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Episode 117: Our Thoughts On "Ahsoka" Episodes 1 & 2 (SPOILERS) · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there, it's time for most things Kenobi.
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I prefer all things Kenobi, but I suppose that's not the Jedi
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way, as long as it's not all things Anakin.
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Hi everyone. Welcome to another episode of
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Most Things Kenobi, a podcast about Obi Wan Kenobi and all
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things Star Wars. I'm your host, Lauren.
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And I'm your host Leanne. This week we are talking about
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the first two episodes of Asoka, which drops this week.
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I guess it was this week. Wow.
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I mean, it feels like it was a fucking three years ago.
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Since, you know, since Tuesday or Tuesday night or whenever
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that was. I watched it on Wednesday.
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So I stayed up. I do it of late to watch it, and
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I don't think I needed to. I think it dropped earlier than
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I thought it did. It was a long night.
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This is, this is our thoughts on it and and as we always do, we
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have not discussed anything prior to this episode.
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So this is the first time me and you are discussing our thoughts
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on the show. Yes, Overall, what did you
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think? Would did you like it?
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What were your just like a general reaction to it?
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I thought it was a solid 8 out of 10.
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If ten was the high and one was low, I gave it 8 out of 10.
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It was enjoyable to watch. I think Rosario Dawson knocked
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it out of the park. Yeah, I mean, they have the
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aesthetic down perfect. I mean, it took them,
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Mandalorian and Boba Fett to get there, but they they did.
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They're figuring their technology out a little better,
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that's. For sure, yes.
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And I I have a lot of questions. I have a lot of feelings, and
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actually some that might surprise you and a few others
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out there. Yeah, well, I'm interested to
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hear because I had mixed feelings personally.
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Like, it was good. Like I enjoyed it.
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I was not falling all over myself about it and I actually
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got really bored during it, which I'm like, sorry to say.
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There were, there were some slow parts.
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I mean it was it's paced, very casual.
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It's not a hit. Like hit the ground running I
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mean. Right, which Dave Filoni does
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not do. Dave Filoni has never hit the
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ground running. It's not his, I know, but you
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only have. How many are episodes 6 total?
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I think there's eight, though I think there's 8.
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Yeah, like I've always said, Dave always starts slow and has
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you sobbing by the last episode. So I fully expect to feel things
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as we go along. He wrote the the first two
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episodes and he directed the first one.
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So. Yeah, I thought it was I I
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thought. I mean visually.
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It's stunning. I they It's really beautiful.
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It is. The shots the you know just the
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overwhelming like sense that you're in Star Wars you know
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there was that feeling. I love the new characters that
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we saw. They're intriguing.
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I what's his name. Balin, thank you, has a very
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Duke who air about him. Yeah, he does.
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He's kind of old world feeling to me, He and and The
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Apprentice. Like, that's the thing that
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struck me right away. I was like she has a Padawan
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braid. She does, though.
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She does. And she's got, she's got that
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wideeyed kind of scared look about her.
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Yeah, there's she's haunted looking.
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Yeah, she I don't know. I I'm intrigued to see where it
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goes, but. Yeah, I really like the presence
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that Ray brought to the character of of Balin or Balin
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or whatever. He makes me want to know more,
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and that's what I want. When there's new characters I
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want to know. I don't want to be like
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throwaway characters. I like a little mystery, you
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know? Yeah, I actually quite liked all
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the bad guys in in this show. I liked them actually better
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than the good guys, they actually.
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Well, we already knew the good guys.
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Yeah, but like, you know me, I and I feel like there's a lot of
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people I know who have this feeling and feel like afraid to
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say it, that they didn't really connect with Rebels.
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And I'm one of those people. I didn't really connect with
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Ezra or Sabine. So why It's hard for me to care
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that much about these characters, even in live action.
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I'm interested to see where we're going to go.
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I did love Hara and Rebels. She was awesome.
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I love Hara, Asoka, Rex, Kanan, Like Love Job, and even Zeb.
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Yes, absolutely. Yes, I will say I was.
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I'm going to eat my own fucking words here and I'm going to do
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it live on air. I was pleasantly surprised by
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the Hara character live action. I thought she.
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I thought she was terrible. Did you?
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Did you? I thought it was better than
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what I was expecting, which I wasn't expecting a lot from
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what's Her weinstead What's her name?
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Mary. Elizabeth.
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Mary Elizabeth, thank you. I know a lot of people love her.
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I do not. But I thought she had that
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motherly air. She was trying.
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She tried to give that motherly listen.
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Nobody is going to be. The hero we know from Rebels #1
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because she's animated, #2 because no one's going to have
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the voice. Why didn't they just cast her?
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I don't. Know it.
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They made Steve Bloom Zeb and they made Clancy Brown was the
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governor or whatever. Which that was.
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That was lovely to say it. Was as soon as I saw him, I was
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like fine. I even said out loud like
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finally Clancy Brown gets live action in Star Wars.
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I loved it. He's amazing.
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Yes. But like, Vanessa could have
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done it. She could have.
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Hera's voice she could have is so important.
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And like, it's funny because we had opposite as you are.
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I'm not a huge fan of Mary Elizabeth Winstead.
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Winstead. I have no idea and I don't care.
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MEWMEWI have not been like, a huge fan of hers, but I I was
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like, neutral on it. Like it was like, OK, well,
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we'll see. And actually, I thought her
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makeup looked fucking weird. It was.
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Distracting to me. It was so weird.
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The contacts were a lot, but I'm going to give him the benefit of
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the doubt because she she's a fucking Twilight and they don't
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exist, you know? But I feel like you could see
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through her green makeup. It has to be like.
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It has to be like paint. I know, but they get it to look
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very natural. Yeah, and I'd be afraid it would
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flake off. You would smile and it would
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just crunch right off your face. Yeah, I don't know.
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I I found her a little bit flat, personally.
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Well, she's she's totally flat. She's totally flat.
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But she did better, in my opinion, with Hara than I was
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expecting. Now, the bar could have been in
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the basement for me to say this. I'm not.
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I'm not joking. I had very low expectations for
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Mary Elizabeth only because I'm sorry folks, but like.
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Like, you don't fuck with Hara, OK?
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And she would not have been my first choice in casting.
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Vanessa would have. But yeah, honestly, when she
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gave the line 1A bet, I was like, OK, I can, I can kind of
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get with this a little bit. Like, first of all, I'm so happy
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we went to Corellian shipyards. I was so thrilled.
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With you as soon as they do. I was like, all I could think of
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is you. I was like, Leah's going to love
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it. I fucking love shipyards.
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I love places in the Galaxy where they build things.
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And like I was I was totally immersed in that.
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I was happy. So what else did you did you
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think? Oh my.
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Like so many things. I Well, first of all, right,
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from the beginning, I loved the homage to the original movies.
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There's the crawl at the beginning.
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Yes, I was not expecting that. I wasn't either, and I loved
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that it starts with a ship. Going over just like every
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original. Well, I guess even the Pre or
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sequels. No prequels.
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Holy fuck. Too many movies.
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At least the OT had the the beginning was always a ship and
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I kind of liked that the tables were turned where it was.
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Exactly what happened on an Empire ship was now happening on
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a New Republic ship. Yes.
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Yes, we want the clearance code. We're being, you know, there's
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someone coming. I just thought it was really
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interesting that they're exactly the same.
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But the tables are like, it's that whole thing of it just kind
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of depends on who the victor is, gets to write history, you know?
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They really don't seem to be that different on the surface at
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least. Yes.
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Yeah, I did. I really.
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Yeah, it was. It was enough for us old
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schoolers. Yeah.
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Or OT people. And they had the cheesy, the
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cheesy wipes, you know, between scenes.
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Yeah, for sure, For sure. For sure.
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I I really I I gave a thumbs up to all of that.
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Yeah, it was very old school. Star Wars, I thought.
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I have a question about the temple that Asoka went into.
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Yeah. To get the ball, the Rubik's
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Cube the. Golden Snitch from Harry Potter.
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Yeah, the snitch, whatever We want to refer to it as the
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snitch. Rubik's Rubik's Cube.
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Were those carvings that were their eyes lit up and stuff?
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Were those the wills? OK, so I thought that at first
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because they looked like the wills that Yoda saw and Six or
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whatever. Or Clone Wars, but it's a Knight
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Sisters temple. It is.
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So once I learned that I had to re yeah, think like Mother
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Talzan and some sisters with the statues that had no heads that
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were outside. Because I thought the same thing
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and when the first time I watched it, because obviously we
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don't know the first time you watch it.
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And then there's like some kind of like whispering going on a
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little bit in the background. And so I thought it was the
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wills that Yoda had seen. And then I was thinking, no, it
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kind of sounds like the whispers that happened behind Mother
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Talzin when she's. Talking once I learned that
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what's her name was associated with all of that.
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OK, that's another layer that was unexpected and wonderful.
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Right. No one's talking about this
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like. I know.
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The magistrate is a night sister.
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What the fuck? I mean, this is this is the kind
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of shit that probably doesn't mean a lot to casual observers,
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but to us who are like steeped in this, that was a cool element
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that gave her more depth and and actually would.
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Make more sense? Think back to the Mandalorian
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when Asoka first appeared and then fought her, why it would
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mean more to Asoka to fight her and stuff.
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Because Asoka has. They all had some sort of
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dealing with a night sister. Yeah, you know, this goes back
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to Ventris Shit. So like.
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I know, I know. And Savage and Mall.
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And then I don't know the character's name, but the one
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from the video game. Oh yes, the the female that's
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with Cal Castes. Yeah, yes.
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I can't remember her name. I've forgotten.
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People are screaming it out there as they're listening right
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now. Sorry.
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Exactly. People always cosplay as her and
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they always look amazing. But yeah, like it.
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It connects everybody now, or at least thematically.
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It's pretty cool, actually. I'm interested to see how that
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ties into like, why can she and Thron?
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Like why can she hear Thron from another Galaxy?
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Yeah, somebody was saying, I can't remember.
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I think it was. Somebody on Instagram messaged
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me and said that this is a new Galaxy.
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Like, we've never actually gone outside of the Galaxy like Star
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Wars Galaxy. So they're like maybe the you,
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John Vong or whatever they are. Well, I was like, what could the
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Sky's the limit like? It's true.
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Did you see in the map that opened up there were the fucking
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space whales that were red? I did.
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So I think the whales are the connection to get you to this
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other Galaxy. It has to be they're the
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hyperspace lane people. Yeah, well she's making the The
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Eye of Scion, which is looks like, it looks to me like the
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the hyperspace rings that the starfighters like that Obiwan
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and Anakin used to use to go, you know, but huge like it's
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going to take. Huge.
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Massive. Further distances, so.
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Yeah. Or you could just ride a whale.
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Probably is faster. Well, whales aren't is readily
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available, so fuck it. We got to make up some, we got
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to make up some super ring. So you know the other thing for
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anyone who's played this was in my head the entire fucking time.
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Gamers, listen up if any of you have played Assassin's Creed.
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Now, I haven't played all of the assassin Creed, but I have
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played Assassin's Creed. Valhalla the Viking one.
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Them lining up the ball with the different things and making one
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giant picture is actually a thing you have to do in that
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game over and over and over and over.
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And so I was like, I have experience with this.
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I have way more experience than Sabine with this.
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Let me at it well. Because that's really
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interesting, actually, because Rebecca said one of our patrons
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said that the name Balin and his apprentice, which I can't
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remember her name now. Their names are based on Norse
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mythology, like wolves. You're absolutely correct.
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Like Wolf Hunters or something like that.
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It's Bail and Skull. I knew Skull right away was was
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Viking inspired? It's Shin Hottie.
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Is that her name? I don't know.
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I'll trust you because I I when I'm new to a show, I don't know
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anyone's name for a while. It takes me a little bit.
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I think it's cool that they're bringing some Norse.
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Mythology in because they don't often in Star Wars, it's a lot
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of like Japanese inspired, samurai inspired.
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We've seen a lot of like scifi and Lord of the Rings.
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So to see something that's like actually Norse, it's cool.
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I really like that. Yeah, and I could totally see
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bail And swapping A lightsaber for a giant shield, no problem.
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Yeah, I mean, let the fan fix begin.
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All right, we we got to talk about the elephant in the room.
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Oh yeah? What's that?
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I can't think of her name now. Sabine.
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Sabine. Yeah, what the fuck.
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I want her lost cat. Well, yeah.
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No. Her lost cat is.
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Did you see the little lost cats that, yes, stood up out of the
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ground too? Yes, and they both appeared.
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Yes, they. Loved it.
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Love it. I don't know what the fuck's
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going on with Sabine. I don't know what the fuck is
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going on. Have they retconned an entire
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storyline, or are we just starting fresh?
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We're just going to, we're just going to take another
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Mandalorian and make it into something.
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I'm so sick of Mandalorians. Honestly, I'm.
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I'm over it. I had someone message me this,
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and I think it's 100% correct. They were saying they're kind of
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exhausted by Star Wars doing all of this character development
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off screen, which is what they did with Luke and the sequels
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and. I agree.
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Especially with a character like this.
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We're starting in a place of contention so that they can then
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come back together in the second episode.
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What was the point? Not necessary plot wise, unless
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it comes in later. This, And I hate the artifice of
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conflict. They're already fighting.
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We don't know why, but they have tension and there's just going
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to be tension. I hate when tension is a plot
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device. That's annoying to me.
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Can we just let's press pause? Were Sabine and Asoka ever
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fighting? Not in rebels that I remember.
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Second, second question I'd like to ask, was Sabine ever Asoka's
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apprentice in any fucking way, shape or form, or is this brand
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new? I mean, I watched Rebels.
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I don't remember this. She was kind of like starting to
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train under Canaan. I remember this.
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I remember that. I do remember that.
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I don't remember her ever having the Force.
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No, I don't think she does. Yet I still don't think she
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does. I don't either.
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I don't. I don't think she does either.
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I think she is trying to be some sort of Jedi Mandalorian with
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Mandalorian power. Because even.
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I'm so disgusted. What is it?
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Who? Who?
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Who? Who?
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Ang, How does that? I don't know what the robot's
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name is, but David Tennant who? I love David Tennant.
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Love everything about this. I love everything about it.
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He tells her that she is the worst with the force of anyone
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who's ever seen. He's been around for like 23,000
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years or something. This is true, but it might be
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because she doesn't have the fucking force.
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Just because you wielded the dark Saber doesn't make you a
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Saber wielder. Exactly.
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The dark Saber is something altogether different anyway.
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Yeah, so if they're trying to connect the two, it's not
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working with me. Yeah, and I have.
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One more fucking. I have one more fucking
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complaint. Asoka was never knighted.
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Never. Yes.
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Oh my God, yes. I'm so sorry.
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I thought that was just me. No, I looked it up to make sure
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I didn't miss something, because the whole theme of this Asoka
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show is, is Leanne missing something?
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Because I feel like I've. Did I miss it?
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No, I didn't miss it. She was never knighted and to
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call her a former Jedi Knight is insulting.
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Yes, she left as a panel on. She was never knighted.
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She never did her trials. She.
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Took her fucking chain off and handed it to Anakin, thus
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nulling any. So can we fucking stop with
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former Jedi Knight? Like, I'm not trying to detract
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from a soca. She's more than capable, could
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have, and would have been knighted, but she never was.
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So can we just stop? I don't know why I'm so worked
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up. I I saw that I'm like, so this
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is the foot we're starting off of?
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Something incorrect. But that's why I find the whole
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like her training anybody kind of weird right?
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Cuz like she left as a student and so like her experiences is.
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As a Force wielder, not as a Jedi.
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So like, yeah, she was a great Jedi, but also she left the Jedi
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Order and said I'm no Jedi. Correct.
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So why are we all of a sudden referring to her as a Jedi?
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Look, I don't. Watching Sabine fight with that
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light siber did nothing for me. It pissed me off.
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Yeah, same. Honestly, the here's my
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complaint, OK? And people will send me death
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threats, but I don't care. I think the fighting looks like
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shit. I I think they're they're doing
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something called ramp speed. They're doing speed ramping.
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I I find that very cheap looking.
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So they film the action at like the actors are moving themselves
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at like 3/4 speed editing. They speed up and slow down
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where they want to make connection points so that they
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look more powerful. So instead of training at full
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speed, which is what like Ewan McGregor and Hayden did, and
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they were going so fast, they had to reduce the speed down to
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like a visible speed that tricks the eye.
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So you it looks normal to you to me when you film the physically
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slower instead of using a slower frame rate, right?
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So this is just like a nitpicky thing for me it it's visually
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cheap to me and I notice it a lot and it to me it looks like.
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You're covering up a bad performance and yeah, that is
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what it is. It's so that you can be like
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super accurate without having the power that comes behind it.
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I would rather have like what we saw with Ewan and Hayden, where
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the actors move it like full speed.
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They don't necessarily need ramp speed it.
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And if there's mistakes, that's more realistic.
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To me, that's more like how an impassioned fight would be.
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So yeah, I don't know. There was stuff that just kind
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of looked a little bit cheesy to me, but.
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See that you have the trained eye.
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I, I I am just observing and finding factual things and
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emotional things. Like, just I liked Sabine in
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Rebels, and I'm not liking her here because we're not following
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a timeline. You know, I'm not the biggest
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Rebels fan. I liked parts of it like you
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said. But I I guess I feel like I'm
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not. I don't have enough say here to
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say one way or another, but I liked that she somebody get
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these people a pair of scissors. But I liked the nod to Cane and
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when she cut her hair with a knife.
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I mean Ben, our patron. Ben said he wants to open a
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Barber shop on La Thal so people get stop cutting their hair with
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knives. I'm 100% with him.
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Get these people a trained professional, especially with a
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Pixie cut. As someone who used to have a
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Pixie cut girl, a knife is not it.
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It's not going to look that cute done with a knife?
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Nope. No.
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Sorry, but I I did like that that scene where Asoka shows up.
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Sabine's looking at the mural she turns.
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She goes off with the soaker. It was a direct carbon copy of
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the same scene in Rebels, so it was a nice nod.
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OK, but I'm having trouble following.
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Did this happen? This didn't happen.
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That's not right. Did this happen?
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Did they? Are they fighting?
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Who's fighting? Why?
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Why is there? It's like you said, you know,
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and I know we're not the only people that are watching this
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show. I've talked to two people, no
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correction, Three people who enjoyed a soca and love Sabine,
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and they have not seen Rebels at all.
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So they're doing something right.
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They're engaging an audience. You know they're giving as much
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to the Rebels audience in the Clone Wars audience as they can
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without completely leaving the others behind.
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So I'm trying to keep that in perspective because the three
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people I spoke to who have never seen Rebels loved the show.
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They said it's engaging, they're curious.
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It looks good. I mean, I'll give them that.
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It's they're having fun with it. They really are having fun.
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I'm curious to see how they're. I do not want this to be the
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Sabine Wren show. I want it to be the Asoka show.
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Yeah, I had the same thought. I want to see Asoka and like the
23:26
Rebels people can be peripheral, yes.
23:30
I don't want it to be a show about the Rebels characters.
23:33
They had the roadshow called rebels.
23:35
That's correct. But I mean, this is them after
23:41
the fact. It's nice to know that they made
23:43
it, you know, everybody's good. The Empire's gone, blah, blah.
23:45
Luke is out there. Leia's out there.
23:47
Don't forget. Yeah, OK, Like Luke Skywalker
23:51
exists in this timeline. I'll say this going back to the
23:54
Carillion. Business.
23:56
It was really nice to see Hara in her ship with Chopper.
23:59
And Chopper was, yes, as expected, on point.
24:03
I loved it. I loved Chopper.
24:06
He's throwing shit out like who touched my stuff?
24:08
Like, that's exactly what I want from that little bastard.
24:12
I know. I loved how you could tell he
24:13
was like, did you touch my stuff?
24:15
She's like, I didn't touch your stuff.
24:16
And he goes, yes, you did. Yeah, yeah.
24:19
Like and. Yeah, and he I guess he missed
24:24
by throwing one of those trackers before cuz she's here.
24:27
Don't miss this time. And so you know I just love the
24:30
relationship and I'm glad that it it came to life for the first
24:33
time in live action. And yes that was chopper we love
24:37
you. You can go wrong.
24:39
So who in that sequence? So asok is down on the docs
24:45
fighting. Who do you think?
24:47
That mystery? It's like an Inquisitor, but
24:49
with a Knight's helm. Yeah, I don't.
24:52
I don't have a fucking clue. I've seen some theories and
24:55
they're all plausible. I don't know.
24:57
I don't think it. I don't know.
24:59
Who do you think it is? Honestly, I physically thought
25:02
it looks like Ezra. Well, people are saying that.
25:05
People are saying this undercover.
25:08
Yeah. Also, I just really, I really
25:12
wish it was Sam Whitwer. I heard some people say that
25:16
though, yeah. I heard some people on Twitter
25:19
saying that it's a Sam Whitmer character.
25:22
In some fact, he looks a little thin for Sam Whitmer, but he
25:24
does, yeah. Not not so.
25:26
But you know, they can have a double.
25:28
Yeah, in the. That's correct, Mandalorian.
25:29
I mean, I would imagine it's gonna be a body double, cuz I've
25:31
even heard that like Pedro Pascal is not even on set
25:34
basically. They had a double for Luke that
25:38
didn't even look like Luke. So I mean, didn't even bother to
25:41
make him muscular. So no offense to them, the
25:44
actor, but I don't know. I don't know.
25:47
It was an 8 out of 10 for me, yeah.
25:50
And the and it would be a 10 out of 10 if it was paced a little
25:54
faster. Sabine wasn't.
25:56
So whatever they're doing with her, we didn't even talk about
26:01
this. We have another.
26:04
Stab wound survivor from a life Just gonna say this qui gun is
26:09
rolling in his urn because he was cremated.
26:13
Rest in fucking peace, Qui. Gone.
26:16
You're better than all of us, and you succumb to.
26:19
I guess you just have to lay down like my mom said.
26:22
I guess you just have to lay down and wait for a while and
26:24
then you'll be just fine in a little bit, yeah, yeah.
26:28
Even my mom knew that that wasn't She looked just fine.
26:34
Like, I don't know. Their healthcare hasn't become
26:38
more savvy since the Republic era.
26:42
Shit like well, and the Jedi Jedi healers that apparently
26:46
quite skilled, So what the hell. Man, I'm just tired of it.
26:49
It undermines characters like. Now you could say.
26:53
Okay, you could say. Well, it just missed the stomach
26:56
or the liver or the heart. No, no.
27:00
It's a cauterized motherfucking heat wound.
27:02
And no one would survive that shit.
27:04
Why? Because Quigon didn't.
27:06
And I don't want any other lesser motherfuckers living when
27:09
Quigon died. Yeah, because we had what was
27:12
her name? Riva in Kenobi.
27:15
Yes, Riva and. Now I can't.
27:18
I just. It would be more believable if
27:21
they slashed and it opened like a gaping wound that could be
27:26
healed. But a solid stab.
27:28
I mean, Anakin stabbed what's his name?
27:30
Withholding Satine, and he fell to the ground and never got up.
27:34
Remember that? Yeah.
27:36
Pierced them right through the back.
27:38
Yes, I don't know. It's cheap.
27:41
It's cheap. Just give her a cut on the leg
27:44
like Obi Wan and attack of the clones.
27:46
He gets hit in the arm and the leg and then he's out for the
27:49
rest of the fight. But Sabine Ren gets fucking
27:53
impaled and it's like, no big deal.
27:55
She's back in 48 hours. No big deal.
27:58
Yeah, she's fine. I just don't like it.
28:00
She's totally fine. Gets a haircut, goes on a space
28:02
adventure. That's it.
28:05
I would just be more believable if.
28:08
Shin had cut her shin Sabine like slice slice the leg open,
28:14
maim her so she can't run after you.
28:17
You leave, she gets, and nobody's undermining Quigon at
28:20
the same time. I know, I know.
28:24
There's other ways to take people down.
28:25
That's all I'm saying without undermining Quigon.
28:29
I'm sorry. I know.
28:31
I just. Every time it happens, I'm just
28:33
like, seriously, guys like Quigon dies, and not even right
28:38
away. He takes a while to die.
28:41
I mean, fucking mall got cut in half.
28:44
What are we even arguing about? Shit.
28:46
True. He gets thrown on a fucking
28:48
reactor shaft. So does the fucking Emperor.
28:51
And he's final. So.
28:53
So yeah, the only person who's really dead is Han Solo,
28:57
apparently. That's it.
28:58
That's it. I was just thinking Han God damn
29:01
it, yeah. So that's why I guess after
29:05
talking about it, I kind of want to knock it down to a 7 out of
29:08
10, but I'm cautiously optimistic, right?
29:14
Like it didn't. Blow to it's it's still fun.
29:17
It didn't blow my mind. We're not being haters, right?
29:20
No, no, no. I think there was plenty that
29:23
have my attention and I'm gonna wait and see how the rest of the
29:27
show plays out. And then for sure this is what
29:29
Faloney does, right? Season one of Clone Wars.
29:33
This is really, really boring. At least at least the first half
29:38
of it. It gets better the further into
29:39
the season you get season one of Avatar less Airbender.
29:44
It was cute but the not that much.
29:47
Season 2 is when it starts to get like oh wow I I can't stop
29:51
watching this. Same with Clone Wars.
29:52
So I'm I'm trying to be. I'm trying to remember that
29:57
watching this that he takes his time to get started once the
30:00
show has gotten its stride, because right now it's trying to
30:03
set up all the plot points. Yeah, they.
30:06
I don't envy his, his task of having to take a show with a a
30:11
very popular character and please everybody with it, yeah.
30:16
Rebels is beloved and so is a soca.
30:18
And we also have all of these Mandalorian people.
30:23
Looking for a new show to watch on Disney Plus that may not be
30:26
well versed in things that also have to enjoy the show?
30:29
It is not an easy task and I don't envy any of them.
30:33
Yeah, so that's why I thought this was enjoyable.
30:37
I liked it. Do I have gripes?
30:39
Yeah, as a Star Wars fan, you know, because we do.
30:43
We just always will. I think my biggest complaint is
30:48
that the pacing was really slow. Unlike and or where every scene
30:54
sets up the next scene, even if it's slow, it's still important.
30:57
You can't remove it without changing the plot.
31:00
I don't feel like that's the case here, and there was a lot
31:04
of watching people riding their speeders for way too long.
31:08
And also, there's a lot of moping in her space condo where
31:12
she's just sitting there staring at shit on her table, slowly
31:16
feeding her cat, feeling sorry for herself.
31:20
I really enjoyed the feeding of the cat.
31:22
I love it too. I love a good pet owner.
31:25
Damn, you know what? More of that.
31:28
I'm fine with that. More of that I didn't need to
31:31
see. We were watching a lot of people
31:34
think and watching a lot of slow conversations, and as an editor
31:39
I would have cut a lot of that down.
31:42
But like I said, I might not care by the end of the show
31:46
because it might be so good that I might enjoy that slow
31:49
beginning, you know, So that was I actually was like, God, is
31:54
this almost over, which to me is never a good sign.
31:56
I never have that unless I find something quite boring.
31:59
And I I was kind of like, this is getting long and I'm tired
32:04
and I want to go to bed. Right.
32:06
Well, I mean, two episodes in a row is a lot because you really
32:09
have to invest like 2 hours of your time.
32:12
Yeah, but after like the Obiwan show or after and or I couldn't
32:16
even sleep. I would like walk around my
32:18
living room because I was so overwhelmed by feelings.
32:21
But this I went right to sleep. So I'm on 3rd shift at the time
32:27
of this and I woke up, watched it, and then had to stay up till
32:30
6:00 AM. So God yeah I know it's not the
32:34
greatest. I think I went through this for
32:36
a lot of the Kenobi show as well because I would wake up to
32:39
people screaming at me yes. I had missed everything because
32:43
I was sleeping during the day and working at night.
32:45
But hey, I get by. Honestly though, what you're
32:48
doing is missing all the spoilers, so it's fine.
32:51
Minutes. I've muted like minutes after
32:53
the stuff was, it was all over Tumblr.
32:56
Everything was spoiled instantly.
32:58
So that's why I sat up and watched it, because I was like,
33:00
it's better to just see it before it gets ruined.
33:04
Because I don't want like if Anakin or sorry if Anakin or
33:08
Obione shows up. I don't want that spoiler.
33:10
I want the experience of seeing it, you know so.
33:14
I'm still waiting for it. I have the hope.
33:16
I have the hope, God damn it. Especially with Hayden speaking
33:20
as Anakin in the TV spot or the preview or whatever.
33:27
It's really ignited something in me of like, is this going to be
33:30
the episode? Are we going to get it at this
33:31
episode? Are we going to get?
33:32
Because I thought that during the Kenobi series and we didn't
33:35
get it, so I know. This is their other shot, I know
33:39
and I like I would please holy God above please.
33:44
I just want to see you and McGregor and Clone Wars armor,
33:47
please. That's it.
33:48
Just one. That's all.
33:50
I'm not asking too much. I just it's.
33:53
Hayden's hair is already long enough we could make this work,
33:57
folks. Like, come on.
34:01
Anyway, if it doesn't happen, I'll be fine.
34:03
Disappointed. But you know, I'm.
34:05
I'm holding out hope. I still want to see Thron.
34:07
I'm here for fucking Thron. I'm ready.
34:09
My body's ready. Everything's ready.
34:13
I'm ready. So I'm looking forward to the
34:15
next couple episodes. Yep.
34:18
Yeah, I'm excited. Because I think the best is it.
34:20
I think the best is in front of us.
34:22
I think the best is. Going to happen yet.
34:25
And so we just haven't gotten there.
34:26
We're in the. We're in like the Filoni setting
34:29
the stage phase. Yes, Yeah.
34:31
And I'm trying to have like no expectation because I I really
34:34
feel like part of the heartbreak of Kenobi was having, it was
34:38
impossible to not have expectations for that.
34:41
I was trying very hard not to. But with the soca, I really
34:44
don't. I don't.
34:45
The only thing I'm very worried about is Luke, because this was,
34:51
this was Luke's story. So that like, yes, that does
34:54
grind my gears a little bit, but I mean.
34:57
He could still show up in a little.
34:59
He really kind of should, because she's going to need more
35:02
than just Sabine's help to deal with Ron.
35:06
Sabine's not going to cut it first, Ron.
35:09
Nah. It doesn't surprise me that
35:12
Thron is fucking around with Night Sisters because.
35:16
He's the type that would study them and find them interesting
35:19
and intriguing and the more he learns the more he's opened up
35:22
to and he's using he's talking to what's the magistrate and
35:25
kind of you know, doing all this.
35:27
I I feel that's a very throng Ave. yeah, if you will.
35:32
And mother tells and is not necessarily gone.
35:35
They always say that she can like, that's right, like recede
35:38
into the ether and then come back and find a new body.
35:41
And so that would be kind of cool.
35:44
To see a mother, listen. I'm that might even exceed like
35:48
Clone Wars flashbacks. If I saw like a live action
35:51
mother talls in, I might lose my mind.
35:53
And not because you know I'm in love with the character or
35:55
anything, but like that would be crazy to see her outfit.
35:59
Her costume would be insane. They'd have to have that woman
36:02
do the voice still, because that voice is so special.
36:06
I know, It's so cool. Anyway, now we're now we're just
36:09
projecting wants and needs here, But.
36:12
I will take Clone Wars Anakin and or Clone Wars Obi Wan
36:15
flashbacks please and thank you. Yeah, it's important.
36:20
Anakin, Obi Wan and Asoka. It was a thing for all of us who
36:24
watched Clone Wars and we are getting Rex right at some.
36:27
Point we are, I'm hoping at the very least we better get some
36:31
fuck. She's going to need all of her
36:33
day ones, OK? And it's going to be Rex who we
36:37
know is around. Please.
36:41
Give us live action, Rex, please.
36:43
If nothing else, our question for our listeners.
36:53
How would you rate the first two episodes of Isoka out of 1 to
36:57
10, one being the worst, 10 being the best?
36:59
What number would you give it and why?
37:01
Tell us what you liked, what you didn't like.
37:03
Just spill your heart to us. Yes.
37:07
And next week, OK, we are going to do.
37:11
The flip of our previous episode, when we did the seven
37:14
Deadly Sins, we're now going to do the Seven virtues, and we're
37:17
going to pick one female character and one male character
37:20
for each of the virtues. And we won't tell each other.
37:24
And we'll do it in the same format as we did the seven
37:26
deadly Sins. We'll explain the virtue, and
37:28
then we'll explain why we chose the characters who we did.
37:31
And it's going to be fun. This list might be easier, it
37:35
might be, yeah. Or it might not be.
37:38
That's true. There's.
37:39
A lot to choose from. We might run into something
37:41
weird where like we did with the last one was sloth was weird, it
37:45
was hard. So yeah, yeah, like I said, it
37:48
just Obiwan's hair wins all the virtues.
37:50
So that's it. I mean we'll start there, that's
37:52
that's the, that's the implied. That's it.
37:56
So join us back here. We'll discuss the virtuous
37:59
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