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Vanessa The Vivacious (Vanessa Younts) | The Christian Reeve Podcast #193 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of the Christian Reef
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podcast. Today's guest is a podcast of
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filmmaker producer, director editor all the way from Texas.
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Her name is Vanessa units or also go by the name.
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Vanessa, the vivacious, welcome to the show.
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How you doing? I am wonderful, how are you?
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I'm good. It's is 5 p.m. my time.
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What time is it? Your time?
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It is eleven ten central standard, cow Farm Texas time.
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So we We all have cows, we don't all arms but you know, those of
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you that are we have cows. It's that's what time it is for
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the cows, right on. So it's more than time for you.
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It's even in time for me, I've been very, very busy and, and
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here I am doing this. And, and it's cool because I was
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actually on your show before and we spoke a little bit
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off-camera, just about it, but I did want to ask that, what, how
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come you wanted to be on my show?
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Let's let's, let's start there. Well I've seen your show because
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found you through Tick-Tock of course everyone finds everyone
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through social now, right? And you're constantly looking
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for guess you're looking for talent you're looking for all
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sorts of creative resources. So when I first found you what
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drew me to you was you know just your complexity and the
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different things that you were going through as far as your
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content but then after our meeting and it was a fruitful
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meeting. I thought, I hope you thought
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too but after that episode I still watched Your show or heard
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your show, watch your content? Yeah, I'm not one of those like,
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oh, yes, come on my show or, or, you know, interview a book
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guest. Yes, I've read your book.
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It was fabulous. I got actually read the books.
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I actually learn about the gas, I care, but even afterward if
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it's if it's someone that I'm just highly interested in and I
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want to follow their path, I definitely will.
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So I've followed your path through your content through
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your show and I thought, you know what wild idea why don't I
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you know ask him if I can be interviewed by him because I've
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I've been interviewed in a few Publications now for.
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Are you happy and happy Productions and I thought, you
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know, I haven't been interviewed on a podcast, so let's turn the
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tables and see what happens. Oh, mad your first interview on
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a podcast. I think so.
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I there's this is probably this is the first one for sure in the
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last few years. I think I'll take that.
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Wanna thank you so much. Thank you so much.
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Yeah, no, I already dug what you were doing with with that?
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Let's let's talk about a little bit about that.
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So you you're representing this brand called Are you happy?
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And you've set up a podcast off the back of that.
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But it sort of started as this like online, like, there's quite
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a series where you just go up to people randomly and just be
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like, hey, and you'd ask a bunch of questions, but the key
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question you'd ask him as are you happy, and obviously, you
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get a mixed sort of bunch of responses, for that.
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But where did that kind of all start?
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Where did the idea for that stone?
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Excellent question. So the whole story in itself is
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magical but the origin is with a small team who traveled the
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world. Literally asking people, are you
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happy? And that initial inspiration
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came from the film Chronicle of a summer, which is a French
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film, focuses on Cinema verite, which for film people or
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production people. They understand Cinema Verde
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deals with truth, right? Truth on film and capturing real
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life on film as Too scripted, right?
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So taking that element and then putting it into a dock, you
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documentary format because that's how it started was
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traveling. The world asking people about
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happiness in the original film, Chronicle of a summer, the
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sociologist and some other folks they go out and interview people
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in the streets of France. What the microphone?
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Very very same setup and this is ages ago so it's not modern.
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It's an older foam and so they're out on the street with
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this microphone and they're asking people Are you happy?
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And they're asking them other questions but then they take it
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a step further and say what happens when we enter into their
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life. What happens when we become part
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of their daily life? And what comes of that?
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So seeing the interviews in that documentary film, they're just
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they're so beautiful and they're, they're heartwarming
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and you connect with them because you're almost walking
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inside of their house and becoming part of their life,
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right? And it's so interesting.
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So I think tripucka and the team.
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Are you happy at that particular time?
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This is, you know, prior pre-pandemic, they decided to
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travel the world asking people are you happy and searching for
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the happiest person in the world and so yeah.
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So what a feat right to do that? And you think about it, you're
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like, okay asking people are you happy?
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Very simple concept. Yes.
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But very complex and just like spiritual so many levels so much
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catharsis so much connection. It just blew up and of course,
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it would blow up, you know, on social media and pretty much
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Much anywhere you go. If you mention are you happy and
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the concept behind it whoever it is you're talking to you just
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blow their mind because they're like wow you're telling me that
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you got this amazing response with this like hint of
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philosophy right? Their philosophical views on
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life and all of these other complicated conversations all
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off of one question. All of of are you happy and
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asking what is your joy or what is the source of your happiness
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right now and then hearing those things and building follow-up
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questions that are super thought.
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Off of their response. So we're actively listening the
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entire time and we're not going through the form because our
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interviewers they are, they're like from a pure, you know, pure
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place. So, they're asking these
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questions. But then they're also building
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follow-up questions. During the process of what that
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person is speaking to their truth, right?
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And then the final question, the coup de gras, my most favorite
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favorite of all is the, if you could share a message with the
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world, what would that be? And that is it gets me every
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time. Time if you watch the content,
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whether it's on Tick-Tock, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube,
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even everywhere. If you watch it.
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And you see the last question you get the coolest responses a
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all the time, but then be you see them quite literally live
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their life in a series of seconds and you see it in their
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face. So if you pay attention to their
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face, you see what I call, kind of like an, are you happy?
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Oh no, I want to say scrunched. But that's not the right word,
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but their face just has like a Frank different shape that
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happens, right? And so they're thinking about
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their life, and their thinking, okay, what is my message?
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You know, what did I just live through?
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Is there something that I have relevant now?
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Or is there something I learned 20 years ago that I want to
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share and whatever they share, it's up to them.
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We don't we don't guide anything at so outside of the questions
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and then following up on their response.
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So for us, it's always been a thing of, you know, sharing the
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stories of strangers all over the world.
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However, Whenever we can, we've done it in airports how I've
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done it on airports. I've done interviews.
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On a train, identity is everywhere and the experiences
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are remarkable for both the interviewer and the interviewee
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and then we in turn, put that out on social media but also
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there's a documentary, which is in post-production and it's
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going to be out this March. So here in a couple months.
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So just craziness craziness and I think for Tick-Tock, we're
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over 4.1 million followers for Tick-Tock.
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Growing everyday. We have Ends of views like on a
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weekly basis easily over 15 million views a week, crazy
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views. And then, you know, Instagram,
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we have over 130,000. I want to say, followers, and
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that grows every week. We started interviewing
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celebrities about happiness. And that was so successful,
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recently, re-interviewed Alexander Billings, who's a, an
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actress, and she's amazing. So yeah, it's just onward and
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upward, But ultimately, the core of it is believing that everyone
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Every single person has a story worth sharing and it's on us to
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to facilitate that and to, you know, let them share their
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stories because I guarantee you that you're going to receive
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something from it. Something then matter what it
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is. But you're going to receive
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something and during the pandemic, it was everything.
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So pandemic time, right? We're all indoors.
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We can't leave, we can't go anywhere.
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So we wanted to connect with everyone, right?
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So you saw more content coming out where people are trying to
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connect with others. We Saw a film festivals where,
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you know, filmmakers could not go outside or go on location so
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what did they do? They filmed inside their houses
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and they used basic things like little I want to say Mone toes
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in Spanish that's you know the little toys.
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So they use toys to do like kind of like a, what is it when you
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record? You take pictures of the item.
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It's like flash. What is it animation?
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What is that you don't talk about?
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Like yeah so they were doing animated videos with little tiny
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toys and so all of this really cool stuff came creatively.
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But ultimately you know, everyone was in a place where
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they were, you know, not doing so well and we needed to connect
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with other people and I think that are you happy, they still
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continue during the pandemic time and help to facilitate
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those connections. So so much Yeah, and there's a
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lot for me to unpack right now. Got a bunch of questions, this
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room somewhere and I think the first one I want to sort of
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focus on those in the beginning of that, you said that the
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initial journey and the purpose of the journey was to find the
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the happiest person in the world.
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And I think the first thing that struck me is like, how do you
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define happiness and to a larger extent?
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Like how do you define, who is the happiest of all those
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people? Excellent questions.
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Excellent questions. And I believe that that is
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explored within the documentary and even.
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So if it isn't, it's an ongoing discussion and ongoing debate
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and I don't believe that there is yet to be answer or response
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that can be accurately described nothing.
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What do you think? What do I think that what that
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happiness looks like? Is that what you're asking?
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Yeah. Okay, so personally personally,
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I don't believe that there is one set response for it.
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I've seen, I've had the pleasure and the honor to interview
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thousands of people. Now whether it's her or in
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person and I, you know, I have the pleasure to, you know,
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oversee 3,000-plus content creators for.
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Are you happy? And then on our commercial side
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with happy Productions. I oversee like a lot of people
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for for our other content production.
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So, So I see that happiness looks differently for everyone
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and I believe it's like, you know, based on their personal
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experience and their personal views on how their life has
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come, right? And so we all develop whatever
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our I guess read on happiness and our own interpretation.
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And then we just constantly evolve because it changes, we
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change all the time, our ideas change and our preferences.
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So it would make sense that it would be a continuous evolving.
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Description for happiness. I think.
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But personally, I just, I just believe that we find it in
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everything and that if we can find happiness, whether it's,
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you know, a laugh, or a smile, or a moment of just, you know,
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Joy, whatever it is. If we can find that in
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everything, then we'll be better for it.
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And we'll have much, you know, more Rich richer lives are more
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colorful days so I just yeah. Some people were mark on that in
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our videos already and those Say, oh, it's the little things
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totally, true. Some might say, oh it's you
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know, these specific moments that changed our lives.
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Totally true. All of that.
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It's true. So I that's not really an
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accurate answer for you but continuously evolving, you know.
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It's it's a yeah. Subjective to the person.
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Yeah, that's true. That's very true in the
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thousands of interviews that you that you conducted what was the
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most memorable. One that stood out to you, that
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maybe hit you on a personal level for some reason, or that
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just kind of inspired you in some way.
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Wow, I talked about this one all the time on our show and I have
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to kind of stop because I'm you know, how if you listen to an
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episode multiple times and you're like, oh crap I know.
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Darn it. I referenced it again and it's
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in multiple episodes. But I think there's a reason why
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it's I do that all the time and I'm like, all people must be so
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sick and tired of hearing my stories.
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This point Does that story needed tone track to introduce?
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I just come in with it. I tape recorded bottarga.
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Hold on play. All right, there you go.
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I'll just sit and relax. Oh, well I would have to talk
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the next 15 minutes so my most memorable one is, is on my first
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day. I was at the mall and I'll
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preface this by saying that when I came to are you happy?
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I was a volunteer. Just like all the people that
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enter the The program. And now I'm second to the head
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of the entire thing. Yeah, so when I came along, it
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was 3:00 in the morning that I was on Tick-Tock and I was
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scrolling through and I saw their videos and I was like,
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what in the heck is this? I need.
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This is amazing, you know, and and it said at the very end
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there's a call to action that says join our team of
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interviewers, you know. And if you've ever seen that
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film, what is it with Adam Sandler?
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And the little boy, Yeah. Oh, Gods could drive me nuts.
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Yeah, I know what you're about daddy, that's it.
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Yeah, so if you remember, when they're Scuba Steve and the
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little boys like I can be a member of this, goof is cloth
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like that. That's how I found out.
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I was like, I could be an interviewer on this team.
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And so I joined and I remember thinking to myself, you know,
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this could either be a very memorable Story, the cocktail
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party, or it could be something that's completely life-changing
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and my whole life has been around doing everything
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possible. Able to, you know, to just to
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just grasp whatever it is that's in front of me and just grow
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with it not even doubting and just go with it cause you never
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know where it leads and it's led to a ridiculously awesome career
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in production and all that I do creative wise but going back.
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So I joined it at three in the morning and then the first day I
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go out I go to the mall because I'm like people are at the mall.
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It's do this. It's Christmas time and I
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approach this balloon maker so you know how people make animals
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for the kids? Yeah.
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So he Making animals for the kids and I asked him if I could
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interview them and he gives this amazing interview and he's
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probably like the happiest person I've come across in a
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long time, but the way that he explained, you know, doing what
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you love and just, and just, you know, not taking life.
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So seriously and just do whatever it is, you love, and
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damn, the rest. And just the way that he kind
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of, like held himself, it was so confident and so pure, but he
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had like the most pure laughs like a child.
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He was just so happy. This guy is just radiating
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happiness. Enos.
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But whatever it is that was in that particular interview.
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When it got posted, there was a comment where someone had said,
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you know, I wasn't planning to be here tomorrow, but then I saw
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this and I think I'm going to stay Wow.
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Yeah, like like how do you, how do you read that?
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And not feel something feel so many things, you know?
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And, and that, that was when I realized like this is beyond me
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this is beyond, you know, this is the kind of connections and
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responses and emotions and the, what they receive from those
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videos because you know, you're literally interviewing
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strangers, all over the world. So the ability to facilitate
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perspectives all over that, we would never see It's beyond us
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and it helps so many people so seeing that I can never forget
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that. I can never forget that, you
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know, someone decided to stick around in this world because of
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something that I helped facilitate, you know, by just
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pressing record. So what was the most difficult
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or challenging interview that you heard?
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Yeah, I thought of that one, too, when you said most
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memorable. So at nighttime I was downtown
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and Dallas interviewing people, and I came across this lady that
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I thought was going to be. Super happy.
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And then she asked me a lot of questions, like why was I doing
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this? What was I doing?
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And then eventually gave permission and so I was like,
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okay great like are you happy? And she says, no.
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And then the whole time, she looks like she's going to cry
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the whole time and I'm trying to get through these questions.
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But I'm also trying to kind of facilitate the conversation, and
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it's just really hard is hard. It's so hard.
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And I want to ask her like so many things, but I want to be
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respectful of the same time, right?
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And not be invasive. And so at the very end, I asked
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her, you know, if he could share a message, what would it be?
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And she said you spend so much time wasting On thoughts about,
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you know, fear and and and what you think that you can't do or
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shouldn't do. We waste so much time?
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Worrying about that and she's like and then it never happens.
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Whatever it is that we fear is going to happen and never
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freaking happens. And we waste the time thinking
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about that stuff and that whole time, she just looks like she's
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gonna bawl her eyes out. Like, you feel it.
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You can feel it watching the video and it's on Instagram by
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the way, if for some reason, it didn't make it to tick-tock.
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Just a technical error but it's on Instagram.
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This lady with short hair sitting there and it's the
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shortest interview I'd ever done.
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I think you know and yeah just it made so much sense though.
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Like yeah, we totally worried about stuff all the time and
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then we find out later that it never happened.
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And she and she basically was conveying that she wasted her
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whole life worrying about stuff. And so by the end of that, you
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know, when we when we recap she was you know looking like she
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was going to cry and she did afterward and all I could do all
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I could think about doing after that was Be like hey can I give
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you a hug because you need you need a hug.
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I need a hug lie to everybody. The whole world needs a hug
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right now. And so we spent time chatting
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and talking about, you know, what was going on in her life
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and how she had just relocated and such.
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But then what was really weird is that she must have been on a
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date with her boyfriend because then this guy comes and he has
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drinks and food and then like the switch flips and she's
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happy, I was like, what the heck, what does happen here?
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And it turns out that this guy at the love of this man made her
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happy and so the minute he comes.
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Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.
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I was like, wait, we wait, like we just spent this like what you
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see when you said that my mind straight away went to like, oh
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no this is one of those like sudden and I Stockholm syndrome
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type deals like you know that she's pretending but then you
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say no no she's actually really happy and it's because it is
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question but then it kind of makes you think about how you
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know. We are carved compartmentalize
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though and how We might have some really, really awful things
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that we're going through and then another part of us there's
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some really good things. And so we have this this, you
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know, variety of emotions that were facing all the time.
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So it was really odd to see that happen but the sad portion that
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was super difficult interview. Is when you're with someone that
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shares something that is beyond, you know, makes you feel so sad,
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like they might be homeless and that really hits hard with you
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and you're like, are you sure you want to do this interview?
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Because I don't want To take from, you know, your time if
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you're trying to find somewhere to sleep tonight that's really
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hard. But you know if they say yes I
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want to do this interview then we'll proceed.
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But we're always you know, respectful of their time and we
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in post-production we don't manipulate anything either.
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You know, we're not like forcing the story.
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Like we just are able to facilitate these really
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beautiful stories. Yeah, it's it's interesting
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though because like, you do get a lot of I've seen when I
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originally checked out the brand but you get a lot of negative
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responses from people say you are.
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Someone, are you happy? And they say no.
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And you find out why? And I suppose, the biggest thing
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that comes to my mind is, is there a lot of recap done?
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Do you find these people later on and they're doing better?
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Like, what does the Aftercare look like?
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How do you help people or do you help people?
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Like what's what goes on there? And that's a good question
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because we've been asked that before and and typically like
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after that interview it's pretty rare that will run into the
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person again because our creators are either, you know,
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traveling or maybe they're in a place that they've never been.
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So they may not go there again, but it has happened where we've
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come across people. A handful of times, one of our
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content creators came across somebody at the park and then
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they saw them again later on with their family and got to do
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like a you know, a little selfie with Them.
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And that was really great. But afterward if they're in like
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a bad place, you know. Like if it's something that's
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super serious than I'm hoping I know for myself, I can only
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speak for myself in the field but if it comes to me where I'm
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interviewing someone in the field, or even maybe on a
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podcast too because it's just my human nature to help people.
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But afterward I will have that conversation and be like hey,
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you know, are you okay? Here's some resources that you
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may want to check out or let's connect you with someone when we
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You like really, really difficult comments online.
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Then, you know, if we can make it happen, will communicate to
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them and be like, hey are you okay?
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You know, and kind of check in when we have those interviews
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where people are like I'm not happy.
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We give them just as much room to express, why not?
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Because there are other people that are watching that are going
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through the same thing, if not something similar, where they
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can receive some kind of message from that.
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So I think that there's just as much value in the stories, where
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they're Not happy versus, you know, thinking that the ones
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that are happy are far greater, I think they're equal.
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And it will be interviews that you've done and all the videos
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that you've edited or seen or experienced.
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Then under this, are you happy brand?
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Is there a particular life lesson that you took from all of
22:22
them or like, one of them, that's particularly stands out
22:25
that you like. Yeah, that's the one.
22:26
That's the biggest thing. Biggest take away from this
22:29
experience. I think it's a combination of
22:33
all of them. Honestly, the biggest takeaway
22:37
for me is that nothing is ever what it seems ever.
22:41
So when we come across someone and we think that they're happy
22:45
or we think that they're not happy, you know sometimes it's
22:48
the case but a lot of times it's never what we think it is and by
22:52
us like initiating conversations with everyone then you know
22:56
we're able to experience more and learn more and sometimes we
22:59
come across someone that we may not Not normally approach as a
23:02
stranger without a camera, right?
23:04
But then when you do, and you have this interesting
23:07
conversation with someone that you would have never normally
23:09
come across or even said, hi to, it's life-changing.
23:16
Hmm. It's it's one of those ones
23:19
isn't it? Just makes you sick?
23:23
Yeah, I do want to point out that I am not all of.
23:26
Are you happy? Just like ossetra because not
23:28
only are you happy? Are you?
23:29
Happy consists of three, thousand-plus creators and we
23:33
get more every day but that we want to grow, right?
23:37
But also we have a team of editors.
23:39
We have a mazing editors and they are wonderful.
23:44
We have creative directors, we have a strategist who works on
23:47
our commercial side, we have client managers for our
23:50
commercial side, which is Happy Productions.
23:52
So, effectively everything that we do here through.
23:55
Are you happy and the type of strategy that we've developed to
23:58
share stories and be effective storytellers, and be really, you
24:02
know, amazing at putting together content, that's
24:05
worthwhile entertaining, but also, educating as well.
24:09
All of these wonderful things that we do.
24:10
We couldn't do it without the massive teams that we have
24:12
behind us and especially Specially for our commercial
24:15
clients with happy production. So in turn all the essence and
24:18
things that we have here on, are you happy?
24:21
We have also built that same model into our commercial
24:25
process where we help our clients to develop their brand,
24:29
their voice and also tell unique stories about them because it's
24:33
no longer about the products right now.
24:36
On Instagram on Tik Tok you see a lot of commercial companies
24:40
coming in and telling these beautiful stories about them and
24:43
why. They do what they do.
24:45
And that's something that is, is, is better at reaching Their
24:50
audience versus the product. So, I'd love to say to people
24:53
that it's no longer a store, a conversation about what's in the
24:57
box, it's about who's behind the box and you can, you can take
25:01
that to the bank. That's what I tell people all
25:02
the time. I know it for a fact.
25:04
I've seen it. But yeah.
25:07
So happy Productions is super successful at doing short form
25:10
content for businesses and other commercial.
25:14
Ends, we work with authors and several different kinds of
25:16
clients. We work with Burberry Warner,
25:17
Brothers. So many different people.
25:20
And actually, right now we're looking for Content creators who
25:22
are in the UK. So, London and Central Area, we
25:25
have work for Content creators in the UK.
25:27
So, I hope that people listening in your UK surrounding areas,
25:32
will definitely reach out and you're more than welcome to
25:35
share. My contact information for that,
25:36
but this whole ride, you know, it's a journey, but it's an
25:40
amazing journey. We have, we have amazing teams,
25:43
we have And do amazing work. And then we're just, we're just
25:47
blessed to be able to work with people and I tell you this,
25:51
like, not even joking, we have people that are so committed to
25:54
what they do that. They work hours beyond the
25:58
normal business hour because they love it.
26:00
And we have people that are so creative that they can, you
26:05
know, whip up ideas within seconds and then create like
26:08
this conversation and come up with various like story plans
26:12
and it's insane. I'm like, we have like this
26:14
creative genius in our team and I always tell off a trap card
26:19
that I don't know how he did it. Like teach me how to do that
26:22
because, you know, having people around you that are just like
26:26
superheroes as I call them, it's amazing.
26:29
But for us, like going to the office Virtual Office on a
26:32
Monday because all of our people are all over the world.
26:35
Right? It's not Monday.
26:38
It's never Monday because because everyone just loves what
26:40
they do. You mentioned them, we've kind
26:43
of learned it throughout the course of you speak in there.
26:46
Like, I can tell, I mean, if you don't have a background in
26:49
marketing and sales, they'll be very surprised because you're
26:52
clearly very good at. Yeah, it's selling the product
26:56
branding it, but seeks, the Deep background in marketing.
26:59
Know I was, I did sales before, but I've never been classically
27:04
trained. I'm just naturally good at lots
27:06
of nature. The furniture, I can read music
27:14
and such, but I taught myself to play the piano on a whim because
27:17
I was bored. So, I don't know.
27:20
I mean, that's amazing. I was laughing because I assumed
27:23
you were saying, like, in the sense that classically trained
27:25
in sales and marketing. That's sweet man, right?
27:28
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
27:31
That's very clever. I will say this, I mean I got a
27:37
degree in marketing and to be honest it I didn't learn really
27:42
about Out marketing to actually start working in it because it
27:45
is like a way of looking at certain things and reflecting on
27:48
things and stuff. But you do it.
27:50
Well, it's something I picked up a but what I want to focus on is
27:53
that you mentioned that you're directly underneath the main.
27:58
Let's say owner CEO. I don't know how you want to put
28:00
it like the leader of this this situation.
28:05
You mentioned that. Yeah.
28:06
So like how long ago did you start with them?
28:09
Let's start there man. Yeah.
28:12
I think I'm well they say two years but I feel like it's less
28:15
than that. So we'll just say two years.
28:17
Sure, right. Okay, this is incredible.
28:19
So you started as a volunteer, two years ago and now two years
28:23
later your right-hand man centrally are you the director,
28:28
okay. So you're the director.
28:29
Are you happy Ragtime? I am managing director for, are
28:32
you happy? So that means everything the
28:35
whole universe. He gave me the keys.
28:37
Like, actually way before that first of all, congratulations.
28:42
Nations. You, secondly, walk us through
28:45
like how you got to that point? Because I feel like it's
28:48
probably going to be a combination of many different
28:50
factors, but I want to kind of hear it in your words because I
28:52
think this is a quite an expiring thing that people could
28:55
pick a lot. Oh sure.
28:57
I mean, there are people in my own family that I like how in
28:59
the hell did you do that? But you're also talking to
29:02
someone who talked their way into an internship after a
29:04
15-year break of working in film and production so well, is that
29:07
okay? Yeah so for are you happy?
29:11
I came in as a volunteer And I just hit things full force.
29:14
This is what I do and I think that that has a great deal of
29:18
success in anything that you do, right?
29:21
So I put everything into it and then when I had situations where
29:25
my phone wasn't working or something, logistically was not
29:28
happening. I pivoted.
29:30
And I found a way to do something else to be useful.
29:32
So I started talking to people in the community and answering
29:35
questions. Well, I get a DM from off a and
29:39
he says, I want to meet with you and let's have a meeting and I'm
29:41
like, okay, Crap. I'm in trouble for overstepping.
29:44
So now I have this meeting with him and he was like or I said
29:47
I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry, whatever I did.
29:50
I'm sorry. Five bags, full and he goes I'm
29:52
not trying to punish you. He's like I'm trying to hire you
29:56
because who are was statement. He's like first off who are you
30:01
he's like you just walked into my my company or you just walked
30:05
into this place. It just started helping people
30:08
and and operating in such a manner as if you already worked
30:11
here, I was like this is what I do.
30:15
If I see a need for for help or something that I just, I don't
30:18
even think about I just do it. I'm so I did that and he said,
30:21
would you be our community manager and and we would love to
30:24
pay you for that. And as I could have been of
30:26
course this is so much fun and at the time I was a full-time
30:29
insurance agent and I'm still a license by the way.
30:32
But yeah yeah I'm licensed in Texas Colorado and New Mexico I
30:37
think. Yeah.
30:38
So I decided like okay, I'm gonna You know, I'm going to
30:42
work and I was going to school to for film and video and
30:46
production stuff and so I was doing these three things but I
30:50
was so adamant about doing the work because I loved it and I
30:54
had passion for it and it involved all the things that I
30:57
love. So it involved production, it
31:00
involved video, creativity humanity and and and really,
31:04
like helping people. So above all.
31:06
I'm always had like that servant's heart, you know?
31:09
And the willingness to help people without even thinking
31:12
about It's just second nature. So, all of these things were in
31:15
that work and so I was in love with it and committed before I
31:19
even had this commitment. So, I think that is what led to
31:23
the quick rise I suppose in my position.
31:26
But once I became Community manager, I started, you know,
31:29
working with everyone and then setting up these events and of
31:32
course you have things at work. Things that don't work.
31:34
But then you just grow and then attitude you know, what do you
31:38
do with that when you fail? Well, you know, for some people
31:41
they fail and they Stew in that. But I don't I can't, I have to
31:44
keep moving forward. So I have to keep innovating or
31:47
pivoting rather to make it work or create something new and just
31:52
continuously be moving and doing something, right?
31:55
So that that's my thing and and soon after that he said hey we
32:01
have room on our commercial side with happy Productions.
32:04
Why don't you come over and also work with us over here?
32:07
Okay? So I went over there, and I
32:10
started. What was I doing?
32:13
I don't recall what I was doing over there but eventually it
32:17
evolved to being production management eventually that's,
32:21
that's what it evolve to but I was always helping a lot of
32:24
people in various other areas, but for are you happy after
32:27
Community manager, then it was like, okay, we're going to
32:30
promote you. And you know, you already have
32:33
keys to the castle as the community manager, but now
32:37
you're going to be managing director of the whole.
32:39
Are you happy Universe along with, you know, with with Him.
32:42
And it was an extreme honor. And and I got to hire a new
32:45
community manager. And we're currently building,
32:48
you know, the future for that. So it's insane.
32:51
There's a so insane. I could never understand how
32:54
someone put so much trust in me so quickly.
32:56
I guess I do because I mean, I'm an honest person and stuff and
32:59
it shows, right? But it was ridiculously fast and
33:03
I'm a fast-moving person so I was there for it.
33:07
You know, I embrace it. 100%. What was your first thought when
33:12
he told you that you were going to become managing director.
33:16
It's like okay, okay, okay, okay.
33:25
Of course you have your poker face, right?
33:27
So you don't let it let out or you don't let anyone see that.
33:31
You're, like, quaking at the knees, you know, but I'm just
33:34
like, okay. Okay, okay, so I just, I just
33:39
ran with it. I knew That and do that,
33:41
whatever happened. He'd be there to support me and
33:43
all the various team folks that we have.
33:45
So I knew that I had like a safety net of people but I just
33:49
I just took it. I just took it and ran with it
33:51
because I think that if we're if we're given a gift if we're
33:54
given something, anything at all, whether we're prepared or
33:57
not Universe thinks you are so you know that it is what it is.
34:03
If the universe gives you a gift who are we to question it or
34:06
question our abilities because, you know, by now now you know
34:11
what, what you can do and you surprise yourself with what you
34:15
attempt and succeed at. So why the hell not, why
34:18
wouldn't we try things that we that were not accustomed to?
34:22
I was in a managing director before I was an insurance agent.
34:26
I went to film school for like two years and then I had to
34:30
leave. This is like 2002 ran out of
34:34
money. I failed miserably and I was a
34:35
first-generation college students.
34:37
It was a big deal. And then I failed like Epic
34:40
failed. And I spent 15 years figuring
34:43
out what to do while working in non-profit work.
34:46
And then also at one point, losing my housing and having to
34:49
navigate, you know, life in another state, thousands of
34:52
miles away. So I went through a various
34:56
amount of difficulties but but I have, I don't know what it is
35:00
and and I honestly can't pinpoint how but somehow I've
35:04
been able to come back and you know each and every time and and
35:09
not be Uh, Jaded by all the things that happened to me
35:13
somehow I couldn't tell you how but what I can tell you is that
35:18
I guess I operate in such a way that I don't let what happened
35:22
to me effect. What what comes afterward or
35:26
what I do. It's almost like you're
35:28
happening to the world versus the world happening.
35:30
You know? I mean that makes sense like
35:32
your your what's happening to everything else around you
35:35
versus the other way around. I don't know.
35:38
That's why I think nice. It's incredible.
35:41
I mean, I was pretty much just going to ask you like how you
35:43
got through that because, you know, I go back and forth all
35:46
the time on how I feel about this and I've Got Friends
35:50
picnic. You know, it's like I have this
35:52
friend who I had on the podcast shoutout to James morale is
35:57
incredible actor. He's really, really talented
36:00
content creator and he's sort of bouncing between jobs, get to
36:07
make ends meet just Same as me, same as everyone else, trying to
36:09
become an actor and where everything else and you can
36:15
tell, it's kind of getting to him because, you know, he very
36:18
recently was in a theater production smashed.
36:20
It did really well. You know and I know that feeling
36:23
when you you get some work in. Yeah yeah this is this is it.
36:26
I'm an actor. I'm doing it right?
36:29
And then you finish Because it's a freelance industry and then
36:33
you go back to, I don't know, regular life, I guess and I
36:37
think it's it's bothering him and it's, you know, and he's
36:42
very open and honest about it. He's the same as me like we both
36:45
were our hearts and Our Sleeve. We talk about it.
36:48
Maybe it's not always the greatest thing to talk about it.
36:50
I don't know. But it's just how we both
36:52
function and and I totally understand that about him and
36:55
he's a great guy. He's a really good guy, deserves
36:58
a break, right? But the reason I bring it up is
37:01
That. You know, I reached out to him a
37:03
few times, and I said to him the other day that you got keep
37:05
going, you'll keep trying. And he is interesting, because
37:10
my perspective looking at him, is that he's doing way better
37:13
than me? Like I'm just, you know,
37:15
plodding along, trying to get a break and it's not really going
37:18
anywhere, right? And he's killing it like he's
37:21
absolutely killing it. But I guess he doesn't see that
37:23
because he's looking at the Hard reality of one working at this
37:26
place right now. And that's my reality.
37:29
And I feel that like, it was only a few weeks.
37:32
Go that I was still working in a bar job and, you know, that
37:36
ended for various reasons. And here I am now throwing
37:41
everything Against the Wind, just trying, you know, I got
37:45
acting this got portfolio. So yeah, I'm working on stuff.
37:50
I'm throwing myself out there, but it's hard and you do go back
37:57
and forth. And you have these moments where
37:58
you're like, Am I kidding myself is my just not good enough, is
38:05
it not supposed to happen for me?
38:07
Do I not have a lock? If you know, all these thoughts
38:10
go back and forth, back and forth, and You mentioned there
38:17
that you went to film school? That was your passion.
38:18
That was what you loved. It didn't quite work out and
38:21
then you were sort of spending the next 15 years like exploring
38:25
find any. So I feel like now this right
38:28
here, this you this version of you, it's all been building up
38:31
to this and this is the best version of you and it will keep
38:34
moving forward, right? That's how life works, right?
38:37
But in those harder times, I know you said before, you
38:41
weren't 100% sure what kept me going, but, is there anything
38:44
maybe? That you learn.
38:47
From some of the failures and some of the difficult times that
38:51
did keep you going or something. That anything that just kept you
38:55
going and kept you pushing through to this point now.
38:59
Yeah, yeah. So I mean, I grew up with a lot
39:01
of a lot of like, really difficult situations because of
39:06
my surroundings and family life and I guess not having
39:11
everything and yet you're always short, you're always falling
39:14
short. So there's a lot of criticism of
39:17
A lot of like teasing that comes along with that like, in the
39:19
schoolyards, right? So lots and lots of things that
39:21
happen to you throughout your life when you're having just a
39:24
rough go of it. And so, I learned not to listen,
39:29
so, that's what it was. That is it, that is like, one of
39:32
two. Things of what it was is that I
39:33
learned not to, listen, to other people because everyone had and
39:36
I don't know. Can you curse on the show?
39:38
Yeah, it was good. Okay.
39:40
So a lot of people had a lot of crap to say a lot of shit to say
39:44
and I was like, you know, why in the heck, are we wasting time?
39:46
Listening to that Just under crap.
39:48
So what I decided was that, you know, I wasn't going to listen
39:51
to anybody within reason, right? But when it came to like really
39:53
harsh criticisms or whether you're telling me something
39:56
because you're feeling bad about your career or you're feeling
39:58
bad about your place in Life, or the fact that you didn't make it
40:01
all the way. So you're going to take it out
40:03
on me. I was like, why am I listening
40:04
to that? So I just stopped listening to
40:06
other people in that regard. And it saved me.
40:10
I think because I stopped listening to the negativity and
40:14
taking it. I just you know let it bounced
40:15
off, what's that? At school age adage that's like
40:19
you know whatever whatever bounces off me or the what is
40:23
it? I'm Rubber and you're glue.
40:25
All right. Yeah whatever.
40:28
So let's do that. So it was like why do I care?
40:37
And then think about all the time we waste on caring about
40:40
that rates. A lot of wasted time I'm going
40:42
to say that. It's like you're in my head
40:44
right now like the onus it. This is something I've spoken
40:48
about on my live streams fairly recently like this, the
40:51
importance of not giving a flying.
40:53
Fuck what? Exactly, and it's like and doing
40:57
what you're doing right now with just just working on whatever,
41:01
whatever you can get your hands on, whatever you can put out
41:04
there. That is the key right there.
41:06
That's the key doing something and not being still, because if
41:09
you're be still and you way, it's not going to fall in your
41:11
lap for some, it might, but this is not normally going to happen
41:14
that way, but if you just do something, NG all the time
41:17
toward whatever that goal is of being an actor voice actor.
41:21
Having these deals having people come to you, you know, with with
41:24
scripts or what have you, you know, it'll happen eventually.
41:27
Sure. But for now now is time for the
41:29
hard work and to work every single job that you possibly
41:32
can. It is what it is.
41:34
I've interviewed quite a few CEOs in production and other
41:37
directors and they say, the exact same thing.
41:39
They're like, I started off as a PA or a production assistant and
41:43
I, you know, I coiled cables and I got coffee whatever.
41:45
But eventually They got to spend time with the assistant director
41:51
or they got to spend time and Shadow the cinematographer, all
41:54
these things that happen because they just put themselves in the
41:57
environment and did whatever they possibly could.
42:00
And then they networks and they got jobs and it's just, it just
42:03
builds from there. But if we don't do anything, if
42:05
we stay listening to other people, excuse me that say that
42:10
it can't happen or that you'll never go far.
42:12
Well then we're all automatically at a loss or
42:16
behind but But I think for your friend, I can understand feeling
42:20
like, okay, where I am now versus where I think, successful
42:24
me should be or gauging it based off of the job the day job that
42:29
you have to fulfill versus your success as an actor.
42:33
I understand the thought process but I honestly believe that it's
42:36
almost as if you have to put blinders on and say, okay, I'm
42:39
still going to focus on the task at hand, which is doing this
42:42
work and getting these me getting those jobs.
42:52
I was sick recently. Anyway.
42:54
Oh that's what Texans say. And usually they don't mean it
42:58
in a good way when they say bless your heart.
43:00
No, I mean it. I mean it, I hope you are
43:02
feeling better. Oh, totally totally better.
43:05
But yeah, so you have to put blinders on and and forget about
43:09
the fact that you work at, you know, a marketing agency or
43:11
forget about the fact that you work at a bar who cares, you
43:14
know, that's just that's just allowing the money to come in
43:16
to. Rotate.
43:17
Your basic needs is nothing to do with your success, nothing at
43:20
all. So just keep on doing what
43:23
you're doing and work. All the jobs and network and do
43:27
do whatever you got. You have to do to be active in
43:29
the field, that's literally it and then everything else will
43:31
come. I hope you're right man.
43:36
I believe it hope for his sake because he deserves it, my sake.
43:39
I because I just I don't know. I believe in it now.
43:43
I feel like it's possible. I know there's people that
43:46
believe in me, but he's I think the difficulty with this though
43:50
is separating the reality that's in front of you versus where you
43:55
see yourself and where you aspire to be because it's hard.
44:00
They are is Oh, I believe it, and I see it, you know, I see it
44:04
was casting and I see it with, you know, with hiring with us
44:06
hiring, you know, creators and even actors, or whatever, for
44:09
whatever commercial something that was going on.
44:12
But you see the casting, right? And the large influx of people
44:17
that are wanting to have that position in this, you gonna give
44:25
them to make it through. I'm gonna grab some water real
44:29
quick. I'll keep talking Well, I just
44:32
hope that she makes it through so that we can continue their
44:35
illness and she does, she doesn't die on us.
44:40
That's what I'm hoping you're okay, you're right?
44:45
Yeah, yeah, I have a home office, you know, like everybody
44:48
else does, you know, this reminds me of and I've said this
44:51
before, but, like, you see, like, I don't know if you had
44:54
this when you were at school but, you know, like when you're
44:56
in an assembly and someone the teachers talking, And it's
45:00
definitely quiet and you just can't stop coughing and you're
45:05
just like I just don't get anxiety Billy.
45:07
Yeah, come on please stop please.
45:10
Come on, it happens. It just it happened to me I was
45:13
on a on a coach coming back from Manchester to London, and I
45:19
could not for the life of me, stop myself coughing, I just
45:22
kept coughing and coughing and coughing it and I I had to
45:25
apologize to the guy next semester.
45:26
I'm so sorry like I just I don't know what's wrong with me.
45:30
There was a stop-off, I got myself water, that didn't help
45:34
and in the end I just kind of acquiesced and just accepted it.
45:37
But now there was that there was other people there.
45:39
I mean it was it was a shit show.
45:40
There was one point some kid threw up in the aisleway right
45:44
next to us. And we were like two and a half
45:48
hours late and Nightmare, I forgot.
45:51
I forgot about that Journey. That sucked.
45:54
That's a like. Wow, it's yeah, just yeah.
45:58
Never a dull moment in my life If but yeah, anyway it's hard
46:03
it's hard to keep that perspective positive, right?
46:06
When things aren't working or you're really active and it's
46:09
just not producing. Yeah, do it.
46:12
Do it. Anyway.
46:12
Do it with the exact same intensity that you do it.
46:15
When things are going right, do it with the exact same intensity
46:18
when things are not going right? And I promise you, it'll pay
46:20
off. It totally does I come from a
46:23
background where, you know, I like I went to I went to film
46:26
School. When I failed miserably, I said,
46:31
okay, pivot do something else. So I went to Seattle and I
46:37
joined Americorps, which is like domestic, Peace Corps, you're
46:39
helping people serving communities, so I did that.
46:43
And then, you know, chaos, ensued or whatever, and I had
46:46
to, you know, figure out my housing situation and eventually
46:50
got back to Texas. And from there, I said, okay,
46:53
what do I do now? Well, alright, let's let's find
46:56
a different job because I wasn't Was it ready to do creative
46:59
things again yet for many years? Actually, because I was so
47:02
scarred by the fact that I failed film film school and
47:07
sorry, I didn't actually fail film school.
47:10
What it was is that I ran out of money because it was a private
47:13
school. So I ran out of money and I
47:15
could no longer attend and so I had to withdraw, I didn't fail.
47:18
I was doing quite well but just like the experience of that
47:23
failure. It was unlike anything because I
47:25
had never failed before that I graduated top of My class with
47:28
scholarships and so forth, right?
47:30
I did really well scholastically and and and in my, you know,
47:34
Hobbies with like marching band and all these activities that
47:37
you do. But I wasn't used to failure at
47:40
that level for sure and so it took a long time before I could
47:44
even do anything creative and the first thing I did do when I
47:47
decided to get back to being creative was start a podcast and
47:51
that was 2014. What did you do the podcast on?
47:56
And originally it's still around its tail around, it's actually.
48:00
Yeah, it's around its Vanessa, the vivacious show and I did
48:05
delete the old episodes because they are quite embarrassing and
48:09
I had them around for years thinking like oh you know what,
48:11
it's a badge of honor but that's that's not good.
48:14
When you have perspective, people that want to work with
48:16
you come and he listened to really bad quality.
48:19
So I'm like, yeah, that's archive and put it on the
48:21
website. So mmm.
48:23
Doing so now it's all kind of current things.
48:25
But I enjoy talking about whatever is going on whatever is
48:30
going on in my daily life and it kind of Spurs the conversation
48:33
on to other topics. So that's pretty much what I do.
48:36
So it's almost as if you're having like an audio blog right
48:39
now. So that's yeah.
48:41
I used to play music in between because I had no idea what to
48:45
say. So I would talk for a minute and
48:47
be like, okay now we're going to listen to some music and play
48:52
music and I would Pirate, the music and then do some kind of
48:56
like recording because a lot of the software that exists now was
49:00
it really around back then. So I'd have to figure out a way
49:02
around it and then you'd have this god-awful quality of music
49:07
and then I couldn't monetize a course, because it's all
49:08
copyrighted, this is before I had a copyright, Class 2 years
49:12
ago. But yeah.
49:15
So that's what I did. That's first thing I did and
49:17
then, you know, years later after being, in retail being an
49:21
insurance, I was like there's more to this There's more to me
49:24
getting in trouble in the office when they're telling me, not to
49:28
focus on, you know, the the presentation and the creative
49:32
outlet that, you know, the creative output of the Flyers
49:35
that they want me to make. They're like, why actor metrics
49:40
and your notations for your calls, like, like this creative
49:43
stuff that you're putting out. We don't want that.
49:45
We want these numbers, we want you to answer the phone.
49:48
I was like, I want to do that. So then yeah, when everything
49:51
started building with with, are you happy?
49:53
I was like, you know what, I'm just gonna I'm just going to
49:56
take a pay cut and take a massive pay cut so I could build
49:59
and do everything I want. And then at that point, this is
50:03
20/20. I went back to school and a
50:08
local College even Community College and I had the best
50:12
education. I could possibly have, like best
50:15
people working in the industry, but you also had professors who
50:17
gave a damn because that was the only reason why they were there,
50:20
right? And a professor at a university
50:22
normally it's you know, And your they don't care anymore.
50:25
This one get paid, they want. They want to retire, but
50:28
Community College level is called Dallas college now, but
50:30
they used to call it something different.
50:32
So you have these teachers who care about teaching you how to
50:35
produce television, how to write a show from start to finish and
50:38
put it together in a studio down the hall.
50:41
I did, I did a kind of like a re-imagination of Mister Rogers
50:47
Neighborhood. And, and I'm actually working to
50:50
kind of build a documentary around that, but Did that with a
50:54
team with a group start to finish.
50:56
We did the scripting, we did the sets, we did everything, the
50:58
cameras, everything and produced a show.
51:01
I'll be at the camera execution wasn't on point, but the concept
51:04
of people and at the end, oh, you cried, why did you cry?
51:08
Because I made that happen. I'm very intuitive about
51:11
emotions and, and I enjoy crafting the story where at the
51:15
end you feel such love for this character and you know why?
51:19
You know, that's, it's beautiful.
51:21
So So, all of that to say that it's not, it's not a traditional
51:26
route whatsoever. But of all the directors and
51:30
production folks that I've interviewed all of them, say the
51:32
same thing where they're like, you know what, you can get just
51:35
as much success out of going to a Traditional School, just as
51:39
much as you can do it on your own.
51:41
So, there's so many examples of people who just, you know, they
51:45
just stayed the course and kept working at it, and then, and
51:47
then you got there. But the focus the main point is,
51:50
don't stop. That's the main point is.
51:52
Don't don't stop. Don't stop for anyone.
51:54
You know, don't stop. Unless you say stop.
51:59
That's why I think I'm feeling inspired.
52:03
I'm gonna flip the script now and turn the tables on you
52:10
Vanessa. Are you happy?
52:15
Yeah I love this. Yes, extremely extremely happy.
52:22
I'm you know somebody asked me hmm not too long ago and it was
52:26
funny. They asked me this question
52:27
where they're like if you could do Any job that you want to do,
52:31
what would you do? You know it was like one of
52:33
those questions and I was I took a moment.
52:35
I thought about it cause I wanted to be honest, my answer
52:38
and I thought holy shit, holy shit.
52:40
I was like, I'm doing exactly what I want to do.
52:43
I'm making content. I'm making films.
52:46
I'm making videos, I'm overseeing know, tons and tons
52:50
of people and helping them reach their creative potential, you
52:53
know, while at the same time also you know, doing my own, I'm
52:56
working with these amazing people wear like It's almost
53:00
like being Charlie and Charlie and the Chocolate Factory where
53:04
you have all of these amazing people with resources to make
53:07
your dreams, come true. And it's unbelievable.
53:10
Right. That's that's what I get to do
53:11
all the time. So I was like, holy crap.
53:14
I've worked so hard in the last couple years that I didn't look
53:18
up and notice that. That's always happening.
53:20
So when they asked me that I was like, holy shit, I'm doing it
53:23
right now, buddy. So so yeah, I'm extremely happy
53:26
because I'm doing everything that I could possibly want.
53:29
To do and at the same time I'm helping a so many people by
53:33
being able to make that content to share with them to so helping
53:37
people that's you know it's a must for that is an important
53:41
point there about self-reflection that's this
53:44
really important. I've been doing the same lately.
53:46
I've been very grateful for where I'm at now and I just keep
53:52
pinching myself every moment I'm like, I'm just so grateful to be
53:57
in this moment and to be given Opportunity to just try.
54:02
And I mean, like, even if it never goes anywhere, I'll still
54:05
be so proud of what I've achieved and the, I tried.
54:10
Yeah, exactly. Because if you try your darndest
54:14
or your heart is your thousand percent, then how can you not be
54:19
happy with that? How can you not be happy with
54:21
the fact that you gave it your? All, you know, that, that in
54:25
itself is a victory. And I think when you're talking,
54:29
Talking about, you know, when you have these jobs or you get
54:31
this one or that one and then everything stops and then
54:34
another job comes and then it stops, you know?
54:35
And it's not kind of like recurring work or what have you.
54:38
I think that the best thing to do is to focus on the fact that
54:42
you got a job, right? Just get a job.
54:46
Someone said, hey, I like this guy.
54:48
Don't forget that. It's a good way to look at it.
54:52
Yeah. What's the best advice you've
54:56
ever received? Hmm.
55:04
Best advice I've ever received. I'm drawing a blank but you know
55:18
what? Actually.
55:19
No. Because I listen to different
55:22
speakers at times and one of my favorites that I've kind of gone
55:27
back and forth to is Les Brown and his stories about, you know,
55:33
his life. But then he had said something
55:36
about you know make know your vitamin and I'm like okay cool.
55:41
I really liked that. But then also he said, when you
55:45
get in your own head and you feel like you're, you know,
55:48
going through imposter syndrome or you're just like, I can't do
55:51
that. Or how could they even approach?
55:53
Blah, blah blah. He was like, tell yourself to
55:55
shut up and then, and he says it real loud and a bunch of times.
56:00
And I'm like, heck, yes. So, every time that I feel like
56:03
that, tell myself to shut the hell up.
56:05
I can't, I tell myself that that's dumb.
56:08
That's dumb. Oh, I don't think I can do this
56:11
project. Because I don't know that that's
56:13
dumb like just tell yourself that's dumb and then you just
56:16
move on and you do it and then you show yourself that you can
56:18
do it. It's good.
56:21
And stuff. What's the biggest life lesson
56:24
you've learned so far? Biggest life lesson.
56:34
I would say. That if if we, if we ask for
56:43
help more than we probably receive more help and we, you
56:47
know, I mean, like, I always grew up doing things for myself
56:51
and I was very self-sufficient and to a point, it becomes, you
56:54
know, a bad thing because then you don't ask for help.
56:57
So, I think, and from what I've observed, when people ask for
57:00
help the people that can help you will help you if they can
57:03
write, but it, but the point of asking is so important and it's
57:08
necessary. So I think It's the biggest life
57:10
lesson for me, that, you know, asking for help isn't a bad
57:14
thing. And, and, and we should do it
57:17
more. We should normalize asking for
57:19
help because we probably get along the little bit quicker.
57:22
No, I totally agree. Yeah, it's obviously funding a
57:25
fine balance between, you know, not not using bib or going
57:29
overboard with it. But at the same time, like,
57:30
yeah, it's okay to reach out to friends, family, whatever.
57:34
And just be like, hey, could you help me with this?
57:37
And yeah, they'll more than likely want to.
57:40
So, yeah, people will help you surprising that.
57:45
You A village and we don't even know because we're just like, oh
57:48
I'm fine. I'm on my own so good, I'm
57:50
self-sufficient, but we could all use some you some help man,
57:57
as we draw things to a close for today.
57:58
Do you have any upcoming projects or some final thoughts?
58:01
You'd like to share with our listeners?
58:04
Oh yeah, totally. Thank you for having me.
58:09
Thank you for listening people. And I really hope that you pull
58:13
something from this, because Yeah, if I could, if I could
58:16
help, you know one other person, then that's a life, well-lived,
58:19
right? But happy Productions and are
58:23
you happy? I encourage people to check out
58:26
are you happy and be inspired by strangers but also you know, if
58:29
you have the creativebug and you like doing content join our
58:32
team, if you want to be a content creator and you know
58:36
work on more commercial type kind of work in the UK, let us
58:40
know, but above everything, you know, dude.
58:45
It's so imperative now more so than ever because, you know,
58:48
life has become gets more difficult and challenging what
58:53
with everything going on around us.
58:55
So it's become even more imperative to do.
58:57
What you love and Chase. Chase what you want and not,
59:01
wait 5-10 years to do it to do it.
59:04
Now, I think that's, that's what I would give as a parting
59:07
advice, is whatever it is. That your passion is, you know,
59:10
find a way whether it's big or small, whatever you can do to
59:14
implement it, or put your serums Self on that trajectory to do
59:16
that and then you'll be happier in your everyday to because then
59:20
you're doing something toward that, end of what you love and
59:24
be nice to people along the way and spread that happiness.
59:27
And you know, share, share. Share Good Vibes with people and
59:31
help make other people's lives life, just as nice.
59:33
Because the more that you also do that and give of yourself to
59:36
others, you benefit to and then everything just, you know,
59:38
builds builds in a positive way and you know, at the end of this
59:42
life, you know, we have so much that we've done and Hopefully,
59:46
hopefully we've achieved a lot and hopefully we've we've helped
59:49
a lot of people along the way but, you know, I guess if you
59:52
think about it in the long term did you do as much as you
59:55
possibly could right? Or did you help me people as
59:59
much as you could and whatever we decide that answer is then
1:00:03
you know that's that's how we've lived our life but for myself I
1:00:07
do as much as I possibly can and I help as many people as I
1:00:11
possibly can. And by the time that you know,
1:00:13
my end of life If cycle comes I know for a fact that I, you
1:00:18
know, live the hell out of this life and so that's just how I
1:00:21
live everyday. Wow, I'm very grateful that you
1:00:28
have chosen to appear on the show.
1:00:30
It's been, it's been an absolute pleasure and I've learned a lot
1:00:33
and I'm sure our listeners will get a lot from this to thank you
1:00:36
so much for being on the show. It's been a real pleasure.
1:00:38
Yeah. Thanks so much.
1:00:39
Find me on social Vanessa, the vivacious have a great day.
1:00:43
Remember to be vivacious also, absolutely.
1:00:46
And to the listeners of the Christian re podcast, as always
1:00:49
be safe. Be well, and I'll see you in the
1:00:51
next one.