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51. Bear, Otter, and the Kid ( Bear, Otter, and the Kid Chronicles 1/4) · The Book-Watchers

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  Little ones. So today's episode, what are we talking about today? So
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  today we are going to be continuing talking about my new favorite author. Like
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  his name is t. J. Kloone. He loves the author just I
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  love him. He is the author of the Green Creek novels, including Wolf's
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  Song and It's and its sequels. He's written like, He's written a lot
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  of different like dozens of different books, most if not all of them are
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  gay romance. That's his primary genre writing, and I love it. I
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  was, I would say, desperately needing, but I was. I was
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  definitely like I needed like something different because I typically read just like fantasy and
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  science fiction books and fiction or like and occasionally I'll read a horror novel.
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  But most most of the horror books I've read were by Stephen King. And
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  I mean, let's say said Stephen King books. They're good, but and
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  while they do have those fucked up moments like you're just like, oh my
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  god, dude's unhinged, I don't find them that scary like to me.
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  His books aren't really that scary. But we're not here to talk about Stephen
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  King. We're here to talk about TJ. Kloone. And so, after
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  I read Wolf's Song and its sequels, I just wanted to continue reading his
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  stuff because I was like, man, I don't want to stop. I
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  want to keep. I want more cute gay romance ship all right, and
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  uh, since I read I read all of the books on Kindle, Kindle
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  immediately gave me a recommendation like what's read next. You know, once you
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  reach the end of the books on the Kindle, it a little pop up
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  comes up like, hey, you like this book, maybe you'll like this
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  book. This book and by the same author. And immediately it uh,
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  it recommended one of his older book series, and that is bear Otter and
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  the Kid and so, and that is the book we are going to be
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  reviewing today. Bear Otter and the Kid is another gay is another gay romance
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  novel. It's censored around It's well, okay, it's more of like it
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  has like elements of like a coming of age type story as well as like
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  elements of just fair warning, there are elements of some forms of abuse in
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  this book. Now, it's not like oh, like the the couple,
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  the romantic couple, the romantic pair are abusing each other. It's more of
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  like, uh, there's elements of neglect as well as it deals with it
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  tackles issues of like mental health, abandonment, and it's also but on a
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  more positive note, it has a lot of uh like found family. So
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  we see like the main characters building an entirely new family around themselves, especially
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  after really a traumatic event, and we see the we also see it's like
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  a coming out story as well, at least his first book, because main
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  character didn't even realize he was gay. And this is something this is like
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  something that not many people talk about sometimes, like especially if you are a
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  person who was never really exposed to like homosexuality or the LGBTQ community. Right,
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  you grow up believing that it's just one way, like you can only
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  you get you live, you grow up, you get a job, you
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  get married, you have kids, and that's all there is to life.
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  Right, And it's kind of like that, And he begins to realize that
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  he's not straight and he's in love with a man, and not many people
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  talk about that because like it's that kind of when people like especially like the
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  people like gay people from smaller communities that it's a lot harder for them to
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  come to terms with their sexuality because they don't have access to that kind of
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  they or rather, they weren't exposed to that kind of to that kind of
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  demographic. So when they start realizing that's what they are, it's a lot
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  harder for them to accept because they don't realize like it. Outside of that
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  little corner of the world, there's just so much more for them. Yeah,
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  and it's okay, gay, go gay. We're all gay here.
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  Yeah. Yeah. If you're not gay, you're boring, kiddy kidding,
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  al killing kidding, I mean straight people, h h grouse fucking breeders.
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  I'm just kidding. Damn damn Jacob to drag them. No, there's no
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  hate here. There's no hate here. We might be canceled by what a
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  bunch of homophobes. If you're listening to us babes, you're not You're not
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  straight, You're heterosexual. The straits are the problem people. You're heterosexual.
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  If you're listening to two fagots talk about books that are yeah, you mean
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  homosexual? No no, no, no no no. If you're heterosexual,
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  you just happen to be attracted to women. If you're straight, you're one
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  of them people that like you either straight, there's all you can't be gay,
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  you choose to be that way, you should be straight. Those are
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  the straight people. Those the those are the homophobes. So you're not straight,
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  you're heterosexual. It's like saying, what white versus white trash. They're
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  just white. They're just white. They're white trash. There's like it's like
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  the verison of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, anyway, So without
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  further further adieu, right, yeah, right, let's get into it.
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  Yes, I mean right, uh yeah, let's go. We're go ahead
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  and get into this. So as the title pretty much the title the the
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  title is the also the name of the three main characters. So centered around
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  a young man named Derek Derek McKenna. He is the main character of the
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  story, but he is often referred to by his nickname Bear. And for
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  those thirsty bitches out there, no, he is not a bear. Like
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  he's not. He's actually he actually fits fits more as a twink. But
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  he there's a story behind his nickname and we'll get to that in a second
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  then, of course, So it's center around Derek McKenna who goes by Bear
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  and his love interest. His name is Oliver Thompson. But when Bear first
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  met Oliver, Bear was like about six years old and Oliver was about I
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  think he was like fourteen or fifteen, because there's like a good nine year
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  age gap between the two of them. So when he first met him,
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  he saw a note written on his on Oliver's bedroom door with his name on
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  it, but the handwriting was not really legible. So he asked his best
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  friend, Creede, who is Oliver's younger brother, and it's about the same
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  age as Bear. Your brother is like, your brother's name is Otter,
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  and Creed, who is that typical little shit of a brother. It's like,
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  oh, I love that. That's it. From this day forward,
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  Oliver is now Otter, so that's just what he goes by now period,
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  and then the kid and then it also the story is also focused on Bear's
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  younger brother, Tyson McKenna or the kid now kid is okay, let's see,
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  is about twelve to thirteen years younger than Bear. So by the time
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  Bear, so when Bear was like about thirteen years old, his mom had
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  his younger brother and by the time he was eighteen, like he was seventeen
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  eighteen years old Tyson, which is round, which is when the story actually
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  begins, kid is about six years old. So to start off, this
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  book starts on a very dark note, say the least because of course it's
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  a it's a gay novel. All right, we gaze. We have all
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  the trauma you name it, we got it. Daddy issues, we got
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  that, mommy issues, we got that too. Abandonment issues, Oh we
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  got that, and we got that. And also so does Bear and his
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  brother ty because their mother, for starters, she is a She is an
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  alcoholic and a heavy smoker. So growing up both Baron Tyson, they had
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  to live with their mom's alcoholism and smoking. Now, she was never abusive
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  in the like outwardly abusive in the way where she like yells, talks down
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  to them, or even physically is physically violent with them. But the thing
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  is the thing about this book is that it addresses that abuse is not always
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  just that it's not always just yelling, screaming, kicking and punching it or
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  just like put downs and condescending. No, it's neglect is a form of
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  abuse. And their mom was a neglectful person. She never really did anything
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  to actually take care of them. She did the bare minimum. She made
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  sure that they had a roof over their head, she made sure that they
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  were fed, but really she never went above and beyond for them to make
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  sure that her two sons had a good life. They lived in a shitty
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  Rundown apartment and there were times where Bear felt like he had to really like
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  he had. Bear felt like he had to grow up a lot faster,
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  especially with when his brother came along, because even though his mom did just
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  the bare minimum for to make sure that a kid didn't start and was taken
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  care of, she was still neglectful and there were times where Bear would find
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  himself having to take care of his baby brother instead of living his life now.
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  Bear never felt any kind of resentment towards his UH. Towards the kid
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  UH. He's fiercely defense defensive of his younger brother. He takes care of
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  him. He UH. Growing up, Ty learned to look to and rely
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  on his brother more than his mom. Like you know, they didn't exactly
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  hate their mom, but they knew that she was not really going to like
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  she's not really putting effort into their lives or into their air, and they
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  basically adopted that mindset of like, oh wait, oh great, like what's
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  she doing now? Oh she drunk? Oh she she drunk again, Okay,
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  like business as usual, which is which is honestly like, it's sad,
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  like when you' when you're when you're a child and you grow up with
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  that, it's really sad because you're not looking at that point, you're not
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  looking at your parent with love or respect or adoration. It's just it's a
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  form of content. And you know, it's not really outward or like open,
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  they're not really outward and open about it. There's just there is a
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  form of content and resentment there and there. At the beginning of the story,
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  he was beginning, he was just on his uh. He was just
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  on the uh in the process of getting ready to graduate from high school.
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  He had plans to go to an out of state university. He had his
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  own goals, his own life goals and dreams. He wanted to become a
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  writer. And while he was concerned for his brother being left alone with his
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  mom, he figured, Okay, well, he'll be fine. His mom.
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  Their mom was never the kind of person to like mistreat them or anything
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  like that. He figured, you know, Tye is a very smart kid,
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  and he'll he'll be okay. He's just gonna Bear is just gonna make
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  sure that to check in on Tyson from time to time, to make sure
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  that the kid is not, you know, it is doing okay and has
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  everything he needs while he gets himself ready for his own future. But literally,
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  but unfortunately, that's not gonna happen because literally, the night before Bear's
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  eighteenth birthday, their mother leaves. She just dips ew. She didn't say
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  a word to them, She didn't give him any kind of clue or indication
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  that she was planning on leaving, just out of nowhere she left. The
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  only thing she left Bear was a note as well as paperwork for assuming power
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  of attorney over Tye, which is really like which when I read that part,
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  like power of attorney for a child, like I mean, I think
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  like some people can get that. But like if like let's say the parent
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  isn't like their parent or leader legal guardian isn't able to like do the things
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  they need to take care of the kid, but they still have custody of
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  the kid, I think somebody else can like take responsibility. I don't know,
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  it was really weird. He just got a letter that was poorly mean,
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  Like like the letter like uh, was full of typos and just like
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  it just really showed how moronic their mom was, like uh. But either
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  way. She told him that her her current boyfriend what had gotten a job
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  out of state and wanted her to go with him, but having kids wasn't.
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  Having her kids tag along wasn't in the picture, so she decided she
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  was going to She decided that since Bear was already going to be eighteen,
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  he's old enough to take care of the kid. And she thinkured and she
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  told, and she told him in the letter like you've always been better,
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  you know, taking care of top of the kid, more than I have.
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  He'll do, You'll do great, you know, I believe in you.
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  Blah blah blah. I'm I'm out of here, going to see the
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  world and that shit. And it was heartbreaking to say, to say the
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  least, or Bear, because Bear was ready to finally get out on his
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  own, get away from his mom and from those responsibilities that he had put
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  on him because even before his mom left, like I said, he was
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  already pretty much taken care of the kid. But he wanted to live his
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  own life and make his own decisions. But their mom left and instead of
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  ensuring that Bear gets full custody of the kid and everything is done right,
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  she just left him with some bullshit documents about granting him power of attorney.
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  It was all sketchy and like was not actually legal because uh, not to
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  spoil anything, but in uh one of the one of the future books that
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  does come back to bite both Bear and his mom in the ass because it
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  wasn't the the legal guardianship of ty was never properly addressed, was never was
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  never properly handled. So they had to deal with CPS and everything. But
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  but that's for the that's for another book. Right now, we're gonna focus
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  on this. Uh. So Bear, even before his mom left, Bear
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  had already begun, had already found himself an extended family in the forum of
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  of his girlfriend Anna, as well as his best friend Creed and creates older
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  brother Otter, who would who would eventually become Bear's love interests. And then
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  of course Creed and Otter's family had came into got involved in the whole thing
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  when he told when he told everybody what had happened, everyone immediately came to
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  his aid. They were there for him. They supported him. Bear had
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  his own bank account, something that his mom did not have. Like his
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  mom never had a proper bank account. She was always dealing in cash.
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  And when Bear opened the opened his own bank account when he started working,
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  he made the mistake of giving his mom access to the bank account and when
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  she dipped, she ended up stealing all of his money. Oh shit,
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  yep, she stole his money. He had like about three thousand dollars saved
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  up for college and she took it. And in her letter, like she
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  doesn't she doesn't tell him she took all the money. She just tells them.
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  She just told him, I left you a couple hundred bucks. That
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  should be enough to get you, like keep you guys on your feet while
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  you you know, you know, while you work and get ready to get
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  everything ready. Yeah, And like he checked his bank account and was like,
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  yeah, oh, that's my money's gone. That's gone. Damn and
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  his uh so, Creed and Oliver's parents end up giving a Bear all that
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  money back. They give him a check for three grand. He didn't want
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  to take it, but they basically they basically pulled rank on him. Is
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  like, Bear, if you don't take this money, we're going to force
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  you to take it. You're not You're not getting out of this Bear,
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  You're taking the money you like it or not. And they really came to
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  they really pulled through. They helped him with taking care of the kid.
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  Was only six years old at the time. Bear was about to turn eighteen,
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  and he was just a couple of weeks away from graduating high school,
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  which is like everything that, like, all of this just came dropping down
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  on him like one after one, thing after another. So both him and
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  Tyson ended up developing some serious anxiety and abandonment and trust issues as well.
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  So and it was more it affected Tye the kid a lot more than it
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  did Bear, since Barry was older. This was something that like, while
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  he was pissed at his mom for doing this to them, it was something
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  in a way. It was something that he was like, well, I
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  can't say I'm surprised, but fucked that bitch. But it was a lot
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  harder. It was a lot harder for the kid to adjust to because since
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  he was so young, having his mom just leave like that had a lot
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  had a very lasting impact on him. But for a while, there.
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  The two of them were able to pull through and really make things work because
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  they had the support of their new family. But not long after Bear graduated
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  from high school, he was he got very depressed because he felt he felt
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  the weight of everything coming down on him. All right, He's now working
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  full time at the grocery store. He used to work part time, Matt.
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  He now has to He now has to worry about making sure he gets
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  rent and all the bills taken care of. Anytime time needs to go to
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  the doctor, he has to make sure he has the money for that.
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  And it just was really coming down on him. And he got one summer
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  night, he got drunk and he realized like, ah, this is I'm
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  in a bad place right now and don't want to be alone. And he
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  always knew that he can rely on his family, his new family, especially
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  his best friend, his girlfriend, and his best friend in Otter h For
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  some reason that night, he Otter and Creed were at some sort of family
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  dinner and his girlfriend was at work, but he ended up calling Otter out
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  of the blue and told Otter what was going on, and Otter immediately dropped
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  everything, just dipped from the family dinner and came over to Bear's house.
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  He spent time with him and just made sure that Bear was not, you
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  know, doing anything stupid, made sure and made sure Bear was aware that
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  he's not alone. The thing is, Bear is a total lightweight when it
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  comes to his alcohol, Like he could drink one glass of wine and he's
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  out, damn. And he drank He drank a lot of beer. So
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  he was definitely at that point where he was stupid drunk where he does not
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  have any control of his actions. And while they were talking, Bear and
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  It's Side of the Blue just ends up kissing Otter, like just kisses Otter.
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  And the thing is, it wasn't one of those kisses. Like he
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  kissed and Otter was like, whoa bro Otter actually kissed him back? Oh
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  shit, man. Yeah. So Bear pulled back and he realized what he
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  did and he was like, I'm so sorry, and he was so embarrassed.
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  He wounded up going He ended up going to his room. Otter talked
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  him down, made sure he knew bar knew that it was okay. Was
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  in his fault. He's going through some hard times and things like that.
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  Now let me tell you something. I am a stand for their relationship.
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  I love two of them. Otter is a really wonderful person, and he
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  does become a very a very loving and supportive partner for Bear and for the
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  kid, and like I said, and like a father to the kid.
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  But the thing, the next decision he makes after this event kind of like
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  puts him on everybody's shit list for a few years. Because the thing about
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  Otter is that he is actually gay. He came out when he was still
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  a teenage when he came out right around the time he started college. Because
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  remember he's about nine years older than Bear, so he was already by this
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  point, he had already graduated college and he's working as a professional photographer for
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  a local for a local photography photography studio. He had at this point received
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  a job offer for a from a studio in California, and he wasn't planning
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  initially, he wasn't an planning on taking the job because he wanted to stay
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  and help Bear and be there for the kid. But after he kissed Bear,
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  he felt really ashamed of himself because he didn't think Bear was gay.
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  And when they kissed, he actually did reciprocate the kiss. It was something
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  that he himself had always wanted to do because he started having developing feelings for
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  Bear and nothing is that because of their age gap, and also because of
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  the difference, because of the circumstances surrounding Bear, he did not want to
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  do anything. He wasn't going to do anything to put Bear in an odd
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  position or to make Bear feel uncomfortable. He was just more content to just
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  be there for him. And when he kissed, when Bear kissed him and
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  he kissed him back, he felt like he was projecting his feelings and his
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  attraction onto Bear and making and he felt like he was God. I almost
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  said grooming, not grooming, but like he he felt like he was influencing
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  Bear in a negative way and he didn't want He didn't want that. So
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  out of the blue, Otter took the job in California and just left.
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  He And what made it worse was that he left a note too, and
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  like, yeah, so this happened a few months after Bear's mother left.
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  So it was just like I was like, oh, honey, no,
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  oh god, you couldn't you know, Oh oh no, you fuck you
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  done? You've done? Goops, man, that's no done, fucked up?
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  Oh god? Yeah, yes, So he ends up leaving and Bear
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  it. It was a lot for Bear. This was a lot worse than
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  his mom leaving because with his mom he had no real high expectations for her.
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  Yeah, it sucked, especially because she basically burned him on her way
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  out by stealing his money and leaving him with, you know, leaving him
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  in charge of a six year old. But it was something like, you
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  know what, fucked this bitch? We never needed her, right, So
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  he was able to get past that. Butter Honor had always been this like
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  this stable presence in his life, just like his best friend Creed, just
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  like his girlfriend Anna. Everything about them they were they were people that he
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  really needed. And you know, the fact that bit that that Otter would
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  just leave like that, it was just something that really fucked with Bear.
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  And for the next three years Bear would end up presenting Otter. He doesn't
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  really speak to Otter. For the next few years, Otter tries to live
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  his life in I Believe. He went to San Diego, the studio in
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  the California Photos Studio. He was doing really well for himself, even tried
• 30:22
  to move on with the relationship. But during that three year period, Bear
• 30:29
  manages to pull his life together a bit by bit, he creates a stable
• 30:33
  routine for him and kid, and while they're not exactly better than they were
• 30:38
  without their mom, they're at least like when their mom was still there,
• 30:41
  they're at least surviving. And Bear has a system where it all like everything
• 30:52
  is working, you know, everything is working for him and life for him
• 31:03
  at least, he tried to kid himself was good. Yeah. And then
• 31:11
  in that three year time span, during at Christmas party, Otter did come
• 31:17
  back to visit the family. They were all at his family's house and Bear
• 31:21
  saw him briefly and Otter hugged him and tried to like talk to him,
• 31:26
  but Bear was still very angry with Otter for leaving and didn't really talk to
• 31:30
  him and did his best to avoid Otter. And Otter was hurt by this,
• 31:36
  but he understood because he's like, yeah, fucked up, Like yeah,
• 31:37
  he knows, he knows what he did, and he tries. He
• 31:42
  leaves another note for Bear, telling him, like telling him he's like trying
• 31:47
  to apologize, and also tells him if you need to ever need anything,
• 31:49
  I'm always here for you, all right. I want to try to make
• 31:53
  this right. And now we're getting close to where we come to present day.
• 32:02
  It's been three years since Otters initially left. Bear has had to deal
• 32:07
  with other things, had had to deal with other issues concerning Otters app since
• 32:14
  and that is the kid. The kid is a very brilliant young man.
• 32:20
  Let me tell you something. At nine years old. Bear often refers to
• 32:23
  him as the eco terrorist in training because he has, for one thing,
• 32:29
  at nine years old, he's very smart. Kid is a vegetarian, and
• 32:37
  he's a staunch animal rights activist. And the timeframe that this book was written,
• 32:42
  it was in like I think it takes place sometime in the early two
• 32:46
  thousands, so this was before that whole controversy with Peta yeah came out.
• 32:54
  So like so he was a big supporter of No, he was just he
• 33:01
  was a big supporter of animal rights movements and that mainly sorry, I'm looking
• 33:15
  at my notes, like check, I'm checking something real quick. But yeah,
• 33:25
  so Tie supports Peter and he even uh follows like protests and it's and
• 33:34
  at one point he begins organizing protests and participating, like he'll actually make Bear
• 33:39
  go with him to protest for like I don't know, opening of a new
• 33:44
  butcher shop or like animal processing plants things like that, and go protests.
• 33:50
  You know, he's really into that, and I'm like, wow, eco
• 33:52
  terrorists and training like Bear often refers to Kid as like like he always says
• 33:59
  this, this kid is going to take over the world by the time he's
• 34:00
  sixteen, like he's an evil genius. But Kid is really like I said,
• 34:07
  he's really smart, but he's also very sweet. But with both his
• 34:10
  mom leaving and also Otter leaving, Kid develops extreme trust issues. He develops
• 34:20
  anxiety as well as panic disorders. One of the things that happens to Kid
• 34:25
  is so Kid had developed a coping mechanism for his anxiety and his panic disorders.
• 34:37
  Whenever Kid begins to become overstimulated and overwhelmed by anything by things going on
• 34:44
  around him. When he was a little kid, he learned that whenever there's
• 34:50
  an earthquake, you're supposed to crawl into a bathtub because she'll be safe.
• 34:57
  Because I guess like bathtubs are like reinforced building collapses, Like and you're in
• 35:00
  the bathtub, you'll be safe. So for him, his panic attacks or
• 35:06
  feels like an earthquake, like everything is becoming like everything is shaking he's losing
• 35:10
  his sense of stability, and so he what he'll do is climb into a
• 35:15
  bathtub and just ride it out. And Bart like see, Kyson had been
• 35:25
  doing that since he was a very since he was a young kid, even
• 35:29
  when their mom was still there, but it wasn't as frequent, but when
• 35:32
  Otter left, they became more frequent. He became the kid didn't really act
• 35:38
  out so much, but he often butted heads with his teachers because his teacher,
• 35:43
  because he often would prove that he is much smarter. He would prove
• 35:49
  that he is much smarter than his teachers. So this typical young genius type
• 35:54
  of kid, and uh, Bear begins. Bear starts to resent for that
• 36:04
  because like since because otters absence caused that kind of like not so much as
• 36:13
  caused it, but made it worse. But the kid never faulted Otter for
• 36:17
  that. I mean, he was sad that Otter left, but he never
• 36:21
  really hated him or resented him. So when we get back to modern day,
• 36:24
  to the modern day Bear and the kid where they had gone to the
• 36:31
  airport to pick up Creed. Creed had decided to attend the university and at
• 36:37
  the University of Phoenix in Arizona. So while Bear's back home in Seafair,
• 36:45
  his many of his friends have left town and the only person, really,
• 36:50
  the only person who he still sees regularly is his girlfriend Anna. Their relationship
• 36:55
  is somewhat contentious because they're typical on again, off again type relationship, like
• 37:02
  they'll break up during a fight and then like make up and get back together
• 37:06
  not even a day later. But Anna has been very supportive. She she
• 37:12
  often watches kid whenever Bear needs some time to himself or need or has to
• 37:15
  work late. He also relies on his next door neighbor, missus Paquin.
• 37:23
  And that's her name, right, Oh Jesus Christ, I literally just read
• 37:31
  this book, like these books, like about a little over a month ago.
• 37:36
  Yeah, and uh yeah, but like I'm terrible with names. Because
• 37:45
  their their neighbor, she becomes sort of like a grandmotherly figure because she's an
• 37:49
  elderly lady, and uh, she often takes care She often takes care of
• 38:02
  the kid whenever otters, whenever Bear is working late, all that kind of
• 38:07
  stuff. So but now, like more to the story, Creed had just
• 38:13
  come to create came back to town for his summer vacation for a summer break,
• 38:19
  and when they were when Bear picked him up and was taking him to
• 38:22
  his parents' house, they noticed that there was a jeep in the driveway.
• 38:27
  Creed didn't recognize the jeep at first, so he goes so thinking that it's
• 38:30
  an intruder. He goes inside the house while Bear and kid wait outside,
• 38:34
  but Creed comes back out a few minutes later and he's like, guess who
• 38:37
  it is. It's Otter. So Otter had decided to come back to Seafair
• 38:43
  for an extended hiatus from his job in California. Bear is not too pleased
• 38:52
  about this. The kid is overjoyed to see Otter again. And the thing
• 39:00
  is the kid be plotting on them. The kid's plotting He's let me tell
• 39:04
  you that right now. He is always plotting O the plan. Yeah.
• 39:09
  I think on some level, the kid knew that Otter felt something a lot
• 39:16
  deeper for I'm sorry, Like, well, yeah, Otter and Bear felt
• 39:21
  something more for each other, so he was always so Like throughout the book,
• 39:25
  he often does things to get the two of them together, like spend
• 39:30
  more time to uh with each other, Like he asks Bear, can I
• 39:37
  get can I have some soy ice cream? Because he does, since he's
• 39:42
  vegetarian, doesn't do he doesn't eat regular ice cream. He eats soy ice
• 39:45
  cream, and they didn't have any at the Thompson's house, so Bear agrees
• 39:52
  to go get some from the corners from the grocery store real quick, and
• 39:57
  uh kid tells Otter, why don't you go with him? And Bear's like
• 40:02
  you little ship because he still because Bear at this point still doesn't really want
• 40:07
  anything to do with Otter, but the two of them go together. The
• 40:12
  Bear doesn't really want it, doesn't really talk to Otter aside from a few
• 40:15
  like you know, just small talk, and on their way back from getting
• 40:20
  the ice cream, like Otter tries to like get Bair to open up and
• 40:29
  talk to him at least try to like reconcile, and at one point bart
• 40:32
  does go off on him and it comes to his the hurt and his anger
• 40:38
  towards Otter comes out, and really it was just more of like the fact
• 40:43
  that he was he was more upset that Otter left, and Otter promised him,
• 40:49
  Look, I'm here to stay. I'm not gonna leave again. Okay,
• 40:51
  I'm gonna be here. I'll be here for the two of you.
• 40:54
  And while this doesn't immediately solve their problem, like Bear still has lot of
• 41:00
  anger towards Otter, it does begin to He does begin to loosen up,
• 41:07
  and he begins to He starts to work towards forgiving Otter, so the guys,
• 41:22
  so pretty much everything starts to go back to normal for everybody, or
• 41:24
  at least some way to the normalcy that from before Otter left. Otter's presence
• 41:31
  actually has a very positive impact on the kid. His anxiety and panic attacks
• 41:38
  begin become less frequent. He's more open and talkative, and Bear sees this
• 41:44
  so like he's that also helps him to come to forgive Otter the thing.
• 41:51
  One another thing that Bear is beginning to deal with emotionally is guilt because he
• 41:58
  never told his girlfriend or anyone really that he kissed Otter when he was drunk
• 42:04
  those years, all those years ago, And that's one thing that's been weighing
• 42:07
  on his mind for a while, and now that Otter is back, he's
• 42:10
  starting to deal with these feelings, his feelings concerning Otter, because we begin
• 42:17
  to learn from various flashbacks and conversations that Bear has with his friends and his
• 42:24
  family that his feelings his relationship with Otter was a lot deeper than he himself
• 42:31
  even realized. He always seemed he always looked up to Otter as like an
• 42:37
  as his own big brother as well, but his feelings for Otter were also
• 42:40
  something more confusing that he didn't really understand. Like he spent countless hours spending
• 42:47
  like spending time with Creed at his family's house, and sometimes Preed would like
• 42:53
  fall asleep early and Bear would still be awake and it would just be him
• 42:57
  and Otter and they'll be spending time together. And he always felt like this
• 43:00
  like something different when it came to Otter, and his relationship with Otter had
• 43:06
  always been something that kind of rubbed his girlfriend the wrong way, like she
• 43:13
  supported she She was never that type that says, oh, I don't like
• 43:15
  your friends, don't hang out with them, because well, his friends were
• 43:19
  her friends too, So it was just one of those things that like,
• 43:22
  can't she can't really get she doesn't. She never really faulted him for.
• 43:27
  But eventually Anna begins to notice that his behavior and his attitude, especially concerning
• 43:34
  honor, and she tries to talk to him or at least get him to
• 43:38
  open up about it more. And she even calls him out, saying that
• 43:42
  you always seem to have whenever it comes to Otter, there's always something different,
• 43:45
  Like you don't talk to anyone else, you don't talk about anyone else
• 43:49
  that way. Hell, you don't talk about me that way. But when
• 43:52
  it's Otter, you just seem to it's always some it's always different. I
• 43:55
  mean, aside from how you felt about him leaving, even before then,
• 43:59
  you always it always seemed like there was something more between the two of you,
• 44:02
  guys. And eventually, Bear finally, like eventually, he finally tells
• 44:08
  her what he's been feeling, tells her about his feelings towards what happened with
• 44:16
  Otter and how he doesn't really understand it either, because by this point he
• 44:22
  and Otter had had several close encounters of the homosexual variety. And while he
• 44:30
  wasn't okay, well, it's cheating when you get down to it. But
• 44:37
  the thing is is that it wasn't really so much as like he act.
• 44:42
  Bear didn't really act on his feelings towards Otter, but his feelings were there
• 44:46
  and they were beginning to He's beginning to like understand how he feels about Otter,
• 44:52
  and he doesn't know what he's going to do about it. But when
• 44:57
  confronted with those feelings, and finally he was forced to come out to Anna,
• 45:01
  or rather tell Anna about what happened between him and Otter, the two
• 45:07
  of them do break up. And with this breakup, however, it's it's
• 45:10
  apparent that it's it's final, Like this is it. It's not just a
• 45:15
  minor This wasn't just a minor fight where it was just like, oh,
• 45:20
  we're breaking up, and then they get back together. This is like done
• 45:23
  deal. And there's Bears understandably upset, and he feels ashamed of himself for
• 45:30
  allowing his emotions to get the better of him, but he works through it.
• 45:35
  He and he turns to Otter and they begin to admit their feelings to
• 45:40
  each other, and Bear manages to get a full explanation from Otter why he
• 45:47
  like what really drove him to leave? Like why did he leave? Like
• 45:51
  that he told and Otter was honest. He told Bear that he had had
• 45:55
  feeling much deeper feelings for Bear for a long long time. And the thing
• 46:01
  is their age gap and also the fact that Otter was not entirely convinced that
• 46:07
  was not one hundred percent on Bear. He wasn't sure if Bear would feel
• 46:12
  the same, and when the two of them kissed all those years ago,
• 46:15
  he felt like he was influencing Bear in all the wrong ways. So he
• 46:20
  decided to leave because he didn't want to continue putting his own feelings towards Bear
• 46:25
  on Bear and influencing him into a relationship that he may not even want right
• 46:32
  and it was very His feelings on the matter were very complex. But he
• 46:37
  also tells Bear why he came back after all these years, and that was
• 46:42
  because while Otter he was doing very well for himself in California. He was
• 46:49
  very successful as a photographer. He made stupidly good money, and he even
• 46:54
  started a relationship with another man. Otter felt like there was something missing in
• 46:59
  his life, and it got to the point where, like not okay,
• 47:05
  Otter became a little obsessed with Bear because like it got to the point where
• 47:09
  his mental health began to decline. He felt like he everywhere he turned he
• 47:14
  saw things that reminded him of Bear. He there were times where he saw
• 47:17
  people that he thought that he seriously thought was actually Bear when really it wasn't.
• 47:22
  And like it got to the point where it was affecting his current relationship,
• 47:30
  his other relationship with a guy named Jonah, and he started to realize
• 47:35
  though, that the man he was with was not really in for it for
• 47:38
  like an actual like, oh, like we actually love love each other.
• 47:44
  His boyfriend seemed was definitely that kind of was definitely that kind of person who
• 47:50
  dates for status. Mm. So like since Bear, I'm sorry, since
• 47:55
  Otter was doing very well for him so and was all and you know,
• 48:01
  very a very attractive young man, not to say the least, his partner
• 48:07
  was definitely more into it, was more in for the relationship for the wrong
• 48:12
  reasons, and that didn't sit right with That also didn't really sit right with
• 48:16
  Otter. So Otter decided to not only end his pre his relationship with that
• 48:22
  guy, but he decided to come back to see Fair and make things right
• 48:25
  with Bear, even if Bear didn't want even if Bear you know, doesn't
• 48:30
  feel the same way for Otter, Otter just wants to make sure that Bears
• 48:34
  okay and that they can like you know, be friends at the very least
• 48:39
  have a like mend the relationship. And it's around it's just this point that
• 48:46
  Bear comes to terms of the fact that he's also he also does feel the
• 48:52
  same way for Otter, but he doesn't really consider himself gay because he's never
• 48:58
  felt that way for other guys, like he never even looked at other guys
• 49:01
  that way. But intensively the two of them begin their relationship. They actually
• 49:09
  start a relationship together and they keep it on the download. They don't tell
• 49:15
  their friends about it, like Bearfield is guilty about this for not telling at
• 49:22
  least preed about it because he's because he's dating his best friend's older brother.
• 49:28
  And he doesn't tell Anna about this one because they're not they're not speaking.
• 49:34
  They they don't really speak to each other for a short period of time because
• 49:37
  of the breakup. I mean Anna promises that uh, I mean Anna's promises
• 49:46
  that she's not gonna just abandon him and kid, you know, she just
• 49:52
  wants to She just needs ah some time to herself. But still he doesn't
• 50:01
  tell her about their relationship together and for a while they're very happy with each
• 50:07
  other Otter. Since now Otter is more present in his life, the kids
• 50:15
  mental health significantly improves, and for the first time in a long time,
• 50:21
  Bear feels like he's actually living. He's not surviving, he's living, he
• 50:24
  feels, he feels more alive instead of it in just this rut that he's
• 50:30
  been in for the past three years since his mom left. Now, this
• 50:37
  is where things begin to become very complicated. Oh, because Mamma comes home,
• 50:49
  doesn't she he comes home? Oh God, And it's not for she
• 50:54
  doesn't come home permanently. Thank God, she's not. It wasn't that situation
• 50:59
  where she's like, hey, I'm back, thanks for taking care of everything's
• 51:01
  I'm taking. I'm coming back for good. And it wasn't even like she
• 51:07
  wasn't even she didn't even come back, like, oh, can I get
• 51:08
  like to like take advantage of Bear like and say, hey, can you
• 51:13
  like help mama out and like loan me some money, I'll pay you back
• 51:15
  like no after like Bear and Bear and Otter they were having a nice little
• 51:23
  date and spending time with each other that they had left. Hang on,
• 51:31
  I gotta look for her name. They have this next door neighbor and see
• 51:52
  missus back one. That's her name. I fucking knew it anyway, So
• 51:58
  okay, So yes, So their mother comes back and it's completely out of
• 52:07
  the blue. They had no warning. Otter and Bear had they were spending
• 52:13
  some time together and they left kid with the with their neighbor, missus Paquin.
• 52:17
  She'd, like, like I said before, she had become this sort
• 52:21
  of grandmotherly type figure in their life. You know, she's very supportive of
• 52:23
  them. She makes sure that they're okay. Like first time she met them
• 52:28
  and she got to know their mom, she kind of became felt like she
• 52:30
  she immediately adopted them as as her own because her she her family have all
• 52:42
  passed away. She had a daughter who died in a car accident, and
• 52:45
  her husband passed away a few years before. So so at this point she
• 52:51
  was just living just the rest of her life and like she was just going
• 52:53
  to live the rest of her life out. You know, she's on social
• 52:57
  Security and all that and make the best of it. And you know,
• 53:02
  she always made sure that Bear knew that, like whenever he needed it,
• 53:07
  she would she would be there to watch the kid and he can go live
• 53:12
  his life when he wanted to, or if he had to take care of
• 53:14
  stuff. She was always there and she became like this second motherly figure for
• 53:17
  them. And so while they were gone, so they have their little date
• 53:25
  night. They come back to the part to Bear's apartment. When they go
• 53:30
  upstairs, the kid immediately runs out to them and he's visibly shaken. He's
• 53:39
  he clings to Bear and he seems to be afraid, and when Bear ask
• 53:45
  him what's going on, he just says she's here. And Bear's like,
• 53:49
  oh shit, Otter is there, and he takes control, like he doesn't
• 53:54
  know what's going on. He's not sure who kid is talking about, but
• 53:58
  he's like he takes control his like it's okay, we'll figure it out.
• 54:00
  Let's see what it is. So they go inside and they find missus Paquin
• 54:06
  sitting in the living room of Bear's apartment, and sitting across from her is
• 54:12
  Bear and Tyson's mom, Julie McKenna, and pon seeing Julie, Bear immediately
• 54:22
  like he's he starts freaking out a bit, like he's staring at her and
• 54:24
  he has like all these you know, all these emotions going through him,
• 54:29
  anger, fear, like all these things like hurt, resentment, all of
• 54:36
  this, and missus Paquin she quietly excuses herself from the apartment. She tells
• 54:44
  She tells Bear that if he needs anything, she's next door, and she
• 54:47
  leaves. Julie tries to initiate some small talk with him with them, but
• 54:54
  Bear tell like it, excuses himself from the room and take Otter and the
• 55:01
  kid. He takes the two of them into the other bedroom. They talk
• 55:08
  for a bit and Otters like listen. Like Otter immediately becomes a supportive boyfriend,
• 55:15
  is like, listen whatever she wants, you know, doesn't matter what
• 55:19
  she wants to. Just know, we're in this together, all right.
• 55:23
  You don't have to worry about a single thing. And they go out and
• 55:30
  they confront Julie. She tries to make things. She tries to like talk
• 55:37
  to them, try to get them to open up, but Bear's not having
• 55:39
  it. He's trying his damnedest to like get her to like just spill the
• 55:44
  beans, like why are you really here. He's not trusting her at all,
• 55:46
  and she's being very dodgy and not really like telling them the reason why
• 55:53
  they're there now. He and Otter are being careful not to really outwardly show
• 55:59
  that the two of them are together as a couple, because they're still keeping
• 56:02
  things on the down low. But at one point in the conversation they kind
• 56:07
  of slip up a bit. They share a bit of you know, like
• 56:09
  couples share those meaningful glances with each other, you know, it's almost like
• 56:14
  they can yep, well what they do this in front of her, and
• 56:21
  she gets this look on her face like she just won the lottery and uh.
• 56:28
  She immediately she starts pirating Bear. And she doesn't say anything outwardly home
• 56:35
  outwardly homophobic, but she starts, but she starts making it clear that her
• 56:39
  intentions were not good. And Bear's realizing that, okay, things are about
• 56:44
  to get very ugly between him and his mom. He tells Otter to take
• 56:47
  uh. He tells Otter to take kid out of the apartment, like just
• 56:57
  take him out and it's far away from here as possible and let him handle
• 57:00
  and let Bear handle his mom. When they do, when they leave,
• 57:05
  Bear immediately confronts his mom about that, like, so, what's what's the
• 57:07
  deal? So what you don't like that I'm in a relationship with a man
• 57:10
  or what? And his mom begins spewing like a lot of religious rhetoric,
• 57:15
  you know, like I don't like like I don't want my son being raised
• 57:21
  by gaze things like that. And it's just like when I'm when I'm when
• 57:25
  i'm reading, when I was reading this scene. Let me tell you something,
• 57:28
  my blood pressure was going up. I was mad. I was like,
• 57:30
  oh this bitch right here, Oh oh this bitch uh uh I would
• 57:37
  read like a little thing. She says, put the I put my book
• 57:38
  down. I'm like, oh, oh my god, I just want to
• 57:42
  fuck her up. Fuck this bitch. Like she doesn't say anything like really
• 57:45
  bad, like like like very outwardly homophobic, but she's making her position clear
• 57:51
  that she doesn't approve and she doesn't want uh Otter around the kid. And
• 57:55
  Bear's like, who do you, like, where do you get off come
• 58:00
  into this house after you just fucking abandon us and telling me how I can't
• 58:05
  how I can or cannot raise the kid all right, because you clearly didn't
• 58:07
  want to do that. So I'm gonna raise a kid exactly how I want
• 58:10
  to. But then uh Julie hits him with this, I'm taking the kid
• 58:17
  back if you continue that, if you continue with your relationship with Otter,
• 58:23
  I'm taking the kid. And this scares Bear because that's the last thing he
• 58:30
  wants to happen, and he's like, what are you so okay? What
• 58:37
  are you gonna okay? So what you're not gonna take him. She's like,
• 58:42
  you're right, I'm you're right. I'm not gonna take him, but
• 58:45
  I will if you don't end your relationship with Otter. He's like, that's
• 58:49
  not gonna happen. She's like, okay, that's fine, I'll take you
• 58:51
  to court and get custody off him back. And she even like makes these
• 58:54
  threats like, hey, all right, even if you use my alcoholism against
• 58:59
  me, all right, who do you think the court's gonna believe? And
• 59:02
  uh, a kid barely, a man barely in his twenties, who had
• 59:10
  who had some barely, who had barely legal a power of attorney over over
• 59:20
  a minor or, a mother who left, who could who left and easy
• 59:23
  could say that she left for her health and went in to get seek treatment
• 59:29
  for her her addiction. So she was very like she was really manipulat,
• 59:36
  like being very manipulative in this situation. And she makes it clear to Bear
• 59:40
  that if he doesn't break up with Hotter, she's going to take she's gonna
• 59:44
  sue for custody and she's gonna get and she's gonna take the kid back.
• 59:47
  Now, in a real life standpoint, no, I don't think I don't
• 59:52
  think she would have much of a kids, because I'm sure there are plenty
• 59:55
  of people that could set that could stay with first hand experience about her alcoholism,
• 1:00:02
  the fact that she left, especially if he still has the letter that
• 1:00:07
  he as she left and left the paperwork, regardless if it was actually illegal
• 1:00:12
  or not, that he she left the paperwork for him to get the full
• 1:00:15
  cussy or power of attorney or whatever, so he honestly he would have it
• 1:00:20
  in the bag. But when you're told that and he in the moment,
• 1:00:23
  it sounds scary. But in real life standpoints, I don't think she would
• 1:00:27
  have much of a case. Yeah, no, I'm not gonna So they
• 1:00:36
  do address that specific situation in the next book, but right now, I
• 1:00:44
  won't spoil that for you guys. But for now, Bear acquiesces, which
• 1:00:50
  I'm like, oh, you stupid bitch, Like, oh you dumb bitch.
• 1:00:53
  But whatever, he was scared. I mean, anybody would be terrified
• 1:00:59
  in that situation. And if you were suddenly told that, you would that
• 1:01:01
  your kid is gonna get taken from you, So that would terrify anybody.
• 1:01:07
  He breaks up with Otter doesn't really give Otter a real explanation. Which I
• 1:01:12
  think he should have just told Otter outright, like, dude, my mom's
• 1:01:15
  threatening to take the kid away if I don't break up with you. Because
• 1:01:19
  the thing is that Otter, aside from his own his parents, who are
• 1:01:23
  very well off on their own, Otter was very successful in his in his
• 1:01:29
  job, and he has a lot of money, and he would have gotten
• 1:01:31
  a very good attorney. He would have gotten a very good attorney to help
• 1:01:37
  Bear en sure that Bear gets custody, like full on legal custody of Tyson.
• 1:01:44
  But Bear was scared. He breaks He breaks it off with Otter,
• 1:01:47
  and Otter kind of takes a back seat in the he stops seeing Otter in
• 1:01:52
  general. And this also negatively negatively impacts the kid's mental health because he doesn't
• 1:02:00
  really explain why to the kid. I think he does, actually, I
• 1:02:06
  think he does tell the kid, like, listen, she's not gonna she's
• 1:02:09
  gonna try to take you away if he sticks around. And they have no
• 1:02:15
  real choice about to keep their distance from Otter at this point. And the
• 1:02:20
  thing is his friends they immediately notice everything that's going on, like how both
• 1:02:25
  Otter and Bear seemed to be at odds again, and they try to like
• 1:02:30
  help cheer them up and try to reconcile things, but Bear refuses because he
• 1:02:34
  just doesn't want to risk his mom getting involved again because after he agrees and
• 1:02:38
  she she after he agreed to herturns, she left. She didn't stick around,
• 1:02:43
  she just left. And what really scared the shit out of Bear was
• 1:02:46
  that how did he know? How did she know? How did she know
• 1:02:51
  about Otters and Bear's relationship? They weren't. Yeah, they spent time together
• 1:02:55
  and they went on little dates, but they weren't really like going out in
• 1:02:59
  public and acting like a couple. Yeah, So it just seems very off
• 1:03:05
  to him that she would know about this. That means there's a rat somewhere
• 1:03:09
  there. Yeah. That also doesn't get revealed like until the next book.
• 1:03:15
  So sorry, guys, I'm not gonna spoil that for you right now.
• 1:03:19
  But eventually Bear manages to reconcile with Anna. They don't get back together in
• 1:03:25
  a relationship, but they reconcile and they become good. They become friends again,
• 1:03:30
  on speaking terms again. But his best friend Creed does get like,
• 1:03:37
  does know something is off about Bear and it has to do with Otter,
• 1:03:39
  And he also notices how much Otter how depressed Otter has become. But at
• 1:03:45
  some point I think, like I think Creed was also trying to plot because
• 1:03:52
  he knew like something was going on between the two of them, and he
• 1:03:58
  wanted, like he knew that he had to get them to like reconcile some
• 1:04:01
  way, So he caught wind that Otter was planning on going back to California.
• 1:04:10
  M H. Now, now the real reason why Otter was going back
• 1:04:14
  to California was because he was going to make his move back to Seafair permanent,
• 1:04:17
  because it was just the time that he was there and Seafair was more
• 1:04:24
  of an extended hiatus from his job and just to get away from things.
• 1:04:28
  But now he wants to completely like leave California and come back to Seafair permanently.
• 1:04:32
  And he later reveals to Bear that he was planning on fighting for Bear,
• 1:04:36
  like he was gonna make he was gonna make things right with Bear again.
• 1:04:40
  It doesn't matter what it took, he was going to fight for Bear.
• 1:04:43
  And I also like, oh h this man. Uh, Like Baar
• 1:04:50
  didn't give him an explanation for breaking up with him, but Otter was like,
• 1:04:55
  that's not gonna stop me. I'm gonna I'm gonna fight for you.
• 1:05:00
  It's you, and I'm like, oh, oh, oh my god,
• 1:05:06
  I can't my heart. But the thing is is that I think Creed knew
• 1:05:13
  this, but he was like, all right, I need to like kick
• 1:05:15
  Bear in the ass. So he calls it Bear because Creed was about the
• 1:05:19
  summer was ending, Creed was about to go back to Arizona to finish it
• 1:05:24
  started his next semester at school, and he threw a party at his house
• 1:05:29
  and while Bear was invited, he chose not to go because Creed would because
• 1:05:31
  Otter would be there. But Creed calls up Bear and tells Bear, hey,
• 1:05:36
  listen, man, you got to get here and talk some sentense into
• 1:05:39
  Otter because Otter is planning on leaving. He's going back to California. And
• 1:05:42
  this scares the shit out of Bear because he's like no, like even though
• 1:05:46
  he broke up with Otter, Bear's like, no, I don't want him
• 1:05:49
  to leave. I can't do no. Okay, you know what, fuck
• 1:05:51
  it, I can't do this. I can't. I need him, I
• 1:05:54
  need him like SpongeBob moment right there. I don't. I don't need it.
• 1:06:00
  Definitely donate it. Yeah, he leaves kid in the care of his
• 1:06:09
  neighbor and runs to Creed's. He runs to the Thompson's house, he goes
• 1:06:15
  up, He ignores everybody in the party and goes up to Otter's room to
• 1:06:17
  talk some sense into him. As soon as he goes into Otter's bedroom,
• 1:06:20
  he immediately notices that Otter is not alone. There is uh Otter. There's
• 1:06:28
  another man in Otter's room. They're not doing anything, if anything Otter,
• 1:06:31
  like, when you like read the scene, you could tell Otter is very
• 1:06:34
  stand offish with the guy in the room. But Bear is very neurotic and
• 1:06:40
  his mind tends to take off when he's panicking. So he saw this man
• 1:06:45
  and he immediately knew who he was because the man that was in Otter's room
• 1:06:48
  was Otter's ex boyfriend, Jonah the drama Yep. And when he sees Jonah,
• 1:06:59
  he Bear jumps to conclusion the way a gazelle leaps over the over a
• 1:07:02
  river, yeah, and immediately turns and just walks out. He's like,
• 1:07:09
  you know, I can't do this, and he goes to find Creed.
• 1:07:13
  And up to this point, Bear had noticed that Creed and his ex girlfriend
• 1:07:17
  Anna were both acting weird like they were both They would both tell him like,
• 1:07:21
  yeah, you know, I gotta go. I'm gonna be meeting up
• 1:07:26
  with some friends. And Bear's like, what friends, I'm I'm your friend?
• 1:07:30
  You have other friends? When did this happen? Right? And it
• 1:07:35
  was both of them were acting dodgy. So when Bear walks out of Otter's
• 1:07:41
  room, Otter fallows him out, trying to explain like, hey, well
• 1:07:43
  hold up, it's not what you think. It's not what you think.
• 1:07:45
  Bear walks into Creed's bedroom and there he finds his best friend and his ex
• 1:07:49
  girlfriend making out. Damn treachery everywhere. Well, to be fair, the
• 1:07:58
  treachery started with Bear when he started seeing Otter behind both of their backs.
• 1:08:02
  So it's kind of like a triangle. Well it's like a cycle really,
• 1:08:06
  yeah, but he has no room to talk, but still seeing the shock
• 1:08:10
  of seeing his best friend and ex girlfriend like in that situation kind of just
• 1:08:15
  made his like just made him shut down. So he turns around and decides
• 1:08:20
  to just leave, just like all right, fuck this, I can't deal
• 1:08:24
  with this. When he turns to leave, like Otter had followed him and
• 1:08:28
  his ex boyfriend Jonah followed him too, and Jonah like has this he has
• 1:08:32
  that kind of personality that's just more very smuged, like like, huh because
• 1:08:38
  Jonah knew about Bear. Uh, because Otter had told Jonah about Bear before,
• 1:08:45
  not maybe not the whole situation, but Jonah was able to put two
• 1:08:47
  and two together. And the reason why Jonah showed up was because he was
• 1:08:54
  trying to get get Otter to get back together with him. And when he
• 1:09:00
  showed up, and when he was in the room, when he showed up,
• 1:09:03
  and when when Bear walked in, Jonah looked at him and he's like,
• 1:09:08
  oh, you must be Bear. Hey, I'm Jonah Otter's boyfriend.
• 1:09:13
  Like uh uh. So when Bear walked out and walked in on his best
• 1:09:19
  his other friends together and he turns to leave, Jonah was there too,
• 1:09:24
  and he had this like really smug look on his face. So as Bear
• 1:09:28
  was walking out of the house, he punches Jonah in the face rightfully deserved.
• 1:09:34
  Uh huh. Oh let me, oh dude, the tea. Oh
• 1:09:40
  but that's not for them, that's not gonna until the next book. Yeah,
• 1:09:43
  we don't, we an't. We won't learn much more about Jonah.
• 1:09:46
  And you know the role that he has that he plays until in the next
• 1:09:51
  book. But either way, Bear leaves. He gets an his car and
• 1:10:00
  he drops and he speeds off. Otter like actually chases him down the street
• 1:10:04
  like like trying to stop him, like wait, no, don't go,
• 1:10:08
  And I'm like, oh he he actually chased him. Oh that's love right
• 1:10:12
  there, like yeah, like yeah, he actually was willing to like like
• 1:10:16
  chase after a car. Oh like, oh, Otter, I stand top
• 1:10:27
  top chair man. Yeah. Anyway, so Bear doesn't go back to his
• 1:10:33
  house, doesn't go back to his apartment. He he just really wanted to
• 1:10:38
  be alone after all the shocking revelations he received, and he goes to this
• 1:10:44
  uh so, Seafair is a coastal town, so he drives to this stretch
• 1:10:48
  of beach. It's kind of this part of the beach has been is very
• 1:10:51
  deserted. There's not not many people go through there, and him and his
• 1:10:56
  family often refer to that stretch of his beat of that each has their beach
• 1:11:00
  because like really they're the ones that always go to that part of the of
• 1:11:04
  the coast. So he goes there and he just spends the rest of the
• 1:11:08
  night there just looking out in the sea, being very angsty. And shit.
• 1:11:12
  Come the next morning, like he expected his friends would eventually find him
• 1:11:16
  there, and they do, but it turns out but the person who finds
• 1:11:21
  him at the beach happens to be his little brother, Tyson, and Tyson
• 1:11:28
  whoises Tyson. He's he asks him what are you doing here? And he's
• 1:11:30
  like and Tyson tells him, well, I figured you'd be here, not
• 1:11:34
  about it, Come and check up on you. I heard what happened.
• 1:11:43
  I happened. Well everybody, well, his friends were freaking out, so
• 1:11:46
  they went to his apartment to see if if Bear was there, and he
• 1:11:51
  wasn't, and they told Bear. They told the kid like the whole thing
• 1:11:56
  that went down, and the kid was like, ah, Bear, that
• 1:11:58
  idiot. So he ends up tellinging Otter and Creed and and everything that happens
• 1:12:04
  with with their mom and what had actually what their mom had actually done like
• 1:12:11
  threatened to do. And Bear checked his phone. Later ends up checking his
• 1:12:16
  phone and sees all the messages from his friends and he has one message from
• 1:12:20
  uh Otter and Otters like like U, and Bear says, kid told me
• 1:12:30
  everything. I can't believe he didn't tell me. Come on, please,
• 1:12:31
  let's just talk about this like like, and it's not what you think.
• 1:12:34
  Jonah's not here for that, like, I'm not back together with Jonah.
• 1:12:39
  That was I don't know why he was here in the first place. Kid
• 1:12:44
  manages to talk Bear like. He manages to talk get some sense into Bear,
• 1:12:48
  and Bear agrees to come back home. They go back to He drives
• 1:12:56
  them both back to the apartment where they find free Anna and Missus pac Win
• 1:13:00
  waiting for them. Otter had gone back to the house because he wanted he
• 1:13:04
  had to make sure that Jonah, the whole situation with Jonah was taken care
• 1:13:10
  of, and made sure that Jonah was sent well on his unhappy, unmarried
• 1:13:14
  way. And when he was there, he explains he comes, he confesses
• 1:13:20
  everything to everybody. He tells them that he and Otter had been seeing each
• 1:13:27
  other and that he ended up. He ended the relationship because his mom came
• 1:13:33
  back. She somehow found out about their relationship and she threatened to take the
• 1:13:38
  kid away if they didn't do something if they didn't break up, and everyone,
• 1:13:45
  like Creed and Anna were understandably upset, and Bear had his moment of
• 1:13:53
  getting mad at them too because they kept their relationship from him. But they
• 1:13:57
  Eventually they all reckoned. They all talk it out, and they tell Bear,
• 1:14:01
  Okay, now quit being an idiot and go get your man, period.
• 1:14:08
  And yeah, so Bear goes. He he goes, finds Otter,
• 1:14:15
  they talk it out. He explains the whole situation, and and Otter tells
• 1:14:19
  Bear that he was that yes, he was going back, like what I
• 1:14:24
  mentioned before, he was going back to California, but it wasn't to get
• 1:14:28
  back with Jonah, and it wasn't to leave Seafair behind for good. He
• 1:14:31
  was going there to one to completely resign from his job and complete the process
• 1:14:36
  of moving back to Seafair and also make it very clear to Jonah that they're
• 1:14:42
  through. Because the thing about him and Jonah was that before came back to
• 1:14:49
  California, I'm sorry I came back to Seafair, he had found out that
• 1:14:55
  Jonah cheated on it. So they all to have broken up or had broken
• 1:15:01
  up for that, but Jonah wanted to try to get back with and he
• 1:15:08
  came back to he Uh to see Fair to try to with. But Jonah
• 1:15:15
  has that he has that I get whatever the fuck I want, no matter
• 1:15:19
  what kind of attitude, So like if he sees it, he gets it
• 1:15:24
  does it doesn't matter what anybody says. And I mean, it's honestly,
• 1:15:29
  he's just very it's just very obnoxious, like he has very it's a very
• 1:15:34
  obnoxious way of thinking. Uh. But Otter shuts that ship down, says
• 1:15:43
  they're not getting back together, and he tells Bear that I'm staying for good
• 1:15:47
  and if anything, there's something I want to show you. So he they
• 1:15:51
  get into there. So Otter takes Bair to this neighborhood, to this nearby
• 1:15:58
  neighborhood, and he shows this old house. Now, this house, let
• 1:16:03
  me tell you something. This house becomes known as the Green Monstrosity because it
• 1:16:12
  is it is painted a just extremely awful color of green, like it's like
• 1:16:25
  somebody vomited green over house. Like it's just just Bear describes it, describes
• 1:16:32
  it as like as a very disgusting color of green. And he showed Otter
• 1:16:38
  shows him this house, and he tells him I bought a house because I'm
• 1:16:43
  gonna be staying here for good. And Bears all like, well, that's
• 1:16:46
  all well and good, but what does this have to do with me?
• 1:16:48
  And he's like, well, I bought this house for you, and and
• 1:16:57
  Bear has a bit of a mini freak out. He's like, you bought
• 1:16:59
  me a high else and honors like yes, yes, because I'm here for
• 1:17:05
  good for I'm here for us, and I want us to be together and
• 1:17:09
  I want you to know, like this is it. You are my one,
• 1:17:15
  You're my one and only and I want to be with you, and
• 1:17:18
  I see that. I also want to get you out of that apartment because
• 1:17:25
  after everything's that apartment is not good for you. You've been living in that
• 1:17:32
  in that dump for the lot for a long time and it has too many
• 1:17:36
  bad memories with your mom and besides the two you and you and the kid,
• 1:17:43
  you deserve so much better. You deserve a real home, all right.
• 1:17:47
  You deserve to live, not just survive. And yeah, so I
• 1:17:54
  was like, this man bought a house like the four Like that is like
• 1:18:03
  is a way of like proclaim, like a full long rational love. I'm
• 1:18:09
  buying you a house and I want you to move in. I want you
• 1:18:11
  and the kids to move in with me. And it it took some convincing,
• 1:18:17
  but Bear agrees, and especially when he tells, especially when he tells
• 1:18:25
  the kid, the kids are like cool, why do we move in?
• 1:18:30
  So the two of them they do end up moving in together, and this
• 1:18:32
  is where pretty much the book comes to an end. They start they begin
• 1:18:38
  the process of moving out of their apartment, which is it was hard for
• 1:18:42
  them because when Bear and the kid were first on their own after their mom
• 1:18:48
  left, Bear thought about moving into his mom's room, but he decides not
• 1:18:59
  to do that because for starters, well for for the for the main part,
• 1:19:05
  Kid has a very bad panic episode when he when he tries to do
• 1:19:12
  that, and Kid says he would rather Bear stay in in the same room
• 1:19:16
  with him, and I realized, can't. He just can't walk into that
• 1:19:21
  room. There's just too many bad memories of his his mom is just like
• 1:19:27
  ingrained in that room and it just made him uncomfortable. That was really like
• 1:19:30
  a selling point for Bear, like, yeah, get out of like completely
• 1:19:33
  get out of that. Just move on. They like since their mom left,
• 1:19:36
  they hadn't even touched that room, like gone into that bedroom. And
• 1:19:42
  uh, I know, I got I got way ahead of myself because I
• 1:19:50
  forgot about the theme. But you see, Otter admitted that he was in
• 1:19:55
  love with Bear pretty early on, and the thing is, it took it
• 1:19:59
  took a while for Bear to actually say it back. And when he finally
• 1:20:02
  came, when he when he finally came to realize that he felt the same
• 1:20:06
  way like he wanted to, he decided it was time for him to say
• 1:20:11
  it back, like say I love you back right. But it was hilarious
• 1:20:16
  because when he when he told this to the kid, the kid was like,
• 1:20:19
  no, no, no, you can't just go up to him and
• 1:20:20
  tell you, hey, I love you right. No, like this is
• 1:20:23
  a big deal. You gotta actually like you gotta work it, man,
• 1:20:26
  you gotta sell it. So kid ended up orchestrating an entire date for the
• 1:20:31
  two of them for Bear, just for beare just for Bear to tell,
• 1:20:41
  just for Bear to tell Otter that he loves him, And so he had
• 1:20:45
  everything planned out. They bought some stuff to set up, like a date
• 1:20:50
  on the beach and that stretch of beach where Otter that where Bear fled to
• 1:20:57
  after that confrontation. Like so he set up a table, a romantic candle
• 1:21:05
  like dinner. Everything he was all ready to like, even and the kid
• 1:21:11
  wanted him to read a poem to Otter to like to confess his love for
• 1:21:18
  Otter, And well, Bear wasn't for it. He he eventually agreed to
• 1:21:24
  do it just for the kid's sake. And so he gets to the beach,
• 1:21:29
  he waits for Otter to show. He set up, set up the
• 1:21:33
  little table with their food, the candles, everything, and you know,
• 1:21:39
  I was like, well, I was reading the scene like getting set when
• 1:21:41
  he was getting set up, and I was reading the scene, I'm like,
• 1:21:43
  oh, that's so sweet, like that, that's adorable. And he
• 1:21:46
  was very like shy and nervous. But when when Otter shows up, Bear
• 1:21:50
  was so ready. He's like like he was about to start, like with
• 1:21:55
  the whole poem and everything, and like walk Otter to the uh, you
• 1:22:01
  know, to their little candlelight dinner. But when Otter shows up, he
• 1:22:04
  sees Bear dressed up and everything, and he's like, oh, Bear,
• 1:22:09
  this is sweet. By the way, there's a seagull trying to eat our
• 1:22:13
  food. And and like because Otters because Bear's back was turned to the table,
• 1:22:18
  so when he was looking at when he was distracted by Otter, uh,
• 1:22:21
  he didn't see a seagull flew down and was like began eating their food.
• 1:22:29
  And when and when Otter says that, Bear turns around, like what
• 1:22:31
  and sure enough there's a seagull and he freaks out, and he runs up
• 1:22:35
  to and tries to like scare the seagull off, but when the thing is,
• 1:22:39
  like seagull really just fly away when you run at them, they kind
• 1:22:43
  of just pop and uh, they spread their wings. Well this, well,
• 1:22:48
  this fucking bird it did that. It like just kind of hopped away
• 1:22:54
  on the table table and its wings and when it did that, it knocked
• 1:22:57
  over one of the candles and the entire table went up in flames, and
• 1:23:05
  Bear starts freaking out. He's trying to like put out, like scare off
• 1:23:09
  the seagull and put out the flames, and like he does the only thing
• 1:23:12
  he can do. He grabs a tablecloth and he drags it to the ocean
• 1:23:15
  to put it out right. But the thing is is that when that's done,
• 1:23:21
  he turns around looks at Otter and he's like look like like he is
• 1:23:27
  it. It could have been worse. But he doesn't get a chance to
• 1:23:30
  because at that point that's when it starts raining and when I say, it
• 1:23:35
  straight up starts pouring on the two of them. And the thing is the
• 1:23:41
  entire time that this is happening, where Bear is like trying to put out
• 1:23:44
  the like fire, chase off the seagull and everything is losing his shit.
• 1:23:48
  He is laughing his ass off. He sweetest thing he's ever seen, but
• 1:23:54
  also the funniest thing he ever saw. But so like it's at that point
• 1:23:59
  where they're they're standing in the rain and Bear just says yeah, Bear says
• 1:24:08
  I love you, just like just comes out with it, like, Okay,
• 1:24:12
  well, I was trying to do something nice. This is all just
• 1:24:14
  because I wanted to tell you I love you, and I when I told
• 1:24:18
  kid that I was ready to do that, he just he wanted he had
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  to do this, and I wanted to do this something more romantic, and
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  Otter was like, you don't need to do anything romantic for me. I
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  love you too. Like this just so sweet, And you know, after
• 1:24:35
  after that, it was not long after that that the whole mom I'm happening
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  and now we're here. Towards the end of the book, they begin the
• 1:24:45
  process of moving into the ah, begin the process of moving into the new
• 1:24:53
  house, which is now officially dubbed the Green Monstra, and and you know,
• 1:25:00
  life is good for them, and the book ends like kind of does
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  skip too, like a few months later and uh, Otter is talking with
• 1:25:14
  a kid and asking him do you think we'll like it? And Otter and
• 1:25:18
  kid is like, yeah, yeah, he'll love it. And when kid
• 1:25:20
  walks away, Otter looks down at a box in his hand and I think
• 1:25:26
  we all know what that tiny little box is. And that's pretty much where
• 1:25:30
  the story ends. So there's a few, now, you'll have to forgive
• 1:25:38
  me. There's a few. There's some small little details that didn't really go
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  into with the story. But this was Bear Otter and the Kid. It's
• 1:25:47
  a cute story. I liked it. It was very wholesome. There's moment
• 1:25:53
  there's good, happy, feel good moments, and then there's moments that make
• 1:25:57
  you want to cry, and there's just so much growth and like personal development
• 1:26:04
  in this story. Definitely worth the read. This was one of Klune's more
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  popular books and is under his under his belt that he's written. So there
• 1:26:18
  are four books in this series in total. The first one, of course,
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  is Bear Otter and the Kid. The next book is called Who We
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  Are and takes place pretty much where this book left off, and it's going
• 1:26:35
  to be just telling me more about how just more of how Bear and Otter's
• 1:26:42
  relationship grows. Now that they're openly in a relationship. And yeah, there's
• 1:26:49
  there's just so much. There's so much that's gonna happen, and I can't
• 1:26:55
  wait to tell you guys about it. But I can't wait. I can't
• 1:27:00
  wait to hear more about it. This story is good, Yeah, it's
• 1:27:04
  so good. Like I read it and I was like, Okay, this
• 1:27:09
  is definitely more of Like this book is definitely more set in reality than most
• 1:27:15
  books that I'm used to reading, because I read a lot of science fiction,
• 1:27:19
  fantasy and just fiction. Yeah, like I read. I read books
• 1:27:24
  that interest me. I'll put it to you that way, and you know
• 1:27:29
  now, and this is definitely different from what I'm used what I'm used to
• 1:27:31
  reading, and it was worth the read. Like as soon as I finished
• 1:27:35
  the first book, I immediately bought the second book, and then so on
• 1:27:40
  and so forth, Like that's how good these books were. Like as soon
• 1:27:43
  as one book was over, I was like, I gotta read the other
• 1:27:45
  one. I gotta I can't stop. I don't need sleep, I need
• 1:27:47
  answers. And but yes, I read. I read this whole book stories
• 1:27:57
  within a span of like a few weeks because I was just like every every
• 1:28:02
  moment I had these books, and it was it was it let me.
• 1:28:08
  It has been such a long time since I since I found a book made
• 1:28:13
  me want to read it like cover to cover and like like as soon as
• 1:28:17
  I finished one book I was read, I was like immediately reading the next
• 1:28:20
  one. And I think the last series that did that for me was definitely,
• 1:28:27
  uh it was you know, I can't think of it, like,
• 1:28:35
  I think it was either person the Percy Jackson series or they Harry Potter series.
• 1:28:45
  No, you know what, No, I read Percy Jackson was deaf?
• 1:28:47
  Was actually that that book series for me? Yeah, Like and I
• 1:28:53
  read that series for the first time, like over twelve years ago, So
• 1:28:59
  it's it's been a long time since I've found a book series as is that
• 1:29:03
  really like got me like that I thought was so good that I just couldn't
• 1:29:09
  stop reading it. And if you're looking for something different for wholesome and if
• 1:29:15
  you're gay and you want more gay romance in your life, I'd definitely look
• 1:29:18
  up books by TJ. Klune. I've already read the about thirteen of his
• 1:29:28
  books so far, damn. Because aside from the Wolf Song novels and Bear
• 1:29:34
  Ouder and the Kid. There's another series I read by TJ. Klune.
• 1:29:39
  It's more of a silly comedic series, still gay romance, called The Tales
• 1:29:43
  from Varinia. And we'll eventually, I look, we'll get to those eventually.
• 1:29:48
  But we've got three more books and Bear Ouder and the Kid, and
• 1:29:51
  they're all just as good and it's great. And on top of that,
• 1:29:57
  I'm reading that series that you're talking about. Oh yeah, I am reading,
• 1:30:01
  lugging. I was bugging Devin so much about The Tales from Varinia that
• 1:30:08
  I pretty much bullied him into read into reading. I told him, like,
• 1:30:14
  you gotta read it, man, you gotta read it. Lightning struck
• 1:30:16
  Heart, you gotta read it. Okay, there's a character in there.
• 1:30:19
  He's so you. Okay, he's gay, he's a unicorn, he's missing
• 1:30:23
  his horn, but he glitters when he's angry. You'll love him, and
• 1:30:28
  I do, and that that that's gonna be a future episode at some point
• 1:30:34
  after this series. But on that, thank you listening today's episode, Catch
• 1:30:42
  the next time as we continue. As Jacob continues on talking about the Bear
• 1:30:47
  Bear Otter in the Kid, that series of books, what's the title?
• 1:30:51
  Series of it called so the title series is Bear Order in the Kid.
• 1:30:58
  Oh, that's the actual series name. Yeah, so that's it's well,
• 1:31:01
  it's actually a Bear Order and the Kid chronicles. There's third books. Yeah,
• 1:31:06
  there's four books in the series. First two books are like basically the
• 1:31:12
  early like a first book is the start of Bear and Otter's relationship. Second
• 1:31:17
  book is like the continuation of that. Third book is that from the kid's
• 1:31:23
  perspective, But that one is when kid is like in his late teens,
• 1:31:28
  when he's almost twenty years old, so like right now in this book and
• 1:31:32
  the next book, he's like nine to ten, and then later the third
• 1:31:38
  book, it's going to be a significant time gap. And oh my god,
• 1:31:41
  let me tell you something. It's their third book is the kid is
• 1:31:44
  going to be dealing, is going to be finally facing his mental health,
• 1:31:46
  especially when it comes to his panic, his panic attacks, his anxiety,
• 1:31:54
  and his own love, his own romance, all right, with a his
• 1:32:00
  own love for his own love, for what his own romance. He has
• 1:32:03
  his own interests, so like he will explore his budding relationship with a police
• 1:32:10
  officer. Oh mm hmm, okay, don't tell me the gender. Don't
• 1:32:15
  tell me, don't tell me who I gotta say, just the police officer.
• 1:32:18
  Cool. I'll look forward to that, Devin, It's it's it's still
• 1:32:24
  a gay romance novel. Oh so the kid's gay too, uh huh,
• 1:32:29
  got it. But I'm like, unlike his older brother kid, the kid
• 1:32:32
  was completely aware of his sexuality. He was just like, yeh, fuck
• 1:32:36
  it, I'm gay. Work during the next time as we continue on through
• 1:32:44
  this series until that. Until then, until next week, we will be
• 1:32:48
  reviewing book two, The Bear Otter and the Kid Chronicles Who We Are.
• 1:32:55
  Yes, Yeah,