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- 0:00Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, April twenty fifth of IM your host
- 0:03Tom Moore. The Akron game in one hundred and twenty eight days, the
- 0:06game against Michigan in two hundred and nineteen days, The first round of the
- 0:09NFL Draft happening later tonight up in Detroit. I'm going to be at least
- 0:13one Buckeye here is hearing his name called tonight, and several more coming up
- 0:17later on over the weekend. Wanted to talk about that put everything in a
- 0:20little bit of historical context. I thought, who am I going to have
- 0:23on to talk about this? And then someone handed me a post it note
- 0:26that said Kevin Noon, no matter what. So I said, Okay,
- 0:28well, I'm going to draft Kevin Noon talk about all of this stuff with
- 0:31us. He actually, coincidentally, not quite quick with coincidentally wrote a really
- 0:35interesting buy the Numbers piece at buckehuddle dot com about the NFL Draft. Kevin,
- 0:40let's start at the top of the draft and that is where we're going
- 0:43to see Marvin Harrison picked. As you wrote in your piece, five Ohio
- 0:47state receivers have previously gone top ten. Does Marvin Harrison join them this today
- 0:53and if he does, where is he headed? Yes? Thanks for watching
- 0:57now. Yeah, I do think he is going to be the and not
- 1:00only will he be will or will he join that group of Ted gin Junior,
- 1:07David Boston, Terry Dlann, and Joey Galloway. I think that Marvin
- 1:10Harrison Junior will have the highest spot with going number four to Arizona. I'm
- 1:18just sitting here looking at my notes. Terry Glynn going seven in the ninety
- 1:23six draft was the high water mark. I don't think that there's any way
- 1:26that he slides past. For be quite honest, it would be a nice
- 1:30reunion with Harris Johnson Junior who was there. This is one of those picks
- 1:37that has been just kind of locked in for a long time when it looked
- 1:40like it was just going to be quarterbacks. Off of the top one,
- 1:42two, and three. Hasn't been a lot of drama here now. Of
- 1:46course, the thing that we can't predict is does another team slide into that
- 1:51number four pick. Do they trade with Arizona, does Arizona move down?
- 1:53Does Arizona see value in multiple receivers, say we can get more draft capital,
- 2:00we slide down to eight or ten or whatever. But if you're moving
- 2:05up at that point, are there enough quarterbacks in the draft to really move
- 2:08up there to slide Harrison out of that spot? Here at this point,
- 2:14just hours before the draft, I'm going to say no, but I'm willing
- 2:17to push my chips in that he will be a top ten pick. Yeah,
- 2:23for sure, that feels like you could probably that You're probably not going
- 2:25to get tremendous odds on Marvin Harrison being a top ten pick. That seems
- 2:30pretty pretty safe. But we will find out again later tonight. And then,
- 2:35yeah, I thought that was an interesting note. Dry Glenn the highest
- 2:38drafted ohiosted receiver prior to potentially Marvin Harrison at seven overall. Here's another interesting
- 2:44one. The last time ohis hit had a defensive player taken in the first
- 2:46round of the NFL Draft was twenty twenty, So, Kevin, is that
- 2:52something that might change this year? No, thanks for watching my call.
- 2:58Is going to be the highest rate defensive Buckeye on the board. I have
- 3:01not seen a single mock draft that has him in the first round. Quite
- 3:05honestly, NFL dot Com has him in that two second to third round range.
- 3:10I'm seeing a hell of a lot more third round than I'm seeing second
- 3:15round when it comes to him. But you know it only it only takes
- 3:19one team. And let's not forget that twenty twenty Plass had three defensive players
- 3:23taken, with Chase Young two, Jeff Okuda three, and Damon Arnette surprisingly
- 3:28number nineteen to the Raiders. Twenty twenty five will be what cures all of
- 3:35that with players like Jack Sawyer and Denzel Burke and j T. Tuamoloau all
- 3:42being draft eligible players, and I think that we see the streak end at
- 3:45that point. But Mike Hall will not be a Night one pick. He
- 3:49will be a Night two selection with the second and third rounds in my opinion.
- 3:53And I think it goes a little bit to just show why Ohio State
- 3:59has kind of run up against a little bit of a brick wall in some
- 4:00years, that it's just not necessarily putting out the number of top end defensive
- 4:06players. And when you're talking like a program like Ohio State that has more
- 4:11first round picks than any other program in the country by a pretty nice margin,
- 4:16it goes to show that they just haven't necessarily been the dudes that have
- 4:21been considered to be the best of the best in in in draft capital.
- 4:28So there's not a Bosa or a Young or somebody like that. But a
- 4:33year from now, we'll be staying a different tune. Yeah, And I
- 4:38do want to get to that a little later on that something that seems like
- 4:40good news right now might not be good news long term, and something that
- 4:43seems like bad news right now might not be bad news long term. We'll
- 4:45get to that in a minute, but first I did want to ask you.
- 4:48We're going to call this the Jordan Fuller Trophy. Who is the Ohio
- 4:51State player who goes late and we'll just define that as like round four or
- 4:55later for example. So who is the player this year that goes round four
- 5:00or later and then turns into a really good, solid pro, maybe a
- 5:04better player than you would expect based on where they were picked. Let's say
- 5:09Tommy Eikenberg, because he was somebody. I mean, he is not the
- 5:15most athletic linebacker in the draft. I think I think Tommy would be.
- 5:19I mean, if Tommy talked that, he would probably agree with me at
- 5:23that point. He might just brunt an agreement. But he is just your
- 5:29old school throwback. You know this dislocated shoulder is getting in my way.
- 5:33Just cut my damn arm off and put me back in there. Type of
- 5:38player, I think that he is somebody that certainly could overplay what his draft
- 5:46position is in my opinion. But the reality is is I kind of go
- 5:49through a lot of the other guys that I'm looking at four or five,
- 5:54sixty seven, and they all have their own challenges as well to make a
- 6:00fifty three man roster. And you know, like I really like Xavior Johnson,
- 6:03but I don't think he gets I don't think he gets selected. I
- 6:06think he goes undrafted free agent. But what he is able to do in
- 6:11his multifaceted approach makes him more valuable on a fifty three man roster, with
- 6:15the ability to play special teams, ability to run the ball, to catch
- 6:18the ball, to do a lot of things like that. Now, making
- 6:21the fifty three is going to be a challenge coming in as an undrafted free
- 6:25agent, but that it happens more than we talk about. But I'm going
- 6:29to just say Tommy based on I've seen a lot of linebackers like him through
- 6:33the years, and I know that we're seeing a shift again, and what
- 6:38what your modern linebacker is looking like. But Tommy's the one that makes the
- 6:41most sense to me, and so I'm just going to run through the Pro
- 6:45Football Focus did a full seven round mock draft, and I think there's probably
- 6:49I probably don't need to explain to you the you know, exact utility of
- 6:54a full seven round mock draft and how accurate each of these sixth round picks
- 6:57are going to be. Probably not that acturate, Probably way too many moving
- 7:00parts before that. But I do find these useful in terms of just sort
- 7:03of understanding where generally, broadly speaking, guys are being considered as likely to
- 7:10get picked. So they had Marvin Harrison fourth overall the Cardinals, As Kevin
- 7:15said earlier that I think that's sort of a pretty industry consensus at this point.
- 7:18Barring a trade Mike Hall sixty ninth overall to the LA Chargers, that
- 7:23would be early third round. Kate Stover and Tommy Eickenberg. They have them
- 7:26picked four spots apart, one hundred and fifteenth overall to the Bengals in round
- 7:30four for Kate Stover, one hundred and nineteenth overall to the Patriots in round
- 7:33four for Tommy Eikenberg. Tommy Eicherberger and a Patriots uniform feels pretty spiritually accurate.
- 7:39I think then they had Steel Chambers two hundred and seventh overall to the
- 7:43Broncos in the sixth round, Josh Proctor two hundred and twenty ninth overall to
- 7:46the Raiders in the seventh round. Davier Johnson, that is a great shout.
- 7:48I think that he is. He's one of those guys that does a
- 7:50lot of the stuff that would maybe make you more likely to make a team
- 7:55as an undrafted free agent. They do have him going undrafted. So those
- 7:59are the six Buckeyes who they the Pro Football Focus mock draft has getting picked.
- 8:03Michigan has. I didn't count up the Michigan picks, you know,
- 8:07the industry consensus feels, you know, seems like it's somewhere in the neighborhood
- 8:09of fifteen or so, like it might be the most picks ever for a
- 8:13team or in that neighborhood at least. And this is one of those times
- 8:18where it's good news tonight. It's not necessarily good news this fall because I
- 8:24always go back Kevin to the nineteen ninety nine NFL Draft and the Buckeyes had
- 8:26fourteen players taken, and it was like, wow, this is incredible,
- 8:30this is you've never seen this many players taken. And then you have to
- 8:33replace all those guys that fall, and that's that's not so easy. So
- 8:39there are It does feel like, as you said earlier, there are a
- 8:41lot of potential future first rounders on this Ohio State team coming up this fall,
- 8:48not you know, only losing one first rounder this year and only potentially
- 8:50losing six drafted players overall. That could actually be very good news for Ohio
- 8:56State in just a few months, just a few months, but you know,
- 9:00and then we take it a year further and we're talking about the same
- 9:01situation for Ohio State that you kind of mentioned there for Michigan in terms of
- 9:05having to replace everybody. But yeah, we're going to have to find our
- 9:09way to Green Bay in three hundred and sixty five days or whenever the twenty
- 9:13five draft is, because it's going to be chok full of Buckeyes. But
- 9:18for this twenty four season, which none of us want to fast forward through.
- 9:20Hell, I don't want to fast forward through the summer. Let's I
- 9:22know, we're one hundred and twenty eight days or whatever away from the Akron
- 9:26game. But I don't I don't want to give up the summer quite yet.
- 9:28But yeah, it's going to be a team that's going to be deep
- 9:33on deep on talent. Because we talk about, okay, recruiting stars,
- 9:37picking up a three or four or five out of high school, it is
- 9:41completely different keeping your fourth year senior defensive end or your you know, your
- 9:48fifth year senior cornerback or whatnot. I mean, how many stars is that
- 9:54worth? Eight stars? I mean, we don't even have that necessarily on
- 9:58the scale. But we're talking about a twenty one year old, twenty two
- 10:01year old young man compared to like a seventeen year old kid. So there's
- 10:07not going to be as much viewership from Buckeye Nation on this NFL draft as
- 10:13they're going to be in other years, just based on the thin numbers and
- 10:16maybe the lack of names and everything else. But I think it just means
- 10:22that twenty four is going to be a hell of a ride from the Buckeyes.
- 10:26It sure feels like it's shaping up that way. And I think there
- 10:31were a lot of people came out coming out of the spring, coming out
- 10:33of the NFL Draft declaration process, coming out of the transfer portal process.
- 10:37Feeling pretty good about wor Ohio State stands for this fall. I don't know
- 10:41that anything anything has changed on that front. Should be a pretty exciting summer
- 10:45end fall. Don't, as Kevin said, don't wish that summer away.
- 10:48But in one hundred and twenty eight days we'll be back in the horseshoe watching
- 10:50the Buckeyes tick on Akron in the season opener. Then the NFL Draft starts
- 10:56Thursday night at eight o'clock. You can find that on SPN. Should be
- 11:01it should be an interesting night, hopefully a hopefully a good night for Marvin
- 11:05Harrison Junior. Always a really well respected, good good guy, hard worker.
- 11:11Great to see that payoff for him tonight. We'll be watching that,
- 11:15and then we'll be watching the rest of the Ohio State football calendar start to
- 11:18turn the pages as we go through the recruiting season and the camp season and
- 11:22all that fun stuff where as we head into the into the fall, and
- 11:26we'll be doing that all at bucke huddle dot com. That's where Kevin Tony
- 11:28Nike over the team, Mark covers recruiting, got our whole team of ex's
- 11:31and nose gurus making you a smarter football fan, all at bucke huddle dot
- 11:35com and at YouTube dot com slash Buckey Huddle. That'll do it for today.
- 11:37Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll
- 11:41talk to you tomorrow