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Thursday September 17, 2026 | Midterm Pessimism, AI Doomers · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 3: a feeling you might want to lead.
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  Speaker 2: And if you don't, I.
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  Speaker 3: Do because you presented, but you, you, you foresaw this,
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  Speaker 3: that you might give me a little bit of radio
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  Speaker 3: as you did yourself. The notion of optimism and pessimism is,
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  Speaker 3: For the midterms, because as we just spent our special
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  Speaker 3: time together on radio, what gave birth to this entire
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  Speaker 3: podcast enterprise, Eminem on Radio, which you can see at
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  Speaker 3: show as you're preparing for your radio show.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And you said, Mark, help me out. I'm just feeling
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  Speaker 3: kind of slump-shouldered about the midterms. The House of Representatives
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  Speaker 3: is taking time off. We can't get out of this war. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: And I opened it up to listeners and I got
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  Speaker 3: some really, really nice feedback. And I did a little
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  Speaker 3: deep dive into it. And here's the bottom line and
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  Speaker 3: see what you think and where you want to take it. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: there are a lot of things you can nitpick at
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  Speaker 3: and take a look at and, you know, gas prices
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  Speaker 3: and affordability and we can't get out of the war.
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  Speaker 3: And I know and we're impatient. But ultimately, when push
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  Speaker 3: comes to shove, the best thing we can do is say, OK,
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  Speaker 3: there are a number of things that you're not thrilled by.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me one way in any universe that Democrats will
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  Speaker 3: make any of them better, will make any of them better.
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  Speaker 3: War stuff, affordability stuff, gas prices. anything, and then start
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  Speaker 3: to make the list of the things where we have
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  Speaker 3: managed a return to sanity, environmental extremism, gone, gender cults
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  Speaker 3: on the way out, borders and crime, two of the
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  Speaker 3: worst problems. Ten years ago, you and I are doing
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  Speaker 3: talk shows. What are the two hardest things to solve?
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  Speaker 3: Borders and crime. They're both so much better. Surely that's
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  Speaker 3: got to be worth something.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me share Savannah Hernandez as a young influencer.
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  Speaker 2: And I think we've interviewed her. She's a turning point contributor.
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  Speaker 2: And here's what she wrote on X yesterday. I'll never
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  Speaker 2: forgive Republicans for paving the way for socialists to have
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  Speaker 2: the most powerful messaging possible ahead of the midterm election.
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  Speaker 2: Gas is high. Overseas wars have continued. And now democratic
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  Speaker 2: socialists can easily campaign on fixing all of it. So
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  Speaker 2: the point is, to your point, she's trying to make
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  Speaker 2: the argument. She's a conservative. Smart young lady. I'm generally
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  Speaker 2: a fan. I am too. But what she's saying is
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  Speaker 2: they have– they do. And she's not wrong. They've got
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  Speaker 2: talking points. Look at the what what's your affordability like, America?
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  Speaker 2: Don't we can make it better. Now, they don't know.
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  Speaker 2: They have no way of making it better.
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  Speaker 4: Correct.
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  Speaker 2: It'll only get infinitely worse. But, Mark, we're saying this
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  Speaker 2: is a couple of talk show hosts who are engaged
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  Speaker 2: and plugged in. Most Joe and Mary Beer Can in Omaha, Nebraska.
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  Speaker 2: They ain't glued to the TV or the radio or podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: They're just trying to get through the day. And they're saying,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, Myrtle? Gas is $ 4. 27 a gallon. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I got a better chance in electing Democrats because the
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  Speaker 2: Republicans have failed us. Mark, she's not wrong in that argument.
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  Speaker 3: But here's the answer to that. You're right. That's an
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  Speaker 3: observation being made across all of America's time zones. And
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  Speaker 3: here's the best answer. If you want to talk about affordability, affordability, affordability,
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  Speaker 3: and which party does the better job of affordability, if
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  Speaker 3: Joe and Mary Beer can are in Nebraska, how are
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  Speaker 3: things in Nebraska, a red state? are things in Texas
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  Speaker 3: and Florida, the states where we live, red states, versus, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, California, New York, and Illinois. How affordable
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  Speaker 3: are things in those fiefdoms? So if you want to
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  Speaker 3: take a look at America and see how red states
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  Speaker 3: are governed and how blue states are governed, the people
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  Speaker 3: who want to govern America, kind of like a big
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  Speaker 3: red state, would seem to be the folks who deserve
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  Speaker 3: your preference.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the Democrats do have proof of how they govern,
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  Speaker 2: and California is a great example of that. But the
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  Speaker 2: problem is, and the argument, and look, you're right, again,
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  Speaker 2: but I... I'm mad at the world today. I am
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  Speaker 2: just pissed off at the world. I am not happy
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  Speaker 2: about anything. I mean, I'm just grumpy today, and I
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  Speaker 2: admit it. Tracy called me last night. Well, you know
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  Speaker 2: we're going to lose in November. I'm like, no, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay. Thanks, sunshine.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Talk about Norman Vincent Peale over here.
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  Speaker 2: You know, win friends and influence people. And she doesn't
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  Speaker 2: want to lose. Look, Tracy's watching all the shows and
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  Speaker 2: she's as plugged in as Rhonda is, your producer. And
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  Speaker 2: Tracy just feels like, here's the headline, the optics. You
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  Speaker 2: said it this morning. Optics, optics, optics. Oh, great. The
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  Speaker 2: house goes home after working seven days after the summer
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  Speaker 2: recess and now they go home. Well, A couple of
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  Speaker 2: people pointed out to me as I lamented that headline, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but they're not on vacation. They're home and they're campaigning
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  Speaker 2: and they're working and they're in the districts.
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  Speaker 3: District work is important, but being there under the Capitol
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  Speaker 3: Dome is where the cameras find you and where you
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  Speaker 3: give at least the impression that you're doing something. But
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  Speaker 3: isn't that part of the problem? I'm glad you brought
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  Speaker 3: this up because I thought about this after our radio get-together.
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  Speaker 3: The notion of doing something. We're always looking for Congress
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  Speaker 3: to do something. And obviously there are things they need
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  Speaker 3: to do and there are things we'd like them to
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  Speaker 3: do under the Trump agenda. But maybe this is part
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  Speaker 3: of how we've all bought into the notion of how
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  Speaker 3: nothing gets better in America against all these magical members
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  Speaker 3: of Congress get into the dome, do all these voting
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  Speaker 3: and all these things and pass all this legislation. I
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  Speaker 3: had Bill O'Reilly on this morning with his book, Confronting America.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And his big point is that most of America's problems
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  Speaker 3: are not things that Congress or even a president can
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  Speaker 3: do a doggone thing about. They're about us, our society,
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  Speaker 3: our families. And those are way harder to solve. And
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  Speaker 3: they don't make headlines as much. And I think he's right.
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  Speaker 2: He's right on the money. And he and incidentally, here's
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  Speaker 2: a great response to Savannah Hernandez is very pessimistic outlook
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  Speaker 2: on social media. TM Key writes this. Gas prices are high.
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  Speaker 2: Interest rates are high. Grocery bills are high. So naturally,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to abandon my party and vote for the
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  Speaker 2: party of communists, Islamic extremists, and criminal illegal aliens. Makes
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  Speaker 2: perfect sense.
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  Speaker 3: We have a winner.
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  Speaker 2: There you go. There you go. By the way, a
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  Speaker 2: quick point about tomorrow's show. We want to do health tomorrow.
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  Speaker 2: We want to talk about... Why not? I don't know
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  Speaker 2: that I want to do it on our daily shows,
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  Speaker 2: but on the podcast, we're coming up with a theme.
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  Speaker 2: We're coming up with a theme of a wonderful, wonderful
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  Speaker 2: way that we can. And we've also got a Carbon
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  Speaker 2: Zero podcast scheduled for tomorrow. Tracy just reminded me. So
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  Speaker 2: we might have a little scheduling snafu here, but we're
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  Speaker 2: going to work all that out. But we got carbon
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  Speaker 2: zero in studio. We got health. And I'm also mad
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  Speaker 2: at the world over this little heart thing I got
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  Speaker 2: going on, this blockage. You just went through it. You
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  Speaker 2: had a potential blockage. They got in there and they
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  Speaker 2: did a heart catheterization. Now, why they didn't do that
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  Speaker 2: to me, I'm a little bit– I'm a little concerned.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to find out from a cardiologist when I
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  Speaker 2: follow up next week whether they will.
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  Speaker 3: It's probably a good idea because I went from doing
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  Speaker 3: the VIA scan of the lasculinus, which showed that my
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  Speaker 3: calcification score was high– Then the CT angiogram, that's what
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  Speaker 3: I think you did, where they shoot the dye through you,
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  Speaker 3: where they can sort of see the efficiency of how
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  Speaker 3: everything's flowing. And that's what gave them the thought that said, huh,
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  Speaker 3: maybe in that left anterior descending, the widow maker, love
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  Speaker 3: that title. that maybe there's something we want to look
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  Speaker 3: at with an actual heart catheterization. And if we find
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  Speaker 3: sufficient blockage, we can go ahead and put the stent
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  Speaker 3: in right there. They went in. 70% is kind of
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  Speaker 3: where they go with the stent. I was like 30.
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  Speaker 3: They pulled that hose out and said, get out of here.
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  Speaker 2: It was great.
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  Speaker 3: Now, you said you had 50.
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  Speaker 2: A 52. My kids keep saying 50. Everybody stop saying 50.
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  Speaker 2: It's 52. Yes, it is. Harry Hypochondriac, don't short sell
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  Speaker 2: my plaque in my arteries.
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  Speaker 3: We're minimizing your blockage, sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Right, right. And, of course, getting input from our audience
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  Speaker 2: makes it worse. One guy said, yeah, I had 50,
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  Speaker 2: which is less than mine, and they did a stent.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm thinking, well, should I be getting a stent?
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  Speaker 2: And everybody keeps telling me, no, they only do a
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  Speaker 2: stent if it's 70 or more. Isn't that what you
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  Speaker 2: were told?
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was told. So 50 would not
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  Speaker 3: be stint worthy, but it's weird. You know, going in,
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  Speaker 3: going in, I almost said, can I lobby for the stint?
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  Speaker 3: Because I like burgers and I was only partially kidding.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, if you're in there and you
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  Speaker 3: can do something that structurally opens me up, knock yourself out.
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  Speaker 3: And I said, no, we're going to see if it's needed.
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  Speaker 3: And in my case, it wasn't. And I will tell
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  Speaker 3: you that there may be something in the actual heart
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  Speaker 3: catheterization that is way more accurate. I've heard it referred
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  Speaker 3: to 27 times as the gold standard of accuracy, that
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  Speaker 3: even the contrast CT angiogram is not– I mean that
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  Speaker 3: 52 might not be 52. It might be 60. It
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  Speaker 3: might be 40 or something like that. So I'm a big,
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  Speaker 3: big fan. Interesting. of the catheterization if the cardiologist says
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  Speaker 3: do it.
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  Speaker 2: The Uprising, and Mark, I'm a movie fan, but you're
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  Speaker 2: Okay. Do you remember George Will Smith?
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  Speaker 3: Well, of course.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he hasn't been around very much. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. He's he's 85.
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  Speaker 3: I remember when I liked him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I don't like him now.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, gosh.
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  Speaker 2: Are you ready?
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  Speaker 3: Trump, for those who don't know, legendary Washington Post columnist.
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  Speaker 3: And if there's anything that is as cool about reading
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  Speaker 3: George Will about politics over the years, it's reading and
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: listening to George Will talk about baseball. He has a
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  Speaker 3: passion for both. He's just one of those gentlemanly, patrician guys.
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  Speaker 3: You'd find him on the McLaughlin Group sometimes. Go back
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  Speaker 3: a few years, and there's maybe nobody that I liked
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  Speaker 3: better to read and to listen to. And then Trump
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  Speaker 3: broke him. Carry on.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you want to know how bad he broke him?
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  Speaker 5: Please.
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  Speaker 2: And I think of you— I think of you because
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  Speaker 2: you've got this brilliant analysis of these establishment Republicans who,
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  Speaker 2: And how they're doing everything they can to undermine the
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  Speaker 2: MAGA movement. You've got this great way of articulating something
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  Speaker 2: that I know in my heart. But, you know, because
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people will roll their eyes. Oh, come on.
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  Speaker 2: You know, George Will isn't really trying to undermine the
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  Speaker 2: Republican Party. George Will doesn't really loathe the millions of
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  Speaker 2: Americans who voted for Donald Trump. Come on. It's not
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  Speaker 2: that bad, Mark Davis. It's not that bad. Well, George
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  Speaker 2: Will decided to write an op-ed in the Washington Post today,
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  Speaker 2: and he endorsed a candidate. He endorsed a U.S. Senate candidate.
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  Speaker 2: He endorsed a candidate from South Carolina. Spoiler alert, he
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  Speaker 2: did not endorse Darlene Graham. Mark, I kid you not,
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  Speaker 2: George Will in the Washington Post today has formally endorsed
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  Speaker 2: pediatrician Annie Andrews.
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  Speaker 1: In the U.S.
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  Speaker 2: Senate race vacated by the death of Lindsey Graham. Now,
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  Speaker 2: why does he say why? Oh, because Darlene seems oblivious
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  Speaker 2: of the Constitution's framers because of her belief that boys
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  Speaker 2: have no place in girls' sports. She seems oblivious to
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  Speaker 2: the war. She was terrible in the debate. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I was laughing at this column where he's endorsing Dr.
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  Speaker 2: Annie Andrews. Here's what he writes. It's all about Trump.
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  Speaker 2: It's all about Trump. And I'll quote from George Will's column,
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  Speaker 2: which is your point. This is why you're so brilliant
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  Speaker 2: in your analysis of how the George Wills of the
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  Speaker 2: world really have a deep loathing for everything related to Trump,
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  Speaker 2: namely the MAGA movement. Listen to this. Here are his words.
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  Speaker 2: South Carolina is as red as the cheeks of a
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  Speaker 2: blushing Senate candidate should be when the candidate promises to
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  Speaker 2: serve passively as an enabler of presidential whims. No Democratic
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  Speaker 2: Senate candidate in South Carolina has come within eight points
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  Speaker 2: of winning in this century. By taking Lindsey Graham's sister
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  Speaker 2: away from her admirable work advocating for people with disabilities,
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  Speaker 2: the president is proclaiming he can do whatever he wants.
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  Speaker 2: And he expresses a disdain for the Senate as well
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  Speaker 2: as South Carolina. Today's president... aggrandizes his power by maximizing
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  Speaker 2: the abject subordination of his entire party. It is perhaps
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  Speaker 2: too much to hope that today's South Carolina might spurn
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  Speaker 2: a Senate candidate too servile to secede from Donald Trump's domination. Still,
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  Speaker 2: come November, hope for evidence that South Carolina, which historically
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  Speaker 2: has been so truculent about its independence and has actually
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  Speaker 2: exercised it. Independence-minded South Carolina should vote for Annie Andrews,
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  Speaker 2: says George Will, longtime Republican-funded. God help us.
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  Speaker 3: But no longer. He has become a Democrat. That's just it.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: So has Karl Rove in talking about how he's not
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• 17:37
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• 18:36
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  Speaker 2: everything else. Quote, I will have President Trump's back 100%, unquote. So,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: of course, she wants all illegals deported immediately. Her state
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: might immediately miss a significant portion of its immigrant population,
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• 19:25
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  Speaker 6: What?
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• 19:49
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• 19:52
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• 20:04
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  Speaker 3: Will it make me like him again after his weird
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  Speaker 3: moment of establishment flirtation? It's, you know... Look, if.
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  Speaker 2: If you're worried about the hoax, I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: will like him because I'm worried about this hoax. It's
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  Speaker 2: a hoax. The hoax is that we're about to all
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: get wiped out by AI. And all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 2: out of nowhere, all of a sudden, we're all going
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  Speaker 2: to die from AI. Well, here is the Will Rogers
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: of the U.S. Senate. A guy who can make us
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: both a little crazy at times. Check out his weighing in,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: courtesy of— what' s wrong? Oh, we don't have the clip. Okay,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: she doesn't have the clip now. Sorry about that.
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  Speaker 3: Paraphrase it for me.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I've got the transcript here. Mr. President, it's hard
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: to know precisely what to believe about artificial intelligence, he said.
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  Speaker 2: There are some things, it seems to me, that we
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: do know. We know, for example, that it is a
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: breathtaking technology. It's just, I don't know any other word.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I should do his accent, but I don't know any
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: other word. It just takes your breath away in terms
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: of its potential. We know that it was primarily developed
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: by and through American ingenuity. We, despite the fact that
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: there's so much we don't know, we do know. that
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: it can make our lives infinitely better. We also, we
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: don't know, but it has been suggested by people smarter
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: than me that it can make our lives better if
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: it doesn't kill us first. Here we go. The doomers
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: on the Republican side and the Democrats. I know.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: And I don't know if they're trying to resonate with
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: people because most of this fear mongering, most of this
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: doom cult comes from Democrats and big tech.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Oops.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: But I repeat myself. So I think that I would
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: call on conservatives and Republicans to be cautious, be vigilant,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: but ultimately to trust America, trust President Trump's stewardship over this. Please, God,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: let's have somebody like him be the next president. so
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: that we can continue. Because I tell you, if you
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: think this presidency is important in the future of AI,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: imagine what AI is going to be doing in the
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: years 2029, 2030, 2031, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's just it. And Jason Chaffetz had a perfect
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: response to the hysteria, the doom, the gloom. There is
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: an agenda going on here. Look, and I think it
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: was Nancy Mace, of all people, who said on TV
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  Speaker 2: last night, if the AI— founders and the AI overlords
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  Speaker 2: wanted to pump the brakes, they could pump the brakes.
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  Speaker 2: They could put up their own damn guard. They don't
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: need Congress. They don't need Congress for guardrails, but they're
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: asking for guardrails from Congress. And that is very suspicious. Well,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: like I told you earlier in the week, there's a
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: really easy explanation for it. And former Utah Congressman Jason Chaffetz,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: now a Fox News contributor, put it best.
• 27:07
  Speaker 7: Do you think that the Democrats see this divide as
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: an opportunity for them to get ahead in the midterms?
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: They're jumping all over AI.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, they are notoriously reactionary to polls. And I think
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: they saw something in the polling. They know there's no
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: time to put a piece of legislation together. And if
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: you just decided the last four or five days you
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: want to put up some guardrails, you know, that should
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: be the flashing red light. And if you think Chuck
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: Schumer's got the mind power to actually do this and
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: help regulate it. Good luck with that, because the overall
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: problem in Congress is you've got 535 members and you
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: literally have less than five that could actually talk to
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: you at any length or any depth about what technology
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: even is, how it works and what it would do.
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  Speaker 2: That's just it. I mean, that's just exactly the truth
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: of the matter. And one more clip here, and I
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: don't want to get out of here because I appreciated
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: very much the perspective of Fox News Channel's Brian Kilmeade,
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: Ainsley Earhart, and Lawrence Jones. They had a really, really good,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: solid analysis of recognizing that Silicon Valley— And these AI
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: bosses desperately want woke lunatics to be the ones to
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: oversee AI. Check this out, Mark, yesterday from Fox and Friends.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: You know, Hakeem Jeffries and saying this needs to be
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: the biggest issue of the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 3: And Ainsley, there's a rush.
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  Speaker 8: It's like we have to act now or everybody's going
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: to die. I'm sorry, you can't make a logical decision.
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  Speaker 8: decision with a gun to your head. I don't like
• 28:52
  Speaker 8: making decisions that way. And it just seems like all the.
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  Speaker 4: People in power want that to take place.
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: Look at the front cover of this morning. Now you
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: realize what's going on behind the scenes.
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  Speaker 9: The woke wizards of AI.
• 29:04
  Speaker 5: Brian, this really had you riled up.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so this blew crazy.
• 29:06
  Speaker 7: So this guy, Dario Amodi, he's the guy who runs Anthropic,
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  Speaker 7: who had the big clash with the Pentagon. He was
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: so concerned about his product being used in the wrong direction.
• 29:16
  Speaker 7: Now he's saying, everyone look at my product, kind of weird.
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  Speaker 2: But he says, I have an idea.
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  Speaker 9: Let's come up with a separate entity to look over
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: our shoulder and and make sure we're not causing the
• 29:26
  Speaker 9: next apocalypse.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: But let's look at this group.
• 29:29
  Speaker 9: This group is a bunch of woke lunatics who believe
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: in generic pronouns, open borders. In fact, one of these women,
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: Beth Barnes, gave a TED Talk on the internet. positive
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: nature of open borders. So these are the woke guys.
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  Speaker 9: Take a look at some of their pictures. You know,
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  Speaker 9: the purple hair, the rings, you know, the the the
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  Speaker 9: metrosexual approach to life. All I'm saying is these the
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: people are going to be the arbiter of whether the
• 29:56
  Speaker 9: world ends or not with AI.
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  Speaker 2: No, thank you. So this is what they always do.
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  Speaker 4: They create a problem, right? They say this is get
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: everybody freaked out. And then they say our people are
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  Speaker 4: the only people, the woke crazy to navigate us through this.
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  Speaker 4: It was only a matter of time before they told
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  Speaker 4: us who they were. It's all about control. I just
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  Speaker 4: don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard.
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  Speaker 8: And I made this point.
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  Speaker 3: Earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 4: I've never heard a group of powerful people. With all
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: this money, all this power, say I need the government
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  Speaker 4: to rescue us.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard it before.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: So there must be something to this.
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, the guy from Anthropic, he says that
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: he hired this outside team to regulate AI. Do you
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: trust them?
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: No way.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: These are all woke people. They believe in open borders.
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: Like you said, Brian, genderless pronouns, and they promote effective altruism.
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  Speaker 2: They're right. They're not wrong, Mark. And that's exactly. So
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: follow the bouncing ball here and just be appreciative of
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: the fact that that you're being played. We were played
• 31:04
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  Speaker 2: weeks to stop the spread. We were played over and
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  Speaker 2: We were all going to die when that happened. Of course.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: It was all so silly.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Knock it off. Knock it off.
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: I guess the difference that I continue to grudgingly offer
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: the following difference is from climate– to COVID. Everybody should
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: have known from the get-go that climate alarmism was stupid
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: and remains stupid. COVID, I'll be gracious, I'll give everybody
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• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Nobody knew what was going on, but it became pretty
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: clear afterward that there was COVID extremism and authoritarianism at play.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: With AI, the concerns absolutely are valid. It's just the
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: way that we're reacting to those concerns is crazily disproportionate
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  Speaker 3: to what the risks appear to be. The risk of
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: government getting its grubby hands on things, the risk of
• 32:04
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• 32:08
  Speaker 3: I'm ready to trust America, trust the Trump-style leadership to
• 32:12
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• 32:16
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  Speaker 3: I would rather have that mindset than this doom cult
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, it's going to be fun to
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  Speaker 2: dive into something like artificial intelligence. And tomorrow on the
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  Speaker 2: M & M Extra is AI Day. with Craig W. Stanfill,
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  Speaker 2: the author of Carbon Zero. Yeah, because besides this techno thriller, though,
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  Speaker 2: even more importantly, he has a lot of things to
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  Speaker 2: say about where AI is taking us and what the
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  Speaker 2: future holds and what's real, what's doomerism, and what's fact.
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  Speaker 2: So join us for that. In the meantime, thank you
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  Speaker 2: very much for being a part of M & M
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  Speaker 2: Extra for a Thursday, Mr. Davis.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to see you, my friend.
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  Speaker 3: We'll wrap up the week tomorrow and have a big
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  Speaker 3: time doing it.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you.