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The Rita Panahi Show | 22 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: Starting right now, The Rita Panahy Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to The Rita Panahy Show. Coming
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Speaker 2: up tonight, Channel 9's disgraceful attempt to link the Ku
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Speaker 2: Klux Klan with One Nation. My panel will cover that
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Speaker 2: and the day's other top headlines. The government claims power
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Speaker 2: bills could fall by 40% for those who use solar
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Speaker 2: power and electrify their homes. Professor Ian Plymer will give
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Speaker 2: us his analysis. Kosher Gator will have the latest from
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Speaker 2: the US, including the unexpected love-in between socialist New York
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Speaker 2: City Mayor Zoran Mamdani and President Donald Trump. And Charles
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Speaker 2: Spencer's bail threats against King Charles. Michael Loftus will have
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Speaker 2: that and all your entertainment news later in the hour.
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Speaker 2: And we never forget lefties losing it tonight, featuring Swedish
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Speaker 2: doomsday gremlin Greta Thunberg, who seems to have forgotten all
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Speaker 2: about Palestine.
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Speaker 3: We are suing the Swedish state over its insufficient climate policies.
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Speaker 3: And today was the first time the Aurora case took
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Speaker 3: place in court. And now the process continues.
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Speaker 2: But first, Pauline Hansen has called out the Nine Network
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Speaker 2: for a report linking the Ku Klux Klan to One Nation.
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Speaker 2: The broadcaster had a reporter sit down with Thomas Robb,
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Speaker 2: a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan, for its
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Speaker 2: series on Trump's America. And you can imagine just how
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Speaker 2: objective and fact-based that reporting will be. Let's have a
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Speaker 2: little look at the reporting that has Pauline Hanson irate.
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Speaker 4: Is it heartening for you to see someone like anti-immigration
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Speaker 4: Pauline Hanson doing well in Australia?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's encouraging, absolutely. This is Tom Robb, the KKK guy.
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Speaker 5: My comrade, my friend.
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Speaker 4: And he agreed to speak to me.
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Speaker 2: In a statement, Pauline Hanson said, this is disgusting and
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Speaker 2: a new low for the Australian media. Any suggestion that
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Speaker 2: One Nation or its supporters endorse the KKK or share
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Speaker 2: its ideology is absurd and offensive. There is something seriously wrong...
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Speaker 2: with a media organisation that needs to hear what the
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Speaker 2: Ku Klux Klan thinks about Australian politics and chooses to
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Speaker 2: promote those views. Channel 9 should be ashamed of itself.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now for more on this is News Corp
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Speaker 2: senior writer Patrick Carline and One Nation upper house candidate
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Speaker 2: for the Victorian election, Colleen Harkin. Patrick, the hit pieces,
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Speaker 2: the smear campaign's are becoming increasingly desperate against One Nation,
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Speaker 2: but none of it is landing. I wrote that in
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Speaker 2: today's Herald Sun. One Nation's leading in the polls. In
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Speaker 2: the latest news poll, they had three points clear of Labor.
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Speaker 4: That's right. Look, I agree. I can understand why Pauline
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Speaker 4: Hanson is outraged by this. I mean, you're talking about
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Speaker 4: the Ku Klux Klan. I mean, it's got to. a
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Speaker 4: history of violence and prejudice that has no place in
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Speaker 4: Australian politics. And to loosely link an Australian political party
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Speaker 4: to the KKK is a big leap and does seem
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Speaker 4: very unfair. So I can understand where it's coming from.
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Speaker 4: But going to your point, yes, none of these things
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Speaker 4: are landing, are they? I mean, the more people, opponents
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Speaker 4: call out Pauline Hanson as a racist or whatever, the
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Speaker 4: more it galvanises her support. And we've seen this all
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Speaker 4: through the year and it's getting stronger and stronger.
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Speaker 2: I think part of that, Colleen, is because so many
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Speaker 2: recognise that the attacks are unfair, that they're not good
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Speaker 2: faith attacks. The Warren Pickering example, I think, is a
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Speaker 2: prime one because really that could have been presented so differently.
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Speaker 2: This is a man who had a very troubled early
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Speaker 2: years in his 20s, was abusing drugs, his life was
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Speaker 2: obviously a mess, but then he joined the armed forces
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Speaker 2: and in his 20s, in his late 20s, and got
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Speaker 2: his life on track. And I would have thought that
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Speaker 2: was as compelling a story as this sort of expose
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Speaker 2: about what he did when he was 22. As a
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Speaker 2: One Nation candidate, What are your thoughts on some of
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Speaker 2: these smear campaigns? Are you worried that it is going
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Speaker 2: to damage you?
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Speaker 6: Well, to your point, the story about Warren Pickering, I mean,
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Speaker 6: as a society, what we want to see is people
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Speaker 6: who have gone off the rails fix themselves, which is
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Speaker 6: exactly what he did, and it should have been a
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Speaker 6: story of.
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Speaker 2: A good story. Redemption. Yeah, correct.
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Speaker 6: And, you know, this Ku Klux Klan thing, I mean,
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Speaker 6: that's just gutter activism. It's not journalism at all. It's
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Speaker 6: trying to manufacture some association, which is entirely false. I mean,
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Speaker 6: it doesn't need to be said, but I will say
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Speaker 6: it anyway. One Nation has no relationship, it absolutely abhors
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Speaker 6: Ku Klux Klan, it does not support racism, but the
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Speaker 6: fact that you need to say those things, it needs
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Speaker 6: to be said for the record, but I think the
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Speaker 6: average person on the street can see that it is
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Speaker 6: just a hit job trying to get something to land,
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Speaker 6: and it's not landing. People are not stupid. They can
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Speaker 6: see that there's an agenda behind it. and they're not
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Speaker 6: buying it.
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Speaker 2: Well, One Nation have already banned, I think, the ABC,
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Speaker 2: The Guardian, from their press conferences. Nine may be joining.
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Speaker 2: There may just be, you know, nobody there, which might
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Speaker 2: actually get you some sense. We're making fun of this because...
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Speaker 2: It's not landing. It's not having the desired impact. But
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Speaker 2: really it is quite a dreadful smear campaign and it's
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Speaker 2: so cheap and nasty. You can do that at every election.
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Speaker 2: You could find some objectionable figure to endorse a candidate
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Speaker 2: that knows nothing about them, has nothing to do with
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Speaker 2: them and by extension smear that candidate. Now let's hear
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Speaker 2: from Barnaby Joyce who had some thoughts about this reporting.
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Speaker 2: Have you seen me in a sheet lately?
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Speaker 7: Have you seen me parading around the building with a
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Speaker 7: burning cross?
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Speaker 8: I mean, this is mindless babble.
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Speaker 5: It just goes to show you how desperate they've become
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Speaker 5: when you bring up garbage like that.
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Speaker 2: And let's look at the latest news poll published in
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Speaker 2: yesterday's Australian. It shows that two-thirds of Australians want fewer
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Speaker 2: immigrants coming to the country and When you break it
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Speaker 2: down among party supporters, that is 95% of One Nation supporters, 76%
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Speaker 2: of coalition supporters, and this is important, 60% of minor
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Speaker 2: party supporters. Even among Labor voters, 44% want to see
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Speaker 2: fewer immigrants coming into the country and 29% of Green supporters.
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Speaker 2: That will be a shock. Overall, Patrick, just 6% of
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Speaker 2: voters say they want to see more immigrants coming into
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Speaker 2: the country.
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Speaker 4: Look, you look at the numbers from a year ago,
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Speaker 4: they were very similar to what those numbers are there.
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Speaker 4: And it's something we really do need to thank One
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Speaker 4: Nation for, actually moving the dial, making this debate something.
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Speaker 2: That we're having.
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Speaker 4: Because two years ago, if you had two and three
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Speaker 4: Australians saying less immigration, they would have reflexively being called racist.
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Speaker 4: They were too scared to say it. You look at
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Speaker 4: the population in Australia, it's bulging. It's grown by 1.4%
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Speaker 4: a year. One in three Australians are born overseas. There's
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Speaker 4: not enough houses. There's a cost of living crisis. I mean,
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Speaker 4: this is a sort of perfect, you know, sort of
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Speaker 4: storm of problems that have led to this debate. But
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Speaker 4: I do thank One Nation for moving the dialogue.
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Speaker 2: Well, Colleen, One Nation have really given people licence to
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Speaker 2: talk about this, given the media to cover it. We've
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Speaker 2: covered it on this station. But any debate about immigration
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Speaker 2: is so often characterised as racist and it shouldn't be.
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Speaker 2: It's a population policy and we are an island nation.
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Speaker 2: We are in a unique position where we can control
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Speaker 2: our population. We can say this is the ideal number,
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Speaker 2: this is where we want to head and this is
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Speaker 2: how we want to head there. And yet those debates
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Speaker 2: really aren't had because both the Coalition and Labor have
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Speaker 2: favoured a big Australian view of the country.
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Speaker 6: Well, I think in recent history both the Labor government
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Speaker 6: and the Coalition have botched up immigration. There's no doubt
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Speaker 6: about that, that the average person has looked around and
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Speaker 6: said this is not who we want to be, it's
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Speaker 6: not how we want to be. And it even goes
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Speaker 6: further than that. Two-thirds of Australians are saying we don't
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Speaker 6: want these levels of migration. But 79% of them will
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Speaker 6: say we want less than 100,000. Now, they're the sorts
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Speaker 6: of numbers that we had in the 20th century when
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Speaker 6: we considered ourselves a successful multi-ethnic community. People are looking
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Speaker 6: at 235,000 immigrants, you know, net overseas migration every year.
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Speaker 6: It's too much.
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Speaker 5: We don't want it.
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Speaker 2: But it's also you've got rid of the, not the requirement,
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Speaker 2: but there was... an expectation that people would assimilate, that
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Speaker 2: you would come here and you would adopt Australian values.
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Speaker 2: And that has been completely lost, Patrick. It's almost become
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Speaker 2: taboo to talk about the A word. You can't talk
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Speaker 2: about assimilation because all cultures are equal. And plainly, they're not.
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Speaker 2: There are some cultures that are at odds with Western democracies.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 4: Look, you look at Italy at the moment. I mean,
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Speaker 4: they're talking about, their leaders talking about you can come
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Speaker 4: to our country and you need to understand our culture.
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Speaker 4: This is a conversation that so many countries are having.
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Speaker 4: We seem to struggle with it a little bit here
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Speaker 4: in Australia, don't we? It's sort of like, oh, you
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Speaker 4: don't want to offend this group. You don't want to
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Speaker 4: offend this group. But everyone has very passionate views about immigration.
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Speaker 2: Well, the people you don't want to offend most are
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Speaker 2: the inner-city-dwelling white folk, the self-loathing Australians. It's not really
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Speaker 2: the migrant communities you need to worry about offending. Now,
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Speaker 2: you talked about Italy, and we did cover that yesterday,
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Speaker 2: with our last night with John Heinrich and more details
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Speaker 2: are emerging of Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Maloney's plans to
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Speaker 2: preserve Italian culture. Maloney has announced that her government is
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Speaker 2: preparing a bill targeting the country's education system. She wants
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Speaker 2: a limit on the number of foreign pupils in each class.
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Speaker 2: She also plans to force parents of students facing serious
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Speaker 2: difficulties integrating into into the national school system so they
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Speaker 2: can learn Italian. And she has called for a ban
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Speaker 2: on burqas and kneecaps in school. Let's have a quick listen.
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Speaker 9: Interesting.
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Speaker 2: She's framing this, Patrick, around.
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Speaker 2: Equal rights, that there are some cultures where women are
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Speaker 2: not equal and that is not going to be tolerated
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Speaker 2: in Italy because they have a different world view. What
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Speaker 2: do you make of this? I mean, these sort of
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Speaker 2: policies make one nation look left wing. I mean, this
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Speaker 2: is staunch.
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Speaker 4: Look, I think she's basically saying that the burqa is
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Speaker 4: a symbol of oppression, isn't she, really? And it's interesting,
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Speaker 4: if you go back, if you look sort of throughout Europe,
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Speaker 4: the banning of the burqa is not a new thing.
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Speaker 4: This has happened in France, Belgium. Holland, Denmark, I think.
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Speaker 4: And it's been happening for decades.
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Speaker 2: It's happened in Muslim-majority countries like Egypt. It is something that, again,
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Speaker 2: seems to be taboo here. If you even just mention it,
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Speaker 2: people get their vapours and faint. But it is a
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Speaker 2: valid discussion. And I know people talk about the security issue, Colleen,
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Speaker 2: but for me, having fled an Islamist country, it's always
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Speaker 2: been a women's rights issue and a That is a
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Speaker 2: dehumanising garb. You cannot see someone's face. And it is
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Speaker 2: completely at odds with Western values. I just don't want
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Speaker 2: to see burqas and niqabs normalised. But on Georgia Maloney,
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Speaker 2: she obviously understands that the left's march through the institutions
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Speaker 2: started with education, and that's where she's starting.
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Speaker 6: And it always has, and that's where we have to
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Speaker 6: be the most observant about what's going on in our
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Speaker 6: schools because it's The amount of ideological indoctrination that is
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Speaker 6: in our schools would shock parents if they actually scratched
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Speaker 6: the surface and sat in a couple of classrooms for
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Speaker 6: a couple of weeks and see what the kids are
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Speaker 6: exposed to. You know, the issue of Australian history, Australian values,
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Speaker 6: Australian patriotism is almost non-existent. In fact, it's demonised as
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Speaker 6: something that we should not.
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Speaker 2: Be proud of.
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Speaker 6: And the equality of culture, as opposed to valuing Western
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Speaker 6: democracy values, All of that sort of stuff has gone
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Speaker 6: through the school system and through the institutions and it's
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Speaker 6: why we have situations now where a lot of our
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Speaker 6: younger people just simply don't understand how we got here
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Speaker 6: and what there is to lose, what we need to
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Speaker 6: be defending and what we need to be promoting. So
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Speaker 6: she's right to be looking at the education system first
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Speaker 6: and foremost.
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Speaker 2: You shot a video recently, I saw it posted on
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Speaker 2: social media, of you outside Melbourne University. Melbourne University. And
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Speaker 2: you were talking about the flags that they were displaying.
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Speaker 2: There weren't any Australian flags.
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Speaker 10: No.
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Speaker 6: There was an Aboriginal flag and a Torres Strait Islander
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Speaker 6: flag and no Australian flag.
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Speaker 2: So they've stopped even flying them together. They've just... opted
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Speaker 2: for those two and there was no Australian flag.
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Speaker 6: There was no Australian flag when we were in this
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Speaker 6: sort of quadrangle area.
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Speaker 2: That's very inclusive, isn't it? That's very inclusive, about 97%, 98%
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Speaker 2: of the Victorian population. That is extraordinary.
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Speaker 6: And this is something that you sort of you see
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Speaker 6: and it becomes immersed in the way you see the world,
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Speaker 6: particularly for younger people. Like not seeing an Australian flag
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Speaker 6: is part of how their psychology develops.
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Speaker 5: It's terrible.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 2: Patrick Carline, Colleen Harkin, always a pleasure. Thank you for
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Speaker 2: your time. Joining me now is esteemed geologist, author and
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Speaker 2: executive director at Hancock Energy, Professor Ian Plymer. Ian, before
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Speaker 2: we start, we put out an invitation to Lily O'Neill,
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Speaker 2: the author of The Conversation's Billaloo Basin Scare campaign story.
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Speaker 2: We discussed that last week. We invited her on the
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Speaker 2: show for a debate with yourself. Unfortunately, She said she
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Speaker 2: was unavailable, so maybe another time. The invitation is still open. Now,
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Speaker 2: the same Albanese government that failed to keep its promise
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Speaker 2: to cap our power bills by $ 275, now they're claiming
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Speaker 2: that household energy costs could fall by as much as
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Speaker 2: $ 4, 300 a year for families who use solar power and
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Speaker 2: electrify their homes and cars. The claim was made in
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Speaker 2: Jim Chalmers' intergenerational report released yesterday. Ian, do you agree
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Speaker 2: with the assessment that household energy costs could decline by 40%
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Speaker 2: from 2030 to 2050 if current rates of electrification continue?
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Speaker 1: Well, the only thing about the intergenerational report is that
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Speaker 1: we're handing massive debt to the next generation. That's the
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Speaker 1: intergenerational report bottom line. We are handing them debt. We're
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Speaker 1: handing them higher costs for electricity. We keep getting promises that, oh,
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Speaker 1: things are going to get better in the future. Give
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Speaker 1: me my $ 275 and I might even think about believing you.
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Speaker 1: But until then, We don't fall for it any longer.
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Speaker 1: You've told us too many lies. The electricity prices keep
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Speaker 1: going up. We are not fools. We go into the
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Speaker 1: supermarket and see it's a supermarket and not a supermarket.
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Speaker 1: We find that every time we are doing something, it
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Speaker 1: costs us more money. Now, the government has an election
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Speaker 1: coming up. They are clearly frightened because they're losing ground,
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Speaker 1: they're losing the populace, and they're trying everything possible. Just
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Speaker 1: wait till tomorrow. It'll be much better. The sun will
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Speaker 1: rise and stay shining all day.
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Speaker 2: And all night.
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Speaker 1: You won't have to worry about solar power. I don't
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Speaker 1: believe a word they say.
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Speaker 2: No, well, green lobby groups are calling for Chris Bowen
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Speaker 2: to hit coal power stations with a new carbon tax
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Speaker 2: that could add $ 100 million a year to a plant's
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Speaker 2: running costs. They want the Safeguard Mechanism Emissions Trading Scheme
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Speaker 2: to be extended to individual power plants. Ian, energy generators
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Speaker 2: have warned this move could drive up power bills even
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Speaker 2: more and not reduce greenhouse gas pollution. What's your view
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Speaker 2: of this proposal?
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Speaker 1: Well, coal was once the cheapest, most reliable form of power.
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Speaker 1: We then had various nefarious ways of taxing it, such
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Speaker 1: that we could promote wind and solar, such that the
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Speaker 1: White Shoe Brigade could ruin farmland and make a fortune.
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Speaker 1: We are persuading people to have a rooftop solar, such
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Speaker 1: that we can steal electricity off their batteries. And now
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Speaker 1: we're having the Greens say we've got to close down
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Speaker 1: the source of power that gives us more than 60%
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Speaker 1: of our electricity. Now, not only will costs go up,
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Speaker 1: we just won't have electricity. Because if you start taxing
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Speaker 1: them to that degree, and this type of electricity generation
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Speaker 1: has already been made unprofitable by this dopey decarbonisation, net zero,
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Speaker 1: we just won't have this electricity. And then we will
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Speaker 1: really feel the pinch.
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Speaker 2: Now, Ian, the Albanese government is copying it from all quarters.
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Speaker 2: They've also been accused of ignoring warnings on electric vehicles.
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Speaker 2: The Australian has confirmed EVs make up 15 of the
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Speaker 2: 23 car models available to MPs under the latest Department
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Speaker 2: of Finance approved vehicle list. And of those, six are
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Speaker 2: Chinese made. And while there is an investigation into smart
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Speaker 2: glasses over whether they should be used by government employees.
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Speaker 2: No such work is being done on these electric vehicles. Ian,
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Speaker 2: this is despite ASIO warning it was not safe for
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Speaker 2: ministers like Don Farrell and Chris Bowen to have sensitive
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Speaker 2: conversations in their EVs. Their cars are listening. Beijing may
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Speaker 2: be listening, Ian.
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Speaker 1: Well, Beijing can listen to anything I say in my car.
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Speaker 1: Mind you, I don't drive an electric car. I love
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Speaker 1: the sound of a V8. They can listen to anything
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Speaker 1: I say. I've got nothing important to say, and I
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Speaker 1: suspect ministers don't have something very important to say.
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Speaker 2: How are they listening to you, Ian? Is it through
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Speaker 2: the iPhone or iPad?
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Speaker 1: Perhaps the iPhone or iPad, but I've got nothing important
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Speaker 1: to say. so the Chinese can fill up all their
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Speaker 1: time and energy listening to me. But one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons why rural Australia is neglected by politicians is that
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Speaker 1: they drive electric vehicles and they just can't go far
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Speaker 1: enough out into rural areas to hear what people have
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Speaker 1: to say. So I'm a very strong believer in them
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Speaker 1: getting out of the electric cars, forget all the phones
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Speaker 1: and Chinese listening, Get a car that's got decent range
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Speaker 1: and go out and talk to farmers and go out
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Speaker 1: and talk to people in the bush and find out
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Speaker 1: what the problems are that our government have created with
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Speaker 1: these people. Get out of your electric car, drive something
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Speaker 1: decent and listen to the public talking.
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Speaker 2: That is such an excellent point. It did not even
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Speaker 2: occur to me that if you have an electric vehicle,
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Speaker 2: you're probably not going out to regional areas too often,
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Speaker 2: are you? Because we know all the issues with that.
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Speaker 2: And the fact that 15 of the 23 car models
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Speaker 2: available to MPs are electric vehicles, that is just so
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Speaker 2: completely disproportionate. We know in Australia, they're not being taken
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Speaker 2: up at that rate. This is almost like shoving it
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Speaker 2: down their throats in.
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Speaker 1: Well, one of the interesting observations you see in this
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Speaker 1: country is that Chinese immigrants don't drive Chinese vehicles. They
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Speaker 1: drive a Mercedes-Benz or a BMW or an Audi, but
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Speaker 1: they don't drive a Chinese car. Now, is this because
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Speaker 1: they're rubbish, that they know that the vehicle's rubbish, or
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Speaker 1: that they know something that we don't know, that maybe
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Speaker 1: if they're having a private discussion or even a matrimonial,
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Speaker 1: then the Chinese government will know about it?
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Speaker 2: Professor Ian Plymer, you've given us plenty to think about.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for your time this evening. Still to come,
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Speaker 2: lefties losing it, plus the latest from the US, including
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Speaker 2: the unexpected love-in between socialist New York City Mayor Zoran
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Speaker 2: Mamdani and President Trump. Kosher Gator is up next. Welcome
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Speaker 2: back and it's time for Lefties Losing It. You know,
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Speaker 2: the woke want us to be respectful of people's identities.
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Speaker 2: If they identify as a man, despite being obviously female,
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Speaker 2: we must respect their delusions. In fact, we must participate
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Speaker 2: in it. But what happens when they don't even know
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Speaker 2: what they are? What do you identify as?
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Speaker 5: What do I? Well, I can't just answer.
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Speaker 2: Like, it's complicated.
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Speaker 5: Tell me about it.
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Speaker 2: Now to the latest dumb fake outrage to flick the
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Speaker 2: American left. It involves sneaker brand Converse and a social
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Speaker 2: media ad that some have decided is a celebration of
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Speaker 2: the KKK and lynching. Seriously. Let's firstly have a look
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Speaker 2: at some of that campaign. Yep, that's the ad that
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Speaker 2: has people going nuts. Some are so mad that they
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Speaker 2: are burning their shoes. This next woman is in tears
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Speaker 2: with this imagined grievance. She thinks converse are deliberately trolling
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Speaker 2: black people because it means they'll sell more sneakers. So
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Speaker 2: many people have actually died.
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Speaker 1: That's the.
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Speaker 5: Part that hurts.
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Speaker 10: Black outrage is profitable because it causes virality.
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Speaker 5: And it increases sales.
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Speaker 2: Even if that were true, have you thought about not
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Speaker 2: giving them what they want, not giving them the virality?
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Speaker 2: But it's all about performative victim playing and Converse has
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Speaker 2: stupidly given in to the outrage orgy and deleted the ad.
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Speaker 2: But I wonder if there'll be any sackings. Probably not.
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Speaker 12: Oh my god, this ad is so racist. This is
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Speaker 12: why we need DEI. There should really be more black
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Speaker 12: people in the room. Chief Marketing Officer at Converse. Vice
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Speaker 12: President of Global Footwear and Design.
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Speaker 2: So... Now to Swedish doomsday gremlin Greta Thunberg. She seems
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Speaker 2: to have forgotten all about Palestine. She is back whipping
23:29
Speaker 2: up more fear about catastrophic global warming... And this time
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Speaker 2: she's taking everyone to court.
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Speaker 3: We are suing the Swedish state over its insufficient climate policies.
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Speaker 3: And today was the first time the Aurora case took
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Speaker 3: place in court. And now the process continues. The International
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Speaker 3: Court of Justice, the European Court of Human Rights and
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Speaker 3: the Swedish Supreme Court have all confirmed that states have
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Speaker 3: a legal duty to protect human rights against the consequences
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Speaker 3: of the climate crisis. The Swedish state is nowhere near
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Speaker 3: acting in line with what science says is our fair
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Speaker 3: share to prevent climate disasters.
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Speaker 2: Well, well, well. Wasn't this an unexpected little love-in between
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Speaker 2: socialist New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani and President Donald Trump?
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Speaker 2: How will Zoran explain to his rabid supporters... All these
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Speaker 2: lovely sentiments he shared about a man they claim is
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Speaker 2: a fascist dictator.
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Speaker 11: It's a real pleasure that just today we've agreed to
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Speaker 11: set up a new level of that conversation between our
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Speaker 11: housing and operations team at City Hall and the White
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Speaker 11: House team. Because what we're speaking about is 12,000 homes,
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Speaker 11: 30,000 jobs, the prospect of an entire new neighborhood. in
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Speaker 11: a city where housing is the number one cost. And
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Speaker 11: I appreciate the president, his interest in this. And we
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Speaker 11: also know the president, not just as the leader of
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Speaker 11: the country, but also as someone who has built quite
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Speaker 11: a lot of housing here in our city.
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Speaker 2: Wowee, and it wasn't long until this was a mutual
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Speaker 2: admiration society with the president expressing his hopes that Mamdani
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Speaker 2: would be a great mayor. He sees potential.
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Speaker 11: And the stability that is in the president's hands. And
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Speaker 11: I appreciate the conversation that we had and and the
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Speaker 11: consideration to that end. And you had your third question
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Speaker 11: for the president.
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Speaker 7: No, I certainly hope he will be a great mayor.
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Speaker 5: You have to understand, I want what's good for New York.
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Speaker 2: I want what's good for the country. So if I
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Speaker 2: had a choice of having him be a bad mayor
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Speaker 2: or horrible mayor, I don't want that. I want him
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Speaker 2: to be a great mayor.
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Speaker 4: And he's certainly got potential, got great potential.
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Speaker 2: Let's bring in News 24 contributor, Kosha Gader. Kosha, it's
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Speaker 2: not the first time these two have... had some very
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Speaker 2: friendly talks. It's surprising for many, but I think Zoran
25:47
Speaker 2: is going to revert to type, and as soon as
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Speaker 2: they come for him for this little episode, he's going
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Speaker 2: to lay the boots into the president again.
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Speaker 5: Of course. He will always do what's politically expedient. The
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Speaker 5: first time was when he was mayor-elect, and he was
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Speaker 5: in the Oval Office, and they had this sort of
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Speaker 5: love fest bromance and made headlines around the world. Look,
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Speaker 5: both of them are very gifted communicators in their own
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Speaker 5: right and in their own way. And they know exactly
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Speaker 5: what they're doing. What they have in common on paper
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Speaker 5: is New York. Trump is, of course, the quintessential New Yorker. Mamnani,
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Speaker 5: not so much. He's a rather new arrival. But he
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Speaker 5: is the mayor right now. And so Trump tends to
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Speaker 5: do this carrot and stick messaging where he's like, you know,
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Speaker 5: I love the city. And you have great potential to
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Speaker 5: make this great city even better. And if you do that,
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Speaker 5: then I'm happy and all New Yorkers are happy. He's
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Speaker 5: sort of just doing that.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And Trump would have enjoyed the praise. He loves praise
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Speaker 2: and Mamdani particularly praising his contribution to New York, all
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Speaker 2: the housing, all the jobs, all the investment. I think
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Speaker 2: that's going to flatter him. But I do wonder about
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Speaker 2: Mamdani's performance thus far. He's been in the job for
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Speaker 2: almost nine months now. We've got a good idea of
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Speaker 2: what sort of program he's implementing. What's your assessment of
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Speaker 2: Mamdani the Mayor?
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Speaker 5: Depends on what the goals are and what the metric is.
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Speaker 5: For the metric of actually improving New York City, I
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Speaker 5: would give him a big F for fail, which is
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Speaker 5: what everybody predicted in terms of budgets, debts, deficits, crime,
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Speaker 5: all of that stuff. Nothing is improved. If the metric
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Speaker 5: is advancing his agenda and his personal political brand, he
27:20
Speaker 5: gets an A because he is only getting more and
27:23
Speaker 5: more popular. He just, like we discussed, knows when to
27:26
Speaker 5: step over the line and sort of faux pretend that
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Speaker 5: he's praising Trump or whatever to get more accolades on
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Speaker 5: that side, then he'll step back on the other side
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Speaker 5: when he needs to. And I saw a poll the
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Speaker 5: other day where they were polling who's the most popular
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Speaker 5: Democrat for 2028. Even though he cannot run, he wasn't
27:41
Speaker 5: born in the US, his name was thrown into that
27:44
Speaker 5: poll and he was leading at 38%.
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Speaker 2: Wow, that is astonishing.
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Speaker 5: Astonishing.
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Speaker 2: That is astonishing. This man has a record of saying
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Speaker 2: something radical, rabid, hard left, communist, sometimes even Islamist comments.
28:01
Speaker 2: He's disavowed a lot of it, but this is stuff
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Speaker 2: he's said as an adult. This isn't something he's said
28:05
Speaker 2: as some impressionable teenager. And for him to be leading,
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Speaker 2: it just shows you where the Democrats are in 2026.
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Speaker 2: And where America is because the American left has a
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Speaker 2: crisis at the moment. They have normalised violence. They have
28:24
Speaker 2: normalised this big tent approach that is inclusive of anti-Semites,
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Speaker 2: that's inclusive of socialists and communists. Even Islamists.
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Speaker 5: Absolutely, and they're dragging the whole country, unfortunately, leftward into
28:38
Speaker 5: that hole, and he is there for it. He's harnessing it.
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Speaker 5: He knows how to package it very well. Something about
28:44
Speaker 5: him is charming to a wide enough swath of the electorate,
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Speaker 5: and he is riding that.
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Speaker 2: I tell you, the American Constitution saves them again because
28:52
Speaker 2: you're right, he can't run. He's not a... citizen that
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Speaker 2: was born there and that is something that has prevented
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Speaker 2: others from running and it will stop him from running. Now,
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Speaker 2: I played a clip of Ed Sheeran last night. He
29:06
Speaker 2: did a lengthy apology. It was something akin to a
29:10
Speaker 2: humiliation ritual, but his statement on stage has done little
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Speaker 2: to stop the abuse and now he's copying it from...
29:18
Speaker 2: Elements of the right as well, not just from the left,
29:21
Speaker 2: but one man who is coming to his defence is
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Speaker 2: Winston Marshall. He knows better than most what it's like
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Speaker 2: to be cancelled, what it's like to be the victim
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Speaker 2: of a pile-on. All he did was praise Andy Ngo's book.
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Speaker 2: Andy Ngo is the independent journalist who was bashed by
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Speaker 2: Antifa and he wrote about that. And the mob came
29:41
Speaker 2: for Winston Marshall. It was so bad they had to
29:44
Speaker 2: quit Mumford & Sons, the band he started.
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Speaker 10: He's saying that he's lost a lot of friends and
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Speaker 10: family through the process. And that is what really, really
29:53
Speaker 10: resonated with me. Because when I was dogpiled by the industry,
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Speaker 10: including people I'd worked with, and I was dogpiled by
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Speaker 10: the media, look, to be honest, I was like, eh,
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Speaker 10: you know, this isn't ideal. What hurt was that friends,
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Speaker 10: people that had been groomsmen at my wedding, people that
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Speaker 10: I thought were as good as family, Those guys did
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Speaker 10: not stand by me. They sided with the mob. And actually,
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Speaker 10: that was what hurt the most. And that's why I
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Speaker 10: feel for Ed. He actually said he had people in
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Speaker 10: his family who were not siding with him. No one
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Speaker 10: who is criticising him knows the pressure this man is under.
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Speaker 2: Kosha, it's curious, isn't it? Because initially the claim was
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Speaker 2: that Macklemore was the one being cancelled. He was the
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Speaker 2: one being victimised. But really, it's Ed Sheeran who is
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Speaker 2: under attack.
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Speaker 5: Macklemore became a martyr, effectively, for that cause. And he
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Speaker 5: sort of matters more in the national discourse than he
30:54
Speaker 5: had for 10 years. No one really was paying attention
30:56
Speaker 5: to him. And they won't for much longer. But he's
30:59
Speaker 5: come out of this, I think, with something personally gained,
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Speaker 5: whereas Ed Sheeran is only coming out of it losing.
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Speaker 5: He's in a no-win situation. He didn't even ask for it.
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Speaker 5: Maybe he should have vetted his opening acts.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I blame his management, really, because Macklemore is rabid.
31:14
Speaker 2: He's not just your everyday celebrity who says a few
31:18
Speaker 2: controversial things on stage like a lot of them do.
31:21
Speaker 2: They've all got this leftist worldview and you can expect
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Speaker 2: to hear a few words at any concert. Macklemore's taking
31:29
Speaker 2: it to a whole new level. He's done Jew face.
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Speaker 2: He's worn this hook nose and this entire outfit that
31:36
Speaker 2: I think rightly has been described as anti-Semitic. So When
31:40
Speaker 2: you have someone like that opening for you, then you
31:44
Speaker 2: kind of sign up for his politics as well.
31:46
Speaker 5: And I didn't know that about him until the story
31:47
Speaker 5: and I Googled that and then all those images were
31:49
Speaker 5: coming back. So absolutely, the management didn't bet that. They
31:52
Speaker 5: probably should have come forward and taken a mea culpa
31:54
Speaker 5: and stepped in to shield Ed Sheeran. But I guess
31:57
Speaker 5: the argument is it's your concert. Ultimately, you sign off
31:59
Speaker 5: and he's getting a lesson in betting. For sure, he's
32:02
Speaker 5: getting a lesson in how this really is a no-win situation.
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Speaker 5: They're pressuring him. He might be too big to cancel.
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Speaker 2: He is too big to cancel. But you know what?
32:11
Speaker 2: I've always said once he made the mistake, once he
32:15
Speaker 2: had Macklemore as his opening act, he should have just
32:19
Speaker 2: come out and said his politics don't represent mine as
32:23
Speaker 2: opposed to then axing him because I think there is
32:27
Speaker 2: an argument there that Macklemore is being victimised for his
32:30
Speaker 2: politics even though he's using someone else's stage to spread
32:35
Speaker 2: that politics. I don't like that. And I've seen that
32:38
Speaker 2: happen with other artists that have been cancelled. And I
32:43
Speaker 2: think it's actually a counterproductive message. It breeds more hate.
32:49
Speaker 2: And I've always said that even when Kanye West has
32:53
Speaker 2: said some crazy things, done some crazy stuff, I think
32:56
Speaker 2: the way to handle it is not to make him
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Speaker 2: persona non grata. I think that just makes him, like
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Speaker 2: you said, a bit of a martyr.
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Speaker 7: Right.
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Speaker 5: And just it reminded me of Dolly Parton. There was
33:08
Speaker 5: this thing when she passed away that was going around
33:10
Speaker 5: where they were pressuring her to come out against Trump
33:12
Speaker 5: after the Access Hollywood thing. And she just said, I
33:14
Speaker 5: don't do politics. Don't ask me. I'm an entertainer. If
33:16
Speaker 5: he had just kept it like that, instead of doing
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Speaker 5: this lengthy statement about the war and both sides and
33:21
Speaker 5: saying he doesn't know which side to pick and now
33:23
Speaker 5: he's giving donations and won some cause, it's just becoming
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Speaker 5: bigger and bigger.
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Speaker 2: They were never going to be satisfied. They were never
33:29
Speaker 2: going to, as soon as also he mentioned October 7,
33:31
Speaker 2: it didn't matter if there was one mention of October
33:34
Speaker 2: 7 and then three minutes of condemning what's happening in
33:40
Speaker 2: Gaza and saying it's disproportionate, that was still going to
33:43
Speaker 2: come for him. So he was not going to please
33:45
Speaker 2: the haters by that statement. And, again, it was a
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Speaker 2: written statement that was, you could see him reading it
33:52
Speaker 2: from the autocue. So his management are not doing him
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Speaker 2: any favours. Now, this is an unbelievable story, Kosha. Lawyers
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Speaker 2: for Lindsay Clancy have asked a judge to investigate the
34:05
Speaker 2: conduct of the lone juror who wanted to convict the
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Speaker 2: mother of murder for murdering her three defenceless children, the
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Speaker 2: youngest just eight months old. And Kosha, get this, Clancy's
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Speaker 2: lawyers have also asked the judge to dismiss the criminal
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Speaker 2: case claiming any retrial of would violate her double jeopardy rights.
34:26
Speaker 2: Double jeopardy, of course, is trying someone for crimes they've
34:30
Speaker 2: already been acquitted of.
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Speaker 5: Acquitted.
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Speaker 2: She wasn't acquitted. That's the whole point. These lawyers missed
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Speaker 2: the day they taught law at law school. What are
34:38
Speaker 2: they on about with this attempt to stop a retrial?
34:42
Speaker 5: This lawyer also was running around on TV asking for
34:45
Speaker 5: a pardon from President Trump, which also doesn't make sense
34:47
Speaker 5: because this is a state trial and the president doesn't
34:50
Speaker 5: have pardon powers at the state level.
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Speaker 2: Are they just hungry for media attention, any media attention,
34:55
Speaker 2: even if it makes them look stupid? Because that request
34:59
Speaker 2: for a pardon was particularly idiotic because, as you said.
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Speaker 2: Even if the president wanted to issue a pardon, he's
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Speaker 2: not able to.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 5: It's at the state level. So maybe they're just itching
35:11
Speaker 5: for media attention. That could be part of it. Or
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Speaker 5: the more cynical part of me thinks he's actually quite smart,
35:15
Speaker 5: this lawyer. He has a good record of representing his
35:18
Speaker 5: clients in defences very well. Look, he got 11 jurors
35:22
Speaker 5: to almost acquit her.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but we've seen those jurors since. And frankly, they are.
35:28
Speaker 5: The witches of Macbeth, I call them.
35:29
Speaker 2: They are your affluent white female leftist activist types. One
35:34
Speaker 2: of them admitted that they looked at this trial as
35:37
Speaker 2: a means of sending a message. I mean, that is
35:39
Speaker 2: not the job of a juror.
35:41
Speaker 5: But he played a role in jury selection and the
35:43
Speaker 5: prosecution allowed... The.
35:45
Speaker 2: Jury to take the shape that they did. The prosecution
35:46
Speaker 2: needs to be investigated for allowing those jurors to be selected.
35:50
Speaker 5: He maybe has some smarts and I think what he's
35:52
Speaker 5: trying to do with this is it is juror intimidation
35:56
Speaker 5: of this juror and a future juror.
35:57
Speaker 2: That's the key.
35:58
Speaker 5: Even if they won't succeed in this because, as you said,
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Speaker 5: she wasn't acquitted, so there is no double jeopardy at all.
36:03
Speaker 5: And he knows that. Of course he knows that. That's
36:06
Speaker 5: what he's doing. He's sending a message that if this
36:07
Speaker 5: goes back to trial and the prosecution is still deliberating
36:10
Speaker 5: whether to do that or not, I think everybody hopes
36:12
Speaker 5: that they will, you better find her not guilty by
36:15
Speaker 5: reason of insanity or we will come for you and
36:17
Speaker 5: we will destroy your life the way they're destroying the life.
36:19
Speaker 2: Of Well, I hope this man gets some support. I
36:22
Speaker 2: know there's now GoFundMe for him because he needs security.
36:26
Speaker 2: These absolute lunatics are threatening his family and himself. So
36:32
Speaker 2: hopefully this doesn't taint a future jury pool who's going
36:36
Speaker 2: to be too terrified to take part in this process.
36:39
Speaker 2: And that's just going to be.
36:42
Speaker 2: Undermining the criminal justice system even more. Now, before you go,
36:45
Speaker 2: I want to talk about the right-wing party, Alternative for Deutschland.
36:50
Speaker 2: They have had another strong result in state elections in Germany,
36:54
Speaker 2: and that spells bad news for Chancellor Friedrich Merz. Indeed,
36:58
Speaker 2: AFD leader Alice Weedle thinks his days are numbered.
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Speaker 5: BBC News. How long do you think Friedrich Merz has left?
37:08
Speaker 2: Pretty soon he's going to leave.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, you think so?
37:12
Speaker 2: Kosha, tell me about this latest result. I've got to say,
37:16
Speaker 2: Weedle looked supremely confident there. She looked very happy with herself.
37:20
Speaker 5: She said so little and so much still, very assuredly.
37:25
Speaker 5: More state elections that are continuing the trend of what
37:27
Speaker 5: we talked about last time, where we just have exit polling.
37:30
Speaker 5: The counts aren't in yet, but they are gaining ground.
37:33
Speaker 5: Not as close as a state election, where they just
37:35
Speaker 5: were shy of an absolute majority by two seats, but
37:38
Speaker 5: still they are ascendant. I think 24% or so of
37:42
Speaker 5: the vote, far more than this party.
37:43
Speaker 2: And bizarrely, the Greens are doing well as well. So
37:45
Speaker 2: you've got the two sides.
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Speaker 10: Yes.
37:47
Speaker 2: So very interesting times for Germany right now. Kasia Gaider,
37:51
Speaker 2: it's always a pleasure.
37:52
Speaker 5: Thank you. Pleasure.
37:53
Speaker 2: Still to come, all the royal and entertainment news, including
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Speaker 2: Charles Spencer's veiled threats against King Charles. Michael Loftus has
38:02
Speaker 2: the details. Welcome back. Now, Charles Spencer has defended the
38:14
Speaker 2: allegations he's made against King Charles, saying he is committed
38:18
Speaker 2: to honouring Princess Diana's legacy. He also told People magazine
38:23
Speaker 2: he's got plenty more juice on the King. Have a listen.
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Speaker 7: I took a very clear line. This is what I'm
38:29
Speaker 7: prepared to say. This is correct in terms of the
38:32
Speaker 7: story of Diana's life that I'm portraying. If I wanted
38:36
Speaker 7: to write a scandalous book about Prince Charles or King
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Speaker 7: Charles as he is now, it would really be a jaw-dropper,
38:43
Speaker 7: but I'm not here to do that. I'm sure Buckingham
38:47
Speaker 7: Palace will criticise me for putting anything about the King
38:50
Speaker 7: in the book. They should just be very grateful I
38:52
Speaker 7: didn't put what I know about him in it.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is comedian and host of the Loftus
38:58
Speaker 2: Party podcast, Michael Loftus. Michael, that sounded like a veiled
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Speaker 2: threat to me. Perhaps he wants to save some of
39:07
Speaker 2: that juicy material for the next book because I hear
39:11
Speaker 2: he's got a lot of ex-wives and they may have
39:13
Speaker 2: drained his finances.
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Speaker 10: Over the years.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm pretty sure the working title of this book
39:21
Speaker 8: was I Really Need the Money. And you you can't
39:24
Speaker 8: you can't tease a book like that you can't go
39:27
Speaker 8: oh if i wanted to write a scandalous book i
39:30
Speaker 8: really could.
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Speaker 9: That's what we want to read you gotta dish the
39:34
Speaker 9: dirt buddy if you want if you're gonna cash in
39:37
Speaker 9: on the the name of diana cash in big hit
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Speaker 9: it one time and go home.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. I think that was possibly the dumbest way to
39:48
Speaker 2: promote the book. Not only does it look like he's
39:51
Speaker 2: threatening the king, but anyone who's thinking of buying this
39:55
Speaker 2: is going, well, I'm just getting a watered-down version. This
39:58
Speaker 2: is a sugar-coated version of what he wants us to know,
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Speaker 2: not the whole sordid tale. And it's interesting, there's been
40:04
Speaker 2: some polling done and 65% of Brits so far believe
40:09
Speaker 2: King Charles over the Charles Spencer. So that's interesting. And
40:13
Speaker 2: this may not help him either because British commentator, Piers Morgan,
40:18
Speaker 2: is suing Charles Spencer and the publishers of his memoir
40:21
Speaker 2: over what he says are fabricated inaccuracies. Well, they seem
40:25
Speaker 2: to be. In his book, Spencer claims he was the editor,
40:29
Speaker 2: Piers Morgan was the editor of the Daily Mirror, where
40:32
Speaker 2: he used hidden cameras to publish photographs of Diana working
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Speaker 2: out in a gymnasium back in 1993. We all probably
40:41
Speaker 2: remember those photos. But Piers Morgan points out he joined
40:45
Speaker 2: the Daily Mirror in October 1995, two years later. He's
40:50
Speaker 2: demanded that the offending passages and photographs be removed and
40:55
Speaker 2: he has demanded also damages, Michael. I wonder if Charles
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Speaker 2: Spencer just put his name in the book because he's
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Speaker 2: somebody and whoever was actually editor at the time doesn't
41:08
Speaker 2: have a profile. And let's not forget, Charles Spencer holds
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Speaker 2: himself out to be a credible journalist and a credible historian.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, very credible, who's written a very, I guess, boring,
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Speaker 9: run-of-the-mill book.
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Speaker 8: Oh, Diana and I used to go shopping for socks,
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Speaker 8: and it was really— sometimes she liked to knee-eye. It's just— give.
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Speaker 2: Me the big book.
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Speaker 8: And Piers Morgan, I don't want to go toe-to-toe with
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Speaker 8: Piers Morgan.
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Speaker 9: I've met him a couple times. He's a big fella,
41:39
Speaker 9: and if Piers Morgan said he wasn't there, I kind
41:42
Speaker 9: of believe him.
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Speaker 8: This guy— This Charles Spencer guy, he might just be name-dropping.
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Speaker 8: Let's check his memory. I don't think it's photographic.
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Speaker 2: Well, obviously not. He says that he was an eyewitness
41:57
Speaker 2: to history and he's got a duty to document what
42:01
Speaker 2: he saw and heard. But, yes, some of that documentation
42:04
Speaker 2: seems to be off. And, Michael, we've got more bad
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Speaker 2: news for the royals. I don't know how much more
42:09
Speaker 2: they can take. Now it seems that Prince Harry... is
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Speaker 2: considering a number of projects to mark the 30th anniversary
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Speaker 2: of Princess Diana's death. The most likely option seems to
42:19
Speaker 2: be a documentary about Diana, although nothing has been confirmed. Michael,
42:25
Speaker 2: sources told The Telegraph UK that Harry has already been
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Speaker 2: putting out feelers with family and friends. What's your take
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Speaker 2: on this?
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Speaker 8: It's just amazing how many people are still cashing in
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Speaker 8: off of Diana. Is no one in this family good
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Speaker 8: with money? Does no one save? What they need is
42:49
Speaker 8: like a 401k book for these royals. Evidently, they just
42:54
Speaker 8: think money grows on trees and they go through it.
42:57
Speaker 8: And if they run out of money, oh, they'll do
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Speaker 8: a new book or a documentary about Diana. It's really ghoulish.
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Speaker 8: It's hard to believe. If you had to explain this
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Speaker 8: to a time.
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Speaker 9: Traveler, You know, that, oh, 30 years ago or whatever,
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Speaker 9: Princess Diana died and people are still trying to cash.
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Speaker 1: In on her name.
43:15
Speaker 9: It's just sad.
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Speaker 2: It really is, and particularly for Prince Harry because that
43:20
Speaker 2: seems to have become his entire identity, that and fleeing
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Speaker 2: the UK in terror only to return a couple of
43:27
Speaker 2: years later.
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Speaker 9: Just.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I would just want him to be consistent.
43:32
Speaker 2: Even if he's going down the wrong road, just stay
43:34
Speaker 2: on the road for a little bit of time. Now
43:37
Speaker 2: let's talk about the NFL. Travis Kelsey scored a touchdown
43:41
Speaker 2: for the Kansas City Chiefs in overtime. And, of course,
43:46
Speaker 2: Taylor Swift was there in the crowd. Let's look at
43:48
Speaker 2: her reaction. Yep, she's saying, that's my husband. Michael, she's
43:59
Speaker 2: been accused of being painfully performative and making this all
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Speaker 2: about herself.
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Speaker 8: I tell you, I'm going to probably get a lot
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Speaker 8: of hateful comments about this.
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Speaker 2: I love this.
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Speaker 8: This seems so genuine, and I like seeing Taylor being proud, oh,
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Speaker 8: that's my husband, because I'll do stuff around the house,
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Speaker 8: and my wife will point at another finger and say,
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Speaker 8: that's my husband.
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Speaker 9: And I'm like, no, you're supposed to love me.
44:28
Speaker 2: I'm like, I killed that spider.
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Speaker 9: I cleaned out the gutters. That's my husband.
44:35
Speaker 2: Michael, I cannot believe that your wife is being ungrateful.
44:38
Speaker 2: I mean, it is just not good enough these days.
44:40
Speaker 2: Now let's talk about some NASCAR action. There was a
44:43
Speaker 2: race in Bristol and during the race, Carson Josevar crashed
44:48
Speaker 2: into Ryan Blaney's car and then the pair punched on.
44:53
Speaker 2: This is something. Wowee. I know I'm supposed to condemn
45:15
Speaker 2: that sort of violence, but I've got to say I
45:17
Speaker 2: kind of like it. If we can get a cross
45:20
Speaker 2: between NASCAR and UFC, that will work, Michael.
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Speaker 8: It'll work. It'll be great. And I'm right there with you.
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Speaker 8: This should be its own sport. You do a couple laps.
45:31
Speaker 8: You pull over.
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Speaker 9: You box. You do a couple laps.
45:34
Speaker 8: You start drinking.
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Speaker 9: You do a couple laps. Whoever's left standing at the end.
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Speaker 2: I like it.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, NASCAR boxing, NASCAR UFC with some booze. We find
45:43
Speaker 8: a whiskey sponsor. We're going to make a fortune, Rita.
45:46
Speaker 8: We're not going to need to write a book about
45:48
Speaker 8: Princess Diana. We've got NASCAR UFC.
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Speaker 2: We should take this to Dana White immediately.
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Speaker 5: You know what?
45:55
Speaker 2: They've got decathlon with all these different elements. Why not that?
45:59
Speaker 2: That would actually be far more entertaining than whatever decathlon involves. Now,
46:04
Speaker 2: this is a heartwarming story. One of my favourite actors,
46:07
Speaker 2: Batman star Christian Bale, has opened up a foster care
46:11
Speaker 2: village in California. The $ 22 million village is designed to
46:16
Speaker 2: keep siblings together. Michael, this is just a beautiful story.
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Speaker 2: I can't even find a way to hate on this.
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it's really wonderful.
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Speaker 12: It's great.
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Speaker 8: It has nothing to do with politics or Christian Bale
46:31
Speaker 8: picking sides. It's just him doing a great thing, keeping
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Speaker 8: these families together through a really troubling time.
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Speaker 9: I would hope he'd take it a step further.
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Speaker 8: I would hope that one of these homes comes with
46:43
Speaker 8: a butler named Alfred and there's a hidden compartment and
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Speaker 8: a kid can go down to find a secret cave
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Speaker 8: with a car and computers. Just let's just make all
46:53
Speaker 8: the dreams come true.
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Speaker 2: I love that. Why not? Just have some surprises in there.
46:59
Speaker 2: And before you go, this story has generated a lot
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Speaker 2: of debate. Brad Pitt recently admitted that he has started
47:06
Speaker 2: drinking again, but a source close to Brad Pitt told
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Speaker 2: the Daily Mail that he never really had a drinking problem.
47:15
Speaker 2: He had an Angelina problem. The source went on to
47:19
Speaker 2: say the divorce from Angelina was bad, but the alienation
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Speaker 2: from his children was the worst thing that ever happened
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Speaker 2: to him. Now he's gone from pain and hurt to acceptance. Michael,
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Speaker 2: what do you think about that? That it was not
47:36
Speaker 2: an alcoholic issue. It was not over drinking, having a
47:40
Speaker 2: substance abuse issue. It was a Angelina issue. Is that unfair?
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Speaker 9: It's completely unfair.
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Speaker 8: And I think I think Brad Pitt would be the
47:51
Speaker 8: first guy to tell you because he got into a
47:53
Speaker 8: 12-step program.
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Speaker 2: So I hope it all.
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Speaker 8: Works out for him. I wish him nothing but the best.
47:59
Speaker 8: And I think maybe there's a country western song there.
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Speaker 8: I must admit, I got an Angelina problem. Brad Pitt
48:07
Speaker 8: makes really good movies when he's sober. I hope he
48:09
Speaker 8: makes good movies when he's back on the sauce.
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Speaker 9: We need more good movies.
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Speaker 2: We do. I know the Alcoholics Anonymous program, they don't
48:20
Speaker 2: like you drinking in moderation even, do they? Once you've
48:25
Speaker 2: declared you're an alcoholic, you're supposed to steer clear of
48:28
Speaker 2: it completely, not a single drop. So that's why this
48:31
Speaker 2: story has generated a lot of debate and we'll keep
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Speaker 2: an eye on it. Oh, wow. Michael Loftus, always a pleasure.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. And that's it
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Speaker 2: from me. Up next, it's Late Edition.
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Speaker 10: We'll be right back.