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Stella Lansing - CE5 And The Men In Black · HOLOSKY PODCAST

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  [SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna get into the crux of today's show, which as I stated earlier, is kind of like a precursor to the CE5 movement, the woman, I wouldn't have guessed that there was a precursor to the CE5 movement.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that she exactly knew that she had going on what she had going on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Her name is Stella Lansing and I'm going to title the show Stella and her images from the other side.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So to get into it, I'm going to talk a little bit about CE5, just kind of give a brief overview for people who aren't familiar.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: CE5 is close encounters of the fifth kind.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It refers to the methodology for human initiated peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Why is it got to be peaceful?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Is it because it's peaceful on our end?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think so, since it's a weird thing.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It's a weird thing to put it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So essentially, if we tried C5 and we were just saying things like suck at nerds, that's definitely not C5 then it would be, there's probably a subcategory for that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Cool.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That sounds, that sounds good.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the exact, like, close encounters the first kind, second kind, third kind is contact, right?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Fourth kind is like production.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Something along those lines.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Don't quote me on that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But CEV, again, peaceful contact with extraterrestrial civilizations developed by Dr. Stephen Greer, prominent UFO researcher who funded the center for the study of extraterrestrial intelligence, protocols involved using consciousness, meditation, specific light and sound signals, in group formations at UFO hotspots to attract and communicate with ETI with the goal of disclosure
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So, I feel like a lot of us in the UFO world, no, who's Stephen Greer is.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: He's had his experience out there, he's got apps and now that you can use, he's photographed, supposed entities from beyond and all kinds of stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Another thing that's been going on kind of in that realm is you have Chris Bledso.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: him calling in orbs, blurry dots of light that kind of look like satellites in the space station, but I won't talk about that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's also got his white lady who he communicates with.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And before you had all of that, you had Stella Lansing, which Stella Lansing was a middle-aged housewife from Massachusetts who in 1961 began to experience strange and otherworldly events throughout
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Over time these experiences let her down on bizarre path that involve UFOs, strange humanoid creatures, men and black, and visions of other world.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's it's crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: But and Stella Stella was a real one because even better.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She managed to document extensively good for her.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Most of her encounters via film via pictures, via all kinds of stuff.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Man, she didn't give a fuck then, did she?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She knew someone was one.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Today we're going to kind of look into Stella's case in her encounters and her meticulous documentation of her encounters with whatever was was initially contacting her but also she was contacting I guess.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So Stella for all intents and purposes was a normal kind of run of the male American woman for the time in the 60s.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She was born.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: November 14th, 1925 in Pittsfield, Massachusetts.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She graduated from Northampton High School.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She worked as a nurse at Northampton State Hospital.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She later married Richard G. Lansing and they had five children together.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She settled into being a mother of wife and a homemaker.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Pretty, pretty chill life at that point.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This all began to change
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  [SPEAKER_00]: A warm September night in 1961, and about 1 a.m. after she had finished feeding her infant daughter, Stella was out on her front porch, just kind of taken a breath, soak in the quietness in the piece, when she noticed a bright hovering orb outside of her Northampton home in Massachusetts.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: The object hovered at tree level, in the distant sky before zipping closely to her,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She noted that it appeared to be observing her.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Almost like she was an intent behind it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely, which like the thing I saw in Georgia, I felt like had the same, like that's what I felt too, which is bizarre.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, it was a fucking alien.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Which means, it's got to mean that it somehow taps into your conscious right there, right?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Your consciousness.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Somehow, something.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's got to be something like that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At first, I just thought I was being like main character syndrome, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, I'm seeing this, it's specifically for me, but then I'm like, man, it felt like it knew that I was looking at it.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's awesome, it gives me goosebumps, but it's awesome.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Suddenly,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: the orb shot away and disappear.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella said, quote, I saw a soft light like a rising star.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then it went so fast I thought it was a plane, but there was no sound.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Then it stopped dead, and it was about the size of a dinner plate, and it came at me at great speed.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: After it went away, after it disappeared the first time Stella would run upstairs to wake up Richard to try to show him the object, but by the time he made it to the window, it was gone.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: By 1963, the Lansing family was living in Palmer, Massachusetts.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And over the last year, Stella had seen these objects with growing frequency.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She noted that the lights behaved in ways that she couldn't necessarily explain.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At first, she didn't attribute them to UFOs because she felt that these things were more personal to her, like they were showing up specifically for her.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She said that they didn't fly in the way that you would think anything of the time could maneuver.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She said they was more so that they floated and they hovered and they changed directions in ways that she said didn't really align with the laws of inertia the way that they would move throughout the sky or how any aircraft at the time acted for that matter.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oddly enough, whereas she would see them, she would also state that they would just vanish into
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Which again, similar to what I saw too, you know, like as soon as Mel Zy's locked on it, the thing just blinked out.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is bizarre, bizarre.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Destiny, destiny, destiny, the next major event kind of took place in 1965 during the Great Northeast Blackout.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This was a significant disruption in the supply of electricity happened on Tuesday, November 9, 1965, affecting parts of Ontario, Canada, Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, and Vermont.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Over 30 million people in 80,000 square miles were left without electricity for up to 13 hours.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella was out that night driving to deliver some candles to a friend
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She was in route via Flint Street, when she noticed a bright light overhead.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She saw the same glowing object that visited her four years before.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: This time, however, it was traveling through the telephone poles along the highway as she was driving down them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So this thing was weaving in and out of the telephone poles.
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  [SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And she's driving and watching this thing, all of the sudden out of the darkness,
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Two headlights pop on.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And she sees it.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm thinking it's behind her.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it says, okay, headlights pop on suddenly up here in the highway, a black car was a few feet ahead of Stella.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And as she watched this car move, it was almost as if it had been being guided by whatever this orb was.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: They almost moved and tanned them over the road.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So as it would move, the car would move.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It would move, the car would move.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She said it appeared to be driven by the light so to speak, not necessarily in the car, but almost like in connection with the car.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking weird.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't think I've ever heard anything like that before.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: No, me either.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, the black car then just simply rolled off the highway down a hill to a standstill.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella kept driving, noticing that the Orbit change direction now that the car had stopped.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was now moving over fields alongside the highway.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She tried to maintain her focus on the Orbit until it disappeared from view and then continue under her friend's house.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Interestingly enough, many researchers have drawn connections to unusual UFO activity and sightings during this specific East Coast blackout.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: theories in my head, and almost made me wonder if this orb was weven in and out of the electric, electric poles, just to test to see if there was electricity at this point, you know?
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Could be.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Could be.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: It also makes me wonder, because I mean, when you said black car, well, I mean, there's a notorious figure that's associated with black cars.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: So it makes me wonder, like, what if the UFO warded off the MIB in that situation?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I didn't think about that.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: The fact that it's like, it's like, took control.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: And then it was like, oh, down there, there you go.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep, see ya.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: I didn't think about that.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: And how would they know that that orb was gonna appear there?
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Because this is not the only time this happens and still is life.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So still I kept driving, noticing that the orb would change a direct direction, moving over the fields alongside the high, alongside the highway.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: As she drove past the dark car, she since the occupants were watching her as the bright orbs suddenly dip below the telephone wires and into a nearby field.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: From where she sat still, saw the light fly northeast before flaring in a great red flash into the dark sky.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: She kept her car moving until she reached the safety of her friend's house.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: two years later, Stella continued to see strange light in the sky, this sometimes followed her home.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Her children were sometimes wither when the orbs would make their appearances, and they too would see them.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't just a one-off thing just for her.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: By the mid-late 60s, she'd only mentioned these experiences to her family and a few close friends.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Still unaware of what these lights were or what they wanted, but Stella couldn't have imagined what
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  [SPEAKER_00]: It was on the night of Halloween in 1966, when Stella had a terrifying encounter with a strange grotesque creature.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Around 720 pm, she parked her car facing the water of a nearby lake by their home.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Just as Stella was about to cut off her headlights, she saw what she thought was ahead bobbing up and down in the water of the lake.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Her eyes stuck to the figure bobbing in the water.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Scared out of her mind as to what she was seeing, she went to put her car in reverse to pull away from the shoreline where she was parked at.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: In her frontic state, she noticed that the humanoid creature had pulled itself out of the water and was crawling onto the shore.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
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  [SPEAKER_00]: That's a horror movie share right there.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: You don't I mean, it's one thing to like walk out of the water.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: That's scary.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: But it goes crawling out of the water.
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  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I fucked that.
• 19:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're getting run over kicked or I'm getting out of there.
• 19:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 19:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I like Stella's first option where she just put the car.
• 19:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I'm not dealing with this right now.
• 20:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Am I here?
• 20:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm out of here.
• 20:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm with her.
• 20:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's probably what I would have done too.
• 20:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: As it crawled to the shore, this thing stood up on two legs and began sprinting toward a peninsula that jutted out into the lake only 60 meters from where their house was.
• 20:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: So this thing sprinting off toward our house.
• 20:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, dude, that was scared of the shit out of me.
• 20:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 20:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 20:27
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's like, D1,000 on crack because it already knows where you're at.
• 20:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 20:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that it's underwater.
• 20:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that just so weird.
• 20:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: That part is so fucking scary.
• 20:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's what it is.
• 20:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: This thing's just fucking out there lurking.
• 20:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then it like it lets you see it.
• 20:49
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, watch this.
• 20:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: You think you're going to get away doubt that.
• 20:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to cut you off to just watch like a D1000 sprint and beat you home.
• 20:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: excuse me, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,
• 21:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Uh, again, sprinted toward her house, still adjusted her car and headlights to shine toward the location.
• 21:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: She saw a basketball-sized orange orb of light surrounded by a weird orange mist.
• 21:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: The dim light made the hairs on the back of her neck stand up.
• 21:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: Suddenly, a giant brighter orb of light swooped down behind her house and then flew across the water.
• 21:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: This bright red object was spotted by Stella's two teenage neighbors who saw a descend from the sky and glide down to the lake, not far behind them was Stella's family who remained completely oblivious to the bizarre phenomenon that occurred just up the road.
• 22:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's still terrifying, because I just think about having kids at home when you're not there and this fucking crazy ass thing is shooting off toward that.
• 22:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no, no, yeah, ran my car right into that orb.
• 22:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's right.
• 22:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the only reasonable explanation.
• 22:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
• 22:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So still assume that whatever this secondary bright light was came and picked up what the creature was,
• 22:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: guess luckily.
• 22:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'd rather know where it went or not know where it went.
• 22:39
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a good point because I think that night, I don't know I wouldn't have gotten sleep.
• 22:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 22:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: No.
• 22:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was apparent by 1967, six years after her initial contact, this Stella was having heavy traumatic experiences that seemed to be specific to her and surround her.
• 22:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: These lights were showing up a more frequency now.
• 23:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Almost as if they were attracted to Stella herself.
• 23:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: She began to wonder if she should try and document these odd occurrences.
• 23:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she got herself a browning and a polar-royed camera.
• 23:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Two tried to catch these things on film.
• 23:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: which, as you can expect, in the 1960s, they were not great, not very good, just a bunch of blurry photos, kind of felt like overexposers, but this didn't deter Stella, the phenomena kept happening.
• 23:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: It took a twist once still acquired an eight millimeter film camera.
• 23:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: She got said camera from her boss after she went to him about the strange incidences.
• 23:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just kind of confiding in him to see if he had seen anything at either.
• 23:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: He suggested, hey, are my eight millimeter camera or my eight millimeter video camera?
• 23:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: See if this changes anything.
• 23:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: See if the frame by frame helps you capture anything.
• 24:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Apparently it does.
• 24:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: On the night of February 18th, 1967, Stella once again saw the strange lights.
• 24:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: She stopped her car on Route 32 near Warren Road in Flint Street, which is again where the, or went between the power lines as a long Flint street.
• 24:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's very geographically close to one another, these, all of these encounters.
• 24:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just also a strange thing I didn't think about until just now.
• 24:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it does kind of,
• 24:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: link into it may being specific to Stella, if not specific to that general location right there.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 24:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so as she's see the or saw the orb, Stella does break rule number one, when you see
• 25:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's what we like here at the Holles guy.
• 25:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: We like people that have rules and then tend to break rules.
• 25:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
• 25:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, she noticed another car had pulled off the side of the road.
• 25:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: And a man who was the driver had also exited due to the unusual nature of the light.
• 25:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: So again, we have a secondary witness to what she was seeing.
• 25:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella asked the man if she saw the lights.
• 25:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the man was just almost in shock.
• 25:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yes, yes, I do.
• 25:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It had almost been three months since Stella's Halloween encounter when she decided to use her eight millimeter camera to try to capture the orb phenomenon that she'd been witnessing.
• 25:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, she didn't have the eight millimeter camera on her, so she turned around, drove back home, got it and headed back to the place.
• 25:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: As she neared the intersection, she's ready.
• 25:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said, I'm going to get you.
• 25:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Stay strapped.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 25:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: As she got back to the intersection, now she
• 25:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: that were there as opposed to the one and these two were bigger now and they had ascended from in between the power lines from above.
• 26:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: They silently joined the other light that she had seen.
• 26:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: She said one of the red lights stopped and it almost looked like it had, quote, bounced like a rubber ball across the across the road.
• 26:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's like the encounters with these things the way they move and shit is so weird.
• 26:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: And it sounds, it sounds almost fucking identical to the blood zone counter.
• 26:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: So right now, it's weird.
• 26:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: It makes you wonder if there's more of these species out there that are trying to communicate.
• 26:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, man.
• 26:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Has, I know I'm going to get ahead of myself here, but I'm thinking of questions I'm like going through.
• 26:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Have, have the blood cells came forward with any kind of an impact?
• 26:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: encounters.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.
• 26:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: I know they're they're all wouldn't be surprised, but I don't remember.
• 26:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's also hard to hard to like keep track of because they're they're also like kind of incahuts with a lot of the alphabet agencies anyway.
• 27:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and to be fair, like for whatever reason and current times, the men in black are not as heavily reported as they used to be.
• 27:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's weird.
• 27:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's weird.
• 27:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Stella remained out in the middle of this road to catching glimpses of these strange lights.
• 27:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: She had the lights bounced, traveled, flew around, giving her a lot of time to absorb and film them with her a millimeter camera.
• 27:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: At one point, she was joined by a cashier and friend of hers was on her way home from a long shift who just happened to see Stella parked along the side of the road.
• 27:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: The two cars parked next to each other as the women watched, these orbs just dance about
• 27:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Shortly thereafter, the lights vanished.
• 27:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: A bluish light then appeared off in the distance and slowly approached Stella and her friend.
• 27:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: She kept her camera pointed steadily at the object.
• 27:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: To their relief, it stopped about 150 feet away from them before flying away.
• 28:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Just then a bright burst of white light blinded the two as the object took off in incredible speeds into the sky.
• 28:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: all the while Stella's camera kept rolling.
• 28:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's quoted saying they were two yellowish lights she recounted.
• 28:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were silently walking from east to west toward the old cemetery.
• 28:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Stella had this eight millimeter camera and had all this film, but she didn't have any way to develop the film.
• 28:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: She only had the camera.
• 28:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she took her film, this is what she dubbed this specific encounter as the red bug, because the orb that was bouncing like a ball was orange.
• 28:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: to a laboratory, she took the film to a laboratory and spring-filled Massachusetts for developing.
• 28:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's when she learned that 25 foot of her film segment had been incorrectly spliced.
• 28:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Out of the 50 feet of film loaded into the camera, the last 25 feet were of her jeweler's friends, daughter, and her fiance in an outdoor setting.
• 29:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, the first 25 of the feet of the film did contain Stella's recording of the lights.
• 29:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: After she returned home, she had to borrow a projector to even view the footage.
• 29:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty much exactly how she remembered it.
• 29:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dark Knight, the way the lights moved, et cetera, except for about four seconds of the film.
• 29:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's where she saw what she believed was a human face within one of the Orbs.
• 29:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where things start getting different.
• 29:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah, I'm ready for it.
• 29:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 29:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: At this point, when she sees the face, she's beginning to question if she's seeing what she's really seeing.
• 29:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And right Felizzo, yes, so since she worked at the state hospital, she decided to voluntarily commit herself for a mental evaluation.
• 30:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: because she's like, these aren't things that happen in normal people.
• 30:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's up sound mine.
• 30:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say, she's abnormally calm and collected over this.
• 30:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because I believe it's very, like, it's well thought out.
• 30:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, because she is going through all of the checking off all the boxes to make sure what's going on is really going on.
• 30:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: I find out later on, we'll get into this doctor named Dr. Schwartz, that she was also experiencing different things that she didn't really talk about in some of these interviews.
• 30:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't find them directly from Stella, but I did find it in his notes.
• 30:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: He said that she was also experiencing
• 30:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, entities that were visiting her in the night, she said some of these had a physical contact with her where they would do some sort of like electroshock kind of kind of manipulation to her.
• 31:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: She just so stated that she was getting messages from B.L.s above, she's a demon.
• 31:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: and she has attributed these things coming from him that he was sending these things.
• 31:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she, as herself checked in, voluntarily committed to mental institution to make sure a mine wasn't playing tricks on her.
• 31:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Diagnosis was, do you want to guess?
• 31:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Psychosis?
• 31:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Paranoids, good for you.
• 31:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Close.
• 31:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: which is actually one of the more controversial aspects of Stella's story because when taken into account of the evidence that she actually produces and testimony of Dr. Swartz, one of the psychiatrists that his study Stella's Stella the most, the schizophrenia diagnosis doesn't really hold water because Dr. Swartz said, basically,
• 32:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: What Stella was seeing wasn't a result of paranoid schizophrenia.
• 32:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: The paranoia was a result of the thing she was experiencing.
• 32:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was kind of a byproduct.
• 32:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of a byproduct of the phenomena.
• 32:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and I think it kind of goes to further up point that it's a high probability that a lot of paranoid schizophrenia is probably used as a washout method to get rid of some of these things
• 32:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: Furthermore, it's also interesting that it says that it's beels above, and that these are demons or whatever sent from him, so forth.
• 32:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whereas that could be true.
• 32:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: It could also be a probability that it these things know our literature and our belief systems and they're using a reference.
• 33:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Could be that they, you know, that they had.
• 33:06
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna share reference, but.
• 33:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll get into it a little bit more when I get into Dr. Schwartz's notes because that was the only place I could see where it was talked about because I couldn't find any other information directly from her referring to it, but he does bring it up because we'll get into it.
• 33:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, she was committed for 10 days where she was discharged from the hospital, and at that point, after getting the paranoid schizophrenia diagnosis, she was pretty much convinced that all this taking place was in her head.
• 33:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: She had a few snippets of evidence, other people seeing at least the orbs.
• 33:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: But the other phenomenon that came along with it was all specific to her, so she was thinking, maybe this is really just me, my brain, you know, fire and off for some of these things.
• 33:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: And I think because of that, I'll label Stella as a real one.
• 34:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, because who the fuck wouldn't do the same thing?
• 34:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
• 34:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Especially after you're like, you went in to make sure your brain was good and they tell you your brain's not good, so you're going to be like, um, yeah, maybe they're right.
• 34:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's a hyper vulnerable state and situation, because like there have been times where I've questioned my sanity and see and stuff and experiencing things and.
• 34:31
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like it's kind of a twofold thing is.
• 34:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're seeing it and you're believing it however you're at the same time you're rationalizing in a way, but it's also scary thought that You could be influenced by Dr. somebody being like no dude.
• 34:48
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're just fucking crazy.
• 34:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yep There's no scientific evidence for any of this.
• 34:52
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is bullshit.
• 34:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: You're you're fucking crazy.
• 34:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: What it is is a chemical imbalance in your brain
• 34:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: or some damaged, you know, neural pathways, or whatever the fuck it is, and your brain is fabricating these scenarios.
• 35:03
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's equally as terrifying a thought as making contact with an interdimensional being.
• 35:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because on one hand, this is fucked, and on the other hand, your brain is literally lying to you and you can't discern that at all.
• 35:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think as we get older, we're programmed to try to debunk the paranormal.
• 35:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Of course, because it's outside of the realm of normalcy you've got to try to make normal of the paranormal and I feel like that that Really muddies the water when it comes to experiences because you're constantly trying to look for a natural explanation to things that are supernatural And that's what I'm saying like like If you can't prove it to me on paper You can't show me the evidence Like look Steve
• 35:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is, there's a damaged section of your brain.
• 35:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: And that's what's causing these misfires and these hallucinations.
• 36:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: If you can't do something to that equivalent, I'm not fucking believing you.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 36:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think that's what I mean.
• 36:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: You got to fucking straight up prove it to me because outside of that I believe I'm a sound mind and that's all matters.
• 36:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 36:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: And still I still had an inkling of that because she knew
• 36:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Sure, some of these things may not be rational explain, rationally explained, but she did know she still had evidence on film.
• 36:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So every once in a while, she would borrow a projector.
• 36:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: She would look back at her orbs, borrow a projector, look back at her orbs.
• 36:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Finally, in 1968, Stella bought her own top of the line Bell and Hal projector.
• 36:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: This new piece of technology allowed her to slow down the eight millimeter footage she had shot on that night in 1967.
• 36:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: And she got a slow mo.
• 36:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, to where she could stop it.
• 36:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Like, she could slow it down to two frames per second and pause it frame by frame.
• 37:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that's when she noticed images she had failed to notice before the right object.
• 37:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: She had filmed on that road contained a few frames.
• 37:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: and which appeared a glowing rectangular bar in the center of the big wide orb.
• 37:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: This particular bar almost looked as if it were a window within one of these orbs.
• 37:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Within the window, she notices the head and torso of four men, not aliens, not graze, not reptoids,
• 37:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: human Caucasian men.
• 37:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: They appeared to be looking back at Stella as she was observing them.
• 37:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: One appeared to have a beard and mustache.
• 37:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: The other one, a simple go-t. One looked to be wearing a white undershirt and the other appeared to have some sort of military outfit on.
• 38:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: The men moved in the frames.
• 38:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: So they were actually moving in the orb while she was filming it.
• 38:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's fucking bizarre.
• 38:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
• 38:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: It makes zero sense.
• 38:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's right about that.
• 38:32
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
• 38:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's confusing as fuck.
• 38:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because it kind of does lead creations at that point that there is something
• 38:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: to be able to move it down that slow and, you know, witnessed that.
• 38:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was another theory that maybe these were time travelers.
• 38:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's still a habit that happened to just pick Stella out of 300 million people to specifically observe and maybe like test her reactions to what she was seeing.
• 39:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: But it's also weird because like I feel like
• 39:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: Whatever, these things are, whatever.
• 39:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like there's an ulterior motive to let her observe it.
• 39:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: They want her to interact and observe this.
• 39:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm wondering, did, did they bank on her going this deep to where she locks in that they're behind this?
• 39:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?
• 39:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 39:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Now she's bought.
• 39:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: She's still doing the work.
• 39:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Even after being labeled as crazy.
• 39:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: She still went back.
• 39:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Still went back and did her due diligence, trying out different projectors until she got top of the line.
• 39:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Once she got the top of the line, which may not have even been out by then by the time she recorded it, now she catches on to whatever the
• 40:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: situations that like we're kind of getting into there about them wanting her to watch.
• 40:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you asked the day and to space her to go this far.
• 40:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if they, they want, they just wanted to see how far a normal person winning, witnessing this could go.
• 40:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: Because maybe maybe
• 40:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: paranoid schizophrenia, you know, you're not job do and they want, they want him to tell her that to see if it's wiser, to see if she recommits to the belief, to see what they can get away with and what they can't get away with.
• 40:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 40:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, see if she just accepted the fact that she was crazy.
• 40:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 40:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 40:57
  [UNKNOWN]: Yeah.
• 40:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: All right.
• 41:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: They meant a period appeared to be talking to each
• 41:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: For some reason, believe that the men emerged from some type of craft, she later is quoted saying, I never saw the people when filming it.
• 41:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell you what object they came out of or what they were in.
• 41:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: I thought they must have come from the soft white object that was hovering while I was filming.
• 41:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: According to Stella, this white craft hovered above her throughout the filming.
• 41:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: The four strange men she captured, she would begin to call the occupants.
• 41:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: they appeared again to be looking down at Stella while she was filming them, like they were acknowledging her, which is also crazy because they would have to be in whatever this is, in real time unless it was some sort of maybe like, um, holographic kind of thing that they're observing through or some shit, I don't know, bonkers.
• 41:55
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of things that could happen there, I mean, you could be
• 42:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: previous time, you know, I don't know.
• 42:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's bizarre.
• 42:11
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking bizarre.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 42:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And again, Stella noted that these could not be seen at normal speed.
• 42:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: They had to be significantly slowed down and checked out to even be able to see the forms within the orb.
• 42:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: a strange, vertical line appeared throughout the film in regular intervals.
• 42:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was too uniform to be a scratch, but too repetitive and deliberate to be dismissed as any kind of like weird film artifact.
• 42:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was almost as if it was some sort of energy taking place while the film was being recorded.
• 42:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was also a series of orange glowing orbs above the window
• 42:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: in an almost arc pattern, kind of like a boomerang shape, suggesting that there was some sort of structure above the window itself.
• 43:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: The men, as it was studied, showed signs of what's called lateral compression, which is an effect that happens when something is viewed or videotaped through curved glass, like looking through a window.
• 43:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Um, so was this evidence that Stella was being watched by something beyond our knowledge?
• 43:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or was it just film artifacts and light flares as skeptics would say?
• 43:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: Keep in mind, Stella was not the one to develop the film.
• 43:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: She took it to this, this, uh, university and had them develop the film.
• 43:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: She also had no monetary resource or knowledge to manipulate or fake these things on film.
• 43:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: She also wasn't a grifter.
• 43:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't like seek fame and fortune for these images.
• 43:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: But along this time, she has kept it to herself, shows her family, and a very few close friends.
• 44:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Around this time, in late 1968, Stella was listening to the radio, and there was a radio show, kind of a precursor to Art Bell, called John Longnabel Radio, where he was a host where they would talk about French topics, supernatural things, and she happened to tune into one on UFOs.
• 44:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: this really picked her interest.
• 44:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: So then she started looking into UFO conferences on the East Coast.
• 44:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: In April of 1969, she took her film to a UFO conference in New York City and then a symposium later that year.
• 44:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: She began to attend these conferences regularly and continued seeing and filming the strange lights.
• 44:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: By 1970, the film's featuring mysterious lights had changed to also include strange geometric structures imposed on them.
• 44:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of them had peculiar clock-like patterns that also started to appear in her films and photographs.
• 45:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was almost like the, if you look at them, you can find all these pictures online.
• 45:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: throughout her film, almost like a clock, like you have nine and three and 12 and six, and whatnot, and they were marked through her film on these different images for things that she wasn't, like she wasn't seeing them visibly, but as she would take the pictures, they would show up when they would develop the film.
• 45:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: These structures, geometric structures, began to show themselves on six different cameras.
• 45:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Once she took it with one camera, she thought maybe it's the camera.
• 45:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: So she switched it, not once, not twice, but six different times.
• 45:53
  [SPEAKER_00]: And they still showed up.
• 45:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: She also used multiple different types of film.
• 45:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: They still all showed up.
• 46:01
  [SPEAKER_00]: Different takes, different angles still showed up.
• 46:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Pictures indoors, they showed up, pictures outdoors, they showed up.
• 46:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: She even went and filmed in five different states.
• 46:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: even more interesting.
• 46:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: The geographic patterns began to overlay the film itself.
• 46:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: They would overlap the frames of her footage, start on one, and finish on another.
• 46:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: And multiple different
• 46:33
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, it's almost like they're sending a hidden message of like, hey, doopding, I need you to put these together.
• 46:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's crazy.
• 46:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can see the strip of film with the geometric shapes on them.
• 46:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: And like there'll be one picture of an airplane she took and the next one will be of the airplane in different position.
• 46:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: But this thing has cut through the two different pictures
• 47:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: It feels like it has intent, like it's doing it on purpose.
• 47:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 47:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 47:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But to what end I have no clue, I've never heard anything like that before ever.
• 47:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Not to mention, I love how smart she's being by the same time.
• 47:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: And she probably did, and I'm just taking the way credit, but like the magnitude
• 47:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: That should weigh on your brain at some point.
• 47:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like why the fuck am I able to see these things as much as I can?
• 47:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 47:42
  [SPEAKER_02]: This is crazy.
• 47:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is crazy.
• 47:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which it does.
• 47:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It does make you reconsider that maybe these things, maybe people can't manifest them, but maybe these things lock on to very specific people.
• 48:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: to where it's such a regular occurrence that it feels like manifestation.
• 48:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because I want to, like one of my questions, I was going to ask is for her, and this be in link to say C.E.E.
• 48:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Five, what's her catalyst?
• 48:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: What causes that consciousness connection?
• 48:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 48:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: She didn't her daughter.
• 48:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Her daughter had posted in the comments of one of the websites ghost theory, and she posted in the comments that her mom had always been interested in the paranormal and the occult and stuff like that.
• 48:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: She began to think the daughter began to think that this, her being interested in the cult in the occult made her mom more susceptible to these things because the daughter thought that these things were demonic.
• 49:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: which is a pretty common belief.
• 49:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 49:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
• 49:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it could be, I didn't find any other catalyst outside of that comment that was posted that she had been interested in the paranormal and kind of like you stare into the dark that darkness tears back, you know?
• 49:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: But I didn't say that that's an appropriate answer, though.
• 49:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Nothing I could find like was there an abduction scenario when she was young or anything like that.
• 49:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't find anything like that.
• 49:32
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was just that she had like an interest in the supernatural and then this stuff started happening.
• 49:40
  [SPEAKER_02]: And even when you were talking about it earlier, I had this image pop up in my head of like, which I know you don't, you won't necessarily get it, but of like the idea of the matrix.
• 49:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: And because you have the matrix itself where people are living inside this simulation, but outside in the real world they're laying in pods, you know, being harvested essentially, he makes me wonder like in this case in particular, what if there, what if there's something
• 50:25
  [SPEAKER_02]: What if the catalyst, what if the, the whole thing behind it is, oh, this one will just for lack of better words, this one is awake, this one has a welcome.
• 50:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Why has this one a welcome?
• 50:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got it.
• 50:47
  [SPEAKER_02]: You know, because if you think about it,
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: There's a lot of people.
• 50:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's not a full proof theory here, but the majority of people on the planet operate an NPC style path, so to speak, and they don't, they have fuck all of encounters.
• 51:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or maybe one day they see something, but they're bringing them, please just shuts it off.
• 51:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or they're told their schizophrenia.
• 51:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Or they're told their schizophrenia.
• 51:20
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's weird thought that I had though, you know, the idea of maybe they monitor people that become aware and either observe them or maybe have maybe attempt to usher the because that that made me think of another question, is there like it's kind of a foolish thought, but is there anybody out there that has had an encounter.
• 51:50
  [SPEAKER_02]: only to like have a hard reset on their life.
• 51:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I witnessed my going ball in this guy, Seanawitnesses it, and then for whatever reason something happens and my brain completely erases it.
• 52:08
  [SPEAKER_02]: It never happened to me.
• 52:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: I'm reset back into the matrix.
• 52:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then you would never know.
• 52:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: You would never know.
• 52:15
  [SPEAKER_02]: Unless for whatever reason, it didn't reset for Sean.
• 52:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: It only reset for me.
• 52:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 52:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 52:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: And and are these ones that like are these ones that are remembered?
• 52:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Are they failed experiments?
• 52:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: You know, like what if the ones that we don't remember the successful ones?
• 52:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: Right.
• 52:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Which is terrifying.
• 52:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.
• 52:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
• 52:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: So the the anomalies on film,
• 52:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: We're studied by lifetime photographers and film analysts experts and they will state that these things like these anomalies should not exist on film.
• 52:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: They just should not happen.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: They should.
• 52:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Those people also see the talking people.
• 53:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
• 53:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That would be interesting to get others opinions on seeing these figures inside the door.
• 53:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: And you have to keep in mind that the 8 millimeter camera didn't had no capability of recording sounds.
• 53:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it was just silent film.
• 53:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Keep that in mind when we get toward the end.
• 53:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because it gets weird.
• 53:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: It gets weird.
• 53:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Estella's kind of making her way through these conferences.
• 53:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: In 71, she attends a UFO conference and shared her story with a man by the name of Dr. birthled Eric Schwartz.
• 53:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Schwartz met Stella.
• 53:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: In 1971, he already had built a large following
• 53:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Schwartz was a psychiatrist with a keen interest in spirituality, UFO, UFOology, and the paranormal.
• 54:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was a well-rounded researcher and as Schwartz had just finished his lecture, a friend introduced him to Stella.
• 54:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: She set there and poured out her story to Dr. Schwartz, who then upon hearing Stella's story and had seen the evidence she had brought on film,
• 54:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: kind of had him stay there longer and examine the evidence.
• 54:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Schwartz says, I spent the time in the auditoring listening to one of the most unusual accounts of alleged repeated close UFO contacts that I'd ever heard.
• 54:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: On the surface,
• 54:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: There was extraordinary, or the accounts were extraordinary, if not preposterous, experiences involving strange little men, voices appearing out of nowhere, creatures, loss of consciousness, electric shock from a shimmering figure, a gaping hole in the ice, a craft possibly surfacing from underwater,
• 54:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately, as I learned later, Miss Lansing kept meticulous records of all of her experiences.
• 55:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: So there's even experiences that I couldn't find, like the little footprints in the religious symbols, which was only noted by Dr. Lansing in some of his notes.
• 55:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Not Dr. Lansing, Dr. Schwartz.
• 55:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: He went on to conduct several extensive medical and physical and neurological examinations on lancing before he would even move forward with investigating her paranormal claims.
• 55:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to make sure that this wasn't some sort of, again, psychosis.
• 55:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: I love the, like, not only she took that approach, but he's also taking that approach like this.
• 55:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Like, we're acknowledging that something completely fucked is going on, but, but let's run the gambit here, check all the boxes, then we'll get into the weird shit.
• 55:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 56:00
  [SPEAKER_02]: Let's rule out what we can rule out.
• 56:02
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to go look at the unknown, which is the way an investigation should be done.
• 56:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: So as after he did all of the, all of the test, he stated that Stella for all, you know, reasoning was physically normal, neurotically intact, and she also showed no signs of engaging in deceit.
• 56:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: She was being truthful.
• 56:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: This went completely against what her psychiatric evaluation in 1967 said.
• 56:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Whereas mentioned earlier, pay roll, yeah, which is mentioned earlier.
• 56:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: During her stay, the doctor in charge of her case diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, suggesting that her hallucinations had resulted in her sightings of UFOs.
• 56:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Far from being crazy, this diagnosis highlighted that Stella was quite normal, given the years of bizarre experiences that she had.
• 56:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go to ghost theory.com here and kind of read from what they have from Dr. Schwartz.
• 57:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, Dr. Schwartz.
• 57:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: First exam in Stella, he performed physical examination, a neurological examination, as well as an electro
• 57:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: Incephalogenic and EEG exam, her central nervous system also checked out fine, Stella Pastor examinations with flying colors.
• 57:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, when the psychiatric session began, Dr. Schwartz learned the extent of Stella's claim of the abnormal activity that followed her.
• 57:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella told the doctor that in 1967, six years after initially coming in contact with the strange lights, that she had checked herself into a state hospital.
• 57:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for years, the sightings of the unidentified flying objects and strange beings had began to take a toll on Stella.
• 57:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: She admitted to the hospital that she was under the care of the hospital's director of clinical psychiatry.
• 57:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: Under his examination, the doctor labeled Stella as a paranoid schizophrenia who suffered from hallucinations about seeing UFO crafts.
• 57:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Although not overly religious, Stella spoke of strange communications where she had received telepathically about supposed UFO communications from Beel's above, aka the devil himself.
• 58:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella stayed under the doctor's care for an initial 10 days before checking herself out.
• 58:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, not a month later, she had returned to the hospital.
• 58:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: This time checking in for five weeks total.
• 58:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: I missed that part.
• 58:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: She completed her treatment and was released on the basis that she had no further reoccurrences.
• 58:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was Dr. Schwartz who believed that Stella could have gone into a temporary psychosis brought on by the phenomenon she was experiencing.
• 58:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Although Stella was a Roman Catholic during her stay in the hospital, she was never described as someone who's overly pious.
• 58:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: In fact, she rarely talked about religion or scriptures of any kind.
• 58:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: This was just Stella's mind, or was this just Stella's mind trying to make sense of the voices images and visitation that had plagued her for years?
• 58:56
  [SPEAKER_02]: Well, I mean at a certain point, I feel like anybody is going to start to crack under that pressure because at a certain like,
• 59:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: I feel like a lot of people, like even in our genre are going to find it crazy and cool at first and scary.
• 59:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: But eventually it gets to a point where you just want to be left the fuck alone.
• 59:17
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 59:18
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then that's whenever everything weighs on you also.
• 59:22
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's really, it's really weird that
• 59:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: My episode, I kind of, we kind of touched on the CE5 thing, but at the same time, I'm also finding you very bizarre that we had the conversation we did and then we're doing this for two reasons.
• 59:46
  [SPEAKER_02]: One, in the first Manson episode we did, we learned that Manson read a book essentially about like Martians
• 59:59
  [SPEAKER_02]: fuel his theology even though or philosophy or whatever, even though it wasn't about alien aliens, but it's also weird that we covered that section where dude had the satanic ritual at the airbase,
• 1:00:29
  [SPEAKER_02]: one of his famous lines, I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devil's work.
• 1:00:35
  [SPEAKER_02]: And then you just said that line about B.L.s above, literally the devil, I'm like, that's a fucking weird connection.
• 1:00:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: And it's almost like, maybe there's an underlying narrative that's trying to be spun throughout the phenomena.
• 1:00:54
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's also into that point, to that point.
• 1:01:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It may be out there and I may be jumping the gun.
• 1:01:05
  [SPEAKER_02]: I find it very interesting that some of the research you were unable to find were the religious symbols that appeared.
• 1:01:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:01:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: I just weird.
• 1:01:16
  [SPEAKER_02]: I find that pretty fucking interesting.
• 1:01:18
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's weird.
• 1:01:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to try to get a hold of Dr. Schwartz's notes.
• 1:01:23
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'd be so.
• 1:01:24
  [SPEAKER_00]: Or even all, well,
• 1:01:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm jumping there going here anyway, but all of Stella's evidence was tossed out after she died.
• 1:01:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Some of my choice.
• 1:01:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: Her daughter got into it in that comment.
• 1:01:44
  [SPEAKER_00]: She left this huge long coming in one of these posts.
• 1:01:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: And let me see if I can find where she talks about it.
• 1:01:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I was like, oh, man, you gotta be kidding me.
• 1:02:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: That makes me feel a type of way.
• 1:02:04
  [SPEAKER_02]: That makes me feel like high probability somebody made or get rid of it.
• 1:02:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: This, as far as I know, this is a quote from the comment that her daughter left.
• 1:02:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: quote, as far as I know, all of my mother's films, which were interspersed with films of myself, and my children and other family members were thrown out, and unless the Russian men felt inspired to pull them out and look for them themselves, then they are at rest in the Palmer Town dump, and they have been there since August of 2012, even before my poor mother died.
• 1:02:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: So she knew exactly when they were pitched, which is weird, but it's also weird that was she the one that threw the shit away?
• 1:02:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, it says Richard took over the estate and did what he wanted not caring about me or my siblings, only himself.
• 1:03:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: So it's almost like maybe, I don't know who the rushing guys are.
• 1:03:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: She's talking
• 1:03:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let me keep looking here.
• 1:03:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: But that wait that obviously suggests some of the else was looking for the fucking tapes this says I was Okay, my mother, however, it should be known was
• 1:03:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: was keenly religious in her youngest years and loved Jesus with all her heart.
• 1:03:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Did not choose, but she did not choose to attend Catholic Church.
• 1:03:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: She prayed on her own and loved doing good deeds for others.
• 1:03:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: Once wrote a beautiful poem at 16 about Jesus Christ, which was unfortunately thrown out when my older brother was throwing out almost everything that she owned.
• 1:03:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: I will...
• 1:03:51
  [SPEAKER_00]: I was to get her films, but when my brother Robert was trying to pack them, so I could pick them up.
• 1:03:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: My older brother Richard, in a rage, told Robert, no, now you can't have them, and she can't either, so I want you to throw them in the dumpster out there.
• 1:04:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Richard had rented three long, large gigantic dumpster and paid two Russian men to take anything they wanted from my mother's antique shop and house, so I couldn't have anything.
• 1:04:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: He was so hateful toward me at the time, and I know he did he was probably possessed.
• 1:04:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: So, I don't know, it feels a little weird.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:04:26
  [SPEAKER_02]: That whole situation feels a little weird.
• 1:04:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
• 1:04:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: And that was you guys can read the whole thing if you go to ghost theory.com and look up.
• 1:04:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me see what the name of the article is.
• 1:04:38
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella Lansing photographs from Beyond.
• 1:04:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the information that I found cited this specific website, because it's this story is almost 10 years old.
• 1:04:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's also a bunch of nice or good pictures and drawings that Stella had put up that you can find.
• 1:04:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm just going to finish out the episode reading from this website because there ain't a whole lot left.
• 1:05:04
  [SPEAKER_00]: Where am I at?
• 1:05:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: For the past decade, Stella kept meticulous records of encounters with the strange phenomena.
• 1:05:10
  [SPEAKER_00]: She kept journals of times and dates when she saw the bright lights and strange creatures.
• 1:05:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: In one instance, Stella claimed that her entire left hand had suffered some type of paralytic
• 1:05:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Schwartz began with a treasure trove, which was Stella's films, the spools of the film, which depicts strange blurry flashes of light zooming through the sky, or more interesting, the images of strange out-of-place structures or things.
• 1:05:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: There's an example of a picture of Stella, just to, it would be what we consider a selfie, but someone took a picture of her face.
• 1:05:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: Here are two self-portraits of Stella or it's two self-portraits that Stella took just seconds apart.
• 1:05:55
  [SPEAKER_00]: She claimed that a strange lesion became visible in only one of the frames.
• 1:05:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can see it.
• 1:06:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: It looks like some weird sort of weird growth right on the side of her eye.
• 1:06:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: And in the frame right after it, it's not there.
• 1:06:10
  [SPEAKER_02]: As bizarre.
• 1:06:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's it's weird.
• 1:06:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: This all culminated on April 15, 1971 when Dr. Schwartz Stella Lansing and a lady friend of Stella's all drove down to the spot and mass a choosage in which Stella claimed to have many of her encounters.
• 1:06:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming it's on Flint Street where two of them take took place.
• 1:06:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: The trio drove to a secluded area, killed the engine in the headlights and stepped out of the vehicle, into the silence still of the night.
• 1:06:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Within minutes, two yellowish glowing disc works seen up in the sky.
• 1:06:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: The objects appeared to glide silently alongside of each other, often times merging into themselves before splitting up again.
• 1:06:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: They watched the lights uninterrupted for quite some time.
• 1:06:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is again, kind of remind you of the blood so crisp blood so taking
• 1:06:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: So I was going to say, this is a blood cell before blood cell and it also reminds you of some of the evidence coming out in the congressional hearings of these orbs splitting apart and zooming back together and splitting apart and becoming one again, you know 60 something years before the congressional hearings or any of this other evidence was even was even found.
• 1:07:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: as the street back to the story, as the three observed the craft they were completely unaware of an approaching black car that had its headlights off.
• 1:07:28
  [SPEAKER_00]: The car stopped about a hundred feet from where the three stood and suddenly it blasted its high beams in their direction.
• 1:07:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: That was hear the shit out of me.
• 1:07:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yes, this is taken directly out of an article from
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  [SPEAKER_00]: While Mrs. Lansing and I were filming these strange lights and automobiles suddenly seem to appear out of nowhere, it stops approximately one to 200 feet ahead of our car.
• 1:07:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: We were shocked to see its headlight illuminate our dark area and then flicker alternately left, right, left, right.
• 1:08:07
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's normal.
• 1:08:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: The lights were moving independently of one another.
• 1:08:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's fucking crazy.
• 1:08:12
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:08:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And vice versa in a manner reminiscent of a semifore signal.
• 1:08:17
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what a semifore signal is.
• 1:08:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: But then they would dim out into a pink, soft glow and then come on again at the height of the excitement, the lady friend of Stella's panic and screamed for us to get back in the car, which we did.
• 1:08:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Fortunately, I photographed most of this bizarre incident.
• 1:08:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: And for several film frames, the flaming disc
• 1:08:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: above and then just over the glaring headlights of the mysterious car.
• 1:08:43
  [SPEAKER_00]: The latter part of the event was filmed from the interior of Miss Lansing's car and showed reflections from a windshield.
• 1:08:50
  [SPEAKER_00]: The mysterious car then suddenly turned on its lights, started its engine up and barreled past us at great speed, because of the blinding headlights we could not make out the license plate, but the automobile seemed rather large.
• 1:09:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: probably several years old this time.
• 1:09:08
  [SPEAKER_00]: The mystery car was noisy and sounded as if it's muffler was defective.
• 1:09:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was impossible to see if there were any occupants in the car.
• 1:09:16
  [SPEAKER_00]: So that's crazy shit.
• 1:09:19
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely.
• 1:09:21
  [SPEAKER_02]: Did those scare the shit out of me?
• 1:09:23
  [SPEAKER_02]: Dude, I don't know what has scared me more.
• 1:09:27
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's the third, that's the third time that we know of, that is still observing, observing the Orbs, that these black cars show up.
• 1:09:37
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's gotta be men and black.
• 1:09:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, his headlights work like that.
• 1:09:41
  [SPEAKER_02]: The men and black.
• 1:09:44
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fucking alien headlights.
• 1:09:46
  [SPEAKER_00]: That's so bonkers that we wrote.
• 1:09:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so crazy.
• 1:09:51
  [SPEAKER_02]: Fuck me up.
• 1:09:53
  [SPEAKER_02]: I think I legitimately think I would be more afraid of the car.
• 1:09:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
• 1:09:58
  [SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, Stella's already interacted with the lights.
• 1:09:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what those views are going to do.
• 1:10:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
• 1:10:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: That particular incident that night, led Dr. Schwartz to believe that something unexplainable was happening to Stella.
• 1:10:09
  [SPEAKER_00]: It was in no way cleverly done hoax, since the distant UFO lights had no way of being projected into the night sky.
• 1:10:15
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dr. Schwartz even refuted claims by many, that they were subjects of a mass hallucination.
• 1:10:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: An explanation that has often used to explain multiple witnesses seeing the same phenomena.
• 1:10:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: An impossible hypothesis since there exists
• 1:10:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: more anomalies less answers.
• 1:10:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is coming directly from the Ghost Theory website.
• 1:10:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: Go check it out.
• 1:10:40
  [SPEAKER_00]: As a scientific community began hearing about Dr. Schwartz's research into Stella Lansing's phenomenon, the interest in her abilities grew.
• 1:10:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: Many researchers tried to explain the bizarre photographs of crafts, lights, and clock-like patterns infused in Stella's film as technical glitches that somehow lighted filtered into the camera causing anomalies.
• 1:10:59
  [SPEAKER_00]: They also entertain the idea that her 8mm film had been superimposed, something that would not have been easy to do at the time.
• 1:11:07
  [SPEAKER_00]: However, not one of them ever managed to prove exactly how Stella captured those images or were able to recreate it.
• 1:11:12
  [SPEAKER_00]: They were also not able to explain how these images appeared on different types of film with different types of cameras, all showing the same patterns and ghostly images.
• 1:11:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella never regressed to the state of mind she was in 1967 when she checked into the state hospital.
• 1:11:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: After the psychiatric health from Dr. Schwartz, she managed to keep her head together and continue her exploration into the phenomena that surrounded her.
• 1:11:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: This is where it gets strange.
• 1:11:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't until 1991 that the television shows sightings got a hold of Stella and Dr. Schwartz and ran the lengthy and concise segment on the phenomena.
• 1:11:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: During the show's investigation, the ex-ported, or they exported, Stella's silent eight millimeter film of the occupants onto VHS.
• 1:11:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: when they did this, as they played the exported silent film, investigators were shocked to hear indistinguishable voices on the film.
• 1:12:09
  [SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Ha ha ha ha.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: Hmm.
• 1:12:13
  [SPEAKER_02]: I mean, but it does, it does fit the bill because they were somehow put in fuckin' secret symbols in the video.
• 1:12:20
  [SPEAKER_00]: Dude, how crazy is that?
• 1:12:24
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's like, at that point, it's working on its own rules.
• 1:12:28
  [SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah, whatever that thing is, has its own set of rules, and we don't know what the fuck they are.
• 1:12:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's so crazy.
• 1:12:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Since then, since the sightings episode came out where they played the actual audio,
• 1:12:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: that was captured, which is creepy.
• 1:12:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we'll be able to add it to this or not because I'll probably get flagged, but you guys can find the specific audio of Stella on the sidings episode on YouTube.
• 1:12:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: People have slowed it down to where they're making out one specific word from the the indistinguishable words and it's the word faster.
• 1:13:03
  [SPEAKER_00]: Almost like they knew they were being seen and they were trying to get the fuck out of there.
• 1:13:14
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is, it is bonkers, bro.
• 1:13:19
  [SPEAKER_00]: So Stella continued to jot down the dates and notes every time she had an unnerving experience.
• 1:13:25
  [SPEAKER_00]: Curiosity would turn into obsession and Stella Lansing passed away in 2012.
• 1:13:29
  [SPEAKER_00]: Never knowing the truth behind her haunted phenomena.
• 1:13:34
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you check out the Ghost Theory website, they have a link to the sidings episode, which if I remember, I will also post up in the socials, where people can watch it.
• 1:13:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can see some of the pictures.
• 1:13:48
  [SPEAKER_00]: You can hear some of the audio to kind of back up.
• 1:13:52
  [SPEAKER_00]: The thing Stella was experiencing.
• 1:13:56
  [SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
• 1:13:57
  [SPEAKER_02]: That's wild, dude.
• 1:13:58
  [SPEAKER_02]: It really does, though, genuinely.
• 1:14:01
  [SPEAKER_02]: It makes me think the blood cell before blood cell.
• 1:14:05
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of, it kind of makes you like, it almost leans into maybe, you know, these specifically chosen people are being manipulated by something from beyond.
• 1:14:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: And the fact that they both have religious connotations to it is also bizarre.
• 1:14:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
• 1:14:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: So crazy.
• 1:14:34
  [SPEAKER_02]: I agree.
• 1:14:36
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's fucking weird, it does dope ass story.
• 1:14:41
  [SPEAKER_00]: It is weird.
• 1:14:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I'll have to admit.
• 1:14:43
  [SPEAKER_02]: It's even, it's kind of like, unnervingly awesome that there was no real solution to the black vehicle that kept poppin poppin poppin
• 1:14:54
  [SPEAKER_00]: No, and I'm wondering if it's the same black vehicle every time because I wasn't specifically stated, but it's almost inferred that the same black sedan showed up, which they would have to have previous knowledge of these things showing up and still a being there, which means they may be the puppet masters of everything that's going on.
• 1:15:21
  [SPEAKER_00]: because you can't tell me they're just gonna sit out there along the side of the road for Stella to show up and then also for the UFO to show up.
• 1:15:30
  [SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know, but it's awesome.
• 1:15:36
  [SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
• 1:15:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: I had a whole bunch of different sources.
• 1:15:39
  [SPEAKER_00]: I used Wikipedia to get information on the blackout.
• 1:15:42
  [SPEAKER_00]: I used Ghost Theory, who did an excellent write-up on Stella's encounters.
• 1:15:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: A lot of the other, I used Futurism.com, but a lot of these also used Ghost Theory as a source.
• 1:16:00
  [SPEAKER_00]: you can find Stella's sightings episode on YouTube under the channel called the 8th Tower.
• 1:16:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: Again, I'll share that if I can remember.
• 1:16:13
  [SPEAKER_00]: And there was another YouTube channel that I discovered that just ran the Stella episode, which as I was perusing, I found it, which got me interested in it.
• 1:16:31
  [SPEAKER_00]: Let me look, just to make sure they get some credit there.
• 1:16:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that website, or that YouTube page is called Val Arcana.
• 1:16:47
  [SPEAKER_00]: V-E-L-A-R-C-A-N-A.
• 1:16:49
  [SPEAKER_00]: They do have a husband wife team that go into a lot of weird paranormal.
• 1:16:57
  [SPEAKER_00]: Different things, so go check them out as well.
• 1:17:02
  [SPEAKER_00]: And on that note, Hello Colt, that's what I have for today.
• 1:17:06
  [SPEAKER_00]: Stella and her images from the other side.
• 1:17:11
  [SPEAKER_00]: If anybody has any kind of thoughts, theories, suggestions on what was going on, how this links in to C.E.
• 1:17:22
  [SPEAKER_00]: five of today into Greer studies into the blood zones.
• 1:17:26
  [SPEAKER_00]: Make sure you comment, leave us, leave us things.
• 1:17:30
  [SPEAKER_00]: Tell us what you think.
• 1:17:33
  [SPEAKER_00]: So on that note, thanks for hanging out with us.
• 1:17:35
  [SPEAKER_00]: Hope everybody's Monday's going, is going good.
• 1:17:37
  [SPEAKER_00]: Everybody survived the snowstorm, stay safe, stay weird.
• 1:17:45
  [SPEAKER_00]: And just remember, you never know when you could be chosen to be the next contact E. If you do, you need to be like Stella and meticulously report all that shit.