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Blue Jays land Okamoto, Imai out for WBC, The Murakami effect · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: Let's begin with big news over the weekend, Kazuma Okamoto
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  Speaker 1: and the Toronto Blue Jays hook up on a four year,
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  Speaker 1: sixty million dollar contract. Kratz surprised that the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: come up with Okamoto, the questions about his defense regard
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  Speaker 1: the outfield and even third base to an extent, it
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  Speaker 1: sounded like many teams were interested in him as a
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  Speaker 1: first baseman. The Blue Jays have a first baseman named
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  Speaker 1: Bladdie Junior. So what do you think of the move?
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  Speaker 2: Very surprised.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we talked about a different you know, could
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  Speaker 3: they go Tucker, could they go but Shet? What does
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  Speaker 3: that do to Barger? Well, obviously, now this pushes Barger
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  Speaker 3: out to right field. Barjar was a good third baseman.
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  Speaker 3: Is this new signing going to be just more added
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  Speaker 3: just more added offense, I mean, a similar offense. He
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  Speaker 3: struck out about ten percent of the clip. He dropped
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  Speaker 3: his strikeout percentage last year to from the previous season
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  Speaker 3: five percent, So that's huge. He still has slug I
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  Speaker 3: mean his ops in Japan last year in for the
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  Speaker 3: Yori Giants was over a thousand. Like this is a
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  Speaker 3: huge pickup. It just was very unexpected for me. I
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  Speaker 3: thought if they were going to go somewhere it would
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  Speaker 3: be Bashett or Tucker.
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  Speaker 1: They still can. Yeah, most Sadders are saying irrelevant. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so this is truly icing on the cake before they
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  Speaker 1: actually figure out if it's Tucker, Boschette or someone else.
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  Speaker 1: It does sound like Bregman is out of the picture. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because they do.
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  Speaker 4: Because they have Barger and they have any Clement they
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  Speaker 4: can kind of bounce around a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: And Okamoto for third. So that's too many third basement.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's Bashett to play second, maybe Short or
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  Speaker 4: Tucker in the off because they also var show in
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  Speaker 4: uh Springer free agents at the end of the year,
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  Speaker 4: so that would kind of lessen if one if those
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  Speaker 4: guys leave, So I don't think it excludes him from doing.
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  Speaker 1: Anything neither, and they needn't let any more than a
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  Speaker 1: righty bat.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, and they're feeling it.
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  Speaker 4: You know why they're feeling it because they just went
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  Speaker 4: to the World Series and they were this far from
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  Speaker 4: winning it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, excuse me, they were this far from winning
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  Speaker 2: the World Series.
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  Speaker 1: We say this a couple of times, but yeah, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of times. Their payroll was the highest it ever
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  Speaker 1: was last year and it doesn't always work out. Ask
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  Speaker 1: the Mets. But they made it five seconds away from
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  Speaker 1: winning a World Series and then they have reinvested it.
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  Speaker 1: I heard they made stupid amounts.
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  Speaker 4: I can only imagine because you saw how excited Toronto was. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: so of course they reinvested, which is huge. Yeah, they
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  Speaker 4: have the whole country. They don't have just a city.
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  Speaker 4: To have a country mind them.
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  Speaker 1: I love Okamodo the bat by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Don't worry about his defense.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 4: And one thing about the Blue Jays, they were really
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  Speaker 4: good defensively, yes, right, Well that's the other part.
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  Speaker 3: That's the other part that surprises me because their base
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  Speaker 3: is such a huge position. Defensively, yes, I get a
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  Speaker 3: shortstop is yes, Catchers, yes, center field is. And they
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  Speaker 3: have some of the best right now, even with Andre
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  Speaker 3: Semenez playing shortstop. You just think about, you know, when
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  Speaker 3: they had Matt Chapman and their and their starters had
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  Speaker 3: the lowest dra in baseball. If it's a question, which
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  Speaker 3: obviously they're like, hey, we're totally fine with it. If
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  Speaker 3: we're really good defensively everywhere else, does it come back
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  Speaker 3: to bite them because you're not gonna you're not paying
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  Speaker 3: a guy fifteen million a year. You're not have a
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  Speaker 3: four year contract to like bring a defensive third baseman in,
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know that there was necessarily one out
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  Speaker 3: on the market. It's not like Bargers won a Gold
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  Speaker 3: Glove this year. It's you know, he played right field
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  Speaker 3: and third base. It's not like Ernie Clement is gonna
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  Speaker 3: win a Silver Slugger or won a Silver Slugger this
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  Speaker 3: past year. He had a ridiculous World Series. But this
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  Speaker 3: is just an example of what we think most teams
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  Speaker 3: should do. You see a window, you don't just like
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  Speaker 3: go through the window. You smash through it, and you
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  Speaker 3: make sure you have enough offense, enough defense, enough pitching,
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  Speaker 3: everything to get back there and win and then win
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  Speaker 3: again and again.
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  Speaker 1: What's the thing that the swat team us is to
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  Speaker 1: open doors a battering ram? Yeah, they're using a battering
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  Speaker 1: ram right now to open there does home.
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  Speaker 2: No one's complaining that the Blue Jays are going to
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  Speaker 2: ruin the.
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  Speaker 1: Sport. Dodgers fans are. There's so many that government over
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  Speaker 1: that weekend, they're like, blue Jays are ruining baseball. I
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  Speaker 1: mean they're being sarcastic, tongue in cheek. They're like Blue
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  Speaker 1: Jay's ruining baseball with them actually trying this offseason. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I mean it adds significant versatility. If
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  Speaker 1: you do get an injury, you're in great shape with
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  Speaker 1: the configuration as long as they're not planning to trade anyone,
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  Speaker 1: and they theoretically will add someone like Bo, Kyle Tucker
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  Speaker 1: or someone else we're not thinking about. Also, I should
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  Speaker 1: mention there is a posting fee, so it's four year
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  Speaker 1: sixty plus about eleven mil. So it's really four years
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  Speaker 1: seventy one mil in terms of money that they're giving out.
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  Speaker 1: They'd give eleven million to his team, the Giants over
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  Speaker 1: in the MPB. But I mean again, I haven't watched
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  Speaker 1: a ton of games. I haven't watched any full games
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  Speaker 1: with him, but I've watched plenty of AB's. Actually I
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  Speaker 1: watched World Baseball Classic he was in last year. He
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  Speaker 1: homeered off or not last year, last time in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three homered off Kyle Freeland. But it's a simple swing.
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  Speaker 1: There's contact, takes, walks, has pop how much pop? Is
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  Speaker 1: it fifteen omer pop? Is it thirty homer pop? There's
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  Speaker 1: pop though, So this fits exactly what the Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: like as a hitter. It's really what everyone in baseball
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  Speaker 1: should like as a hitter. But you know how, we
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  Speaker 1: talked a lot about the Blue Jays in contact, and
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  Speaker 1: then you get the analytics crid being like, well you
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  Speaker 1: need slug too, and it's like, yeah, they had both.
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  Speaker 1: They had contact and slug. Who fits that O Komodo.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's a good signing for him. I like this signing.
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  Speaker 4: I like this signing a lot, and it gets them
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  Speaker 4: into the Japanese market, which listen, say what you want,
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  Speaker 4: but that is a big deal because they love baseball
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  Speaker 4: and they follow their players, and it brings more money
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  Speaker 4: into the organization.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, show hey, show hey.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't start this because each row was kind of the
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  Speaker 4: first big Nomo was like the first one, right, he
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  Speaker 4: came over with the tornado wind up and all that
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  Speaker 4: with the Dodgers. But then there was a little lull
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  Speaker 4: and then Eachiro hit right, and then the Mariners went
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  Speaker 4: for with Sazaki. They tried to catcher jo Jima, and
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  Speaker 4: then some other teams have tried it. The Yankees tried
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  Speaker 4: out with the Rabu and some of the Matsui right,
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  Speaker 4: but when nim Matsui ta Deki, Godzilla came over and
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  Speaker 4: next thing, you know, and Yankee steed him. There was
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  Speaker 4: signs in Japanese which you've never seen before, right, and
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  Speaker 4: the teams that have done this and done this right,
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  Speaker 4: and then Shohey just took it to another level. Yeah right,
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  Speaker 4: he just he wiped everybody off the board. But the
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  Speaker 4: teams are now starting to learn from the Dodgers. Man,
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  Speaker 4: if we can get a Japanese star, we can make money.
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  Speaker 4: Like he signed for four to sixty that's fifteen a year, okay,
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  Speaker 4: which is a lot of money. But if you think
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  Speaker 4: you get some of the Japanese sponsors behind him, and
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  Speaker 4: he does well on the Blue Jays are off the charts,
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  Speaker 4: playing well, and every Japanese TV is turned in, guess
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  Speaker 4: what that money is.
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  Speaker 2: That's nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Those contracts pay for himself. If the guy is a
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  Speaker 1: star there, and he's been a star in MPB, he's
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  Speaker 1: a name. He's probably been the most consistent hitter in
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  Speaker 1: Japan in the NPB from twenty eighteen to twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 1: the most consistent dude, and you look at like his
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  Speaker 1: you know the stat cast page that they have, I
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  Speaker 1: don't remember what it's called, but like the Baseball Smount
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  Speaker 1: they have out in MPB. He's like near ninety nine
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  Speaker 1: percent tile or whatever on almost everything. So he's a
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  Speaker 1: star out there. We'll see how that converts. I do
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  Speaker 1: want to bring in Jim Boden right now to comment
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  Speaker 1: on this hue, So let's get right to our resident
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  Speaker 1: GM because JB, I heard that you like the player,
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  Speaker 1: but you have some thoughts on this signing, so would
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  Speaker 1: you like to share them with us? Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: I like the player. I don't like the fit for Toronto.
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  Speaker 5: I don't like that they signed him. I don't like
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  Speaker 5: that they invested seventy million dollars in them. I would
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  Speaker 5: rather see this seventy million go towards Kyle Tucker or Bobaschett,
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  Speaker 5: or both.
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  Speaker 1: For that matter.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I like the player a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Why.
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  Speaker 5: I think he can hit and I think he's got
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  Speaker 5: more power than people think. So I really like the bat.
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  Speaker 5: And I think the bat fits in their blueprint, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the exact blueprint that got them to.
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  Speaker 1: The World Series.
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  Speaker 5: This guy can hit with power, and he puts the
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  Speaker 5: ball in play, he'll draw a walk. So I really
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  Speaker 5: like the player. He can't play third base, okay, he's
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  Speaker 5: a blue arts defender at third and I think one
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  Speaker 5: of the things I loved about this Toronto Blue Jay
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  Speaker 5: team last year is it was the best defensive team
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  Speaker 5: in the American League. And I love the fact that
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  Speaker 5: they could hit for average, they could hit for power,
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  Speaker 5: and they played plus plus defense all over the field.
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  Speaker 5: I think that was their calling card last year and
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  Speaker 5: I loved it. Now you have a blow average defender
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  Speaker 5: at third base. I don't I don't like that at all.
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  Speaker 5: His best position's first base. I think he's a plus
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  Speaker 5: defender at first, but Guerrero owns first base. He lives there,
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  Speaker 5: and he's only going to get to play first if
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  Speaker 5: Guerrero wants a day off or if he gets injured,
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  Speaker 5: which hopefully won't happen. And you can't dach him because
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  Speaker 5: that's George Springer has that spot and Anthony Santandera is
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  Speaker 5: waiting for that spot, and you really can't put him
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  Speaker 5: in the corner outfield. What are you going to put
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  Speaker 5: him in right with santander and left. That doesn't work
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  Speaker 5: for me defensively. So I just don't like the fit.
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  Speaker 5: I was fine with Barger and Clement at third base.
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  Speaker 5: Bring back Bashett sign Tucker. I just like that pathway better.
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  Speaker 5: But don't get me wrong, you never have enough good players.
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  Speaker 5: And if you have that extra money in Canada and
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  Speaker 5: you can be throwing seventy million dollars at a guy,
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  Speaker 5: that's best role now to me is part time first third,
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  Speaker 5: left right DH okay, but as an everyday third basement,
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  Speaker 5: I personally don't like the.
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  Speaker 3: Fit even if they sign a Tucker. Would you feel
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  Speaker 3: the same even if they sign a Tucker? And also
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  Speaker 3: from a GM standpoint, how much do you say, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we are totally defense, We're really good at defense. It's
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  Speaker 3: okay if we have a little bit below average at third,
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  Speaker 3: or do you say no chance. I'm never being an
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  Speaker 3: elite defensive team. Taking one position where I'm a little
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  Speaker 3: bit below average.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll take left field below average and I can
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  Speaker 5: live with that. And I've already got that with Santander.
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  Speaker 5: If I'm the Dodgers, I have or with too I'm
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  Speaker 5: okay with that one corner outfield spot being below I
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  Speaker 5: don't want to be below in the infield.
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  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 5: All those ground balls on the left side of the
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  Speaker 5: infield that they got to be out so they got
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  Speaker 5: to be double plays. For me, I need the range.
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  Speaker 5: I need the glove. I need the accuracy, I need
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  Speaker 5: the consistency. I believe in elite infields to win World Championships.
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  Speaker 5: Now your question about Tucker. Look, I'm a Barger guy.
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  Speaker 5: To be honest, I like him more than most people do.
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  Speaker 5: He's going to be a legit thirty home run bat.
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  Speaker 5: I'm a fan of his. And so look, if it
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  Speaker 5: ends up being Bargara and Okamoto and they're platooning at
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  Speaker 5: third base, I probably can live with that. If that's
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  Speaker 5: going to be the role. Sixty million dollars to platoon
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  Speaker 5: at third Okay, I'll buy into that. If they signed Tucker, sure,
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  Speaker 5: I feel a lot better about it. And then you
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  Speaker 5: have Clement at second with the men, is it short?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: That that that works for me. I do think Toronto
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  Speaker 5: needs another left handed hitter, and I do think Tucker
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  Speaker 5: would be the perfect fit there if they can make
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  Speaker 5: that happen too.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that was my next question.
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  Speaker 4: Doesn't this doesn't mean the Blue Jays can't sign Tucker
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  Speaker 4: if they want to correct. And also, how good can
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  Speaker 4: the Blue Jays be with the team they have right now?
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  Speaker 4: We saw they almost won the World Series last year,
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  Speaker 4: and they've added They've added they've added this offseason. Now
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  Speaker 4: they don't have Bo yet because they could possibly still
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  Speaker 4: bring him back. But One, why does this stop him
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  Speaker 4: from signing Tucker? I don't think it doesn't. Two, how
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  Speaker 4: good can this team be? Because right now on paper
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  Speaker 4: they're pretty damn good.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, their favorites to win the American League for sure.
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  Speaker 5: I'll get to that in a second. I want to
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  Speaker 5: answer your first question first. So I was told by
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  Speaker 5: the Blue Jays that this does not take them out
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  Speaker 5: of Tucker or Bashett. It takes them out of doing
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  Speaker 5: both Tucker and Bashett, but it doesn't take them out
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  Speaker 5: of doing one or the other. It does take them
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  Speaker 5: out of Alex Bregman. So they still have an opportunity
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  Speaker 5: to sign either Tucker or Bashett. I'm expecting them to
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  Speaker 5: get one of the two. Now, in terms of what
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  Speaker 5: this is meant to the team, I'm gonna focus on
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  Speaker 5: the pitching side. O Kamoto doesn't move the needle for me.
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  Speaker 5: What moves the needle for me is Dylan Cease, only
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  Speaker 5: pitcher in baseball last five years, two hundred strikeouts, thirty starts.
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  Speaker 5: What moves the needle for me is watching Cody Ponce
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  Speaker 5: on video that stuff just plays. If he lives up
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  Speaker 5: the potential, he could be one of the best undervalued
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  Speaker 5: free agents that we've seen sign this offseason. What moves
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  Speaker 5: the needle from me? Tyler Rodgers. I love the left
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  Speaker 5: handed submariner. Give me a different look in the bullpen.
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  Speaker 5: Add bullpen depth, help me improve that setup spot. Love
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  Speaker 5: that a lot. So the three pitchers they brought in
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  Speaker 5: for a team that was a half an inch away
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  Speaker 5: from winning the World Championship. That moves the needle for me.
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  Speaker 5: I think they're the team to beat in right now
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  Speaker 5: in the Al East than the team to beat in
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  Speaker 5: the league. And I think if they were able to
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  Speaker 5: sign Tucker or bring back Bashit it just puts that
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  Speaker 5: double red exclamation point we all have on our iPhones.
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  Speaker 5: It makes it more prominent.
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  Speaker 1: JB. We're gonna do a separate combo coming up in
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  Speaker 1: a second about everything else that's left on the board here,
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  Speaker 1: and there's a lot, but to wrap up the conversation
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  Speaker 1: on some of these international signings, did you feel like
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  Speaker 1: it was weird this year and that it could lead
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  Speaker 1: to some type of battle in the future between NPB
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  Speaker 1: and MLB. Okamoto actually kind of saves things because that's
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  Speaker 1: more of your standard contract. But am I can opt out,
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  Speaker 1: and I believe the posting fee would then be lessened
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  Speaker 1: at that point. Even Takahashi, who he didn't spend a
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  Speaker 1: lot of time on, ends up staying in NPB and
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  Speaker 1: he'll get opt outs, I think, in his contract over there,
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  Speaker 1: so he can then hit the marketing end here and
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  Speaker 1: not have any posting feet is as a league and
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  Speaker 1: PB's goal is to get as much money as possible
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  Speaker 1: for the players they control. It seems like they're getting
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  Speaker 1: less of that. Even with a Murakami, who's a superstar
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  Speaker 1: out there, ends up signing a two year contract that's
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  Speaker 1: a low posting fee, and then if he's good, he'll
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  Speaker 1: get his big contract without a posting fee.
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  Speaker 5: I think, Scott, it just comes down to the evaluation
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  Speaker 5: of Major League Baseball front offices on these players. Let's
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  Speaker 5: take em for a minute. You know, most of the
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  Speaker 5: teams that I talked to were really concerned about his fastball. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: it's gott velocity. A lot of teams tell me it's straight.
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  Speaker 5: They don't like the fact he can't locate it. They're
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  Speaker 5: worried about the command and control of the fastball as
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  Speaker 5: well as the life. They love the breaking stuff. I
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  Speaker 5: had several teams tell me that he's probably better suited
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  Speaker 5: for the bullpen in the back end, that that would
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  Speaker 5: probably be the best role. We can throw the break
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  Speaker 5: and ball most of the time because you know his
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  Speaker 5: split finger and slider or wipe out caliber stuff. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I talked to Joe A Spot of the manager of
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  Speaker 5: the Astros, yesterday morning. He made it very clear to
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  Speaker 5: me that they see him as a starter. Now, when
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  Speaker 5: I talk to other teams about Emi, basically what I'm
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  Speaker 5: told is, hey, he's a four starter with the ceiling
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  Speaker 5: to be a third. So I think that evaluation had
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  Speaker 5: more to do with the contract he ended up signing
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  Speaker 5: than anything else. And then with Murakami, as we've all
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  Speaker 5: talked about on this show, he has great power and
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  Speaker 5: great holes at the plate. Right, So is he Russell
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  Speaker 5: Brandon or is he more than that? How will he
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  Speaker 5: adjust to the pitching over here? No one can argue
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  Speaker 5: the power. There are some people that say is Dave Kingman?
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  Speaker 5: I say not. I say, because of his high on
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  Speaker 5: base percentage, he's going to be better than that. I
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  Speaker 5: think it's going to be a good signing for the
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  Speaker 5: White Sox, but I think best case scenario, he's a
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: two forty hitter with thirty home runs. So we'll have
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: to wait and see how they perform. And I think
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: to answer your question, Scott, how these three guys perform
• 14:47
  Speaker 5: this year along with the contracts, we'll have a lot
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: to say of what happens in the future in transactions
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: with the MPB.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: A little bit of coaching news today. Let's start with
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: don officially joining the Philadelphia Phillies coaching staff as the
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: bench coach for Rob Thompson. You like it, Kratz. We
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: talked about it a little bit, what a few weeks ago,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: and now it's official. John Hayman also pointed out that,
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: you know, he's got a long standing, great relationship with Topper,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: but also an excellent relationship with Boba Schett. That he
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: did mention that coach on the bench doesn't usually determine
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: how a nine figure free agent signing is going to
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: go down.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: I mean, does this mean that the Phillies have no
• 15:29
  Speaker 3: chance of winning the World Series because Donnie Baseball just
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: has not won it? I mean, he couldn't have come closer,
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: Like there was no tougher image than Bobashett patting Donnie
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Baseball on the back after they lost, Like, does this
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: mean the Phillies aren't gonna win? Or does this mean this?
• 15:47
  Speaker 3: Is it the years that Topper knew Donnie Baseball when
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: he was with the yank working for the Yankees, Like,
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: is this the opportunity because of the bench coach? Like,
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: let's not, let's not blow up. Let's not blow up
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: what a bench coach does. But he's going to be
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: an awesome bench coach. The fact that you have a
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: dude who probably should be managing in the big leagues.
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: You saw what he helped John Schneider do in some
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: way or fashion. I think you'll help top her too.
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: Nelson, who's the GM fairly well in Phillybi.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: No, his son isn't his son the GM?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Isn't the president?
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Forgot about that?
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: I think he has a pretty good relationship with him.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe Also they have this coincidence where they both have
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: the same last name.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: It's weird, Scott. They're trying this new thing where they
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: they work together but they have the same name. Wow, hey, dad,
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: do you want a job?
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: That's good?
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: But I thought he was retiring, didn't you say he
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: was retiring from he said he was stepping away.
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: That was Mike Shilt retiring and then and then not
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: retiring right and then not retiring addingly, didn't retire waiting.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: Did I miss something with Shill?
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he got a different job, not a manager job,
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: but he's doing something. He's in the front office consulting.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Shoot, Orioles missed that. I missed that.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: We got to get him on at some point.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: You got a special assistant to.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Blow down on the next job, special.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Assistant to snaking Abernez's job. Watch out, watch out, prig
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Lo stop, don't even don't even say that. Craig's like,
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: I just got here.
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: Listen, There's no way a guy like Shill can't not
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: be in baseball like this guy is when you talk
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: to him.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: He just exudes.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Baseball coaching and like front office like. For him to
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: not have a job, he must like I was like,
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: there's no way he doesn't get a job somewhere, and
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: sure enough he lands lands with the Orioles. He's going
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: coast to coast. He went Midwest for years, then he
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: went to the West coast. Now he's going to see
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: what the East coast. April is like.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: More interesting, Daniel Vogelback signs not as a player, but
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: as the hitting coach for the Milwaukee brew Who saw
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: that coming?
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Did he work?
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Can he do something? He worked for the Mets or
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: somebody last year? Didn't he as a as an assistant
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: hitting whenn't he the Mets guy? Because I remember seeing.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: What he was. I don't want the field.
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: I know that he was on the co hitting coach
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: of the Mets because I know he was on the
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: field right and I know Javaz was there.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Who was there? And then I thought he was like
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: his assistant or something.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: I don't know what he was, but he was definitely
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: in uniform. I mean immediately after he was done playing.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: So yeah, this is the next the next step. I mean,
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: dudes love he might coach first base sometime too.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I mean it's an ex All star dude. Dude could
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: Rake and he's he's just got that. I don't know
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the Brewers. The Brewers, they know who they're hiring. But man,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: being a hitting coach in the big leagues not very
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: secure of a job.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: Let's put it that way.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: True. By the way, with the Brewers, Matt, there's a.
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: Hitting coach and then there's there's as system. I saw that,
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: but Matts he was selling. He was he's on the field.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: But the thing about a hitting coach now is every
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: guy has their own hitting coach that they call, like
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: whether it's a guy from high school or college or
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: some guru they think knows everything. Like the hitting coach
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: now just has to coordinate all the hitting coaches. Twenty
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: what do they have thirteen hitters on your team. You
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: got to coordinate all the thirteen hitting private hitting coaches
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: into one thing to try to make the team work.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: Like it's crazy how everybody has their own guy. There
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: was a big article I saw now long ago on
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Schwarber's He has Kevin Long and his dog out every day.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: He's one of the best in the world, and he's
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: got his own guy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: They were taking.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: They did an article about how Kyle Schwarber calls this
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: guy that tells him was about his batsy.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: What about Kevin Long? He's pretty good.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Schwarber has been working with that guy since twenty seventeen.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I think, so that's his private guy, his team guy.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: The whitting coach job now is to meld what the
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: private guy says and what the hitting coach of your
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: team actually thinks their job is way harder than what
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: he's you know what they're saying about a hitting coaches
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: to v You know, when hitting coaches do their best
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: work at the hotel bar after the game. That was
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: when the hitting coach made his money because everyone's sitting
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: there and oh, I'm over twelve. Hitting coach like, let's
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: have another beer, and you're not that bad. No, nobody
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: goes to the hotel bar to have a beer, so
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: you can't even have that anymore.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: You got to just sit there in the cage all day.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: And I remember having conversation with Bret Boone about it, and
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: he's like, we're facing the guy that has a six CRA.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: We're in August. He's like, how about we go treat
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: this guy like he has a six cra in August
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: instead of worrying about his fastball ride and his vertical
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: break and his horizontal this and that.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: He's like, it's August. This guy has a six cr
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Let's go pound this guy.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Well, do you want to hear what the coaching staff
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: lay at is now? For the Brewers, Jason Lane was
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: the third base coach. Now he's been promoted to offense
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: and strategy coordinator who works with Eric Theesen, who is
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: now the lead hitting coach. And then there are the
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: co hitting coaches below him, Gama Martinez and Daniel Vogelback,
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: who's the third base coason someone else. I guess, wellme
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to Ricky Week. He's still there. He's the bench Couddy. Yeah,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Ricky is the bench coach, but they call him the association.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: No he did, No, I think he left.
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Oh he left? Man, I can't he did.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: I think I remember seeing something like that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, it's January, so I think it's time to start
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: telling people about this. Remember last year when we did
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: the BBWAA Awards Scalat it's back. It's back every year
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: for over one hundred years. But FT is back as well.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: Live on the FT YouTube channel, you can see Skeens, Scooble, Otani,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Judge and many more baseball VIPs speaking accepting their awards.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: There's great presenters, the whole deal, So make sure you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: check that out. Saturday, January twenty fourth. Just wanted to
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: let you know about it. You can also get tickets
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: if you want to go in person. But we'll be
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: there and we'll talk about it. Let's hit hot corner. Okay,
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: let's start with the Chicago White Sox and their moves
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that we covered already, but not with this guy. Yes,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: more comedy.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Signed h Mooney Muni, Mooney Muni.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Now you get to watch the greatest power slugger in
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: the twenty first century for the White Sox or for
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: obviously in NPB, but now coming over to the White
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Sox every day since you watch White Sox games every day,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I can't wait.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah about this Adam Done, No, that didn't work out
• 22:25
  Speaker 4: so well. I was there for that first year he
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: had a good career that he had the worst average.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: We can't I love Adam Done. I can't even talk
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: about bad about Adam. He's one of my all time
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: favorite teammates I ever had in my life. But I mean,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: the quote I'll never get is when he goes done.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: The reporter goes done, why'd you strike out with a gun?
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: First and one? Or third and first and third and one?
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: He goes I thought I might hit into a double play,
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: so I figured if I only make one out, it's better, right,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Like just things like that that he would say, or
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I'll never forget, And man, he had the worst.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: His first year there.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: He had the worst average of all time, right, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: he needed like five more plate appearances with like three
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: games ago, and they just didn't play him because they
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: didn't want him to have that official record.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: It was so bad, And the next year you actually
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: had a pretty good year. Dunner was one of the
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: best teammates. Well, so let's not even put him in
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the same category. But I tweeted about this, by the way,
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: Burcott when they signed him, because finally they did something
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: to make people notice them. This is what I've been
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: clamoring about. I did Chuck Garfine at the winter meetings,
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: I did his podcast, and I talked about this, and
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: I got bashed on online for saying that they needed
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: to go try and sign Kylee Skerber, go get some
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: guys and know how to hit homers and show these
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: other kids how to do it. I know they had
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: a nice second half and all this and that, but
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: if you're getting to be serious, then it's time to
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: get serious. And this was a nice first step. Now
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: they need to go out and do a lot of
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: other things, but this was a nice first step. You
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: cannot count on every one of your prospects to be
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: a star. I saw it happened. Listen, col To Montgomery
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: had a nice second ALP. He hit a lot of homers,
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: but he struck out a lot and he hit barely
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: two hundred. Right Chio their catcher, pretty good, kiro their
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: other catcher, pretty good.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: My draft had in the six is ops. No offense
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: to him, Luis Robert. They're paying twenty million.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, we've discussed this ad nause and
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: where we don't even need to talk about it anymore, right,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: but this is a nice first step.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Now go finish it off, Go sign some real starting pitchers,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: trade for some real starting pitchers, and continue this. But
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: the thing that got me was what Chris gets said
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: that Jerry Reinsdorf had to be talked into this.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I don't like.
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, we talked about this on the show all the time,
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: and I love Jerry Reinsworf. I've known him forever and
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: been to my house whatever. I had a lot of
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: time with Jerry REINSERP. You had to be told that
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: signing an international superstar from Japan would help your ticket
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: sales and your ad sales Like this again is the show?
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Hey Tani effect in baseball. If you go get the
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: Japanese guy, the Japanese people will follow, they'll watch, they'll
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: come to the game, they'll buy jerseys, they'll buy sign
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: it like, yes, if you buy get better players.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Guess what more people come to the games.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: They're gonna make this back. I mean, this is not
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the Otani contract. This isn't four hundred fifty two years
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: present value. This is two years thirty four mils. So
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: I think they were like, hey, we like this guy.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: We think we should sin him. And I don't even
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: think it'll cost you anything. We might actually prop it off.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: A signing like this, that's what's been happening lately with
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Japanese players. And he's like, hmm okay, And we could
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: show the tweet too that plays this out. Sam Falin, yeah,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: who covers them, said in three days since the Socks
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: signed Murakami, this was a couple of weeks ago, season
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: ticket sales skyrocketing, team getting national attention, social media pages
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: popping off, international fans getting familiar with the White Sox brand.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Spend money, make money. And I'll just add this, spend money,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: make money internationally right now, especially in Japan.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: And then you see the last line. Hopefully Jerry learns
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: a lesson from this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: But I can't figure out Jerry is very smart still,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: he's eighty eight, is eighty nine, He's still mentally very sharp.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: I saw him at the Winter meetings. He's very sharp.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: He's still there.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, but he should have known that he's owned this
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: team for forty years plus years now, like they took
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: this to figure out, like if you've got internationally especially right,
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: Like I don't know that that. That was to me
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: the biggest thing, Like I love the signing personally, I
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: really do love the signing. I think it's a great signing.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: And if he becomes anything, they're gonna make money hand
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: over fist for this signing. Okay, So I just that
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: was the surprise when get said brook Me and Brooks Boyer,
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: who's the basically the number two in command of the
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: White Sox behind Jerry for marketing and for everything else
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: that he needs done, had to go to him and say, hey, Jerry,
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: if we do this, we can get money from the
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: international meet you know, media, international sponsors. And he's like okay, wow,
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Like yeah, like that was the thing to me, like
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: let's go White Sox finally.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't. I don't know.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: I'm I'm glad they signed him. It's not the White
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Sox winning window. How does this affect the young guys?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: I just think it puts another guy out there that, hey,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: you know what, we're not afraid to sign some money.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: You know you want the.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: White Sox to I don't think they're at the point
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: where they would do the Jason Wirth type of contract
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: and go out and get somebody that's like, Okay, now
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: we're going to bring in free agents. So this isn't
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: that type of contract. But at seventeen a year, I'm
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: good with it, especially if he can hit some dingers,
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: like everybody loves dingers.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: It's two years, Cratzy, that's not a big commitment. It's
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: not a ten year, it's two years. It's literally two years.
• 27:40
  Speaker 4: Like this is fine. You try it out and see
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: if it works, and you know what, he might hit
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: forty homers for you the next two years, and guess what,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: then you can resign him again and then you might
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: hit forty more for you for the next five years.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: And by the way, justin I love you in the chat.
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: But Shawn Newcomb and Jared Kelnick signings. They don't move
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: the needle.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: I played with Shawn Newcomb. Jared Kelnick has not panned
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: out the way people.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: That's there.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You go.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: You want to talk about prospects that don't become superstars.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: Remember he was supposed to be the future Seattle, New York.
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: He got traded. They were like, oh my gosh.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: We traded kel Nick.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Remember Brody van Wagoning got destroyed for that. When he
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: was running the Mets front office. They were like, oh,
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: how could you trade their top prospect for Edwin Diaz?
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Worked out? All right?
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Done for the Mets.
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, I'm sorry, Like that's the perfect example. And listen,
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I mean listen, Anthony k I like the signing new guy, right,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Sewan Nucomb foign a half million not a bad signing.
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's not going to move the needle though
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: for anybody you know, he's lot though.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, trually he's going to get a chance and then
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: he'll go back to But yeah, but.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, those don't Those aren't the types of moves
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: that really push you to the next level. They're nice there,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: little pieces, but at some point, again, you got to
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: go for the big the big names. The teams that
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: win get the big names. People bars shine in October.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: People were excited to get your thoughts, and I think
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: your thoughts are very positive.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: I love this signing. I absolutely love, love, love love
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: lou signing.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And he signed for way less than people think, because well, there's.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Some people that aren't sold on him because he doesn't
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: have a high batting average against high velocity. You know
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: what he's in there for. Hey, listen, dude, go hit
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: me thirty five to forty homers, Like that's the game now.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I don't care if you strike out two hundred times,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: Go hit'eventy five to forty.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: How many did How many does it take for him
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: to win Rookie of the Year. We talked about it
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: one of the days you were gone, one of the
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: one hundred days you were gone. But like, if he
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: hits thirty five, is he slam dunk Rookie of the Year.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: If he hits two tens, I mean not if there's
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: a Nick Kertz out there that goes out and becomes
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: as one of the greatest rookie years of all time.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know who else. I mean, I
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: don't know who else. You never know there could be
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: somebody from an organization that just blows up. If he
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: hits forty homers, he's probably gonna be Rookie of the year.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: If he hits thirty five to forty homers, probably gonna
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: be Rookie of the year. It's hard to It's hard
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: to I find a rookie. I mean unless peet Alonso.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Remember pet Alonzo hit what fifty seven is rookie year?
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Whatever that crazy number was, was it? Whatever he hit
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: that year, he broke Judges record.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Remember he and Judge his rookie year too, right, Because's
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, unless you have someone that kind of does
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: that trout, yeah, trout.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Someone like that. I don't know. I just think that
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: I think thirty gets it done.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: My thing with the whole like can't hit fastballs and
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: all that stuff. I played in twenty nineteen with Cody
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: Ponce and I'm trying to think who else was there,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Joe Adell, Like for Team USA, we played against the
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Team Samurai, the Japanese All star team that goes to
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: all the WBC, went to the Olympics, all that stuff.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: We played against them in Japan. It was the exact
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: same thing like a lot of these guys couldn't hit fastballs,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: but you could see they were making adjustments. Seya Suzuki
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: was on that team. He's done pretty decent and made adjustments.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Akka Akamodo Okamoto was on that team. You know a
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: lot of these guys were on those teams that I
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: played against, And yes, they don't do well. But as
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: AJ would say, like a lot of good hitters, a
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: lot of big league hitters are okay with having a
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: deficiency if they never miss the ones that they're looking for.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying more comedy's that guy. I'm just saying
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: I think people are too. They're too like, oh, man,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: he can't hit over ninety three or ninety four miles
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: an hour, whatever that stat was. Well, they're not just
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: gonna keep pumping him with ten straight fastballs.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: And if they do, I have a feeling a.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: Big league hitter from another country is gonna make the adjustment.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And on a team like the White Sox, they're gonna
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: be playing from behind. Teams aren't just gonna be like, oh,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: I'm super scared of this guy. I'm gonna pitch around him.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna go after him, and that's why
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to get his thirty to thirty
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: five homers.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: All love it, ye know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: There's just not There's not a lot of downside here.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: The downside is, Okay, he's not a super productive long
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: term player and not worth locking in for whatever five
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: seven plus contract. And that's fine. Then you got two
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: years out of him. You got a lot of pop
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: on a team that's not making the playoffs right now. Anyway,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it's a rebuilding teams, a great science, butts and seeds.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Here's the upside high I'll say this. Listen, it's in credits.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Knows this.
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: How many guys have you seen over suit Spencer Jones,
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: Jason Deming goes. I go back to my time with
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: the White Sox. Gordon Beckham. Okay, it was like the
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: ninth overall pick and I love Gordon Beckham, right, great guy,
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: good friend of mine still to this day. He went
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: out his first year and had a great, unbelievable first
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: half of his career, right, and the White Sox over
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: hyped him in the offseason. He was doing a million
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: things and then he never had that same success again. Now,
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: whatever the cost for that was I don't know. Okay,
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: he had a nice career, but he never became the star. Right,
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: that's what you worry about when you see guys and
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: I hope and I hope and pray it doesn't happen
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: to Montgomery and Teal and Kiro and Mydrath and all
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: these guys. Right, But now they have been attendee, they
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: have more Kami, they have some at least a couple
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: guys around that, you know. I know Murakami hasn't played
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: in the big leagues, but at least he's played in
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: big games and he's hit home runs, and he could
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: show some of these younger guys how to do it.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: And that's what you need.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: You need guys around that can keep guys on their
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: toes and ready and teach them how to be major
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: league baseball players.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Right. You can't just have a team full of kids.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: That doesn't it doesn't work. Now. You need the blend.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Every good team has a blend. That's always what happens. Okay,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: let's get to a baby signing from the weekend. Paul
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: DeYoung still going strong, a minor league contract with the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yankees with the major league invite to camp if he
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: makes the team, he gets a million bucks. Last year
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: he signed for a one year deal for a million bucks,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: So this is insurance to have more options for Anthony Volpi.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Last year it was the deal with the Nationals for
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: a million bucks. This year it's with the Yankees. Remember,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: Volpi is going to start late to his season, and
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: to me, this is just another statement from the Yankees
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: that they believe Volpi is going to be their shortstop.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: So they're just yeah, they've got cabi Ero, They've got
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Deyong if he makes the team, I get can Rosario
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: play some short maybe he has? Yeah, So you've got
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: those guys to fill in for a month and change,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: and then Volpi comes back and they hand the keys
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: back to him. For fans that desperately want them to
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: go find a shortstop, it does not appear to be
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: in the cards. They do. They love him. Why are
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: you smirking?
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: Because Twitter, Well, AJ was in Africa Twitter Yankees. Twitter
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: was eviscerating me and comparing my baseball reference page to
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: a Rod's baseball reference page about my comments that you
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: know what, Velpi has been more productive than Dansby Swanson
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: at this point in his career, so maybe let it
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: play out. We'll see, we'll see. I mean it could
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: be worse to me. I like the signing you have Kaby.
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: I think Kabierra will play more than we'll play more than.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Paul de Young.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Paul de Young, he came off last year, He came
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: off of hitting a twenty twenty four home run season,
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: and he only got a million dollars from the Nats
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: to do what maybe be there in cases C J
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: Abrams kind of thing, like I really like this. He's
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: a professional player. You never heard anything bad about him.
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: Did you play with him?
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Aj or was he not there quite yet? He's probably
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: no Young? No, de Young was younger, but he played
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: third base with the Nats last year. So I forget
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: and did okay. But by the way I want to
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: I just want to mention this. I didn't see all
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: this on Twitter because I was just in a country,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Tanzania that doesn't allow Twitter, so you can't you can't
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: even go on x Twitter.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: It doesn't do anything. So as soon as you land
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: in Tanzania, it's nothing that's weird.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: It's none for Tanzania. You can't even it doesn't do anything.
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: My son was like, oh my good to Get my
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: Bears News.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: No Twitter trolls in Tanzania.
• 36:04
  Speaker 4: There are definitely no Twitter trolls. It's Twitter. And there's
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: another one that there's two of them that are banned,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: TikTok because no, it wasn't TikTok, because TikTok, Instagram, WhatsApp.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: There's like five of them that agreed to whatever the
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: terms were that Tanzania needed them to so they would
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: still allow them. But I guess because it said Twitter
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: uses allows nudity on their app x, so they said
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: that's why. And also because they said there was people
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: protesting against the leaders of Tanzania, I don't know whatever,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: and they wanted to make sure that they were censored.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: It was a long whole thing. But when I landed,
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh, let me check my Twitter and
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: see what's happening. And it didn't do anything, and I
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: was like, wait, what the hell's happening here? This is
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: really strange, crazy, And so people were wishing me happy
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: birthday on Twitter and I was like, oh, sorry, I
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: didn't see these until I got back to the country
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: that allowed Twitter.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Cancer don't get Twitter, nos do not. Yeah, that's what
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: he said.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: That's what he said.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Paralta is attractive not only to teams like the Yankees
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: and the Mets and the Braves and others who would
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: be classified as big market, but even small market teams
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: can afford him, and they're in the mix as well.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: Do I expect Paralta to get traded? I would say yes,
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: I do expect that to happen. I expect the Brewers
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: to get pushed to the point where they feel like
• 37:43
  Speaker 6: they're comfortable doing it, and if they get a major
• 37:45
  Speaker 6: League ready starting pitcher in return, they would have some
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: depth in that rotation. They actually already have depth. It's Woodriff,
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: it's Miserowski, and it's Priester to start that rotation, and
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: then they have a bunch of other candidates that they
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: feel good about. If they got one more, they feel
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: even better. Even without Freddy Peralta, who of course has
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: been immensely important to that team over the years and
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: coming off arguably his best year.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Freddy Peralta, will he or won't he go? The latest
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: from Ken sounds like he will be training going. That's big.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: He's a cheap guy who's making an eight eight million
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: this year for a guy that was unbelievably good last year.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: He's a one.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Why would the Brewers do this? I know they can
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: get some players.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: After this year. He's gosh, I know it just it
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: just hurts you.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: It hurts your heart.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: He's gone after this year.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: If you throw an extension offer for five years one hundred,
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: you think he would turn that down?
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I do.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not there.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't hurt to throw things out there,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: but if you're going to do that, you have to
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: do it sooner. That's I know they did sign and
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: I think Freddy would have done another one. But you
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: can't do it with a year to go. I mean
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: you can, but then at the number is close to
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: free agent number. If you did it two years ago,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the number could be attractive. Yeah, you're right, that's the
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: whole thing. I mean, I think you can carry guys.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So then where does he get traded? Yankees?
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: They're definitely trying, but I think almost anyone's trying.
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: For Freddy Pearl for Yeah, White Sox, Hello, White Sox.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be the White Sox for one season,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: but a team that's in this year. You got to
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: be in it this year. You think you're winning, you
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: think you're getting to the playoffs and doing damage this year.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Then you're trading for Freddy per Altocrats because the asking
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: price is going to be high. He also will get
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: a qualifying offer after this season if he's traded before
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the season, so that gets factored into the price. So
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: a team will have to give up someone, you know,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: a pick that's worthy of that, they make you pay
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: for that, and then you trade the prospects or whatever
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: you think the value is of the player on top
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: Rewind back. I didn't hear what you guys said because
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: my screen froze. But Cormyn Burns twenty twenty three, Like
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: that's exactly I mean twenty twenty four to the Orioles,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Like if you're, oh, what's it gonna cost?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Was it is? What's gonna cost?
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Except I they think Corbyn Burns made fourteen or sixteen
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: that year in arbitration. Freddie P is making half Freddy
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: P is gonna make hay and that means a lot
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: to teams. But hey, you know what I I hated
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: for my Milwaukee Brethren that they that they would lose
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Freddy P.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: Just I get it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: They have depth, they do, but man, you can't because
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: he's he's really he's really turned into he took another
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: step next this this past.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Year he did.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: True.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there are too many teams that need starters.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: This is too attractive. The Orioles could make an offer.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: I know they've already traded away a bunch of prospect
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: capital and it's easier for them to spend, but they've
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: also spent a lot. I mean, they could make a play.
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: They've matched up with the Brewers the past. Don't rule
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: it out. Is it like.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: Yankees, Brewers, Yankees, Orioles, Mets Nets.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: There's some teams out there that could make a move
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: for Freddy that would definitely Cubs would I mean the
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: would probably.
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the Cubs would. Yeah, they wouldn't trade him
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: in the Cubs. The Cubs would love to get Freddy P.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Doesn't cost much in the Cubs.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Or what about the break.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: What won't happen breaks? Wow?
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: Okay to me, I think this is the Yankees got
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: to be the Yankees.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Right Well, I don't know if it has to be,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: because it depends on how they match up. The Brewers
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: might say, hey, we don't love the prospects. You're throwing
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: our way.
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: True, but I mean they just they offloaded Collins already.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Are they do they need to restat restock in the outfield?
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: Do they need to.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: Like you guys?
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Here's a better question. Is this the year with the Brewers?
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Were they finally lost too much and they can't do
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: it again?
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Oh and then they don't make the playoffs?
• 42:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Is this the year?
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: Because for years we've been people have been saying this
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: is the year. Is just at some point it all
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: it comes.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: To this isn't the year. And I'll tell you why.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: They actually have a number of starters that will be
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: back that can It's not going to fill the place
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: of Freddie p but they do have many starting pitching
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: options there. They're farm systems in a better place the
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: last few years, and I think that's what's taken them
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: again to this next level of winning the division. And
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: here's the most important part. Cardinals are going to be
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: way worse. Reds have done nothing. Cubs have done nothing
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: but rebuild a bullpen that was good and now fill that.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But they haven't replaced Tucker or done much so where.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's competition, but it's not like you look
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: in your life. What's the team I'm missing. Pittsburgh got
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: a little better, but it's a little better. Yeah, just
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a little better for me. You think they got a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: lot better. I think they got a little think they
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: got a little better than a little. Okay, they got better,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: but I still think the Brewers are the team to
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: beat in the division right now. Okay that's me.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Tell let's you a baseball. Pakodo says, I don't care
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: about the wins. I mean wins they're going to adult.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: What is that?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: What does BEM have for their win total right now?
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but we can check. We can check.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: We're doing that segment in a second. One other thing
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that just came through is am I in his press
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: conference said he will not pitch for Team Japan in
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: the WBC. He wants to get acclimated but his teammates
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: without a disruption during spring training. And then Chandler Rome
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: also tweeted he wants to prioritize getting used to things
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: in his first year. Wait, I'm going to add to that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I want to prioritize my free agent year. He's trying
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: to show that he's a one to fifty mil pitcher
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and not a sixty three or whatever. The number is
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: right to all of these major league teams that just
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: said me, we don't really believe in you stuff wise,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: if he can throw strikes, I think he could be
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: a top end starter, right, And most teams just now said, eh,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: you're more of a four right with maybe three upside.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: He's trying to prove he's a a two. And then
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: if you go back into the market as a two
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: with that kind of stuff and upside, then you're now
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: one hundred mili plus player. So for him, it's spring training.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Major leagues. Screw the wb SI so much.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Is Team Japan gonna get hurt? I mean, I know
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: Isoto playing for Team Japan.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yamamoto is pitching, show Hey, I don't know if he's pitching,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: but he's playing. But he's playing.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: Then, But then is like Murkami probably won't play for teams.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: And position players are an easier sell I think, is
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: it though?
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Because these guys are coming over to the new team.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: A lot of times guys don't want to do it
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: in their first year because they're getting acclimated to a
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: new team and everything.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: This is a big part of a question.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: I know, that's what I'm saying. These are big names
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: for Team Japan. That's why I'm wondering if these guys
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: all say, hey, we're not doing.
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: It, they get a lot of pressure.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: See the thing about Team Japan that they we also
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: do is they go like a month early if you remember,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: and they start practicing like now.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: But this is where you have leverage to say, listen,
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I just signed with the new team. I'll play, but
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play under my terms. I'm not doing the
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: whole song and dance and everything else.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: It's interesting they have more leverage the guys. They also
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: just won last time around, So I think Team Japan's like,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: we'll take the talent and if you need to work
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: around your schedule a little bit, we'll do it. Okay,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: but we'll see. But no, inn It's interesting.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: It's just an interesting thought on because Team Japan had
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: all these guys and now a lot of them have
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: come to the States and now what happens to their
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: teams is still as good as it was. And I
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: still want listen, I still want show hey, facing whoever
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: the best player is on Team USA in the finals
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: with the game on the line, like you did with
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: Mike Trout last time. Unbelievable judge, judge bottom of the Trout,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: not judge, No, no, this time, this time, I'm talking
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: this time.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: Right, show Heber's judge would be awesome, Yes.
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: Right, bottom of the night, tie game, one run lead,
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: whatever it is, something like that. That's cool.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if we'll show. Hey, we mate,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: We'll see. Yeah,