Latest / Hell and Gone: Murder Line / Hell and Gone Murder Line: KK's Corner Part 3
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- 1:28Speaker 2: On July sixth, nineteen ninety seven, in Calcashu Parish, Louisiana,
- 1:33Speaker 2: Marty Lebeuf, Stacy Reeves, and Nicole Guildry were all shot
- 1:37Speaker 2: execution style in the head. Their bodies were left in
- 1:40Speaker 2: the cooler at kk's Corner. These at kk's Corner were shocking,
- 1:46Speaker 2: and soon people were talking about another death, one that
- 1:50Speaker 2: some people in the community thought could be linked.
- 1:53Speaker 3: To the kk's Corner massacre.
- 1:56Speaker 2: On Saturday May seventeenth, nineteen ninety seven, not even three
- 1:59Speaker 2: weeks before the triple homicide at kk's corner. Kevin Abel
- 2:04Speaker 2: was fatally shot in the head at his home. Police
- 2:07Speaker 2: ruled Kevin's death a suicide, but Stacy Reeves, who had
- 2:10Speaker 2: been dating Kevin, believed that he had been murdered and
- 2:14Speaker 2: that his murder could be tied to law enforcement and
- 2:17Speaker 2: possibly to allege drug deals at Kk's corner. Stacy Reeves
- 2:22Speaker 2: arrived at that crime scene at Kevin's with her young
- 2:25Speaker 2: twin daughters only minutes after.
- 2:27Speaker 3: Police showed up there.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Stacey told police she and Kevin were going on a
- 2:31Speaker 2: date that night and that she had been planning to
- 2:34Speaker 2: pick him up with her girls. And she said that
- 2:37Speaker 2: Kevin owed a lot of money to drug dealers, who
- 2:40Speaker 2: she said had been taking his truck as collateral. We
- 2:44Speaker 2: talked to one of Stacy's friends, the former sheriff's deputy.
- 2:47Speaker 2: We have her full name, but because of concerns about
- 2:51Speaker 2: her safety, she has asked that we call her by
- 2:53Speaker 2: her nickname Missy.
- 2:56Speaker 4: She was coming to kick him up with her twins,
- 2:58Speaker 4: who are I think two at the time, they were
- 3:01Speaker 4: really young. For she insisted that she would never have
- 3:04Speaker 4: permitted suicide, knowing that she had the Beady.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Who's with him. What really happened to Kevin Abel? Did
- 3:11Speaker 2: he kill himself or could there have been foul play involved?
- 3:15Speaker 2: Who were the drug dealers who he owed money to?
- 3:18Speaker 2: And did Kevin's death have anything to do with the
- 3:21Speaker 2: kk's Corner killings. I'm Catherine Townsend. Over the past five
- 3:25Speaker 2: years of making my true crime podcast, Helen Gone, I've
- 3:29Speaker 2: learned that there's no such thing as a small town
- 3:31Speaker 2: where murder never happens. I've received hundreds of messages from
- 3:35Speaker 2: people all around the country asking for help with an
- 3:38Speaker 2: unsolved murder that's affected them, their families, and their communities.
- 3:43Speaker 2: If you have a case you'd like me and my
- 3:45Speaker 2: team to look into, you can reach out to us
- 3:47Speaker 2: at our Helen Gone Murder Line at six seven eight
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- 4:03Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. We got a copy
- 4:48Speaker 2: of the incident report and some civil depositions, and between
- 4:52Speaker 2: those and some interviews we've done, we have found out
- 4:55Speaker 2: a lot of information about the night that Kevin Abel died. Now,
- 4:59Speaker 2: before I go down this road, I just want to
- 5:02Speaker 2: say that so far, none of the evidence that we
- 5:05Speaker 2: have seen has indicated that Kevin Abel's death was anything
- 5:08Speaker 2: other than a suicide. But a lot of people, including
- 5:12Speaker 2: Stacy Reeves, believe that it was, and we want.
- 5:15Speaker 3: To understand why.
- 5:17Speaker 2: On the day he died, Kevin had a friend at
- 5:20Speaker 2: his house, a guy named Chad Reeves. Now Chad was
- 5:24Speaker 2: a distant cousin of Stacy's, but according to what Chad
- 5:27Speaker 2: told police, they were not close. Chad wasn't even sure
- 5:31Speaker 2: exactly how they were related. When police asked him, Chad
- 5:35Speaker 2: said that he had reconnected with Kevin the night before
- 5:38Speaker 2: at a bar called Cheers. He had known Kevin when
- 5:41Speaker 2: they were younger, but prior to that, he told investigators,
- 5:44Speaker 2: they had not spoken in eight years. Lake Charles has
- 5:47Speaker 2: a population of almost eighty thousand people, but I see
- 5:50Speaker 2: a lot of the same names keep popping up, so
- 5:53Speaker 2: parts of it seemed to have a distinctly small town vibe.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Chad lived with his mother in Fairview Estates, the same
- 6:01Speaker 2: trailer park as Kevin. He told police that he went
- 6:05Speaker 2: over to Kevin's trailer that afternoon because Kevin was feeling down.
- 6:09Speaker 2: Chad said they were hanging out there watching TV and talking.
- 6:13Speaker 2: In a later deposition, Chad said that Kevin looked like
- 6:17Speaker 2: shit that day. He also said Kevin had been smoking
- 6:20Speaker 2: crack for days, which had turned his lips black. While
- 6:25Speaker 2: they were hanging out, Kevin got a phone call from someone.
- 6:28Speaker 2: Chad said that quote whoever it was must have had
- 6:32Speaker 2: Kevin's car, because Kevin got very mad with them over
- 6:35Speaker 2: the phone and asked them when they were going to
- 6:37Speaker 2: bring his car back.
- 6:39Speaker 3: End quote.
- 6:40Speaker 2: Then Chad said after Kevin hung up, Kevin had asked
- 6:44Speaker 2: him how to spell the word quit. Chad said he
- 6:47Speaker 2: spelled it out for him qu i t. After that,
- 6:51Speaker 2: he said that a woman called Kevin, and Kevin told
- 6:53Speaker 2: the woman that he was depressed and to come pick
- 6:55Speaker 2: him up. I don't know for sure, but it seems
- 6:59Speaker 2: likely that that woman was Stacy Reeves, since Stacy did
- 7:03Speaker 2: show up there and she said that they were planning
- 7:04Speaker 2: on having a date that night. After that, Kevin went
- 7:08Speaker 2: to the back of the trailer toward his bedroom.
- 7:11Speaker 3: Time went by, the movie.
- 7:12Speaker 2: Ended, and Chad said that he yelled to Kevin that
- 7:15Speaker 2: he was going back to his mother's trailer to get
- 7:17Speaker 2: something to eat. Chad was in the front doorway, putting
- 7:21Speaker 2: his shoes on, getting ready to leave. When he heard
- 7:23Speaker 2: the gunshot, Chad ran into the bedroom. He said that
- 7:27Speaker 2: he saw Kevin lying there and grabbed him to try
- 7:30Speaker 2: to check on him, but he said he could see
- 7:32Speaker 2: that he was in a pool of blood and that
- 7:34Speaker 2: he was clearly dead. Chad said he ran back to
- 7:38Speaker 2: his mother's house and called nine one one. Police came
- 7:41Speaker 2: to the scene, and they found Kevin in his bedroom
- 7:44Speaker 2: with his head facing north and a fatal gunshot wound
- 7:47Speaker 2: to his head. There was a three fifty seven magnum
- 7:50Speaker 2: revolver lying about twelve inches from Kevin's left foot. There
- 7:54Speaker 2: was a bullet hole in the wall and a TV
- 7:56Speaker 2: on top of Kevin's chest. Police believed that Kevin fired
- 8:01Speaker 2: the fatal shot and then he fell back onto the
- 8:04Speaker 2: TV stand. That's when they say he crashed to the
- 8:07Speaker 2: ground and the television kind of toppled on top of him.
- 8:10Speaker 2: Police found cocaine residue in a chrome pipe and gunpowder
- 8:14Speaker 2: residue on Kevin's hands that police said indicated that the
- 8:18Speaker 2: gun had been fired by him recently. They also found
- 8:21Speaker 2: a suicide note nearby. We got a copy of that note.
- 8:26Speaker 2: It read in part quote, this is something I did
- 8:29Speaker 2: because I couldn't face the real world being a crackhead.
- 8:32Speaker 3: End quote.
- 8:33Speaker 2: In the note, Kevin apologized to people in his life
- 8:36Speaker 2: for not being able to get off drugs. He mentioned
- 8:39Speaker 2: former girlfriends and friends and people he felt that he
- 8:42Speaker 2: had let down. At the end, it says, PS, if
- 8:46Speaker 2: I have a funeral, play the dance he was talking about,
- 8:50Speaker 2: the Garth Brooks country song. Police found that Kevin had
- 8:54Speaker 2: a heavy crack addiction and then he owed money to
- 8:57Speaker 2: two people, Irving and David Freeman. They're actually cousins, but
- 9:02Speaker 2: people around town refer to them as the Freeman brothers.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Irving told police that he sold crack to Kevin on
- 9:08Speaker 2: a regular basis. He said that he would take Kevin's
- 9:11Speaker 2: truck as collateral to make sure that Kevin paid back
- 9:14Speaker 2: the money that he owed. Irving told police that Kevin
- 9:18Speaker 2: was pretty much his best customer. He said that Kevin
- 9:21Speaker 2: would chain smoke rocks of crack like other people smoked cigarettes.
- 9:25Speaker 2: He said that Kevin regularly owed him large amounts of money,
- 9:28Speaker 2: from around fifteen to seventeen hundred dollars at a time
- 9:32Speaker 2: while Irving had the truck. David Irving's cousin told police
- 9:36Speaker 2: that he would sometimes borrow the truck as well. He
- 9:39Speaker 2: would just borrow it from Irving without getting Kevin's permission.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Sometimes Stacy Reeves would pay Kevin's drug debts. Once she
- 9:49Speaker 2: paid David five hundred dollars. Later, David told police about
- 9:53Speaker 2: a strange incident that happened with Kevin's truck. He said
- 9:56Speaker 2: that a police officer showed up at his house once
- 9:59Speaker 2: while he was borrowing Kevin's truck, and that the police
- 10:02Speaker 2: officer demanded that he give it back. Police talked to
- 10:06Speaker 2: this officer, the one who showed up at David's house.
- 10:08Speaker 2: It was a Lake Charles police officer. So this officer
- 10:12Speaker 2: said he was friends with Jennifer Doyle, a woman who
- 10:15Speaker 2: was also dating Kevin at the time. The officer said
- 10:19Speaker 2: sometime in the beginning of April in nineteen ninety seven,
- 10:22Speaker 2: he went to Jennifer Doyle's house and that Jennifer got
- 10:25Speaker 2: a phone call from David. David was asking Jennifer for money.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Money.
- 10:30Speaker 2: He said that Kevin owed him, so the officer got
- 10:33Speaker 2: Jennifer to hand him the phone. When he identified himself
- 10:36Speaker 2: to David as a police officer, David hung up. The
- 10:39Speaker 2: officer said that when he was at work the next
- 10:41Speaker 2: day that Jennifer called him and asked if he would
- 10:44Speaker 2: go with her to help get Kevin's truck back. So
- 10:48Speaker 2: the officer said he went with Jennifer to David's place
- 10:51Speaker 2: and knocked on David's door. A woman answered the door
- 10:54Speaker 2: and said David wasn't there, So the officer said they
- 10:57Speaker 2: were there to get Kevin's truck. The woman said the
- 10:59Speaker 2: keys were in it, so the officer said he got
- 11:02Speaker 2: into Jennifer's vehicle and drove it back to the police
- 11:04Speaker 2: station while Jennifer drove Kevin's truck. The officer said Jennifer
- 11:09Speaker 2: drove away in Kevin's truck and that he wasn't sure
- 11:11Speaker 2: what happened to the vehicle after that. To me, this
- 11:15Speaker 2: illustrates a couple of things about how things work in
- 11:18Speaker 2: Lake Charles. The fact that a lot of these drug dealers,
- 11:21Speaker 2: police and people connected to drug addicts were all intimately
- 11:25Speaker 2: connected number one, and number two, that sometimes police would
- 11:30Speaker 2: do things to settle disputes that weren't necessarily officially reported.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Because to my knowledge, there was never a stolen vehicle
- 11:38Speaker 2: report made on this truck. This all apparently happened off
- 11:41Speaker 2: the books, and the officer didn't tell anyone about this
- 11:44Speaker 2: truck incident until much.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Later after Kevin Abel's death.
- 11:48Speaker 2: But as we said last week, Stacey believed that Kevin
- 11:53Speaker 2: had been murdered. Stacy Reeves was convinced that Kevin Abel
- 12:02Speaker 2: had not committed suicide. Her friend Missy, talked to us
- 12:06Speaker 2: about what Stacy told her about Kevin's death. Missy said
- 12:11Speaker 2: that Stacy didn't think the suicide note was legitimate.
- 12:15Speaker 4: Stacey contacted me when Kevin quote unquote committed suicide. She
- 12:22Speaker 4: told me he didn't commit suicide. It was all a
- 12:25Speaker 4: lie because he hated country music and in the suicide
- 12:29Speaker 4: note it was referenced to country music. I think one
- 12:32Speaker 4: of Gurth books was songs. And also the note was
- 12:36Speaker 4: written in the opposite hand that she did not write it,
- 12:39Speaker 4: so she was emotionally just strawed or not.
- 12:45Speaker 2: In the weeks before her death, Stacy was talking to
- 12:48Speaker 2: people about how she didn't think Kevin committed suicide, and
- 12:51Speaker 2: also about drug deals that she said were going down
- 12:55Speaker 2: in Kk's corner. She said that Kevin owed people drug money,
- 12:59Speaker 2: a lot of money. Stacy seemed to believe that Kevin's
- 13:04Speaker 2: death might have been murdered and that it might have
- 13:07Speaker 2: something to do with drug dealers who were operating inside
- 13:10Speaker 2: kk's corner, and Stacy had been talking to law enforcement
- 13:15Speaker 2: about her suspicions. According to police documents, Stacy's friend, Sheila,
- 13:20Speaker 2: told police that Stacy had recently met with two officers
- 13:23Speaker 2: and talked to him about her fear that her involvement
- 13:26Speaker 2: in Kevin's drug dealing could put her in danger. She
- 13:29Speaker 2: was talking to them about drug deals going on inside
- 13:32Speaker 2: kk's corner. She told them she wanted to work for
- 13:35Speaker 2: the Sheriff's department. One was an officer named Jerome Lestraps.
- 13:41Speaker 2: The other was an Officer Sweeney, but police said they
- 13:46Speaker 2: were unable to locate anyone with that name, so we've
- 13:49Speaker 2: started looking for officer Sweeney. After the kk's murders, Detective
- 13:55Speaker 2: Deluge was looking into these rumors that Stacy could have
- 13:58Speaker 2: been talking to people in law enforcement. Detective Deluge knew
- 14:01Speaker 2: that Jerome less Straps worked narcotics for the calcashu Perras
- 14:05Speaker 2: Sheriff's Department, so he contacted the chief of detectives there,
- 14:09Speaker 2: John Fryar. He asked if Stacy was a confidential informant
- 14:12Speaker 2: for anyone. John said, to his knowledge, Stacy never provided
- 14:17Speaker 2: intel to any of his officers. But later, according to
- 14:20Speaker 2: court documents, Jeromeless Straps said that he had talked to
- 14:24Speaker 2: Stacy about working undercover with the Sheriff's office. He said
- 14:29Speaker 2: when she told him about people dealing drugs and her
- 14:33Speaker 2: suspicion that his death was not a homicide, jerome Le
- 14:36Speaker 2: Strap said he advised Stacy that because she had two
- 14:40Speaker 2: young daughters, this type of work might be dangerous for her.
- 14:43Speaker 2: He said that he told her if she had information
- 14:46Speaker 2: about Kevin's death, that she should get in touch with
- 14:48Speaker 2: a detective in charge of that investigation. We found out
- 14:52Speaker 2: something else, potentially more evidence that the men who came
- 14:57Speaker 2: to the store that night, the ones who Virginia saw
- 14:59Speaker 2: in the black car, may have been targeting Stacy, because
- 15:04Speaker 2: there are things about Stacy's murder that were different from
- 15:07Speaker 2: Marty and Nicole. Now, these differences might not mean anything.
- 15:11Speaker 2: On the other hand, they could be important clues. Marty
- 15:14Speaker 2: and Nicole were both shot in the back of the head.
- 15:17Speaker 2: Stacy was shot in the face. She was also shot
- 15:21Speaker 2: once in the back of the head, but that was
- 15:23Speaker 2: only after her head was turned around from the first shot,
- 15:27Speaker 2: so Stacy was the only one who faced her killer.
- 15:31Speaker 2: We also learned more details about Virginia Johnson, the witness.
- 15:35Speaker 2: She testified that the men she saw that night at
- 15:39Speaker 2: Kk's were there for Stacy. Remember, Virginia went to care
- 15:44Speaker 2: Corner on July fifth. She arrived there at about eleven
- 15:46Speaker 2: forty five pm to get gas. She went in and
- 15:49Speaker 2: bought ten dollars worth of gas from Marty. At that time,
- 15:52Speaker 2: she said, Stacy was mopping up and closing the store.
- 15:55Speaker 2: Nicole was sitting on the counter. While Virginia was in
- 15:58Speaker 2: the store. A black car pulled up to the side entrance.
- 16:02Speaker 2: One man came into the store. He walked straight back
- 16:05Speaker 2: toward the beer coolers. The other one bumped into Virginia
- 16:08Speaker 2: as she was walking out to her car. That's the
- 16:11Speaker 2: guy who she described for the first composite drawing, and
- 16:14Speaker 2: later under hypnosis she remembered more details about the second man.
- 16:19Speaker 2: She later identified Tomas Cisco in a lineup. So we
- 16:23Speaker 2: know all that, But we got a transcript of the
- 16:26Speaker 2: testimony that Virginia gave at Tomasisko's murder trial. She testified
- 16:31Speaker 2: that as she was walking out of Kk's, she heard
- 16:34Speaker 2: Marty and Nicole talking about the guys that came in.
- 16:37Speaker 2: She said she heard Marty say, well, they're here for her,
- 16:42Speaker 2: meaning that the two two men were there for Stacy.
- 16:46Speaker 2: This would presumably mean that the two men were people
- 16:50Speaker 2: who the employees knew and felt comfortable enough letting into
- 16:53Speaker 2: the store after closing. So why were these two men
- 16:57Speaker 2: there for Stacy? These murders happened within a small window
- 17:03Speaker 2: of time. Marty Lebuff drove a green and tan nineteen
- 17:07Speaker 2: eighty seven Ford Bronco. Stacy drove a brown nineteen eighty
- 17:11Speaker 2: six Buick Skylark. Both of those vehicles were parked at
- 17:14Speaker 2: kk's corner all night. Virginia said the car she saw
- 17:18Speaker 2: pull up to Kk's while she was paying for gas
- 17:20Speaker 2: was a sporty, black two door late eighties vehicle similar
- 17:24Speaker 2: to a Chevrolet Spectrum. She said the truck that she
- 17:27Speaker 2: saw was a red mid sized pickup truck. After leaving
- 17:31Speaker 2: kk's corner, Virginia picked her boyfriend up at work. They
- 17:36Speaker 2: both told investigators they drove back past kk's corner. The
- 17:39Speaker 2: boyfriend remembers they were having a conversation about kk's. He
- 17:43Speaker 2: said he glanced down at the clock in his truck.
- 17:46Speaker 2: It said twelve forty two, but it was ten minutes fast,
- 17:49Speaker 2: so it was actually twelve thirty two at that time.
- 17:52Speaker 2: At twelve thirty two am, they saw that black car
- 17:56Speaker 2: still there and a red truck with a passenger door open.
- 18:00Speaker 2: The store was closed, but the lights inside the store
- 18:03Speaker 2: were still on, which Virginia told police she believed was odd.
- 18:06Speaker 2: She made a comment to her boyfriend that maybe someone
- 18:09Speaker 2: could be robbing the store, but her boyfriend said, all right,
- 18:12Speaker 2: girl whatever. From what she told police, it sounded like
- 18:16Speaker 2: he wasn't taking her too seriously, and so they went home.
- 18:21Speaker 2: Someone else saw the truck too, because a few minutes
- 18:24Speaker 2: before that, another woman who later talked to police, said
- 18:28Speaker 2: she drove through the kk's parking lot at around twelve
- 18:31Speaker 2: fifteen am. She also noticed the red truck and the
- 18:34Speaker 2: black car in the parking lot.
- 18:36Speaker 3: There were a lot.
- 18:37Speaker 2: Of people going into and out of this parking lot
- 18:40Speaker 2: that night. This was a busy store in a busy area.
- 18:44Speaker 2: Deputy Terry Gillery, who found the bodies in the cooler
- 18:47Speaker 2: the next morning, was also on duty the night of
- 18:50Speaker 2: July fifth.
- 18:51Speaker 3: He said that he had driven through the parking lot.
- 18:53Speaker 2: At around eleven PM, he said he saw Stacy behind
- 18:56Speaker 2: the counter and waved at her. Later, at around one
- 18:59Speaker 2: thirty am, the man who folded the morning papers was
- 19:03Speaker 2: in the parking lot. By that time, the black car
- 19:06Speaker 2: and the truck were gone. At two am, Terry Gillery
- 19:10Speaker 2: passed by again he saw the guy who folded the
- 19:12Speaker 2: morning papers in the parking lot. He noticed that Stacy
- 19:15Speaker 2: and Marty's vehicles were still parked there. So whatever happened
- 19:19Speaker 2: at Kk's Corner, it started after Virginia left the store
- 19:23Speaker 2: and after Marty's dad called at midnight to tell him
- 19:27Speaker 2: he had to plate a barbecue left out for him.
- 19:30Speaker 2: Whatever happened happened fast, because at twelve oh six am, Sherwood,
- 19:34Speaker 2: carpenter at the assistant manager, called the store.
- 19:37Speaker 3: He said the phone kept ringing.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Sherwood says that when no one answered, he figured the
- 19:42Speaker 2: employees had already gone home. Stacey, Marty and Nicole were
- 19:47Speaker 2: almost certainly dead in the cooler by then.
- 19:51Speaker 3: So what happened during that crucial few minutes.
- 19:55Speaker 2: We talked to Kenny Klin, the owner of Kk's Corner,
- 19:58Speaker 2: who the initials are named for.
- 20:00Speaker 5: He said, you know, I don't want you to touch anything.
- 20:02Speaker 3: I just want you to tell me what you see.
- 20:04Speaker 5: So then when I walked in the store, eventually, when
- 20:07Speaker 5: I got to the back room where I saw that
- 20:10Speaker 5: Stacey and Marty did their shift report, which is the
- 20:12Speaker 5: paperwork that you do when the shift is over. As
- 20:14Speaker 5: soon as I saw that they had done their shift report,
- 20:17Speaker 5: I told Lucky Lush I said the store was closed.
- 20:21Speaker 5: And he looked at me and he said, what do
- 20:22Speaker 5: you mean. I said, because Stacey and Marty sometimes they
- 20:26Speaker 5: might cheat a little bit. They were experienced a poison.
- 20:28Speaker 5: They knew I would allow it. They may have, you know,
- 20:31Speaker 5: let you say the store, the store closed at midnight.
- 20:34Speaker 5: You know, maybe they might do their paperwork at ten
- 20:36Speaker 5: minutes to midnight, maybe five minutes, just assuming not another
- 20:38Speaker 5: customer will come in. And if another customer would come
- 20:41Speaker 5: in and spend maybe three or four dollars, said they
- 20:42Speaker 5: would just let the next based cash. You're ringing that up,
- 20:45Speaker 5: just as they could get out of there in a
- 20:46Speaker 5: timely manner. So, had they done exactly what they're supposed
- 20:49Speaker 5: to do, which is closed at midnight, do their paperwork,
- 20:53Speaker 5: you don't do the paperwork to You're almost certain that
- 20:55Speaker 5: the stores closed. So when I saw that, I said, well,
- 20:58Speaker 5: you know they had to let somebody in.
- 21:01Speaker 2: One of the registers, register too, was closed out at
- 21:04Speaker 2: eleven PM. The other register, register one was closed out
- 21:08Speaker 2: at midnight after closing the store, and the Z tape
- 21:12Speaker 2: was still attached to the register. So that was strange,
- 21:15Speaker 2: Kenny said, because what was supposed to happen was that
- 21:18Speaker 2: the employees would detach the Z tape from the register
- 21:21Speaker 2: and then they would go into the office to finish
- 21:23Speaker 2: completing their report.
- 21:25Speaker 3: They would check to.
- 21:26Speaker 2: See whether they came up short, whether everything was reconciled,
- 21:29Speaker 2: whether the math worked, how.
- 21:31Speaker 3: Much money was made, et cetera.
- 21:33Speaker 2: Then the employee would finish up in the office, bring
- 21:36Speaker 2: the clipboard back out, and put the Z tape under
- 21:39Speaker 2: the clipboard. So is it was my understanding from reading
- 21:42Speaker 2: that that what happened was the employee would they'd cash
- 21:45Speaker 2: out the register and excuse me if I don't get
- 21:48Speaker 2: the terminology right, But then the receipt would print out
- 21:50Speaker 2: and they were supposed to take it to the back office,
- 21:52Speaker 2: run the numbers, and then come back and put this
- 21:55Speaker 2: put it back on a clipboard.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Is that right? Oh, they would do that in the
- 21:58Speaker 3: back room.
- 21:58Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. When I went to the back.
- 22:00Speaker 3: A Z tape just closed out the day.
- 22:01Speaker 5: God, we ran two we ran two ships, the day ship,
- 22:04Speaker 5: and then at night when we closed, they would run
- 22:06Speaker 5: a Z tape which clears.
- 22:07Speaker 3: Everything out for that day. I see.
- 22:09Speaker 5: And then what they would do is they would take
- 22:11Speaker 5: that tape and let's just for an even amount of money.
- 22:13Speaker 5: Let's just say they did a thousand dollars in sales.
- 22:15Speaker 5: Then they would take everything out of their drawer and
- 22:18Speaker 5: let's just say they start to shift for two hundred dollars,
- 22:20Speaker 5: they would they would put the two hundred dollars back
- 22:22Speaker 5: in the drawer, and then they should have one thousand dollars.
- 22:24Speaker 5: It should balance and they would count one thousand dollars.
- 22:27Speaker 5: They would put that in an envelope, put it down
- 22:29Speaker 5: the safe. There were two slots in the safe. They
- 22:31Speaker 5: would put that down the safe. Then they would take
- 22:34Speaker 5: their Z tape. Then they would and there was a
- 22:35Speaker 5: clipboard in the back, and they would write down there.
- 22:38Speaker 5: I guess, for lack of a better word, to shift reconciliation.
- 22:42Speaker 2: Kenny said, it appears as though Stacy was interrupted in
- 22:45Speaker 2: the middle of this process. This made him believe the
- 22:48Speaker 2: store had been closed, Stacey closed out the register, and then,
- 22:52Speaker 2: for whatever reason, maybe because Stacey and Marty were comfortable
- 22:56Speaker 2: with the people who came in after closing, they let
- 22:58Speaker 2: them stay. It seems as though they were completing their
- 23:02Speaker 2: routine task right before they were interrupted. The very last
- 23:06Speaker 2: thing that employees were supposed to do after reconciling the
- 23:09Speaker 2: registers and cleaning was to punch in their individual four
- 23:13Speaker 2: digit code to set the alarm, and then manually locked
- 23:16Speaker 2: the doors.
- 23:17Speaker 3: As they leave.
- 23:18Speaker 2: But as we've said before, that alarm was never set.
- 23:22Speaker 2: There were a total of four phones in and around
- 23:24Speaker 2: the store, Kenny Klein's personal phone in his private office,
- 23:28Speaker 2: a store phone at the front desk, and two payphones outside.
- 23:32Speaker 2: The lines to the two payphones in Kenny's private phone
- 23:35Speaker 2: had all been cut, leaving only the counterphone untouched. So
- 23:40Speaker 2: one natural question to ask, and one that it seems
- 23:43Speaker 2: the police did ask, is if anyone had quit the
- 23:46Speaker 2: store recently or had an issue with anyone at the store.
- 23:50Speaker 2: There was someone who had quit a few weeks before
- 23:52Speaker 2: the murders, Nathaniel Gobert, who stole money on credit cards.
- 23:57Speaker 2: Nathaniel had called Stacy and asked her if he could
- 24:00Speaker 2: come back in. She said that if he did come
- 24:02Speaker 2: back in, they would have to call the sheriff's department.
- 24:05Speaker 2: But police talked to Nathaniel and he had an alibi,
- 24:08Speaker 2: And it turns out that someone else did quit very
- 24:11Speaker 2: suddenly the day before the murders, Miles Addison. Now we
- 24:15Speaker 2: had heard this name before. We had heard that Miles
- 24:18Speaker 2: Addison called in sick and that that's why Marty was
- 24:21Speaker 2: working that night.
- 24:22Speaker 3: But it turns out Miles didn't just call in sick.
- 24:25Speaker 3: He quit.
- 24:27Speaker 2: Kenny Klein told law enforcement Miles had been working at
- 24:30Speaker 2: kk's corner for between four and six weeks when he quit.
- 24:34Speaker 2: Miles later told police that he called at two thirty
- 24:37Speaker 2: pm on July fourth, thirty minutes before his shift started.
- 24:42Speaker 2: He told an employee that he was tired of working
- 24:44Speaker 2: till midnight and that if he kept having to work
- 24:46Speaker 2: till midnight that he would quit. He said it was
- 24:48Speaker 2: the fourth of July weekend and then he wanted to
- 24:51Speaker 2: go out and party.
- 24:52Speaker 3: Miles normally worked three pm to midnight.
- 24:55Speaker 2: He was scheduled to work on Saturday, but after he quit,
- 24:59Speaker 2: Marty took his shift at twelve oh six am on
- 25:03Speaker 2: July sixth, Sherwood Carpenter, the manager of Kk's, called the
- 25:06Speaker 2: store because the alarm had not been set. No one answered,
- 25:10Speaker 2: so the killers probably came into Kk's corner right before
- 25:14Speaker 2: midnight and a few minutes later everyone was dead. They
- 25:18Speaker 2: cut the phone lines, kicked down the door to the office,
- 25:20Speaker 2: and robbed the money out.
- 25:21Speaker 3: Of the safe.
- 25:22Speaker 2: They pulled the VHS tape out of the VCR that
- 25:24Speaker 2: was recording the security camera footage, and they left. The
- 25:28Speaker 2: store's owner, Kenny Klin, confirmed that the tapes in the
- 25:31Speaker 2: store were labeled one through thirty one, one for each
- 25:35Speaker 2: day of the month, and all of the other tapes
- 25:38Speaker 2: were still on the shelf. Only the surveillance video from
- 25:41Speaker 2: that night, tape number five, July fifth, was taken. And
- 25:46Speaker 2: even though Deputy Deluge said that there was no physical
- 25:49Speaker 2: evidence in this case, it turned out there were some
- 25:52Speaker 2: things left behind. Police found eight nine millimeters shell casings
- 25:57Speaker 2: and six bullets. They also found hairs on the bodies.
- 26:01Speaker 2: These hares were tested and they did not match Tomas
- 26:05Speaker 2: Cisco's hair, but according to court documents, police did not
- 26:09Speaker 2: test any other suspects. The defense attorneys specifically asked about
- 26:13Speaker 2: Miles Adison, Richard mclvin, and another man. Police admitted they
- 26:17Speaker 2: didn't test any of these people. Police looked through the
- 26:21Speaker 2: surveillance tapes they were trying to see if they could
- 26:23Speaker 2: see anything suspicious. They only had thirty days worth of tapes.
- 26:27Speaker 2: After thirty days they were recorded over and when they
- 26:31Speaker 2: looked through the tapes, they found that even though it
- 26:33Speaker 2: was store policy for the doors to be locked at
- 26:36Speaker 2: twelve am, in practice that did not always happen. They
- 26:41Speaker 2: hit another roadblock though, when they tried to figure out
- 26:43Speaker 2: as someone had been casing the store of the day before,
- 26:46Speaker 2: because the tape for July fourth was there, but it
- 26:50Speaker 2: turned out it hadn't been updated. Another employee said on
- 26:54Speaker 2: the day before the murders, because Miles Addison had quit
- 26:57Speaker 2: so suddenly and she was scrambling to find a replacement
- 27:00Speaker 2: for him, she forgot to put in the surveillance tape
- 27:03Speaker 2: that day.
- 27:04Speaker 3: But what about the other physical evidence?
- 27:07Speaker 2: Police found a cigarette inside the cooler near Nicole's body.
- 27:12Speaker 2: It was partially burned down, like it had been partially smoked.
- 27:17Speaker 2: So what happened to that evidence? We still don't know
- 27:28Speaker 2: what happened to some of the evidence that was found
- 27:30Speaker 2: at the scene. We are still pouring through civil lawsuits
- 27:34Speaker 2: and other Foyer request to try and figure out what
- 27:38Speaker 2: happened to it. A lawsuit filed by Stacy Reeves's family
- 27:42Speaker 2: alleged that Stacy's life life was in danger, that Stacy
- 27:45Speaker 2: believed the death of Kevin Abel, who was described as
- 27:48Speaker 2: her boyfriend, had been falsely ruled a suicide, and that
- 27:53Speaker 2: Stacy had reported certain individuals who were involved with drug
- 27:56Speaker 2: trafficking to the police. That because of that situation, her
- 28:01Speaker 2: life was in danger, and that the police failed to
- 28:03Speaker 2: protect her, and Stacy believed that Sheriff Wayne Mcalvin's son,
- 28:09Speaker 2: Richard was involved. Remember Sheriff Wayne Mcalvin held a press
- 28:13Speaker 2: conference and said he would hunt down anyone who spread
- 28:16Speaker 2: untrue rumors about his son, Richard Mcalvin, who once again
- 28:20Speaker 2: has been cleared by law enforcement. At that same press conference,
- 28:25Speaker 2: Richard Mcalvin said he didn't know any of the victims,
- 28:28Speaker 2: but Stacy's friend, Missy, said that Richard and Stacy definitely
- 28:32Speaker 2: knew each other.
- 28:34Speaker 4: This was years before all this drama happened, and she
- 28:38Speaker 4: introduced me to Richard Mcalvin and Kevin Abel and they left,
- 28:44Speaker 4: and she said you know who that was? And I
- 28:46Speaker 4: said no. She goes, that was your boss's son, and
- 28:49Speaker 4: I told I made a joke. I said, safety, I
- 28:51Speaker 4: got a tone of bosses. What's the boss you're talking about.
- 28:54Speaker 4: She said, oh, the main boss, Cheff mcklvin's son. And
- 28:58Speaker 4: I said, oh, okay, And I kind of brushed it
- 29:01Speaker 4: off because it didn't matter to me.
- 29:03Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the reporting on kk's Corner
- 29:07Speaker 2: has been focused on two people, Richard mcelvin and Thomas Cisco.
- 29:11Speaker 2: But what if neither of them were involved? Was there
- 29:15Speaker 2: anyone else who police were looking at early the investigation,
- 29:18Speaker 2: anyone else who would have had a reason to hurt
- 29:21Speaker 2: Stacy or to rob kk's Corner. There was someone else
- 29:25Speaker 2: who police believed could have been the second gunman, A
- 29:28Speaker 2: man named Chris, who had lived with Thomas Cisco at
- 29:31Speaker 2: one point, was an early suspect.
- 29:34Speaker 3: The former district.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Attorney Rick Bryant said that, in his opinion, Chris looked
- 29:39Speaker 2: like the composite drawing, but he said that Chris had
- 29:42Speaker 2: an alibi. Police questioned the employee who quit kk's Corner,
- 29:47Speaker 2: Miles Addison, several times. On July eighth, Miles Addison took
- 29:52Speaker 2: a polygraph test and he failed it. Miles gave a
- 29:57Speaker 2: videotape statement he completely denied having anything to do with
- 30:00Speaker 2: or any knowledge of the killings at kk's corner. They
- 30:04Speaker 2: talked to Miles Addison's mother, who told police at first
- 30:07Speaker 2: that Miles had come home in the early morning hours
- 30:09Speaker 2: of July six, but apparently later said she wasn't sure
- 30:13Speaker 2: exactly when he came home that night, or if he
- 30:15Speaker 2: came home at all. Later, when police talked to Miles,
- 30:18Speaker 2: he told detectives he had talked to his mom about
- 30:20Speaker 2: what she said. Apparently she was sleepy when she talked
- 30:24Speaker 2: to the officers and she was wrong about him not
- 30:26Speaker 2: coming home. Miles said that on Saturday, July fifth, he
- 30:30Speaker 2: got up at around two pm. He went to visit
- 30:32Speaker 2: some downstairs neighbors. They watched TV and smoke some pot.
- 30:35Speaker 2: That went on until about nine pm.
- 30:37Speaker 3: He said.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Three friends of his showed up and they went riding
- 30:40Speaker 2: around for a little while. Then they dropped him back
- 30:42Speaker 2: at his apartment complex, and a few minutes later a
- 30:45Speaker 2: friend of his name Mike, showed up with two women,
- 30:47Speaker 2: Nicole and Sarah. He said the four of them went
- 30:51Speaker 2: to eat at a place called Checkers. They were riding
- 30:53Speaker 2: around smoking pot, stopped by a convenience.
- 30:55Speaker 3: Story to get some cigarettes and candy.
- 30:57Speaker 2: He said that they dropped him off back at his
- 31:00Speaker 2: place at around eleven forty five pm.
- 31:02Speaker 3: Detectives spoke to the other three people.
- 31:05Speaker 2: They basically said the same thing that they showed up
- 31:07Speaker 2: to pick Miles up, rode around in smoke Pot, made
- 31:10Speaker 2: a couple of stops, and dropped him back at his
- 31:12Speaker 2: place at around eleven forty five pm. The apartment complex
- 31:16Speaker 2: where Miles lived was a little over two miles from
- 31:18Speaker 2: kk's corner, according to Google Maps, about a five minute drive.
- 31:23Speaker 2: There were also some conflicting stories from other people who
- 31:27Speaker 2: police talked to about Miles's activities on July fifth. Shane
- 31:30Speaker 2: Robinson said on July fifth, Miles came over and asked
- 31:34Speaker 2: to borrow his truck. He said that Miles left at
- 31:38Speaker 2: ten thirty pm and that he never saw him again
- 31:40Speaker 2: that night. But the way the interviews worded it doesn't
- 31:44Speaker 2: actually specify if Miles borrowed the truck and brought it
- 31:47Speaker 2: back and then left without it, or if he left
- 31:50Speaker 2: with it at ten thirty. It's very confusingly worded. Miles
- 31:54Speaker 2: did admit he knew about drug dealing at Kk's Corner.
- 31:58Speaker 2: He admitted to investigators during the time he worked there
- 32:00Speaker 2: that he stole cigarettes and dealt drugs. He said he
- 32:03Speaker 2: dealt LSD, pot and cocaine. He said Marty sometimes sold
- 32:07Speaker 2: drugs out of the store as well. Miles also admitted
- 32:11Speaker 2: he let his friends come in and steal merchandise from
- 32:13Speaker 2: the store. He said he would also sometimes let them
- 32:16Speaker 2: buy stuff but undercharge them for it. Miles Addison failed
- 32:21Speaker 2: three different light detector tests. The questions that he failed,
- 32:24Speaker 2: according to law enforcement documents, were whether he had knowledge
- 32:28Speaker 2: of the events at kk's Corner, whether he knew who
- 32:31Speaker 2: had committed the murders, and whether he was present at
- 32:34Speaker 2: the time of the murders.
- 32:36Speaker 3: Again, he denied.
- 32:38Speaker 2: Yet anything to do with these murders or any knowledge
- 32:40Speaker 2: of them, and he was never charged in connection with them.
- 32:44Speaker 2: And honestly, I don't even know if police were being
- 32:47Speaker 2: straight with him when they told him which questions he failed.
- 32:50Speaker 3: We know they're allowed to lie to people.
- 32:53Speaker 2: We have reached out to Miles Addison, but after some
- 32:56Speaker 2: initial questions, he declined to answer any more and appeared
- 33:00Speaker 2: to block our number. Next week in our final KKs
- 33:04Speaker 2: Corner episode. We're going to take a look at the
- 33:06Speaker 2: trial documents, specifically the closing arguments, and get details on
- 33:11Speaker 2: which officers Stacy Reeves was meeting with regularly in the
- 33:14Speaker 2: last weeks of her life. And we're going to try
- 33:17Speaker 2: to find out what happened to that physical evidence, who
- 33:21Speaker 2: was smoking that burnout cigarette in the cooler on the
- 33:24Speaker 2: night three people were brutally murdered.
- 33:27Speaker 3: I'm Catherine Townsend.
- 33:29Speaker 2: This is Helen Gone Murder Line. Helen Gone Murder Line
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- 33:37Speaker 2: It's written and narrated by me Catherine Townsend and produced
- 33:40Speaker 2: by Gabby Watts. Special thanks to Amy Tubbs for her
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