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Hour One | MNF Doubleheader, Nussmeier’s Injury & LSU vs. Southeastern · Off The Bench

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Speaker 1: Let's start to Yoda Presents Off the Bench with Jacob
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Speaker 1: Hester and Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 2: Let's go.
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Speaker 1: Let's go from a championship backfield to your morning drive.
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Speaker 2: Ham'sday. Hester and Hester got it?
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Speaker 3: Fat a ba.
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Speaker 1: You're locked in to Off the Bench control the Live
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Speaker 1: from downtown Baton Rouge.
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Speaker 2: Here's Jacob Hess and Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 4: Yo, welcome in o TV here on this Tuesday morning.
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Speaker 4: Jake Flynn, a landre a Tate all here with you
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Speaker 4: after a long Monday football evening. Uh we are back
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Speaker 4: here with a couple of doves though.
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Speaker 5: Yeah we are Foxhole big Ball.
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Speaker 4: How did it feel first time out? Written for your
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Speaker 4: new squad?
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Speaker 5: What a game?
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Speaker 6: Right?
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Speaker 4: What a game?
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Speaker 7: They made it a game? Try to give that thing away?
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Speaker 7: Really really fun fun fourth quarter?
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Speaker 6: So your first week as a fan of the Bugs, Like,
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Speaker 6: how was your fandom? Are you still getting used to it?
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Speaker 6: Did you cheer for the wrong team a couple of times?
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Speaker 3: Like I did?
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Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding.
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Speaker 3: Uh, that's fine.
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Speaker 5: I mean again, it's fine, kind of weird.
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Speaker 7: It wasn't new, I guess I should say, like I've
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Speaker 7: always kind of chewed for them in the background, you know.
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Speaker 7: The last couple of years, so it wasn't anything.
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Speaker 5: Like side piece.
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Speaker 3: Yeah they were. They were the side piece. Now it's official.
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Speaker 4: It's he's pretty simple.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, but he's a good who's a fun game.
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Speaker 6: I enjoyed watching that game because Baker is an animal
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Speaker 6: playing so well, but he's just so funny to watch.
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Speaker 6: He's got this attitude, got a chip on his shoulder.
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Speaker 6: He scrambles late in the game and gets hurt, falls
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Speaker 6: on his knee and it looks like he's hurting his knee,
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Speaker 6: but then like I don't think, like, I don't think
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Speaker 6: he had time in his brain to even be hurt
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Speaker 6: because he realized he had to get up and start
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Speaker 6: talking trash, right, He's like, wait a minute, I gotta
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Speaker 6: talk trash. So he got up to he's like Chauncey Gardoner, Johnson,
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Speaker 6: Johncy like standing over him. I can just like hear
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Speaker 6: Chauncey just saying, like, you know, calling him names like
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Speaker 6: get up off the ground.
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Speaker 3: Because I think he originally hurt the knee on the
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Speaker 3: sack in the first half.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, and that one looks like that was a little
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Speaker 6: bit more like yeah, okay, I can see your getting
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Speaker 6: hurt there. But yeah, he's like, wait a minute, I
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Speaker 6: can't be hurt. I don't have time for this. I
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Speaker 6: gotta talk trash. He got up and he did. He
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Speaker 6: did just that.
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Speaker 4: Uh yeah, So they when twenty to nineteen over the
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Speaker 4: Texans how to huck take it? Did you watch the game?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 5: He did. He wasn't like thrilled, but he also no,
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Speaker 5: he was actually upset.
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Speaker 6: I was trying to think about because he watched I
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Speaker 6: let him watch a little bit of the second game too,
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Speaker 6: school night. Who uh my oldest watch all of it? Oopsies.
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Speaker 5: So he was, uh yeah, he was pretty upset.
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Speaker 4: He was cheering pretty hard. What I thought they were
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Speaker 4: going to like explode a year and a half ago.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 4: Actually I went to the playoff game where they beat
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Speaker 4: the hell out of the Chargers.
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Speaker 6: Like, I don't know, there's something. There's something a little
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Speaker 6: off about the old Texans, I know, being I mean.
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Speaker 7: We're talking about it before the game, Like I'm not
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Speaker 7: saying they're bad, but like when that game ended, I
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Speaker 7: was like, why are the Texans not better? Like I
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Speaker 7: looked at their past rush like you got Anderson and
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Speaker 7: Danil Hunter, you have Stingley, Jalen Petree. The defense is great,
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Speaker 7: if Stroud you have all these weapons, why aren't they better?
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Speaker 7: They're not a bad team, like Tamika Ryans has won
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Speaker 7: ten games back to back years. Yeah, but there's something
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Speaker 7: missing and I don't really know what it is.
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Speaker 6: They're kind of like, I don't want to say this,
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Speaker 6: but they're kind of like the Chargers have been right,
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Speaker 6: the extremely talent. Hey, great, there a lot of positive
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Speaker 6: energy coming at you today, so relax. I'm just saying
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Speaker 6: they have a really good defense.
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Speaker 4: Hackers get one elite pass rusher.
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Speaker 6: Uh, yeah, like they the Texas have a really good defense.
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Speaker 6: They got Scott C. J. Stroud, who everybody is high on,
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Speaker 6: who's a really good player. But there's just something about
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Speaker 6: them right now.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: They got to find their stride. But they're young, they're talented.
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Speaker 6: Nico Collins is a great player. I agree with you, though, Taylor, like,
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Speaker 6: why aren't they better?
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Speaker 4: And I don't know.
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Speaker 5: I don't know the answer to that, no idea. But
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what Baker's.
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Speaker 4: Competitor and and who is a good team? You're Chargers.
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Speaker 6: Oh, thank you. I don't think I've ever heard you
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Speaker 6: say that they are good. They are pretty good. Look
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Speaker 6: I don't know. I hadn't watched every game. I'm about
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Speaker 6: ready to crown Derwin James Junior is the best safety
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Speaker 6: in the league. There's only been two games. You're saying
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Speaker 6: are like the total the NFL. I'm saying, I think
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Speaker 6: he's he's got to be the best safety in the NFL.
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Speaker 4: R Yeah, he's playing pretty well.
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Speaker 6: Let me think of I mean, that guy was all
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Speaker 6: over the place, from rushing the passer to knocking big
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Speaker 6: plays like not the ball down in big plays down
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Speaker 6: a distance.
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Speaker 5: The guy was all over the place. He's fun to watch.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he is. And not on wood because you have
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Speaker 4: been with me long enough. Uh. I think the Chargers
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Speaker 4: are really good, like you're hesitant to say it, Like
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Speaker 4: I think they're really good. Herbert looks different. He looks
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Speaker 4: fully healthy for the first time in a long time.
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Speaker 4: Receivers look great. Ladarius out there still making plays. Keenan
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Speaker 4: Allen bag gives you another safety blanket. They're not very
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Speaker 4: dynamic and tied end that that worries you a little bit.
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Speaker 5: Who's your other.
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Speaker 4: Receiver blanking on his name? Quinn Johnson. Quinn Johnson turns
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Speaker 4: out he can catch, turns.
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Speaker 6: Out in a row I'm sitting on a pretty good
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Speaker 6: Quentin Johnson card too.
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Speaker 4: There you go. That's how we view the NFL.
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Speaker 5: That's all you like, if people are good or not. Like,
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Speaker 5: I know C. J.
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Speaker 6: Stroud's good because this card market is pretty up there,
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Speaker 6: so I'm like, yeah, he's got to be good, right,
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Speaker 6: it's fair card.
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Speaker 4: People know it is fair. And I know we're bouncing
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Speaker 4: back and forth between the two games. Chargers did beat
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Speaker 4: the Raiders twenty No, it's good. Uh, But to make
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Speaker 4: it relevant to what we talk about every single day,
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Speaker 4: Bucks and Falcons look pretty good.
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Speaker 5: Yeah they do.
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Speaker 4: Now the Panthers look like some hot garbage. Sorry, Memphis,
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Speaker 4: if you're already in the car listening.
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Speaker 5: They're bad, bad, bad.
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Speaker 4: So you're not the worst. But I think the South
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Speaker 4: looks better than people were giving it credit for coming
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Speaker 4: into the season. And i'd include the Saints in that growth,
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Speaker 4: in that development. But the Bucks look good. The Falcons
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Speaker 4: look good against the Vikings kind of winning an ugly
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Speaker 4: game where you don't score a lot of points and
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Speaker 4: your defense comes up and you've been so bad getting
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Speaker 4: after the quarterback and then all of a sudden you
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Speaker 4: use two first round picks and hey, guess what you
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Speaker 4: spend draft capital and edge rushers, you might be better
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Speaker 4: getting after the quarterback.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, it turns out if you pay really good players,
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Speaker 6: your team gets better.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Just funny how that works.
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Speaker 5: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe that.
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Speaker 4: Well, don't understand that the Cowboys pay people, just not
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Speaker 4: Michael Parsons.
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Speaker 3: Hey, they got your Davian Clowney guys, it's fun.
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Speaker 4: They paid a guard ninety million tight.
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Speaker 7: End they did, know to your point, to the Trocah,
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Speaker 7: like the Panthers in the Saints at least first two weeks,
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Speaker 7: like they're not getting blown out. Like the win loss
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Speaker 7: record at the end of the year may not look great,
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Speaker 7: but they're tough howls.
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Speaker 5: And the Panthers yeah, Caroline, Yeah, I mean what they.
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Speaker 7: Lost by four or five on Sunday, Like they're a
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Speaker 7: tough out. And then when you look at the Bucks,
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Speaker 7: like a lot of people like you know, my buddy
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Speaker 7: Mount was texting me last night saying, hey, why the
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Speaker 7: Bucks offense stole out after the first two drops.
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Speaker 3: They were down three offensive linemen after the.
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Speaker 7: First Like after the second possession, Luke Geticky went down,
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Speaker 7: who probably shouldn't have played anyways, like that game's probably
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Speaker 7: different if he doesn't go down. And then the Falcons,
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Speaker 7: I mean, they're getting better and better. It's a pretty
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Speaker 7: good division.
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Speaker 6: I mean see, yeah, I mean every you should be
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Speaker 6: a tough out if you're an NFL football team, right,
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Speaker 6: you should be. And but I agree, the NSS South
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Speaker 6: was like NFC South was not very well thought of
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Speaker 6: except for the Buccaneers. But yeah, I think remember, yeah,
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Speaker 6: the ESPN roster ranking it had like the Bucks at
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Speaker 6: like eleven and then the Falcons were.
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Speaker 4: Like twenty four.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 4: The Panthers were what twenty nine to thirty, and the
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Speaker 4: Saints for thirty two.
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Speaker 5: Yep.
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Speaker 4: It's much better than that.
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Speaker 6: It is much better because the NFC South has two
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Speaker 6: real teams, two real teams this year.
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Speaker 5: The Falcons are going to be real. We've said it here.
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Speaker 6: Michael Pennocks junior is going to be a problem in
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Speaker 6: that division. He's going to be one of these guys
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Speaker 6: that I believe is going to get better and better
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Speaker 6: and better, and they're going to be able to build
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Speaker 6: that team on a rookie quarterback contract for a couple
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Speaker 6: of years, which is a huge deal.
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Speaker 5: But you know, now you got the resurgence of our
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Speaker 5: gut Kyle Pitts.
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Speaker 4: Although you are paying Kirk Cousins, so actually kind of
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Speaker 4: like cancel each other out.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to psycho out enough to know what
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Speaker 6: those like Kirk Cousins dead cap spaces or whatever it
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Speaker 6: is on the team. I guess yet a uniform and everything.
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Speaker 5: How would you feel about that if you was on
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Speaker 5: the team.
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Speaker 4: How did you feel for your Kirk Cousins going back
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Speaker 4: to a place where you were kind of a star
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Speaker 4: and you're a backup? Yeah, like you did going to Minnesota.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, are like this publicly kind of tarnishing that organization
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Speaker 6: on the Netflix documentary? Yeah, I don't know. Kind of weird.
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Speaker 6: I bet there's a.
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Speaker 5: Player only meaning about it. Oh did you hear it?
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Speaker 6: Well, we forgot to talk about it last I think
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Speaker 6: last week the Dolphins had a player only meeting. After
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Speaker 6: week went week one week one player only meaning, good
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Speaker 6: for them, he's got to take control. You gotta take
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Speaker 6: control of the narative.
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Speaker 4: I wonder how much of the message changed from the
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Speaker 4: last day of the preseason to the first day of
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Speaker 4: the second week of the season. How different is that message?
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Speaker 6: Hey you guys, well we suck, so let's get the
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Speaker 6: coaches out of here.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Who do you think talks in that? Meaning? Mmm?
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Speaker 6: For the Dolphins, Tyree kill for better or worse? Probably probably,
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Speaker 6: I mean Jayalen wattles quiet to his quiet who it
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Speaker 6: probably talks, but it's probably boring, right, It probably doesn't
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Speaker 6: make sense because of all the brain bruises. Yeah, I
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Speaker 6: get it, you're probably right right? Not player only A
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Speaker 6: meeting after week one didn't didn't help. Yeah, they lost
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Speaker 6: in heartbreaking fashion.
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Speaker 3: Did you hear Mike McDaniel's post games on Sunday?
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Speaker 5: I saw a clip.
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Speaker 7: I don't remember what he basically said, like, well, I
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Speaker 7: mean in football, you either win the game or lose
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Speaker 7: the game, and we lost the game.
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Speaker 5: Facts, I mean that's a true fact.
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Speaker 3: I mean I can't I can't fact check.
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Speaker 5: You think you would have a better answer.
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Speaker 8: That's where you made a mistake thinking he would have
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Speaker 8: a better answer.
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Speaker 5: Good point. That little like him, But I don't at
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Speaker 5: all why.
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Speaker 3: You know?
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Speaker 7: He always had this little shtick of like I'm too
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Speaker 7: cool to care type of thing.
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Speaker 3: He was also nerdy at the same.
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Speaker 6: Time, be a little bit more like Bear Bryant, smart Bear.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know how long old MIC's gonna be
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Speaker 4: losing games like that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, no, he'll be the He'll be the OC for
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Speaker 6: the Lions next year, for sure.
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Speaker 4: It makes sense, makes a lot of sense.
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Speaker 6: Actually, since we're jumping around like from to every NFL
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Speaker 6: team in this first segment of them, I might as
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Speaker 6: well bring up the Panthers again and talk about Taylor.
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Speaker 6: Brought this to my attention yesterday. Thank you for that
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Speaker 6: fact check. One of my big bold predictions for the
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Speaker 6: season was Panthers receiver Exavier Lagett was gonna get one
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Speaker 6: thousand plus receiving yards this year.
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Speaker 4: He's gonna.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, we got a little update.
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Speaker 6: We're gonna he's gonna pop off this year because because uh,
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Speaker 6: you know, Bryce young he was he finished the season
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Speaker 6: strong last year. Their offense with dynamic, they get rid
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Speaker 6: of feeling who was because they have.
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Speaker 5: All this this young talent.
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Speaker 6: They got a first round receiver that's gonna take take
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Speaker 6: some of the pressure off Exaberly. He's gonna really pop
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Speaker 6: this year. And you know, we got a lot of
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Speaker 6: time left. There's a lot of season left, sixteen games.
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Speaker 6: But the first week not great. What do we have
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Speaker 6: ten yards receiving? Taylor how many receiving yards.
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Speaker 5: Does he have? Week two he had negative two. Okay,
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Speaker 5: so now so I.
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Speaker 6: Went into the week two he needed nine to ninety
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Speaker 6: for me to put that turnover chain on. This week
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Speaker 6: we're going into week three, we need nine to ninety two.
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Speaker 5: Got it?
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Speaker 4: Hey, how are you feeling?
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Speaker 5: Feeling? Not bad? Not bad.
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Speaker 6: It's a long season. Seventeen games, I mean there's fifteen
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Speaker 6: games left. Yeah, yeah, I mean plenty of people have
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Speaker 6: got a thousand yards in fifteen games. Plenty of people
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Speaker 6: will say he set a record, like you know, Jerry.
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Speaker 4: Rice probably yeah, probably like Tim Brown.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, he set a record most targets in a
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Speaker 7: game with negative receiving yards.
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Speaker 3: Eight eight targets was good for negative two yards.
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Speaker 5: That is what that is.
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Speaker 6: Remarkable. That's remarkable, pretty good. That really brought down Bryce
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Speaker 6: Bryce's yards per attempt.
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Speaker 5: Yeah. I wonder what that is for the season. You
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Speaker 5: know what can't be good?
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Speaker 4: All Saints fans everywhere should feel thankful for the Carolina Panthers.
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Speaker 4: They're not the worst. They're not.
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Speaker 6: Well, we'll see, I don't think they are. We're gonna
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Speaker 6: find out. What was the score against Arizona for the
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Speaker 6: Saints twenty thirteen. Yeah, so they lost by seven. Ye,
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Speaker 6: the Panthers lost to the to the Cardinals by five.
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Speaker 4: All right, we're not doing that this morning. We're not
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Speaker 4: starting it off like that. We'll take a break. Unfortunately,
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Speaker 4: we we do have like an injury to LSU's quarterback
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Speaker 4: that we didn't really know about. That I gotta ask
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Speaker 4: you about because I don't know what it's like throwing
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Speaker 4: the football with an injury, and you probably do. So
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Speaker 4: we're gonna ask you about that when we come back.
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Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and Flynn breakdown LSU football
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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTV here on this Tuesday morning.
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Speaker 4: We talked so much about the knee injury that really
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Speaker 4: wasn't a big deal in training camp for garretts Meyer.
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Speaker 5: You know you talking about what his fell off.
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Speaker 4: It went leg fell off and everybody came again and
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Speaker 4: he had like a minor Great they did, great, you
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Speaker 4: had a minor sprain there. We've seen you know, a
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Speaker 4: Nie sleeve here and there still like sometimes a practice
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Speaker 4: whatever from some of the photos that we've seen them
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Speaker 4: put out, so we like we've known that that's been
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Speaker 4: a part of the first couple of games for Garrettsmeyer.
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Speaker 4: But it turns out Brian Kelly said yesterday that he's
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Speaker 4: been nursing a torso injury, and uh, hey, t do
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Speaker 4: we have that? Sound all right, let's go ahead and play.
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Speaker 4: Here is Brian Kelly talking about nus Meyer and this
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Speaker 4: injury that we didn't really know he had.
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Speaker 10: I'll be honest, and I wasn't going to get into this,
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Speaker 10: but with you guys, I will.
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Speaker 5: You know, he's been slowed a.
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Speaker 10: Little bit with a torso injury, and he's fighting through it,
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Speaker 10: and he's getting better, and he's not going to be
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Speaker 10: able to really shut it down until we get to
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Speaker 10: the bye week. And I'm not saying that that has
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Speaker 10: had any of his troubles. I think he is a
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Speaker 10: symptom of what I just answered from Wilson in that
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Speaker 10: you know, we're not ripping it, you know on fourth down,
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Speaker 10: you know, we're taking some plays away from him as well,
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Speaker 10: and he's done a really good job. I think he
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Speaker 10: managed the run game as well.
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Speaker 5: As he has all year.
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Speaker 10: We got to let him get the ball out to
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Speaker 10: the playmakers. That would be more of what has to happen,
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Speaker 10: and then we've got to keep him healthy.
18:32
Speaker 4: All right, I'll throw it to our quarterback because well,
18:36
Speaker 4: I've never thrown a football with a torso injury, and
18:39
Speaker 4: I've never thrown a football in a game, and that
18:43
Speaker 4: feels like a body part that it is not ideal
18:46
Speaker 4: to be able to let it rip if you have
18:48
Speaker 4: any kind of torso abdomen. I don't know. Yeah, well,
18:53
Speaker 4: on where it's at.
18:54
Speaker 6: Yeah, it kind of depends on what I mean, I
18:56
Speaker 6: guess it doesn't. It doesn't depend on where it is.
18:58
Speaker 6: But like a torso injury is a torso injury, it's
19:00
Speaker 6: got to be some sort of ab muscle pull pull
19:04
Speaker 6: or some sort of most muscle pul I don't know
19:07
Speaker 6: what other injury it could be, which is highly effect.
19:14
Speaker 5: That would be a little.
19:15
Speaker 6: Bit more serious, though I think that. I mean, that's
19:18
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm assuming there's probably grades but the surgery
19:25
Speaker 6: when it's like a sports herney situation, but it's got
19:27
Speaker 6: to be some sort of muscle pull or aggravation or something.
19:33
Speaker 5: But I can tell you the way, if you have
19:35
Speaker 5: a powerful.
19:36
Speaker 6: Onm like all throwers, all swingers are all kickers, your
19:38
Speaker 6: power comes from your rotation, right, It's not then come
19:41
Speaker 6: from big strong arm. It comes from how you your
19:45
Speaker 6: timing of the rotation of your hips and your and
19:48
Speaker 6: your lower body and then can you time up your
19:50
Speaker 6: arm and sync it up with that. But you know,
19:52
Speaker 6: the harder you throw it, the more torque is produced
19:57
Speaker 6: with your hips and the rotation, so you spin harder
20:02
Speaker 6: and what I mean spind You spin your hips harder
20:04
Speaker 6: the harder you hit it. That's why I like a
20:06
Speaker 6: golfer that is, you know, five to six about twenty five,
20:12
Speaker 6: can hit it farther than the strongest guy in the
20:14
Speaker 6: world because they create they create speed. So the faster
20:18
Speaker 6: you spend, the faster you can move your arm. The
20:20
Speaker 6: faster the better leverage, and the faster the ball speed. Yeah,
20:24
Speaker 6: so of course that's going to make a big difference.
20:26
Speaker 6: And Garrett is so talented with his arm. We've seen
20:30
Speaker 6: it for two years now and real action started last
20:34
Speaker 6: year than the year before that, and some backup duties,
20:36
Speaker 6: and we saw it in the Bowl game versus Wisconsin.
20:39
Speaker 5: Like we know he can make all the throws.
20:41
Speaker 6: So when I look back on games, when I look
20:43
Speaker 6: back at Louisian attack early on and he throws a
20:46
Speaker 6: deep ball that's ten yards behind the receiver, you start
20:52
Speaker 6: putting the pieces together. Now that Brian Kelly says this,
20:56
Speaker 6: you start looking at the evidence on the field, and
21:00
Speaker 6: it makes sense, right, it makes sense that he hasn't
21:03
Speaker 6: been able to make all the throws, especially when your
21:07
Speaker 6: foot when your feet get when.
21:09
Speaker 5: Everything's not perfect.
21:10
Speaker 6: So when everything's not perfect, like if your feet are
21:13
Speaker 6: right under you, like you're warming up, the pocket's cleaned,
21:16
Speaker 6: everything is perfect, it's easy to you know, keep your
21:19
Speaker 6: shoulder closed. It's easy to kind of protect that. What's
21:22
Speaker 6: what's painful. But when your feet get out of whack,
21:26
Speaker 6: when you're having to move in the pocket, move around,
21:29
Speaker 6: and your feet, like, you still have to create torque
21:32
Speaker 6: in different ways.
21:32
Speaker 5: You still have to create torque.
21:33
Speaker 6: But let's just say if you know how you normally throw,
21:36
Speaker 6: like you stand up and you know your your your
21:38
Speaker 6: feet are parallel, your shoulders point at your target foot,
21:42
Speaker 6: you step perfectly. But let's just say your feet are
21:46
Speaker 6: spread out, yeah, and they're not they're they're both of
21:51
Speaker 6: your feet are Pope pointing at the target. So then
21:53
Speaker 6: you've got to really close your left shoulder down. Now
21:55
Speaker 6: you've got to create a lot of torque. And so
21:57
Speaker 6: when that happens, I can and see how torso injury
22:01
Speaker 6: would be very effective. And I think we saw that
22:03
Speaker 6: in the D ball and we've seen that he's just
22:05
Speaker 6: he hadn't you know, he's looking good at times, but
22:09
Speaker 6: he's making some throws they're a little bit uncharacteristic to
22:12
Speaker 6: what we've seen and like if he was a brand
22:14
Speaker 6: new starter, you wouldn't be able to have those tails.
22:18
Speaker 6: But we've seen him make every single throw consistently on
22:21
Speaker 6: the football field, So you know, if he's not wincing
22:27
Speaker 6: though he's not like, it can't be so bad that
22:32
Speaker 6: a little lot of profin's not helping it. But I
22:34
Speaker 6: think it's.
22:35
Speaker 4: When the strongest thing, uh.
22:42
Speaker 5: Real high powered. But I don't know, I mean, it's
22:45
Speaker 5: just my curiosity.
22:47
Speaker 4: Is but there has been something that has been a
22:50
Speaker 4: little off, and we've.
22:52
Speaker 6: Just thought, I got a footwork mechanical, Like he's just
22:54
Speaker 6: off mechanically a little bit.
22:57
Speaker 5: He's been off his.
22:58
Speaker 6: His platform as so it makes sense though from what
23:02
Speaker 6: I've noticed, that it would be kind of protecting a
23:05
Speaker 6: little bit of an injury.
23:07
Speaker 4: So later on in the show, I'll pull up I
23:12
Speaker 4: have the passing chart and kind of where he's thrown
23:15
Speaker 4: every football, how far it's traveled, and you can kind
23:20
Speaker 4: of see what we're talking about.
23:21
Speaker 6: And look, you've noticed, I mean, look are football fans,
23:25
Speaker 6: I'll watched a lot of football, Like you realize that
23:27
Speaker 6: the ball hasn't been pushed down the field a ton.
23:30
Speaker 4: Like the Louisiana Tech throw is like really the one
23:37
Speaker 4: that I can think of in three games where it's like, hey,
23:40
Speaker 4: let a rip, go out there and see how far
23:42
Speaker 4: you can throw it. Yep, I don't remember seeing another one.
23:46
Speaker 4: That's not to say you hadn't thrown like, you know,
23:48
Speaker 4: a deep dig route. You've certainly done that. I believe
23:52
Speaker 4: you hit a corner route early not the last game,
23:55
Speaker 4: earlier in the season. But when you look at the
23:57
Speaker 4: passing chart, you look at the passing map, there hasn't
24:01
Speaker 4: been a ton of pushing the ball down the field,
24:04
Speaker 4: and certainly like your deeper throws have actually been over
24:07
Speaker 4: the middle and haven't been towards the sideline between you know,
24:11
Speaker 4: the numbers and the sideline.
24:13
Speaker 6: He's going to be a farther throat and deeper throws
24:15
Speaker 6: over the middle. Are you got to think about it?
24:17
Speaker 6: It's kind of what I'm talking Everything is like perfect,
24:19
Speaker 6: Like your feet are perfectly in line, your shoulders perfectly
24:21
Speaker 6: in line.
24:22
Speaker 5: Now when you start throwing to the sideline.
24:24
Speaker 6: So I would think if you go back with a
24:26
Speaker 6: torso injury, for a right handed quarterback, thrown to the left,
24:28
Speaker 6: is going to stress your a torso injury out, Yeah,
24:31
Speaker 6: because kind of the kind of what I'm talking about,
24:33
Speaker 6: if your feet are at a weird angle as a
24:36
Speaker 6: right a quarterback, you really have to torch your left
24:38
Speaker 6: shoulder when you're rolling to your left to close down. Now,
24:41
Speaker 6: if you're rolling to your right, everything's kind of perfect. Yeah,
24:44
Speaker 6: So I would think that that would create a little
24:46
Speaker 6: bit less stress less pain in a stone motion. But
24:50
Speaker 6: running to his left, I would imagine he's got a
24:53
Speaker 6: little less zip, little less juice, little less accuracy to that.
24:57
Speaker 5: All right.
24:57
Speaker 4: So with all that being said, and again don't specifically
25:01
Speaker 4: know what the injury is, just a torso injury, but really, honestly,
25:05
Speaker 4: no matter what it is, that is going to be
25:07
Speaker 4: something that affects you throwing the football certainly down the field. Well,
25:11
Speaker 4: what does that mean for the next couple of weeks.
25:14
Speaker 4: We'll take a look. Don't temp me with a good
25:20
Speaker 4: time here, buddy, let's do it. Don't tempt me with
25:23
Speaker 4: a good time. I mean, hey, hey, he closed out
25:26
Speaker 4: last game. But let's take a look at the next
25:27
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25:30
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25:33
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25:36
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25:39
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25:42
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Speaker 4: So we mentioned the Gary Nessumier injury and Brian Kelly
29:19
Speaker 4: said he's dealing with a little bit of a torso
29:21
Speaker 4: when talked about what it possibly could be. But no
29:24
Speaker 4: matter what it is, it certainly is something that is
29:27
Speaker 4: going to affect the way you throw the football. And
29:29
Speaker 4: Brian Kelly said, it's like that's not the only reason.
29:31
Speaker 4: There's a couple of things that we need to do better.
29:34
Speaker 4: U And they have Southeastern Louisiana coming up, the fighting
29:37
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29:42
Speaker 4: I'm w I throw this one to you before we
29:44
Speaker 4: showed the passing map that we talked about in the
29:47
Speaker 4: last segment. All right, now you are three and zero
29:52
Speaker 4: is the number three team in the country. You start
29:56
Speaker 4: SEC play back again next week against soul Miss on
30:00
Speaker 4: the road. What do you do if you're the head
30:05
Speaker 4: coach with Garrett Nessmeyer this week. Again, you're somebody that's
30:11
Speaker 4: been in this situation. You had to miss Middle Tennessee
30:14
Speaker 4: State our senior year because you weren't ready to go
30:17
Speaker 4: and you needed some rest.
30:19
Speaker 6: If it's really a problem, which if you're trying to
30:21
Speaker 6: read the tea leaves and go back and overanalyze the
30:25
Speaker 6: first three weeks, you could make the argument that it
30:31
Speaker 6: has affected the game plan. Potentially, This is all potential.
30:34
Speaker 6: I have no idea. But if it has affected the
30:37
Speaker 6: game plan to the point to which your offense is
30:42
Speaker 6: running at half the capacity it was last year, which
30:46
Speaker 6: is kind of the truth up to this point, then
30:50
Speaker 6: I would send him there's no point in playing in
30:52
Speaker 6: one quarter.
30:53
Speaker 5: What's that do?
30:53
Speaker 6: He's still got to practice and throw every single day, right,
30:56
Speaker 6: what's that do? It doesn't do anything. So you either
30:58
Speaker 6: rest them the entire week, or you go out there
31:02
Speaker 6: and if you decide to play them, it's not like
31:03
Speaker 6: you're going to play him for one quarter. You just
31:05
Speaker 6: play them at that point until he comes out naturally
31:08
Speaker 6: throughout the progression of the game. If you get up big,
31:11
Speaker 6: which you should, but he can't beat Southeastern without Garret
31:15
Speaker 6: Dustmyer then.
31:18
Speaker 4: What are we doing? Yeah, so and I do. Look,
31:23
Speaker 4: I hate to talk about about any team. To your point,
31:26
Speaker 4: it's just a different it's a different game, right, It's
31:28
Speaker 4: there's some opponents that are from the G six love
31:33
Speaker 4: you Southeast that you do have to hydrate it, you do,
31:35
Speaker 4: so do you have to worry about But you're right,
31:38
Speaker 4: like you have a backup quarterback that has multiple games
31:40
Speaker 4: of sec starting experience. So if that is an option,
31:43
Speaker 4: if it is something where the severity of what you're
31:46
Speaker 4: talking about, then that's a decision you have to make.
31:50
Speaker 6: You We used to say, what did Stacy Searles used
31:55
Speaker 6: to say it offensive.
31:56
Speaker 5: Oh lord, I'm nervously playing Mississippi State. During the week,
32:02
Speaker 5: he was like, we're.
32:03
Speaker 4: Playing Mississippi State.
32:05
Speaker 6: You are playing All the guys at LSU didn't offer
32:08
Speaker 6: scholarships too, So like this year your backup quarterback at LSUC.
32:14
Speaker 5: Your backup quarterback at LSU. Like I'm sorry, Like it's
32:17
Speaker 5: just a different level of college.
32:18
Speaker 6: Obviously we all know this. We're not speaking for Southeastern
32:21
Speaker 6: knows this. Like they didn't get a scholarship offer from
32:24
Speaker 6: Southeastern because that Southeastern knew that they wouldn't go there, right,
32:27
Speaker 6: so like the backup quarterback at LSU should be able to.
32:30
Speaker 5: Go in there and play ball.
32:32
Speaker 6: So if it has effected, which if you like, again
32:35
Speaker 6: looking back at the game, looking at looking back at
32:38
Speaker 6: the tape, looking back at the stats and the passing chart,
32:41
Speaker 6: it's like you can make the argument that something has
32:43
Speaker 6: been off and the game plan has been tailored around that.
32:45
Speaker 6: We talk about all these passes behind the line of scrimmage,
32:48
Speaker 6: all these screenplays, all everything that we're doing, the question
32:53
Speaker 6: can be posed.
32:54
Speaker 5: We'll never get the answer. We won't know this. But Taylor,
32:58
Speaker 5: do you have my computer pulled up?
33:00
Speaker 6: Go ahead and show that we got the passing chart
33:02
Speaker 6: pulled up here, and we're gonna kind of show you
33:07
Speaker 6: exactly what is happening with.
33:09
Speaker 4: And I mean, just so you know, although like in
33:11
Speaker 4: this conversation it doesn't really matter too much. The green
33:16
Speaker 4: dots are completed, the blue dots are touchdowns, the yellow
33:20
Speaker 4: dots are incomplete and kind of the maroon ones or interceptions,
33:24
Speaker 4: and the purple is pick sixes.
33:27
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you don't have anything you're gonna see here.
33:29
Speaker 6: It looks like, you know, there's just spots and freckles
33:31
Speaker 6: everywhere on this on the screen. But if you start
33:35
Speaker 6: looking closely at everything, the one that is crazy to
33:39
Speaker 6: me is the behind the line of scrimmage. So behind
33:41
Speaker 6: the line of scrimmage, there's twenty four so one hundred
33:43
Speaker 6: and sixteen pass attempts to total, all right, so twenty
33:47
Speaker 6: four of them are behind the line of scrimmage. Twenty
33:50
Speaker 6: nine passes are within five yards of the line of scrimmage.
33:54
Speaker 6: So that's a total of forty nearly forty six percent
33:57
Speaker 6: of your passes or five or left, so nearly about
34:02
Speaker 6: twenty percent of your passes. A little bit more than
34:04
Speaker 6: twenty percent of your passes are going behind the line
34:06
Speaker 6: of scrimmage. Which can you make that argument of in
34:11
Speaker 6: this offense with dynamic receivers, with a quarterback who has
34:16
Speaker 6: aired the ball out day in weekend, week out last year,
34:20
Speaker 6: thrown for a billion yards in his first ever start
34:22
Speaker 6: in a bowl game versus Wisconsin, Like, can we sit
34:27
Speaker 6: there and say that they're not game planning around some
34:30
Speaker 6: sort of some sort of injury where he can't create
34:33
Speaker 6: the torque he want that he really wants like he can.
34:37
Speaker 6: But if you're throwing through pain, especially down the field,
34:41
Speaker 6: thrown it hard, you're going to be less accurate. It's
34:44
Speaker 6: just impossible. You're going to make some accurate throws. It's
34:46
Speaker 6: kind of like a quarterback with bad mechanics can make
34:49
Speaker 6: good throws, but he's not going to do it at
34:50
Speaker 6: a consistent level that you need to do to be
34:53
Speaker 6: at to play at a high level for a consistent
34:55
Speaker 6: amount of time. So, yeah, you can show clips, Well
34:59
Speaker 6: look at this though, Well that's great. Well, yeah, it
35:01
Speaker 6: doesn't mean like every throw is gonna be like that.
35:03
Speaker 6: If he's wincing through it, if he has pain creating
35:05
Speaker 6: that torque and throwing it down the field, he might
35:08
Speaker 6: make one, two, three good throws, but he's gonna make
35:12
Speaker 6: a throw that is not good. He might make two
35:14
Speaker 6: throws that are not good, three throws that are not good. Like,
35:16
Speaker 6: it's not gonna be as consistent as you want. So
35:20
Speaker 6: I think based on that passing chart, like it doesn't
35:22
Speaker 6: look too dissimilar.
35:23
Speaker 5: There's always going to be more passes short.
35:25
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, but he's this is a little six longest
35:29
Speaker 4: throws so far are twenty six, twenty eight, actually twenty
35:35
Speaker 4: six to three at twenty eight yards, a thirty two
35:38
Speaker 4: yarder and then a thirty four yard airtime thirty four
35:42
Speaker 4: yards is the longest so far down the.
35:44
Speaker 6: Field, and that thirty four yard or so thirty four
35:46
Speaker 6: is not that far right, And that was the one
35:48
Speaker 6: that was so intercepting, and that was the one that
35:51
Speaker 6: was intercepted. He threw it about ten yards behind the guy.
35:54
Speaker 6: So his furthest air throw this season was thirty four
35:58
Speaker 6: yards and it was about five five, ten yards behind
36:00
Speaker 6: the guy. So like there's an argument there to be
36:03
Speaker 6: made that this has effected the game plan. Like there's
36:06
Speaker 6: one throw that's about forty five yards right at the
36:09
Speaker 6: top tip up.
36:12
Speaker 4: I don't even don't remember, to your point, even one
36:15
Speaker 4: that I sat there and remember, I don't.
36:17
Speaker 5: I don't even they're call yep.
36:20
Speaker 6: And beside the interception, there's only one other throw that's
36:22
Speaker 6: passed thirty yards in the air. Yeah, but again, but
36:26
Speaker 6: to our point, Pepper in the middle of the field.
36:28
Speaker 6: Pepper in the middle of the field, in that intermediate range,
36:33
Speaker 6: that ten to twenty twenty yard range. I see Aaron
36:38
Speaker 6: Anderson dots all.
36:39
Speaker 4: Over this place, and I'm also I'm looking. So I
36:42
Speaker 4: went back and I looked at last year's like complete
36:46
Speaker 4: totality of the chart and the middle of the football
36:51
Speaker 4: field kind of looks like a Christmas tree at forty
36:56
Speaker 4: plus yards where you don't see a single die on
37:00
Speaker 4: there this year.
37:02
Speaker 6: And you can't credit the defenses for all of that, right,
37:06
Speaker 6: Like we talked about it with like when teams play
37:08
Speaker 6: over the top, they play a big shell coverage, you
37:11
Speaker 6: take what you can get. That we watched it. That's
37:14
Speaker 6: not what this is. Like, there's a lot of it.
37:15
Speaker 6: Of course, you're you're gonna have a lot of checkdowns.
37:18
Speaker 6: A lot of great quarterbacks, a lot of Hall of
37:20
Speaker 6: Fame quarterbacks made their career on hitting the checkdown. Yeah,
37:23
Speaker 6: and checking it down and getting guys in space. So
37:26
Speaker 6: that's gonna be there. That should be a part of
37:28
Speaker 6: every good quarterback.
37:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't even necessarily like we're not sitting here
37:31
Speaker 4: talking about like you have to like every single but
37:35
Speaker 4: it's just showing you they have not right and that
37:38
Speaker 4: and you pair that with hearing that maybe there's a
37:41
Speaker 4: torso injury, it's like, okay, well do they have the
37:43
Speaker 4: ability to do so? Now, Look, coverage are gonna dictate
37:45
Speaker 4: a lot of that too. Like last week, Florida's like, hey,
37:48
Speaker 4: we're gonna play two high safeties and we're just we're
37:51
Speaker 4: not gonna allow you to throw it over the top
37:54
Speaker 4: one out of five, and we don't think you can
37:55
Speaker 4: run it either, So we're gonna.
37:56
Speaker 6: Keep two twenty point six eight percent, So one out
37:59
Speaker 6: of just omber one out of every time. At five
38:03
Speaker 6: times Garrett moves his right arm and that ball comes
38:06
Speaker 6: out of his hand, it's going behind one of scrimmage.
38:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, so certainly something to pay attention to. We'll see
38:12
Speaker 4: what happens this week.
38:14
Speaker 5: We might have just overanalyzed something that's you.
38:16
Speaker 4: Might have no idea, but it's not an injury that
38:19
Speaker 4: we knew before. And you're wondering, Okay, this does look
38:22
Speaker 4: a little bit different the chart. Before even pulled it up,
38:27
Speaker 4: I kind of had an idea of what it was
38:28
Speaker 4: going to be. But even those numbers that you gave
38:30
Speaker 4: are a little bit higher than I even thought. I mean,
38:33
Speaker 4: that's that's a high percentage of the time. Then when
38:35
Speaker 4: you go back and you look at what last year's
38:37
Speaker 4: chart was as far as deep shots over the middle
38:39
Speaker 4: of the field, Now, look your three games in that
38:42
Speaker 4: could change. But you had multiple big plays, big shots
38:47
Speaker 4: in the middle of the football field forty plus yards
38:49
Speaker 4: in the air, and you have yet to have one
38:51
Speaker 4: of those this year.
38:54
Speaker 6: That Yeah, looking at that chart, it was kind of
38:56
Speaker 6: shocking to me how few dots were passed thirty year
39:00
Speaker 6: yards crazy.
39:03
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Speaker 4: All right, So, one of the things of you know,
41:36
Speaker 4: surrounding the passing game that I feel like it is
41:39
Speaker 4: just like an easy take is the offensive line, which
41:44
Speaker 4: is just not factual in the passing game, in the
41:47
Speaker 4: run game. And I don't know if this was on
41:49
Speaker 4: air or off air yesterday, Flynn, you were talking about
41:52
Speaker 4: it and you're right, like it's robotic. Yep, it's this
41:55
Speaker 4: is my guy. They're worried about assignment.
41:57
Speaker 6: You worried about their technique, Oh, coach told me, I
42:00
Speaker 6: I gotta put presents on him for to to count.
42:03
Speaker 4: Yeah, even even when you don't have to have hand presence, Yeah.
42:06
Speaker 6: Even when the leverage of the defensive tackle doesn't doesn't
42:09
Speaker 6: tell you.
42:10
Speaker 4: Yes, So that part of it. Yeah, we can sit there,
42:13
Speaker 4: we can watch tape and I and I would agree
42:15
Speaker 4: with you. Probably it's not even a talent thing. I
42:17
Speaker 4: think it's just like trying to be perfect too much,
42:21
Speaker 4: and sometimes in the run game, not even sometimes most
42:23
Speaker 4: of the time, that can get you in trouble. But
42:25
Speaker 4: to just throw a blanket on offensive line, here's your
42:29
Speaker 4: starting grades for your offensive line in pass protection. And also,
42:33
Speaker 4: like your eye should have told you, like there was
42:35
Speaker 4: a real clean pocket. You gave up no sacks to Florida.
42:39
Speaker 4: They had seven against you a year ago. You gave
42:42
Speaker 4: up zero. Your starting center Braylan Moore eighty seven point nine.
42:47
Speaker 4: This is on the season, by the way, this is
42:49
Speaker 4: just one game. Paul Mubinga your left guard eighty three
42:54
Speaker 4: point three, Josh Thompson your right guard eighty one point two,
42:57
Speaker 4: Tyree Adams your left tackle eight point nine. Now West
43:01
Speaker 4: and Davis your right tackle. And that's probably where you've
43:04
Speaker 4: seen the most leakage from sixty two. So I can
43:09
Speaker 4: we can have that conversation. But when you've got on
43:12
Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus, which we love here, we talk about
43:14
Speaker 4: the grades. Often when you have all other starting linemen
43:18
Speaker 4: at least at seventy eight point nine or higher, it's
43:23
Speaker 4: the take doesn't take. It's not a take. You watch
43:27
Speaker 4: tape and there's clean pockets, Like they have faced off
43:31
Speaker 4: against Clemson that's got two first round defensive linemen and
43:35
Speaker 4: given up one sack, and then they play a Florida
43:38
Speaker 4: team that sacked you seven times a year ago and
43:42
Speaker 4: you give up no sacks. The pass protection doesn't go
43:46
Speaker 4: into the equation of why you haven't been as successful
43:49
Speaker 4: throwing the football. It just doesn't. You can use it
43:52
Speaker 4: as a narrative, but it's just not factual. Now in
43:55
Speaker 4: the run game, again, you're right there, and again it's
43:58
Speaker 4: not a talent thing. Right now, It's not like they're
44:00
Speaker 4: just getting run through. They're just trying to be so
44:02
Speaker 4: perfect in hand placement. Here it's like, well, actually your
44:06
Speaker 4: guy had him already and you're wasting time getting to
44:08
Speaker 4: the second level. We can have that conversation, but as
44:12
Speaker 4: far as the passing portion of this, I'm not gonna
44:16
Speaker 4: sit here and say that the pockets haven't been good,
44:18
Speaker 4: because they have been.
44:20
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when you have that many passes like we
44:23
Speaker 6: just kind of broke down that passing chart that are
44:25
Speaker 6: either behind the line of scrimmage or within five yards,
44:27
Speaker 6: those are quick hitting things, and that is like, if
44:30
Speaker 6: you're gonna protect an offensive line, yeah, you do it
44:34
Speaker 6: with an element of quick passes, you do with the
44:37
Speaker 6: element of screens, but at some point in games you
44:41
Speaker 6: have to push the ball. You have to push it, yeah,
44:45
Speaker 6: or you're just gonna get teed off on on screen
44:48
Speaker 6: passes you're teed off on, you're gonna press coverage, you're
44:50
Speaker 6: gonna have safeties jumping down.
44:52
Speaker 5: And there's other ways to help.
44:54
Speaker 6: You help with chips, you help with nudges, you help
44:56
Speaker 6: with thumps, you help with different ways that tied ends
44:59
Speaker 6: and run can help the tackles block a defensive end.
45:03
Speaker 6: And just like you said, right tackle, we probably seen
45:05
Speaker 6: more chips, more thumps from on that side of the ball,
45:09
Speaker 6: just helping the right tackle out a little bit more.
45:12
Speaker 6: But a bad offensive line is not what we have,
45:15
Speaker 6: Like we don't have a bad pass protecting off Like
45:18
Speaker 6: I don't know, it's not last year's offensive line by
45:20
Speaker 6: any means to this point in the season. But and
45:24
Speaker 6: they're getting better at working with each other. But you still,
45:26
Speaker 6: like you push the ball down the field. Still there's
45:29
Speaker 6: ways to protect it and push it. Like we saw
45:31
Speaker 6: well Jaden's first year It was kind of the opposite,
45:34
Speaker 6: the wrong way of doing it when you're just protecting
45:37
Speaker 6: with seven eight guys and trying to throw a deep.
45:39
Speaker 6: But the element, the threat of throwing it short, throwing
45:43
Speaker 6: screens protects your offensive line as well. So I don't know,
45:48
Speaker 6: it's not throwing it short is not a product of
45:51
Speaker 6: an offensive line. Right now, we just hadn't seen bad protection.
45:54
Speaker 4: All right, more coming back your way. I remember two
45:57
Speaker 4: OTV off the bench,