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Brewsers #375- 2 Scoop Tommy Test · Brewsers

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Bruisers podcast about be Her Coffee, Booze and Bruisers.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Rodi John and today we talked
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  Speaker 1: to two Scoops Tommy Tests. We talked about how he
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  Speaker 1: got into wrestling, going through adversities, and so much more.
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  Speaker 1: Tommy has done so much in the world of pro
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  Speaker 1: wrestling and he's just getting started. But his story is
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  Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic, so you definitely want to check it out.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to hear from me, you want to
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  Speaker 1: hear from him. So without further ado, here is Two
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  Speaker 1: Scoops Tommy Tests. I would like to welcome the show
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  Speaker 1: Two Scoops Tommy Test.
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  Speaker 2: How you doing today, sir good Man, Thank you for
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  Speaker 2: having me, Thanks for coming on. Yeah, but a little
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  Speaker 2: peak behind the curtain. We had a little Zoom issues,
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna blame Zoom mainly because you know, nobody
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  Speaker 2: knew who they were before twenty twenty and now we
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  Speaker 2: have to pay for it and all kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 2: So but anyway, for those listening kind of pinish the
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  Speaker 2: word picture, where you're at and what's going on around you.
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  Speaker 3: I am currently in Albuquerque, in New Mexico. I just
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  Speaker 3: got home from the gym. I'm drinking my protein shit,
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  Speaker 3: go hair, I got one scoop right here at thirty grave,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna join the rest of my evening. I
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  Speaker 3: don't have wrestling training tonight. I got my lift in already.
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  Speaker 3: I am done for the rest of the night.
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  Speaker 2: Now, are you a full time wrestler or do you
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  Speaker 2: gotta shoot job as well?
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  Speaker 3: I'm about like a nine full time wrestler. But Nice
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  Speaker 3: do work out of the gym, doing some clients, personal
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  Speaker 3: training stuff like that. But I have over a decade
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  Speaker 3: of its working in the gym.
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  Speaker 2: Right, How long? So you've been wrestling about five years now, right?
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  Speaker 3: Officially? Yeah, I started training in twenty nineteen, so a
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  Speaker 3: year and a half would be what training took. And
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  Speaker 3: I mean since then, it's been five years about consistently
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  Speaker 3: on the road.
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  Speaker 2: Nice, how has the what was it for you? I
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  Speaker 2: guess that when you were finally like, okay, I can
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  Speaker 2: just I can just do this now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's a lot of different things, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't do I make enough money to do with the
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  Speaker 3: rest in the pay of my rent. Sure, yes, what's
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  Speaker 3: a pleasure because I can do it without even leaving
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  Speaker 3: my city. But I mean, there's a lot of other
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  Speaker 3: things that I also do, so I don't just do
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  Speaker 3: this and that every day a different mission. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like a jump like I thought I was going to be.
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  Speaker 3: I know people that do cut that part of time. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm a personal trainer to make my own schedule,
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  Speaker 3: so I just for my my schedule, my whole schedule
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  Speaker 3: around wrestling. Wrestling's number one, that's the priority, you know,
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  Speaker 3: gym number two, and then number three would be money.
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  Speaker 3: But that's just the way it worked out for me.
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  Speaker 3: But everything I do does pay me at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. Yeah, I'm always curious when you know, when the
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  Speaker 2: men and women kind of make the decision Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: obviously I'm making this much now, so and that is
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  Speaker 2: more than I'm getting in my regular job or whatever
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  Speaker 2: it is. And then obviously, you know, making that decision, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: this is it. This is all I'm doing now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be nice to be under a contract
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  Speaker 3: so I could be very comfortable doing this. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I still live in a one bedroom apartment, you know.
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  Speaker 3: That being said, I'm looking forward to that day where
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  Speaker 3: I could tell my wife, you know, and myself, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: like you don't have to go to work anymore. You
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  Speaker 3: could go to school full time or or something like that,
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  Speaker 3: or you could get your own business.
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  Speaker 2: Now yeah, hey there, you gotta put it out there
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  Speaker 2: with manifestation.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's proving me right so many times.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let's go all the way back in time. What
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  Speaker 2: is your earliest memory of wrestling?
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  Speaker 3: Earliest memory, I mean, one of my first words was
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  Speaker 3: the rock. Growing up in the youngest of three brothers,
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  Speaker 3: it's all boys. My dad, you know, big restling guy.
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  Speaker 3: And my first word was I call my oldest brother guy,
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  Speaker 3: and I call him guy as my first word, and
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  Speaker 3: my second word was the rock. So as far as
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  Speaker 3: I can remember, you know, my blankets as a child
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  Speaker 3: was the Rock. Yeah, lots of stuff like that. I
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  Speaker 3: grew up watching it religiously, you know, every Friday, every Monday.
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  Speaker 3: That was the highlight of my day. With my brothers
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  Speaker 3: and my dad. My mom never really cared too much.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she'd be supportive of the wrestling, but that
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  Speaker 3: wasn't her thing. But it's a way that my brothers
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  Speaker 3: and my dad all bonded. And then my dad's dad
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  Speaker 3: wanted to be a wrestler, so he never got to
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  Speaker 3: do that, but he would record back in a VHS tapes.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 3: My room was the room that had the VCR. So
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  Speaker 3: that's where you know, I'd watched my go to entertainment
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  Speaker 3: or Joy was watching wrestling tapes right since I was
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  Speaker 3: a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Now, was it all WWF at the time or was it?
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  Speaker 2: Did you end up finding out other wrestling as well?
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  Speaker 3: So actually there was like very little WWF.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it was.
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  Speaker 3: Recordings from like ninety five, ninety six, ninety seven, ninety four,
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  Speaker 3: WCW ninety five Fall Brawl my three of all time.
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  Speaker 3: But that's when that sticks out to me. There was
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  Speaker 3: a couple of w WWF recordings, and of course I
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  Speaker 3: watched ww on on Mondays and Friday SmackDown, Raw whatever,
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  Speaker 3: But that was like the new I mean that was
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  Speaker 3: I didn't know the difference really, and I know independent
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  Speaker 3: wrestling existed, new WCW was a thing, not anymore. I
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  Speaker 3: mean I was born nineteen ninety eight, so I knew
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  Speaker 3: about them. Don't remember them, but I knew about them
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  Speaker 3: because of the BHS tapes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always curious because I mean, obviously depending like
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  Speaker 2: you said, you were born in Andy eight, so like
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  Speaker 2: when people like how they obviously what area they're they're
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  Speaker 2: living in, and like what TV was happening, and you
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  Speaker 2: know all that. So I'm always curious how they other
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  Speaker 2: people find out wrestling.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean back in the day, it was Spike TV,
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  Speaker 3: and then what is the other one? WW was on
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  Speaker 3: USA Network and before that they were also on T
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  Speaker 3: and T I believe or that was Turner, that was WCW.
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  Speaker 3: But I mean we always had direct TV. Grew up
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  Speaker 3: on a ranch, Yeah, so that was nice. You know.
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  Speaker 3: I would look through it all the channels looking for wrestling.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't care in the Spanish and my dad and
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  Speaker 3: I would actually we'd find on random weekends going up,
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  Speaker 3: we watched Triple A CMA on the local channels, I
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  Speaker 3: mean in New Mexico, so we got a lot of
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  Speaker 3: that kind of stuff too, And so almost every day
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  Speaker 3: I would look for something. I remember when I was
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  Speaker 3: in high school, I didn't even have WiFi. We didn't
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  Speaker 3: get Wi Fi in the ratche until I was eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: So when I worst went to college, my parents got
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  Speaker 3: it for recent for my brothers and I to come
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  Speaker 3: home and do homework. But we had a satellite internet
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  Speaker 3: that was awful. You couldn't do anything on it. So
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  Speaker 3: we finally got internet and I could finally watch the indies.
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  Speaker 3: But before that there was no internets. I would have
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  Speaker 3: watched you know, SmackDown, NXT, rob looch Underground on Wednesdays.
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  Speaker 3: I had my whole schedule around just watching wrestling on
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  Speaker 3: the TV without the wifis. I watched it six seven
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  Speaker 3: days a week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've sent it multiple times on the show.
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  Speaker 2: But if I was growing up now, I probably would
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  Speaker 2: not go outside because I would just be watching wrestling.
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  Speaker 2: Considering like especially now, like you have literally everything in
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  Speaker 2: the history of wrestling at your fingertips at all times,
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  Speaker 2: and you could have multiple screens going on. Obviously you're
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  Speaker 2: not consuming it properly because you're just watching all of
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  Speaker 2: these different wrestlings. But like you could literally watch everything,
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  Speaker 2: and you wouldn't have you didn't have to watch anything else.
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  Speaker 3: I miss Peacock. I mean, I missed the original WW
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  Speaker 3: network because stuff was so much more convenient. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: thigum Rock. Netflix has a cool thing, but I had
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  Speaker 3: talked about fall on ninety eight. That's not on Netflix.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I could find broken up videos with tons
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  Speaker 3: of ads on YouTube, but it's not that all sit
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  Speaker 3: down and watch a paper viewer like I used to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I'm a big fan of physical media, So DVDs
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  Speaker 3: I've collecked wrestling DVDs I have. They don't even make
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  Speaker 3: them anymore. Really, that's kind of sad. But and that's
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  Speaker 3: one thing is I noticed. This is like a whole
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  Speaker 3: side topic, but about physical media, specifically with wrestling, they
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  Speaker 3: are able to change so many things nowadays. Commentary wise
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  Speaker 3: cut you out matches from WrestleMania. So whatever you see
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  Speaker 3: on Netflix or wherever that database is now, it's not
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  Speaker 3: what it was when I first watched it ten years ago.
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  Speaker 3: So like it's kind of different to see like the original,
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  Speaker 3: which how do I know my original two thousand and
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  Speaker 3: five copy is the original of nineteen eighty five, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So it's everything's watered down through the convenience
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  Speaker 3: of it. So is it nice? Absolutely? Do I watch
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  Speaker 3: wrestling every single day almost all day? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But like.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's kind of I think about this kind of
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  Speaker 3: stuff because I mean, I've done all these seminars and
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  Speaker 3: that's one of the most important things is you got
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  Speaker 3: to protect the entire business. And that means literally his
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  Speaker 3: history keeping history, you know, because the history is going
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  Speaker 3: to change whether we like it or not.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, like you know, history is written by
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  Speaker 2: the winners, not by the losers.
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  Speaker 3: No, absolutely, that's very true. You can say a lot
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  Speaker 3: about what the Money Night War is how that panned out,
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  Speaker 3: because I I remember playing a video game like with
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  Speaker 3: ww twok whatever when it was when I wore the
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  Speaker 3: diition back when I was in high school. And then
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  Speaker 3: I remember watching documentaries as an adult. I'm like, this
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  Speaker 3: isn't how I remembered it. Yeah, No, this is not
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  Speaker 3: I remember it at all.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I watched some of documentaries and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I lived it, and I'm like, that's not how that went.
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  Speaker 3: And no, we weren't.
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  Speaker 2: All like oh fuck damn. We were all like, no,
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  Speaker 2: great wrestling all the time, and it's it's great, Like
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  Speaker 2: obviously the first hour of Nitro was going to be
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  Speaker 2: your Lucha doors probably nWo promo and maybe some other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: But then you know, second hour they're going head to head,
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  Speaker 2: so then they're having to go you know, even harder,
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  Speaker 2: and so of course, like, no, none of that worked
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  Speaker 2: the way they say it is.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I'm fortunate enough to be around TV.
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  Speaker 3: I'm you know, extra work for all the major companies,
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  Speaker 3: and I've learned and I'm stay there, you know, eyes open,
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  Speaker 3: mouth shut, and I'm trying to soak it all in.
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  Speaker 3: And it's crazy to see the amount of production effort
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  Speaker 3: goes into, like specifically tapings, Yeah, because what you see
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  Speaker 3: on screen is almost like a puzzle piece. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 3: it's very it's so much work. It's it's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of hard work. And the product you get, you know,
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  Speaker 3: people love where the product or hate the product, but
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  Speaker 3: that product had days, hours of time into segments, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and and it's beautiful, but like it's it's hard, it's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of work. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well I always heard like Vince, I mean, Vince was
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  Speaker 2: never somebody Vince McMahon, not reso. I don't like to
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  Speaker 2: talk about Russo will talk enough about himself to uh
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  Speaker 2: for everybody else. But he also loves me Bro. Good
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  Speaker 2: for you, Bro. He's one of the He's on a
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  Speaker 2: short list of people I don't ever want on this show,
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  Speaker 2: mainly for the fact that I don't want to hear
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  Speaker 2: Bro a thousand times within whatever span. So anyway, Uh, Vince,
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  Speaker 2: you always hear vinsick Man would never be happy with anything.
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  Speaker 2: He would never like celebrate anything. He would be like, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: finish that, let's go to the next week whatever it is.
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  Speaker 2: So the Monday after would be written, you know normally
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  Speaker 2: that Tuesday morning or whatever. And then of course we
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  Speaker 2: always hear it got changed a thousand times that Monday
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  Speaker 2: morning as well, so you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, absolutely, And that's one thing if you're doing just
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  Speaker 3: one weekly episodic show and you know, but a lot
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  Speaker 3: of times you're filming two three weeks of TV.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like I was the TV. I was listening to
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  Speaker 2: Jared's podcast this morning, and I forgot about the fact
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  Speaker 2: that T and A would you know, back in the day,
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  Speaker 2: would record like two or three you know, weeks in
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  Speaker 2: a row. And I was like, fuck, Like that's.
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  Speaker 3: How we do it. Yeah, that's still how they do it.
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  Speaker 3: And they're the most fun weekends ever. As a fan, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I want I would like to experience that as a fan.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember I was in Atlanta doing the Komba Loop,
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  Speaker 3: right and we did like a three day taping Dell
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  Speaker 3: and it's a tryout and it's a whole deal, and
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  Speaker 3: they're very you learn, so much and they're kind of
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  Speaker 3: hard to get on. But I've been fortunate to do
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  Speaker 3: a couple of loops and they are just the most
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  Speaker 3: you're gonna work. You are going to fill it for
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  Speaker 3: the full week. You know, I'm not exaggerated when I
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  Speaker 3: say at thirty thousand steps a day a minimum to
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  Speaker 3: these big arenas and stuff, and it is just like again,
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  Speaker 3: it's it's so much work. But I was able to
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  Speaker 3: sit back and like watch some stuff from Afar and
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  Speaker 3: my jobs were done, and I could almost say, like man,
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  Speaker 3: the ten year old, the twelve year old, the sixteen
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  Speaker 3: year old me would have killed to be in those
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  Speaker 3: chairs right now watching this line. That's how much I
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  Speaker 3: love wrestling. Yeah, so I got to experience that a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, and you know, and we never got much
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  Speaker 3: anything out here in New Mexico. We got a couple
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  Speaker 3: of house shows. We got our first ever Monday night
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  Speaker 3: raw ever this January. He never had a raw there
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  Speaker 3: before until this year, so crazy, our first one and
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  Speaker 3: they sold out. So growing up, we never got live wrestling.
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  Speaker 3: I never got experience that. I had to grow up
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  Speaker 3: and become a wrestler to experience that. And then a
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  Speaker 3: part of me after that was like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 3: that magic, this is those nerves.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was lucky enough to do some backstage stuff for
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  Speaker 2: like NWA when they were here, I think the first time,
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  Speaker 2: and I was just like in my head, I was like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm backstage at a wrestling show, like sixteen year
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  Speaker 2: old me lose his fucking mind. And also Billy Corgan's
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  Speaker 2: right there, like the lead singer of the Smashing Pumpkins,
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  Speaker 2: who happens to own this wrestling company. Then I'm also
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  Speaker 2: at like, what world am I living in right now?
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  Speaker 3: I felt the same exact way when I met Billy.
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  Speaker 2: Or was around Billy William as he introduces himself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it's just like wow, sometimes you gotta
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  Speaker 3: reflect and in the moment, I'm always I don't realize
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  Speaker 3: until the next day or so really yeah, especially because
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  Speaker 3: on the independent circuit, you know, there's so many times
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  Speaker 3: where I drive six hours, give it all I got, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: pack up the merchant. Then I drive six hours home
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  Speaker 3: and by the time I get almost three in the morning,
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  Speaker 3: gets what work at six? Work at five, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't have that time to register what even happened,
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  Speaker 3: especially like weekday shows. And I gotta be a work
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  Speaker 3: a Friday morning. Still, sometimes you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that, or you're telling a friend and they're like
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  Speaker 2: they're freaking out, and you're like, oh, I guess that
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  Speaker 2: was really cool. But again, like you said, in your head,
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  Speaker 2: that's another day happened.
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  Speaker 3: That moment had been to me today.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, well, what was your first ever show as a
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  Speaker 2: fan that you went to?
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  Speaker 3: So this is beaking way back into my my wormhole here,
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  Speaker 3: but basically, there was a show in my small town
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  Speaker 3: thirty minutes away Las Vegas, New Mexico that happened when
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  Speaker 3: I was around three four years old that I don't
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  Speaker 3: really remember, but my brain kind of remembers the snippet
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  Speaker 3: of it. Okay, but it has a bunch of legends,
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  Speaker 3: and I grew up with the so much professional wrestling
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  Speaker 3: means in small towns is. I grew up my entire
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  Speaker 3: life hearing about that show. Everyone in town talked about it,
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  Speaker 3: They all knew about it, but I don't remember it.
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  Speaker 3: So that was took my first one. I went to
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  Speaker 3: live events. At my first ever one in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and seven, we saw a Monday night raw live event,
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  Speaker 3: so it was not a live raw, but it was
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  Speaker 3: the Rock Crew doing a live event at the pit
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  Speaker 3: here in Albuquerque, the UNN Basketball Stadium. And funny story,
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  Speaker 3: even back then, there's no GPS and we're coming in
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  Speaker 3: one hundred miles ninety minutes from the ranch to the
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  Speaker 3: big city to watch this show, and I am so
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  Speaker 3: nervous and my oldest brother and my dad. There's no
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  Speaker 3: online tickets or you know, we did have internet, you know,
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  Speaker 3: of course, so it was two thousand and seven. So
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  Speaker 3: they went up on the ticket office and they went whatever,
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  Speaker 3: we parked wherever we did, and this was middle of
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  Speaker 3: the day. You know, there's no GPS, there are no smartphones,
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  Speaker 3: and we just kind of know our way around the
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  Speaker 3: big city but that's it, you know, and no cell phones,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, or I mean, not good ones. And
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  Speaker 3: my mom, my middle brother, and myself were in the
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  Speaker 3: car and my mom just goes, hey, there's a couple
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: of wrestlers coming out of those cars. And we accidentally
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: parked in the same park and that where the wrestlers
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: were parking at across the fence. But we didn't know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: but my dad and my oldest brother were gone looking
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: for tickets. Yeah, so while they did that, my brother,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: my mom and I we got to meet in my
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: first ever wrestling ship that I remember, and I'm you know,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: twousand and seven, was nine years old. Yeah, and I
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: got to meet all my favorite wrestlers and I got
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: to see like who was cool and who was it?
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Really that's a lot that day, and I didn't mean
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: too like it wasn't like nowadays fans go to the airports,
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Like no, this was the most innocent, Like Bobby Lashley
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: was so nice to my mom, you know, stuff like that,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: like genuine interactions, and we weren't like stocking him. It
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: was a surprise. I think that feeling was you know, mutual, like, oh,
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: look at this family. We actually met them all. But
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: that's my first ever core memory, and I remember that
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: show just be blown me away, you know, blown. And
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: I remember that whole show is Randie and Johnson in
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: the main event that night. I remember telling my parents,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna when I grew up, I'm gonna be a
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: wrestler and wrestle with my underwear on TV. And since then,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I mean, that's when for sure, the fire it was
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: always always there. I knew I loved it, but that's
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: when I was like hook And then after that, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: in middle school, a little bit older WW coming to
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: town every other year for a house show, and and
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: we'd go check him out. And my first ever want
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: to be around sh event center. Jack Sweger was getting booed.
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: He was a champion, right and uh so whenever he
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: was the world champion is when this show was. I
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: was in middle school, and I remember the whole crowd
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: was booing him and and you know, I just stand
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: up and I started to tear it from him, and
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: he like this sloped and pointed at me. And I
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: remember that moment of him just pointed at me for
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: a second, I feel to this day, you know, And
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: that's something that my family, Dude, remember that time we
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: looked at your point of gem like crazy. And now
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: I get a wrestle in that same arena. You know,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: that's kind of fun.
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: That's well, I mean, so how did you end up
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: finding the place that you trained at?
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: So this is kind of a crazy, long, dramatic story,
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: but I'll I'll tell it the best way. So basically,
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: I always wanted to do it. When I was sixteen,
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: I told my parents, Yeah, I'm going to find the
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: rest in school, but I didn't really have all the
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: research done. I just knew that was the plan. Yeah,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: because I always don all the documentaries and Stone Cold.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: You got to go to school, you know the aj styles.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: You got to go to school. So I'm like, okay,
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: so I'm eighteen. I go to school on an athletic scholarship,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: pretty good academic scholarship, which to Mexico Higlands University. Stuff
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: didn't work out.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: With the football team shoulder injuries, this o kidd capit cool,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: a lot of little things and basically got kicked off
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: the team.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: Before I even got a chance because they mean, couple
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: my pads on. Yeah, I'm living in the dorm with
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: people I don't really know, going through a bad breakup,
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and it's everything hit me at once, physical, mental, emotional,
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: and I had a dark month, I would say, my
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: first couple of months of college. I went down a
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: wrong path and I was all of a sudden next
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: to cigarettes or not like cigarettes, but I mean like
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: chewing tobacco and beer and you know, drinking a little
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: bit of parting and I'm having fun. And I never
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: smoked any weed or anything, or I don't wanna talk
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: about that in the show, but basically I was just
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: experimenting with life. I was eighteen years old and I
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: was coping with depression and not the best way because
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: I was physically unable to lift weights, which that's been
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a big part of my life, yeah, forever. And I
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: remember going home after class and just like hating school,
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: you know, there was nothing to look forward to because
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: my friends are playing football and I wasn't. And so
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: basically there was this whole situation where this guy. I
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: don't blame this girl, she was getting a loser me,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: but I mean, I'm just a mess. You know, I'm
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: depressed and I'm physically just complaining all the time because
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I never went to the hospital until it was way
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: too late. And I it was a Wednesday night. I
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: never had any social media, never had it internet again.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: So I finally download the Facebook and I said, you
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna make a Facebook and and I did.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: And that night, some guy wearing a cane mask messages
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: me like, came mat a, you're wrestling fan like your brothers,
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: And I was like yeah. So he ended up being
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: a fan that was local and he's like, there's a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: show going on this weekend, this Saturday. Jeff Jarrett's going
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: to be in town. Oh shit. So I called my
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: dad and at this point, this is like you mentioned
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: manifestation earlier. I fully believe because what I felt this day.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: I'll I sometimes cryd and think about it. I'm like,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I'm on the stairs. But basically I go. I called
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: my dad, and my mom's out of town with her dad,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: my grandfather, and my two older brothers are on a
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: trip in Corporate Christie, Texas for the school with Islands
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: who I went together, and they're in a baldy department.
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: So it was just my dad and I. So I
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: called my dad. I'm like, hey, there's a wrestling show.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: I really want to go. And I never really like
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: just go with just him and I like we're cool,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: and I was my best friends, but I was always
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: like all my brothers of the whole family. So him
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: and I just went solo trip and for the first time,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: and I was eighteen years old and I was hanging
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: out with my dad and he wasn't my dad, he
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: was my friend, you know. We brote out, we talked
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: and we bonded, and we go to this indie show
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: and we didn't have tickets. But I actually wanted Facebook
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: drawing for two VIP tickets, and VIP was sold out
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: and it was their anniversary show. It was DW Destiny
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Wrestling Organization, and it's just one of those nights where
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: the first match goes on and I look to my
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: dad and I'm like, I love this. Like I went
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: from the lowest load to that kind of stuffed smiling
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sitting debts in the front row to indie. If
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: you'd have told me a few days ago, four days
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: it goes just happened. I'm like whatever, Like that's not
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: a thing. I didn't even know there was local wrestling
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: in Albuquerque, you know, indies. So finally I went and
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: my dad ended up winning to sign Jeff Jarrett guitar.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, so it's hanging up in his bedroom. You know.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: It's one of those things where then I met a
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: couple of wrestlers in the restroom by accidently, like I'm like, hey,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I've always wanted to do this. I never knew how,
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: and they were like, hey, get Facebook. Message me on
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: Facebook and I'll get you the right person. So I'm like,
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: I just made Facebook like two days ago. Yeah, I
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: got to you, so it'll happen at the same time.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: And then at that point I made up my mind
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: that I was going to be a wrestler, and I
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: started making the right choices with my shoulder recovering. I
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: started working now, and I'd done the bike every day
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: for an hour because I came up her body and
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: then finally went up to the StairMaster, and you know,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: I just wanted to actively stay in shape until my
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: arm go was strong enough, and then I started lifting
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: smaller weights, and then I got to the point where
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: without surgery, without anything, I recovered after years were broken
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: collarbone on my own because the NCAA wasn't in the
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: paper it anymore, of course, So then I joined the
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: rugby team for the full intention of breaking my collarbone
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: so the incident could pay for it then. And I
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: never broke it, but I broke seven other collarbones from
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: other people, and I ended up win a national championship
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: on twenty nineteen two. And at that point that was
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: May twenty nineteen. In March of twenty nineteen, I actually
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I was doing my research and I was finishing up
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: my junior year of high school of college going into
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: my college senior year, and I'd had this moment where
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I was about to be a teacher, and I knew
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: I would not teachers are so overworked and so underpaid,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: and I just knew I would not be happy if
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I didn't get myself the honest shot. Because for the
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: last three years of my life, I've been manifesting to
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: you one of these indie shows to be a wrestler.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: So I've been looking up how the YouTube videos, the
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: par wrestling went on with Just Incredibles and the hard documentaries,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm watching all this stuff just to get a
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: piece of taste of it. And so what I did was,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: and I'm gonna have to name drop a couple of
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: people here, but I'm living with a different girl, and
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to han't want to be a wrestler. And
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: she's like, that's awesome, that's cool, but she's not really
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: like she doesn't know much about it, which I get.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: She's like, one of my friends does this does wrestling.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, that's what's crazy. I want to
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: meet your friend. Her friend was literally the ex division
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: champion Chris Bay that she grew up in Virginia and
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: that's yeah, that's just my friend that I grew up
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: with in their homies. So she got me in contact
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: with him. So I messaged him, Hey, I'm so and
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: so I'm with your friend and just wanted to be
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: a wrestler. So he pugged me into his school and
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: you know, he me with all the kind words of
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: like you got this as your dream and picked your
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: right school. And as we're doing that, I was watching
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: Championship Wrestling from Hollywood, Championship Wrestling from Arizona, and Minny
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: Lemmons was a guy I would see on TV and
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: I saw in a person in Albuquerque. So I messaged
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: him and because he just opened up his wrestling school too,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: like that same time period, that same year, and it's
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: just only in Salt Lake and that's you know, sixteen
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: hours away.
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: And so I had a call with him, I had
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: a call with with you know, the FSW guys in Vegas.
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: And then the reason why I chose to the question
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: you asked the Arizona Pro Russian Training Center was the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: amount of structure. It felt like a tough enough NXT
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: whatever tryout just to get into their school, right. So
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: basically I chose there's an up rushing training center for
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: him ful of reasons, and I'm so glad. I love Arizona.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I just moved back to the Albuquerque again. That's my
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: first time moving up you're black, to New Mexico. But
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Arizona was a dream come true. It was a single
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: guy that just turned twenty one. I turned twenty one
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: five days there. I moved to Arizona on my own.
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: Then those single person I moved eight hours away from
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: home specifically for a shot a tryout to get on
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: this wrestling school. And then there was not an easy
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: tryout whatsoever, but the structure getting into I did a
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: zoom meeting black when zoom was easy. I did a
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: zoom meeting with the owners of the wrestling school, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: they wanted to six yards a good fit, you know,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: former college athlete, everything like that. They wanted to read
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: my personality and then all good fit with them because
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: they're not accepting anybody and they're only doing three to
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: four tryouts a year, you know, spring, summer, winter, fall.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: So if I don't get this summer one by in
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: March to lock me in in June, I have to
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: wait until the fall. If I get accepted in the summer,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: So I'm very urgent, and I'm making the big choices.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: And basically, I had to choose between my senior year
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: of college on a national championship winning rugby team or
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: a wrestling tryout eight hours away in a place I
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: don't know anyone or anything. So I dropped everything. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: put my life on hold. I left the house, the dog,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: the girl. I think she was done first, but I
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: left it all. I left my degree, I left everything
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: for just a tryout to be a wrestler, a chance. Yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: And looking back, I remember that try out so vividly.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: But it was the best decision I ever made in
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: my life because it led me to so many avenues
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: and so many people, and it's led me to where
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I'm at today. And and that's my manifest of that
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: That's awesome, No, that's huge. Yeah, I mean that's exactly
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: what you have to do, is you have to bet
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: on yourself. And like you said, you know, you could
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: have finished out, been a teacher, probably maybe won another
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: national championship with the rugs team, but who knows, like
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: but who knows would have happened that way as opposed
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: to the way you did go And so who would
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: have known that would happened that way.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: And now look at you, yeah, and looking back, like
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: it seems like last year, two years ago, because I
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: still feel like the pandemic. I was twenty one during
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: the pandemic, so I'm forever twenty one mentally.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I always think I'm like, it wasn't that long.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Oh No, that was like six years ago.
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I just turned twenty eight a couple of
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: days ago, and I legitimately didn't believe it.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: I was like, I was just twenty four, you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I thought I was twenty five. But it's crazy to
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: be back on and I've had some time.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: To reflect about a lot of things now, and I
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: realize twenty one year old me, I pretty much achieved
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: almost every single thing I said I wasn't achieved. It
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: only took me five six, seven years. But I think
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: that's not a bad amount of time if I think
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: all things considered.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you could have, like like you said,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: you could go on the other way and none of
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: these things could have happened. So and you could have
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: just kept doing the whole what if game.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: And here's the thing. So June twenty nineteen, I bet
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: on myself. I moved by myself. And then and then
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: I got through on the tryout and the most beautiful,
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: brutal tryout. You know, the first thing is a twenty
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: minute run around the ring and one hundred and thirteen
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: degrees in Arizona in a garage and there's twenty of you,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and there's just one rule, don't stop. Yeah, and if
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: you stop, thank you. Try again again next time, try
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: again in three months, right, and within those three months
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: get in the straight so you could actually last. Yeah,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: you know. And so they try out where there's we
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: were like, hey, give the best shape of your life
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: because it's gonna suck. I thought I was in shape
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: from rugby. You know. It was one hundred and seventy
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: pounds and I could run five miles and feel good.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: The Arizona heat is a hole in the ball game.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: I've been out there, but I is the scorching desert.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: It's you're on the sun. And then wrestling shape is
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: a whole other It's hard to put to words, you know,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: how much different wrestling shape is than being physical shape.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: But yeah, then and then from there twenty nineteen, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: got all this momentum, get them on my fundamentals, down,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: and it's the structure of program. It's every six weeks
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: and you have an evaluation to get to the next level,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: next level. So it took me, you know, a full
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: six months before I even learned. It took me six
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: weeks before it is even though they're able touch the ring,
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: twelve weeks before I was even able to to be
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: able to learn how to bump right. So this is
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: four or five months and I don't even know how
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: to wrestle, but my fundamentals are drilled into me. We're
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: doing five hundred squats a day, minimum, two thousand squats
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: a week, and it's just in the heat, brutal training.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: But that's what I wanted, hard training. I wanted real
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: wrestling training. At the point in time, we were like
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: one of two in or wrestling schools in Arizona. I
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: think that's still probably the case now. So we took
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: a lot of pride in our school. And then March
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, we're talking about doing a show Code Read
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: at the Club Bread. It's going to be a smaller
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: show for our students, and we're all fighting for these spots,
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: and then world shuts down. Everything I was working for
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: the gyms are closed, the wrestling schools closed, and I
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: worked in the gym. So I ended up moving back
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: home during the pandemic for eight months, and my bills
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: didn't stop when the work stopped. How to find a way?
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: I worked blue collar, you know, working stuff to just
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: make money to pay for my rent and a place
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: somebody even living at. After that, I got out of shape.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I was mentally just drained because I'd been on myself
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: and then it fell through and I had some super
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: cool opportunities that I had potential to do and I
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: was still close to make my debut, and then I'm
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: just heartbroken. Also, I bought a ring during twenty twenty
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: to play with it. I bought a whole ring in
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty, and I got it. I wasn't even able
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: to wrestle all the way yet, but I was able
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: to keep up with my fundamentals a little bit, so
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: with the school being as hard as it is. As
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: soon as I moved back to Arizona and I packed
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: my truck and went back that way. How did that
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: tryout that? You know, it's horrible? Did it all over again?
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Just TV welcomed back and I do it again again?
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Gladly it's Burby's squats there it all gets everything, bear crawls,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: tire flips. And after that, this was October twenty twenty
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: and then April twenty twenty one, my brother in Lamach
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: went the shirt. He tragically passed away in a co accident.
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: He was my roommate. Started to hear that mentally was
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: a big challenge, and my wife was in the accident,
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: and so we were at that point. It wasn't my
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: wife yet, but I had that determining fact that like,
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do this for him, for her, There's no
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: turning back. You know. The guy I lived with in
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Arizona passed away, and and that was not easy. You know.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: I watched my brother in law, and then in September
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: of twenty twenty one, I made my debut and I
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: wore this shirt down to the ring and I threw
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: it to her in the crowd. And then I got
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: to make my debut. And then October twenty twenty one,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I got thrown out of a vehicle, broke my skull. There,
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: two stitches across my face, swallowed my front, two teeth,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: wrist popped out of place, knees, elbows, everything banged up.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: So I was with a broken skull thirty two stitches.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: So I was out for another eight months after that.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: So my first three years of wrestling was miserable. It
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: was just tryout, hard, hot practices, squatted so I couldn't walk,
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: lots of death, lots of trauma, and and getting so
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: close to a goal and not reaching it, and then
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: getting to the goal and then getting brought back down
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: to reality. So I based the fair amount of turbulence
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: in this journey. But I think now we're finally smoothly
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: flying a little bit hopefully.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, obviously it shows that you genuinely still
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: want this. Because most people held half of that stuff.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: They would be like, all right, never mind that we tried,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: you know, the universe telling me something else. So I'm
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: a good keep going and you're.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Like, nah, I felt those feelings. I felt all those feelings,
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: you know. And a lot of it is my wife,
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: you know, she has seen me for the breakdowns, and
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: we invest. It's not just me, like she designs my gear.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: She knows music, she plays instruments and how's great my
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: interest music? We're playing with it. She picked my song
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I used, you know, she all my logos run through
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: her booking wise, you know, like she's very picky, but
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: I won't do a booking that she wouldn't approve of,
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: and then she's not even in the wrestling world. But
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: she's not gonna let me waste my time, my money,
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: and my effort. And she's never been wrong about her
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: instinct either. So I only do hike. I'm bigger indies.
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: I would say I observe my bump card for that
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: of course, and I'm very picky about where I wrestle,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: on what I do, and where I go. And honestly,
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: it's a group effort I have. My family does not
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: miss a show in New Mexico. They're allowed, and I'm
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: selling myself. I saw anyone from seventy to three hundred
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: tickets per show from my immediate friends and family and
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: that group that's just there to see me. So I
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: have a phenomenal old fan base that I got to
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: give them the credit to. I've been more than fortunate.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: Full story. I'm gonna keep rampling on. But that Vegas,
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: New Mexico show I was talking about when I was
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: a kid that don't remember. October of twenty twenty four,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: I was able to be wrestling back to Las Vegas,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: sold up this really cool venue. While the city of
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Las Vegas wanted me back so much they called the
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: commission and said, hey, we need wrestling back. We need
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: wrestling back to The commission contacted me and said, hey,
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: we're gonna do it bigger and better with more money
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: and a bigger promotion. NWA New Mexican about the territory
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: to my small hometown, and I sold that place out.
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: And I'm not trying to like brag or I mean,
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: who really cares, but it's the truth. There was a
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: total of seven tickets that were not sold by me,
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: and I sold out the venue of four hundred and
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: fifty tickets that I sold on my own pocket. So
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I sold four unre and fifty tickets myself and the
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: other thirty six, thirty two wrestlers, thirty one wrestlers sold
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: your goodbye and seven. So that's a testament not to me,
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: but to my people. You know, they showed up, they
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: spread the word. My best friend firm, we went around town.
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: I've been friends of those guy since we were three
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: four years old, and you know, wrestling was was our
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: jam and now we're firing up the entire city together.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: And you know, my best friend Kevin, he we did
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: everything I needed that day of And you know my
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: wife she was that night and that morning making signs
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: live for wrestling. And it takes an army really, So yeah,
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: I have all the support that it makes it hard
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: to quit, you know.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I love that you are obviously like this
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: is clearly what you want to do, and you're obviously
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: not just doing it for you, but you're doing it
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: for your city or you know, and everybody around you.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Who are some veterans that you have kind of like
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: kind of like bended their ear, gotten some of their time,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: and like they've kind of put some really knowledge into
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you about this kind of stuff. Because obviously, like there
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: are so many guys and girls out there that you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: those come in work a show, say hi, thanks, get
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: their money, and then leave. You know, not there's anything
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: wrong with that, because everybody's got thrown life and everybody
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: with what they want to do. But you're clearly in
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: it for the long haul. This isn't just a short
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: thing for you. So who are some veterans that kind.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Of put that in your Yes, veterans, So I want
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: to make this point first and foremost. Yes, when I
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: did break my skull, the doctor did looked at me
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: into my face and said, you probably lost half of
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: your life. You know, I was twenty one years old
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: and or twenty three years old, and doctor told me
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: I was probably gonna die when I was five time
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: I was forty six. So I have two options, you know,
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: curl up in a ball and complain, or I could
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: give it every single thing I got and not quit
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: and say, hey, if I'm going to live a short life,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna live the best life there is. And with that,
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I on the best tape of my life. So now
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: I see doctors and they're like, dude, You're like, no
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: concussion and everything. So who knows, maybe this was the
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: ultimate wake up called. This took me swallowing a couple
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: of teeths in then I got my act together for
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: the most part. That being said veterans. So I am
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: so very fortunate for the wrestling school I went to.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: So Dom Vitally is the wrestling school owner in Phoenix
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: Championship Wrestling. There's an oppression training center and they do.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: The most awesome thing is after we do a show
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: that next Monday, we are watching film. So it is
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: brutally honest and you're gonna hate that match and they're
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: gonna dissect it, but it is the most needed thing. Also,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: that wrestling school, Gable Gallow's who taught me out to wrestle.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: He works for a w He is Mickey Keegan, so
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: he used to be Matt Axl Mickey Axel on ww
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: NXT but developmental days, he's one of the advanced training
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: coaches at that school. He is a genius, you know.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: So the amount of feedb I got from them alone
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: was the most valuable to me. Also, there's about five
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: or six guys that were all my same age, all
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: born ninety eight. Devin Reno, Blair, Brody Freddy Kordova, Taylor York, myself,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: We're all that same age in that same group at
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: there as on a picture training center. We grew up
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: from we're twenty one to twenty eight now, and we
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: pushed each other at the highest level. It's competitive and
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: we're all that same kind of come up together. And
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: then you know, I've been fortunate enough to be on
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: the road with you know, a Rocky Mountain pro in Denver.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: When I get to have dinner with Marty the Moth,
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: and I get in his ear and talk to him
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: all night long to have his phone number. Now he
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: texted me my birthday. You know, sixteen year old me's
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: breaking out right. You know I shared hotels with this
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: guy you mentioned been through, So I mean, I'm fortunate
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: enough to have his phone number and his email and
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: he's always a phone call away. And I mean a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: name is the name, and a source is a source.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: But like personally, he loves me and I every one
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: has his opinion about it, but like for me, I
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: he would book me. He made me his champion of
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Rocky Mount Pro, so you know, I'll love for him.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: He is crazy that he lives in Denver now like
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: or a boulder summer. I know he lives in Colorado.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know for sure what or when. I haven't
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: been to that company about six months, only because my
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: schedule has been so busy that I can't do a
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: three day with him, because it's like Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Taybe that I it's a good thing, but it's it's
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go back. I'm gonna go back, promise but
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. I mean, Hammerstone is like everyone at
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: our wrestling school that's trained by Dom. You know, he
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: has Jimmy House, t J. Beller from a n XD
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: or next d Evolve, had a big handed training. Uh
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: the a couple of the girls on the main roster
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: WW that came to him for help. I don't want
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: to mess up her her WWE name, but I'll fu
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Academy right, that's to be her Maxine du Prix exactly
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: to the Preez. Now I'm not heard w W anyway
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: had in training her. So yes, the biggest thing, but
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: his biggest star is Hammerstone, and all of us at
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: our wrestling school a little twelve inch or eight by
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: ten ten inch little pictures in Hammerton was a twelve
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: foot you know picture at our school. But also like
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: any time I wanted a finished question, a supplement question,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: the wrestling question, he would go out of his way
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: to give me not an answer, but the Hammerstone answer
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: where he lives this life and you know, he's such
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: a big inspiration. And then unfortunate enough, I mentioned Chris
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: Bay earlier and anytime I've had a big moment, I
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: texted him and the story he's had and like greatest
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: story ever told. I want a complaint about my story,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: Well I can't even you know, he's something that you
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: relate to. You know, there was the days where a
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: big accomplishment for me was even stepping on the grass
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: in the front yard because it couldn't move, you know,
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: when coal was broken. Well, this guy, I want to
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: talk about adversity, you know. And he's been someone that
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I've been able to text whenever he always responds, and
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: I'm so grateful for that. And that's just before I
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: was even a wrestler. Sos the what kind of person
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: he is.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard nothing of the good things about him,
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: and I've had his his girlfriend on the show, and
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: every time I see her, I get so excited too,
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: but because she's doing fantastic things as well.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: But she's genuinely the nicest person I've ever been in
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: my life. I do not trust. I mean, this is
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: the best way. There's something she's gonna snap one of
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: these days. It's something because he's the most like you know.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: She's also from Arizona, where I was training, and no
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: buddy has averb be ever. I've never heard a single
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: negative thing about her and every time I see her.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: She is you know, energy, sunshine, you know, light, nothing
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: but good about say about one of those.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: People, No, same, Yeah, those two are the greatest people
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: on the planet right now.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I love watching Chrispay's all his videos. He puts now
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: on Instagram about like, you know, he picked up ninety
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: fives the other day for shoulder presses. I was like,
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: I don't even do ninety fives. That's sucking nuts.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I mean the greatest story ever told is
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: I like could say, man.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that first match back is gonna be huge for everybody.
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be I pray it's with me some way.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm in his already, you know, yeah, you
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: knows I'm in there. And he made me a promise
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty one that will wrestle one day.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: So I'll still hold him to that. After everything that's
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: happened between and two of us.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Well especially you two, like you guys, you both have
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: the greatest story. And if anybody like that video package,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: if they were to put it together.
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah, that's what dreams are made of, man, you know.
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of little similarities and you know,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: the greatest I ever told all I can say, Man,
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: there you go.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: Well, So show days are long days. What are some
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: standards you normally have in your bag?
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: Oho? In the bag everything. I'm a big protein guy,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: just finished by protein here, so I'll always have a
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: couple extra meat sticks protein bars, especially when I'm on
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: the road, so I have two different go tos. So locally,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: what I do is I'll take my backpack, which is
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: primarily snacks and the change of clothes. When I say snacks,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: it's a couple of meal preps and a couple gatorades
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: and whatever liquid IV and stuff, and then my suitcase
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: with my wrestling gear X y Z. When I'm on
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: the road flying, what I do is I'll put my
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: knee pads in one boot, I'll put my single and
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: the other I'll put my tape in that boot, and
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: then I'll tie my boots up real tight and I'll
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: put them in my backpack, and then my suitcases all
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: my merchandise. So that's kind of my my go to.
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: So I always have the tape I guess would be
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: one that I always have. I'm always the guy that's
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: giving out tape.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: There's never enough tape backstage, not at all.
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: Pre workout. I would say that's the biggest one I have.
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: I need it for all my matches. Every one of
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: my matches has a pre workout spot at this point,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: so I always have the pre workout for everybody. And
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: that's the thing is I love sharing, Don't get me wrong,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: but I mean I just bought a brand new one
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: and then it turns into ambrol kicking the scoop, kicking
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: the scoop, and I give out seven scoops before a
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: show and Eryko Tuesday morning and I'm I'm Tommy half
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: scoop in the morning.
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: You need that sponsorship deal or just do you get
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: one of your own?
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: Basically that is literally my plan. So I do work
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: for booked Up. They are my sponsor.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: To drink I think I have not tried yet.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: Everyone loves energy drinks. But honestly, a big the supplements are.
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: I'm not just saying this because I worked the number
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: five years, but the hands I'm the best flavors for supplements.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I got you promo code twenty off and a free
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: sampler if you want to just try them out, I
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: could send you a link of the pre sampler. That
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: being said, uh, that is the goal, and that is
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: something I've been waiting to announce hopefully this month, coming
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: up last day of June today, right, and and I
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: want to I've been working on creating my very own
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: two scoops, So Scoop Lab Performance is what I'm going for,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: and that's going to be my own supplement brand coming soon.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I love that.
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: So at least when I waste that pre workout on
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: the ring, at least I paid myself for it.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you could also sell it at the merch stand
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: as well.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: No really, and yeah there the potential is insane, but yes,
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: I really can samples out merch table every thing.
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's one of the weird So that's one
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: of the markets that you don't have to get certified
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: to do any of that stuff, like to get your
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: own supplements, to actually do your own pre workout. Like
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: there's no like FDA approval or whatever it is, which
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: is good and bad. But you know, obviously people do
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: research as to what you're what you're getting into.
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you I know someone about something game if
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: you want to get an a certified for sport, so
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: you can that's like the most high label you can
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: get for that for supplements you could already buy people
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: drop ship or white chip companies already have it for
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: you too. You just paint for your logo and stuff.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: So you are right. It is a lot of work
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: of tedious stuff, but the it's not capped. There's non
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: cap potential there.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Sure, and I mean especially, we're always in some kind
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: of uh not I won't say fad, but we're also
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: in some kind of like people wanting to be in
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: better shape or be that's never going to end. That's
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: almost always the number one resolution someone makes on January
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: first is like, oh, I want to be in better shape,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: or oh I want to eat better or whatever it
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: is it's like. But usually by March they're like, eh,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: they may have fallen off or whatever. So that category
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: will always be booming and popping.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: And let me tell you this. So I've worked at
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: the gymer industry for about ten years and I've done
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: everything from management to detail to training side to group fitness,
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: and I love it and I've done all that. So
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: I've been around so many professional athletes, bodybuilders, NFL players,
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: pro wrestlers at the highest level on television, and I
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: pick their brains and I ask all my questions. And
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: I'm a certified personal trainer, and I have certifications, and
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: I like to think I know a lot about a
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: lot of the things. But I will say this is
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: a fact, and I could pull it up on my Google.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: But I'm on my fun right now. But in the
• 51:59
  Speaker 3: year twenty twenties, so twenty twenty, again, there's what seven
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: points something billion people in the world. The most googled
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I'm googled. The most googled question was how to get
• 52:14
  Speaker 3: abs and how to go your butt? Yeah, and it
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: was like thirty billion. So if there's seven billion people
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: on Earth, but that's getting searched up thirty billion times,
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: that tells you that there is a demand, you know,
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: for that one year of what it was. And I
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: could look up the specific numbers, but I guarantee you
• 52:31
  Speaker 3: that this is what people are looking up the most,
• 52:33
  Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, And I get every day, I get
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: people asking me for supplements or help, you know. And
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: I don't even charge most of my clients anything really
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: because I'm not going on my way to I don't
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: promote myself as a startup by personal trader, I did.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: I just left my job by commercial januare I was.
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just a fitness guy and a health guy, and
• 52:59
  Speaker 3: that's my gimmick is if someone comes to me with
• 53:02
  Speaker 3: a genuine question, I'll give them a genuine answer. And
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: here's the resolution. People have to be able to accept, like, hey,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: this is why it's not working. You know, if you suck,
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: you suck. And but that's okay because if you suck,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: you can get better at it, you know. And that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: kind of where I lay with that kind of stuff.
• 53:20
  Speaker 3: You know, I have a lot of people ask them
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: for advice on jim or wrestling, and they're trying to
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: be as brutally honest as they can because that's what
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: helps me. Yeah, you know, I's something I think it's cool,
• 53:30
  Speaker 3: and I still get my coaches telling me how awful
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: it is. But you know, that's tough love. But also
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I get better every time.
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not gonna get better? Why people just blowing
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: smoke up your ass?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: You get thoughts of those yeah, yeah, too many of
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: those people. Yeah.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: Now, I mean I always think, you know, no matter what,
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: just get physical, walk around, do something. If you don't
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: like the gym, that's fine, find something like whether you're
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: like you said, group fitness or even like this hydrox
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: training is getting fucking nuts right now. Like I did
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: one a month and a half ago, and I was
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: like this sucks, man, I hate running, but like everything
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: else was like this is crazy, Like this is like
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: CrossFit on steroids for me, you know. But I'm someone
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: who would like just like to try all the different ones.
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: And you know, I think Zooma is great as well.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: People were like, I've done Zooma is very hard, especially
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: if yeah, if you don't have a good cardio, Zooma
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: is very hard. But yeah, polates can be very hard
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: as well. But you know, it's just try all these
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: different things, find out what you do and don't like,
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: and then you know, just go about But as long
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: as you're being physical moving your body, it's not just
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: about you know, looking yoked or whatever. It's about getting
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: your body moving your you know, your joints, moving your flexibility,
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: and obviously it'll like really help your brain function as well,
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: which I think a lot of people don't even think about.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: Even your your basic emplements. Your creatine is the most
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: studied compound there is a day, and there's cognitive there's
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: proof of cognitive function improving with keotine, and I would
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: say minimum ten thousand steps a day. Ye minimum. And
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: then as long as you're a calorie deficit, and all
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: that means is eating less and you're consuming, you're gonna
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: lose weight, You're gonna lose fat. So if that means
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: not dooms going unterpie for thirty minutes, for going for
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: a thirty minute walk or instead of this, you know,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: before I start watching my Netflix, I'm gonna walk the
• 55:31
  Speaker 3: dog for half an hour, you know whatever it takes.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: It takes forty five minutes to an hour to get
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: those steps in. You know, if you could do that
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: before you even go to work, how awesome is that?
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: That's a big part of it. You're one hundred percent right.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: And I just love helping people. I mean, I think
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: that's my calling, that's my passion. I spoke about my
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: brother and I earlier and his whole thing with service.
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: There's a food truck that my sister not made it
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: for him and it's serve like Joe. Serve like Joe. Yeah,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: because he was genuinely the most giving person and he
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: even passed away while doing service. So there's a lot
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: of stuff if I I would like to do to
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: be even half the man he was.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: You know, No, that's huge. Yeah, helping other people help
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: you out even more so.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: And I learned this too the hard way, unfortunately, especially
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: in the rest of the world, is the people that
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: are on top are gonna be pulling you up. They're
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: never gonna be punching down. Yeah. Hate only comes from
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: people that are from under you, that are trying to
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: put you down to their level. So if I hate
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: somebody i'm that means I'm not good at anything. Yeah.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: So there's genuinely not any person they there's a lot
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: of people I know and specific in this today. If
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: we have a commission and stuff and they get all
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: these reports on me, Tommy did this, He did that. Basically,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: I'm glad that I'm on your mind because I promise
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: I don't think about you, just do me. And I
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: learned that the hard way. Unfortunately, people I trusted that
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: I looked up to and they didn't have my best interest,
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: and that's just the name of the game really. But
• 57:15
  Speaker 3: I what really came to me though, is the people
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: that did care about me came through and now I
• 57:22
  Speaker 3: know who have my back, My boy Turbo Tony, you
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: know all these places and you kind of see who's
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: about it who's not. Yeah.
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: I think I saw something the other day. It was like,
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: you know, when you're on your way up, you're not
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: getting any phone calls, but once you make it there,
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you're getting all the phone calls.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: That is, unfortunately the truth. Yeah, and I've had glimpses
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: and tastes of it here and there. But everything I
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: do is for the sole goal of wrestling on television.
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: To me, that means you made it. I know, people
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: like I just want to get signed, blah blah blah.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Some people will sell out to do certain jobs, and
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: that's not important to me. I mean, my goal, if
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: I'm being honest, has always been and I may be
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: a little biased by AW because they started when I
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: started twenty nineteen, they were the hot new thing twenty nineteen,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: I decided to start training, So my first couple of
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: months of training was the most exciting part of my life.
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: And that was the first couple of months of that company. Yeah,
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: and so I grew up as they grew up, So
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: that has always been my I have a special connection
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: with that company. My personal favorite has always been TNA
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: in the ex division, Samoa Joe, it's my Samojo is
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: my goat. He's my favorite and you know, my it's
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: crazy how Tomic dream is gone, but he's my other
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: favorite rest of all time. Right, So when they see
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: what two scoops, I would say as two of those
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: characters of his character. But that was like, it was
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: my connection to TNA. You know, I'm fortunate enough to
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: say I watch matches back with him and he's been
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: nothing but helpful to me. Tomorrow Tommy dreamers and to
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: that place was a special quest place in my heart.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to know the fact that w
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: W is the best in the world and would that
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: be the ultimate goal and dream, Yes, but it's not
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: my end all be all. Sure if we spoke about
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: n w A earlier, I have tons of to the
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: n w A, and yeah, I would love to work
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: for them. You know, so many cool spots. But that's
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: why I'm playing the long game. Really, yeah, you're not.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: You're not after that short that short spit.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: Not at all. And I mean you do enough damage
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: to your body wrestling that you won't. You have to
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: be selective and picking about when and how and where.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: You gotta don't want to pick turn it up, but
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: also time and the place, you know, And it's just
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: this is just an example. I'm a big bat of
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: hardcore wrestling, not so much death by wrestling. Yeah, I
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: like street brawling, and I like chairs and tables and
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: pile drivers and X y Z and I've had my
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 3: fair share of bloody matches. But uh, I'm not going
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: to the thumb tax on the indies unless I'm getting
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 3: paid minimum, you know, something that's gonna unless they offer
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: me insurance and you know, I have to really discuss
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: that rate in the thousands, you know, to me to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: do that. But if I'm in aw TV and I'm
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: get told, yeah, that's what I'm saving it for.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you gotta make it makes sense.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: You gotta make it make sense, and also time and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: a place, you know. So I'm not opposed to that,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: and I'm actually I want to, yeah, because I will
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: and I would probably enjoy it, but not anytime on
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: the indies, you know.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, why are you doing that in front of
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: fifteen people?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 5: Why am I doing that in front of five hundred people?
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 5: You know you're fair enough, ye, yeah, but yeah, fifteen.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Like I know, would I do it in front of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: two thousand. Maybe if the money is.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Right, you know, yeah, you gotta make it, make it
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: like you said, you gotta make it make sense.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's just my two cents on that kind
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: of stuff. Like I play some stuff in reserve, but
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: also you gotta know when when to send it in
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: mm hmm. Yeah.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: Like Keny Rogers said, you got to know when to
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: hold them, you know when to fold them, man.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: That and that goes for a lot more than just
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 3: moves and spots. There's a lot of different things in
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: the restling world. You gotta I'm very patient with my bookings.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: At least some always come to me. I've only reached
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: out to one company in my life, GCW WOW, and
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I reach out to them a little bit too late
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: because the Athletic Commission. But other than that, I mean,
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: I've been very fortunate enough to have just wrestling companies
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: come to me at the right time, at the right place.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: That's awesome. That's awesome that you're at that point in
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: your career as well, that you are doing that as
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: supposed to. I mean, there are a lot of men
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: and women out there. They are still struggling sometimes just
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: to make one booking a weekend and you're getting you know,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: people that are hitting you up on a regular basis.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 3: So that's awesome. And don't get me wrong, yesterday I
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: went down and I got my notebook out and I
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: wrote down three or four places I really want to
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: work for one of my best friends, but lioking buddy
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: Mitch is actually moving to the Bay Area. So West
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Coast Pro has always been a gold destination in San Francisco.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 3: So you know, I started scouting. I started asking around,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: asking for the right people because I'm not going to
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: meet the generic send to a brother DM or a
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: cold email. I'd rather make that connection, meet the right
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: people and show my worth and my offer and speak realistically.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: And I think that personal connection is a lot more.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: And I've had my fair start up a little bit
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: of promoting for my own shows, and like to get
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: a promis a professional person you could trust, and any
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 3: asker to the card is hard. So I want to
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: build that trust and respect from the jump, and then
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I could, you know, get comfortable to send that DM.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: But I'm not going to do it. But I don't
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 3: know you you know.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: Now I was talking to a promoter about this too,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: and they were saying that it's so much easier for
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: me to say yes to somebody in person because I'm
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: actually seeing them and, like you said, seeing how they
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: work and how they actually you know, are with other
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: people backstage, as opposed to just sending a DM where
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: you could start replying to them, but then you get
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: torn away and do something else or and you can
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: really forget about it. And so if they're in front
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: of you, it's so much easier to make that decision.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: Also, people don't realize nowadays in twenty twenty sixth of
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: the Internet, it's not real life. Yeah. Yeah, people get
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: real brave behind the keyboard, and then people get this
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: false personalities behind a keyboard, and I'd rather make that connection,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 3: like hey, brother, let's set up a phone call. Let's
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: not set up a zoom, Let's do a FaceTime. Yeah,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 3: but that's uh, I'm just I'm just taking a shot
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 3: out zoom again.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, as you should, as you.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: But for really, I been fortunate enough. I just just
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: an example. Pcw Ultra one of the biggest indies in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: the West Coast in Wilmington, California. I went seven times.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: I drove from Phoenix at three in the morning together
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: at ten in the morning, set up their stage at
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: their ring, their locker room, their stairs, their chairs, set
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 3: up everything, worked the show. I ate thirty get off
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 3: around midnight when the show ended, and then we tore
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: down the ring till three four am, and then we
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: drove back to Arizona another seven hours and then I,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: you know, how to go to work the next morning.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: I did that seven times. Yeah, before I even got
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: an opportunity for a five minute pre show Matchamn. But
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: what I did was I met the promoter. I built
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: my trust up. I knew this was a card that
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: was way too good for me, but I showed up
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: my value. I was reliable, was always on time, my
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: mouth was shut. I worked hard. My phone is in
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 3: my pocket. You know I wasn't you know. I was
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: looking for a job. So I treated that like a
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: job interview. And finally when my time was called, Hey Tommy,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: do you have your gear? Yes, sir, rest is history.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: That night two Scoops was born. You know, that's the
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: nine two Scoops became a thing. I went my patients.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: It grew into something more.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it's all about, is paying those dudes.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: And you know it's going to work out.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: In the end, absolutely paying your dues. And we live
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: in a world where people have this and like a
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: fast sense of what is the instagratification where they want
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: something then and now, And especially in the Finnish industry,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: I see this all the time. I need to see,
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: you know, but especially like the younger wrestlers here in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: New Mexico, the ones that I trained with and stuff
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: that they see me on a show and they think
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: that they're entitled to it, and I'm like, they're not
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: booking me for what I did last week, They're booking
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: me for what I've done last seven years. You know,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: you got if you want to make it. My door
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: is open, my car is open. But you gotta do
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: what I did. I can't get you in or I
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: get all these emails. Hey give me the contact information
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: for this people, No, you got to figure out the
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: same way I did. I'm not gatekeeping, but nobody gave
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: it to me. Yeah. I had to earn my my
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: ins and outs. You know, I made these drives solo,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: my wife and I only you know, my buddy triple
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: and I only and I built that myself. And people
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: got to realize, like it wasn't given to me, so
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: it's not gonna be given to you. Yep.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: No, I mean that's that's the way you gotta do it.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Get that a lot out here, of course, I imagine
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: it's everywhere.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, it's everywhere everywhere for sure. Well.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I have a segment of the show I call it
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: the five Count, which has five random questions.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Three.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: Number one, who's your first concert?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: First concert was Creator back in twenty sixteen, damn rash Metal? Yeah? Okay.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: Number two, If you owned a liquor company, brewery, winery,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 2: coffee shop, or entry, which one would you own and
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: what would the name be?
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: Ooh? I would say probably I want to say coffee
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: shop because it's like the two scoops of expresso something
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: in there. But I'd probably explained dispensary because my wife
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: and I have had deep talks about what we do
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: and how we do it. I don't only want to
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: still my ideas, but UFO, the dispensaries our gold.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Maybe, yeah, those are gold. I see them quite a
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: bit everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I Number three, what for dinner
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: guests that are alive? Would you have?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Oh? Ever, so Davis staying by Mega death will be
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: there because I feel like I could ask me on
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: so many questions. Stone Cold Steve Aoston, because the guy
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: that's been at the Pinnacle at the hottest time ever yep,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: And I just know I would have a good time
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: jiggy beer with him, and that would be an interesting dynamic,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: you know, for all the same table. So I have
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: two more guests. Yeah, wow, they want to make this
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: good because I got my two favorites out the way,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: and for the sake of Andrew, for sale are for
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Selle Uh the author. He's the seventy five hard guy.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, that guy get.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, He's someone that rolls me up enough to I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: feel like and I hate politics, but it makes me
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: want to vote for him. He's not even a politics
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 3: you know. He rows me up. I would say those
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: three for sure, and I've met a lot of people
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  Speaker 3: that I really liked. It's got my favorite author, my
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  Speaker 3: favorite musician, my favorite one of my favorite wrestlers. The
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 3: fourth aspect has to be exercise. Maybe an athlete Chatou Chosinko,
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  Speaker 3: my favorite player of all time. That would be interesting. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that dynamic alone would be fun to just watch.
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  Speaker 3: That is a crazy idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because don't go. Yes, Steve Austin him they both
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  Speaker 2: play football, so that would take it easily talk about that.
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  Speaker 2: Steve Auston is also a big metal guy, so I
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  Speaker 2: think you know him and Dave Miss Dane would have
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: a lot to talk about. Yeah, I think this, Yeah, this,
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  Speaker 2: this dynamic works.
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  Speaker 3: That's a fun show right there. There we go.
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  Speaker 2: Number four. Who are what inspires you?
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  Speaker 3: Who? And what? Well? I have all the different reasons
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: not to quit. Family is a big one, and of
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: course that's probably the most generic one. My brother in
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: law pushes me a lot. From the other side. I
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: have a guy grew up with named Paul Anthony who
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 3: he is one of my main reasons why I'm a wrestler.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: He I don't know the exact diagnosis, but you know,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: I grew up with him being eleven years old and
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: he was still meant to liven years old and he
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: was about eighteen. But he is the biggest wrestling fan.
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  Speaker 3: And when I see him at my shows, you know,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: he's family to me. You know, his parents and my
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: parents grew up together, so I grew up with him
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: and his face makes every bump and bruise and squat
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  Speaker 3: worth it. And I got to talk to him after
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: the show, and I've been able to big him in
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: the ring, and he's a big guy that forces me
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: to go forward. But also, I mean, I've dedicated so
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 3: much time, money and effort, you know, money for sure,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: and into this wrestling stuff and I've missed. I've sacrificed
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: so many holidays and graduation parties and birthdays when you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: live eight hours away from home, that I got to
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: make it all worth it. There's no turning back now,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: you know. It's all the way. I've sacrificed too much
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: for it, and I think that's a big fuel for me.
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  Speaker 3: Is like one I've never imagined any other way, but
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: I never imagined going this far, is to come this far.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: But also the amount of sacrifice I made. I've sacrificed
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: literally my half of my life technically for this. Yeah,
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: and then the other half of my life was me
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: obsessing for this. It I don't even imagine like not
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: giving everything I got. No, I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And number five, what would you tell your seventeen year
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: old self?
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Oh man, So that was a cool graphic. I was
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 3: able to wrestle on the Dark Match badw on Wednesday
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: in Round show and it was the twenty twenty six
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 3: I was twenty sixteen to twenty sixteen, I was seventeen
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Yeah, and it was me in the same arena,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: same venue, reren you Event Center, getting my hand raised. Wow. Right,
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: so seventeen year old me versus twenty eight year old me,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: the same building, and I was then it hit me.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 3: It's like the days later, but I mean that next
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 3: morning it kind of hit me really hard. But how
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: proud I was because I remember going to your event,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: your events center to watch around eighteen ninete years old.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: It's been so nervous. Maybe I can see a wrestler,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: I can say hi, I never can kick their hands.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: And I was able to say hi, shake those hands
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: and be on that side of the curtain, and that's amazing.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: It was a different feeling because I remember going to
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: these events and being so nervous and excited and it
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: couldn't sleep the night before. And I'm sure that there
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: was people that same way. So what I would tell
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: seventy checking out South is trust the process because it
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: hasn't been easy. But honestly, I wouldn't have any other way.
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  Speaker 2: There you go love that well, if people want to
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  Speaker 2: find out more about you, see you live, follow you online,
• 1:12:49
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  Speaker 3: Tommy two Scoops Underscore. That's my same exact coundle for
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  Speaker 3: my TikTok Tommy two Scoops Underscore. And then my wrestling
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: page was Tommy test Wrestling. I actually just yesterday put
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• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: That would be the best spot. I do have the
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• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: is on my link tree and on my Instagram viral there,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: and then on YouTube. I have over one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: in one spot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Yeah, makes sense to put everything
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 2: you have in one spot and make it easier for everybody.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a lot of effort try to put
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  Speaker 3: it together, but you know, it's one of those things
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• 1:14:20
  Speaker 2: Well, Tommy, I've loved this so much. Thank you for
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: sharing your story. It's it's it's inspirational for anybody, whether
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: they are in wrestling or outside of wrestling, or just
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: whatever they want to do. Never stop if that's what
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: you want to do, and like you said, if it
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: just consumes your thoughts, just you have to keep going
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: for it. So thank you so much, and I can't
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: wait to see where the future holds for you.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, awesome man. And then my next match
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: has actually been a Phoenix Championship Wrestling That is July eighteenth,
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: coming up soon. That's my next big one. I know
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna be hitting up to talking on pro
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: It's coming weekend, Oh no, the eleventh, the eleventh, then
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  Speaker 3: the Sport of July this weekend, which there is a
• 1:14:58
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  Speaker 3: for the fourth of July. So lots of cool opportunities
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: and thank you very tiring.
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  Speaker 2: Man, no problem, thanks so much time for being on
• 1:15:20
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• 1:15:23
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• 1:15:26
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• 1:15:30
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• 1:15:32
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