always
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: in Showdown. I think it's even worse when people abide
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: by this and it's just a note. It's to each
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: their own, do it your own way. Even with the
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: tools we offer, you can build them around a certain
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: you can change the settings to build differently. It's your call,
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: you control it, it's your money, it's your your stuff
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: on the line. But I'll say in Showdown, you need
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: the I mean, I am playing for the optimal. It's
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: not like this perfect lineup we're looking at like Standish
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: almost had the I two forty give or take to
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: two seventy five in Showdown, Man, you got to play
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: for the optimal. So what's the difference whether I'm playing
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: in a five dollars, a five thousand dollars, a five
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: hundred man a five hundred thousand. Man, it's to me,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I'm playing to get the optimal. So I'm playing to
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: win whether I have one lineups or one hundred and fifty.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: What's your thoughts?
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I always played the win.
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: I think you can also kind of level it up
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: right and realize that majority of the field does think
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: like you talked about off the top, right, Oh it's
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: three dollars, or it's oh this and it's just sixty
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: dollars of my portfolio. I'm just gonna throw in a set,
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: not really kind of check my results before I or
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: check my rosters and stuff, right, review the process before
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: you kind of hit the submit button. So you can
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: argue that quote unquote, there's weaker lineups in the field
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: that you're playing against. In those lower lower dollars. But regardless,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, any of these contentts regardless of the buy,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: and the top prizes are huge across any buying. I mean,
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: you can play twelve dollars single entry and win five figures,
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: et cetera. On DraftKings, you still need pretty close to
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: the lip. I mean, if you look and kind of
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: reviewed the winning lineups across single entries three max stuff,
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: two one fifty max, yeah, it might be a couple
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: points less, but it's going to be pretty close to
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: in the same ballpark, and you still need.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: The nut.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: The nutbuilds to get all the way to the top,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: So I don't really focus on it differently. If anything,
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: it just if a wonky lineup wins the twenty dollars, yeah,
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: you're probably not going to see that in your single
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: entry three max stuff just because there's not as much
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: of a wide net right where players are sprinkling and
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: won fifty sets in there. So regardless, I mean, the
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: lesson here, I think is you still got to play
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: to win, regardless of what contest, regardless of what buying
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you're playing, and the quote unquote safe plays. If you're
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: doing that, just play cash games in general. Avoid the
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: single entry stuff like that. If you're really afraid of
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: that stuff, just going to cash games. Yeah, you can
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: only two ext your money or whatever it is. But again,
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: profits profit if you stay in the game. If it's
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: a week where you I think it's gonna be spread out.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: You talk about this all the time Tambella in showdowns
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: where you love it or you hate it. If you
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: don't like it, you don't have to play your allotment
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: that you're used to playing, right, you can scale it
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: back or you could play maybe you want to play
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: cash or maybe you want to do this and just
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: scale it back some.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: You can always do that especially, and that applies to
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: main slates as well.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you like it, you got a run with it.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: That's my biggest point is because you know, I saw
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: in the thirty three hundred dollars on FanDuel yesterday the
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: winner had Kyle Williams in a Drake may second. It's like,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: if you're in on Kyle Williams, why would you not
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: want to pay it off where everybody else fears that
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: the only player in the tournament. It allowed them to
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: fit everything else. They had Gibbs, a Chan McBride. It
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: literally had the nuts, But it was a game stack
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: of New England and Tampa, which we'll get there in
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: a second, and it was be willing to take on.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: If I'm going to play Kyle Williams, it really makes
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: sense in a Drake maystack to double boost it. And
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: if I'm gonna play this lineup, I'm gonna play it
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: where I can maximize the output. How's one hundred K sound?
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So that's just the point. I think that's important to remember.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: So the other thing to remember is a lot of
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: people say, well, I only see the stakes players doing
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: this stuff. It's like they've got unlimited bankrolls, so they
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: just make these high risk calls. Where do you think
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: they got those bankrolls making high risk calls to take
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: down fields, to win top heavy tournaments, to create big
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: bank rolls, to then go make these plays again and
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: again and again. It's all correlated. And when you let
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: your mind go to that and stop worrying about the
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: picks the plays, that's the results. That's what we're looking at. Now,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: what did end up being the winning puzzle? But when
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you focus on just playing the game, that's all we
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: do at ship a nation, That's all everybody on this
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: panel does on all of our panels, we're playing the
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: game against the others that are playing the same game,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: and we're trying to outdo them. Think about Survivor, Big
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: Survivor fans. The TV show has been around somehow for
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: like a million seasons. Outplay out Last. Those all apply
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: to dfs the same.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: You have to.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Crazy enough. It still is, man. I haven't watched it
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: since like season ten, but season fifty or something I
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: saw the other day. It was talking about so yeah,
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: pretty wild. I'll do some quick hitters here, Matt, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: then we're gonna go to the Stone. I mean, Saints
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: is right up on there. But Timothy said, can we
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: talk about leveraging Chopp DWTLE with Saints DST. We can
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: talk about it again, because I know we certainly talked
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: about it yesterday on the main slid show up to
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Locke and I said, I don't want the Tyler shucks.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: It sounds like Bellman my men over here did. But
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: good for a Lave. Someone said Olave is the new Shaheed.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: That that makes sense. They move on Shaheed and now
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Olave is getting the sixty two yard bomb plus a
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: bunch more to go with it. I think he still
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: made a tent trip, which is classic Olave. But he's
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: good otherwise. But just noting it. It's not huge but
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for a cheap defense. Yesterday at load of no ownership
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and you know that Dowdle's on the other side, I said,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: if you landed here, if you had reservations, like the
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: next comment said, Dowdell fade was a no ball move.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: It was like you could come in underweight on Dowdley,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: you don't have to. That's another topic for two seconds.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: We got it all right here, clearly like Dowdell was
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: in a good spot, but there was reasons it was
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: like a no ball thing if you weren't on him.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't like the offense of the Saints, I said,
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I think it'll be a lower scoring game that the
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: Saints are able to control, and therefore that would make
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: sense for a twenty four hundred dollars defense if it's
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: like a ten to seven game or something like that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: And it ended up being a little bit more I think.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: But just noting it. But the point of the fade
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: if you're playing single entry, so you're you know, the
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: leverage lane watchers out there, Yeah, anything you're playing is
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: a lock, and anything you're not playing is a fade.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: But typically a lock and a fade outside of the
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: factual definition that yes, you're you're able to say it
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: and you're correct. But outside of the factual definition that
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: comes a lot more into your portfolio play of like
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: you know what am I doing with this player? Am
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I underweight?
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: Overweight?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: And too many times I hear people talking about I
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: gotta lock this guy or fade this guy, and you
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: don't have to do either if you go look up
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: when we get to it later, maybe remind me the
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: twenty dollars million maker, the best players in the world
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: aren't really fading anyone. They're underweight, they're overweight, or they're
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: at the field. And it's not who you play, it's
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: how you play your lineups accordingly. So in your non
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: doubtle lineups, if you liked having the Saints in there,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: as that possibility, it's very unlikely you would ended up
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: with Saints versus Dowdell because the settings the different things
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: with optivizers, but it would have made sense in non
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: doubt alignements to say, hey, if I'm not going there anyway,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: why not have a defense that double leverages. I don't
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: have Dabdell who might be failing, and I do have
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: the defense that might be causing him to fail. So
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: that's where that comes from. I think that was a
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: good one to bring up. Anything else, let's see. I
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: just want to see there's any other comments that we're
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: talking about here. Yeah, sometimes that's what you gotta look
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: at too. We've talked a lot about this lately, Matt, Like,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: sometimes if you like everything else, it's just finding the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: right stack that fits around it, and doesn't it to
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: be a full on stack like Davis Mills, Nico Collins
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: at forty five hundred and sixty seven hundred, or you
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: add Schultz to that package might have been enough and
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: then you could just fill out like a Chan Gibbs,
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: whoever else you wanted across the board. Jennings, if you're
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: not on CMC, like it kind of would have just
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: came together, do you Is that? I guess talk to
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: us a little bit about this Because you mentioned Gabriel
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: and Schuck. I don't think it's like you're in love
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: with them. Is like going to the Hall of Fame,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: which doesn't matter. We're playing one slate on a DFS Sunday.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Is that the reason that you're more inclined to go
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: to these cheaper stacks so you can sort of fit
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: what you want around it.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's part of it. First off, Gabriel stinks,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: never thought anything of him, still don't, so it certainly
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: wasn't an endorsement of how well I think he's going
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: to be long term. I think they should already be
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: looking to go to Shador Sanders, no matter what that
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: looks like, because Gabriel ain't it. But I love the
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: spot for the Browns. Yesterday, coming off the bye week,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: facing a Jets team that was depleted defensively, had traded,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: you know, obviously their two best defensive players new play caller,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I heard all week they were really looking to get
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: Judy involved, way more than they had all year. So
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: this is a good example of just because you get
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: something right doesn't really mean anything, because you need to
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: get more than one thing right. So Gabriel was okay,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: Judy was really really good, and I was way over
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: the field on Judy, but I barely had any Gibbs.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I didn't really play at you know, ch Han, so
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: you know, just because like Gabriel was okay, and Schuck
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: was okay, they weren't scores that you needed, and I
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: personally like, looking back on my own process not to
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: be results oriented. I think I played too much of
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: those guys, more Gabriel than Shuck. But you know, again,
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: just because they were good and they didn't kill my
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: lineups doesn't mean I won with them. So again, you
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: got to get a bunch of things right, and not
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: having like the forty point scorers really really hurt.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's another thing that people just need
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: to take into you know, reviewing your game is obviously
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: very important. We talk about it a ton at Ship Nation.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: We talk about a ton in the Mastermind project. The
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: key is being able to go back and review and
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: then apply, and that's why we do it. Also, love
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Tea Trizzle always here supporting, fully incorrect. Sorry to call
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: you out, but it's just facts. It's again, if you
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: pressed optimize on your optimizer and just took whatever the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: projections give you, that is not Again, I'm the number
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: one advocate for this. I talk about it a ton. Yes,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: people do that, and they like to do that, and
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: oh I should just trust this, that and the other.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: You are allowed to make the changes before it goes in.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: My man Squirrel Patrol, who I'd do the Friday show with.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: On Mayo, he had a Davis Mills lineup finished sixth
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: in that. I guarantee you he uses an optimizer. But
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: you know what, he had to decide that Davis Mills
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: who's going to be one of his quarterbacks to get
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: him in there. So it's not correct to say if
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: you were using an optimizer, you wouldn't get someone. You
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: get what you Your inputs are your outputs. If you
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: started with the optimizer and you wanted Davis Mills in
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: your pool, you would have got Davis Mills in your optimizer.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: So got a call it like I see it. That's
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: part of it. Andrews. By the way, Andrew Andrew I
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: think is a Cleveland guy, as Well says was a
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: great lesson. He mentioned the snow you guys got overnight earlier,
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: so shout out to him on that. But he says,
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: that's what this show in DFS Mastermind is all about.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: New ones who's been on here plenty and a longtime
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: member over at Ship a nation founding family and then
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: a member since inception at Mastermind. As Well says, you
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: need a process to even get those picks and plays.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point. And people said I don't have
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: any of this, well, it might not be part of
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: their problem and just noting it in the Mastermind project.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Nads and I recently did this. We're gonna do a
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: quick version of it now Nads with the Stone, but
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: we did a full hour and ten minutes of going
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: through the Stone, Saber, Sam, the stack rankings, all that
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: over at Mastermind. You just go to shiptnation dot com
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: slash Masterminder check the link down below to get in.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: It's less than a hundred bucks to get started and
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: you'll be in to check all this stuff out. But
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: here's the Saints. I brought them up. One of the
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: cheaper d's people asked about the Jets D yesterday. This
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: is a really prime example. Not only is it the
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: opposite D and the Browns. By the way, he got
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: to like twenty percent, which is insane. It was the
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Jets were a very high optimal rate, a very leveraged
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: optimal rate in this spot opposite the popular defense. It's
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: just a quick flip for one hundred bucks less and
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you could get here. And also Breyse Hall was popping
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: as well. They know he didn't end up being needed,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: but he had a pretty good day himself where he
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: outdid like a Doubtle for example, at a similar setup.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: And I think the difference was not quite exact, but
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I will say the Panthers d was super popular as well.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: At thirty five hundred bucks seven and a half percent
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: chance to be optimal, they got pushed up there with
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: the Doubtell ownership, and then you go down for the
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Savings at twenty eight hundred even higher chance to be optimal.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So if you're not using the stone or you don't
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: have the stone, you can get in for nineteen bucks
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: and get five days of action over at trip Nation
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: or the one ninety nine for the season deal. But
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the stone has everything you need right here on it.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: This was another prime example of how you would have
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: got to the Jets yesterday. And those are other ones.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I think there was a couple others we wanted to
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: look at.
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So not only that, I mean the Jets are
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: also sandwiched between like you've talked about Browns on the
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: opposite side of that game. But not only that, the
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Jaguars right twenty six hundred dollars Jaguars twenty nine hundred
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: dollars Browns why not the Jets, right, defense is such old,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: but they just trade away their whole team.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: You saw it right.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: They didn't get there because of their defense. They got
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: there from kick returns. But that's the chance you take
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: when you're That could happen to any of these defenses, right,
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: one kick return to the house, anything in your swimming.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't that. Oh, I thought the Jets defense
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: was great.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: It was more so the leverage, like you talked about
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: sandwich between those at a onesie fluky position, the highest
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: variance position that you can fill out in your rosters.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Why am I going to go with the field?
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: Ninety nine percent of the time chought defenses just don't
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: get there, and that the reason it's the highest variance position, right,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: So looking the ways to leverage the common build, forty
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: percent of the rosters were either forty five percent were Browns,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: Jaguarars or Panthers defense in the twenty dollars million maker,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I mean you talk about rake, that's way over what
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: the rake is there. So that's a good one, but
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: nominally that the Saints defense, right, the Saints defense, you
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: talked about I do this all the time.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: You know, Rico Dalla was getting played.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: He came in at fifty five percent owned in the millimaker,
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: in the lowest total on the game on the slate.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: If there's one, If you're a head coach, right, or
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you're a defensive coordinator and you're going into a game,
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: how do I even have a chance do our best
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: to sell out and stop the one guy that's been
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: their offense the last couple of weeks, Rico Daudo. Whatever
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: else happens. If we lose, we lose. At least we
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: executed on our plan. I can always take a defense
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: against the chalkiest guy in the slate at a onesie position.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: So I think the Saints and the Jets were two
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: really really good plays. But not only that, the Seahawks, right,
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: not just because results oriented, you knew everybody wanted to
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: spend down at defense. Right going into the slate, what
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: do we know? We knew the Jaguars, we knew the
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: Browns because of the combined owner and the Panthers right
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: because people were playing Rico they want the running back
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: DST correlation.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: People were playing Judkins that steams up the defense.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: So going all the way up to the top, when
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: people were making Jacobe Brissette, you knew Trey McBride was
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: coming in with a ton of ownership. Marvin Harrison was
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: popping off the page in projections, and the Seahawks defense
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: has been one of the best defenses in the league.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: They're at home. You knew nobody wanted to pay up
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: for defense, and they're one hundred dollars more than the Panthers.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: So there's a couple. Defense is so forgotten about a
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: lot going into a slate and people are just like, Okay,
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: whatever lands there lands there. There is thought process and
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: this is what this is the difference from winning tournaments
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: to min cashing. I mean, look at if you didn't
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: have the Jets defense, you could have got there with
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: some Saints stuff. But if you played the Browns, you
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: played the Jags, you played these it was probably the
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: difference of you getting all the way to the top
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: or kind of sitting in that middle cash line of tournaments.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I will note this quickly too, is Detroit
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: was a I think higher on than the Seahawks as well.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Another one down here, it was a negative leverage spot
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: at thirty four you find the Seahawks, who again looking
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: at the other side of it, as there were people
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: playing mcbrahoo. McBride still got there, but just a noe
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: McBride reset those types of spots that were being played
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: where there's negative leverage, there can be positive and this
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: was slightly under but I think the Seahawks ended up
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: coming in a little less than this. But it's just
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: to note it. This is definitely an opportunity home favorite
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: like that, if you're not on the cardinal side of things,
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you can land there. The other one our man go
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: collect at. Here was another one picking it up, and
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: we're just focusing on d right now. But Texans thirty
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: one hundred at a six point seven, the Jags were
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: almost double the ownership. Again, this is a huge negative
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: leverage spot, so you could have just flipped it right
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: there and saw that. But then even going to where
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: was the other spot we were just at, it was
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: six point seven. There was somebody else we were just
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: looking at. But I guess the point would be more
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: so too, Like if you look at the Jags twenty
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: six hundred, big ownership, all of that that goes with
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: at eight point nine, but massive negative leverage at twenty six.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: That's another spot. The Jets fit in just two hundred
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: bucks more eight point two instead of eight point seven.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's almost the same thing. They're at home. It's fine,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: but again people focus on Sauce Gardner got traded and
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Quentin Williams is in there, so you can't play them.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I know people think that it's a lot easier to
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: look back and we're just focused like that's because of
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: the result. We are agreeing with you in saying the
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: results almost in possible to figure out. It's such high volatility.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: What we're saying is there a process and tools that
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: you can use to help put yourself in the position,
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: and you're not some genius with a crystal ball when
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it happens, that's just the added bonus. No one, was
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: it one freaking punt return or kick return? I guess
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: it was first is the way it happened would have
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: been great that then the punt return was obviously phenomenal.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: But to say you couldn't have landed on the Jets
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: opposite one of the most popular defenses on the slate
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: with these numbers going with it, that's just not true.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: You could have landed there easily looking at it this way.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: So I also want to point out quick we have
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: it targeted at the top. And I know Dark got
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: injured late, but I mean he was really cruising.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was your pp. I gotta say to your
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: Jets point like just to take it from a even
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: a step farther, just from like a real life perspective.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: The Jets were facing Dylan Gabriel on the road against
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: the Browns team that has not won a road game
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: in thirteen games now, So you put it like that,
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: why would it The Jet in play agreed.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: That was a part of it too. I mean yesterday
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was Hoop on the show, shout out to him. He said,
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: like he even talked about the Judkins and Brown's flip.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: He's like, that's getting over owned as the COMBA, almost
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: like what Alex and I talk about on Saturdays on
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Leverage Lane. We did mention the Judkins part. I said, like,
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: when the ownership on the Browns is picking up steam,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: that can boose Judkins even more. You can just flip it.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: If that game script flips, it could easily be Breese
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Hall and the jetste And that's what it was. And
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I don't like to keep going back on yet like
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: this is the thing again, you're simply trusting pressing a button.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: We love sabersim, it's our tool of choice. But you're
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: pressing a button in sabersim. You're not doing any of
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: your own work. If you want to go in and
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: put in other things, it's it's your inputs are your
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: outputs you could turn on like Shuck and Dylan Gabriel
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: weren't popping and Bellman ninety sixt seven. My man Matt
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: over here, one of the best players in the world
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: when it comes to all sports at DFS, is putting
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: those into his inputs before he gets his outputs. Did
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it work out? No, but he put it in there.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Score of Patrol one of the best DFS players in
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: the world had Davis Mills finished sixth in the Millie.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: You're if you're just gonna go and and press a button,
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna end well. Very often you gotta do
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: a lot more with it than just that, So that's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: part of it. You're not gonna see it in all
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the projections in the rankings. It's if you see it
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: from a different ay. And again, you didn't have to.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: Mills is just an example, by the way, we're about
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to review the twenty dollars Milli Maker halfway through or
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: about on time here, you didn't even need Davis Mills yesterday.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield was the lineup that got to the top.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: So just another note on top of that, all we're
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: saying is that's the opposite way to focus on what
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: we're focusing on. You didn't need Mills yesterday. We showed
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: that perfect lineup, and I showed you in two seconds
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: how you could have made that lineup make more sense
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: with Goff and just put in Kittle and well you
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: would have lost some of those points and kick Naylor
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: out of there and take a zero. You still probably
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: win the Milli Maker. So dry run and your run
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: are two different things, and I think you should definitely
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: be focused. That's what this video needs. That I talk
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: about over at Mastermind, and people complain everybody wants to
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: talk about stuff and nobody wants to be about it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: You gotta go put the work in. The best golfers
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: in the world are practicing every day of the week.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: The best basketball players are in the gym right now,
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: been there since five in the morning. You got to
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: get better if you actually are here and you want
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: to get good, go get good. There's lots of ways
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: to do it.
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: I also want to I mean, if you've sort my value,
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: I mean, Davis Mills is the third best value on
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: the slate. Matt Jones, Sam Donald, Davis Mills projections he
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: had almost fifteen projection at forty five hundred. That's less
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: than three points off of Jackson Dart for what twelve
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: hundred dollars.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Lest So it was there.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: He did fit teams, he was projecting well, and all
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: of the other things that we talked about too, right,
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: So I don't know whose projections or what, but I
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: mean he was the third highest value on the slate yesterday.
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: That also goes into what you were talking about, Tambeau,
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: as far as like you don't necessarily need the stack.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: In this case, it did go off. But when they're
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: this cheap to you know, win you the slate, a
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: lot of times it's you're using that because of what
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: else it can get you. And yesterday there were a
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: lot of expensive, desirable players. So just overall to your point, Yeah, my.
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: Man, Jordan knows, I love the gym ones can't get
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: jack Everybody wants to get in shape. And nobody wants
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: to track macros, eat correctly, get a trainer, go to
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: the gym. They just want to get wake up healthy
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: one day. And that's why o Zepik stocks through the roof, Like, yeah,
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: if you can just take a pill and make it
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: happen for those that aren't using it for what it's
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: actually for, not to you know, take it out of context,
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: which is noting it's It's a prime example. There's no shortcuts, man. Unfortunately,
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: I wish there was. I win a lot money, a
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: lot of money, a lot quicker if that was the case.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: But you gotta put your time in, you got to
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: put your work in. The only other target game we
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: had on the slate was the Patriots and the Buccaneers.
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: That's gonna be a good segue to it. But Baker
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Egbuca tes really high optimal. Over here, by the way,
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: this is another flip is like for every hunter Henry lineup,
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: there was a ton of them for just a few
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks more. On the opposite side was almost the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: same set up a higher projection actually ten point five
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: over nine point nine. You get aughten in there. You
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: use it with digs, you use it with Henderson and
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: whatever you want to do, Like, that's the setup, and
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: that's the sauce if you go here, if you go
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: to the winning lineup, we'll get to it with this,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: said their scorel patrol in six, who I've recently referenced,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: But yeah, standish, congrats. This is a phenomenal lineup at Matt.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: You know the guy a little bit at least I
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: have been in discords and had conversations. I'll quickly kick
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: it to you on this, but it was pretty straightforward.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: It's Baker, Agbuka tz Auten run it back with Henderson.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: You pick up two really good spots at running back
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: in a Chan and Gibbs. You flip the defense from
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the popular chalk defense to the Jets, and you don't
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: have CMC or Kittle, so why not throw Jennings in
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: there as your piece from that game? You spend the
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: fifty k. The ownership is solid across the board. There's
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: enough leverage points a phenomenal lineup. And I've only said
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: this one other time this season, and I forget which
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: lineup exactly it was, but I would say this is
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: a secondary version of the best lineup I've seen all season.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Take down a million maker. Overall, I really like this
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: line a lot for many different reasons.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Same but for me, I think this also falls into
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: the category of the stack was good. But what won
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: him the Millie was the stack being good, combined with
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: the fact that he had all three of the nut
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: rbs together, which I don't know how many people had them,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: but it couldn't have been that many, even in a
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: big field. So the Baker stack was good, don't get
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: me wrong. But we talked about a bunch of other
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: stacks that were good. The Houston stack, the Arizona stack
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: was pretty good. It was about getting your stack right
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: and not having your stack kill you, and then getting
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: all the pieces around it right. And he did that
• 39:29
  Speaker 3: great lineup, just put together really nicely. And the other
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: thing about this is I think he only played twenty
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: one lineups, so really impressive job here.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Lucky twenty one baby Blackjack, that's the one. So, like
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: you said, and we have the access to this to
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: be able to show it off, I think this is
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: really cool. See at the top one hundred and sixty
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: one thousand, seven hundred and sixty four entries of that
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: point zero eight percent, only one hundred and eighteen had
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: that combination of a Chan, Gibbs and Henderson. I think
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: that's pretty interesting. I just want to see two going
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: back to the stone for a second. So I know
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: on Saturday we had a big conversation around this, and
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: it was funny because the ownership which it didn't update
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: or we didn't have it fully locked in, but we
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: said James Cook would pick up steam to be with
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: a Chan and it actually ended up being twenty six
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: twenty five. Eight Chan did get crossed by James Cook.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: They both had really good matchups. But nade you said
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: it best people wanted if they couldn't get to Josh
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Allen and look how many people got to the cheaper quarterbacks,
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: then they thought, why not just get a piece of
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: that action with James Cook. Eight Chan on the other side,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: still a very high optimal rate with a great matchup.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: That's a starting point. It was a lower stack ranking
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: than some of the other ones around it. You see
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the eight point four to six, the eight point sixty six,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: you see the what was the other ones? We had
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: about eight point sixty three some of these bigger ones.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: So there's that. Now you go to Henderson for our
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: cheap running backs. I think he had the highest of
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: the optimal rates. Stack ranking was still there. But it
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: was a target game, so that made sense. So if
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: you targeted this game, pick your side and get to it,
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: this would make sense, I said on the show, and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: I said with leverage Laine, and yesterday's show I talked
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: about the hard part was with Drake, who I've been
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: coining Drake may Holmes. He's phenomenal, but it's hard to
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: get him right. Yesterday it was tons of stuff. Mac
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Hollins was into the mix, Kyle Williams got into the mix.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: And again if you got to those, congrats to you.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It's just it's harder to get to that. But on
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: the other side, Mayfield, Igbuca, tez Aughten who got there
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: for them, those three guys, And again did others have opportunities? Sure,
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: did they try and Jammershod White seemingly every time. Still yes,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and it was frustrating if you were on the Baker's side.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: But just of note, this is the type of thing
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: where it's we talk about stack consolidation and what becomes
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit easier. And then obviously Gibbs down here
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: in a great matchup rush d D optimal thirteen. We
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: knew he was coming in lower own than CMC and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: all this stuff and making it a great spot. So
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: congrats again two standish. I think that's phenomenal. But Naid's
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: all kick it. Do you if you had any extra
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: thoughts on this lineup? I mean, the Hm one was there,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: the Gibbs one was there. All of it made sense,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: and I like the Jennings Gibbs when not playing CMC.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: It's okay, how am I gonna get a piece of
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: that action? Still, I'm gonna go with the highest projected
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: value receiver in Jennings. Go ahead.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: So I think also people get so caught up in
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: the matchups and what these running backs, right, just because
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: they have a running back tag doesn't man they're a
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: standard hand the ball off run between the tackles type
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: running back.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: You look at compare Henderson and Judkins, right, Obviously there
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: are different price ranges, but coming in Judkins was projected
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: right there with Henderson in terms of ownership, and Henderson
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: was cheaper. Judkins has zero pass catching ability out of
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: the backfield. Trevion Henderson. They don't like this guy for
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: a runner when they used him when all three of
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: their running backs were in there. It was as that
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: pass catching, dump off kind of guy.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: How do you beat the bus? That's dump off?
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: Running backs out of the backfield have torched the Bucks,
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: So he's not just yeah, the Bucks is a tough
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: matchup on paper to run up the tackles.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Henderson is not that kind of guy. There's tons of
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: injuries in there, and.
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: He's fifty six hundred dollars on a slate where you
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: know people are playing one or not both of Cook
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: and a Chan.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: CMC or dowbt Oll and Judkins.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Of those five running backs, many lineups had three, three
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: at least two, if not three, of those guys in
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: their lineup. So you just know guys like Henderson and
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: that can't get played. It's not results oriented. If Henderson
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: goes out there and scores six points, I'd say the
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: exact same thing going into the slate.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: That's what we knew.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: He's in a game environment that you want to target
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: as a run back. Right, how does the Baker Mayfield
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: stacks get pushed? Henderson house is one? Okay, what happened?
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: He hust one, not one, but two. That's how Baker Mayfield.
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: The Baker Mayfield Stacks didn't get there until Henderson house
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: his second touchdown at the end. I mean Baker was
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: sitting at sub twenty points tes Johnson caught that last
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: touchdown without that, I mean he was nowhere to be found,
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: and you don't see Baker Stacks up at the top.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: So that's how when you're looking for runbacks and correlations,
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: what was the most common run back in a Baker
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: Mayfield stack Hunter Henry? Right, because that was the one
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: given that everybody knew quote unquote or thought they knew
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: going into the slate.
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: Hunter Henry smashed every week. Drake may loves this guy.
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: They don't want to figure out is it Booty? Is it? Well,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Booty wasn't in there, but is it Digs is it
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: these other guys?
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: Right, let me just grab Hunter Henry because I don't
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: want to play kateot and I'm gonna play Aguka and
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: Ted Johnson and just Skinny stack it there. So taking
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: it to the next level I think is really really
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: sharp in general in a game environment, when you know
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: people are going to it and what the most common
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: way that people are attacking that game environment from.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it all came together really nicely. The whole lineup
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: makes a ton of sense. Is just built out properly,
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: and go collects is only point eight percent. But look
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: at their ownership, right, it was like twelve fourteen, and
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: what was the highest one was? Who's the other guy
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: that we just had their twenty something? I think it
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: was twenty twenty five. Yeah, for a chan. But anyway,
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: this stack seekers awesome to look at because if you
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: go back and look like Rico with let's just do
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: the field. Obviously, the higher the are total, the more
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: likely there being played together. But just to your point
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: of the combinations, I mean Rico and Judkins in almost
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: fifteen thousand lineups sixteen thousand plus with Rico and eight like,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: it all starts with Rico being the highest own But
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, when you knew that, that's where you could
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: look at some of those combinations. But even without let's
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: just look at some of these. Almost four thousand had
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: a CHAN with Judkins. If you use Henderson and start
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: looking at the versions of it, obviously with daubtll's gonna
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: be the most popular. So almost eighty five hundred, James
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Cook thirty five hundred, e Chan almost thirty five hundred
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: Judkins thirty one hundred. So again you can look through
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: all this stuff, but it is interesting just to see,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: like what the combos are like. Almost six thousand lineups
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: played Bill, Jennings and mcaffi's because they can be stacked.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: But if you went with like Dowdell and Jennings ten
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: percent fourteen thousand, I mean, you can really play with
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: this and see what people are up to. But let's
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: look at this. Ten thousand lineups went with the Judkins
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: and Brown's combo. Let's see the doubts.
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: Checked at Breist Hall Jets on the other side of
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: that game.
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good call, let's do that. That's a better one.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: Let's see go buy points for that one because they're
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: up there. What's what do you get nineteen something for
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: haul and yeah, six hundred and fifty five lineups. This
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: is the interesting thing though, Like again, this is actually
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: really interesting. You brought someone up because we've hit on
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: this one already, so we can just tie it tie
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: on on this one and move on to the five
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: fifty five million maker. Again, congrats to Standish. We looked
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: at that lineup was awesome, But just of note, the
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: game script just has to flip that's it. Like it's
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: anything Judkins and Browns can be for less money. On
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the other side, it was just it was a little
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: less money. You can flip it and know that what
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: was the difference. Again, So this is six hundred and
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: fifty five lineups versus ten thousand, five hundred and twelve.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: Like that's where we're saying, you've already put yourself ahead
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: of just so much when you do something so so
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: little and really outside of people that will bitch and
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: moan about, you know, results oriented. We just showed a
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: million times on how you could do it, and the
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: setup is pretty straightforward that it's all you really need
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: is that game script to flip. And to Matt's point,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: you got Dylan Gabriel on the road with Jerry Judy, who,
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: by the way, congrats dam had an awesome game. But
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: but you know that's for him. But it's not like
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: they had much going for them outside of that. It
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: wasn't like this crazy spot or high powered offense that
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: you would have been flipping this on almost ten thousand,
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: just under ten thousand lineups more went with this combo
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: over the other one on the other side, and pretty
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: much everything if you go back speaks to it. It's
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: really not that far off Judkins fourteen percent, eleven and
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: a half for Breese Hal eleven percent for the Browns,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: eight point two for the Jets. But the ownership flip
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: and the fact that you just need that game script
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to flip slightly makes it so much more obvious. There.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: We'll go to the five fifty five million maker here
• 48:10
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• 48:11
  Speaker 2: on that one. But we did have a question from
• 48:14
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• 48:31
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• 48:33
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• 48:36
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• 48:38
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• 48:44
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• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the five point fifty five million maker, Matt.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: I'll let you look at the winner. Talk us through
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: this one, Tommy, the vig got the job done with
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: two twenty five and it's actually a Brisset lineup that
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: got there, So I'll let you walk us through it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: It's on screen forty nine nine. What do you think
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: of this lineup and what stands out here?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: So you asked me, like maybe twenty minutes ago, as
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: far as like what my opinion on what my opinion
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: of was like, as far as you know, using stacks,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: cheaper stacks to be able to get what you want
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: other you know, elsewhere in your lineup. And I think
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: this slate is a great example of that because certainly
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: it mattered what QB and stacks you used, but there
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: were a lot of teams that were similar here, whether
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: it was Baker and his guys, Brisset and his guys,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: it was all about getting the right pieces around them.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: The top lineup did that, you know, the Gibbs and
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: a chan combo was lethal. He needed it and then
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: they got things right with it. Certainly with Brissett, you're
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: likely going to play McBride. He got there was you know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: ultimately by far the top tight end scorer on the slate,
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: played that cheap saintste you talked about, didn't have Travon
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: but got everything else right. So just a really solid
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: lineup that was set apart with the Gibbs and Chan combo.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Don't know how many people in this tournament played those
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: guys together, but Gibbs was pretty low on himself. So yeah,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: you needed the right pieces around whatever stack you used.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Obviously there were certainly stacks that could kill you, like Buffalo,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: like Baltimore, both teams that were projected to score a
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: lot of points. But whether it was Arizona, whether it
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: was the Rams, whether it was the Bucks, whether it
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: was the Patriots who scored similar to the Buccaneers here,
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: it was about getting those running back pieces around them.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Han and Gibbs were eighty nine lineups of in
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: this one, five five hundred and five entries, So just
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: a note there. I do want to see something of
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: what's more interesting to me let's go to the points
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: for a second, see if we can find it this way.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Let's go McBride and Brisset. So there was two hundred
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: and eighty lineups. But what I want to add here
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: is JSN. So there was one hundred and fifty eight
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: lineups two hundred and eighty total. So what is one
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: hundred and thirty ish, right, one hundred and twenty two
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: or whatever that didn't put JSN when they were going
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: for the Brisset McBride's.
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: It's not that you have to.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: We're not stating that. So it's just that's something to
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: look at because I think that's more of a standout
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: piece for that when that many lineups in this tournament
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: are making sure to get JSN in there. That's a
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: huge difference maker. When you're spending the JSA and money
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: on someone like Gibbs or someone like a Chan and
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: then you're not playing Daubtll so you're going with the
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: New Orleans defense. You're not playing Puka, so you're going
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: with Williams instead, and then you still have a digs
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: tes nice little secondary like this is a really sharp lineup.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: It targeted that game because it has digs and tes
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: in there together. So that's one combo. It's got Brissette
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: McBride as a combo. But then after that it just
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: kind of really solid one offs all around of like, Okay,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: I'm not on the Detroit game, but I'm gonna get
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: I am via Gibbs. I'm not on the Buffalo side,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: so let me see how that busts up. It's gonna
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: be with a chant. I'm not on CMC or Kittle
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: or mac Jones. Let me get a piece of that
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: with Jennings not on Pookah as I stated, and I'm
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: not undoubted, so let me leverage it. A really sharp
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: build all around. I think, Nids, do you have stuff
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: to add to this one here? Yeah?
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: So first thing I want to talk about is roster
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: construction here, because guess what everyone wanted to do. They
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: wanted to play one a JSN or Puka yesterday. I mean,
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: they rosters are coming pre loaded with them and one
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: of those cheaper spin down running backs. So how do
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: you flip that? You go mid tier running, mid tier
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: wide receivers that are gonna eat the lunch. Diggs is
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: gonna eat the lunch of Hunter Henry, who most people
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: are playing from that team, he can score touchdowns. Juwan
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Jennings eating the lunch of Kittle and CMC both right,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Maybe it's him right with injuries in that situation, They're
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: in a good game environment. Ted Johnson been super involved,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: No Chris Godwin, no Mike Evans. Great play, right, how
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: can you get to there?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: Well, guess what?
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: Now, I can spend up at three running backs spots
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: or two running back spots and not spending up to
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: the nine K. Right, that saves me one thousand dollars.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: I'm not spending eighty six hundred. I'm not spaying paying
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: eighty what four hundred that Puka was or whatever over
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: eight k? Right, You're living in that mid tier where
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: it makes sense and leveraging those plays within your plays. Right, How,
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not playing CMC. I'm not just playing Juwan Jennings
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: to leverage that. I'm playing another guy that could straight
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: up outbeat both Injremieer Gibbs right in that price range.
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: Devon h Chan other side of James Cook. How can
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: he get there? Well, guess what, he's just explosive. He
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: can leverage that if I'm not playing that, right, while
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: I'm not playing Rico Dubdo in this lineup because I'm
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: triple spending up at running back. Why not plug in
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: the Saints defense because if Dowdll's not scoring touchdowns, that's
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: helping the Saints. On the other side, maybe Bryce Young
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: has to drop back and pass. So I wanted to
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: talk about that and then not using a spend down
• 55:04
  Speaker 4: tight end right. People wanted to live down and spend
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: down in the tight end position. You can get away
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: with a skinny stack with a guy like Trey McBride
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: who acts as a wide receiver one, and it's cheap.
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: It's ten thy six hundred for that combo. Drake May
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: Hunter Henry was right there in that same combination Jackson
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Dart and Theo Johnson or Slaton or whoever you want
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: to put. There was within ten k ten ten two
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: for those stacks who are much more popular.
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: There so very very well thought out.
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: This guy, I think had two rosters in here, so
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: probably like a virtual handbild, I would assume in this contest,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: and he thought about it very very good in terms
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: of how the roster's constructions were going worth the ownership
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: was leading to common roster construction builds within this contest
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: and he used that to leverage in his portfolio here
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: of two rosters.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to see this real quick too. Is
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: of no, like you called out two things. One is
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: not using a cheaper tight end. Two is it's a
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: balanced build. Like because of that, there's nobody lower than
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: forty five hundred until you get to the defense. And
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I know Alex talked about that on Leverage Lane this
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: week too. Is if you could find a balance build,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: that just made sense. But I want to see here
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: too because look, Mark Andrews thirty four hundred sixteen percent,
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: Hunter Henry eighteen percent, Kate Atten fifteen. So I'm just
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: trying to see quickly almost one hundred lineups double tight
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: end with Andrews over one hundred lineups double tight ends
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: of that game stack, which makes more sense because they
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: went both tight ends in that game. These are the
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: lineups played together that are two tight end builds to
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: build it up. So that's another thing in the higher
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: stakes tournaments and the you know what the sims will
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: push and everything that comes with that is the focus
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: around trying to boost it up and get more of
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: those pieces in. But sometimes it becomes the way Tommy
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: Devig did it in that. I'm not gonna let it
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: do that to boost me up. I'm gonna take the
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: balanced ceiling options and hope that I get a few
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: different ceilings out of my guys. McBride Williams all six sixties,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: six hundred, digs fifty eight hundred, eight chan seventy four hundred.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Like it wasn't like you were stretching things. And then
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: let me get twenty from these guys type of thing
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: and it all balances out in the end. But yeah,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: that's pretty pretty interesting.
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: So the flex usage I just looked at it, run
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: three running backs was twenty four percent of teams of
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: all lineups in this contest. Double tight end was fifty
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: two percent in this contest if I'm looking at it
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: right from the reports section on this page right.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Here, half the lineups because of the value. Right, So
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: what do you know?
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: The value sucked. That's why double tight end was getting steamed.
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: The higher the dollar of the field, the sharper the
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: players are. And they realized that, right, hence the double
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: tight end right, look at that. Look at those bar charts.
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 57:38
  Speaker 3: Double ten also nutted last week, which I'm sure didn't
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: hurt its ownership.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: This week right right exactly, And there's no cheap wide receivers,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: there's no four K running backs things like that, right,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: So people wanted to find a way to get to CMC,
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to get to PUKA, to get to JSN. How do
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: you do that?
• 57:53
  Speaker 4: You look at these underpriced tight ends that are in
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: the three three to four K range that are prices
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: wide receivers threes and fours that have a much much
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: lower floor. You flip that, you go balance build, giving
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: you the ability to go to a running back, which
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: puts put you in half of the common rosters of
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: the field that you're playing against.
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: And Andrew made a joke, but it's actually a good
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: point because people forget, like I guess people don't. People
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: don't forget because clearly they're winning millies with it, but
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: people act sometimes like the quarterback isn't if there's no
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: value on a slate. That's why it's a good idea
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: to get it from the quarterback. You're getting a starting
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: quarterback that's getting the same clock as the Josh Allen
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: gets the same game clock as Davis Mills does. One
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: is way more successful, usually, one is way more capable.
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: Definitely an MVP versus a not but they're gonna get
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: the same opportunity. And it also then it becomes matchup
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: and point per dollar game and all these different factors.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: So it's funny that sometimes people don't count a quarterback
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: as a value player. If slate sucks for value, do what,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: Tommy the vig did. Use the value in a way
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: that it can boost you. With a guy like McBride,
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: if he has thirty, that's really gonna help Priset and Brissett.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: This was horrible.
• 59:04
  Speaker 2: They were getting crushed. It was a shutout for a
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: while too. And the point is, like Brissett did most
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: of it in garbage time. Daily Fantasy doesn't care. How's
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: your garbage time taste, Tommy the big taste very good,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: one million dollars better. So just a prime example of
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: all the stuff people bitch and complain about that you
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: just can't have as an excuse. It's it's all just
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: how it all shakes out in the end. Speaking of that,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: look at this stuff too, Matt. I'll stick with you
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: on this one. Look at so interesting note Brissette, dart May,
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: mac Jones, Baker. Five different quarterbacks in the top five
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: point two two too. I mean even tase Red here
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: it's another Baker. But just to note, twenty grand to
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty grand, it's not even a point. Really, sorry,
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: it is. It's from these guys. I was gonna say
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: not even a point because I was on Macklove and before,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: but just on tase Red even getting into the mix,
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: it's a point difference. And then it's less than two
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: points up to second place and not that much more
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: to go to first. So imagine the sweat down the
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: stretch of all these teams, whatever they had left. I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: didn't check who had players left, but just of note, Debo,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: Gibbs and Williams, a mon Raw, Wow, Like imagine need
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: lunch money just eating a Monroe. Say, meanwhile, he's getting
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: punched in the face out there on there like literally,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: it's like it's like, yeah, yeah, he talked about that.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: He got there early on, but then it was like, uh,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: you know, these guys got there with the additional Like
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: imagine mack Lovin, Jameson, Williams and Gibbs. Soon as the
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: play calling got turned over to Dan Campbell, it's Jameson
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: Williams seven times to get to the bonus basically, and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: then you get Gibbs just bust that runout and it
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: didn't get him there, but he got him up there.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Shady had other stuff going on with McBride and Gibbs.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, that's a pretty nice finale if if you
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: needed it. Jameson Williams out doing and blocked the other ones,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: but then fading Gibbs for the sweat for b Wong
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: and then at the top was Brissett and McBride with
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Williams Gibbs, like imagine that sweat down the ster Edgson
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: Jennings like this had a bunch in the afternoon. So
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I think it was really interesting too yesterday.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: What's the only I guess Henderson and h Chan you
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: could have got away with in the morning. But I
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: kept saying how this afternoon slate yesterday was just so
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: good in its own right. There's probably a thought process
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: there of like just building an afternoon only lineup, fitting
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: in a couple options from the morning that you liked,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: and then moving on because there was just so many
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: ways to go in the afternoon, and a lot of
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: them got there too, A lot of them did find
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: their way. Mac Jones, Brissett, I mean these guys scored points.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Where was the mac Jones version.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: Afternoon lineup for way higher scoring than me? I'm pretty sure.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, mac Jones had twenty seven with I mean Jennings Kittle,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: the double tight end with Kittle McBride, that's another one.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: If you are going to go double tight end, this
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: is the way I like so this. I didn't even
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: mean to focus on this one. When I've met Eric
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: before a bunch of times at Live finals. He's an
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: awesome dude, brings his family like really cool stuff. He's
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: a top player for sure, and just looking at this
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: one interesting bill, But I do like this. It's picking
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: up on all the spots. It's like, if you're gonna
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: go double tight end, why not do it in a
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: way that also isn't on CMC, right, So okay, if
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not on CMC, mac Jones, Kittle and Jennings right,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: And then you say, okay, but let me get McBride
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: in there to flip the defense secondary of Debo and
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: a Manra for a piece of that game, and then
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: the two running back plays from early on that Again,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: people knew about these options like they were twenty percent.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: They were much higher owned twenty five goes up to
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: thirty five and fourteen goes up to twenty in the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: higher stake stuff. Those were the clear options at those
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: price points. Just getting them all together was tough. Like
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: somebody said earlier, adding Gibbs in there was probably tricky,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 2: but it's not like it couldn't have happened, right, You
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: could have had Gibbs down here, move Kittle up and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: then instead of McBride has somebody else in wide receiver
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: for that spot where a Monra is like, you could
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: have got to maybe calls close to the NICO. Again,
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: that's nitpicking it and going for like results oriented, but
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: just saying there's other ways around it. But yeah, great,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: great lineup here as well. Nad's you got anything on
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: this one?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: No, overall, really good bill, and I'd be willing to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: bet a lot of these guys did do late swap
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: right with having the flex and the wide receiver positions.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 4: Like just going back to mclevin's build of Gibbs Jamison Williams,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: that could have been like a Juwan Jennings and eight
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: like a JSN or something in the flex right where
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: he knew he had Rico Doudle right, so he swapped
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 4: off of JSN, he swapped off of Puka giving them
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 4: the flexibility, or even cm C giving them the ability
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 4: to go up to a Seattle defense.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: So I'm sure a lot of these had late swaps
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: in there, because when you have a guy like a
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Rico Daudo, right, and you know you're in contention for
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 4: the five fifty five Rico Daudo puts up fifteen points,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: you don't have a chance forty point or forty three
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: point score.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: You know you got to do some stuff there from
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a late swap perspective.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: So just making a lesson of when you know you
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: know have a have to have it, if you don't
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: have a have to have it score from the morning slate,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: that's when you start looking at swaps and swapping to
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: a guy like a Gibbs who can match the production
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: of an HN. We looked at less than one percent
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: of the teams had all three of the not running backs, Henderson,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 4: Chan and Gibbs. So you knew it after the fact, right,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: we know that not a lot of people played that.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: You're just trying to going into it, going into your swaps,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: how do I at least come close to matching that
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: output production that I can look at it as a wash, right,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: I don't have this guy, but I have this guy
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: kind of thing.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the combo was, but it's
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: been in the combo for like the last two weeks.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: Hoops talked about it a ton of the talk radio
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: stuff we make fun of over there, you know, when
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: we're doing the show. And basically they wanted to get
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Jamo involved. It looks like clearly Dan Campbell was the
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: leader of that conversation, and when the OC still couldn't
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: figure it out, he said, ah, we'll just switch it
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: up the second half. Let me show you how we
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: can get this guy involved and what he can do
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: to change the game. Again. They're already likely to smash them,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I thought. But you know, the spot was definitely shown
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: off quite well once he put him in there. And
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: that's a good point too, Naid. It's like, you know, Williams, Gibbs, Seattle.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: There's such high ceiling here of what you'd get out
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: of those guys if you already had a dead daubtle.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: It could have been like a cheap d with Williams
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: and somebody else, or like a receiver that everyone's gonna
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: be on with Puka and something something, and it's like,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: you know what, that's a safe option. Let me go
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: for Detroit scores forty points and Seattle crushes Brissette because
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: I'll need to leverage the McBride owners and the Brissette owners,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. And the other one, even this one,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: I gotta go look now, because Debo getting to almost
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: fourteen percent, there's plays like a Chan and Henderson that
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: steam up. But what was if I go to the
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: twenty dollars million maker, I'm curious what was Debo's ownership?
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: Late swap applies to both certainly, but I'm just curious
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: if this will will pop for me.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: And just twelve point ten point five five, Uh yeah.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I guess it's not gonna let me do it anyway,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: but you can see it on my screen. I couldn't
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: find it, but it's kind of frozen. What do you say?
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: He was ten point five to five yeah, and that's
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: probably with.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: The late swop there too, So I'm just I was
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: thinking he was more single digits and then getting almost
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: to fifteen percent in the other spot just you know,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: kind of crazy. So yeah, I think a lot of
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: it's interesting, A lot of it. What we saw was
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: on the stone. If you go back to the Bucks,
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: you see it here. It was a target game for us.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: There was a big total on both sides. The pass
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: defenses were horrible. I thought that game had left a
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: lot of meat on the bone too, by the way,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: but just you know, someone said it earlier. They talked
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: about Baker Baker the Millie Maker, and it turned out
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: he was on the Milli Maker winner for the twenty
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: dollars at least, and that really nice lineup. And then
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: shout out to Tommy the big in the five fifty
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: five Matt any final thoughts from you before we get
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: out of here, No.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: You know, fun slate to break down as they all
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: are looking forward to a really really big showdown Slate
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: tonight and what should be a great one of the
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: best games of the week in needs's Packers against the Eagles.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Do you want to give to your quick thoughts on
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: that game? We got a little Troe here if everyone
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: wants to hear it. We're gonna have Hoop myself and
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: title back at two pm Eastern. But you gotta got
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: any hot takes on this game tonight?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: I don't know how hot they are, and since I'm
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: not on a show later I will tell. Let's just
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: tell the people that I love the Packers tonight, so
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: that goes for them as a pick them. I love
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: them in DFS. I like everything Green Bay tonight.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: How do you think they get there on these Eagles?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: What type of game do you see happening?
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: I think it's a Josh Jacobs game, my friend.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: Okay, that could be interesting. I don't know if everybody's
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: gonna be feeling the same, but one guy that might
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: be is of course, show us again, the show us.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: The logo Buddy puffed that chest up, double down? Yeah, okay, okay,
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: what do you got? This is Homer takes one on one,
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: but maybe not. Usually we give Naids a hard time.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: We'll finally do it once in front of him when
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: he's live. He's not really a Homer. He all the
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: times he's put the he is, but all the times
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: he's put out. The Jordan love cores and stuff that
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: we make fun of have been big Jordan love weeks.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: And it's like spots that are good spots. So how
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: do you see a play out tonight? Days? You know
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: your team better than anyone. What's going on?
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 4: Huh yeah, Lafore says, Jacob's is finally feeling good, finally
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: feeling healthy. The offense runs a lot better through Jacobs.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: How do you attack the Eagles and keep Jalen Hurts
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: off the field. You run Josh Jacobs. It's cold outside.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: He's not as big as Derrick Henry, but he runs
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 4: pretty good and he's got some catching ability out of
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: the backfield. Dobbins lit this team up. Scatibo let this
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: team up. Bucky Irving lit this team up. I think
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Jacobs has a huge game and they try and keep
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Hurts off the field. It is at home here, and
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: you get the Packers at home as a pick them.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: It's it's usually a good spot could go south, right,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: But everyone saw that team get obliterated last week, probably
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Rico Dautole himself. I think they come up with with
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: a vengeance here after watching the the Lions put a
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: beat down on and the Vikings shit shitting their shitting
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: their pants again. So they want they want the division,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: I'll tell you that. And they usually play these top
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: tier teams much better than they played the below average teams.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you that.
• 1:08:53
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• 1:08:55
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