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"Trump EO on Addiction" (Tuesday, March 24, 2026, Hour 4) · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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Speaker 4: This is Michelle Steve. I was calling in for our
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Speaker 4: discussion on President Trump's new executive order on our addiction
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Speaker 4: crisis here in the United States.
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Speaker 2: Well, you are just you are. You're my favorite kind
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Speaker 2: us to be on. But that's good and I appreciate
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Speaker 2: you taking some time out to talk with us about that. Michelle,
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Speaker 2: We've got some business to take care of if you
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Speaker 2: don't mind hanging on the line for us.
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Speaker 4: Not at all. Look forward to our discussion absolutely.
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Speaker 2: While you don't know me yet, women always say that
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Speaker 2: I look forward to meeting you, and then for some
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Speaker 2: reason afterwards, I don't know what happens. Yeah, she's laughing.
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Speaker 2: See that's always a good sign. So you disarm them
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Speaker 2: with self effacing humor. That's always been my tactic, and
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Speaker 2: it worked exactly one time. And that's all that matters
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Speaker 2: is my wife, you know, fell prey to it, and
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Speaker 2: that's that for that. But we'll get into several folks
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Speaker 2: the blame game discussion we were having regarding James Carville
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Speaker 2: and all the folks who are blaming Mark Levin for things,
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Speaker 2: And the Sharia Free American Caucus that's been started, we're
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Speaker 2: going to talk about it, if nothing else. We're going
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Speaker 2: to get into it at Seapack when we get to
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Speaker 2: Dallas in a couple of days, because Congressman Sell is
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Speaker 2: going to be there talking with folks about this Sharia
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Speaker 2: Free America Caucus that he started there with some great folks,
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Speaker 2: Mike Carodopolis, Ben Klein, folks of that nature. But here
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Speaker 2: night in the Senate, he doesn't have a budget to
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Speaker 2: work with yet, and they offered an idea that would
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Speaker 2: split ICE away from the Department of Homeland Security and
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Speaker 2: make it a separate funding stream. The President said that's
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Speaker 2: a non starter and would be vetoed if it got
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Speaker 2: to his desk. Ukraine is saying they have irrefutable evidence
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Speaker 2: that Russia is continuing to provide support and intelligence to Iran.
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Speaker 2: That may have been a video that Russia posted. Vladimir
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Speaker 2: Putin in a video message posted to his social media
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Speaker 2: congratulating Iran on nor Ruz and saying that Moscow remained
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Speaker 2: a loyal friend and a reliable partner to Tehran. I'm
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Speaker 2: as Homeland Security Secretary on mostly a party line vote,
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Speaker 2: though a couple of Democrats did join the Republicans in support.
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Speaker 2: President Trump Monday said the US was talking with respected
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Speaker 2: Iranian leaders, claiming that the Islamic Republic has reached out
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Speaker 2: Who does cracker and cheese? I presume I'm the cheese.
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Speaker 2: Then doctor Clark on the line with us this morning
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Speaker 2: at four three four eight A two four to two
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Speaker 2: one seven. Then Michelle, Steve and I want to get
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Speaker 2: into this issue because the Trump administration, perhaps for the
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Speaker 2: first time since Nancy Reagan, seems to get what our
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Speaker 2: addiction problem needs.
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Speaker 17: Uh uh.
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Speaker 2: And maybe there's hope for us yet. Uh there, But
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Speaker 2: of course they'll tell me GoGG it anyway, Doctor Clark,
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Speaker 2: how are you doing this morning, sir?
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Speaker 13: I'm all good. I guess I'm backing to being the cracker.
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Speaker 2: Huh, Well it's that, I mean, have you listened to
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Speaker 2: my humor?
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Speaker 13: Would you argue that I had PAF of it.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you you could be cheesy, but
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Speaker 2: I mean I'm I and I have been a cracker
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Speaker 2: in my life, and you know, believe me, in New York.
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Speaker 2: We got crackers in New York just as much as
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Speaker 2: anywhere else.
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Speaker 6: Okay, so quadruple amputee cornhole champions shot his friend Joe.
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Speaker 13: That's handy capable.
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Speaker 13: I just didn't let things hold him back, you know,
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Speaker 13: no he did not.
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Speaker 6: this morning, Joe about that. No, they got one in
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Speaker 13: They don't call her.
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Speaker 6: Operative for the CIA, but they talk about it running
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Speaker 6: as a model.
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Speaker 13: But you know, the more we learn, and they love
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Speaker 13: their code names too, I'd like to know.
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Speaker 6: What hers is. I'll be working on that. I think
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Speaker 6: you're still working for the TIA and probably this is
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Speaker 2: New Dominion or something like that, you know. Put yeah, well,
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Speaker 2: you know, and here's the thing. I appreciate the American
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Speaker 6: Well, there you go, just more to study on there.
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Speaker 6: So exactly what is your route? You're coming through North Alabama?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've looked at the map. I don't know. You
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Speaker 2: pretty secret there, so I don't know what town. I
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Speaker 13: Some point, I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 6: the bottom of a safety pin.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, right there where the Tennessee. We're right
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Speaker 2: on the Tennessee River right now. That's where we stopped. Here.
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Speaker 2: I'm looking at at you know, lookout point, and it
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Speaker 2: is gorgeous up there. Can't there's a coffee shop up there.
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Speaker 2: I'm told I'm supposed to go to the Mayfly coffee
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Speaker 2: are still working on the contract. You're not technically on
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Speaker 2: here yet. But it was a good halfway point anyway
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Speaker 2: to stop there. But our friends in Dalton, Georgia. You know,
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Speaker 2: Dalton's been rocking us since the day we came on
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Speaker 2: the air, and they love us down there. So I
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Speaker 2: appreciate that, sir, But we will look you up.
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Speaker 13: About eighty miles downstream from you.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, I appreciate it. As long as it's downstream,
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Speaker 2: I think I can make it. I'll talk to you soon.
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Speaker 13: Take care.
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Speaker 2: Michelle Steve wants to spend some time with us, and
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Speaker 2: I said this at the onset Michelle, and I appreciate
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Speaker 2: you joining us on the program to talk about the
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Speaker 2: president's efforts in fighting addiction. I have often argued, and
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Speaker 2: I remember this from the day, one of the only
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Speaker 2: times we've statistically made any headway in the quote unquote
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Speaker 2: war on drugs was when Nancy Reagan went after the
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Speaker 2: consumer and said, listen, you can say no, you don't
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Speaker 2: have to do this. And you know what, did it
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Speaker 2: stop drug use?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: But it actually started to make kids think twice about it.
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Speaker 2: Is the President's attempt to help fight the addictions, all
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Speaker 2: the different kind of addictions, and to work on it
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Speaker 2: from that aspect, different than a lot of other presidents
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Speaker 2: and a lot of other governments have tried.
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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, so right now in America the highest
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Speaker 4: point ever in terms of Americans struggling with addiction. And
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Speaker 4: my particular angle on this is as it relates to homelessness,
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Speaker 4: which we'll get to in a minute, but it's really
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Speaker 4: important to understand, and this is the crux of the
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Speaker 4: President's executive order, that addiction is a disease of the brain.
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Speaker 4: Mental illness and addiction have long been classified as diseases
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Speaker 4: of the brain. And when diseases go untreated, as they
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Speaker 4: have in the last decade and a half, and I'll
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Speaker 4: explain that here in a minute, they get worse, just
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Speaker 4: like heart disease and cancer. If they go untreated, they
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Speaker 4: get worse. And we have been taking a over the
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Speaker 4: last decade and a half a less a fair approach.
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Speaker 4: Let them do what they're going to do. It's their
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Speaker 4: individual choice. So we've been in essence, managing decline versus
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Speaker 4: creating pathways to recovery. And it starts with the understanding
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Speaker 4: again the crux of the President's executive order that these
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Speaker 4: are diseases of the brain. And when you struggle with
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Speaker 4: these diseases, you often struggle with another disease called anisignosia,
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Speaker 4: which is a deficit of self awareness, which means you
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Speaker 4: don't know how sick you are. Right, So I often
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Speaker 4: hear out there, Oh, well, this is what they want
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Speaker 4: to do, this is the life they're choosing. No, they
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Speaker 4: really don't understand the kind of misery they're in. And
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Speaker 4: now is.
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Speaker 2: That is that? Is that brought on by their particular
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Speaker 2: choices in inebri It's whether it be alcohol or or
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Speaker 2: heroine or any point in between. Uh, is that an asygnosia?
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Speaker 4: You know something signs good?
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's actually the first time this morning I've got
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Speaker 2: friends in my name. But is that kind of something
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Speaker 2: you can give yourself through these kind of abuses?
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Speaker 4: You know, there hasn't been enough research into you know,
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Speaker 4: is it fentanyl that is accelerating that or this? You know,
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Speaker 4: the horse trenk And there's obviously lots of new things,
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Speaker 4: less new things coming over the border now things to
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Speaker 4: this president, but there hasn't been a lot of research.
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Speaker 4: What the research shows is that often when you struggle
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Speaker 4: with severe addiction and severe mental illness, you're also struggling
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Speaker 4: with annasignosia. So in the President's executive order, he's saying,
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Speaker 4: we've we've got to create pathways to recovery. That needs
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Speaker 4: to be the goal, not managing decline. Create pathways to recovery,
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Speaker 4: help people restore their lives and get back on a
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Speaker 4: better path. Recovery is one thousand percent possible. Does it
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Speaker 4: happen with everyone? No, But that needs to be the goal.
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Speaker 4: And that's where this executive for her heads.
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Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't happen with everybody, but it also doesn't
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Speaker 2: happen every time. So if if you try, I mean,
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Speaker 2: we have a dear friend whose daughter, she's forty and
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Speaker 2: has been battling drugs for most of her adult life,
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Speaker 2: has finally snapped out of it, it seems, and it
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Speaker 2: took a trip to Sicily to do it. You know, family,
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Speaker 2: but you know, to get away. And in this particular case,
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Speaker 2: it seems from an outsider's view, she got a wave
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Speaker 2: from the the community that she was living with and
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Speaker 2: all the different manifestations of this and that that it
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29:32
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29:39
Speaker 4: That's well, Yeah, I grew up.
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29:45
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29:50
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30:08
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30:31
Speaker 2: all the other things that feed into this.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So within the homeless population, I'll start there, about
30:40
Speaker 4: eighty percent of the population are struggling with pretty severe
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Speaker 4: addiction and or mental illness again, you know, diseases of
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Speaker 4: get worse. It is, so addiction and illness often go
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Speaker 4: hand in hand, not just in the homeless population, in
31:03
Speaker 4: the overall population. But there really is not a lot
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Speaker 4: of research as to do and had. I spent fifteen
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Speaker 4: years on the front line running one of Northern California's
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Speaker 4: largest programs for homeless women and children, and about fifty
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Speaker 4: percent of the cases it seemed that addiction preceded homelessness
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Speaker 4: and maybe some mental illness. But in about fifty percent
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Speaker 4: percent of the cases, addiction and mental illness were a
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31:42
Speaker 4: obviously in war, but it's also very traumatic to be homeless.
31:48
Speaker 4: You're experiencing a lot of violence, a lot of you know,
31:52
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32:04
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Speaker 2: homeless population. You know, I want to talk about government
32:26
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32:33
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32:53
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33:01
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Speaker 4: Well one thousand percent. And again, this is a medical
33:29
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33:36
Speaker 4: terms of the depth of their struggles. So you know,
33:39
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33:52
Speaker 4: the homelessness crisis in particular. But right now, again, the
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34:06
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Speaker 2: Well, if any if anything else that had that kind
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Michelle, So what is that you said? You talk
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35:11
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35:19
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Speaker 4: Well, the answer is to start with the definition of success,
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36:11
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36:16
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36:36
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36:46
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36:51
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37:31
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Speaker 4: Thank you so much at the Fixed Homelessness Initiative for
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Speaker 4: a shine.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, taking a shine to you as well. Now
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Speaker 2: the sun is rising over Chattanooga. And see what everyone's about.
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Speaker 2: So pardon me when it comes to Lookout Point and
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Speaker 2: oh yes, gorgeous up there. You know I mentioned Mayfly
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Speaker 2: It's a little bit to the southeast of where we
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Speaker 2: at right now. But we appreciate your efforts this one, Adam, Oh,
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Speaker 2: we should have saved this one. I thought you were
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Speaker 2: San Antonio. Adam listens to us on k l UP
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Speaker 2: We put chapters and verse up on the podcast. I know,
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Speaker 2: each hour, so you can do jump tos Kareem wanted
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Speaker 2: us to take the commercials out. I'm sure you know
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Speaker 2: that's something that some folks do, but it's just it
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Speaker 2: is time that I don't have right now. But you know,
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Speaker 2: we do what we can and we put it there
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Speaker 2: for you so you can catch up with us. A
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Speaker 2: couple of emails on the subject of whose fault it
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Speaker 2: is Joe this one, I'm going to pick the one
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Speaker 2: that is I guess again on the position and we
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Speaker 2: were talking about this both from the standpoint of Trump
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Speaker 2: only invaded Iran because dot dot dot, whether it's Israel
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Speaker 2: told us to or Mark Levin told us to because
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Speaker 2: Israel told him to, or whatever the case may be.
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Speaker 2: We only invaded Iran because Israel told us to, he
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Speaker 2: says Joe. Advisors are a very important part of any
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Speaker 2: president and repertoire. Every great president is usually surrounded by
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Speaker 2: great advisors. This is why I don't think Reagan was
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Speaker 2: a great president. He surrounded himselves with people who weren't
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Speaker 2: great advisors. And I think this constantly. Hamstring's President Trump,
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Speaker 2: who I personally think is exactly what the world needed
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Speaker 2: in the American president, but he keeps surrounding himself with
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Speaker 2: people like Christy Nome Dean And I appreciate your point,
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Speaker 2: and yours is not an unusual standpoint from a lot
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Speaker 2: of folks, because you want to and it becomes that
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Speaker 2: Abraham Lincoln, I guess he sort of did all future
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Speaker 2: presidents dirty by the way he built his cabinet with
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Speaker 2: people who were in both political parties. Remember, the Republicans
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Speaker 2: were a pretty new political movement when Abraham Lincoln was
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Speaker 2: elected president, so you know the idea of being bipartisan
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Speaker 2: was not novel because you were picking people who were
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Speaker 2: supposedly the best at their fields, not just rewarding people
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Speaker 2: who were loyal supporters. And maybe there's a part of
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Speaker 2: the world that needs to wake up from that kind
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Speaker 2: of patronage. You know. It's not certainly not the spoils
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Speaker 2: era where you just filled the government up with people
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Speaker 2: who gave money to your campaign, But it is an
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Speaker 2: era where advice has to be from the best place.
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Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, there have to
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Speaker 2: be deciders. And do I make decisions based on what
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Speaker 2: my wife tells me is a good idea? Yeah? Is
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Speaker 2: that the end of the story? Does she tell me
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Speaker 2: what to do when I just go execute it?
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Speaker 1: No?
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Speaker 2: Ask her. I mean, there have been plenty of times
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Speaker 2: she's sat there and not talked to me for hours
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Speaker 2: and hours and hours because I did something that you know,
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Speaker 2: was against what she did. And she will spare no
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Speaker 2: expense at telling me when that happens and when when
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Speaker 2: it blows up in my face. But we have to
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Speaker 2: you know, you have to be a sum total of
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Speaker 2: your own decisions. So if President Trump goes into Iran
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Speaker 2: and every one of these people, Tucker Carlson, Candae Owens
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Speaker 2: and all these boys. Ah, he said, and he wouldn't
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Speaker 2: start any new wars. This isn't starting a new war.
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Speaker 2: And I wish the President would sit there and make
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Speaker 2: that more abundantly clear to these people. This isn't a
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Speaker 2: new war. This is finally saying enough is enough to
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Speaker 2: the schoolyard bully. I mean, how many times are we
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Speaker 2: going to scuffle with every kid in the schoolyard bully's
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Speaker 2: gang before we say, hey, maybe we should stop the
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Speaker 2: schoolyard bully from going and getting a new bunch of
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Speaker 2: kids to go trying to steal our lunch money from us.
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Speaker 2: And is it going to be the end of the days?
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Speaker 2: You know, there are the folks. So we can't go
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Speaker 2: to war because the Strait of Hormones, the Strait of Hormos,
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Speaker 2: was the hostage in the basement that Iran has been
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Speaker 2: using tacitly since they seize power from the Shah. Don't
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Speaker 2: mess with us, or we will. You know any number
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Speaker 2: of things. I've read stories from the eighties where there
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Speaker 2: were threats of just bombing the land around the Strait
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Speaker 2: of Hormus and filling it with rocks and rubble and
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Speaker 2: making it impassable forever. I mean, these are the kind
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Speaker 2: of zelotry we're talking about. So did Donald Trump do
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Speaker 2: it because a series of advisors said it would be
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Speaker 2: a good idea? Did Donald Trump do it because Israel
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Speaker 2: said we have your six? I think any number of
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Speaker 2: those things can be true. But did he do it
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Speaker 2: because somebody told him to? And you're and the people
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Speaker 2: who say that generally are the ones who if a
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Speaker 2: whistleblower gets a big bag of cash from a political party,
52:01
Speaker 2: well that doesn't mean he wasn't really whizzle blowing. It's
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Speaker 2: just it's frustrating because I'll be the first one to
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Speaker 2: tell you sometimes there's a little bit of both that
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Speaker 2: can be true. My son has this, you know, poor
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Speaker 2: k Nolo's dos Why not both? Why can't too sure?
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Speaker 2: And that's that's why I get so weary of people
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Speaker 2: who are just on a campaign and they won't talk
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Speaker 2: about both sides of it. It's just I've got to
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Speaker 2: get my campaign agenda out there. It's wearisome sometimes, but
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Speaker 2: we try to dilute all that for your easy consumption.
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Speaker 2: Each morning, we're going to go visit our friends at
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Speaker 2: Until then, I am Joe Thomas Song and thanks for
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