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READ IT AND SWEEP: Dodgers demolish Angels in a three-game Freeway Series rout · Halo Territory: A Los Angeles Angels Podcast

• 0:06
  Speaker 1: Hello, Hey angel fans, and welcome back to Halo Territory.
• 0:10
  Speaker 2: I am Mike D.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: Giovanni, former RelA Times Baseball writer and host of the show,
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: joined by Mark Trumbo, the former Angels slugger my regular
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  Speaker 1: co host. Well, it was a rough weekend for our
• 0:20
  Speaker 1: gutty little Halos, who were swept in a three game
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: series by the Los Angeles Dodgers, who exacted revenge for
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: going zero to six against the Angels last year by
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: outscoring the Halos thirty one to three and out hitting
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: them twenty nine to fifteen in the series. An Angel's
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  Speaker 1: team that, according to JM. Perrymansium as its best baseball
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  Speaker 1: ahead of it has now lost twenty one of twenty
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  Speaker 1: six games as a major league were sixteen and thirty
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  Speaker 1: one record, and is on pace to lose one hundred
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: and seven games. They've never lost one hundred games before,
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  Speaker 1: so obviously that would be a ranchise record. If the
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: Angels were a playoff contender, this might have been an
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  Speaker 1: interesting measuring stick kind of weekend, but this serious showed
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: that not only the Angels nowhere near playoff contention, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't even belong in the same field as the Dodgers. Mark,
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  Speaker 1: what were your takeaways from this very ugly weekend for
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  Speaker 1: the Halos is that an opinion might be a little
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: opinion sprinkled in there, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I think that the battle for LA went to
• 1:34
  Speaker 2: the the better team. Was there any extra motivation after
• 1:40
  Speaker 2: the narrative that well, we discussed it here. It was
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  Speaker 2: discussed on the broadcast, obviously. And I think that who
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: came out the winner of this series, I think the
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  Speaker 2: owner of the ball club. I didn't see an empty
• 1:55
  Speaker 2: seat in the house, especially of a day game. A
• 1:58
  Speaker 2: lot of seats in the sun, every one of them packed.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: I'm not certain what the split was with the Jersey colors.
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  Speaker 2: I saw a lot that were not red, but that's
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  Speaker 2: to be expected.
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  Speaker 1: And let's go Dodgers chants all weekend too.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, they got a good thing going. They
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  Speaker 2: came there. I haven't been running on all cylinders, but
• 2:24
  Speaker 2: you wouldn't have known it from this series. They won handedly.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't close really, despite uh at times. You know,
• 2:33
  Speaker 2: we'll cover all of the games, but Sorean only gave
• 2:36
  Speaker 2: up a single hit and that ended up I guess
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  Speaker 2: the closest of the three games. It wasn't really all
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  Speaker 2: that close, So the Dodgers let the Angels know where
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  Speaker 2: they stand, and the Dodgers probably you know Tony for example,
• 2:51
  Speaker 2: we talked about him. I saw some hits go to
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: left field. I saw some hits go to right field.
• 2:56
  Speaker 2: I saw hits go everywhere. But he looks like he
• 2:59
  Speaker 2: might have got and hot again and maybe credit to
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  Speaker 2: his old ball club. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Now the Dodgers are opening up a big series against
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  Speaker 1: their rival, one of their rivals, San Diego Padres, and
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  Speaker 1: boy if there's a team to get right against.
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  Speaker 2: They were as we.
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  Speaker 1: Talked Friday with Bill Plunkett to the Register, they were
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  Speaker 1: kind of scuffling for much of this last few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: But they head down the five Freeway even more south
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  Speaker 1: going clicking on a lot more cylinders than they were clicking.
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  Speaker 1: But hopefully the fan experience was good, you know, for
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  Speaker 1: Angel fans. You never know. There was an interesting exchange
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  Speaker 1: before the series Friday night with our regular Halo Territory
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  Speaker 1: contributors Sam Blum and Kurt Suzuki. Sam asked the Angels
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  Speaker 1: manager if this was just a regular coal stretch or
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  Speaker 1: is it reflective of where they're at as an organization
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  Speaker 1: losing year after year. His ants just an unlucky cold stretch.
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  Speaker 1: And here was the full answer that Kurtzuzuki gave to Sam.
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  Speaker 1: I truly do believe that we've hit a cold stretch.
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  Speaker 1: Even that being said, there are a lot of games
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  Speaker 1: where we're in it or one swing away, maybe one
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  Speaker 1: pitch away, one out away, and in this game, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of weird things happen. It is what it is.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to keep pressing forward. You've got to keep
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: staying positive, keep believing that your work is good. I
• 4:30
  Speaker 1: think these guys are believing in themselves, believing in in
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  Speaker 1: each other, and we're going to turn this thing around.
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  Speaker 1: What was your sort of reaction to that exchange, Mark, I've.
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  Speaker 2: Been pretty close in the Power of Ball a few times,
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  Speaker 2: just one number away or so. I have tried to
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  Speaker 2: give the benefit of the doubt to Kurt so far,
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  Speaker 2: and I think, like a lot of fans and what
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  Speaker 2: I've seen online, it's it's wearing a little bit thin.
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  Speaker 2: He does appear to be trying to be somewhat transparent.
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  Speaker 2: It's not coming off like that. His patience has got
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  Speaker 2: to be waning. I know they had a team meeting.
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  Speaker 2: I read that they he did try one the other
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  Speaker 2: day doesn't want to do too many of them. He
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  Speaker 2: feels like they lose their effect. I'm not sure what
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  Speaker 2: effect they're they're the one the other day had, But
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  Speaker 2: if that's what inspired this series, I probably wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: too many either. He did say the players have a
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: lot of discussions. What does that mean? What do those
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  Speaker 2: look like? Hard to say, but I still, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we really don't know who the vocal team leader is.
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  Speaker 2: Who's the guy that that's holding these discussions, Who's the
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  Speaker 2: veteran that with the wisdom that's dispensing to some of
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  Speaker 2: these young players. I don't know. Haven't gotten an answer.
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  Speaker 2: I keep asking, but I don't think we're going to
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  Speaker 2: get one. And if you're looking for, you know, Suzuki
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  Speaker 2: to give anything other than and then answers like that,
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  Speaker 2: you'll probably be disappointed too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that that exchange did the lead did lead to
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  Speaker 1: some lively social media banter. I just picked out one
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  Speaker 1: that was on my feed. I gotta admit it was
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  Speaker 1: pretty funny from blah blah blah. Maybe this is a
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  Speaker 1: marketing slogan for the Halo is the twenty sixteen to
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six Los Angeles. Just a very unlucky cold stretch.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty harsh, but that's the kind of weekend it was.
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  Speaker 1: Uh So, let's let's recap this series. Uh Jack Ohano,
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  Speaker 1: which actually in Game one, was cruising through three innings
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  Speaker 1: of the opener, but things unraveled in the fourth when
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  Speaker 1: he grew the three to zero fastball to Andy Pajes,
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  Speaker 1: who crushed a three run homer. Max Munsey followed with
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: a solo shot on an o two count Mark whoop.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think the thought process was there? Throwing
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  Speaker 1: middle middle fastball in that situation when you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: a three to zero count and then way ahead on
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  Speaker 1: the count the three.
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  Speaker 2: To zero count, I can understand he needs to throw
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  Speaker 2: a strike there. You don't see a lot of guys
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  Speaker 2: turn it loose and three zero counts in today's game.
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  Speaker 2: Oftentimes it's just a statue of a take. Sometimes they'd
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  Speaker 2: take again, and sometimes that is a smart play if
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  Speaker 2: the pitcher is on the ropes and scuffling, not throwing strikes,
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  Speaker 2: although the Angels don't seem to buy into that for
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: the most part, they like to hack. That being said,
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  Speaker 2: I think what happened with Max Munsey was the first
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  Speaker 2: two pitches of that at bat were off speed, some
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  Speaker 2: combination of a change up in a slider, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that Jack was going more for the old school.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little league, but that combination of slow slow fast,
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  Speaker 2: and I think the intent was to blow it by him.
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  Speaker 2: But the location was not good. I think they were
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  Speaker 2: probably trying to go They were going to try and
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  Speaker 2: stuff him up and in Munsey swung through a few
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: of those this series, but they didn't. The location was poor.
• 8:02
  Speaker 2: It was right down the middle and he was able
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  Speaker 2: to pull it for a home run. I think what
• 8:08
  Speaker 2: led to that was pais that was a huge momentum shift,
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  Speaker 2: putting them up ahead. He had a tremendous series. Not
• 8:15
  Speaker 2: a ton of hits off hand, actually, I think he
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  Speaker 2: only got three hits. He did drive in five six runs,
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  Speaker 2: but his defense was unbelievable, unbelievable. I didn't realize how
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  Speaker 2: good he was out there. At least three well above
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  Speaker 2: average catches that off the bat. I didn't see any
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  Speaker 2: chance of those falling. But you know, he covers a
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  Speaker 2: ton of ground and that's a big weapon out there.
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  Speaker 1: So yes, ironically he was Actually I covered the Dodgers
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  Speaker 1: for those last few years at the times, and he
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  Speaker 1: was actually very much a defensive liability in his first
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  Speaker 1: year year and a half in the big leagues. So well,
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  Speaker 1: it's just very good proof that if you work hard enough,
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  Speaker 1: you know, on defense, things like that can turn around.
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  Speaker 1: So ti Oscar Hernandas went deep on an O one
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  Speaker 1: count in the sixth as well, and the Angels, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they seem to catch a break going into this series.
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  Speaker 1: When Blake Snell was scratched placed on the injured list
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  Speaker 1: because of loose bodies in the elbow, that seems to
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  Speaker 1: be the injury of the day in the big leagues.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of loose bodies run around there, but they
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  Speaker 1: would they strike out eleven times against what was essentially
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  Speaker 1: a bull playing game for the Dodgers. Really just a
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  Speaker 1: lot of empty at bats in your mind.
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  Speaker 2: I think, so when so on the surface, Snell has
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  Speaker 2: not had a great start to this year, I think
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  Speaker 2: that this is probably due to these loose bodies. Bone
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  Speaker 2: spurs very prevalent in pitchers, So when I see an
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  Speaker 2: injury like that, obviously it can be a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: But there's no surprise with the nature of you know,
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  Speaker 2: these guys throwing so hard and stuff the friction and
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  Speaker 2: the elbow, those thing's happened. But when the Dodgers have
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  Speaker 2: the weapons and the Angels have had very little success
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  Speaker 2: against guys, that was a client that opened, yes, followed
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  Speaker 2: by just matchup after matchup that did not suit the
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  Speaker 2: Angel's style of offense. Came away from this series. Angelshit
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  Speaker 2: zero home runs and they had zero wins. So I
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  Speaker 2: think is further proof that this offense is extremely reliant
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  Speaker 2: on that. I know at times we hear, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if they could just get that one big hit. There
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: was a tweet about that that, you know, a solo
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  Speaker 2: home run, it's not what they need. The Angels need
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: more line drive hits. The Dodgers beat them all different ways.
• 10:45
  Speaker 2: They did hit some home runs, but they also hit
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  Speaker 2: a lot of other things too. They were patient at
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: the plate. I believe Kurt touched on that and one
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  Speaker 2: of the answers he's done that quite a few times
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  Speaker 2: this year. Credit to the other team's offense for good
• 10:57
  Speaker 2: eyes at the plate. But well, I mean at some
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: point that I guess you well, you can just keep
• 11:04
  Speaker 2: saying it, but that was that game was their best
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  Speaker 2: chance to get one of these wins, and the Dodgers
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  Speaker 2: beat them six to nothing.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory with Mike Di Gievanna
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: and Mark Trumbo. Moving on to Game two of the series.
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  Speaker 1: The Angels had their a Jose Sriano on the mound
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  Speaker 1: and it was going pretty well for five innings. Sorry
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: given up one hit. It was a one nothing game,
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers were in front, and then suddenly Sorry just
• 12:42
  Speaker 1: lost his command completely. In the sixth inning, he walked four,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: hit a batter and gave up five runs. What happened
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: with this guy? I mean, you never cruise against the
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Dodgers lineup, but he had one of the you know,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: the best lineups in baseball shut down for five innings
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: and then just kind of fell off the cliff.
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: His stuff graded out well per some of the advanced
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: stuff that I have used for the show, but the
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: locations were poor, especially to the left handed hitters. I
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: think they were graded out as an f What I
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: saw was a guy that resembled the picture in previous
• 13:21
  Speaker 2: years more than the one to start this year. Heavily
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: favoring his sinker. He wasn't really able to spot his
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: four seamer very well, and the curveball is kind of
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: somewhere in the middle. I know he started using more
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: sliders this last time too, which is his worst pitch statistically,
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: So I am curious as to why that came about.
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: His armslot does appear to be kind of drifting down.
• 13:46
  Speaker 2: His movement is increasing horizontally and so everything is running
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: a lot more, and Gooby mentioned on the broadcast to
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  Speaker 2: his wrist was getting really to the side of the ball,
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  Speaker 2: and so he had quite a few misses that were
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: just balls out of the hand, not competitive pitches, and
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: falling behind and ultimately, you know, his stat line was
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: just very strange. One are the only give up one
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: hit but five runs. It just it wasn't It wasn't
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  Speaker 2: his best. It wasn't sharp. And the Dodgers are one
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  Speaker 2: of those teams that they whatever weakness it is, and
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: this happened to be his command. It seemed I think
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: Mooki had had a comment that they had picked up
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: that it just didn't seem like he was really locating.
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: And they hunt in a pack and they do it well,
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: so it seemed like they probably had a brief discussion
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: or it was just quite obvious and they're that experienced, Hey,
• 14:43
  Speaker 2: we need to really keyhole this guy, I mean, and
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: you know, look for a very small window and offer
• 14:48
  Speaker 2: it those pitches anything else let them go, and you
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  Speaker 2: know it just got away from him and Suzuki had
• 14:53
  Speaker 2: to come out and pull them.
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the Dodgers scoring in so many ways, and
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: you're so correct. Some of the runs came just by
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: putting a little more pressure, you know, on the defense,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: on the base pass. The Angels, we've talked about it
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: a lot. They're very one dimensional, three outcomes teams that
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: we did not see any of that one big outcome
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  Speaker 1: that they need to win. Can a team like the
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Angels start to at least, you know, transition offensively to
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: a team that puts rallies together or are they just
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: not equipped at this point with this lineup the way
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: it's put together.
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  Speaker 2: I think the question is more, when did this philosophy
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: take such deep route. It's not as if guys, all
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: of these guys their entire life, have hit with this
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: extreme emphasis on pull side home runs. Now, Josh Low
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: got a nice single. I believe maybe in Game one
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: or so he went the other way. And I'm not
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: somebody who's enamored with hits going the other way. I
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: do mention it on here because of the prevalence, and
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  Speaker 2: really it's places like drive Line, and I was reading
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  Speaker 2: up on their blog the other day. The optimum type
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  Speaker 2: of hit is the pull side ball in the air.
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  Speaker 2: It's just drilled into two young hitters' heads these days,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't think it's a great thing. It's always
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  Speaker 2: been known that if you pull the ball with authority
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  Speaker 2: in the air, a lot of good things do happen.
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  Speaker 2: But trying to do it the wrong way is a disaster,
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  Speaker 2: just does not work. And I do you know, I
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  Speaker 2: read the comments as you did. Brady gave an interview
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  Speaker 2: Anderson the other day and said that he kind of
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: just doesn't know what else to say beyond the guys
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: work habits are good. They're they're putting in quality work
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: in the batting cage. Kurt mentioned that Moncada's work in
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: the cage has impressed in the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 2: I've never I can't recall reading too many stories about that.
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  Speaker 2: So I think this team, unfortunately is kind of stuck
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  Speaker 2: in their way with this all or nothing approach and
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  Speaker 2: the pull side air. And it would take a very
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: strong voice or some analytics, you know, shoved in their
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  Speaker 2: face to say, hey, you got you gotta you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe reconsider just a little bit, because take a look around.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Game two went from bad to worse in
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: the eighth inning when Alec Manoa entered. He allowed nine runs,
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  Speaker 1: eight earned, and an eventual fifteen to two loss that
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: once again featured Adam Fraser finishing up on the mound.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I think that's a third appearance of his. Did Kurt
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: hang Manoa out to dry a little bit there? He
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: clearly didn't have his best stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Mark.
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  Speaker 2: I have a soft spot for big Manoa. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why, but I do. I think that he seems
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  Speaker 2: to not give a rats oh rats timely. The Angels
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  Speaker 2: and rally too. They have a gnat issue buzzing around
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: in front of home plate, so rats and gnats. But
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: with Manoa, he he's doing his thing. It seems like
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: he doesn't much care what anyone thinks about him. The velocity,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: it's not it doesn't look the part right now, but
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I'm not one that I know. The numbers do say
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: that more velocity is more effective, so it just looks
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: wildly out of place. But he's not the only one.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yates is not lighting up that radar gun and we
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: have a new addition to the Upper eighties fastball Club,
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: which I'd like to touch on in a minute. But
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  Speaker 2: with that, with Manoa fifty nine pitches, it was it
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: wasn't pretty, and then sent to the Triple A following
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  Speaker 2: that game, which was expected. But I don't know. I
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: think that there's still some hope. I do wonder that
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: a lot longer leashes for the pitcher, or excuse me,
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a lot longer leashes for struggling hit than pictures. Romano
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  Speaker 2: just whacked immediately Manoa shipped out. Maybe maybe they have
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  Speaker 2: a firmer understanding of what you know, the pictures are
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: likely to do, and the hitters, it's you've got to
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: give them more of a sample size and keep getting
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: them in there. So I'm not sure what to think.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: I hope, I know it turns it around. You know,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: if he finds an extra four to six miles an hour,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: that would be ideal. But I think he could get
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: away with with pitching at ninety one ninety two. He
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: does get a lot of extension. He's got some deception.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: I'm rooting for him. I don't you know, I don't
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: want to see the guy fail, and it really does
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: when they're left out there just to wear it. And
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: then Fraser, as we indicated on one of the previous
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Valuable Weapons, has heard appearance already.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask you if you felt like
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: that was going to be the last we see of
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Alec Manoa. It sounds like you think he's going to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: be back at some point.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I've already said it. I don't know why. He just
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: has an attitude that doesn't seem like what I've seen
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: here recently. I don't know. It's not really a chip
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: on the shoulder. He sends some things there. We've talked
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: about eclectic, but why not. I mean, he's a big guy,
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: he's had some success in the past, He's not that old.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: He could be a bright spot, or he could be
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the opposite. Some have said they never want to see
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: him in the big leagues again, but I'm not ready
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to give up on him. I have no clue why,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: but I think he's going to turn it around.
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  Speaker 1: And welcome back to Halo Territory with Mike D. G
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Alvana and Mark Trumbo. Sundays Series finale featured the Angels
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: debut of Grayson Rodriguez, the big right hander acquired from
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: the Baltimore Orioles for Taylor Ward last winter. Shockingly, it
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: did not go well. Grey Rod gave up seven earned
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: runs and seven hits and three and two thirds innings.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: He struck out four, walked four, but his line might
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: have been a lot better had he been quicker to
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: cover first base on High Song Kim's fourth inning browner.
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: That first baseman Nolan shan Well fielded, Kim beat Rodriguez
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: for the bag and what would have or should have
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: been the third out of the inning, and the Dodgers
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: went on to score five runs on Otani's two run single,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Pa has His two run single, and Tucker's RBI single,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: turning a two to nothing game into a seven to
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: nothing game. Mark, is that just a little rust on
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: gray Rod's part? First game? I think it had been
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: almost two full years since he's been in a major
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: league game.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Are we talking about the out and overall?
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: No, the play at first the play at first.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Play it was? That was Nolan Shanowell's fault. Oh, how
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: so I watched it a number of times Grayson did
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: not stumble off the mount or anything he made. Now,
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: the runner is very fast, I mean, he flies, but
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: if you were to watch Nolan, you know he did
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: backhand the ball pump fake to second base, which kind
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: of told me that I don't know what his plan was.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And then he made a very awkward looking throw that
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: hard to describe it. It looked like if I was
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: throwing left handed or something, being a right handed thrower.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: It was a strange play. But I saw, you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the initial you know, blame was placed on Grayson, and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, as a former first basement I was like,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: I totally disagree, and most people online, I think even
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: bt H saw that saw it the same way they thought.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I think that was on Nolan. I'm not trying to
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: pick on him, but as a first basement there, I
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: have no idea why he was pump faking towards second base.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: He should have been grabbing that and immediately you know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: closing the ground to first base. So in that regard that,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: you know, that's how I saw it, and it didn't
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: help the cause. Next hitter, I believe what was a show?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Hey to run single and then you know, things started
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the spiral, so I thought Grayson stuff was actually pretty
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: pretty good. His change up was not that good. That's
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: going to be a big weapon. I'm sure he'll refine it.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: But with him, I agree with that. With what I've
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: heard too, this is the results are not near as
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: important as the overall picture of you know, how does
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: he look, how's the health, how's he rebounding? The velocity
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: is great. I'm not rooting for him to hit one hundred.
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I think it's just fine if he's you know, ninety five,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: ninety six is awesome. He looked healthy, he looked strong.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: The results weren't great, but I do think that this
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: was an act a good sign for the Angels.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, his fastball average ninety six point three and it
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: touched ninety nine miles an hour. The change up, which
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: you know is his best secondary average eighty three. He
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: did have a few good strikeouts with it. But yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I think overall the command wasn't great. But for a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: first outing, do you feel like at least gives the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Angels some hope that they have. You know, you got Urania,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: who's pitching pretty well, you got Soriano's pitching pretty well.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Could just give him at least a third starter, three, four,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe even four with Kohanowitz if he pitches well,
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: that their rotation might at least be something they can
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: build on. Here.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: As far as the team overall, I don't what are
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you going to say about them? I think for Grayson
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: as a player who I always root for the player
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: if they run hard. But I think that he he
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: looked very good in terms of his fastball, had some
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: command to it, had some you know, his breaking ballocks sharp.
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: We'll see how he grades out his command. What was
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: was not ideal. But this is a guy that big picture,
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: we have four years of control on him. Yes, gave
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: up Taylor Ward, which you know he's doing his thing
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: over in Baltimore making a lot more money too. But
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: I still think this move could really work out. It
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: could be pair one of Perry's good ones. Now Grayson's
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: got to stay healthy. I think that that will always
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: be the first topic that that I would discuss with him,
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: because he has the stuff, and we hear so much
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: it's about the player, it's about the individual. Well, this
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: is a good guy. I mean I did play with
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: him briefly. He's got the right mentality. He listened more
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: than he spoke. He wants to win, he works hard.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: He's somewhat soft spoken, but he goes out there, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: you know, I was very impressed, and I'm rooting for
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: him to keep it up. One thing that I did
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: want to know, I alluded to it earlier a little bit.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Ryan Johnson. Yeah, another guy that the stat cast was
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: having trouble labeling his pitches. I looked it up last year.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: He was averaging over ninety four miles an hour on
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: his two seamer and he was throwing upper eighties. What
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: do you think is going on there?
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I'm not sure I've seen
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: him enough to know when he's hurt, if he's hurt,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: if he's hiding something. His arm out did not look
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: crisp at all, and he's he was the compensation pick
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: for show. Hey, you know, a supplemental first round draft
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: choice who you know we've talked about it. Made zero
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: starts in the minor leagues last year and then was
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: sent to Tri Cities for the remainder Broke camp this
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: year as a starter. Sent out was an injury. It's
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: sort of yeah, he had an illness and then a
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: tweaked a hammy or a caf or something like that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I read the comments that he's back
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: up simply because they needed an arm. So if this
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: guy is not a prospect, then that's fine. But with
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: an organization like this, and I still think he could
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: be really good. He struggled, He gets left handed hitters,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: But what is going on with the Where do those
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: six miles an hour go on the heat?
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: That's a concern. I do think he's also getting jerked
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: around a little bit. Yeah, I agree with you. If
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: he is one of your starting pitching prospects, darn't it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Treat him like a starter. You know, if he needs
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: to go down and get stretched out of triple A,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: keep him down there, get him stretched out till he's
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: ready to throw, you know, five solid innings, six innings
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: at the big league level, then you can call him
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: up and see what he's got. But yeah, I don't
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: understand this constant back and forth. You know, Oh, he's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: here because of a need. Oh, we want him to develop.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: It's like you're on one hundred and seven lost pace
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: right now. I think you got to look, you know,
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: you got to look at these young pitchers especially the
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: starters with more of an eye on development. We're going
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: to close the show with a quote from Kurt Suzuki
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: that actually came after Saturday night's game, but holds just
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: as true considering, you know, the sweet and the series,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and kurtz said, there's no sugarcoating it, right, twenty out
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of twelve. Now it's twenty one out of twenty six
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: games they've lost. It's not great, Suzuki said, But at
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, we've got to come back.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: We got to play tomorrow. We got to get ready
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: to play. Forget about this game and move on. That
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: seems like an easy thing to say, Mark, But how
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: tough it How tough it will it? How tough will
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: it actually be for the Angels to recover from a
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: series like this? I mean, granted, they're probably not expected
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: to win two out of three from the Dodgers. They
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: really had it handed to him this weekend.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: At this point, who cares? Who cares? What I'm serious about? That?
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: The Dodgers, I mean, they've lost everybody, So it's not
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: as if that this should be a soul crushing defeat.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: Just another three game, you know, three games for the
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: other team. I don't. We've tried to figure quite a
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: few things out. What's the plan, what is this organization doing,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: who's in charge, what's going on? I mean, let's talk
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: about the medical briefly. Oh happy seemed to I mean
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: he did rush back. We heard the comments, and he
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: said he got the timetable from the doctors and immediately
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: said I'm cutting it in half. Just I guess that's
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: what he was determined to do. I think he might
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: have done it very few reoub games and immediately first
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: came back, has to exit writhing in pain, took one
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: off the wrist again. Now they didn't get any X rays.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you do that because you know it shows
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: insufficient healing on a break. There's no reason to get
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: it looked at. I do understand that part. So it's
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: just going to show that it's still broken. But he's
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: determed to play through it. Now, what's the downside of that?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: The stats going even further into the toilet, playing through
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: injury and more frustration. More everything is swings actually looked
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: all right. I'm surprised that it's not bothering them more.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: He's probably got it taped up a ton, so that's
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: going on. It just basically telling Suzuki that he's going
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: to play, you know, kind of almost making the decisions himself.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: I found to be a little bit strange, and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what to really say about where this team
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: is going or what the plan is, other than they
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: are paid to go out there and paid handsomely to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: play baseball. So they'll be in uniform and they'll be
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: out there playing against the A's and again, I mean
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: the Dodgers. You know, this may be a big I
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: know a lot of people think the Angels are great
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: at getting other teams hot. This could be the case. Again. Uh,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: you know, I wish we had more positive storylines to
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: put out there, but Uranya has been a bright spot.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: I still like Barraza and some of the other guys,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: but not a lot, not a lot of great things
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: in this series. So sorry, Angel fans. All right, we're
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: going to close the show with that. Thanks for watching,
• 32:20
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• 32:23
  Speaker 2: on Halo Territory.