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Best of Chuck & Buck 10-16 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Lady and gentlemen.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen beholding US sixty one guard from Brighton,
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  Speaker 2: Illanois and former high school basketball stand up.
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  Speaker 1: What in the hell does that mean? Don't jumped any conclusions.
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  Speaker 1: Not a god, You've got to lower lower your expectations.
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  Speaker 2: Hard to believe he could once send a fastball to Pluto.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting Bucky Jacobs and vibes and former I'll just
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  Speaker 3: openly admit I'm a fat, out of shaped X athlete.
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  Speaker 1: Now there's been a noticeable spike in your blood pressure.
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  Speaker 2: A five seven guard and a former college water polo
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  Speaker 2: and national champions.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of useless crap up here.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, this is Chuck and Buck in the Morning with
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  Speaker 2: Ashley Ryan. What do you buy to Lado Casino Resort
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  Speaker 2: the action never stopped.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, good morning, Welcome into the Thursday edition of Chuck
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  Speaker 1: and Buck in the Morning Sports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 1: three kJ R FM. My name is Chuck Powell, former
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  Speaker 1: Mariner Bucky Jacobson us here Ashley Ryan as well as
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  Speaker 1: we roll out the Thursday edition of our radio show,
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  Speaker 1: and we do so without celebration. Here today, as we're
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  Speaker 1: coming off a loss last night in the American League
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  Speaker 1: Championship Series thirteen to four, the final score. The Blue
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  Speaker 1: Jays Bats finally showed up in the series. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: talking about it quite a bit throughout the course of
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  Speaker 1: our broadcast Morning with You, but we'll sprinkle in some
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  Speaker 1: other things as well as So we we do have
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  Speaker 1: four hours together, we might as well really get to
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  Speaker 1: know each other day. That's great. Yeah, nice in that
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  Speaker 1: hoodie sweatshirt you got on. Oh, we thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you look warm, looks like you should be warmer.
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  Speaker 1: That's probably true. That much I do know about her.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, today's about getting to know each other better.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, she's the coldest person ever. Yeah, and you're
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  Speaker 1: the warmest. Yeah, I'm I'm hot.
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  Speaker 5: I wouldn't mind if you gave me some of that.
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  Speaker 3: I could show you the way. It's just extra fat,
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  Speaker 3: that's all you need.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not just about the three of us.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get to know all of our listeners
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  Speaker 1: better today as we you know, heal from a loss
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  Speaker 1: last night. For example, Kevin, you know who I'm you
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  Speaker 1: know I'm talking to Kevin. Yeah, when did you lose
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  Speaker 1: your virginity. I've been wondering that for a long time. Question. Yeah, Margaret,
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  Speaker 1: you can hear me, Margaret. Yeah, well, how many taxes
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  Speaker 1: did you not report? How much of your income did
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  Speaker 1: you not the area? Yeah, well I don't know. These
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  Speaker 1: are just things i'd like to know about our listeners. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a great idea.
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  Speaker 3: Just go ahead, you can text us, you can hit
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  Speaker 3: the talk back by let us know the laws you've broken,
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  Speaker 3: and we will not report you.
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  Speaker 1: I like to start all like personal relationships, with knowing
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  Speaker 1: your deepest, darkest secret, and then I can judge you
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  Speaker 1: going forward. Yeah, yeah, agree, that's why I agree.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's a good way to start. You don't
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  Speaker 5: mean to unfold after time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of first dates, just start and write
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  Speaker 1: that way in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 4: Just down what's your Social Security member?
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  Speaker 5: Just so I can get an idea of your financial background.
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  Speaker 1: Not a lot of second dates, as it turns out, surprising. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of first law Yeah, definitely. Well, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: We have to have a little bit of fun, because
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't too much fun last night. I mean it
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  Speaker 1: started great. Julio Rodriguez, it's the two run Homer. It
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  Speaker 1: was undeniable that all the concern about whether or not
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  Speaker 1: Toronto Canada Blue Jays We're going to take over our stadium,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't even come close to happening. I mean, it
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  Speaker 1: was a little tricky visually to kind of figure out
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  Speaker 1: how many Blue Jays fans are here, because I did
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  Speaker 1: spend some time doing that. I even took a picture
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  Speaker 1: of a Blue Jays family and was going to tweet
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  Speaker 1: out something about could the security please escort these people
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  Speaker 1: out of here? And they were such a sweet family,
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  Speaker 1: like a mom and dad and two little kids, and
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't wait. And I was about ready to plan
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  Speaker 1: a weapon on them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Good, Yeah, that would have been a good idea.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then call security and uh and yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just decided not to go there. And it's a good
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  Speaker 1: thing I did, because they hardly made a ripple last night.
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  Speaker 1: Mariner fans were just uh, they were outstanding again last
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  Speaker 1: night for as long as they could be. Yea, at
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  Speaker 1: some point the game gets so lopsided it's hard to
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's hard to keep that energy up, understandably,
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was not an issue last night. So
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  Speaker 1: it got off to such a great start the national
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  Speaker 1: anthem and the old Canada song. Those triplets knocked that
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  Speaker 1: out of the park. So there was like a really
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  Speaker 1: good vibe there for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for
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  Speaker 1: a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was I was a little I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't overly concerned about them coming in. I kind of
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  Speaker 3: thought there's gonna be some Blue Jays fans there, and
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  Speaker 3: you're right, it's hard to tell because of their royal
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  Speaker 3: blue and now we have the city connects and so
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  Speaker 3: it just kind of but when they were announcing the
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  Speaker 3: lineups and the rosters, it was abundantly clear that they
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  Speaker 3: were a gigantic minority and and and they showed up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'll say.
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  Speaker 3: Even even though the game got completely out of hand
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  Speaker 3: when we went when a Rosarina and col hit those homers.
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  Speaker 1: They blew up again. The crowd sat down in.
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  Speaker 3: The middle innings when they were giving up crooked number
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  Speaker 3: after crooked number, where they hadn't basically sat down since Friday.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think really, literally anyone in Seattle
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  Speaker 3: had sat down since last Friday. So uh, they did.
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  Speaker 3: Finally the legs got tired and what they were watching
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  Speaker 3: wasn't They weren't getting a whole lot to cheer about,
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  Speaker 3: and so it made sense where it kind of quieted down,
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  Speaker 3: but they still you could tell that they were they
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  Speaker 3: were hyped up.
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  Speaker 1: I mean even like eighth or ninth inning.
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  Speaker 3: There was people above the hit it here, Cafe Hip
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  Speaker 3: Hip hoor hey man, I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Still trying to cheer and yeah, like the city's string
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  Speaker 1: down nine runs, they still were bringing it. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 1: were bringing it, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the team not so much. But that's the way
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  Speaker 3: that it happens. Sometimes you're going up against a good
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  Speaker 3: team and George made some mistakes and they pay.
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  Speaker 1: He had to pay for it.
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  Speaker 5: Well. And I don't think anyone thought that like Toronto
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  Speaker 5: was just gonna roll over and die. And I think
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  Speaker 5: anyone I didn't think it was going to be a
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  Speaker 5: sweep by any means. So I didn't leave that game
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  Speaker 5: thinking that's the worst thing. I mean I left I
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  Speaker 5: was like, well that was disappointing. Okay, on to the
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  Speaker 5: next one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that feeling carried over into our post game
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  Speaker 1: show last night. I mean, Jimmy's remained pretty packed. You know,
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  Speaker 1: a game got over at eight thirty ish, eight twenty ish,
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like it was all that late. But
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy's remained pretty packed throughout the our entire post game
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  Speaker 1: show last night, probably because of Bucky and I. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: people can't get enough of us, Yeah for sure, But
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  Speaker 1: it remained and there was there was no feeling. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: there was even a member of the Mariners organization we
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  Speaker 1: won't say any names. So it was there, you know,
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  Speaker 1: smiling and hanging out with friends and having a beer.
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  Speaker 1: So nobody took it too seriously. And look, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fan bases do take a loss, take it a
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  Speaker 1: little too far, you know, and certainly Seattle fan bases
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  Speaker 1: have been known to do that. We've already had this
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  Speaker 1: fan base, half of it, give up on the postseason
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  Speaker 1: twice this postseason already.
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  Speaker 5: See how many people thought it was over after we
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  Speaker 5: lost to Detroit in game one.
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  Speaker 1: Game one and Game four. Yeah, and so, but there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't any of that. Now that comes with a two
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  Speaker 1: two game cushion, certainly, and taking both of those in Toronto,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody that we chatted with it came over and
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  Speaker 1: talked to us, and certainly the vibe in the bar
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  Speaker 1: was we're good, We're all right, and I do think
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  Speaker 1: we're good and I do think we're all right, and
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  Speaker 1: I still think there's a very good chance that we
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  Speaker 1: don't go back to Canada and we end up taking
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  Speaker 1: this thing in five. But obviously, to Ashley's point, uh,
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  Speaker 1: Toronto wasn't gonna roll over. They obviously have some talent.
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  Speaker 1: George wasn't hitting his spots, and this is just the
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  Speaker 1: lineup to take advantage of that. You're not gonna hit
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  Speaker 1: your spots against the Toronto Blue Jays. They're gonna score
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  Speaker 1: double figures against you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean they have they have some really
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  Speaker 3: talented hitters. And they while they cooled off, Bryce cooled
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  Speaker 3: him off, and and for the most part, the pitching
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  Speaker 3: staff cooled him off in Game two two didn't necessarily
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  Speaker 3: let him get off the off the mat against George.
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  Speaker 3: It just is a it's a recipe for disaster if
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  Speaker 3: he's not locating, and and it just means because he
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  Speaker 3: pounds the zone.
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  Speaker 1: They know that he pounds the zone.
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  Speaker 3: They know that he trusts his stuff, and so he's
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  Speaker 3: gonna come after you with fast balls and sinkers, and
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  Speaker 3: and if he falls behind, there's a really good chance
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  Speaker 3: the next one's in the zone and he will miss
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  Speaker 3: over the plate versus miss off of the play because
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  Speaker 3: he trusts that his stuff is good enough. Well against
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  Speaker 3: this team, they were aggressive. They had a great game
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  Speaker 3: plan where they were just saying, hey, we're gonna go
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  Speaker 3: up there. I mean that third inning where it kind
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  Speaker 3: of started going off the rails. There wasn't a guy
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  Speaker 3: that saw more than three pitches. And in that bat
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  Speaker 3: I think with the exception of the Kirk walk where
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  Speaker 3: they had a base open, they basically uninttentionally around them,
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  Speaker 3: you know, was like base ope, we're go go go
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  Speaker 3: ahead and put him on so we can try to
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  Speaker 3: get that force at home. And so to me, it
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  Speaker 3: just was they executed a game plan and George didn't
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  Speaker 3: execute his. It's not that he needs to change his
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  Speaker 3: he just needs to execute. They executed, and that's the
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  Speaker 3: name of the game.
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  Speaker 1: I think in the.
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  Speaker 3: Playoffs, every pitch means more. You make a mistake, then
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  Speaker 3: it does the hitter capitalize on it. Last night they
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  Speaker 3: capitalized on it. When he made a mistake.
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  Speaker 1: They hurt him. I have such faith in our starting
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  Speaker 1: pitching and have for so long. Whenever I see one
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  Speaker 1: of our guys get tattooed that badly, and he got
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  Speaker 1: tattooed and it came out of nowhere. The first two innings,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't have all that left the infield. He had
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  Speaker 1: an infield single that he gave up that you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was just a high chopper. I mean, there's not
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  Speaker 1: much g Gino tried to rush the throw and ends
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  Speaker 1: up throwing it away, but he didn't. He got a
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  Speaker 1: lazy fly ball to center field, I guess to close
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  Speaker 1: out the second, but I mean, there was no indication
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  Speaker 1: that George was in store for any kind of struggle
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  Speaker 1: through those first two innings, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: I mean there wasn't a cheapie in the inning. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was just crush, crush, crush. Eight nine hitters are
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  Speaker 1: the ones that got it started. And Andre's Jimenez, who's
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  Speaker 1: outstanding defensively and not much of a hitter, ends up
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  Speaker 1: hitting the two run homer to tie it, and then
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  Speaker 1: it just wasn't over with. And so I'm such a
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  Speaker 1: big believer in this group. My immediate thought is he's
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  Speaker 1: tipping his pitches, and nobody hits George that hard if
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  Speaker 1: they don't know what's coming. I don't want to feel
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's it. There's any truth to that.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe there is some truth to that, but I can't
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  Speaker 1: just Hey, one of our guys gets hit. They must
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  Speaker 1: be figuring out what he's throwing. And then I went
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  Speaker 1: home because most of the games that I watch with
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners are from my television set. I don't usually
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  Speaker 1: watch them deep in right field, and so I get
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  Speaker 1: home and I see all the highlights and he was
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  Speaker 1: just everything right over the heart of the plate and
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  Speaker 1: they were murdering it. I mean, like Dalton var Show,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't even realize what a bullet he hit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I knew Guerrero's because Guerrero's almost is double almost took
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  Speaker 1: Gino's head off, and it hit off the wall. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, that's hit pretty hard. Yeah, But I mean
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  Speaker 1: the entire inning they just crushed him, and the entire
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  Speaker 1: inning after from the second to the third, he went
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  Speaker 1: from locating fine to not locating at all, and he
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  Speaker 1: paid and suffered the consequences. Yeah, it's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's the beauty of just sports in general, right,
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  Speaker 3: is that they're human. And while they show you over
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  Speaker 3: the course of a year, thirty starts or you know,
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  Speaker 3: multiple seasons how good they can be. Every single person
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  Speaker 3: is going to have a time at some point. You
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  Speaker 3: hope it's not in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna have a time where they're not on their game. Now,
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  Speaker 3: the difference is how many mistakes do you make versus
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  Speaker 3: how many mistakes do they make. And when I'm saying,
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  Speaker 3: I'm saying the pitchers making mistakes over the heart of
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  Speaker 3: the plate, because inevitably just comes out to numbers. If
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  Speaker 3: you make twenty mistakes over the heart of the plate
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  Speaker 3: against a good hitting team, which once you get to
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  Speaker 3: the final four of any sort of sport you have
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  Speaker 3: good teams, you then have good players on If you
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  Speaker 3: make twenty mistakes and they make ten, you're probably gonna lose.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it really can.
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  Speaker 3: You can simple it up to that, because even if
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  Speaker 3: you capitalize on eighty percent of years and they only
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  Speaker 3: capitalize on seventy percent, they are beating you at that
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  Speaker 3: point in time. I mean, it's just a matter of
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  Speaker 3: you're not gonna capitalize on every mistake. Nobody expects that,
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  Speaker 3: but at this point in time. That's why the precision
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  Speaker 3: and the attention to detail is so paramount.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to be having to throw.
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  Speaker 3: Extra pitches because you give extra outs, because sure enough,
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  Speaker 3: if you make a mistake at that point in time, boom,
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  Speaker 3: there's a two run homer. That wasn't the case necessarily
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  Speaker 3: last night.
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  Speaker 1: It was just George in that inning.
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  Speaker 3: They were going to ambush him, they were going to
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  Speaker 3: jump on him early in counts and he would either
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  Speaker 3: fall behind and then they know for sure, this dude
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  Speaker 3: doesn't go fall behind two. Oh, he's coming with something here.
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  Speaker 3: He's going to give me something good to hit. And
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  Speaker 3: sure enough they were on time and on plane and
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  Speaker 3: squared something up.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't there.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't get any balls that were hit hard right
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  Speaker 3: at anybody. And so, I mean, it's just the recipe
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  Speaker 3: for bad things to happen when you don't execute and
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  Speaker 3: the other team does. I mean, if you were in
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  Speaker 3: the middle of May, you might get away with a
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  Speaker 3: few more mistakes, or he definitely you don't. You're in
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  Speaker 3: the beginning of August, and you might get away with
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  Speaker 3: a few more mistakes. In the postseason. You're just not
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  Speaker 3: going to do it against a good hitting team that
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  Speaker 3: was quiet. The first couple of games found themselves painted
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  Speaker 3: into a corner to some degree and they were like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, boys, it's time we got to wake up.
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  Speaker 3: We're not going out there expecting Shane Bieber to shut
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  Speaker 3: him down. We know what George Kirby is going to
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  Speaker 3: try to do against us. We're going to go in
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  Speaker 3: with a good game plan and if he's hit missing
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  Speaker 3: over the heart of the plate, we're gonna crush him.
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  Speaker 3: And that's exactly what they did last night.
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  Speaker 5: I think we should have let him score forty three runs,
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  Speaker 5: just get it all out of their.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just drain the bucket.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, here, ye here, just batting.
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  Speaker 1: Practice, less fun. Yeah, it would have been a longer night.
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  Speaker 1: It was long enough night as it was.
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  Speaker 5: Actually, let's just wear them out now.
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  Speaker 1: Though, there is the question about where do you go
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  Speaker 1: with this rotation from here, because Brian Wu continues to
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  Speaker 1: be you know, every single series, every single sports talk
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  Speaker 1: radio show or baseball show is going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: an X factor a wild card, And sir, sure enough,
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  Speaker 1: we did it in our roundtable. Softy went around the room,
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  Speaker 1: watch the wild card in the first round. Well, here
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  Speaker 1: we are in the visional round, and I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I ever brought the question up, or excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: the Championship Series round. I don't know if I ever
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  Speaker 1: brought the question up. I don't know if I was
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  Speaker 1: ever asked a question. I think it was too obvious.
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  Speaker 1: It's Brian Wu, like, what is his availability? When is
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  Speaker 1: his availability? How good is he going to be if
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  Speaker 1: he gets called? And so now you have to consider
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  Speaker 1: what George just did and then having the possibility of
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  Speaker 1: Brian Wu returning, but not knowing how good he's going
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  Speaker 1: to be upon his return as you shape the rotation
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of the series. Blue Jays are back
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  Speaker 1: in this thing, and you just you got to plan
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  Speaker 1: for it to be a long series. And so the
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  Speaker 1: only thing we know for sure is that Luis Castillo
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  Speaker 1: is pitching tonight. That's obvious to everybody, as he should
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  Speaker 1: and maybe he should have pitched last night. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: But the only thing we know for sure is that
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  Speaker 1: he's going to pitch tonight. Beyond that, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: just the last thing that I heard last night about
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  Speaker 1: the Mariners was that maybe the Mariners aren't so convinced
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: that Brian Wu's going to start Game five after all,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: and that maybe he's gonna come out of the pen
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: for his first playoff appearance just to gauge how ready
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: he is and how Brian Wu like he actually is.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: But you do have the possibility here of Wu starting
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: in game five, and because you're the only organization left
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: that actually has five quality starters if Wu's healthy, I
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: mean the Brewers have one. No, the Brewers have one.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: We have five.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Now, if Wu's healthy, do you now looking to see
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: what happened with George last night? Do you go Wu five,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Miller six, and then Gilbert seven. I mean, I think
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the plan was going into the series that George is
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: pitching three and seven. Well, Game seven, with the way
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Toronto knocked George around, I mean, I trust George. If
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: we only had four starters, I'm bringing George Game seven.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna trust he pitches more like he did
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: against the Tigers than he did last night. But the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: truth of the matter is we have more than four starters.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: And now that Bryce looked so good in his last start,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think anybody should have any reservations
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: about him getting the ball in one of these remaining
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: games in the series. So if Wu's if they're going
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to roll the dice on WU being healthy in game
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: number five, Maybe George doesn't start again. Maybe he's the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: guy that comes out of the pen if you need
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: him in game six or game seven. It's possible.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: And I'm with you after the you know, yesterday during
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: the third inding, I think it was there was reports.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: I didn't notice it, but that Wu went out to
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: the bullpen, and so you know, Dan Wilson was asked
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: what was that all about? When what was the situation
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: in which you would have used him? And he played
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: it off as it was really more so of letting
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: him go out there and feel what it's like in
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: case that's the manner in which we use him. So
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: it brings in that and to your point of what
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: you've been a little bit concerned about since he's been injured,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: and when will they use him to kind of knock
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: the rust off and see exactly how he feels, because
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: I think you correct me if I'm wrong, but you're
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: a little concerned about if they bring him out there
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: to start and now it's just not right, the inflammation
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: and his peck flares up again. And now said you've
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: got eight innings or nine innings you have to cover
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: with your bullpen. I think they might have a little
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: bit of concern because while in his press conference he says,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: I feel good. The last thing that I need is
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: them to give me the ball, tell me, you know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: tell me when I'm pitching. He also says went to
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: answers Angie Mintig's question of what's your percentage of Well,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, nobody feels great at this point.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's not what I wanted to hear.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I wanted you to hear you say I've had
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: two weeks off, I feel one yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, give a heel, kicker.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't be too terribly surprised, honestly. I mean, you're
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: gonna have Luis today, you still are pretty much on
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: regular rest. If you were to then go Bryce in
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: game five and Logan Gilbert in game six if needed,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: and then and then you still.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Have George Kirby.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna sit here after
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: this and say George Kirby I don't trust him in
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: game seven, I still would even as bad as yesterday looked,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: because it was one of those they capitalized on in
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: just about every mistake in that third inning, and then
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: the dam broke, and next thing you know you're down
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: twelve to four.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm only saying it if Wo's gonna pick right,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: because we started this series with him saying tentatively he's
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: starting Game five. That's the only reason I'm bringing this up.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, if George has to pitch game seven. He
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: pitched Game five against Trek Scooble and he showed up right.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: But to see him get hit around a little bit,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: and knowing that we do have potentially little embarrassment of
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: riches this time of the year, I don't think it's
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: out of the question that we don't see George start
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: another game this series. But we'll find out. All right,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: we got a lot to discuss today. Let's find out
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: what's on tap for the rest of the show.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: On chucking, But what what's on te what's untech?
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: All right? Thirteen to four Jays over the MS coming
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: up at six thirty Mariners morning after we've been doing
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: it all season long. We're not going to shift now.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Luis Castillo versus Max Scherzer is the pitching matchup. We
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: will talk about Max Scherzer coming up on the show.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: That's an interesting story. Five thirty eight, First pitch there,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Game three of the NLCS will be played tonight as well,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: so doubleheader this evening. The Dodgers are up two to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: zero in that series and they get to go home
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to Los Angeles to face the Brewers. Cracking back in action.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: They still have not lost a game. Well, I guess
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: they did lose a game in overtime, but they got
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: a point. They still haven't played a game in which
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: they did not get a point. I was talking to
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Mike Betton a little bit last night because it's all
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: he thinks about, and he's like, they couldn't be off
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: to a better start under Lane Lambert. I mean, they
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: just love the guy. So let's carry that into Ottawa
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: tonight against the Senators. Sounders play their last regular season
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: game this weekend. The NBA starts on Tuesday. Oh, by
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the way, as if we didn't have enough to discuss,
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Husky's at Michigan on Saturday, Sophtie will join us at
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: seven oh five. We'll try to ask him a question
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: about the Huskies. Something tells me he just wants to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: talk Mariners, but we'll try to balance him out a
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: little bit. Nobody else has been able to. We'll give
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: it a shot. Seahawks Texans Monday Night football. This week
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Mike Sando will join us to preview Thursday Night football
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Steelers versus Bengals. So obviously a lot to accomplish today,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Mariners Morning After comes your way. Next, it's Chugging Buck
• 21:32
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• 21:37
  Speaker 6: Rodriget Stris Surfield is the high fly ball off to
• 21:47
  Speaker 6: the Bata Jimenez that's carrying well.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Who plays Jeames and watches a club?
• 21:52
  Speaker 7: It's the nine header and Joyce Hemenez fuck off people.
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Giving turn off to sue the desperately needed. It's tied
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: at two.
• 22:04
  Speaker 7: Got a chase, but it's a wad pitch and the
• 22:06
  Speaker 7: Blue Chase take the league. Varshot takes the high lines,
• 22:11
  Speaker 7: rut the right field, US rochards of a fall. Two
• 22:15
  Speaker 7: runs will score Farshot with a double. The Blue Jacks offenses.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: Come to life. Top five run.
• 22:22
  Speaker 7: Third, Glad Junior sends a high drive to deep center field.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: We rigas time it's gone. Cirk sends a fly ball
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: the other way. Roblays retreating to the truck to the
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: ns here hah.
• 22:36
  Speaker 7: Opposite field glass for Alejandro Kirk and a dozen for
• 22:40
  Speaker 7: the chase.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: On their fourth com hunt Fox Sports on the call
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of that bloodbath. Last night, the Blue Jays ended up
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: at one point, scoring twelve unanswered runs on the way
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to a thirteen to four convincing victory and Game number three,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: but have no heere. The Mariners had a little leg
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: up in the series. They won both games in Toronto
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and so still have a two games to one lead
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: in the series. Of the Blue Jays still have a
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: lot of work just to catch up to the MS.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Let's hope it never happens. Game number four will be
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: played tonight out at T Mobile. Luis Castillo gets the
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: ball for US. Max Scherzer will be starting for the
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: Toronto Blue Jays. We'll talk more about that pitching matchup
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: later on in this hour. First pitches at five thirty eight.
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: So the American League Championship Series rolls on right here
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: in Seattle. Mariners remain two precious wins away from the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: World Series. We're gonna talk more about that with our
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: next guest coming up here in a little bit, but
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: first let me rip through some headlines brought to you
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• 23:49
  Speaker 1: the Thursday night football game tonight. Pittsburgh's gonna be at Cincinnati.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: That gets the brand new week of the National Football
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: League season underway, a battle of forty plus year old
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks Rodgers versus y A Tittle. Also, the Seahawks are
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: in action this Monday night against the Houston Texans. Texans
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: off to a two and three start, but have the
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: number one defense by far in the National Football League.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: That Sam Darnold and company will have to contend with.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Husky's a huge game against the Michigan Wolverines in the
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Big House in ann Arbor this Saturday. It's another topic
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: we'll discuss with our very high profile next guest here
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: in a little bit. And the Kraken will be in
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: action against the Ottawa Senators tonight, their fourth game of
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: the season. They still have not played a game this
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: season without coming away with at least a point. Let's
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: see if they can keep that trek going tonight in Ottawa.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: But right now we have to talk to our lovable
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: co worker, friend and face of the franchise. It's David
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Softy Maler.
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it kind of helps when you turn the microphone on, Bucky,
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: but we don't blame you.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: After last night. What time did you guys hit the
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: sack last night? By the way, I.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Went to got in bed about eleven thirty and then
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: fellas about two thirty.
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, one of those Just stare at the wall
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: and just yeah, it was awesome. Over every little thing
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: from the game before. How did you handle it? I
• 25:14
  Speaker 8: thought I handled it okay, to be honest with you, you know,
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I'm sitting there watching this train wreck
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: unfold in front of my very eyes, and I'm thinking
• 25:24
  Speaker 8: to myself, I know, and this franchise knows exactly what
• 25:29
  Speaker 8: it's like to be doing what Toronto's doing, because in
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: two thousand and one, the Yankees came here and they
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: won two games in Seattle, and I remember waiting online
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: to get into the clubhouse. After game two. Lou Panella
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: comes walking by the media on his way to the
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: media room and says, we're going to bring up back
• 25:48
  Speaker 8: here for game six. And then they went to New
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: York and they hammered the Yankees in game three, just
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: like the Jays hammered us last night. And the Yankees
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: won a dramatic Game four, famous Game four. I got
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: scars from that Game four. And then they kicked our
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: ass in Game five and the series was over.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So we were.
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: Exactly in the same position the Blue Jays were in
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: twenty four years ago after winning a big Game three.
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: And I'm just kind of wondering if the Mariners had
• 26:16
  Speaker 8: lost Game one in Toronto but now won the last two, right,
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: what would the vibes feel like?
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Then? Well, I let let's hope for that same pattern.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry about what happened to you in two thousand
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: and one, but I'll take that exact game plans. Let's
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: do that.
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: Well, I mean, look, guys, here's the deal. And I'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: getting text from people, and I'm sure you're thinking the
• 26:38
  Speaker 8: exact same thing I am. Can we kind of agree
• 26:42
  Speaker 8: that it may have been better just to get our
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: ass kicked last night? If we're going to lose a
• 26:46
  Speaker 8: game three like that, let's not burn through bizarre O,
• 26:50
  Speaker 8: Let's not burn through brash, Let's not burn through spire munyos, whatever.
• 26:55
  Speaker 8: Let's have everybody available for game four. Just get drilled
• 26:59
  Speaker 8: in game three, Like, do you really give a damn
• 27:01
  Speaker 8: if you lose two to one or twelve to four,
• 27:04
  Speaker 8: whatever the hell the score was last night. This point
• 27:06
  Speaker 8: of the year, a freaking loss is a freaking loss, right, so.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Who gives a damn?
• 27:10
  Speaker 8: And I'm kind of wondering if, honestly, if you're gonna
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: lose the game, is that kind of the way you
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: want to go do it?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: For sure?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: There's no doubt, I mean, because you didn't have to
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: blow through anybody while you're in the middle of playing
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: a back to back to back home series. I mean,
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: I am wondering. I mean, it sounds like you're handling this.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Very well, which is very very adultaprising well, I uh, look.
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: Man, I mean sitting there in the stands, that was
• 27:35
  Speaker 8: no fun, and I was like living in the moment,
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: you know, kind of with everybody else, you know, kind
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: of cursing Wilson beyond belief.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: What the hell is the guy doing? Blah blah blah.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Got him out of there.
• 27:44
  Speaker 8: But I mean, I just again, you know, you're you're
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: allowed to be emotional during things like this.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: You're allowed to be logical during things like this.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: And you go home and you clear your head and
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: maybe you think about it a little bit. You know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: you're not really using your brain when you're at the park.
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: You're kind of using your heart a little bit more
• 27:58
  Speaker 8: than your head. And then you get home and you think,
• 28:00
  Speaker 8: all right, well, the guy was at twenty four pitches
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: after two innings, which is perfect, right.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, that is just a phenomenal start by George Kirby.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: And then boom, the wheels fell off the bus fast
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: with that first day b in the top of the
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: third with that double by Clement, and then you're thinking, okay,
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: you know, maybe at five to two you could have
• 28:18
  Speaker 8: yanked him. I would have probably yanked him at six
• 28:21
  Speaker 8: to two, guys, to be honest with you, after the Springer,
• 28:24
  Speaker 8: Homer thinking, ye ah, right, with the Jay's bullpen, you
• 28:27
  Speaker 8: still maybe have a shot to come back from a
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: full run deficit. But you know, once he started wearing
• 28:32
  Speaker 8: it even more, you just kind of threw in the
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: towel at that point, and you're just making sure you
• 28:37
  Speaker 8: don't have to burn any real legit arms.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Out of the bullpen.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: So again, I just got to think that this decision,
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: and let's go back to the decision in game number
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: two to start Logan Gilbert over Luis Castillo because Castillo,
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: and you guys correct me if I'm wrong, his last
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: start was last Monday, October the fifth.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: You threw fifteen pitches and.
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: That game Friday night against the Tigers in the fifteen
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: in game, which you could just assume was kind of
• 29:05
  Speaker 8: a bullpen day for him. So they could have started
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: him Monday in Toronto, but they didn't want to get
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: him on the road. They wanted to keep him away
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: from the Rogers Center, where his splits on the road
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: are ridiculous compared to his home two point six at
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: home four point seven era on the road. So the
• 29:20
  Speaker 8: decision to save Luis Castillo for to day. We're about
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: to find out from Dan Wilson today if that was
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: the right call, and a better Dan well be the
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: right call.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: It feels like a good matchup, feels like a favorable matchup. Sure,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: he's been really bad over his last six starts of
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: the regular season, but how do you map it out?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you take anything from the Kirby onslaught
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and with the Wu factor existing here and now suddenly
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller, I'm not sure we don't want to give
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: him the ball. I think we all maybe want to
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: give him the ball again before the series comes to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: a close. So looking beyond, we know Castillo's starting tonight
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: last night changed the way that you would structure the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: rest of the series starting pitching. Well, I think, if.
• 30:05
  Speaker 8: If Luis Castillo doesn't have it tonight, I think Brian
• 30:08
  Speaker 8: Wu's coming in out of the pen. That's my call tonight.
• 30:11
  Speaker 8: In this game, I think, I think you got to
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: go to Brian Wu today. I mean, this is this
• 30:16
  Speaker 8: is you know I thought yesterday again. I know, logically
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: technically it's not a do or die game. I wanted
• 30:22
  Speaker 8: them to approach it like it was a do or
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: die game and act like they were down oh two,
• 30:25
  Speaker 8: and go get the three to zero lead and deal
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: a death blow to Toronto and just finish them off.
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: But I don't want nothing to do man with going
• 30:32
  Speaker 8: back to Toronto, and I certainly want nothing to do
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: with letting those guys tie this thing up at two
• 30:37
  Speaker 8: games apiece. So I would approach Luiska Stillo tonight exactly
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: almost the way that the Mariners approached Logan Gilbert on Monday,
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: and the way the Blue Jays approached Shane Bieber in
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: Game three of their Yankee series. You know, after a
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: couple innings, if it's if it's obvious that the big
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: guy doesn't have it, I'd get Brian wu up, and
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: I'd have them ready to go and to ready to
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: enter this game as early as maybe the second or
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: the third inning, because they've they've got to win this
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: game tonight, Chuck. For exactly the point that you just made,
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: You've got Luis Castillo versus Max Fings Scherzer. This would
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: be a huge gift for Toronto to win this game tonight.
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: You can't let that happen.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Well, it's gonna be tonight. Yeah, Yeah, I think he
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: will too, man, I think so.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know if he's gonna be perfect.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: This team can hit, but I think that we should
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: be able to outdo our offen, should be able to
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: outdo theirs.
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, so, it sounds like you're in the right frame.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Of mind, and I'm proud of you for that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 8: That could change in an hour, by the way, I
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: know we're jumping online and reading social media and blah
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: blah blah.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: That could change in an hour.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and yet I don't I mean, if if things
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: were to not go according to plan tonight and then
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: you find yourself tied up, then I'm certain that you
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: and a bunch of other people here in Seattle will
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: But I mean when it comes to a couple guys,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: I mean trying to find silver linings in this whole.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, Randy goes deep. It would be nice to
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: get him going. Geno Toatson ball hard.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: That would be nice to get him going because I
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: think that you we have a better pitching staff and
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: we could go out there and shove against these guys
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: just like we did the first couple of games. There's
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: an opportunity though, this group of hitters you're going against
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: that they could score four or five a game against
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: whoever you're putting out there, or maybe a couple guys
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: in the bullpen or whatever it might be. So how
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: are you feeling about just the hitters and what you
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: think maybe they can do the rest of the series.
• 32:31
  Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing, Bucky, And again, this is what
• 32:34
  Speaker 8: I'm talking about when you're talking about just being emotional
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: and living in the moment and all that stuff. And
• 32:39
  Speaker 8: you know, am I glad that Randy went yard last night?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: But I'd like to see him do it in a
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: different spot besides down ten nothing or turn two. Whatever
• 32:48
  Speaker 8: the hell the score was last night? Was it twelve two?
• 32:51
  Speaker 8: When he hit that? Momb had twelve two? I got
• 32:53
  Speaker 8: no idea. So look, I mean, if that's him heating up,
• 32:57
  Speaker 8: if that's him finding something for today's game, then great,
• 33:01
  Speaker 8: But if not, no, I'm not going to get jacked
• 33:03
  Speaker 8: up at all about a guy going yard down ten
• 33:06
  Speaker 8: and basically pop in a meaningless bomb when the game
• 33:10
  Speaker 8: was over.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: So I need to see more from him.
• 33:12
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean, we know the Mariner offense is
• 33:15
  Speaker 8: much different on the road than they are at home.
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: They have been all year long, I mean, and that's
• 33:20
  Speaker 8: why last night was so disappointing out of George Kirby,
• 33:23
  Speaker 8: and it's why I kind of feel good about Luis
• 33:26
  Speaker 8: Castillo tonight. First of all, you know when was the
• 33:28
  Speaker 8: last time well, I mean, going back to the Mets
• 33:30
  Speaker 8: and Phillies trip, obviously, you know the idea of seeing
• 33:34
  Speaker 8: these guys just get raked for three games in a row,
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: Logan Gilbert, George Kirby, and now Luis Castillo. I would
• 33:40
  Speaker 8: bet money against that happening. And the number two, the
• 33:43
  Speaker 8: pitching staff at home has been balls all year long.
• 33:46
  Speaker 8: So if I can't count on a guy in Luis
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: Castillo who's got a split of home versus road of
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: over two freaking runs to deliver in the biggest game
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: of the year, then when count I count on that, right.
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: So I don't think this will be a high scoring game.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: I don't think the Mariners offense is capable consistently of
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: putting up a lot of runs in that ballpark, but
• 34:08
  Speaker 8: traditionally nobody is. I know the Blue Jays did it
• 34:11
  Speaker 8: last night, but you know, let's hope that was just
• 34:13
  Speaker 8: kind of a flash in the pan. So I'm not
• 34:16
  Speaker 8: expecting Bucky the offense to do fireworks tonight. What I'm
• 34:19
  Speaker 8: expecting is another nail bier, just like we had in
• 34:22
  Speaker 8: Game four of that Yankees series in two thousand and one.
• 34:26
  Speaker 8: I think you're going to see a tight game and
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: the seventh inning, and I think, hopefully in the end
• 34:30
  Speaker 8: knock on wood. The idea that you were able to
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: rest all your good arms in the bullpen last night
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: will pay dividends tonight in the seventheithh to night.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Tonight and tomorrow, because now you can use all four
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: of your best guys the next two nights. Softie is
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: with us here on checkerback in the morning. He always
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: joins us every Thursday Thursdays with Softy Sports Radio ninety
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: three point three KHRFM normally we talk Huskies and so
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: we do need a couple of minutes. I mean is
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: a huge game, I mean huge. Jetfish does get his
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: you know, road win in the Big Ten, his road
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: win number one, and then his road win in the
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Big Ten. So he's knocked a couple things off the
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: list of things he has to get accomplished this season.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: But he really needs a big, nice, fat win that
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: gets notice and that could come this weekend at Michigan.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: So how big do you think this game is for
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: the Jetfish program? Well, here's here's what I think, man.
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: I think there's a lot of people out there that
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: have a lot of fantasies about what Husky football could
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: do this year, and if they win this game Saturday
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: at Michigan, a lot of those people that have those
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: fantasies are going to get louder and louder and louder
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: with their take about the college football playoff. Honestly, you
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: win this game and you're six and one, and you're
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: looking at Okay, a bad UCLA team, a bad Purdue team,
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: a bad Wisconsin team that's nine wins right there.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: Illinois's coming to town.
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: They've proven that they can get smacked by anybody. They're
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: a good team, but they've also proven they may not
• 35:58
  Speaker 8: be a great team. And they're coming to town. That's
• 36:01
  Speaker 8: ten wins right there. And then all of a sudden
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: you're talking about, Hey, is that Duck game in November
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: maybe gonna be for a spot in the College Football Playoff?
• 36:10
  Speaker 8: I mean a ten to two Big Ten team? Does
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: that team get left out of the tournament? So I
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: think this is a huge fork on the road game
• 36:19
  Speaker 8: for you, but a huge fork on the road game
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: for Jed Fish because I just look at the rest
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: of the schedule and I just think, again, Ucla, Perdue, Wisconsin,
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: Illinois at home. Those are games the Huskies probably should win.
• 36:31
  Speaker 8: And that's ten wins guys, right there, ten before the
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: game with the Ducks.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: So this game is everything. Yeah, yeah, unbelievable.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, how confident do you feel going into the
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: Big House? I mean a road game is one thing
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: against Rutgers, but I mean a road game in the
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: Big House is a different ball game.
• 36:50
  Speaker 8: Well, I've never seen a victory there as a fan,
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: so I'm not going to this one. I'm staying home, right,
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: I'm taking one for the team. Every time I go
• 36:57
  Speaker 8: to Michigan, weird things happen. Twelve men in the field,
• 37:00
  Speaker 8: we got our ass kicked by somebody, blah blah blah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: The last time we were there was the well Mike
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: McDonald was the the DC from Michigan and he kicked
• 37:09
  Speaker 8: our ass. And that's the day that Dick Beard quit,
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: by the way, last time he went to Michigan to
• 37:14
  Speaker 8: take on the Wolverine. So I've had a lot of
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: bad memories from those from those those games in that stadium.
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: So I'm I'm staying home for this one.
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: But I feel, you know, I feel better about it
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: because they got a freshman quarterback in Bryce Underwood.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Bucky. I'm not sure how ready he is.
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: I think he might be a really good player down
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: the road, but I mean, my god, I would take
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: Demon Williams as a red shirt freshman one hundred times
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: out of one hundred over Bryce Underwood right now as
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: a true freshman. And you look at Michigan, man, this
• 37:40
  Speaker 8: is not the same defense that we saw a couple
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: of years ago play the Huskies for the national title.
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: They're eleventh in the Big Ten in total defense, thirteenth
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: and the Big Ten in past defense. They are third
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: and rushing, but then they gave up one hundred and
• 37:53
  Speaker 8: sixty yards to a freaking walk on last week against
• 37:56
  Speaker 8: USC So this might be the week that Jonah Coleman
• 37:59
  Speaker 8: starts going. Is he really hasn't done much, by the
• 38:01
  Speaker 8: way in the Big Ten. He's like sixteenth in rushing
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: yards in Big Ten games only after three games. So
• 38:07
  Speaker 8: it's time to get number one going. So I'm not
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: saying I'm overly cocky about walking into Michigan and getting
• 38:12
  Speaker 8: a victory, but I feel a lot better about it
• 38:14
  Speaker 8: now than I would have two or three years ago.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, you better get cocky. We need some we
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: need cocky hand Do.
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: I need to get cocky? I need Louis Castillo to
• 38:24
  Speaker 8: get cocky. I need Louis Castillo to go out there
• 38:28
  Speaker 8: like he's the best freaking picture, walk in the face
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: of the freaking earth and shove it right up there,
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: kannuck asses tonight.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: That's what I need.
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: And by the way, did you guys notice that there
• 38:38
  Speaker 8: was a lot less Blue Jay fans in the stands
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: last night than there normally is for a regular season game.
• 38:43
  Speaker 8: You know what, though every single one of them was
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: in My god, darn section, every single one, including some
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: Jackwagon that was in full blue Jay gear pants and
• 38:53
  Speaker 8: uniform and hat. Godoni, sons of bitches. I'll send you
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: a picture, Bucky. You would have knocked this guy yeat,
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: just on principle. Yeah, yeah, he can't work for he
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: was a freaking cup and some iblack.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: Not good. We have to win just to beat that guy. Yeah.
• 39:14
  Speaker 8: I don't know what it is about these Canadians man
• 39:17
  Speaker 8: with their little.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Beady eyes and they're flappy gum off. Yeah, I hear you.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I wanted to fight everybody. All right, man, Well we'll
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: see you later on today. How about that? Okay, buddy,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: good job last night, guys. Hey, thank you David Softy
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Maller joining us here every Thursday to talk some husky football.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: But of course he's got other things on his mind
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: right now. All right. Coming up next on the program
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Factor Fiction Plus, we will discuss Max Scherzer. I've been
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: teasing this for like three straight segments. We might as
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: well get that done. Next. Sports Radio ninety three point
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: three kJ rfm's Hard and social Media, because that's kind
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: of what social media is that you want. They want
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: you to take pictures and send them out. So I'm
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: trying to do my best yesterday. And so I'm trying
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: to take a photo of some scene outside the ballpark
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: yesterday as I get to the stadium four hours early
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: for goodness sake, and I'm trying to size up my
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: photo and I'm not good at taking pictures. And there's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: three people that I start walking into the frame and
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I'm like, good lord, get out of the way.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to take a picture.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: And I take down my phone and it's Tim Kirkchin,
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Karl Ravich, and Edward O. Perez. Oh just snap that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: One, Okay, Yeah, maybe not a dad far.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Might I might have and didn't even realize it. You
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: never know what you're gonna see him baseball. I'm just
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: walking out of the stadium and there's this guy trying.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: To take a picture of something entirely different.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: He suddenly he's taking photos of me and Carl and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: his hair piece. He told me to get the hell
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: out of the way. You got yelled after just walking
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to the ballpark. That's Tim for you. That's Kirkchon all right,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: ABC's of DMS. We left off of the letter D yesterday.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: D is for Dingers all dingers have different kind of
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: values to them. There's no question about it. Jimenez his
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: dinger had a pretty good value to it yesterday turns
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: out Julio's not so much. But I'm wondering the value
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: that we could potentially place on what seemed like a
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: meaningful moment in a thirteen to four blowout. Yesterday, Randy
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: rose Arena finally hit a home run. It's his first
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: and one hundred and seven at bats. It's been a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: long time since Randy has felt that groove, that swing
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: to put on a baseball where it leaves the yard.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, he hit twenty seven of them during the
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: course of the season, looked like he was well on
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: his way to a thirty thirty season, and he ends
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: up not hitting another home run for a month and
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: it's extended into the playoffs. I mean, this is a
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: guy that has authored one of the greatest postseasons in
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: the history of baseball. That he has just I mean,
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: he's had a couple walks here and a hit by
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: pitch and some stolen bases, and he's made a nice
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: defense grab in Toronto, but he's not doing damage. Does
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: what kind of value do you place on a guy
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: that's accustomed to doing damage with his bat hasn't done
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: it for a while. And even if it was a
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: meaningless home run late in the game, does that potentially
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: remind Randy a Rose Arena in his mechanics of Oh,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: that's how it's done. Okay, don't worry, guys, I got it.
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: Now it can It doesn't guarantee it, and I hope
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: it does, because, yeah, I mean it. You can go
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: from scuffling, and he has been scuffling. He hasn't been
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: contributing as much as we would like. Now he's had
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: some moments that have been helpful in some of these wins.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: Played eight games and you've won more than you've lost,
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: and so you know, he's gotten some hit by pitches
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: or some walks and some decent abs and stole some
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: bags and scored some runs, but he hasn't done the damage.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: And a lot of times it does take for sometimes
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: guys that aren't supposed to hit for power. JP Crawford
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: in particular, he'll hit one out and you've said it before, like,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: oh no, now he's going to try to do that again.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: I told the guy in Detroit, the beat writer sitting
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: next to men I said, well, if you're rooting for
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: the Tigers to win this game, don't worry about JP
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: Crawford anymore. He's done for the playoffs.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: There's times and he will we'll get into.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: A little bit of shit. A home run and now
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: he's a home run. I like doing that.
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, God, I like doing it too. But certain guys
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: should try and certain guys shouldn't. I think Randy's kind
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: of a He's a mixture, right. He's a guy that
• 43:32
  Speaker 3: can hit, but he's a guy that has some serious
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: pop too, And you put him the lineup because you
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: want him to do damage, but you also want him
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: to be a catalyst for the guys behind him. And
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: he hasn't been doing that part, or the doing damage part,
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: very well. So yeah, it can. It can turn into
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: you take a swing and you're like, ooh, that's because
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: that's basically what he went to sleep with was that swing.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It was a good pitch to hit.
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: He had taken one in the exact same spot earlier
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: in the bat. He took strike one right down the middle,
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: took strike two in that up and in spot a
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: little bit, and then later on in the ab got
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: that same pitch and capitalize on it.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: It can be a Okay, that felt right. I get
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: with that. Obviously it felt right.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: But if it clicks, then yeah, you could see you
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: could see a little bit of a turnaround.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: That would be hugely important. Let's have that.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Do you like the way I pronounced Dingers Dingers? Not really?
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: You just don't mess with home run glossary terms around this.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: You know you better say it the right way. You
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: better should.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: Dingers and made me immediately go to, like, oh, Dingers,
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: like Dingler.
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: That's what I did think up to is Dylan Dingler first,
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: But then I realized what you were doing, and I
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: thought it was.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: He is for e Walk. I realized that Vladimir Guerrero
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Junior is the most intimidating presence in the Toronto Blue
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Jays lineup. But man, that e Walk that they put
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: it catcher, Uh, he is just he is just he
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: has a rough customer. I mean, he worries me as
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: much as Vladimir Guerrero Junior in a big moment. Yeah,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: he just knows how to hit. He just gets the
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: back to the ball. He's he's like al Tuove but fatter, Yeah,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: like a lot fatter.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: It's like all two Vays next to each other.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like two AL three ve maybe AL fourve.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah he does. He worries me too. Him.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: He's and he hasn't been hitting most of this postseason.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: And yet there was an ab in one of the
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: games in Toronto where he went the other way line
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: drive the other way, and I'm like, oh, because he's
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: he understands the the length through the zone and that's
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: why he is as good of a hitter as he is.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: He's not just a pole guy, but he also is
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: swinging to do damage on a regular basis, and he
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: gets that chubby Ewok body behind it and hit it out.
• 45:47
  Speaker 5: Also, I feel like the Ewoks are way cuter. That's
• 45:50
  Speaker 5: kind of an insult. Oh, they're adorable. Yeah, Wicked is
• 45:54
  Speaker 5: the cutest Ewok of all time.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I know I'm going to get a bunch of hate
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: mail from ewalks.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Wicked because he does have.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: A big I'm sorry Walk community.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: And for the record, no one on my Pool League
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: team has a worse physique than that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: I think Ryan Heally had some really gross assumptions.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: It was really fair.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: I don't really know. He thinks all my friends are chubby.
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: Like, well, to be fair, it was at a pool league,
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: so it's what you don't really think of, like athletic
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: prowess at the bar.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: Plain pool you don't. Yeah, well that was the point.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah exactly. I still think that Poorhouse number one before.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: It's not like he was just like, oh do you
• 46:33
  Speaker 5: think Bucky's friends are all fat?
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: What it is? I wasn't exactly setting a high bar
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: for their physiques, yeah, exactly, comparing them to all and
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: he were sitting a very low bar, and he thought,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: that's beneath that. Yeah, I don't appreciate. I love how
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: your rallied did. The defense of your buddies really means
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: a lot to deserve.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: They appreciated it.
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: And finally is for fresh. I mean, all this consternation
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: about Brian Wu will be right once this number is called.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, is there a chance that a couple of
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: weeks off and little wear and tear and the peck's
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: perfectly fine and he comes out fresher than ever when
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: he does pitch again, Oh, more fresher than we've seen him.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you this about Brian Wu. He is very
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: self aware of like how the whole machine works. That
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: is Brian Wu. I mean, remember all last year and
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: he'd take himself out of games. I guess something's not right,
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: something's not right. I mean he never went he never
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: really got to the point like he was injured for
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: any really amount of time last year, but he was
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: aware enough of when his body was out of sync
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that to avoid serious injury. I think I need to
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: shut this downskip. So is there a chance that maybe
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: this guy just knows his body really well, and if
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: he's telling us I'm ready to go, we're gonna see
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: the freshest Brian Wu we've seen since the all start.
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: There's a possibility. I don't know, and I wish I did.
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: I wish that, you know, they would just be one
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: hundred percent truthful and that they kind of can't and
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: don't necessarily want to, because you're not gonna say, oh,
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: I feel better than I've ever felt, and you're obviously
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: then you're also not going to be like, I'm not
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent, but I'm ready to rock and roll.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I don't one really prescribe to the idea of rust.
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: And I don't.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I just don't because I've I've done it myself. I've
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: missed months of time and then been a little bit
• 48:19
  Speaker 3: worried about. Man, this is I'm jumping right back into
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: the fire, and felt great when I did it. And
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: then there's been other times that I've struggled right out
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: of the gate, and I don't necessarily think, well, that's
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: because of that, or it's because of that success or failure.
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: Sometimes it just happens. And yet I wouldn't be surprised
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: one bit if he comes out in the first opportunity.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: He gets just absolutely most people down.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: He does it more often than not.
• 48:41
  Speaker 5: He don't ask me, just so question clean that's what
• 48:45
  Speaker 5: he's gonna say when he walks out there.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Oh he does, I do too, because first of all,
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: that'd be a really great take on your part. Make
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: a promo out of that if he does that, I will, Okay,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Ashley was Ashley was on that before it even happened.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: All Right. We got Ryan Heay coming up at nine
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: o'clock in another a second day of surprise surprise for
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: Ryan Healey as well, coming up at nine o'clock today.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, speaking of f FS for Phish because
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Jed Fish has a big game this Saturday. Sports Radio
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: ninety three point three KH a RFM. So Ryan Bucket
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: salute takes place every show. Now, Yep, pretty cool. Well,
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I don't think anybody would deny this. I mean, we
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: are very happy Ryan Healey has been a part of
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: our post game coverage here and I think all of
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: our listeners really like Ryan Heally. And we are getting
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: so comfortable with avon Ryan Healey on our radio program
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: that we surprise. We surprised him yesterday by introducing the
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: old Judge, and today we offer another surprise for Ran
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: Healy joining us with Ryan this morning is a fella
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: he happens to know. Kevin Palar is joining us. Former
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Blue Jay meets former Mariner on our radio show this morning,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: and so we're gonna have them both here to break
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: down the American League Championship Series? Are we not? The
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: fullest surprise is Healey? How about this?
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: Were you guys mingling the media room yesterday?
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: How'd you get kpd on here?
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: He should be sleeping right now. It was the first
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: person I met in the press box yesterday.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Right at you?
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it was kind of it was organic.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: We were talking and he asked me to come on
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: the radio show, and I said, yeah, I think I
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: can make it happen. And then he just kept talking.
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, we have Ryan, And I was looking
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: at his credential and I'm like, I know that credential
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: and cause we mean, you just talked the night before.
• 50:52
  Speaker 4: And then I started explaining on my drive home we
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: were chatting and that we were gonna shack up together.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: He made it up we were gonna be we were
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: gonna we're gonna and I was like, that's how close
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: we are. I was gonna share the bed with this guy.
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: What's the text that I sent you back when you
• 51:08
  Speaker 9: said that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: That you were Big Spoon or Little Spoon.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: I can't remember my DIBs on Little Spoon argues for
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: Little Spoon.
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: Heey, well, it's funny because he's bigger than me.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had marching orders Ryan. My boss was like, hey,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have like a Toronto feel on
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: your show. Everything's been great, but let's do can we
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: get a Toronto spin on it? And he shows me
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: the list of people. I said, Kevin Polar is working
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: for them. I mean he played this year. He just
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: like retired like fifteen minutes ago. He would be great
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: to get on. So first person, I run into is
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Kevin Polar in the press box. We start having a conversation.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: I tell him about your story with us. He goes,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: that's like one of my best friends in the world
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: right there. And so here we are. We're all together.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: How about that, Polar? See how magic radio is.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: Yes, I got up early for you guys.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: I appreciate it.
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: No, it's not really early. Trust me, newborn at home.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: This is me. Slipping into eight is like a dream
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: come true.
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: Well all right, well let's let's get your analysis here.
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: So I'll start with our guest Ryan, and then you
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: can just piggyback off of what he says. What did
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: it mean to the Blue Jays to show up yesterday
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Kevin and remind people, hey, we can hit the hell
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: out of the ball.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I honestly think it was a series
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: altering victory for them.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I think if they go in and you know, find
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: a way scratching Claude to get a win, maybe a
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: three two game. I think the Mariners are sitting over
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: in their dugout talking about maybe a pitch here, or
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: in a bat here, or maybe a defensive play here
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: where you know, maybe they still feel like they could
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: have won that game. Maybe that's one that got away.
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: But I think there was definitely a look in the
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: mirror moment for the guy, the Mariners guys going into
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: the clubhouse yesterday with how dominant the Blue Jays were,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: not only from the pitching side, but from the offensive
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: side too. You know, coming here, you listen to all
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: the TV shows, the radio shows. You know they were
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: talking about sweet sweet. You know, the Mariners did everything
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: they needed to do when they went into Toronto. They
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: stole two games there. They won game two very decisively.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: They looked like the better team, and it looked like
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: Toronto had their tail between their legs. The Mariners had
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: their pitching lined up for, you know, their first big
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: playoff game in twenty four years, a rowdy, excited crowd,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: and the Blues Is just decisively handed it to them.
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: And I think it kind of really flipped the narrative
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: and potentially a little bit of the momentum in this
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: series to the opposite.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Dugout, Wait, make it that.
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: Here's the hard here's the hard part about bringing Kevin
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: on the show today after what was it a thirteen
• 53:50
  Speaker 9: to two absolute well, thirteen to four, but who when
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: we had two homers there late in the game. But
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: you know, here's the challenge here is we went to
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: Toronto and felt like we shocked the Blue Jays fans
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: in our home stadium. Came back home, Julio hit that
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: home run the first inning and the crowd was as
• 54:03
  Speaker 9: loud as I've ever heard them. And then all of
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: a sudden, Bieber came out and answered and silenced that
• 54:09
  Speaker 9: team with striking out the side in the second inning.
• 54:11
  Speaker 9: And I felt like, in playoff baseball, you can generate
• 54:14
  Speaker 9: and keV, you can attest this. You can generate momentum
• 54:17
  Speaker 9: on both sides of the baseball. And Bieber stepped up
• 54:19
  Speaker 9: for the Blue Jays yesterday and he came out, he
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: made adjustment c XQ pitches. He looked like himself, the
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: guy from the Cleveland Guardians that you and I faced
• 54:27
  Speaker 9: a lock keep. When he's mixing that fastball, slider, cutter, curveball, calmbok,
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: he's deadly. And then the bats came alive. I didn't
• 54:33
  Speaker 9: feel like the Blue Jays had poor bats in Game one.
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: In Game two, I felt like there was a lot
• 54:37
  Speaker 9: of loud barrels right at the defenders. So we knew
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: that they were gonna get hot. This is a team
• 54:41
  Speaker 9: that led the major leagues and batting average, third in doubles,
• 54:45
  Speaker 9: and manufactured a ton of runs all season long. This
• 54:48
  Speaker 9: team has a lot of fight left in him. This
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: series is going to be a dog fight till the end.
• 54:52
  Speaker 9: The fact that the Mariners came out and got a
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: lead early and shock them was big. But now they're
• 54:56
  Speaker 9: a little shocked right now and they have an opportunity
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: to respond.
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, idea of getting off to a good start in
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Toronto obviously is important. And yet I didn't think this
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: was going to be a sweep.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: I didn't.
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to be an easy series.
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: It's you're down to the final four teams and it's
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: going to be a battle uphill. I would wonder, like Kevin,
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: I'll go to you first and then you can respond
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: to it as well. Hey, I mean, when you're going
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: up against a guy like George Kirby, what they it
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: looked to me like they were doing was they were
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: aggressive early. You know a guy that's going to pound
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: the zone, he trusts his stuff, and yet they just
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: weren't letting him get off or get away with any mistakes.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Left over the heart.
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: Is that something that you know that the Blue Jays
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: were preaching because it looked like it.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's a matter of fact. All eighteen
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: hits came within the first three pitches of the bat.
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: And when you have a guy like George Kirby, who
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: you know historically is in the strike zone, loves to throw,
• 55:49
  Speaker 4: you know, strike one of the zone has elite stuff.
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: The way you beat elite pitching in this game, you
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: you have two ways when you have these hitters meetings.
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: You go into this hitters meeting and you say, were
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: they going to get him or he's gonna get us?
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: But we're going to do it early, because if you
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: get the two strikes, his arsenal is too good to
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: really overcome. So the Blue Jays had a really distinct
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: plan to attack early. I don't know if you guys
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: heard John Snyder's press conference pregame. He was talking about
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: less jabs, more uppercuts, you know, and that's code for, Hey,
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: we need to sit on pitches and be aggressive and
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: when you get your pitch, don't be afraid to swing it.
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: The Blue Jays have this superpower as a team to
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: put the ball in play and they are going to
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: continue to do that, but it's how they put the
• 56:34
  Speaker 4: ball in play. They emphasize not necessarily swinging for the penfenses,
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: but getting a good pitch and trying to drive the
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: ball and void did they answer?
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: Kevin, You talked about this a little bit on another
• 56:46
  Speaker 9: show you did recently about the team wide execution of
• 56:50
  Speaker 9: approach and how there's been some teams in the playoffs
• 56:52
  Speaker 9: that do it better than others. And yesterday was an
• 56:54
  Speaker 9: absolute clinic by the Toronto Blue Jays of let's execute
• 56:57
  Speaker 9: a team wide approach. I mean, eighteen hits from the
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: first three pitches. I heard that stat. I did a
• 57:01
  Speaker 9: radio show late last night and I heard that sat
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: and I was shocked. I couldn't believe it. It was impressive.
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: But there was two at bats that I thought were
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: really decisive for the Toronto Blue Jays offense.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: It was Vladimir.
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: Guerrero's at bat that double hit through the left field
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: wall in that third inning he threw he got two
• 57:15
  Speaker 9: hanging sliders. George Kirby did not have the same feel
• 57:18
  Speaker 9: for that slider that he has this whole postseason. And
• 57:20
  Speaker 9: then the kirk Get bat when he walked him with
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: runners on second and third. He was trying to get
• 57:25
  Speaker 9: that sinker to clip the outside corner. He had a
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: really hard time commanding his pitchers at the glove side
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: on right handed hitters, which is the outside corner. He
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: couldn't get that sinker to come back, and the slider
• 57:35
  Speaker 9: just kept kind of spinning in the middle of the play.
• 57:37
  Speaker 9: And when you cannot command the outer half of the
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: zone and the hitters able to split the split the
• 57:42
  Speaker 9: plate in half and really sit on one part of it,
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: it's really really dangerous for a pitcher that day.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there was guys, you know, Ernie Clement, whole guy,
• 57:51
  Speaker 4: kind of a free swinger, ambushed the first pitch sinker
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: in for the double to kind of get the wheels
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: going a little bit, you know, andres him Andez hit
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: the two run homer where he said he was just
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: trying to move the run over and talk about this
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: kind of team approach. Sometimes when you do less, you
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: do more. You know, the Vladia bat you were talking about,
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: he took the first slider in that at bat and
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: kind of didn't even offer at it as a way
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: of kind of like saying, throw it again, you know.
• 58:17
  Speaker 4: I hope you throw it again. George Springer, first pitch,
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: homer four, se him up in the zone, got it.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Like guys, you talk about having this collective approach, which
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: you've seen through the Toronto Blue Jays the entirety of
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: the year, and if you kind of flip the script
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: to the Mariners, they're a team that just kind of
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: relies a lot on the home run, a little bit
• 58:38
  Speaker 4: more free swinging. I don't have the statistics in front
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: of me, but what I've seen through the first games
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: was all the kind of small things that you would
• 58:47
  Speaker 4: want to do right from a team approach. The Blue
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: Jays kind of led every statistic, but when it came
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: to like slug and home runs, you saw the Mariners
• 58:55
  Speaker 4: like the swing amiss. The strikeouts were all in favor
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: of the Mariners. So it's very interesting that trasting styles
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: of both of these teams.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I know one statistic Mariner's two games of Blue Jays won.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: That's a pretty important statistic. At this point, Kevin Malar
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: is with us, former Blue Jay and former Mariner Ryan
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Heay with us on the same show. Turns out their
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: best buddies, and they're joining us here this morning to
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: talk about the American League Championship Series. So it feels
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: to me like momentum is just something that's like a
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: figment of our imagination in this sport, this time of year. So, Ryan,
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: even though Mariners get stomped yesterday by this lineup, what
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: kind of chance do you give Luis Castillo just to
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: reverse that momentum here tonight.
• 59:39
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna let Kevin touch on the realities of momentum
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: because he's played some big posts and games. But just
• 59:45
  Speaker 9: as an unwritten rule in baseball, you can see things
• 59:48
  Speaker 9: throughout the course of a game on both the offense
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: and defensive side, of confidence of players walking to play,
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: or the way the pitcher toes the rubber. Luis Castigo
• 59:56
  Speaker 9: as an opportunity tonight to get the crowd involved really early.
• 59:59
  Speaker 9: If we can put his Europe early, get the offense included,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 9: it's gonna be a really exciting game. I'd love to
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 9: see more of a you know, a three to two
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 9: or a four to three type game. That's more of
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: the Mariner style that we saw in the DS. They
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 9: had the Game four against the Tigers that got out
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 9: of hand when the Tigers' bats came alive and they
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: responded with a fifteen inning game to win it in
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 9: the decisive game five. I hope we don't play fifteen tonight,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: but I do hope it's more competitive and looks like
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: the brand of Maritags baseball we've seen all season long.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of momentum, I mean, it's real, but
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: I think as soon as that final out is caught,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: the momentum kind of goes away, and that really kind
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: of shifts into belief. I think what the Blue Jays
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: have is a ton of belief. And to your previous
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: point is the Mariners are still up two to one
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: in this series with two more games left, you know,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: And that was that was my big talking point post
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: game for the Blue Jays, was kind of everything that
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: we had mentioned before, like they kind of that win,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: decisive win yesterday really just kind of switched the narrative
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 4: of the series to like allow people maybe outside that
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: both of those clubhouses, people like us in the media, fans,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: to really believe, like the Blue Jays do have a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: chance to win this series. But I got a chance
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: to talk to George Springer before the game yesterday, for
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: you know, about a half hour. Couldn't have been any
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: cooler calmer being down oh two in a series. It's
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: something he wasn't he was familiar with in his time
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: with the Astros. And he's like, it's and we both
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: agreed on this. It's a much bigger deal to everyone
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: outside of that clubhouse than it is inside that clubhouse.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 4: But I do believe the Blue Jays are going to
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: show up with even more confidence today after what they
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: did yesterday. But I don't think the Mariners are ultimately
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: phased by what happened. I think they had a moment
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: of reflection in that clubhouse to be like, Okay, this
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: isn't going to be easy, you know, not to say
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: the first two games were easy, but they went into
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: a tough place to win two games coming off a
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: super emotional, you know, fifteen inning victory across country flight.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: You show up to media day, your your head's kind
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: of spinning. You know, even know where you're at, you know.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: And I was even saying going to that series, and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: I texted Dan Shulman before Game one, I said, this
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: is the one I'm afraid of. Because blue Jays have
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: everything in line. They have rest, they have Gosman on
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: the mound. The Mariners are coming off this emotional victory,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 4: their pitching plans are kind of in shambles, and the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 4: Mariners just showed up and stole one and then they
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: won decisively. But I think momentum really does kind of
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 4: end when that final out is done for the game.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: You're able to kind of wash your hands, you know,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: rinse everything that happened from that game. But I think
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: we're going to see two very very competitive teams, very
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: confident teams showing up today, and that first inning is
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 4: going to be very, very pivotal for Luis Castillo. I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: think if he can decisively get through the first inning,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: you know, I think if he goes, you know, three up,
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  Speaker 4: three down. I think if he gets into a little
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: bit of trouble but gets out of the inning, I
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: think there's going to be more of a sigh of relief.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: I think you'll hear an exhale. But I think if
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  Speaker 4: he can go one, two, three and show some sort
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  Speaker 4: of dominance in those first three hitters, I think you're
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 4: going to give that offense a chance. With a very
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: rowdy crowd and Max Schurz is on the mound, I mean,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: I think this is the biggest mystery box of a
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: starting pitcher you know you're ever going to see in
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: a postseason game. He hasn't pitched in a month. He
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: says he's healthy. He had an awful year this year.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: He's forty one years old. He ain't the same guy,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: but he does he have the potential to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: turn back the clock for just maybe eighteen outs today.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's the biggest storyline of.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: The game, Kevin.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to ask, since you played with him just
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: this year, I mean, probably one of the scarier hitters
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: to step into the box is Vlad And so I mean,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: what is it that he has to work on you?
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: When you guys were in the batting cage, so we
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: know what his weakness is. We'll relay this to our guys.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, what is it? Is there anything that this
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: dude doesn't cover when it comes to him up in
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: the dish because a four for four we can't afford
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: that tonight.
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  Speaker 4: No, he really has no weakness. And me and some
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: of the media guys were in an uberes today moving
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: to the bar. We were just kind of talking about
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 4: the stuff. We were talking about Vlattie, like, he really
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 4: has no weaknesses. At the home play he's basically his
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 4: dad with plate discipline. He's got the power, he has
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: the ability to use all fields. He hits all pitches.
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  Speaker 4: But he is also one of the few superstars in
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: the game that he can be the guy he was
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: last night. But then he'll have a period of time
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: where he can't hit water if he fell out of
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: a boat. It's not like he has these like he
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: just has these really big ebbs and flows. But obviously
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: he has you know, more peaks than he has valleys.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: But right now what you're seeing from him, and he
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: talked about it kind of towards the end of the season,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: he was kind of struggling a little bit. He got
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: those couple of days off during the Wildcard series. He
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: found something in his swing that clicked. And he's been,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: you know, the flatty that everyone in Toronto when they
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 4: signed him up to that fourteen year deal expected him
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 4: to be. He's been carrying this offense. He hasn't been
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: doing it alone, but he's been the real catalyst at
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: the top of the lineup. He's come up with huge hits.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: He sets the table and really he has no weaknesses
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: at home plate when he's locked.
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: In Ryan, as we get ready to close shop. And
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: this has been a lot of fun. I could do
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: this for about four more hours. You guys into it.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Kevin Polar has authored some of the greatest defensive catches
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: that the baseball game of baseball has ever seen. What
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: do you send your buddy when you see him on
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: the highlights? What kind of text do you send him
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: when if you send him anything at all, when you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: see him climb the wall in Toronto and take home
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: runs away.
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  Speaker 9: It's usually banter. It's usually just like how reckless he
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: is with his body? Like we talk about that a lot.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 9: And we've spent a lot of time with our families together,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 9: so like when we both have kids, So when the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: kids are reckless with their body, like Kevin, that's you, Like,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 9: that's genetic. You gave that to him, you gave that
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 9: to your daughter. Then you showed them how to be
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 9: reckless with your body and it got you a ten
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 9: plus your career. But man, you got some cool stories
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 9: to tell for me. And I'm glad he never took a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 9: hit away from me. I don't think you did, keV.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 9: But he was there for my first major league kids,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 9: So him and I got some deeper than history together.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, do we have time to share that story? Please?
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Please?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: You want to hear this story? Yeah, go ahead and
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 4: tell it well as I was telling you. Ryan's sister
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: is married to my childhood best friend since I was
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: like two years old. So we've known each other pretty
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: much our whole life. Me and Ryan's age gap. You know,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: when you're a kid, the age gap is a little
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: bit more serious, you know. You know, I'm four years
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: older than Ryan, so you know, I'm he's four. I'm
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: not playing with a four year old as much when
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 4: I'm eight. So but his older sister, his older sister
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 4: is only what two years younger than me, maybe a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 4: year younger than me. So my best friend has a sister.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: Their sisters grew up together. So I've known his sister
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: my whole life, and Ryan I knew very little. But
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: as we got older, baseball kind of brought us together,
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: especially once he got into professional baseball. I was already
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 4: in professional baseball. We actually made this very courageous decision
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: to move to Arizona together at some point in our
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 4: career because getting out of California was a better tax decision,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 4: but it was also a better baseball offseason, there was
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 4: more resources for us to explore, and we thought if
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: we did it together, you know, we would be able
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: to kind of push each other, motivate each other, work
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: out together, hit together, to kind of just expand our careers.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: But going back to that, we were I was still
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: we were both living in California at the time. I
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: was in the major leagues. Ryan was in Double A
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: with the A's. Our All Star breaks had overlapped. Was
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: that the year you play in the Futures Game?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 9: So I went Future Game in San Diego and I
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 9: went to Kevin's house, Yeah, for a barlaving your wife's birthday.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 4: My wife's birthday. And he at the end of the barbecue,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: I walked into the front door. He said he had
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: to catch a flight al Paso. And you know, like
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: you said, we like to banter a lot. And I said, hey,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: don't call me to You're in the big leagues, buddy,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: And that was like the last thing I said to him.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: And where were you up that second half?
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: We were opening in Oakland, So he flew to al Paso.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: I stayed the night at home. I flew to Oakland
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: the next day for like the workout. Uh, the next
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: morning he calls me. I'm like, what do you want, buddy,
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 4: told you not to call me. You're in the big leagues.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: And sure enough, they called him up to the big
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: leagues to start the second half in Oakland, and I was.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 4: I was there for his debut. I saw his first hit,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: which I think was a home run off of Jay
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 4: Hap or Dicky r A.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 9: Dickey All right, Dicky go yeah, but then I think
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 9: you hit over the next day, right, No, I got
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 9: the half the happ the halp.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: Was the later in the series later, Yeah, okay, but yeah,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: I was there. His family was there, Your whole family
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: was there. My whole family was there, my uh, you know,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: my best friend who's married to his sister was there.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: So it was just kind of a cool story where, uh,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: you know that I was with him the day before,
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: you know, thought he you know, he was in double
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: A stone El Paso. You know that I thought he would,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: you know, and he, to his credit, you know, repeated
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: double A and he didn't feel like he needed to,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: and he just had a great attitude about going back there.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: But typically the natural jump would be getting the call
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: from you know, going from double A to triple a
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: you know, never in a million years did I expect
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: to get a phone call a day later for him
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: to make his debut. And you know, the universe has
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: a funny way of rewarding people, and and the baseball
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: world is just so small and intimate sometimes that I
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: got to be uh, not only a front row seat
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: to you know, his debut, I got to compete against him.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: And the last thing I'll say is that little wall
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: scraper he hit. He was lucky he didn't hit the
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: center because I would have brought that thing back.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: He'd still be.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: Still be he'd still be searching for his first one.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: I knew where I could could have hit it. Okay,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: well this was awesome, so Ryan, hopefully we didn't catch
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you too much off guard with our little surprise we
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: had for you. But great having you two on surprise.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: We'll work. Appreciate Thank you, Keev, I.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: Could have done it forever. Appreciate you guys.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I'll see you guys, all right, Yeah, we'll see out
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: of the ballpark. Kevin Polar, Ryan Heay joining us here.
• 1:10:20
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  Speaker 1: Here's Chucking buck ah Man. We didn't get to chat
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: with Mike last week, so it's good to hear his voice.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: This week, we get ready for Thursday night football. We
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: also get ready for Seahawks Texans Monday night football. So
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: much to discuss. Good morning, Mike, Good morning, how you doing.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: I'm great. Are you excited to watch ya Tittle versus
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: Auto Graham tonight?
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: I am?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: I like what the guys you know, guys in my well,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 10: they're younger than me, but I mean, you know, they're
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 10: they're the closest to our age range, I guess out there,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: so that's kind of funny.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: I think Rogers was a senior when I was a junior,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, you know, right? Yeah? I mean,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: is this Pittsburgh's division? I mean, based on the fact
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: that Baltimore is just kind of collapsed and Cincinnati doesn't
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow, I mean, are the can you just
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: circle the Steelers as division champs this year.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 10: I mean probably, But what's to say that Aaron Rodgers,
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 10: age fifty eight, doesn't have an entry in the next
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 10: two weeks That totally changes their season? Right, So yeah,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 10: right now they probably have a seventy five percent chance
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: to win that division just the way that it's going.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: And the thing about Baltimore is like Lamar Jackson is
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: going to come back, but is he going to be
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 10: the same He had a hamstring injury. So clearly the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: Steelers are in the driver's seat. But they got the
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 10: oldest quarterback of you know, of the bunch, and that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 10: could lead to injury too.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: Who's the the biggest surprise you Jags, Colts or is
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: there's somebody I'm missing?
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: Probably the I mean the Colts were one that I
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: had circled as potential, but I think just the level
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 10: they've been playing at offensively to me is surprising. You know,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 10: did I think they could be good and and win
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 10: ten games?
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 10: I think that was realistic, But they're like top five,
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 10: you know, a lot of different things offensively, and so
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: I would say I didn't really see it coming to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 10: that degree.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Mike Sander is with us our NFL Insider joining us
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: here on Chuck and Buck, as he does most every
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Thursday throughout the football season. Well, let's talk about the
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Seahawks opponent on Monday night, the Houston Texans. What a
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: strange start that they're off to. They've got a sub
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: five hundred record, yet their rank number one in the
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: NFL and defense and c. J. Stroud still hasn't picked
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: back up where he left off at the end of
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: his rookie year. So how good a team is this
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Houston team? Are they good at all?
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 10: Well, they're definitely good, and that they haven't allowed more
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 10: than twenty points in a game this year, so you
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 10: know you're going to get a be in for a
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 10: scrap with their defense. And then the other thing is
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 10: you know they're going to they're coming off a bye,
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 10: so you know they've had lots of time to really
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: dissect Seattle and they should have a really good plan defensively.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 10: Plus they're going to know exactly what Clint Kubiak wants
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 10: to do offensively because you know they have some history
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 10: going against that type of a scheme. Denico Ryans was
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 10: with Kyle Shanahan in with the forty nine ers, so
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 10: you're probably going to get a really you know, the
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 10: best defensive test probably of the season so far, will
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 10: be this week against Houston.
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 3: What is it that they do that is the scariest?
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: Is it the pass rush? Is it the fact that
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: they got some ballhawks in the back, or just get
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 3: good complimentary football on the defensive side?
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: What is it that well?
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 10: They, yeah, do they have a very good pass rush,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 10: and they've invested in that. They have a couple of
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 10: new faces this year, but they have good pass rush
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 10: and then they have, you know, a top five cornerback.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: In the league as well.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 10: So I think that that's a really good combination for
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 10: a you know, a defensive head coach who's what in
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 10: his third year there, so they've got their program pretty
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 10: well established. I think it's a really good, you know,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 10: just whole operation on the defensive side.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: One more question about this game, and we got some
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: other ground to cover. In the National Football League, you
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: do your quarterback tiers, it's award winning. Everybody loves it.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Everybody except maybe some of the quarterbacks maybe they don't
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: like it so much. But if you were to do
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: wide receiver tiers, where's JSN Which tier does he rise?
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 10: To, Well, he's got to be in Tier one unless
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 10: your tier one of receivers requires you to be you know,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 10: six foot two and two hundred and twenty pounds and
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 10: just an absolute physical mismatch. I think one of the
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 10: interesting things is you look around the league, though, is
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 10: the leading receivers in the league aren't that guy?
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: Do you notice that if you.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 10: Look around the guys with the yardage, there's a lot
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 10: of guys who are just super productive because they can,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: you know, get open, catch the ball. They're well schemed
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 10: and and that. So I think you have to put
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 10: him in the top tier based on his production, well,
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: just allowing for the fact that, hey, you know, historically
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 10: there are some guys that are more physically imposing.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: He's a special though, Man, is he special? Mike Sando
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: is with us our NFL inside. You can follow him
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: at Sando NFL there on X joins us every Thursday.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: San Francisco's got another major injury. I mean, they're without
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: Bosa and Warner. We've talked about this team a lot
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: in our sessions together, but how are they going to
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: hold this thing together?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 10: I don't think they're gonna And also their quarterback, both
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 10: of them have been banged up, but you know, brock
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 10: Purty hasn't really shown an ability to be durable over
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 10: the long term, and he's got a you know, the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 10: type of a foot toe type thing that could bother
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: him a little bit longer term, you know, may linger
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 10: for him, or the type of thing that could be recurring.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 10: So they don't get a bye to like Week fourteen either.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: So I just think it's a tough grind. They're competitive,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 10: they play hard, they're tough, but that's a lot to
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 10: ask to really overcome. You know, losing two players in
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 10: Bosa and Fred Warner, who might be the best player
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 10: on any team in the league if they went on
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 10: that team.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Think about that. Those are stars, no doubt about it.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Speaking of stars, Baker Mayfield, I mean, can you envision
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: a world where he ends up the MVP of the
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: NFL this year?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 4: I think I could.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: You know one thing about them, though, is they've won
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 10: all of these super close games, so you know, sometimes
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 10: that doesn't be sustained.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 10: We saw last year the Chiefs were eleven and zero
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 10: in one score games, and then this year they started
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 10: owing three in those games. The Bucks are in some
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 10: ways not as good as they were last season because
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 10: of injuries. But Baker has been keeping their head above water.
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  Speaker 10: So I see his path to the MVP being this,
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  Speaker 10: continue to get guys back from health so you don't
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  Speaker 10: have to win, you know, by one point every week.
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  Speaker 10: And we saw last week they beat the forty nine
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  Speaker 10: ers by more than that forty nine ers obviously hurting,
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  Speaker 10: So I think he's right in it.
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  Speaker 1: I do. I think they lose to Detroit though Monday,
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  Speaker 1: don't you.
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  Speaker 10: I mean they could, yeah, but they could, they could,
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  Speaker 10: they could, They could score them too.
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  Speaker 1: Last thing for you, we've seen the first head coach
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  Speaker 1: get fired of the season. But man, it seems like
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  Speaker 1: they're hot seats all over this league. Is Are we
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  Speaker 1: going to see a lot of firings? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: before the year comes to a close. Not necessarily.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, there could certainly be another one, but I
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  Speaker 10: don't necessarily think that as I looked through to sort
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 10: of the teams that are down there, like the Jets
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  Speaker 10: have a first year coach. You know, Cleveland's been super
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  Speaker 10: patient with their guys, so I suppose they could, but
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  Speaker 10: you know, maybe Miami's want to watch it. It's just
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 10: been weird stuff at the podium, you know, and yeah,
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  Speaker 10: that's everything a couple of years now. Yeah, that might
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  Speaker 10: be the one that I would look for if it
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  Speaker 10: just gets out of hand with you know, tuas talking
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  Speaker 10: about leadership and all that. It just there's a lot
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 10: of noise around that team with an owner who probably
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 10: could be a little impulsive than Stephen Ross.
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