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- 2:37and give you what you ask for. Tonight, we are honoring those who
- 2:40are living and surviving cancer, including non Hispanic and African American women in the
- 2:46US, who are more likely to be diagnosed than die of cancer compared to
- 2:52women who are not of color. This disparity is not due to genetic differences
- 2:57among whites, African Americans, or Hispanic women, but rather related to systematic
- 3:02racism, access to healthcare, and socionomic factors. My guest tonight is a
- 3:09cervical cancer survivor and she's here to talk about her journey. Please welcome my
- 3:15guests, Apostle, Tamala Lucas. Hey, I'm doing good. Oh wow,
- 3:27that's great. That's great. I'm glad that you came here tonight to
- 3:30share your journey. How are you doing now? You look great? Oh,
- 3:35thank you, I'm doing real good. I'm so happy. Beautiful lastly
- 3:43spoke. You mentioned that you had cervical cancer. What type of cervical cancer
- 3:49were you diagnosed with? M They just say cervical they I don't know.
- 3:57There's different types. Yeah, yeah, I heard that there were different types
- 4:00of cancer. How did you hear the news that you were diagnosed with cancer?
- 4:09In twenty sixteen. Everybody was getting on my nerves. They it's like
- 4:16if they said hi, it just agtivated me. And when they would have
- 4:23conversations with people, I was just I was real sharp, you know.
- 4:28They said, oh, you're so mean, You're so sharp, and me
- 4:30like, what's wrong? I was like, I don't know. And then
- 4:34I was at the church. We had a church meeting and they was talking.
- 4:39I said I have to get off of here, and they was like
- 4:42why. I said, cause I feel like punching everybody in their face.
- 4:44And it was like, oh, that's not you. I said no,
- 4:47I said, something's wrong, Something is really wrong. I was very ativated
- 4:53and mean and nasty, and so I went to my primary doctor. I
- 4:58asked them to check my blood. I said, check my blood, see
- 5:00what's going on. That was on a Monday. I didn't hear anything from
- 5:03them, so I called my gynecologists and she told me to come on a
- 5:09Wednesday. I won't in there on a Wednesday. She checked my blood.
- 5:13She told me to come back in the very next day. She said you
- 5:15have cancer. But at the time when she said, I didn't hear her.
- 5:21You know how you I just just block it off like I just didn't
- 5:27hear it. You know. All I heard was you would have to get
- 5:30surgery as soon as possible so we can cut this out and it won't spread.
- 5:38So I ended up having my surgery two months later, February first of
- 5:43twenty seventeen. I had a hysterectomy. So when you went in to your
- 5:49gyn and she took them, she took blood and did your examination as well.
- 5:55She called you to tell you to come in, and she told you
- 5:57over the phone that you had cancer. She called me to come in the
- 6:00next day so she can look me dead in my face to tell me yes.
- 6:08She didn't tell me anything on the over the phone. She told me
- 6:11to come back in and she said we have to do surgery as soon as
- 6:15possible. So with her telling you to come back in, what were you
- 6:21what were you feeling at that time? Did you send something was wrong by
- 6:26the way she spoke to you, or was you just feeling like, Wow,
- 6:29something is really wrong. I knew something was wrong. I didn't know
- 6:32what was wrong. And I was like, oh lord, I hope I'm
- 6:36not HIV positive. You know, you know, you know, you'd been
- 6:42thinking stuff like that on top of your head, you know, stuff like
- 6:46that. But she said you had to get surgery as soon as possible.
- 6:48And she said what day you want to have the surgery because we got a
- 6:53hair because it's spreading, it's spreading, and it's spreading fast. And I
- 6:58was like, and people, it was like, why are you gonna have
- 7:00surgery? I'm like, I don't know because I didn't hear everything. I
- 7:04think I was just in a daze or gone or whatever. I just all
- 7:10I heard was surgery, surgery, and I have to have it as soon
- 7:13as possible. Were you in any pain at that time? Were you feeling
- 7:18any pain? Were you were you noiseious or anything? I never had pain.
- 7:24I was just aggravated. I had I was aggravating, like everybody got
- 7:28my last nerve. I was so aggravated and I couldn't figure out why I
- 7:33was so aggravated and my husband's like, what is wrong with you? Like,
- 7:36we can't even have a conversation with you where you're going off. I
- 7:41was just so aggravated. Wow, at that time, were you even thinking,
- 7:46you know, because you're a woman, and you know a lot of
- 7:49times people are going through mental pause and they're aggravated and everything under the sun
- 7:55just works on their nerve where sometimes some people want to put somebody in the
- 7:59face, you know, So were you even thinking that that's what you was
- 8:01going through? Yeah? I said, maybe it's a bad case of menopause
- 8:07because I was already in peri menopause after I had my daughter, because I
- 8:11had got my toolstad mm hmm. Wow. Wow, that's that's a blown
- 8:18to to, you know, to have her tell you to come in.
- 8:22So there was no other treatment choice but to have the surgery. Yeah,
- 8:28because it was growing rapidly. It was growing up. Dad, So your
- 8:33primary doctor didn't pick up on that prior to any of that from examinations from
- 8:37before. My primary doctor didn't say anything. And I called after she told
- 8:43me that on Thursday. I called him on Friday. I said, the
- 8:46sad part is I went to you all first to check my blood and you
- 8:50haven't said anything to me. You have not called me like, what is
- 8:54the problem. This is one of the things that I'm talking about, how
- 9:01you African American women and women of color, they're going to these doctors and
- 9:05they're not giving them the health care that they need and the treatments that they
- 9:11need. You had to reach out to your g y N just to find
- 9:16out. Now, just say you had previously had a g y N appointment
- 9:20maybe two months ago, and you figure everything was you know, okay,
- 9:22you know, just to say that lady feeling well at the work and they
- 9:30just you know, just do blood work. But if you had went to
- 9:35your t y N. I am so grateful for you having sense enough to
- 9:39call you because something some place, that's what I wanted to connect from.
- 9:48And then you just out of the group decided to call your g y N.
- 9:52Was this something going through your mind where you figured, well, I
- 9:54went and took blood. But why any other doctors decided to maybe you know,
- 10:01for headaches to you look at you or maybe your pressure and it's like
- 10:07something tapped you on the shoulder and told you go see your g y N.
- 10:15Yeah, And that's why a lot of women are losing their lives because
- 10:18you go to a primary doctor and you they checking your blood and they're not
- 10:24saying anything like what's the problem. And I went to them first, they
- 10:28didn't and even a whole week passed, they didn't say anything to me,
- 10:33and I was shocked, like and I called him and I told him,
- 10:37I said, I just went to her and she checked my blood and she
- 10:41told me the very next day what was wrong with me? I said,
- 10:43y'all haven't seen anything or and well were still checking what what? So it
- 10:50was horrible. Well, so since the history hysterectomy are the things that you
- 10:56can't do that you were doing before, like this and exercises or other treatments
- 11:01that you have to take following that. Well, the issue with with my
- 11:09gone to college. This is what she said. Now all I know is
- 11:13afterwards, my legs start swelling up, and they ran all different kinds of
- 11:18tests and they said it's not connected. They said it's not connected. But
- 11:26other people I asked who had hysterected me. I asked them, have your
- 11:31legs start swelling up and they said yes. I said, did it swell
- 11:33up after your heads? Directly? They said yes, And I have got
- 11:39all different tests. Ran they kept on saying it might be this, it
- 11:41might be that. No one knows what it was, and I had to
- 11:46wait two years later to find out. It's called a edema in lythothema,
- 11:50adema and lithothema is when your legs swell up. It is like a ballooon,
- 11:56just you know, blow your legs up. So I keep my legs
- 12:01elevated a lot. I still try to go to work as a teacher,
- 12:07but I retired because twenty nineteen the kids were so bad. I just had
- 12:13it. I couldn't do no more. Yeah, well, you know,
- 12:16you have to take care of yourself. You definitely have to take care of
- 12:20yourself. But did they even try homown therapy, herbal treatment or anything.
- 12:26Was that ever suggested to you? After my hysterectomy? There was like you
- 12:31should be fine, but yeah they nothing else? Nothing nothing else? Wow,
- 12:41So since the hysterectomy and everything, is there any chance of a recurrence
- 12:48or spreading any further? Did they say that they got everything according to my
- 12:54kind of coologies? She said that I should be fine because she the way
- 13:00she cut everything out. She said she cut she she constructed the inside where
- 13:07if anything happened, it won't spread to no parts of my body. That's
- 13:11what she said. But even in that, I still have I still get
- 13:16my blood tested for any other things because I am a cancer survivor anything else.
- 13:22Other things can jump off because once it's you know, sometimes it's in
- 13:26your blood system, and so I just get checked. They always make sure
- 13:31I get check, So I still get checked for everything. I'm glad that
- 13:35you do. I'm so glad that you do. Did you get in check
- 13:39for everything? I'm just so sorry to hear any of that that that you're
- 13:45going through. You know, learning you have cancer can be overwhelming to something
- 13:48suffered depression or distressed. Were you stressed or did you fall into depression?
- 13:54You know what? Because I didn't tell anybody what the doctor said, I
- 14:00just told them my head I was getting surgery, and because I think I
- 14:05was still in a state of shock, I just didn't tell anybody the journey.
- 14:11I waited a whole year. A whole year passed, and when I
- 14:15looked at my health breakers and I look and it said cancer and his directing
- 14:22me and all that stuff, That's when I started telling people I'm a cancer
- 14:26survivor. So through the whole journey, not even my husband, not even
- 14:31my children, nobody knew. They just knew surgery because I ain't tell nobody
- 14:37because I've watched how people go to things, and i watch how people want
- 14:43to put the little two cents in and make things worse, and I said,
- 14:46I'm not going through that. I'm not going to have people make me
- 14:50feel worse about you know, already going through this. And it was after
- 14:54the hiss direct me. That was a painful journey. Even though a lot
- 14:56of people who have had history to me, they got up within three months
- 15:01and it was, you know, okay. It took me a long time
- 15:05to bounce back as I was teaching, and I stay home for two months
- 15:13February and March. Went back to work in April. I told my principal
- 15:18said I'm not able to stand because it's you know, I'm just too painful.
- 15:22So he allowed me to work, but I had my little chair.
- 15:28I just roll around the room in the classroom. That's how I talked until
- 15:33school was out. So do you do you miss teaching at schools? I
- 15:39loved teaching, but because of all the stuff that's going on, I can't
- 15:45do it. What about virtual Have you thought about doing anything virtual? Or
- 15:50you just burocracy all that stuff, because right now they really don't want you
- 15:54to teach children. They want you to teach them how to pass the test.
- 16:00And I my belief is you should teach children that ABC's and one two
- 16:06threes first so they can learn how to get to the next level. Why
- 16:10teach them the test because passing the test is not helping them if they don't
- 16:15know the basis. You don't know the foundations, right I absolutely rightful.
- 16:22Are you on any medications right now? Are you you know, do you
- 16:26have to take medications? Or she said that you're just so fine that you
- 16:30don't need to take any medications. I just take I just take my vitamin
- 16:34D three, all my counsel and courteous, you know, keep my bones
- 16:41up. Because God allowed me to meet this one guy. He had surgery.
- 16:45He said he was about six hundred pounds and he was like one hundred
- 16:49pounds when I met him. And he said one thing about major surgery.
- 16:53Then I'm gonna tell you're gonna lose bone this. See, your bones gonna
- 16:59get weak, and so you need to build that back up and strengthen your
- 17:03bones. And I said, okay, so I just keep a lot of
- 17:07count see them, and vitamin D three and all that stuff, try to
- 17:11keep my bones strong. Did that change your appetite any you know, did
- 17:17when you're craving other things or you just didn't have a taste for food,
- 17:21you know certain types of food. Did your things change where you just didn't
- 17:23want to eat certain things? No, nothing changed. I was truly blessed
- 17:30because I they say I called it early. Some people, you know,
- 17:33they go through stages one, stage two, stage three, or death,
- 17:37and just knowing your body, I just knew something was wrong. So a
- 17:44lot of people said I called it early, and I just thank god I
- 17:48called it early. I just knew that something was wrong. And sometimes we
- 17:52think something is wrong, we just keep on going. And but we need
- 17:56to pay attention to our body, because our body is always talking to us
- 18:00and telling us something's wrong. Yeah, you're so right. I am so
- 18:04glad that you're doing so much better and that you was able to catch this.
- 18:08We're gonna continue this conversation. We're gonna take a commercial break right now,
- 18:12and then we're gonna come back with Apostle Tamila Lucas and continue this journey.
- 18:37Turn off the lights tonight. I'm gonna I'm made. Let's take a
- 18:57shower, show it together. I'll watch your buddet. You was some my
- 19:15wealth day and same ja. Turn off girl. I wanted to hear of
- 19:38you a special tweet. You're so sweet. Turn on. We are back.
- 19:56We are back, We are back, and we're here talking with a
- 19:59pop Tim Lucas and she's taken us on her journey with the surviving cancer as
- 20:06many women have, and I'm just so grateful to have you here. It's
- 20:11just a blessing that you're here. As with any cancer, when it comes
- 20:15to cervical cancer, early detection is key if it's found earth. To detect
- 20:26cancer is important to be aware of the earliest signs of what you mentioned.
- 20:29What you sign was to everybody. It is different how they feel what they're
- 20:36going through. Somebody else that may know that it's going through that to do
- 20:41is this something that's in your family? Is there other forms of cancer?
- 20:45Is there? Did they even ask that question? Was the other forms of
- 20:49Especially when he took your blood work, I don't know what he was thinking,
- 20:53just doing blood work and calling of the day. But you know,
- 20:56all those questions should have come up during that time, and then he goes
- 21:00up to something else. Is that something that's in your family? You know,
- 21:07cancer does not run in my family. So and it's weird because I
- 21:14was like the first one who got it, and then like and I got
- 21:21this in twenty seventeen, and then twenty twenty one, that's when my aunt
- 21:26end up with breast cancer. And she's older than me, She's fifteen years
- 21:30older than me. And I was like, I guess I was the trailblazer.
- 21:36It's weird, like we it happened like later in our in our life,
- 21:41Like, what's going on? Is crazy? And I told her,
- 21:45I said, I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna tell you how to survive
- 21:48this. Don't tell a lot of people you need to travel. You need
- 21:52to travel, have fun and enjoy life and laugh at everything. Find you
- 21:57some comedies, fun things to do, and you're gonna have to laugh this
- 22:03through and be happy through it because if you dwell on it, that's what's
- 22:08going to take you out. And she did. She was working at the
- 22:14hospital and she had retired to retire, and she started traveling everywhere and when
- 22:19she came back, she just had to get a little little surgery. It
- 22:26didn't spread, and I thank God for that. And she did what I
- 22:30told her, and she had her little surgery and then she rung her bell.
- 22:37So she is a cancer survivor. But I told her, I said,
- 22:41that's how you. I said, I didn't tell anybody. I said,
- 22:45you didn't know I had it, I said, I said, when
- 22:47you go through, you can't tear up people because people I don't know.
- 22:52I guess sometimes people think they're helping when they talking, but sometimes you just
- 22:56don't want me to hear anybody's voice. Just be, you know. And
- 23:00so I just went through it, and I was just praying my way through,
- 23:04and I just thank God. I was truly blessed because my hair did
- 23:08not fall out. All my hair stay and I just thank God. So
- 23:15it didn't look like I was going through anything, so that nobody would have
- 23:18ever known unless you told them. Right. Well, for young women and
- 23:25women of all ages who are listening, once should they begin screening for cervical
- 23:30cancer? I hear it's usually around twenty one years of age. But I
- 23:33also hear when they start having sex that they should start screening us. Yeah,
- 23:38because the sad part is a lot of people don't want to talk about
- 23:45this. But I've been on another playfor and I talked about this before.
- 23:48When I was married to my first husband, I kept a STD. Okay,
- 23:53I was always in the doctor's taking medicine, getting shot. And what
- 24:00people fail to realize is when you get an STD, it kills your healthy
- 24:06blood cells, and too many healthy blood cells will turn to cancer. And
- 24:12and so we tell these children all the time, wrap it up, you
- 24:17know now here. I am supposed to be trusted my husband at the time,
- 24:22so I was always at the doctor's office. And what people fail to
- 24:26realize, too many dead blood cells, It's just gonna keep on collected and
- 24:34then it's gonna turn into cancer. So we gotta be careful to just keep
- 24:41those doctors appointments. But access to healthcare and establishing establishing trust is essential to
- 24:47help reduce the cervical cancer mortality. Way for black feel healthcare is being I
- 24:57think what health care is a lot of people say, well, I don't
- 25:03have any money, I can't afford healthcare, but go to a clinic,
- 25:06because a clinic will go by your income, and some clinics. They won't
- 25:10even charge you if you just go to a clinic. And I don't think
- 25:12people understand clinics are free. You might have to wait two or three months
- 25:18to get in there, but they are free if you don't have the income,
- 25:22So go for everything a clinic. You can get your te fixed or
- 25:26check up all that. They do all that for you. So just go
- 25:30to a clinic if you can't afford it. And also if you're working and
- 25:36you can't afford insurance. What people don't understand hospital has financial aid and people
- 25:42say what financial ads say? Yeah, when they send you that bill on
- 25:48the back they said, do you need financial assistance? Fill it out?
- 25:52People be shocked, like I could feel that out. You can fill it
- 25:56out. If you're working, feel it out. They're gonna ask you how
- 25:59much you make, and then they're gonna see they will either reduce your hospital
- 26:04bill or they'll pay for it. Well, you know, some people are
- 26:08afraid to go to doctors. But because some of them are afraid to get
- 26:12that type of news. And then you have some who just really weren't taught
- 26:18healthcare, how to take care of their own health and knowing that they have
- 26:22to see their doctor year lead and you know, do certain visits. But
- 26:26then you have those that will apply for some benefits, but they don't get
- 26:30the benefits. They may applied for certain aid and for whatever reason, certain
- 26:34parts of the government may tell them that they're not comfortable and that becomes a
- 26:40problem. So I understand that our free clinics, but they sometimes people go
- 26:45to spep clinic and they're not offering them what they would be offering them if
- 26:48they had the money to pay for. So they be on that part that
- 26:53we got money because back of the day, that's all we heard about was
- 26:56the free clinic, the free clinic. But me also knowing that those free
- 27:00clinics they were using some people anything, people were afraid of that, especially
- 27:06African Americans, they were afraid to go to the free clinic. Now living
- 27:10in a state where there was a lot of issues with the free clinic,
- 27:14and I ain't gonna say to being mad. People will figure out what places
- 27:17I'm talking about, But that happens. People are afraid to go. And
- 27:22you remember how they was doing all the other testing and whatnot way back when
- 27:27people don't free you know, they're not educating education. Just say so was
- 27:37educating people that people knew what was going on. People knew that they were
- 27:41the African Americans, or for now money to come in and they're still doing
- 27:49it nowadays, or for no money. So they could come in to test
- 27:53them for this, and the test them for that and running this and running
- 27:56that, but they're running a chance of coming down. That's the number of
- 28:03things that hasn't been approved. So that becomes an issue. So people,
- 28:10you know, I do understand and I appreciate people saying free clinics, but
- 28:14I think that they really need to look at these so called free clinics to
- 28:18see what the whole also working bad. But you know, for some people
- 28:26in an other words, feel more treated like no so off for treatment or
- 28:33told to come back. Many people are not lack meaning and discus menalism has
- 28:42been imnified contributing factors. How what all women, especially cervical answers about their
- 28:53healthcare provided that is an issue they don't follow. Well, they get that
- 29:00clean bill of health for that movement, but they don't come back. Why
- 29:07do you think they don't crowd all this clinic? Well, I always try
- 29:17to encourage them, because even hospitals have clinics if they don't want to go
- 29:22to the free clinic. Hospitals have clinics. I don't think people know that,
- 29:27but hospitals they have clinics and they do go buy your income, and
- 29:33so don't be afraid to go see the doctor if it comes to finances.
- 29:37Don't be afraid to see the doctor. I know we watch movies and it
- 29:41said, oh, we're not going to see them because they don't have any
- 29:44insurance. But they do have clinics, and they will go by your income,
- 29:48and they will they have financial assistance, and yes, I did.
- 29:52I have heard of people saying, well, you know, I was okay,
- 29:56you know in two thousand and here it is twoenty twenty. I'm not
- 30:00going back. But you have to get checked every year because your body is
- 30:07always changing. You don't know what's going on in there, so get a
- 30:11check up. What resources are these women? Do you think that they're hit
- 30:18in this information and that there are some programs that are designed to cater to
- 30:22our needs, but we don't know about them. They have women's clinic if
- 30:29you don't. If you like, just like they got the mammogram vans,
- 30:33they have women clinics if you don't want to, you know, be in
- 30:38certain areas. You have to do your research and you have to really care
- 30:42about yourself and say, look, I have to take care of myself.
- 30:48And don't be afraid to take care of yourself. Because one thing about women,
- 30:52we don't mind taking care of the whole world. We'll take care of
- 30:55the whole world and we'll put ourselves last. But guess what if you're God,
- 30:59Who're gonna take care of everybody, they gonna keep on living and you're
- 31:02gone. So you have to take care of yourself and make sure you take
- 31:07time out. And just because you was okay in two thousand, that's different.
- 31:14Get a check up and it's something you just go in there. It's
- 31:18real simptoms. Get a check up, and learn how to love yourself.
- 31:25And I was telling somebody this yesterday, because she's gonna do cancer. I
- 31:29said, get you a massage, honey, get your nails done, your
- 31:33toes done, take care of yourself, do some self care. Get away
- 31:37from everybody. Sometimes we don't understand it. I don't think we understand that
- 31:42we're supposed to take care ofself. Learn how to get away from everybody and
- 31:48sow your brain and breathe. I don't think we understand our brain is supposed
- 31:52to breathe, just breed. Well, we don't have to hear anybody.
- 31:56We can eat our food. We don't have to hear anybody. So can
- 31:57I have some? You know? We need we need that, we need
- 32:04that, and I don't think we understand that. I know one thing,
- 32:07I must have looked horrible because this lady walk up to me and she said,
- 32:09honey, you need to take care of yourself. She said, you
- 32:14take care of everybody, take care of the hus me, take care of
- 32:15you. And I said, dad, I must love hard. But she
- 32:19told me to take care of myself. But I'm mad she said that because
- 32:22that's what I've been doing. I have days I just go to the restaurant,
- 32:28sit by myself and enjoy my food. I have to worry about anybody
- 32:31asking can I have some of my food? You know, I'm just enjoying
- 32:37me. So we got to learn how to take care of ourselves. Well.
- 32:40Self care is the best care, you know, so you just definitely
- 32:45can't beat that. At Or you had mentioned something early when you was talking
- 32:49about teaching, and you were saying how they was telling you to teach them
- 32:52to pass the test, and that's one of the things they don't teach in
- 32:57school, and that's hygiene and self care and taking care of yourself the charge
- 33:01away from that. How important do you think that we need to bring it
- 33:05back because these kids are doing things that are a little different than the way
- 33:09they were doing them when I was coming on. So how do you think
- 33:13that would be to bring that back into the schools. Well, do you
- 33:15think that the experience would be accepting that the said port It depends what school
- 33:23district you are in, because some school district they still talk about self care
- 33:30and how to take care of yourself, and then some schools talk about uh,
- 33:34sex education and a lot of parents go off, we shouldn't be talking
- 33:37about this. But my children will learn about sex education at the age of
- 33:42three because I had two deaf children and they went to a deaf school,
- 33:46so they had to learn that there was no work cookie, No. They
- 33:52had to learn the appropriate words because just in case somebody touched them. We
- 33:57didn't want to hear somebody touch my cookie. No, somebody touched my vagina,
- 34:01somebody touched my penis, So we have to teach the children appropriate words.
- 34:07At the right time. People say when it's the right time when they
- 34:12five. Why Because when I was teaching first grade and they put the second
- 34:17grade class in my room, one of my second graders, I was telling
- 34:21her to stay away from strangers. I was telling the whole class stay away
- 34:23from strangers. And she was talking about how somebody raped her so and she
- 34:29was telling everything. A second grader, This baby six years old, So
- 34:34we have to talk about that. We had to talk about this even though
- 34:38we don't want to. Oh my goodness, they too young. Guess what,
- 34:43these children are seeing more things than they ever seen before. When we
- 34:49was growing up, you know, we you know, our parents, you
- 34:52know, hit us from a lot of things. But now ask some of
- 34:55these teachers. These children are in kindergarten, first, second, third grade,
- 35:00they talking about sex. Well, you know a lot of the both
- 35:04teachers are mandated reporters, and unfortunately some of them don't want to get involved.
- 35:10Some of them are the purpet trade thing because they're the perfect is themselves.
- 35:17I'm not saying all teachers are like this, because you have different walks
- 35:22of life where people are perpetrators in different walks of lives. But right now,
- 35:25we're talking about teachers. I can talk about other subjects where they are
- 35:29as well. But people, you know, some teachers are perpetrators, and
- 35:35you have them that don't know how to talk to these children. You know
- 35:38they should be when they're doing those developmental days that professional development days. What
- 35:45are they actually doing professional development days for? Are they just getting their materials
- 35:49together? Because I've worked in a school system too, you know, at
- 35:53some point in time in my life and our professional development days, was actually
- 35:58a professionalist about they come in, they're supposed to be getting tales and stuff
- 36:06together, but what trainings are coming into the school. Because the states are
- 36:10spending a lot of money on these school systems, but a lot of these
- 36:14children are walking out without the knowledge of a lot of the things we're thinking
- 36:17that they're getting, and I think they need to bring that back into the
- 36:21school. Okay, they got sex education, but what are they really talking
- 36:24about in there? You know, these children are way beyond the birds and
- 36:29the bees now they are waits. Some of these kids can teach us some
- 36:31stuff. You know, the language that they speak and I'm not talking about
- 36:35the bad language. I'm talking about they know about things and they say things
- 36:38that can be surprising, but it can be alarming. But I do think
- 36:43that they need to bring this in there and the parents, you know,
- 36:46go to the school meeting so you would know and you can have some input
- 36:51as far as what you would like for your children to learn, because a
- 36:53lot of children they don't want to hear from their parents. You know,
- 36:57we can tell them to be good all day and to do this and do
- 37:00that, they don't want to hear from us. They don't hear it from
- 37:02their friends' parents. Fasten their hair for uths. But if you go to
- 37:06these schools and you start there, because they're all gathered there, these children,
- 37:09they're all in one room and that's a place where they can talk.
- 37:13So I think they should allow that because a lot of things, like you
- 37:15said, with the little six year old, it came out. She says
- 37:20that she was touched inappropriately, so that came out. She was put in
- 37:23a class with other students, had she not been put in there, and
- 37:27she was just in her regular class. What she has said anything, I
- 37:30don't know. But what she has said anything, So you know, we
- 37:35have to come at it at all different angles. When we're talking about cancer,
- 37:40HIV, when we're talking about sexually transmitted infections. When we're talking about
- 37:45any of that, it's very very important for us to start talking about it
- 37:51and not shy away from it because it's not taboo anymore. It's not taboo
- 37:55to talk about it anymore. You can talk about all the gossip that's going
- 38:00going on on TV and things that's happening on your block and the stuff on
- 38:04the news. Why not talk about this? Why not talk about it?
- 38:12How easy is it a possible to talk to these kids in school? You
- 38:16gotta have a relationship with the children. And when I was teaching fourth or
- 38:20fifth graders, they was talking and then they would ask me questions. And
- 38:25you have to know your students. You have to know which one is going
- 38:30to report you, because you know you can get fired. You can't you
- 38:35can get The school system has to be on one occoord You can't be teaching
- 38:40one thing in District one and District two is miles ahead teaching something. Not
- 38:45because those kids from District one in District two, they get together, they
- 38:50speak, they see each other, you know, so it should it should
- 38:52be all the way around. It shouldn't be a difference in the way you're
- 38:55teaching because they're going to grow up, they're gonna get older, they're gonna
- 38:59start going to school together. Then they're gonna branch out, and then they'll
- 39:01come back together when they going to college together. So you have to be
- 39:05on one accord when you're teaching these children anything you really have to. And
- 39:09then they grow up with a sense of self care and taking care of themselves
- 39:14and appreciating theirself and appreciating their body. So I think I'm not gonna say,
- 39:20oh, it starts at home. You know, I'm one that you
- 39:22know it takes. It does take a village, But you got people really
- 39:28have to watch a village people too, because you know, you don't you
- 39:31don't know who to trust anymore. You know, tell your children and the
- 39:36coach in this class, or or the the secretary over here, the school,
- 39:42or you know whoever, then the school. You know about self care,
- 39:53have those sessions instead of just reprimanding them for breaking perfect talk to them
- 40:04time with them that it's about argument with your teenager, it's about waiting they
- 40:10dressing. I know those could be issues, and I know some people may
- 40:14say a lot of these, yeah, a lot of these. A lot
- 40:22of parents are not talking to their children because a lot of them are not
- 40:25at home. They work so much. Because I always ask the children,
- 40:31you know, or your parents gonna be home? You get home? You
- 40:34know, my my parents working first and second shift, and I'm like Lord
- 40:37Jesus because they're trying to keep the roof over their heads. So a lot
- 40:43of times these children are going home and there's no one there but their siblings.
- 40:47Well, I'm not because they got to pay those kids benefits. They
- 40:52got to pay for that so their children can be well. So you know,
- 40:55it's we can go on and on and on, and I'm not blaming
- 41:00anybody. I'm just saying is that certain systems are broken. I think that
- 41:05healthcare should be free for everyone because it affects everyone. If you don't have
- 41:09health care, how is your employees going to continue to work when they're not
- 41:14well. You can have a ration to look at the epidemic we've just been
- 41:16through. It was given out the shots. Had they not given out those
- 41:21shots for free, how many the way if they hadn't, you could just
- 41:29imagine. You can just imagine it. So, like I said, a
- 41:31possible, I can sit here and talk to you all night, but I
- 41:34do want to ask you. I see that you're also an author, and
- 41:37you're a singer and your pastor. Tell me about your book. Okay,
- 41:44my first book that I published, that's called Poppy You Are Love, and
- 41:50I published that in twenty fifteen. It's about my mother. Somebody said,
- 41:54why don't you write a book about your mother since she's no longer here?
- 41:59And I didn't know that was going to be a domestic violence book. And
- 42:01then I my son said, Mom, you got a lot of books,
- 42:09and you start writing other books. I said, what. So I ended
- 42:13up getting into a lot of collaborations with other authors and just praise God to
- 42:20just meet everybody from all over the world. Then I start, I think.
- 42:25I published my first children's book in twenty nineteen, and then my second
- 42:31one twenty nineteen. Then I did a Bible book called The Guy Head in
- 42:39twenty twenty, and then in twenty twenty one, I did another book and
- 42:49that I started that but it didn't get finished in twenty twenty two, and
- 42:52that's called Amazing Workbook, Study Workbook, Study, Bible Workbook. And I'm
- 43:00telling you, we have a reference book that on it's finished. It's just
- 43:06not out yet because I'm trying to get the format together. But I have
- 43:12different various books out, different collaborations with different people, and I just praised
- 43:19God for the different collaborations because the first collaboration I didn't even know how that
- 43:24was going to work. That was with Vranessa, doctor Bressa Blackwell, and
- 43:30we end up being the number one international, number one international bestseller authors.
- 43:37And I was shocked. What So I was trying to encourage other people,
- 43:44you know, do collaborations, and you know, it's hard to get people
- 43:47to do think something different because of the unknown. And then Angela came along
- 43:54and I met her and then we started doing collaborations. So I'm telling you,
- 44:00uh, she got some number one uh best books out to and I'm
- 44:06telling you, just learn how to just get along with folks and working together.
- 44:13I'm telling you it's a beautiful thing. You seem to be keeping yourself
- 44:17busy. I want to address this question here. Most of the babies will
- 44:21statement, most of the babies are left to raise themselves. And yes,
- 44:23Latanya, yes, a lot of children. It's not I don't think it's
- 44:25because the parents want to, but I think that they feel as though they
- 44:30have no other choice. But they they have to remember the law that you
- 44:34cannot leave children under a certain age in the house by themselves without supervision.
- 44:39I don't know what states things they are in, but every state, as
- 44:43a daughter, I can not leave children in the home without So just say
- 44:50in your state that the law is that they can't leave under the age.
- 44:57You want to have to figure something out otherwise. So I can't tell you
- 45:05you go to or what to do in those states to people. And I
- 45:09know people don't trust people, but just now your child is left alone,
- 45:13somebody else know not not to open that door. It only takes a hard
- 45:22kick the break in the door, right, Think about all other things that
- 45:25can possibly happen as well. And again, nobody's saying you're a bad parent,
- 45:30but we're just saying is that you just got to be mindful when you
- 45:32make the decision to make your challenge. There's a woman here in Ohio who's
- 45:40going to prison for six years because she left her children who were under ten,
- 45:46in the house and while she was at work, the house burnt,
- 45:50caught on fire, and they died. So she's going to prison for six
- 45:53years and she's already suffering, you know, you know I don't know what
- 45:58the circumstances were, but pray for her and her family. You know,
- 46:02Apostle, and it's been wonderful talking to you. Thank you for sharing your
- 46:08journey and being so open. I believe me your testimony tonight will give insight
- 46:13into early detection and treatment. There are usually no signs or symptoms of early
- 46:17cervical cancer, but it can be detected early with regular checkups. Checkups should
- 46:23include tests such as PAP tests you know they call them Papsman's PAP tests,
- 46:29and or the HPV tests. The PAP test checks for pre cancero's changes in
- 46:35the cervix. The HPV test looks for high risk types of human papalomavirus infections.
- 46:42Now, the HPV is not just for women. Well girls, you
- 46:45can have your little boys do to HPV too, because it's more likely to
- 46:51cause pre cancer certain cervical cancer, but it's also pre cancer. Regular screeners
- 46:55can find pre cancer or early cervical cancer. What it is easier to treat.
- 47:00Cervical cancer can be treated by getting vaccinated, so you have to get
- 47:04the boys vaccinated as well. Now, I understand we're talking about surgical cancer
- 47:07tonight, but we're also talking about getting vaccinated against HPV virus from age nine
- 47:14to twenty six. The vaccine is effective if administrated before turning sexually active.
- 47:22So the little boys are sexually active as well as the little girls, so
- 47:25it's better and it's safer for them to get the HPV vaccination. Speak to
- 47:30your pediatrician about sun getting the HPV. Do you have an idea suggestion for
- 47:40a guest to be interviewed? Are they curious about a certain topic and its
- 47:45effects on it everyday life? To get in touch, drop us a line
- 47:49in a comment section, or send us a message at Basic Black Essentials at
- 47:53gmail dot com. Join us. On Friday, October Twentiethi is here and
- 48:00we're talking with author B. W. Jeffrey after eight after doc, thanks
- 48:07so much. I appreciate you coming. This has been something that's been awesome.
- 48:13And it's October and I'm loving not Toober because it's my birthday month,
- 48:19but it's also cancel happy birthday. Thank you, thank you. That's what
- 48:24in two days I have to remind myself some two days. But again,
- 48:30just everybody, just be aware, Just be aware of yourself and your loved
- 48:37ones and go get tested go get tested. I usually have my appointment on
- 48:43my birthday every year, but I couldn't schedule it this year, but I
- 48:45have one coming up. I do have a doctor's appointment, but it's for
- 48:46something else. But I usually make that my gift to myself, and that's
- 48:52to get that exam to breast exam and you know, just for my g
- 48:54y n appointment, because that's my present to myself every year. So when
- 48:58they say do you have plans, let's say, yea, I have a
- 49:00plan. I'm gifting myself and that's what I do, so I think other
- 49:02people that's how you can remember those appointments. Do it on your birthday.
- 49:07You know, you got the whole day to celebrate, dude on your birthday.
- 49:10This way you can celebrate again the next year because you did that.
- 49:14So that's why I do it. For me. I do it on my
- 49:15birthday every year, so this way I know what time of the year it
- 49:20is and what I'm going for. So again, Apostle, and you didn't
- 49:23tell me about the song though, Oh I'm sorry. My song is called
- 49:29When I was nothing, God Loved Me. So there's a single out and
- 49:34I have other songs. I'm just waiting for God to allow me to reveal.
- 49:40Well, I'm gonna be listening and looking out for that, and I'm
- 49:43gonna have you back because we're gonna talk about this song and we're gonna talk
- 49:45about other songs that you have coming out. Okay, all right, thank
- 49:52you so much. Good night everyone, Basic Black after Dawn dolllu Pod Cash
- 50:00Show with your host. That was so nice. Thank you so much.
- 50:07It was just I learned a lot sitting here talking to you about it,
- 50:12because you know, some people take take it for granted, you know,
- 50:15about cancer, cancer wareness. I have another guest coming on on the twenty
- 50:22fourth, and we're talking about breast cancer. So I'm trying to do this
- 50:25month for what it is, you know. But it's just amazing, you
- 50:31know. I don't think that we should be talking about it just in October
- 50:36and wearing the pink just in October. I think that things like cancer should
- 50:40be dedicated. Maybe let's just say the first of every month, you know,
- 50:44but then there's so much going on. You have HIV, so it's
- 50:46going to be the second of every month. Every day you'll be doing something,
- 50:50But then every day we should be until we can get a cure for
- 50:53all of this. I think everything every day we should be because when it
- 50:57boils down to it, no matter what anybody has, it's a form of
- 51:00cancer. And then he said, hey, but that's some form of cancer.
- 51:04They just gave it a different name. That's rights cancer, you know.
- 51:09And that's the sad part. It's truly, it's sad. Praying for
- 51:15you, now, what's stay you when you're in Ohio. I'm in Ohio.
- 51:22Gosh. I just wish I had some connection because I did housing here
- 51:25in this state. I did housing here. Yeah, the section that now
- 51:30you know, you can port that section eight vouch you. Once you get
- 51:31it, you can go to Atlanta. And once you get it, just
- 51:35you can head to Atlanta. They'll take it. Any state that has what
- 51:37you make, they'll take it.